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Not So Fast Episode 21 · Not So Fast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Patz,
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  Speaker 1: where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest
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  Speaker 1: sports stories.
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  Speaker 2: Of the day. Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Patz.
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  Speaker 1: Not so fast, my friends.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Paps.
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  Speaker 2: We're in the DP Show Man Cave in the baseball
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  Speaker 2: corner because it is wild card time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great day today. We've got a lot
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  Speaker 3: coming up on the show. Hit all the games, yesterday's games,
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  Speaker 3: today's games on NBC and Peacock. Bonus coverage, Florida Gators
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  Speaker 3: running back Jaden Ball. What a month he's had for
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  Speaker 3: the Gators at 4-0. He'll join us in 20 minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Awesome. All right, what do we got on tap today?
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  Speaker 2: The MLB postseason continues on NBC and Peacock. First up,
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  Speaker 2: Phillies and the Braves, followed by the White Sox and Astros.
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  Speaker 2: I know you're tuned into that. Then, of course, in primetime,
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  Speaker 2: Game 2, Red Sox at the Yankees. Then, to tap
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  Speaker 2: it off, Cubs face the Padres. MLB Wild Card presented
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  Speaker 2: by Abbey begins this afternoon. NBC and Peacock. Paul, yesterday
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  Speaker 2: was awesome.
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  Speaker 3: It was a fun day here. All the bros got
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  Speaker 3: over there on the couches, and we were watching the
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  Speaker 3: games right off the jump. And what really stands out
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  Speaker 3: about the Wild Card now, since they changed it about
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  Speaker 3: five years ago, three games on the road. Best of three.
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  Speaker 3: The urgency right off the bat. We were watching Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 3: Philadelphia got to Chris Sale early. And when they did that,
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  Speaker 3: and we're going to talk about the Yankees in a second,
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  Speaker 3: but when they got to that game and they get
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  Speaker 3: a couple runs early, it's like, we're there. And vice versa.
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  Speaker 3: If your team's losing even in the first couple of
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  Speaker 3: innings of the first game, it doesn't look good.
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  Speaker 2: It was a little embarrassing for me. I'm a Phillies fan.
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  Speaker 2: And the whole crew, the whole Dan Patrick show crew,
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  Speaker 2: the Not So Fast crew, was sitting around on the
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  Speaker 2: couch watching the game. And I was pacing. You know
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  Speaker 2: how you get during a game.
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  Speaker 3: Baseball pacing. You're like Leo Mazzoni going like this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone's like relaxed. It's only game one. But that's
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  Speaker 2: not the way the wild card works. They kept flashing
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  Speaker 2: the stat that winners of game one have won 15
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  Speaker 2: of 16 wild card series since they changed the format.
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  Speaker 2: I find the wild card round brutal. One of the
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  Speaker 2: most brutal things in sports. Because you work so hard
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  Speaker 2: to get there, then it's over like that.
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  Speaker 3: It's fair but brutal. It's like the NCAA tournaments. You're
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  Speaker 3: one and done. This is three and done. So at
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  Speaker 3: least you have a chance to kind of work with
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  Speaker 3: your pitching staff. Let's get right to the first game.
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  Speaker 3: Yankees over the Red Sox 9-0. Now, when you see 9-0,
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  Speaker 3: if you didn't watch that game, the first few innings
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  Speaker 3: felt like a great game. Peyton Tolley was playing well,
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  Speaker 3: and then he got away from them. And Ben Rice
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  Speaker 3: took over. Cam Schlittler took over. And those two guys,
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  Speaker 3: when you have two hammers, it's like having a great
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  Speaker 3: goaltender in hockey, but you also have a great scorer.
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  Speaker 3: They were able to shut down the Red Sox, and
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  Speaker 3: the Red Sox don't have an answer, not a bat
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  Speaker 3: that can keep up with, like, Ben Rice.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah. I mean, listen, you say they have two hammers.
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  Speaker 2: You would think one of those hammers would be Aaron Judge.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think anyone saw Ben Rice having a record-breaking
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  Speaker 2: game one, let alone the rest of the Yankees lineup,
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  Speaker 2: which hasn't done anything in a long time. All of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, they all showed up.
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  Speaker 3: But if you go back to the Red Sox, they
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  Speaker 3: have a very good pitcher, a very good pitching staff.
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  Speaker 3: They were 12-12 down the stretch. They feel like a
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  Speaker 3: team that kind of eased into the playoffs. Roman Anthony's
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  Speaker 3: a good player. He's not available. He's hurt. The days
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  Speaker 3: of Mookie Betts are over. The days of David Ortiz
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  Speaker 3: are over. They don't have that guy in the lineup
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  Speaker 3: that you fear, and that really limits them. And Ben Rice,
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  Speaker 3: like you said, he's not a superstar, but he is
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  Speaker 3: a guy who could have a game like that, and
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  Speaker 3: he did.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, the Red Sox, the narrative was going to hammer
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  Speaker 2: them with left-handed pitching, all the left-handed batters, and the
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  Speaker 2: left-handed batters just got to them. It's not what you expect,
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  Speaker 2: but again, that's my problem with the wild card. It feels,
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  Speaker 2: and this is me, it feels done in a way.
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  Speaker 2: You watch that game, you watch how dominant Slater was
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  Speaker 2: against the The Red Sox, can the Red Sox come
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  Speaker 2: back from that? I find that it's a very tough assignment.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I find that fans, especially of a team on
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  Speaker 3: the downside, like if you're a Red Sox fan, we've
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  Speaker 3: got a couple of Red Sox fans in the building,
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  Speaker 3: and they are demoralized.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And it's the runs that do it. If you lost
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  Speaker 3: that game 2-1, it's the same result. But if you
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  Speaker 3: lose 9-0, you feel inept. And it kind of puts
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  Speaker 3: like a big eraser on the entire season. Like, let's
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  Speaker 3: go to the Cubs. Let's go to the Padres over
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  Speaker 3: the Cubs, 8-0. I watched that game, and the Padres
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  Speaker 3: fans were in it right off the jump. Tatis gets
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  Speaker 3: the home run in the bottom of the first. Machado
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  Speaker 3: gets a home run in the bottom of the first.
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  Speaker 3: It felt like that game was over before it started
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  Speaker 3: because the Cubs were getting eaten alive on Michael King,
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  Speaker 3: the Padres starter. And they they felt like they had said, well,
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  Speaker 3: this is not going to work out for us today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. If you're somebody who believes stars win in the postseason,
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  Speaker 2: the Padres are your team. I mean, that that team
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  Speaker 2: has legit star power. And these guys, all of them
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  Speaker 2: have been in the playoffs for a while. I feel
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  Speaker 2: like I've been watching Tatis and Machado in the playoffs
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  Speaker 2: for a long time.
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  Speaker 3: And if you watch that play, I know one play
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  Speaker 3: doesn't make a ball game, but going back to that
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  Speaker 3: Tatis home run, PCA almost got it. He almost robbed that.
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  Speaker 3: Can you imagine if that inning ends 0-0 off a
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  Speaker 3: Pete Crow Armstrong robbery of a home run? It wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: Machado goes yard there. The fans were already into it,
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  Speaker 3: and it was galactic after that.
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  Speaker 2: No, you could tell that was out of the four games.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there were some attendance problems at two of
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  Speaker 2: the games. Yep. That was the game that was most bananas.
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  Speaker 2: Yankee Stadium was also a little bit nuts.
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  Speaker 3: And if you look at Tatis and Machado, those guys
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  Speaker 3: were superstars and have had their issues. They've cooled off
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  Speaker 3: in their careers. Tatis had the season where he was
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  Speaker 3: hurt and was suspended, no offense. But they did it
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  Speaker 3: last night. The other thing that really stood out to
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  Speaker 3: that game, going back to the Cubs kind of mailing
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  Speaker 3: it in at the end, seventh inning, Tatis goes to
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  Speaker 3: steal second base, right? And the ball goes off his foot,
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  Speaker 3: careens into the outfield. The outfielders were lackadaisical. Tatis gets
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  Speaker 3: right back on his horse. starts hustling towards home plate,
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  Speaker 3: and gets another insurance run. And watch this play here. Bango,
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  Speaker 3: watch the outfield. Hey, guys, there's a loose ball here.
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  Speaker 3: Why don't we grab it before Tatis cruises into home plate?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the play wasn't even close. I think this
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  Speaker 2: is the iconic moment right there of the entire series.
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  Speaker 2: It could be one of those moments for the whole playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to say it's Derek Jeter diving into
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  Speaker 2: the crowd, but that was cool.
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  Speaker 3: It did set the tone, and it set the tone that, like,
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  Speaker 3: we can score seven runs. And the Cubs are known
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  Speaker 3: for scoring runs and for winning in late innings. It
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  Speaker 3: felt like they didn't even engage that that could be
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  Speaker 3: a possibility at the end of the game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt like a moral victory. Meanwhile, my Phils
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  Speaker 2: had it, Paul. And this is a story of the
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  Speaker 2: Philadelphia Phillies for this era. I don't think Bryce Harper
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  Speaker 2: and Kyle Schwarber are ever going to win a World Series.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you exactly why. Any Phillies fans know this.
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  Speaker 2: The bullpen in the playoffs have been terrible. They have
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  Speaker 2: a 12.19 ERA when leading after the sixth inning loss.
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  Speaker 2: since 2024. So yesterday, they got to Atlanta early. The
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  Speaker 2: one pitcher that was going to beat them, Chris Sale
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  Speaker 2: of the Braves, they had a lead. He left, and
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  Speaker 2: they still could not come away with a W.
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  Speaker 3: It's, again, one of those games where you see that
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  Speaker 3: Chris Sale had a four-hitter. You're like, wow, he was dealing.
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  Speaker 3: They did get to him earlier. They had a chance
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  Speaker 3: to knock him out of the box, and they didn't
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  Speaker 3: do so. I don't think the Phillies are done. They
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  Speaker 3: have too much bat power to say done Like, they
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  Speaker 3: have those... Look at your face.
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  Speaker 2: They're done. Not only are they done.
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  Speaker 3: We don't do that on this show.
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  Speaker 2: We don't say done. They're done. I'll do it right now.
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  Speaker 2: Not only are they done, this era's done. Like, Bryce
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  Speaker 2: Harper in Philadelphia, I think the fans are going to
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  Speaker 2: be so upset after they lose this series. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the stat, 15 out of 16 series, Paul, why would
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  Speaker 2: this series be any different? I know that Phillies have
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  Speaker 2: that strong starting pitching, but they unfortunately, because they were
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  Speaker 2: so bad at the end of last season, they screwed
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  Speaker 2: up their rotation. I'm saying done.
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  Speaker 3: So you're saying this is a team that is technically
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  Speaker 3: in the playoffs, but not a playoff contender.
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  Speaker 2: You know what? I have no faith. And this is,
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  Speaker 2: of course, a Philly thing. I might sound extreme. Listen
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  Speaker 2: to WIP in Philadelphia. Everybody's saying the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to listen to WIP in Philadelphia. I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to have to do it through you. I listen
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  Speaker 3: to Chicago radio sometimes. And Chicago radio was very split
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  Speaker 3: today because of the White Sox winning, even though nobody
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  Speaker 3: believes the White Sox are contenders. And the Cubs, which
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  Speaker 3: have this great offense, terrible bullpen. I think there's There
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  Speaker 3: was some resentment with Cubs fans yesterday, last night, and
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  Speaker 3: this morning because it felt like a no-show game. Not
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  Speaker 3: just a game that you lost, but Michael King owned you.
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  Speaker 3: He completely owned you. Now, the Cubs, with their offense,
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  Speaker 3: can come back and do this. You're saying no with
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  Speaker 3: the Phillies.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think the Phillies, the defeat on their faces
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  Speaker 2: in the ninth inning... Yesterday, I really think the way
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  Speaker 2: wild card works, that's the thing about wild card. It's
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  Speaker 2: just over like that, Paul. And I think it's over.
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  Speaker 3: I got to keep your morale up. All right, let's
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  Speaker 3: get about, we give out helmet stickers during the NFL season.
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  Speaker 3: We're giving out Jersey patches. Very exciting. I will go
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  Speaker 3: first while you regroup and get your head together. Michael
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  Speaker 3: King of the Padres. This guy is not a household name,
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  Speaker 3: but he is a great pitcher. When he was on
• 8:11
  Speaker 3: the mound yesterday, they were talking about him and they
• 8:13
  Speaker 3: were comparing him to Tom Brady in his preparation. This
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  Speaker 3: guy is a maniac with the iPad and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And he was just dealing. He kind of has a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of a Greg Maddux vibe to him where
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  Speaker 3: he's just doing it without being a physically imposing person.
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  Speaker 3: Michael King is a great pitcher. Owned the Cubs yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: He had a no-hitter going into the seventh inning. You
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  Speaker 3: don't do that in a postseason against one of the best,
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  Speaker 3: if not the best, offense in baseball. He shut them
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  Speaker 3: down like a goaltender pitching a shutout. It was fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: Really great game. Michael King gets the jersey patch.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to the Yankees and my guy Ben Rice.
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  Speaker 2: You know where he went to college? Dartmouth. Dartmouth College,
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  Speaker 2: my alma mater. Here's the stat on him. He became
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  Speaker 2: the first player ever to have multiple homers, including a
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: grand slam. All of his team's extra base hits and
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  Speaker 2: out hit the entire opposing team in a single game.
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  Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. I mean, you can't do any more than
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  Speaker 2: he did yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Bonus coverage on Ben Rice. Grew up in Massachusetts. Grew
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  Speaker 3: up a Yankees fan, a Jeter fan. So everyone thought, well,
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  Speaker 3: clearly he's from Mass. He went to Dartmouth. You know,
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  Speaker 3: he's definitely a Red Sox fan. No go. Schlittler is.
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  Speaker 3: Nailed that name. Ben Rice, not so much.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. One thing, just people were curious. Ben Rice went
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  Speaker 2: there after. We were not there at the same time. Right.
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  Speaker 2: But I was there with Brad Alsmus, longtime manager and catcher.
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  Speaker 3: You guys both played sports at Dartmouth. You, JV, basketball.
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  Speaker 3: Ben Rice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're a little different. But I'll be honest, Ben Rice...
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  Speaker 2: You would have thought coming into this season, Ben Rice,
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  Speaker 2: a nice story. This is going to be Aaron Judge
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  Speaker 2: or Giancarlo Stanton. And now all of a sudden we
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  Speaker 2: have a new slugger. Very interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Well, if they can keep that, if they could advance
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  Speaker 3: on and give some rest to Judge, it could be
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  Speaker 3: a whole different series.
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  Speaker 2: I felt actually coming out of yesterday, the one team
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  Speaker 2: that I really felt good about was the Yankees. I
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: know Slitler owns the Red Sox in particular, but if
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  Speaker 2: he could pitch like that throughout the postseason, they're a
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  Speaker 2: very dangerous team.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say the same about the Padres. If
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  Speaker 3: they have a couple more home games, they're in great shape.
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  Speaker 3: All right, let's go to it. It's time for a
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  Speaker 3: little NFL week three in the books completely, wherever those
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  Speaker 3: books are. That's in them. We're going to do our
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  Speaker 3: September VP. We do this every month, and this is
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  Speaker 3: the first month doing it, so we've never done it before.
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  Speaker 3: This is the best player of the month in professional football.
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  Speaker 3: You're going first, Pearl.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, since you put VP most valuable player, it has
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  Speaker 2: to be Josh Allen, who you see number one in
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  Speaker 2: the actual MVP odds. Because without Josh Allen, the Bills
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  Speaker 2: are one and two. You could see it on Sunday
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  Speaker 2: against the Chargers. They are not playing well in any
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  Speaker 2: aspect of the game. And then Josh Allen absolutely puts
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  Speaker 2: him on his shoulder with his legs. He's the most
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  Speaker 2: one-person team in the NFL. It's like basketball. You know
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: how LeBron can carry a team? Josh Allen is doing
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: that with the Bills. Usually you don't see that in football,
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  Speaker 2: but to me he's the easy choice.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to go off the board just a
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  Speaker 3: little bit because I can't believe he's not on the board.
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  Speaker 3: Running back Kenneth Walker for the Chiefs, he's had a
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  Speaker 3: great season. 360 yards, 5.5 yards to carry, 11 catches
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  Speaker 3: as a bonus. And the bigger picture with Kenneth Walker
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  Speaker 3: is what he does to the Chiefs offense. You can't
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: focus on Mahomes. You can't just blitz all day. This
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  Speaker 3: guy is a power running back who has some sizzle,
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  Speaker 3: has some wiggle. He can do everything. He's in his prime.
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  Speaker 3: He's got a contract. He's on a team where he's
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  Speaker 3: probably going to go back deep into the playoffs. This
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  Speaker 3: is the best edition of the year, and he is
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  Speaker 3: my September VP, Ken Walker.
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  Speaker 2: Let's play this out. Imagine that Ken Walker keeps doing
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  Speaker 2: this all year long. Do you think there's any chance
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  Speaker 2: with Mahomes on your team that you could get some
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  Speaker 2: MVP noise? Because you will always be overshadowed by your quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: You're right.
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  Speaker 3: He's not even on the top five odds of MVP.
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  Speaker 3: But Ken Walker right now is on pace for 1,900 yards. Now,
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: there's a long way to go. But let's say he
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: gets into that 1,800-yard marker. I think he should. There's
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: that thing in the NFL that really bothers me. This
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: really bothers me. Running backs and wide receivers get, oh, boy,
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: they get the offensive player of the year because we
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: can't put them at MVP. You ask Mahomes. I know
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: Mahomes is more valuable day to day, but who's his MVP?
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  Speaker 3: I bet his vote is for Ken Walker.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, two years ago, Saquon Barkley should have won the MVP.
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  Speaker 2: And then he went into the playoffs and tore it up.
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  Speaker 2: I think that Lamar won it that year. Lamar's already
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  Speaker 2: got an MVP. He doesn't need more. Okay, coming up next,
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  Speaker 2: I have the most disappointing team in the NFL this
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  Speaker 2: year and maybe in many, many years. That's next. Not
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  Speaker 2: so fast.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Pearl, this is the midday pick-me-up, Pabst and Perloff.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's going to have that effect
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  Speaker 3: on you today.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, come on.
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  Speaker 3: That is Austin Riley of the Braves, three-run homer to
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  Speaker 3: take down your Phillies. It's not the midday pick-me-up for you.
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  Speaker 3: For Braves fans, yes. You, not so much.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man. So, manager Don Mattingly is in trouble for
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: his decision to go to the closer early. That was
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: a bit of a meatball right there to Austin Riley,
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: who hasn't been hitting at all. That was a terrible
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: way to lose this game for my Phillies.
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  Speaker 3: Did you want to watch it again? Because they have
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  Speaker 3: it ready. You can call for it any time.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm good. For the rest of my life, I'm good.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not Joe Carter bad, but it's not good.
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  Speaker 3: I like the celebration. He had like two scepters in
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: the dugout. I don't know what that was. It was
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: like a king.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I love home run celebrations. Like a jacket. We
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: should figure out something like that for Not So Fast.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: We should.
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  Speaker 3: If we ever hit a home run on this show,
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: we will celebrate that way. All right, it's time for,
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: let's get back to it. Let's regroup Pearl. Let's get
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: our heads together. We're not losers, technically. It's time for
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: Warm Takes.
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: Warm takes.
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go first. The White Sox. If you've
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: ever been in a city that has two teams, Jets
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: and Giants, Lakers and Clippers, one team soaks it all
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: up and one team is the little brother. Like Lakers
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: and Clippers, Clippers will never get the coverage. And when
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: they get coverage, it's usually for some type of scandal.
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: The White Sox know all about this. In Chicago, the
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: Chicago Cubs soak up most of the coverage in that town.
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: They're America's team. They're a national team. They're on WGN
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: for years.
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: The Cubs.
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: The stadium is the star. I mean, Wrigley Field is
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: the star. People come in, and the Cubs, it's a
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: tourist attraction. You want to go to a Cubs game.
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: And it's always an uphill battle for the White Sox. Well,
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: the White Sox have had a really interesting year. Two
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: years ago, 121 losses. Everyone talked about that. Then it changed.
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: The Pope is from the South Side, and they got
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: a little buzz for the Pope being a South Sider
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: and being a White Sox fan. And then the White
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: Sox kind of inched up. Cute story. Beyond a cute story, too,
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: making the playoffs. Yeah. Are they a 100-win team?
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: No.
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: They're more like an 80-ish win team. Murakami is a
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: good guy. He's a very interesting guy. People are jumping
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: on that bandwagon. The White Sox can force the issue.
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: All you have to do is win. You win one
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: more game, and then it's almost like you're like one
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: of those teams like George Mason in the NCAA tournament
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: where if you win a game or two, you get
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: a lot of coverage for two weeks. If you enter
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: the Sweet 16 and you're St. Peter's, you get a
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: lot of coverage. The White Sox have the opportunity to
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: change the narrative. If the Cubs lose tonight, they're out,
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: and they'll talk about that in Chicago. But I'd rather
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: be talked about being a winner. If you could just
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: get to the next round, you get all the coverage nationally, locally,
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: all good.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of funny. You compare them to
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament. Yeah. You know, you like those small
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: teams in the beginning, but then CBS or Turner want
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: them out by the Final Four. What is the deal
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: with the White Sox? Do you think MLB wants to
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: see a Chicago World Series?
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: No, if you ask MLB, they always want Yankees-Dodgers. There's
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: other teams you'd want. You'd want the Cubs because that's
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: a big.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Isn't it funny? Well, the Cubs are a Chicago team.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: They would want that team, but they definitely don't want
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: the White Sox.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: No, the White Sox were in an 0-5 versus the Astros,
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: and I don't know how much ratings that got. Again,
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: the Cubs are national, and they're like this.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: They're a lovable team, but it's not the 2016 Cubs
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: that never won before. The White Sox are now in
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: position to be the lovable team that has always struggled.
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: So I think it's a, B-level story. I don't know
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: if Major League Baseball has signed him.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because I grew up with WGN and
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: the Cubs. I knew the Cubs and everyone knows Wrigley.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: You said it very well. Nobody knows whatever Comiskey's called
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: these days.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: We call it Sox Park here.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: All right, I'll try to get into it. You've got
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: me a little bit into the White Sox. There we go. Okay,
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go to the other end of the spectrum,
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: a team that everybody knows, the Los Angeles Rams. Remember
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: the Dream Team talk from this summer? Seems like a
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: distant memory. I am issuing a warning, Paul. I call
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: it The Ramspocalypse. Okay, the Rams have two tough games
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: coming up. At Philly at 1 p.m. Eastern. I'm not
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: sure why that game is at 1 p.m. Eastern, but
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: it definitely is. And then they go, no, sorry, they
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: host Buffalo on Monday night the following week. So they're
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: 1-2 already. There's a real chance they're 1-4. They're favored
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: against the Eagles, but the Eagles, if Jalen Hurts decides
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: to run the ball for once, then the Eagles could
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: be pretty good in this game coming off a Monday
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: night loss. If the Rams go to 1-4, very, very
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: real possibility, Paul. 1-4 is not good. I looked up
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: the numbers of the 1-4 teams that made it to
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: the playoffs. Only 6% the last whatever years. Actually, yeah,
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: I did look it up. I'm not even making that up.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: It's very slim.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, I think it's a really good point because everyone
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: thought that they would be the super team. And when
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: was the last time a super team, a dubbed super
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: team worked out? And their schedule at the end gets tougher.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: It doesn't get easier.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: They have an easy run with a lot of Commanders
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: and Cardinals in there. But a couple things that worry me.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Puka Nakua might come back this week. He's not going
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: to be 100%. Myles Garrett's out a month. And then
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford does not look like last year's MVP. He
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: already has four picks on the year. That's a lot
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: for him. He looks frustrated. You saw in the Denver
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: game especially, he just looked angry in the second half.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: I think he really misses Puka Nikua.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Are you ready to call it that they're going to
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: make the playoffs or are you going to let another
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: two weeks play out?
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: I think they make the playoffs, but they're definitely going
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: to have to go on the road. I don't think
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: that they're going to host it all the way through
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl as some people expected, and I think
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: it's really wide open. The problem being the Niners and
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks sitting there in the NFC West. I'm not
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: going to call it out of the playoffs, but there's
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: some danger because there are a lot of teams with
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: an easier schedule than the Rams.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: I wonder if this is a situation where the Rams,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I wouldn't say they bought their own
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: hype because that's not fair to them. It's the injuries
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: that's really playing. But when you're expected to be great,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: There's not urgency in September.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what I want to ask about, the mental
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: aspect of this. You know, they thought they were one thing.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: After three games, they're a completely other thing. Do you
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: think that inspires them or do you think they're feeling pressure?
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Because if they go to one and four, there might
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: be some panic in LA.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: I think it's a wake-up call. I go back to
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: thinking they probably thought to themselves, we're the best team
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: in football. Don't worry about a loss here or a
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: loss there. And I think they're probably still that way.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford doesn't seem like a panic guy.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but is he playing well? It doesn't look
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: like the same offense as last year. Some teams may
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: have figured out the run game of Sean McVay. I
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: hope you're right for Rams fans' sake that it is
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: a wake-up call because I see some really disturbing trends.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: All right, let's go back to baseball. My next warm take,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: here it is. I'm going to go down the coast
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: to San Diego. You know, I'm not that big on
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: home field advantage. I think it's sometimes overrated. I know
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: there's stats that bear it out here and there, but
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I'm going to give credit where credit is due. Those
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: San Diego Padres fans last night were electric. If you
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: tuned into NBC and Peacock and saw the game right
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: before the first pitch, it was out of hand. They
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: were standing like it was the ninth inning. It was
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: absolutely fantastic. And they never stopped. They got the home
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: run from Tatis. They get the home from Machado. And
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: that emboldened them. They were up the whole game. And
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: there's an interesting thing about San Diego. They have this
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: reputation about being a laid-back, chill place. That's not the
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: case with their baseball team. And that is their team.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: When the Chargers leave, There's not a lot of options
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: in that town for sports.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: It's Padres or bust. And they have a great stadium downtown.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: But that's where I really believe that the fans stepped
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: on the gas. Pete Cromstone was getting flustered. People were
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: giving him crap. He thought he had a check swing,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: his argument with the ump, and they were just riding PCA.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: They were invested in it. So that's one of those
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: situations where a three-game series, the Padres fans are electric.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Give it up for them. They were great last night.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Home field advantage in a true sense.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Pressure on PCA had a bad postseason last year. It
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: could be over early this year. Does he respond?
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: He has to, and he has to get a couple
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: people on base in front of him. But it's a
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: fascinating situation that it makes it worse the better you
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: play in the regular season. If you're the MVP and
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: you're going to get that award in two weeks, you
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: can be out of the playoffs in a disappointing fashion
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: and get the MVP. That's the worst MVP.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: That's like Dirk Nowitzki did that one year. He won
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: the MVP, then had a disappointing early first round exit.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Then he didn't win the MVP and got to the finals.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: And the Padres, that home field isn't just the playoffs.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: They're not just showing up now.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: I looked it up.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: 41,003 a game. That's a fantastic number.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: For Oh, and it is so gorgeous there. I know
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: a lot of reporters are rooting for the Padres. They
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: get to go out and spend a week in San Diego. Okay,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to the NFL. And the
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: other end of the spectrum from the Rams is a
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: team that is playing, I think, above their head. The
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings are 3-0, and they host the Dolphins this week.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I'm giving them a 4-0. Now, Paul, you said that
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: we're not allowed to say when things are over. I
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: am giving Minnesota this victory today. Is that fair? Brian
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Flores is going to have this team so fired up
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: to face the Dolphins, the former team. They're going to
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: maul them.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: And the Dolphins are right on cue. They're doing everything
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: right by being wrong.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Right. But the problem is, the Vikings are going to
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: be one of the worst 4-0 teams we've ever seen.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I have a stat. Since 2016, there have been 50
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: 4-0 teams. Guess where the Vikings rank offensively in EPA
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: per play and analytic about how you do basically an offense? Last?
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: They're last. And know where they stand in the team
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: rankings of offense in the NFL this year?
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go last?
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: They're last. So apparently the Vikings cannot move the ball.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: They rank last with 238 yards per game. They've been
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: outgamed by 244 yards on the season. I know you're
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: a big season cumulative guy. Nothing is working for them offensively,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: and they're still 3-0.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: So you're saying they're a... Paper mache 4-0.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. It reminds you, remember when Kirk Cousins got them
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: 12 or 13 wins a few years ago? Then they
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: lost to the Giants in the playoffs.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Sam Darnold did the same thing. Got them into the playoffs, though.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: They got them into the playoffs, but that's what I'm
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: saying about this team. They could be 4-0. They could
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: be 8-0. They could end up being 13-4. I just
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: do not trust them as a team. They just happen
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: to get the right schedule at the right time, and
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: they do have an awesome defense.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: So I'm going to call a 20 here because I'm
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: going to let this play out. If somehow the Vikings
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: make it into the playoffs, Under Kyler Murray, and he
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: plays okay. They're back in quarterback no-man land because are
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: they going to let Kyler Murray go? Are they going
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: to sign him for two more years? Are they going
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: to test the waters? This is the same thing that
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: happened with Sam Darnold.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: And Kirk Cousins, too.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Sam Darnold was awesome in the regular season. He has
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: a no-show in the playoffs, and they let him go.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: They didn't trust the regular season.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: This is a Vikings thing now. They win double-digit games,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: and then they are totally... They're harmless in the playoffs.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Nobody doesn't want to see Kyler Murray in the wildcard round, Paul.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you that right now. I'm jumping ahead to January.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I think the Vikings are going to make the playoffs,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: and they're probably going to go out early like they
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: did under Kirk Cousins.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Okay, which bothers Vikings fans more, watching Sam Darnold win
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: in the playoffs and win a Super Bowl? We're watching
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Case Keenum on Monday night recover his career.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, with the Bears. With the Bears. Well, I mean,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: you could go back. I feel like every former Viking
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: quarterback looks good somewhere. You know what? I think they're
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: pretty good now. They're 3-0. They did beat the Bears,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: although it was 9-3. So they feel good now. The
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: defense has been legit. There's no doubt about that. But
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: I do worry long term. Do they have the quarterback
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: situation solved? I do not think Kyler Murray played well
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: on Sunday. I don't think Carson Wentz has played well.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I think that this is a paper mache 4-0, just
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: as you said. And I am saying, yes, 4-0. Sorry, Dolphins.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: You're salty moving on from the Phillies to the Vikings.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: How about that, Vikings fans?
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that sounds mean, but we've seen it before,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: and it's incredible. They might be the only 4-0 team
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: in the NFL, and they're not playing like it.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Yep. Coming up next, we're going to get to some
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: college football with our guy, Jaden Ball, the star running
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: back of the Florida Gators, the 4-0 Florida Gators, plus
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: our Sept Heisman. Find out next. This is Not So Fast.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Stick around.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Paul Papps, NBC Sports Now, Peacock. Paul, one of the
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: great stories of college football this year. The Florida Gators
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: are back. We love it. 4-0, 2-0 in the SEC,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: and of course they are led by Jaden Baugh, star
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: running back. Jaden, you're having an incredible season. What's Gainesville
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: like on Monday after you beat a team like Ole Miss?
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: Very exciting. In the facility, everybody's ready, trying to get
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: back to work. And It's just a little different. You
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: feel the atmosphere. You're just ready to do it again
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: for them.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: You know, your head coach, John Summerall, he's a character.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: We see him in these press conferences. Jayden, I don't
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: ever think he blinks when he's talking to the media.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Is he super intense during practice, or is he more
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: laid back? I've heard mixed reports.
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, he's intense, but he's somewhat laid back
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: as well. He'll always come around and, you know, come
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: up to me and be like, what's up, Coach? I'm like,
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: what's up, Coach? I look at him a little weird because,
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: you know, that's not normal. But other than that, yeah,
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: he cool.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I heard you say something about a Bloody Tuesday practice
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: or a Grin Tuesday. What's that about?
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: Bloody Tuesday is just like everybody knows what's coming. Everybody's
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: going to be physical. You know, we're hitting. Because it's
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: not going to be too much hitting during the week,
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: but that's one day where Coach, they want us to
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: go Full out. They want us to hit top speeds.
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: They just want to hear pads hitting each other. That's
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: a day you've got to get your body ready for.
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: Be very mentally ready for it, too.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Coach is not going to listen to us, but I
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: would give you those days off because they need you
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: on Saturday.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you something. You've been in.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Gainesville for a while. When the new coach comes there,
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: people have been off on Florida football the past couple years,
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: but it feels like everybody's back in. When did you
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: notice something was changing here with this program?
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: As soon as he walked in, honestly, he just had
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: that look in his eye, and he was just more
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: welcoming to any, you know, thoughts or, you know, ideas
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: of things we should keep. Like, he came in, the
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: first thing he asked, he's like, what should we keep
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: around here? And we told him the nutrition to staff
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: just because, like, they're great, and they've been doing so
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: much for us to get our bodies back right. So
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: I just seen so much of, you know, improvement, improvement,
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: and how he came in, we were just ready to go.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: And I was like, yeah, I got to play for him.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Jaden, actually take us back to that process. You know,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: your decision to stay at Florida got a lot of news.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Did you meet the coach and make the decision after that?
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Or what happened exactly?
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: Well, I met, well, I met coach right after the season. And,
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: you know, then when I break, as when I break,
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: it was just a little rumors and stuff going around,
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: like the transfer portal and, me going somewhere else, but
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: Coach Jim ended up coming to my grandmother's house for Christmas,
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: and it was like his dad had passed, I think,
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: a week or so ago, and he came, and he
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: was like, my dad want me here, and that just
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: showed me so much character, and it gave me so
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: much respect for him and his father as well, and
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: my grandmother, damn, they loved it, the The first hour
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: or so, we didn't even talk about football. We were
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: just talking about life and eating food, chilling, because he
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: brought his family.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: He brought the dog, his mother, the kids, and the wife.
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: It was just a good experience for all of us.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Coaches are smart. If I'm recruiting you or trying to
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: keep you at Florida, I'm eating second helpings from Grandma.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Did Grandma have the three hats and put the hat on,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: like keeping the Florida hat on right there?
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Grandma, she loved it. She was just smiling the
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: whole time, honestly.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: All right, Jayden, we're going to do you a favor. Now,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: you might not know this, but many years ago, we
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: helped Derrick Henry with his Heisman pose. He was having
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: some issues, and Paul wanted to show you his take
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: on the pose.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Well, before we start, have you practiced the Heisman pose
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: at home? And I know you might be saving it
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: for maybe the Texas game or one of the upcoming games.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Have you practiced it?
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: No, no, I just do it.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, so you got it down. You don't need any help.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: I mean, it would be best to see it from you, though,
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: you know?
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Well, see, now, I never played football. Just remember, the
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: hand's got to be out and the eye's got to
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: be back. You've got to really sell it, Jayden. You're physical.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: I can't do it. But when you get that run
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: against a big-time opponent in October, don't drop the ball.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Keep the ball tucked in tight and just go, Make
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: it happen.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: I got you.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't do that, Jaden. You don't want to look
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: like him. Okay, we have a couple of gratuitous questions
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: here at the end. So we're two middle-aged guys. I
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: weigh about 196. Paul's at about 170. Do you think
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: the two of us could tackle you in an elevator?
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Could we get you down?
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: Probably not.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the right answer.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, fair.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: But we seem like nice guys, so you'd probably take
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: it easy on us.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, taking it easy won't help y'all get any better.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: It worked out well.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: All right, we do a thing here called no such
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: thing as a dumb question. It's called such thing as
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: a dumb question. Quarterbacks like to look off the defenders.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: I was wondering, as a running back, you've been doing
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: this a long time, when you get back in the formation,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: do you sometimes look one way and the play is
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: for you to carry the ball the other way to
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: try to sell the defenders?
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: Well, honestly, I somewhat try to just look everywhere so
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: it won't give it like a telltale sign. Just because,
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: you know, I feel like as football gets more advanced,
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: they look for more, like, little details. And, like, I
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: feel like linebackers, me actually playing linebacker when I was younger,
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: I would look for, like, telltale signs from a running
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: back or quarterbacks or anything just to get the little edge.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: So I try to look everywhere, honestly.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: That's smart.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Awesome. Thank you, Jaden. Good luck the rest of the season.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Huge games coming up. We can't wait to watch. Thank
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: you very much.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: That was great.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: That was good stuff. He was very nice because he
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: could kill both of us in an elevator, no problem.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean, listen, I think he was impressed
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: with the physicality of your Heisman. Right.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: I look like I could sell the Heisman. I don't
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: look like I played football.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're good in a still when you're just standing still.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: when you actually start to move, you can tell it's
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: not all working.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: And I have trouble getting out of that Heisman pose.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Once I go low, it gets.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: You can hear the creak. I don't know if Jaden
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: picked that up over the air.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: It's great to have Jaden on Not So Fast. Pabst
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: and Perloff here. Let's stay with this topic. We do
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: a thing here called Decept Heisman. Who would have won
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: the Heisman trophy just for this month of college football? Perloff,
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go first here, and I'm going to
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: go really, really obvious because you shouldn't overthink this one.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith, the OSU wide receiver, he's everything we thought
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: he was going to be and more. If you watched
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: him against Illinois, it looked like your athletic uncle playing
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: with a bunch of little cousins in the backyard. He
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: looked like he was toying with them. He was going
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: past people as if they were wearing sponges on their feet.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith feels like the biggest sure thing at the
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: wide receiver position in a long time, and he's not
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: easing into the season. He's just wiping people off the floor.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: It's fantastic. He's your septizement winner. And I have almost
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: no doubt as these games get bigger, he's going to
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: get better.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. He's got some tough games coming up.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: First of all, you never win the Heisman in September.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: So you don't want to do this. But I feel
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: like he's going to have some Iowa to start with.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Don't you just double or triple team Jeremiah Smith?
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: I think at some point you're going to do so.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: But he's one of those guys in a tight game.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: He needs a tight game. He needs a tight game
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: against Iowa this weekend where... not just 200 yards at halftime,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: the play to win the game.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: So if you're just doing September, remember, the Heisman's a
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: narrative award, and who's been the narrative star? Of this season,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Mississippi State quarterback Kamario Taylor.
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: Good call.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: The numbers are insane, too. Fourteen touchdowns, two picks. Came
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: in with not that much hype, some hype, but he
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: has exceeded it. I think if you were going to
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: give out the trophy today, it would be a hard
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: vote because Kamario Taylor has been the story of the year.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. Kamario Taylor is really making people
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: look at that team. The next month is going to
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: decide it. Will he be a September guy who we go,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: remember him? Remember when they were 3-0, 4-0? But if
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: he's like 7-1, then he's got something.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Well, we can do this in September. It's going to
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: be two people. Then October, usually someone different in the
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: way college football goes.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: And everybody loves the October Heisman.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sick of Heisman poses instead of Heisman sayings. All right,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: coming up next, Dan Patrick talked to one of the
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: best players in the playoffs. Exciting news, maybe the best
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: pitcher in baseball. That's next. Not so fast.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Do you apologize to batters if you hit them?
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: Um, it depends, you know, obviously if you accidentally ride
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: one up and in and it catches a guy pretty high.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: I'll apologize for that. You know, send over a nice
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: bottle of bourbon or do something to apologize.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: But wait, wait, wait, you'll buy somebody a bottle of
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: liquor if you accidentally hit them.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: And like, if I, if I hit a guy in
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: like the head or something, yeah, that's, That's like, hey,
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. This is on me. I hope we don't
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: have no hard feelings. It wasn't on purpose.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Back on the clip joint, Paxton Perloff here. That was
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: 6-7 Jacob Mizorowski of the Brewers. The Brewers are in
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: great shape. They're not even in the playoffs yet because
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: they can let him rest a little bit. Next week,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: it's all them. Fascinating here because baseball has a lot
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: of etiquette. And if you notice, usually when a pitcher
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: hits a batter, there's very little like, I'm sorry. They
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: rarely go shake a hand. This isn't Little League baseball.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Once in a while, you'll get one of those My bads.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Almost like when you're merging traffic and you cut someone off,
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: you give them the my bad. But the fact that
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Mizorowski sends over some booze, some hooch.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Amazing. First of all, I'm amazed that he's old enough
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: to buy booze. I guess I've never seen him without
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: his hat on. Was that Mizorowski or was that his
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: 12-year-old brother? He's a young-looking man.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he does not have a shaving deal because he
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: doesn't shave.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: He looks so nice. I'm not surprised that he's apologizing
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: a little bit for hitting guys. I want my ace
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: to be a little more gnarly, a little more manly man.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Well, I find this interesting because it's pure baseball etiquette.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: You don't apologize during the game because you don't do
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: that in front of the crowd. But you may send
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: over to his hotel with the three-game stretch in Milwaukee.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: I'll call the local booze place and send him over
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: some good stuff.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: But did Nolan Ryan do that? Did Roger Clemens do that?
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Because it's a long, you know, especially in baseball, it's
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: a long series. You're going to face that guy again.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I would throw it at his head and then I'm
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: not going to send a gift.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: No, I could, not like a muffin basket, but if
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: you accidentally go toward someone's head and you say like,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: hey man, nothing personal. It does feel like a different era.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: And Nolan Ryan would send over like a bill for something.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't like it, Paul. I want my
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: guy to have, first of all, a mustache, a little
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: more facial hair. Right. That was way too clean cut
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: for my taste.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: So Mizorowski can throw 105, but he's got to be
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: more intimidating.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: His throwing is so nasty, but his persona is so
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: boy next door. I didn't get all that together, and
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: the apology, I don't like it, Paul.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Nobody chops up baseball like that so fast. All right,
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: let's get to it. Earlier on the Dan Patrick Show,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Devin McCourty, former defensive back for the Patriots, joined the show,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: and he talked about playing for Belichick and He played
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: for Belichick with his twin brother, Jason McCourty. And how
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: did Bill deal with that?
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Could you have gotten into his uniform and he got
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: into your uniform and nobody would have known the difference?
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Especially Belichick. He would not have known at all until
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: the play started.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: And then he would be like, what the hell is
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: going on? Then he would have known the difference right away.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: That's fantastic. They were very good players. They weren't like
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: a novelty act. These are both very good players.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Very good.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Long NFL careers, the both of them. But the fact
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: that Bill Belichick He seems like a guy who doesn't
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: learn your name really early in training camp. He calls
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: you 47 until you have a couple starts.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Right. I think Tom Brady had to win a Super
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Bowl for him to realize who that was. One of
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: the most anxiety-provoking things for the media, especially during Super
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Bowl week, is telling which McCourty brother you're talking to.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: It's happened to me many times on Radio Row. They
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: are really identical. I mean, that is not a joke.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Even way more so than Rondé and Tiki, who are
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: also identical.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: We've also worked with Rondé and Tiki, and they don't
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: really look that much alike, like.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know about that.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: If you get to know them a little bit, they
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: look completely different. But the McCourty's, I got nothing.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Even Belichick does different. Although I did see Devin
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: was talking a lot of trash about his brother's game.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: He's like, I'm the good one. You can tell by
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: the quality of play.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Should the McCourty's have to wear socially their football jerseys?
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Well, that's not going to help.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you put D. McCourty, J.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: McCourty.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: And then you can help us out.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: A little bit. Socially, or what if they're wearing a suit,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: which they often do on TV? Can they still have
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: the nameplate? Yeah, I don't think they're going to do that.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: They seem to enjoy this, and I think they have
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: done switcheroos before.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: You know what's great about these guys? They were both
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: very good players. Sometimes you have brothers who play in
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: the league, and one's fantastic, and the other is just
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: kind of a borderline guy. It's like you want your
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: brother to be equal to you, and they're pretty equal careers.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Tiki a little bit. I worked with
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: him in I do do the joke all the time
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: that he's Rondé. He doesn't find it funny, though.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: No, he doesn't. The seventh time he didn't find it funny?
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: No, no, no.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: But I do always tell him that you are a
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: huge Tiki Barber should be in the Hall of Fame guy.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Rondé is in the Hall of Fame.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: I could do an hour on Tiki Barber in the
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, but nobody is. No one's picking up
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: that traction with my bit there.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: No, not at all. All right, let's go back to
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: baseball for our next clip. John Fanta is on the sideline. Padres,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Cubs doing yeoman's work. He talked to Fernando Tatis and
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: asked him, what was better, the home run or scoring
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: on a stolen base?
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: That's a tough question, man.
• 36:44
  Speaker 7: I go probably running around the bases. You know, you
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: feel the stadium, also the home run was going crazy.
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: Everybody was going crazy. The atmosphere here was amazing and
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: all credit to the fans, man. They gave us that
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: extra push and wow, it was amazing to be out here.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: You know, it's great to see him on national TV
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: making plays like that.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: John Fanta?
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, John Fanta, of course. But Tatis Jr., he was
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: a superstar four or five years ago. He had the
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: injuries and the suspension and he just kind of came
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: back to earth. Still a very good player. But what
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: you saw last night is pure star power.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, no. I don't like to root for non-Phillies that much.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Fernando Tatis is one of my guys. Transpixing. Yeah, he's
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: one of those baseball players. Just his style and even
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: this play last night. I don't think there are a
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: lot of players who have the same level of excitement.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: And he's another guy you kind of root for even
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: if you don't like the Padres. Now, Machado is the opposite.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: He's a guy I do not root for even though
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: he's an excellent player. Yeah, I mean, he's had sort
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: of a career that's been up and down the way
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: he's left teams. But Tatis has almost universal praise. And
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: you're a Cubs fan, and he kind of beat you.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Does he bother you?
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: No, I think, like you said, there are certain players
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: you almost give respect for. If you want to go
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: a generation ago, remember Eric Davis from the Reds.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: He could do everything. Oh, he was awesome.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: And you just like those guys, and you hate seeing
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: them get hurt because their career is just peak. And
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: if you want to go back even further, back in
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: the day, Mike Schmidt used to destroy the Cubs.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: He went four for five every single game. But you
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: have to respect and say, hey, that's a great ball player.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: I wish we had him, but we don't.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: I think Shohei Ohtani's that guy. Totally. I think everybody
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: roots for Shohei, even if you hate the Dodgers and
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: what they're doing for baseball. Is it quite the level
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: of Michael Jordan? Because I'll tell you one thing. In
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: the 80s and 90s, I was a Michael Jordan fan.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: You had to. And everyone I knew was. And that
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: didn't mean I liked the Bulls, but I liked Michael Jordan.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Well, it means you know the game of basketball. That's
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: what it really means. I mean, it does. If you
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: appreciate the sport, you appreciate greatness.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: But there are other great players. I hated Larry Bird,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: but Michael Jordan was so dominant. Yeah, of course. I
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: was a Sixer fan. I hated Larry Bird. But I
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: think Tatis, guys who are really athletic and really demonstrative,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: that helps.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: It's time for the rando. This is one of our
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: favorite clips of the week. It's taken over social media.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Northwestern Football built a new stadium. They spent $ 875 million
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: on their new stadium. Here's their locker room. Guess why
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: they didn't spend $ 900 million? Because take a look at
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: the opposing locker room. Look at that.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: It's so narrow.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: That looks like an OSHA violation. There's wires hanging down.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: That's brand new.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: How's a football team going to even fit into that thing?
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Now, some people are trying to shame Northwestern Football by
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: not spending on the opposing locker room. I commend them.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: You want to make it as comfortable as possible for
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: the opposition.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: These seats, are you going to catch your leg on
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: a sharp thing?
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Is this carpet new?
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: New-ish?
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: You know, what does it smell like in there?
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I've kind of made fun of Northwestern
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: football on the show a little bit. Why are they
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: building such a nice home locker room? For what? For football?
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Or is that where the journalists work? I don't understand.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Do they want to be Indiana? Is that what's happening here?
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. I think we're in an era
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: where they could be Indiana. If you find one or
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: two benefactors, they have a lot of money you could spend. Now,
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Northwestern is going to have trouble getting in all the
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: athletes they want to get in.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, like Notre Dame?
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: With academics.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: But, you know. Northwestern football just wants to be above average.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: They just want to be seven, eight wins a year
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: and then maybe have one of those years where you
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: go to a Rose Bowl every once in a while.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: I think that stadium says at least college football playoff.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, the locker room says college football playoff.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: But the stadium is under 45,000 people. That means college
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: football playoff appearance.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, at best.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: At best. All right, coming up next, new segment. A
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: lot of people here love sports. We were watching sports
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: with them yesterday. Questions from the back room. We have
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: no idea what's coming. It's going to be questionable. Stick around.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Not so fast.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Welcome back. Not so fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Pabst,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: NBC Sports Now, Peacock. We're going to talk more baseball
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: in a minute. But first, Paul, I understand there's a
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: new segment.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Hot new segment, Perloff. It's called Questions from the Back Room.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Very exciting. Hosted by Dan Patrick Show editor... not-so-fast correspondent
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: and popular host of The Cutoff, the baseball podcast.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Love it.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: That is sweeping the country. Dan Gardella joining us. Great
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: to have you, Dan.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me, guys.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: A lot of energy in the back room. I was
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: back there minutes ago, and I heard not just debate
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: but arguments going on. Is that your first question, or
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: are you saving that one?
• 40:52
  Speaker 8: We're going to save that. We call that a tease
• 40:53
  Speaker 8: in the business. We have a couple questions from the
• 40:55
  Speaker 8: back room here. We have a lot of thoughts as well,
• 40:57
  Speaker 8: so we figured we'd throw some at you guys and
• 40:59
  Speaker 8: see what you think.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Great.
• 41:00
  Speaker 8: All right, let's start with the first one. So in November,
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: a John Madden movie coming out. A little bit of speculation,
• 41:06
  Speaker 8: a lot of talk. Nick Cage is the main actor
• 41:09
  Speaker 8: in that. So I ask you guys, what is the
• 41:12
  Speaker 8: most accurate sports movie you've seen? It could be from
• 41:14
  Speaker 8: the plot, the actors looking like the athletes themselves.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: What do you guys think?
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: I'll go first. I think it's Hoosiers. It's based on
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: the Milan Miracle in 1954, high school, the movie Hoosiers.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Bobby Plump was the actual guy who hit the shot
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: to win the title. And he held the ball for
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: like four minutes. And if you watch the end of
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: the game, Jimmy Chitwood holds the ball for like 20 seconds.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: So it's similar-ish. And they definitely look like 50s basketball players.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, Paul. I feel like you want
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Hoosiers to be a real-life story. I thought that was
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: pretty dramatized. How about when Will Smith played Ali? I
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: thought Will Smith did a good Ali. And we actually
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: know that happened exactly like it happened in real life.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: I think that's a good call. The boxing scenes in
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: that were not over-the-top. They were very true.
• 41:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Chadwick Boseman, 42. I'm a baseball guy. That's the
• 41:57
  Speaker 8: one I always defer to.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Let's stick with baseball.
• 42:00
  Speaker 8: The MLB playoffs started yesterday. Four games, another four games today.
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: This one was actually asked by Jack, one of my
• 42:05
  Speaker 8: fellow editors sitting right here.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: So he's giving a wave.
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: Shout outs.
• 42:09
  Speaker 8: What are your most memorable MLB moments? I think I
• 42:11
  Speaker 8: know Paul's, but I figure I asked both of you.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Well, mine's kind of weird because I went to games
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: three and four of the Cubs World Series in 2016.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: They lost both those games. So it started as a
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: great day became a painful mass of drunkenness and walking
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: home from Wrigley Field two nights in a row. They
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: ended up winning the World Series, but those two days were...
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: a mixed bag of emotions.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: You know, I actually have a thought. When I first
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: started a Dan Patrick show, the Phillies won the World Series.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: They beat the Rays. And I went down to Philadelphia
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: for the parade and called into the Dan Patrick show.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: And I remember Paul and Dan and everybody was having
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: so much fun because I think I got lost. And
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: I was on some random Philadelphia street about three blocks
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: away from the parade. And I said, Dan, I I
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: think there's something wrong with the parade. I just saw
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: basically a guy drive by in a van. Is that
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: the parade?
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: It was the parade's fault, not Perloff's fault.
• 43:00
  Speaker 8: No bedlam at the bank, Perloff?
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that was pretty cool. But listen, I go
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: way back. You know, I remember Mike Schmidt there. So,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: you know, for me, like my core memories are the vet,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: which you probably don't have never even heard of.
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: See, I wouldn't know what it was, except I was
• 43:15
  Speaker 8: born and raised in Phillies baseball. My dad was a
• 43:17
  Speaker 8: Philly fan. So, you know, I got my education. I'm young,
• 43:21
  Speaker 8: but I'm wise, as they say.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 43:23
  Speaker 8: Let's go to the last one. Now, this was the
• 43:25
  Speaker 8: one that had a lot of arguments back here. We
• 43:27
  Speaker 8: actually had to pause it when Paul walked in because
• 43:29
  Speaker 8: we wanted to save it. If there was one sport
• 43:32
  Speaker 8: that you could be better at than everybody else in
• 43:35
  Speaker 8: the world, which sport would it be and why?
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm purposely going to take off the high-paying
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: sports because I think that's too easy. I think it'd
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: be surfing. I think I'd like to be the best
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: surfer in the world. Seems like lifestyle-wise, that's about as
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: good as it gets. You get up, you go to
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: the beach, you go to the surfing competitions. And then
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: you eat fish tacos and take naps. I mean, I
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: think I'd like to be the best surfer in the world.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: That's a terrible idea. Sharks.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: But not from the best. The second best guy is
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: getting eaten by sharks.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: A shark doesn't know if it's Kelly Slater up there.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: I think I would never. I'm hanging with Pam Anderson.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: He's shark meat.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: So I was thinking about something like pool like that,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: but you could go anywhere. I think golf would be
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: the best because unlike basketball, baseball, football, You can play
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: until you're 70. Obviously, Tom Watson almost won the British
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Open at 59. So I think being the best golfer
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: ever would be. Except, Paul, you always have a question.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: What does a golfer do when he retires?
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you retire as a golfer, you go get
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: a desk job somewhere.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: No, but to be great at golf, can you imagine
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: how cool that would be? Just walk up on any
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: foursome and drive the green, and you're all set.
• 44:41
  Speaker 8: And I'm very bad at golf, so I think that's
• 44:43
  Speaker 8: part of the reason. Yeah, the arguments here were golf.
• 44:47
  Speaker 8: It was basketball. It was a little bit back and forth.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: I went basketball.
• 44:50
  Speaker 8: If I have the chance to make $ 60 million a year,
• 44:52
  Speaker 8: I'm taking that. And then I can go golf later. Like,
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: that's always there, like you guys just said. So a
• 44:56
  Speaker 8: lot of argument back here, but some good stuff.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, great argument. Like that. Good to hear you, Dan.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Great to have you on the show. Can't wait to
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: hear the next podcast about the MLB playoffs.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, guys.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: See ya.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: All right, well, that was fun. Yeah. Dan Gardella. We'll see. OK,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: let's look at the matchups for later today. Philly at
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Atlanta at 2 p.m. Eastern. White Sox Astros. Then tonight
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: we got the Red Sox, the Yankees and the Cubs
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: at the Padres. So, Paul, we're one game in, but
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: teams can be eliminated. What's the name of the game
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: we're playing?
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Clinch or clench. Will they clinch a spot in the
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: playoffs or will they clench up? And bow out. I'm
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: really worried about the graphic for this segment.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Okay, why don't you start? Who is bowing
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: out after today?
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: You know, the Red Sox don't have the bats. And,
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: you know, the Yankees don't look fantastic without Judge out long-term.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: But short-term, they look great. And Schlittler was awesome. Ben
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Rice was awesome. Not enough bats for the Red Sox.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: I think they're done. And the Astros seem uninspired. I
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: don't know how they got to the playoffs in the
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: first place. They were outscored this season, which should be
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: wrong to be in the playoffs. So the Astros seem uninspired.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: Not a lot of juice in the building. I think
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: the White Sox take him down.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm actually keeping the Red Sox alive. I think
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: they win Game 2 and lose Game 3. And I'm
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: actually keeping the Phillies alive, even though I said they're done.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: They are done.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: You called them done a half an hour ago.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Because of the Phillies. They're absolutely going to lose Game 3.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: They don't want to put Andrew Perloff out of his
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: misery in two games. They want to make as much
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: baseball pain... as possible, and Christopher Sanchez is going today,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: and he's awesome.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: Big picture done, small picture, they're winning tonight, so it
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: really hurts.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Exactly. There's nothing more painful than losing in baseball, especially
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: with a slow ninth inning. The Phillies are going to
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: lead in game three and blow it, because that's what
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: they always do. I'm calling it right now, and Paul,
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: you do say, not so fast, we don't call anything
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: over until it's over. This is over. It's over.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: Not tonight, but it's over bigger.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: So constructive criticism time. What we're doing, what you think,
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: send it in on Twitter. We'll get to it. We'll
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: put you up on the big board.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: First one, Pearl. What's the over-under on how many games
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: LeBron and Embiid play together this season? Well, you have
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: to start with Embiid.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this is an under. Give me any number.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: I'll go 49 and a half.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: 49 and a half?
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: I think the goal is to get Embiid every other start.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: So you're looking maybe 44 and a half, 43 and
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: a half.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: But what about LeBron's March groin injury? Every February, March,
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: he has a groin injury. Is that scheduled already? Yeah,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: it's scheduled. He's going to be in Barbados. LeBron always
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: takes an injury vacation toward the end of the season.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: No way do they play 49.5. I'd say an accurate
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: number is 32.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: All right, next one, constructive criticism. Let's go to it.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Here we go. Just maybe J.J. McCarthy is the next
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: Sam Darnold. Wouldn't that be a great story? Yeah, it'd
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: be a great story. Are you betting on that, David D.?
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It feels like we're a long way
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: from there. And remember, Darnold had a few stops.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't think J.J. McCarthy is as good
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: as Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold was a New York Jet
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: and actually played okay. So I'd say that's way, way
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: out of the question.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: Time for the feel-good. Put you in a good mood
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: before we wrap up here and watch some baseball. Keep
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: your head up, Pearl. This is Patrick Mahomes. You know him.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: He plays football. That's with his son. It's T-ball time.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: His son's name, I'm checking my notes here, is Bronze.
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: Huh.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: And he has another son named Golden.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's not fair.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: That's like naming your son third place Mahomes. Why would
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: you name your son Brown?
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: I have no idea. I don't get it.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Is it a nickname?
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: I think one of them might be a nickname because
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: he does have a kid named Patrick Mahomes.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: Because I like Browns Mahomes. That sounds like a quarterback.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: By the way, that kid is probably a future MLB
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: starting pitcher. Patrick Mahomes, of course, is from a baseball family,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: played baseball himself.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: I think it's going to work out well for that youngster.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know how, but it's going to.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: But he's still named Browns.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: Coming up tomorrow, J.J. Watt on the Dan Patrick Show.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Then come hang with us on Not So Fast right after.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: That's it. Enjoy the baseball.