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What is the moratorium on bringing up something that is wrong? How long do you have to ask someone? · Anele and the Club on 947

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  Speaker 1: Wake up with a bang.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, wake up!
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  Speaker 1: Anele and the club on 947. Right now, on Monday,
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  Speaker 1: a colleague of ours came up to me and Frankie
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  Speaker 1: with a problem.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We then found a problem with his problem. And now,
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  Speaker 1: we would like for you to assess whether this problem
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  Speaker 1: that Frankie and I have found, if it's indeed a
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  Speaker 1: problematic problem.
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  Speaker 3: Now what we're going to do is, we've decided now
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  Speaker 3: we're not going to use names.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: Because it's a sensitive thing at the office.
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  Speaker 1: So colleague came to us and said that he lost
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  Speaker 1: his H & M jacket at work. And then in
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  Speaker 1: three days, another colleague was wearing the same jacket.
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  Speaker 4: From H & M?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Same jacket. The thousand by the thousands.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So then he said to us, And I'm just, what
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  Speaker 1: do you guys think I should do? Do you think
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  Speaker 1: I should approach them? Do you think I should approach HR?
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  Speaker 1: So I said, yeah. I said, one of these will work, okay?
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  Speaker 1: And it will put your little heart to rest. And
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  Speaker 1: then I was like, when was this? And then he
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  Speaker 1: said it was two months ago. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that jacket is gone.
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  Speaker 2: So to be clear, is the suspicion that the said
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  Speaker 2: jacket that was left in the building is the same
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  Speaker 2: one worn by the other colleague?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, dear.
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  Speaker 3: Same size, obviously exactly same jacket, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, no.
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  Speaker 6: So, firstly, I don't think that somebody would take your
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  Speaker 6: jacket at work and then wear it to work.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Are you sure?
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  Speaker 6: But also, I think that maybe you should say something
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  Speaker 6: within the... The first time you see the person wearing it, saying, hey...
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  Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I had a jacket exactly like that
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  Speaker 6: and I left it for work.
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  Speaker 1: Three days ago.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I would say something on the first time.
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  Speaker 6: I would literally say, is that by any chance my jacket?
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  Speaker 1: So you see, this is where I said to him, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: your jacket is gone. There's no way you want to
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  Speaker 1: come two months later and make a ruckus out of
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  Speaker 1: your jacket. You do it immediately or you leave it.
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  Speaker 1: So this is the discussion. How long are you allowed
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  Speaker 1: to let things slide before you raise it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe there's a moratorium on this as well.
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  Speaker 3: I think... I want to say five business days. And
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  Speaker 3: this counts for anything that goes missing. Like if you
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  Speaker 3: don't report it within five business days or you don't...
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  Speaker 3: It's gone. It's a whole school week. It's one school week.
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  Speaker 1: Let it go.
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  Speaker 3: If your child lost their jersey on Monday and then
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  Speaker 3: two weeks later you realize the jersey's gone, I think
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  Speaker 3: it's gone.
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  Speaker 1: It's gone.
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  Speaker 4: A week is enough.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with Frankie because if you really cared about
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  Speaker 2: the lost item, you would have gone all out to
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  Speaker 2: find it within a week. If I had forgotten the jacket,
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  Speaker 2: for example, in studio... headphones, which happens a lot in
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  Speaker 2: a radio studio, right? The very next day, you go
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  Speaker 2: all out to find your missing item.
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  Speaker 1: But what if somebody's of the belief that something doesn't
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  Speaker 1: stop being mine just because months have passed? It's still mine,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm still allowed to look for it.
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  Speaker 6: I would say, I would say two weeks. Just purely
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  Speaker 6: like as a parent, you know that sometimes your child
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  Speaker 6: brings home somebody else's piece of uniform, let's say, for example.
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  Speaker 6: And then it's gone through the wash and life gets busy.
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  Speaker 6: And then after a while, you're like, hang on, this
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  Speaker 6: is not ours. Like you look in the cupboard, especially
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  Speaker 6: when they get older. You're not on top of everything
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  Speaker 6: that's theirs because you hope that as they're older, they're responsible.
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  Speaker 1: They're on top of it. So I would say two weeks.
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  Speaker 6: And then definitely as adults in the workplace, because we've
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  Speaker 6: got a very good system here, he should have reported
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  Speaker 6: it's missing.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Straight away.
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  Speaker 6: And then as soon as he saw that colleague wearing it,
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  Speaker 6: he should have said, hey, that looks remarkably similar.
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  Speaker 1: 011-8838-947. You lose something. Three days later, you see your
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  Speaker 1: colleague wearing the same thing, same size, same everything, same color,
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  Speaker 1: same everything. When are you allowed to raise it? To
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  Speaker 1: the colleague, to HR, to building execs. What are you
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  Speaker 1: laughing at, Ibele?
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  Speaker 4: Just out of interest. Lovely Nicola from HR.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just curious about how she would have had to
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  Speaker 2: resolve a dispute over a jacket from H & M.
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  Speaker 2: No offense to H & M, but they sell many
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  Speaker 2: of the same items.
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  Speaker 1: I think you would have to prove that you bought it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I must bring a slip now to HR.
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  Speaker 3: Something.
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  Speaker 1: Something that proves that you bought it.
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  Speaker 3: But this is the exact point that that other colleague
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  Speaker 3: is relying on. The fact that you're thinking, no, but
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  Speaker 3: she obviously bought it at H & M.
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  Speaker 4: Because it's so unique, of course.
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  Speaker 1: But, Kalugu.
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  Speaker 1: Also because it's like a recent purchase, right? So there's
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  Speaker 1: something you can show to us that you bought it
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  Speaker 1: at H & M. You can show us a slip.
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  Speaker 1: You can show us a debit from your credit card,
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  Speaker 1: from your debit card. Something, bro.
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  Speaker 3: But how insulted would you be If you were the
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  Speaker 3: person wearing the jacket and HR comes to you and says,
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  Speaker 3: show me a slip of how you bought this thing.
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  Speaker 3: Show me a slip. You'd be so … I don't
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  Speaker 3: keep slips.
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  Speaker 1: So, like, no.
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  Speaker 8: Guilty.
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  Speaker 1: But you can show us on your card.
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  Speaker 6: But, I mean, if you shop there regularly.
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  Speaker 1: But, I mean, no, guys.
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  Speaker 6: Now that Frankie's put, like, jacket on the other back,
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  Speaker 6: I'm actually like, hold on a second. I would be like, no,
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  Speaker 6: this is mine.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd be taking HR to HR if they came
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  Speaker 3: to you and said, show me a slip of what
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  Speaker 3: you're wearing.
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  Speaker 1: Huh? Okay, thanks, Frankie. Now there's another conversation. I'm just saying.
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  Speaker 1: How has HR done it in your building when somebody
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  Speaker 1: accused somebody of taking their jacket? 011-8838-947. Send us a voice,
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  Speaker 1: not 084-00-00947. Our colleague lost his jacket in the building.
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  Speaker 1: Three days later, he saw somebody else wearing it in
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  Speaker 1: the building as well. Two months later, he wants to
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  Speaker 1: raise it. We say two months is too long.
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  Speaker 3: Too long.
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  Speaker 1: We say way too long. That jacket is gone, my angel.
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  Speaker 1: And he's like, no, I think I've still got a chance.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, no, you don't. So we're asking you how
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  Speaker 1: long should time, how much time should pass before something
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  Speaker 1: that you lost is gone? Leave it now. You can't
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  Speaker 1: raise it. You can't go to HR. You can't go anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: And can you do that where you feel that that's
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  Speaker 1: my jacket?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Do you just grab that person in the hallway? Do
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  Speaker 3: you just shake them? That's my jacket.
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  Speaker 1: That's allowed. I wouldn't have involved HR at all. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, Gwena, you can keep this jacket.
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  Speaker 7: I know.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 5: I know.
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  Speaker 1: And I just want you to know I know.
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  Speaker 8: No, I don't agree with you guys.
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  Speaker 6: If I've been looking for it for two weeks and
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  Speaker 6: then after two weeks you suddenly wear it.
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  Speaker 9: Then I can still claim it.
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  Speaker 2: It's mine.
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  Speaker 4: I paid for it.
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  Speaker 9: So my school jersey went missing. It had a specific
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  Speaker 9: burn mark. right in the middle of the jersey. And
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  Speaker 9: my friend, very good friend of mine.
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  Speaker 1: Actually had my jersey on a few days later, like nothing.
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  Speaker 4: Hi, my name is Sienna, and I would just label
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  Speaker 4: mine if I were you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Finders, keepers, losers, weepers.
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  Speaker 6: Imagine, now you must unpick the Versace off the back
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  Speaker 6: of your jacket to write Cindy.
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  Speaker 1: But that's the thing. Maybe this whole thing of labelling
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  Speaker 1: clothes shouldn't end at just school kids. All the way
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  Speaker 1: into adulthood, guys. No. I'm not labelling my clothes as
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  Speaker 1: an adult, guys.
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  Speaker 8: No.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 1: No, look now. Hey, your H & M jacket is gone.
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  Speaker 1: If you had labeled it, we could simply walk up
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  Speaker 1: to you and be like, hi, I lost a jacket
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  Speaker 1: just like that. It's got a label on it. Please
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  Speaker 1: can I check?
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  Speaker 6: No, if you had been responsible as a child and
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  Speaker 6: looked after your stuff, you would grow up into a
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  Speaker 6: responsible adult and you wouldn't lose your jacket. Plus, you
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  Speaker 6: must learn to confront people immediately when you see them
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  Speaker 6: wearing your stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And can I just clarify? Because I've already gotten... text
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  Speaker 3: from HR so they'd like to see us later I
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  Speaker 3: told you they'd like to see us later this morning
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  Speaker 3: but the person who was wearing the jacket I don't
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  Speaker 3: think that they necessarily stole it because they found it
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  Speaker 3: and then no one claimed.
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  Speaker 1: It they didn't hand it in.
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  Speaker 3: Covering us for Taylor Hinnock.
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like if it happens in our workspace,
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  Speaker 1: it's happening in your workspace as well. Lee, you in Alberton.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, sir.
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  Speaker 5: Good morning, team.
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  Speaker 8: How are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: We are great, Lee. Lee, we need some adult supervision
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  Speaker 1: here and you sound like you are the adult.
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  Speaker 8: Look, I'm not actually. In my house, my wife, example,
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  Speaker 8: my wife's taken all our charger plugs and put our
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  Speaker 8: initials on there. So we know who's is who, right?
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 8: Mark your stop. So I'm saying if more than two
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  Speaker 8: people have got the same jacket in your workplace, put
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  Speaker 8: your little initial on the inside of your jacket. And
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  Speaker 8: obviously it's going to take you a couple of days
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  Speaker 8: to look for your jacket. You're going to look at home,
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  Speaker 8: in the car, wherever it may be. And if you
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  Speaker 8: see your jacket at work, say, guys, let me just
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  Speaker 8: try your jacket on. I just want to see something.
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  Speaker 8: And purposely look for your text. It's like our school kids.
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  Speaker 8: We send them to school and we mark their clothes, right?
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  Speaker 8: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: What's the difference?
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  Speaker 8: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you guys want to be adults that don't
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  Speaker 1: mark your clothes? How does it take away from you
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  Speaker 1: being an adult?
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  Speaker 2: Because I'm an adult who's never lost a piece of
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  Speaker 2: clothing because I'm grown up. That's why I don't understand
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  Speaker 2: why you're taking your clothes off at work.
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  Speaker 4: Keep everything on you.
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  Speaker 1: It gets hot and I need to take my jacket off.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we know it gets warm in summer and spring.
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  Speaker 4: Dress appropriately.
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  Speaker 3: I think the issue here is that we don't feel
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  Speaker 3: as adults we want to be marking our clothes with
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  Speaker 3: our names inside. But I think the adult version of
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  Speaker 3: it is bedazzling. Like if we all get into bedazzling
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  Speaker 3: and you bedazzle your clothes, it'll be easy to identify.
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  Speaker 1: Lily, you're in the vault. Good morning. What do you
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  Speaker 1: think about this debacle?
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  Speaker 7: Good morning, Tim.
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  Speaker 9: It's Lily here.
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  Speaker 7: I just wanted to answer under the word workplace. If
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  Speaker 7: you are in the workplace, we are regulated by the
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  Speaker 7: national law under the Occupational Health and Safety Act, which
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  Speaker 7: is the Section 8. Section 8, it says reporting of incidents.
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  Speaker 7: at work. You need to report immediately or before the
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  Speaker 7: end of the shift.
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  Speaker 5: That's the law.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to argue with anyone who brought up
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  Speaker 1: Section 8. So if I don't report it today, tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: that jacket is gone, eh?
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  Speaker 5: That jacket is gone.
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  Speaker 6: No, but now, okay, what happens? Okay, I finish my
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  Speaker 6: shift and I get home and I realize, oh no,
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  Speaker 6: I've left my jacket behind.
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  Speaker 1: So now it's too late.
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  Speaker 6: Like I only realized when I got home that it's missing.
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  Speaker 7: The constitution is running away from issues like that when
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  Speaker 7: you are being injured at work and then you get
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  Speaker 7: home and you said you were injured at work yesterday
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  Speaker 7: because there was no one to report to. then you
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  Speaker 7: might be able to be reported to be injured at home.
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  Speaker 4: And then you come and report it at work.
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  Speaker 7: So the constitution, they've ruled out that matter, that people,
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  Speaker 7: they go home and then come back and claim.
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  Speaker 2: So the point in the case of the jacket, for example,
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  Speaker 2: or an item lost at work could be that once
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  Speaker 2: you've left the building, you may have lost it elsewhere,
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  Speaker 2: but you're making it the company's problem.
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  Speaker 4: Is that right?
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  Speaker 7: Yes, you are making it a company's problem. You can
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  Speaker 7: report it to caution them or alert them of such
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  Speaker 7: things that is happening within the workplace.
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  Speaker 5: However, it's not a reportable incident.
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  Speaker 1: Or you can report it for insurance purposes in the
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  Speaker 1: case that your jacket is insured.
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  Speaker 4: If you are insured.
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine going to the third floor to tell
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  Speaker 2: them there's a jacket-snatching syndicate?
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  Speaker 4: Beware!
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  Speaker 7: Ah!
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  Speaker 1: Guys, Lily came through with the fact that we were
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  Speaker 1: chafufling here, speaking nonsense. And she was like, yay.
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  Speaker 3: Section 8.
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  Speaker 1: That H & M jacket in the Constitution falls under
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  Speaker 1: Section 8 of the Occupational Health and Safety Act. And
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  Speaker 1: it says that you must report things before your shift ends.
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  Speaker 1: So there we go, guys. So our initial question around
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  Speaker 1: the two months, that's gone.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's gone.
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  Speaker 4: Keep this up, you might have to open a law firm.
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  Speaker 4: Look how accurate you are.
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  Speaker 1: Constable, at 6 o'clock I'm solving crimes. At 7 o'clock
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  Speaker 1: I'm putting people in their place. I wonder what's going
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  Speaker 1: to happen at 8.
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  Speaker 9: So, for interest's sake, how much is the jacket? I'm
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  Speaker 9: happy to start a GoFund and put in 55 rent
• 12:21
  Speaker 9: towards an AJM jacket.
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  Speaker 7: I used to be in the rugby team and you
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  Speaker 7: would often see a rugby mate wearing a sock with
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  Speaker 7: your initials on it.
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  Speaker 4: It did happen in the rugby team.
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  Speaker 8: Maybe the person took the jacket by accident and maybe
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  Speaker 8: the domestic lady put it on a.
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  Speaker 4: Jacket in the cupboard over another jacket. So they actually
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  Speaker 4: don't know that.
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  Speaker 1: If I know exactly where it was, can't I ask
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  Speaker 1: the company to look at the cameras? As to who
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  Speaker 1: took my jacket? Yes, you can, but not two months
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  Speaker 1: down the line.
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  Speaker 3: But also if you know where you left it, because
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  Speaker 3: that's the problem. He says he left that at the
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: office somewhere he doesn't know.
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  Speaker 1: And the rugby team guy, do you then, when you
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: see somebody wearing your socks, do you go to them
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  Speaker 1: immediately and be like, hey, yo, chap, those are my socks?
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  Speaker 3: If someone else is wearing your socks, it's theirs. Like that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very willing to say it's yours. It's yours, buddy.
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  Speaker 1: It's yours, buddy.
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  Speaker 3: Rugby socks.
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  Speaker 1: You enjoy those. Jolene, you and Benoni, good morning.
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  Speaker 9: Good morning, Adelaide McLeod.
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  Speaker 1: Morning, Jolene.
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  Speaker 8: How are you?
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  Speaker 5: Good, good.
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  Speaker 9: First time on radio. Can I get a pom-pom?
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  Speaker 8: Yes, girl.
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  Speaker 1: Pom-pom. First time on the radio. We're making the circle bigger.
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  Speaker 9: Call me back. Meet me, call you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so tell us what happened to you.
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  Speaker 9: So I lost my specs at school, tested specs. So
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  Speaker 9: it was a few months, a few months. And I
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  Speaker 9: just like assume, okay, it's gone.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not bothered.
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  Speaker 9: It's gone. I actually got a phone, spec savers, booked
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  Speaker 9: an appointment, got a new set of specs. I walk
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  Speaker 9: into reception the one day, my receptionist slash tea lady
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  Speaker 9: was wearing a set of specs. And I look at
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  Speaker 9: her and I'm like, hey, this looks like mine. So
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  Speaker 9: I approached her and she's like, no, this is mine.
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  Speaker 9: So then I got pissed off. So I phoned Specsavers and,
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  Speaker 9: you know, all Specsavers has a specific code. So they
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  Speaker 9: gave me the code. And when I went back, I'm like,
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  Speaker 9: can I please see your glasses? And then when I look,
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  Speaker 9: I'm like, hey, this is my glasses.
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  Speaker 3: Because it's got the code that Specsavers gave you.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 9: There's a code specifically engraved on the glasses.
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  Speaker 1: And then what did she say? This is so embarrassing.
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  Speaker 9: And this was a good few months later. We actually
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  Speaker 9: got a new set and everything.
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  Speaker 1: So now you've got two sets of glasses. We've gathered that.
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  Speaker 1: But please take us back to the lady. What did
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  Speaker 1: she say?
• 14:55
  Speaker 9: She said, oh, is it? How do you know it's yours?
• 14:58
  Speaker 9: I'm like, there's the code. That tells you it's mine.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: And then?
• 15:02
  Speaker 9: And then she gave it back to me. She apologized.
• 15:07
  Speaker 9: And I'm like, you know what? It's fine. Keep it.
• 15:10
  Speaker 9: Because I already got a new set. You shouldn't take
• 15:13
  Speaker 9: something that doesn't belong to you. Or at least give
• 15:15
  Speaker 9: it to management or give it to somebody to tell
• 15:18
  Speaker 9: them you found something.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: But my cry is she doesn't have the same eye
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: problems you do. Do you know what I'm saying? So
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: why are you wearing glasses that are not yours? You're
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: actually causing damage to your eyes. Unless your glasses.
• 15:29
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and it was tested.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, this is my cry. It's a proper... The lenses
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: were made for you and no two are the same.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Unless your frame was really nice.
• 15:39
  Speaker 9: It was a burgundy one with like flowers on it,
• 15:43
  Speaker 9: sort of.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I get that.
• 15:45
  Speaker 9: It wasn't even like a specific brand.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: Jolene, but did she see the error in her ways?
• 15:53
  Speaker 9: She apologized. She gave it back, but that was it.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, because after a few months and you've been wearing something.
• 16:00
  Speaker 9: I don't think it sounds bad about it.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: I don't want it back. It's got your energy now.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? It's yours. Just keep it.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: But I think it's very... It's the height of audacity
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: to pick up prescription glasses and just put them on
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: and carry on moving.
• 16:13
  Speaker 9: Especially you being a tea lady slash a cleaner receptionist.
• 16:17
  Speaker 9: You see walking around, people leave things. Your responsibility is
• 16:22
  Speaker 9: to report it.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Literally, your job is pick up. Your job is pick
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: up and take it to lost property because you work
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: in a space where people are going to drop things.
• 16:28
  Speaker 8: No.
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: Exactly.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, Jolene. You guys must have a very strained relationship
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: now though, hey?
• 16:35
  Speaker 9: I'm not at the company anymore.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: So you don't see her anymore?
• 16:39
  Speaker 8: No, I don't.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Okay. Thank you, Jolene.
• 16:42
  Speaker 7: Thank you.
• 16:43
  Speaker 9: Take care, guys.
• 16:44
  Speaker 8: Bye.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Guys, there's nothing more embarrassing when somebody proves that.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. When I can prove that you took it.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Just saying it. Fumelo, you in front of Bell Park.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Good morning.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Good morning, guys.
• 16:57
  Speaker 8: How are you?
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: We are great. Fumelo, are you going to bring this
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: conversation to an abrupt end? To be like, hey, this
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: is the word.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, let's just close it off. It's my jacket. It's
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: my jacket. If it's two months later, two years later,
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: the thing about my clothing is that I'm a creative
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: director for a fashion brand. So for me, all my
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: items are uniquely made for Kumelo in a way. I
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: can buy a jacket at H & M, tailor it
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: or alter it a little bit, and make it myself.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: So at the end of the day, it's not marked,
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: but I'm able to identify my pieces that are in
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: my closet, Anywhere, anytime, and even those clients that I
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: have dressed and have had certain things bought from the company,
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: everything is uniquely made and the company's authentic great clothing.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: So at the end of the day, it's authentically made
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: for you.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: So you bedazzle. It sounds like you're into the bedazzling.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: Not necessarily bedazzled, but a piece will be made for you.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Personalized.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: You understand? So if you want to have your initials, Frankie,
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: put onto it, we can do that. But if you
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: want to add something that maybe a flower or something
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: that's very close to you on the inside or somewhere
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: within it, just for you so that you know that
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: this is authentically yours.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: After two years of somebody wearing your jacket, do you
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: want it back?
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: Anile, it is personalized. So at the end of the day,
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: the money is not the one that you got from
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: H & M. It is a little bit more because
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: there's more detail put onto it.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: But do you want it back?
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: But do you want it back? Forget it being personalized
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: and the detail and the flower and the bloom. Do you,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: after somebody has worn something of yours for two years,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: do you want it back?
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: They must refund it to me.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Also, they must pay you the money.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Yes, they must pay me the money. Like the lady
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: said before, you stole it, basically. It's actually a criminal case.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: And you can go to the police and open a
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: case of theft and go and prove it with a code,
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: like she said. But we don't want to get to
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: that route. So kindly just pay me back my 2000
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: rand for my jacket.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what it is? I think Trumelo's
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: got a point. Because Tina, and I'm going to say
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: it as South Africans, we're just so used to things
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: like this, right? That you just, the trouble of going
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: to the police station and, you know, a case.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to bother the police with a jacket
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: from H & M.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: This is my cry. But if you're looking at it
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: and what's right and what's wrong, Trumelo's right.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean, it's still your jacket. But to
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: the point, this colleague did lose it. Didn't look after.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I'm just sticking to my two-month thing. There's no way
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: you can come after two months and be like, now... here,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: you know, let's go find your jacket.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: So now, after, we've had a long discussion about this.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: So what do we tell Tobita?