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Growth Mindset Miracle: Ademola Odewade x Shannon Michelle on Wealth, AI in Business & Resilience · King Dems Podcast | Growth Mindset, Leadership, AI and Business Insights

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  Not believing that you are are these other people, not
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  believing you are these other things.
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  Just remembering that you, you are who you are and that's all
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  that matters. When you have trauma happen to
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  you, just keep going back into your heart and your soul and
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  remembering who you are, even though you feel like you're in a
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  bit of a chaos or you're in the darkest, deepest moments that
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  you can feel, that's OK too. That's growth.
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  Feel it, be it, and then let it go.
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  It's OK to let it go. Like feel dark and deep because
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  you will. And I have, and I've had to
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  learn how to get through that day and then sometimes just go
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  to bed and wake up the next day and see how that day felt and
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  doing that where you're just trying to achieve the best that
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  you are today. And that's it.
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  That's to me how anybody can get through whatever they're going
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  consultation. We alive ladies and gentlemen,
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  you once again welcome to the King James podcast and today
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  I've got with me a very, very, very special guest fighting out
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  of Los Angeles, United States of America.
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  Make welcome, Shannon, the step into your miracle author Bishop.
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  How are you, Shannon Mitchell? I live.
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  Wow, are you pumped for this one?
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  Because I just gave you a Bruce buffer introduction you give.
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  Beautiful introduction. Thank you.
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  You're welcome, You're welcome. You're thinking, oh, who is
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  Shannon Michel now is you're a fighter.
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  You know, it's just gonna be. I'm a lot of things.
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  There's a lot of layers to this individual, but yes, I am.
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  I'm just right now, again, I stay super present and I love
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  who I am and what I have to share and give and whatever that
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  sequence is, I love being in it. And this morning, it's you and
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  I. Oh wow, absolutely, absolutely.
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  You've got a lot to share. You're not a fighter, you know,
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  in the cage and the Octagon and the rink, or you are a fighter
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  in life. And that is why you are the
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  prestigious author of Step Into Your Miracle.
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  But before we step into our miracle, let us step into the
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  troubled waters first. Of course, you know, would I say
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  probably the disasters are what lead to the miracles, right?
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  So for those people who are just meeting you for the first time,
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  I'm not meeting you for the first time.
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  So I am privileged. Those people meeting you for the
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  first time, how would you describe the journey that
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  brought you to where you are today?
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  It's it's been many layers, but I'll start with approximately 3
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  years ago, I was in a very severe motorcycle accident which
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  changed my life. I was broken like you name it.
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  I mean, some are obvious in so many pieces, brain mostly.
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  And and I, I sat and I was, and these are things I was told too,
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  because I had traumatic brain injury and they kept me in a
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  coma for a few months and they had to put all my parts and
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  pieces back together. And I was in the hospital for
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  three months total. And then I came home and at the
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  back end, I was just relearning everything because I didn't even
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  know like at the beginning phases, who my daughter was,
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  what I, what I, where I was physically like I kept thinking
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  I was in a different state. I kept waking up and thinking I
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  was in a different state. And you know, and it took a long
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  time to kind of come back to who I am and who I became post all
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  of that because I became a very different person, but still very
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  similar to what I call the Shannon Michelle one and the
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  Shannon Michelle 2. And it's.
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  A seasonal movie. Yes, it is.
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  And then I don't, I mean there's layers of it that we can get
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  into however you'd like to. Definitely.
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  You take the lead, you know, and of course, that's why we have to
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  step into the miracle. You know, you start from the
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  disaster, yes, and leading to the miracle.
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  But I'd like to speak about how much I relate to your experience
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  in life. You know, there are always
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  turning points in life for great people like yourself and myself.
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  By extension, I very much understand what it means to be
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  in a life threatening accident as well.
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  We've had this conversation and for me, I'm, I'm grateful it, it
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  did not take, but I don't know, it took a lot for me, but maybe
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  not as much as it could possibly be because even till today, I
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  still feel the feel the pains, you know, muscular, muscular.
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  Is it, what do you call it? Musculoskeletal?
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  You know, pains, you know, in the back and it's, it's not
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  funny, you know, when you leave a pains, but sometimes in life,
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  pains actually trigger you to pursue your purpose in life.
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  And when you pursue your purpose, you can attain power.
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  And with power, you can make impact.
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  So for me, it made me see life differently.
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  It made me more grateful about life.
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  It made me more resilient. It made me, you know, more
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  willing to chase my purpose and my passion, 'cause, you know,
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  life is a privilege. It's not a right.
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  And if you do not chase your passion, if you don't chase your
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  purpose, you won't be able to make impact in life, right?
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  So for me, that's, you know what I'll just say simply, but it's
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  not about me today. It's about you.
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  And you know your extraordinary story.
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  You know what? When you think about the first
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  slogan of this podcast, it was sharing the stories of ordinary
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  people doing extraordinary things.
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  And you fit perfectly into that line.
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  Thank you I. Thank you for coming today.
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  I have a lot of gratitude as well for for for every every
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  minute of every day that I am now alive.
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  And I love that I can see the world in such a different from
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  different views or a different view completely than I did
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  before, Where it's like to have gratitude for the littlest
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  things, which are the most important, you know, is to me
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  the most empowering thing that any person can gain.
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  And if it is so simple sometimes, but every moment,
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  every moment is staying present and just taking in what is being
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  shown and spoken through you and to you.
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  And sometimes we get lost in the mess of everything else.
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  And it's very easy to get convoluted in your life and not
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  see yourself. And I think the most important
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  thing that I hope to share is like, how can you get through
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  and to see your true self, you know to.
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  See your true self, you know, So somebody on this podcast once
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  said adversity introduces a man to himself.
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  Yes, it can. I can't.
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  I think layers in life show us, lead us, guide us, teach us, and
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  sometimes we need to be more broken than others to really
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  wake up. At least that's how I feel.
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  I, I think that we go through, as you just said, the trials and
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  tribulations of things for growth, for love, for
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  understanding. And when you can see trauma in
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  that way, that's a beautiful place to sit when bad things
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  happen and you don't take it personally and you don't think
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  that it was supposed to happen to you, but you actually take,
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  take in what you're being taught and then grow even bigger.
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  I mean, that's, that's empowering.
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  Yeah, you talk about growth and I'm grateful you're talking
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  about growth because why do we look into the Moto or the
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  subtitle of this podcast right now, July 2025?
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  It is growth mindset, leadership and business insights, right?
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  Good mindset is at the core. That's a foundation of what this
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  podcast is built on. And I'm grateful that you are
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  highlighting it and you are putting it out there in, you
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  know, the limelight, that it deserves the spotlight in it and
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  letting people know that it is essential for you to have a
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  growth mindset, for you to have self discovery, self fulfilment
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  and self actualization. And I appreciate you very much
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  for that. You know, they say sticks and
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  stones may break my bones, but words won't harm me, right?
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  But I'd like for you to talk to that.
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  You know, when you're broken as a person, but your soul, your
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  spirit is not broken. I think that is the real
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  resilience. Yeah.
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  People just use the word resilient, right?
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  But it takes a lot to be resilient.
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  Yes, it does. Sometimes it's even hard to see
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  yourself as resilient because like it, just like, yes, I am
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  and yes, I will continue to be and yes, I will continue to feel
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  like I'm not because it's a mix of all of it and it's OK to be
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  resilient, feel resilient and also feel broken.
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  Like all of it, all of it gives you power, you know, it's all
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  insightful channels to how you can be the best you you can be.
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  And to me, the resilience in my life has been leaps and bounds
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  bigger than most. Between my motorcycle accident,
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  being in a traumatic brain injury that I remember being mid
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  state. And that's the only thing that I
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  can remember is literally almost like being held in between life
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  and death and being surrounded by angels and, and that being
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  what saved me to come back in a way for my daughter.
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  And then I came back and came back so broken.
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  And I, I feel like I knew what I was having to come back into
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  before I even made. I don't know if it'd be called
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  the decision to come back, but I do think that there was a moment
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  where I was in between and I could see a better place than
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  where my body SAT. And that that's the resilience
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  of coming back into something that's so broken that you're
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  able to move through it and be in it and learn from it and not
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  let it break you spiritually, You know, so like I was, I was
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  given the gift of, of, of, of seeing all of me.
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  Not the parts that I can remember, not the parts I want
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  to be, but the the full me. You know, it literally reminds
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  me of when they say giving up the ghost, right?
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  And a lot of people never understand it in their lifetime
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  what it means to be in between. It's very hard to even
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  verbalise. It's hard.
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  And I think like people experience it in different ways.
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  For me, I probably haven't said this before, but yeah, in that
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  accident, I know there was like 30 seconds of my life that I
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  cannot account for. But what I remember is I felt
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  like I was going into a dark hole, right?
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  I felt like just crumbling into that hole and I did not like and
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  I'm like, no, I can't go there, man.
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  Like I will. I will stop on lions, period.
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  The lions are behind me. And I know I just, you know, the
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  fact that consciousness, right. And it was scary.
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  But me, I'm, I'm not the type of person to be scared, you know,
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  on any, any given day, yeah, I was just relaxed.
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  And next thing I saw people come in or like, oh, it's a guy still
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  alive. Is he still alive?
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  And then, you know, they were jacking the doors open.
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  And then so I was trapped with the seat belt.
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  And I looked at my hands, blood dripping, got my body blood.
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  Then the blood was what brought me to reality.
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  Like, hey man, what's going on here?
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  This is not heaven yet. What is good on here?
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  Yeah, everybody has their own beliefs of, you know, of, you
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  know, the the heaven and hell version and there's all kinds of
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  different ways that we can express that.
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  But you had a moment where you woke, where you re woke up.
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  Right. Yeah.
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  Yeah. And I just heard the people
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  shout, hey, thank God. Thank God that like I was
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  hearing different voices. I won't like sort of guy who was
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  trying to even steal from me. I I don't want to use curse
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  words, but May God, May God, May God bless him like.
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  No, no, no. But I love that.
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  You're the guy was whispering. He was whispering into my ears.
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  Do you have any valuables in the car?
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  And then I'm like, he wouldn't have valuables.
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  When I tell you I do you think I'm stupid?
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  I may be vulnerable, but I'm not.
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  I'm not, I'm not, I'm not stupid, but well.
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  Thanks for sharing that. I just, I love it when I can
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  experience somebody else's experiences through their words,
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  through their mouth. And you know, you sharing that
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  story with me is like there are all these connections and all
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  these moments of being exactly who you are and sharing who you
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  are that are so important and this moment right now.
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  I was like, I didn't know that. That's really good to know, but
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  you also. That is why, that's why I always
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  say this, that I'm the most authentic person walking the
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  surface of the earth, hence I'm an endangered species.
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  You guys need to protect me. Number one, most authentic.
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  I guess Michelle is probably like number #99 on the rankings.
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  You need to work harder to come up to my level.
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  Guy, are you're talking about me, Michelle.
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  Shannon. Michelle.
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  OK, I got lost for a second. Yeah.
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  You're night tonight, you know, But take heart, take so listen
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  the fact that you're more than 7 billion people.
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  Yes, I'm going to I'm going to pay honour to this moment and I
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  appreciation and gratitude for you sharing your your experience
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  with me. I'm giving you the ranking.
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  I think you're the top 100 in the world.
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  And you know, I love about this moment.
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  I love that you're sharing that and I have no idea what that
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  means and I really don't care. I just don't.
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  I'm serious, I'm honest, like. OK, OK.
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  That is going to that is going to bump you up the rankings
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  because you what? Happened my honesty.
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  Honesty Honesty is a mature. It is.
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  A Honesty is key to authenticity.
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  It is. It is.
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  It is. It is, you know.
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  Some. People enjoy it and some people
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  don't, you know? Yes, absolutely, you know, it.
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  It makes you annoying to people that let's let's not lie.
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  Yes, it it makes you annoying to people, but it also makes you
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  like highly, highly appreciated by people, especially when they
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  really need to hear the truth and when they need you know that
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  unbiased, you know, opinion or judgement or discretion.
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  Now, people will always be trying to achieve because they
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  know that what they see is what they get.
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  You know, no fluff you you're real, right?
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  And look how. That feels to my realness is.
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  Well, why are you consistently real?
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  You know, it makes you dependable and reliable.
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  Yes, yes, we keep talking about stepping to your miracle.
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  Let's step into your miracle. You know it's deeply evocating,
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  right? But what does that word miracle
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  personally mean to you? I am a blessing.
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  I am I am a connection that is here to share with others.
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  And I feel like I've been blessed in ways that there are
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  no words that could explain it. And miracle is a word that
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  people can connect with. I am a miracle.
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  And the fact that I'm sitting here even having this
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  conversation with you right now is a miracle.
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  And everyday even post all of the obvious chaos miracles that
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  happened, I still everyday feel surrounded by such greatness and
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  wonder that I'm I'm still sitting here going like, oh, oh,
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  OK, I'll have more. And that to me is a miracle to
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  just keep accepting all the goodness and to keep giving all
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  of what I have to share. I.
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  Yeah, you know the idea that popped in my head right now.
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  Tell me, OK, I'm about to give you a middle name, right.
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  So you are a miracle. Where I come from in Nigeria, in
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  Yoruba language, miracle is called Iyano.
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  Iyano. That's a yeah, that's a your my
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  word for miracle. And I see right here our
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  audience are not going to be able to see it because this this
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  the studio camera I have my middle name is CMA.
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  That's AI O you are Shannon Michelle, but you don't have
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  that middle name. So I'm going to give you Yano.
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  So you're going to be SIM that SIM.
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  I like it. Let's write it in.
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  You're going to have you're going to have to text me that so
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  or e-mail me. That's why I remember.
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  Absolutely. You know in in the post, in the
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  post interview e-mail, I'm going to add it to it.
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  Just your new name, Yanu. That is miracle.
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  I add it to your LinkedIn, yes. I will add it to my LinkedIn as
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  well. Absolutely.
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  I can I add it where I can to remember.
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  And I, I that's the other thing as I keep understanding that
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  each of these moments are empowering and wonderful.
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  And I don't know what I'm going to remember about any of this
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  other than now there's going to be this, you know, version I can
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  go back and look at and relearn what I said.
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  And we know even within my book, like I have to keep looking at
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  it, listening to it and reading it to remember what I said in my
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  own book. So there's part of me that is
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  found a way to not forget things that are important.
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  That moment that you just shared with me, that was inspiring for
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  me. I can't wait to see it.
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  I can't wait to to add it to my, my, what do you call that
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  lineage? You know, whatever.
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  I don't even know the word you do, you'd use to put it in
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  there. But I I like that.
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  That was inspiring to give to me.
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  I you're welcome. I always try to give people hope
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  and I feel blessed, you know, to be that messenger of hope
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  because hope is basically the substance of life.
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  Even the Bible says faith is the substance of things, you know,
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  says is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of
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  things not seen. So hope is actually very, very
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  important. Let's think about what life
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  would be without hope. Oh absolutely it would.
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  A lot of people live life without hope and that is always
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  so sad to me when they can't, when they can't find places
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  within either themselves or their environments where they
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  can see something better and bigger, less painful, more
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  inspiring. Again, you can put lots of words
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  around it, but many people sit in doubt and not in help.
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  And that makes me sad because I can't imagine.
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  I can't imagine having wake up, woken up and not heard the birds
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  and only felt the pain. You know, is that could have
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  been what I would have done and that would not have been pretty
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  physically, mentally, spiritually, you name it.
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  It's important to have that hope that you're talking about.
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  And I'm, I'm again a big believer in faith and being
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  present and aware. You know, I.
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  Want to talk about your book, right?
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  Step it into your miracle. What?
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  What really inspired you to try to document your experience
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  despite the fact that you couldn't even, you know, put it
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  together, you know, articulate it, you know, in a way that you
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  could remember in detail or there must have been some
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  inspiration, some thought process.
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  And of course, like that motivation, the the the
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  proverbial, would I say straw that broke the camel's back.
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  Yes, it started when I was in the nursing hospital and I was
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  so frustrated with waking up and then being told, I already told
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  you that, but don't you know where you are?
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  I remember being held. Somebody came and held my phone
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  to me and I was like, they're like, do you remember that?
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  I'm like, no. And they're like, that's your
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  phone. You know, there's pictures on
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  here. And I had in the moments where I
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  was relearning my whole life and I knew that the only way that I
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  could kind of keep track of things were speaking into my
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  phone because both of my wrists were broken.
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  Only my left hand worked, but I was a right-hander.
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  There were so many layers of having to try to remember who I
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  was. And with that was me speaking
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  into my phone like to, to like core, like remembering to tell
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  the nurse I ate and then the nurse saying, but you didn't eat
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  today and that's why you have the feeding tube.
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  And I said, but I did, I had breakfast.
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  And she goes, that was yesterday.
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  And there were these moments where I had to keep again,
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  giving myself the patience to relearn and relearn and relearn.
• 24:23
  And that came with speaking into my phone.
• 24:25
  And that worked. And then one day I woke up again
• 24:30
  just from this kind of screaming voice, Finish your book, finish
• 24:35
  your book. And I was like, I remember
• 24:38
  shaking, shaking my head and waking up dream state or, or
• 24:41
  spiritually and being told that. And I'm like, but I can't even
• 24:45
  read yet. I don't even read again yet.
• 24:49
  And how am I supposed to write a book called one of my best
• 24:51
  friends? And she's like, well, there's
• 24:53
  something called the ghostwriter.
• 24:54
  And have you looked at your phone, Shannon?
• 24:56
  I'm like, no, she's like, there's like 300 notes in your
• 25:01
  phone day by day of your journey.
• 25:05
  And she didn't say it that way, but you know, she's like, it's
• 25:07
  documented in there. Why don't you take hold?
• 25:09
  On just. Speaking into my phone and so
• 25:14
  you know that the coming to the point where I realised I was
• 25:18
  going to be capable of at least expressing myself even though I
• 25:22
  couldn't do certain things that I used to run.
• 25:24
  I ran my own company previous to my accident.
• 25:27
  That's the other back end of all this is I was a very motivated
• 25:32
  and very successful interior designer on the level that a lot
• 25:36
  of people again, wouldn't understand.
• 25:39
  But I had my own company, I had employees, we had gone through
• 25:43
  even the COVID stuff where everything was, you know, had to
• 25:46
  be brought home and blah, blah, blah.
• 25:48
  But and I have a daughter, a single mom, you name it.
• 25:51
  I'm kind of a badass even before this all happened.
• 25:55
  And so when I woke up, I was kind of like, no, I don't know
• 25:59
  what a phone is, but I used to, you know, I used to run a
• 26:02
  company. And it was that again, Ying and
• 26:05
  Ying of trying to find myself again, but also giving myself
• 26:09
  the freedom to be new and to be a new me.
• 26:13
  And that's again, what sits here today is not there's the
• 26:16
  elements of Shannon, Michelle one, but I am now a different
• 26:21
  person and I love her. And she's self acceptance.
• 26:27
  Self acceptance. Yeah, daily self acceptance
• 26:30
  again, being present. You cannot love yourself without
• 26:33
  accepting yourself. Yeah, and also being kind to
• 26:36
  yourself, you know, that's a big part of being human and and
• 26:44
  being able to succeed in whichever way that you want to
• 26:47
  as again, as a mother, as a boss, as a, as a broken person.
• 26:55
  You know, I've been a lot of things and I have a lot to share
• 26:59
  about the trials and tribulations of what I've been
• 27:02
  through. And then this is what's on the
• 27:04
  back end. I'm grateful.
• 27:08
  Attitude is good attitude, but you know, talking about breaking
• 27:14
  through the pain, you, you definitely have been through a
• 27:18
  lot of pain and pain is not something that is.
• 27:23
  But I say interesting at all. But yeah, unfortunately life has
• 27:29
  its way of just, you know, bringing pains our way.
• 27:36
  And different people experience pain in different ways.
• 27:40
  That's just true. And you've actually spoken about
• 27:44
  the emotional wounds, the generational trauma, right?
• 27:48
  But what were some pivotal moments that pushed you to face
• 27:51
  your own healing journey 'cause it is when I say a conscious
• 27:56
  decision to get on that path, you know.
• 28:01
  I can tell you the main thing, the main word is to be
• 28:05
  vulnerable. I was such a badass before that.
• 28:08
  I thought vulnerability was fragile and I did not show it to
• 28:13
  myself very often. I did not know how to be cared
• 28:17
  for as well as I could care for others.
• 28:20
  And I, I think that was one of my biggest breakthroughs was
• 28:23
  that vulnerability is so empowering and to be broken in,
• 28:29
  you know, again, the physical ways, but also the mental ways
• 28:31
  and the spiritual ways. It's just, it breaks you open to
• 28:35
  build more. And the vulnerability part was
• 28:38
  something that I just, I couldn't, I couldn't deal with
• 28:42
  previously. And I understand why.
• 28:45
  And now I see so clearly, again, big picture, what it all can
• 28:50
  mean if you allow yourself to be fully everything, broken,
• 28:56
  vulnerable, loving, kind, committed, successful.
• 29:02
  We could do it. And there's so many layers to
• 29:04
  it. But to see all of that in
• 29:06
  yourself is so it's so important.
• 29:10
  Vulnerable question. Sometimes.
• 29:13
  I yes, yes, it does, you know, but you know, being vulnerable
• 29:17
  is such a very hard thing to do, especially if you're a person
• 29:22
  with an elevated ego. So it's a function of you versus
• 29:27
  your ego. How did you deal with that?
• 29:30
  I I would never let my ego play or win.
• 29:34
  I had to keep reminding myself that the brain, which is the ego
• 29:41
  which thinks it knows more than others and or can understand
• 29:45
  things better than others, that has to be shut down.
• 29:49
  You don't know more than others. You can't be more than others.
• 29:52
  You are who you are and that's huge.
• 29:55
  And that's where I found I would have to tell myself.
• 29:59
  And it was, let me restate that it was a little bit of the
• 30:03
  moments where I would try to, I would remember who I was and I
• 30:07
  was only trying to get back to where I was.
• 30:09
  And when I realised that I needed to give up on regaining
• 30:13
  what I had, but just being I am that alone again gave me power
• 30:20
  to reboot and reframe my brain and my body.
• 30:26
  There was a there was a huge moment that happened and it's in
• 30:31
  my book as well, But I didn't want it to originally be in
• 30:34
  there because I didn't think it was important.
• 30:35
  But my daughter was like, no, is I got breast cancer after all of
• 30:39
  that. And, and so I went through all
• 30:43
  of that mental and physical trauma from my body and the
• 30:47
  brokenness in my brain. And about a year and a half
• 30:50
  later, you know, they're doing the tests and they're like, and
• 30:53
  I was like, no, no, no, I was, I was like, I laughed when they
• 30:56
  told me that's because I've been through so much trauma.
• 31:00
  I thought cancer. And I had to learn that just
• 31:04
  because you've been through as much as you've been through it
• 31:07
  doesn't make you unbreakable. You still have to be in the
• 31:12
  realisation that you're not better than anything, you're not
• 31:16
  bigger or you haven't been through more than anything.
• 31:19
  And that moment was one of the largest shifts was like, I've
• 31:24
  got to stop worrying about fixing my brain, my body, and
• 31:27
  I've got to worry about cancer. Not then that took over and I
• 31:30
  was like hysterically crying and overwhelmed again that I would
• 31:35
  have to go through what this No. So again, it taught me though,
• 31:40
  because you think you've been through enough.
• 31:43
  And if you think you have, then you haven't.
• 31:46
  Keep understanding that your vulnerability and your existence
• 31:50
  is just staying present and and taking in the good and the bad
• 31:54
  and not not thinking that you've been through too much because
• 31:59
  you can think that too, you know?
• 32:02
  It's, it's a, it's a lot to take in.
• 32:04
  It just reminds me of something that we, we say back home,
• 32:06
  Nigeria, they say Walhalla. No, they finish.
• 32:10
  Do you know what Walhalla is? Walhalla is problems.
• 32:13
  OK. I said it's speech and English
• 32:15
  Walhalla. No, they finish.
• 32:17
  Meaning problems don't ever finish.
• 32:20
  Once you get to know one, life doesn't ever give you breaks.
• 32:26
  I mean, that's part of the ego too.
• 32:28
  And if you allow the ego to be in control of your existence,
• 32:32
  you think you've got control, then that's bullshit because we
• 32:37
  don't control anything. We exist, we do the best we can
• 32:41
  and then shit. And I don't sometimes cuss
• 32:44
  words. I hope you don't mind.
• 32:46
  Feel free, unfiltered. And I think I love the Nigerian
• 32:50
  spirit a lot. You know, I love the Nigerian
• 32:52
  spirit. Nigerians tell you no matter
• 32:55
  what you're going through in life, just try.
• 32:57
  Try to enjoy yourself first, try to eat and every I love every
• 33:01
  other thing is secondary. Yeah, it is that.
• 33:05
  Shout out to my Nigerian people. This all flag I.
• 33:09
  Love it. I love it.
• 33:11
  I wait. I I can't wait to have them in
• 33:14
  the Los Angeles for the Olympics.
• 33:16
  I'm telling you, when you see that flag, I treat my people
• 33:19
  nice. And of course, a shout out to
• 33:21
  the United States of America, American Independence Day today,
• 33:24
  July, for love and respect to that country, the land of the
• 33:29
  free and the home of the brave. And I very much love the
• 33:32
  American dream. You know, anybody can be
• 33:34
  anything as long as you put in the work.
• 33:37
  You know, it's aligned to my philosophy.
• 33:39
  Conceive, believe, strive to thrive and achieve.
• 33:46
  Think that's pretty much American dream.
• 33:48
  And of course, Speaking of America, America is a country
• 33:50
  that is actually beautiful. On the foundation of faith, I
• 33:53
  say in God we trust, right? Aha.
• 33:57
  So, Speaking of faith, how did your faith shape and evolve
• 34:02
  during these darkest moments? That's a great question.
• 34:08
  That is a great question. I think what I gained within my
• 34:16
  beliefs and my faith in my through my recovery is that we
• 34:21
  are, we are all one. There is a universal oneness
• 34:26
  that we need to recognise and share and know that what affects
• 34:35
  me effects you and what I gain, you gain.
• 34:39
  And to know that we, we, again, everything is connected in a
• 34:43
  way. And my faith is that to, to, to
• 34:47
  know that when I look at in the individual, no matter in what
• 34:53
  format it is because there's been so many over the last three
• 34:57
  years for me, I feel a connection to everything and
• 35:02
  everybody. And that is where my faith lies
• 35:08
  in supporting and helping as much as I can.
• 35:13
  Because the more I do that, the more I can get have to give.
• 35:17
  And I just want to give and give and give.
• 35:19
  And I have to remember to have faith in myself, to have faith
• 35:24
  in others. Faith in yourself and faith in
• 35:27
  others you know that essentially also includes giving people
• 35:33
  grace because you know there are people.
• 35:36
  That's my daughter's name, by the way.
• 35:39
  Whoa, what a coincidence. But not giving people your
• 35:46
  daughter anyways? No, no, no.
• 35:47
  No, I, I The word is. The word has a lot of value in
• 35:51
  all kinds of ways for me, but my daughter is.
• 35:54
  Is a top. Notch in my lives.
• 36:00
  She's a she's a explosion of grace.
• 36:04
  Wow, an explosion of grace. I think Gracie in is a Hebrew.
• 36:08
  Nice charisk. She is.
• 36:11
  She's a blend. She's a blend of all graduated
• 36:15
  from college. I'm very.
• 36:17
  Proud of her. That is Grace.
• 36:19
  I I am proud of her. I think I, I've seen something
• 36:21
  on social media was a yesterday or earlier today.
• 36:25
  There's there is a your sea fighter called Dustin Povier is
• 36:28
  retiring soon. I think ESPN asked him what's
• 36:34
  what's your advice to to younger fighters this generation And he
• 36:37
  said something, go to college. That's interesting, yeah.
• 36:43
  I always say this, education is important.
• 36:46
  Yeah, he did. He did.
• 36:47
  He did. He's educated.
• 36:49
  Education is the best legacy. Guys take education very
• 36:53
  seriously. If you're educated, you may not
• 36:57
  be very rich or you will never be very poor.
• 37:00
  So how about that? I be honest with you, I agree.
• 37:04
  Obviously, my daughter just graduated from college.
• 37:06
  It was a goal of her dad's in mind for her to have that
• 37:10
  achievement. I personally did not go to
• 37:13
  college. I built a business from the age
• 37:17
  of 22 with such faith in myself, in the chaos I come from that I
• 37:28
  just wanted to get out. I just wanted to be different.
• 37:30
  And I also didn't think I was very smart previously, You know,
• 37:35
  the, the, the numbers game, the AB CS, whatever.
• 37:38
  I personally didn't think I was very smart and I'm brilliant.
• 37:41
  But it's whatever ways that we find ourselves within.
• 37:46
  Again, our life is education sometimes comes from the home
• 37:51
  base of, you know, your parents and your environment.
• 37:55
  And sometimes it needs to be shown that the world is bigger
• 37:59
  than that. And college is a place that you
• 38:02
  can see all of that as well. And I just think that for people
• 38:05
  who can can grow from within and and learn and college is one of
• 38:13
  the routes that people can do that with.
• 38:15
  And some people it's, it's on fire for, for me, it made me
• 38:20
  feel stupid because I didn't think I did very well.
• 38:24
  So I, I bowed out like half, I was like into my first or second
• 38:28
  semester and I'm like, I, I was in college, but I was like, I
• 38:31
  thought I wasn't smart enough to do this.
• 38:33
  So just believe in yourself a little more than what the
• 38:36
  numbers tell you sometimes as well.
• 38:38
  All learn differently. So it's it's, it's, it's a
• 38:42
  balance. I think, yeah, it is a balance,
• 38:46
  right? And of course, you know, so some
• 38:48
  of the greatest, you know, companies, businesses in the
• 38:51
  world have actually abused by college dropouts.
• 38:54
  Your neck of the woods, you, you know, the stories, Steve Jobs,
• 38:57
  Bill Gates and I love those guys, even Mark Zuckerberg
• 39:01
  college dropouts. But these are smart kids.
• 39:04
  This are smart guys. So if you know a smart person,
• 39:07
  right, and you think you because you want to drop out of college,
• 39:11
  I will be successful. I wish you good luck.
• 39:13
  Yes, and again, we all, I guess that's the open door too, is
• 39:17
  know that you will find your way.
• 39:19
  And for each of us, it's different for and and big
• 39:22
  picture. Some of it's obvious like these
• 39:24
  are ABC's that work and get you certain places in a certain way.
• 39:30
  And and there's there's that has worked as well.
• 39:35
  And but just again, keep listening here.
• 39:41
  I think that that gets that'll tell you everything.
• 39:44
  Let your heart tell you that you're.
• 39:46
  I always say, you know, speaking from my heart is the best place
• 39:51
  to be. I I do from here, but sometimes
• 39:55
  this is a little more ego when I speak from here, It's not.
• 39:59
  It's just truth. A fine blend of logic and
• 40:04
  emotions is actually very, very good for optimising your
• 40:10
  decision making. But I guess you, you'd agree
• 40:13
  with me that there's a place of pushing yourself to, to extremes
• 40:20
  to your to, to extend beyond the limits that you previously
• 40:26
  thought, you know, of yourself. And I think that's one thing I
• 40:29
  appreciate about the educational system.
• 40:32
  I look at myself, for example, a lot of people see me today and
• 40:37
  see, oh, you are a chartered accountant.
• 40:39
  You have a first degree in economics, you have a master's
• 40:43
  in business administration. And they're like, oh, you're a
• 40:45
  numbers guy, You're good at numbers.
• 40:49
  But what they don't know is that I was very poor at numbers
• 40:55
  growing up. I'm an ADHD person, right?
• 40:58
  Or I had to discipline myself, push myself to the limits,
• 41:03
  right. And you know, sit down and say,
• 41:06
  OK, there are these numbers work in principles.
• 41:10
  If I apply myself, I can get to understand these things.
• 41:15
  Of course. Yeah, had a good degree, worked
• 41:19
  in the B core accounting firms, you know, cooking numbers for a
• 41:24
  living. But, and I even taught these
• 41:27
  things, you know, I, I taught some of the great accountants
• 41:33
  that we're seeing working in, you know, big institutions today
• 41:36
  from my country. But nobody knows that when you
• 41:40
  look back, I failed mathematics twice at what you call the O
• 41:47
  level. That is when you're done with
• 41:49
  secondary school or maybe high school, you guys call it.
• 41:53
  You have to write an exam before you get into university.
• 41:58
  I failed mathematics twice. They say the third time is a
• 42:03
  charm. Yeah, I got it right the third
• 42:05
  time. Well, and you?
• 42:07
  What does that tell you? Well, you had the just then, and
• 42:11
  you had the, Yeah, the resilience.
• 42:13
  Yeah, just found the inside. That.
• 42:16
  Yes, you can beat this. And I, I mean, I did that my
• 42:20
  whole life. I, I came from again, a very
• 42:23
  similar poor family moved all over like how many different
• 42:27
  places I lived in my childhood because we, we could only stay
• 42:30
  in a place for a year and then couldn't pay the rent and move
• 42:33
  on. Like layers and layers of chaos
• 42:36
  is what I grew up in as well. I mean, our chaos here in the
• 42:39
  States, different but similar, you know, but it was about, you
• 42:44
  know, being. Able It's a different level of
• 42:46
  chaos. It is it is a different level of
• 42:49
  chaos, but it is still chaos for the individual, especially the
• 42:53
  child within and the child within you.
• 42:55
  We, we go through these moments so that we can find our strength
• 42:59
  and our resilience and we can decide to take the next step and
• 43:03
  to again, that step into your miracle moment was like baby
• 43:08
  steps. That's the only way I can get
• 43:10
  back one step at a time. And I was able to do that a
• 43:13
  little bit every day, each day. And that's what I was able to
• 43:20
  come back. You know, a lot of people wear
• 43:24
  masks to cope. Most OK, I'll correct myself,
• 43:29
  But a lot of people let us just see, a lot of people that we
• 43:34
  know walk in the surface of the Earth are actually very, very
• 43:40
  fake. Especially in Los Angeles, we've
• 43:45
  got a lot of that here. I mean, we've got all of it, but
• 43:49
  we it's just on. It's on.
• 43:54
  Lost those steroids? Yes, very good.
• 43:57
  Yes. You know what helped you to
• 44:01
  start reclaiming your authentic self?
• 44:05
  Great question again. I think that moment again when I
• 44:09
  said that I had to stop comparing myself to the old me
• 44:16
  and just being OK with the new me is when I was able to see the
• 44:25
  broken person was going to be OK.
• 44:28
  This broken person was going to be different but was going to be
• 44:32
  able to not just survive but thrive again because I was a
• 44:37
  thriver. And I when I could see that
• 44:40
  within myself and I didn't question who I was anymore.
• 44:44
  And again, to get past the obvious things when I get up and
• 44:47
  look in the mirror every day, I would have to find comfort in my
• 44:51
  newness and and this, you know, again, the value of where I'm at
• 44:55
  now. It took a long time because I
• 44:58
  had to have so many posts. All of that, what I explained to
• 45:02
  you, post surgeries to fix things.
• 45:04
  It took a long time to find this person again.
• 45:07
  And I would just wake up again every morning.
• 45:12
  What's today? OK, this is who I am today.
• 45:16
  This is a new. Day.
• 45:19
  And and staying present is the only thing that helped me
• 45:22
  survive and and find myself again.
• 45:24
  Stay present, Shannon. Don't look at the past.
• 45:26
  Don't look at the future. Just here, just here and right
• 45:31
  now, that's all you get. Because tomorrow or yesterday
• 45:36
  isn't worth anything. It's only worth today to me.
• 45:40
  That value allowed me to come back.
• 45:43
  You know what I say, you are a work of art.
• 45:45
  Actually, when you look at heart, it's been pieced
• 45:48
  together, it is great to behold. And of course, the intrinsic
• 45:54
  value is greater than the extrinsic value.
• 46:00
  You know, I tell people when you peek, you know, a piece of
• 46:03
  currency, let me see the currency in my country, this is
• 46:07
  a £20 note, right? And of course I take this £20
• 46:11
  note, I drop it on the ground, I step in it.
• 46:14
  Even if I decide to maybe twist it and maybe turn a bit, what is
• 46:19
  it? It is still a £20 note.
• 46:22
  It doesn't change the value to a £5 note, £20 will always be
• 46:31
  greater than 5 LB so no matter what happens you know on the
• 46:38
  external. The trists and turns.
• 46:40
  It doesn't. The core is the core, right?
• 46:44
  The core is the core. Yeah, you are somebody that has
• 46:49
  been able to exemplify that little illustration, that
• 46:56
  narrative I just gave. And love and respect to you.
• 46:59
  Love and respect to you. You're.
• 47:01
  Filling my heart with joy right now.
• 47:02
  You are. You're welcome.
• 47:08
  I mean it. You know, I'm, I'm just
• 47:10
  privileged to, to, to be able to do that.
• 47:12
  And of course I'm grateful for, for that privilege.
• 47:14
  You know, I always say that I'm just really grateful and
• 47:19
  overwhelmed with gratitude being able to connect with the
• 47:24
  greatest of minds, you know, across the world in my time
• 47:30
  while I'm alive. People really don't get this
• 47:35
  right. The value that technology has
• 47:39
  given us to be able to connect with the most brilliant minds
• 47:44
  across the world. And for me not just to Only
• 47:48
  Connect with them to also project these voices like speaks
• 47:55
  philosopher and of course a lady in your end of the woods.
• 47:59
  You know, she conferred upon me the title.
• 48:01
  She said you are a modern day business philosopher.
• 48:05
  And I've taken it. I'm and I'm running with it, you
• 48:07
  know, a modern day business philosopher.
• 48:09
  That's you know who I am, That's what I am and that is what I'm
• 48:14
  operating as. You know, I love that.
• 48:16
  I remember, thank you. I remember growing up, you know,
• 48:20
  beating the ancient philosophers.
• 48:23
  And I remember as a young child I used to think, well, how wish
• 48:27
  I could have, you know, a conversation with some of these
• 48:31
  bright minds. And now growing up and
• 48:36
  technology is affording me the opportunity to connect with
• 48:41
  these bright minds, you know, gross.
• 48:43
  Back in the day, you would need to take a long trip, you know,
• 48:46
  just to go speak with a person like yourself.
• 48:49
  And I'm able to just do it connect and via the, the
• 48:53
  Internet, It's amazing. It's it's quite wild and I think
• 48:57
  a lot of people don't appreciate it.
• 48:59
  I brilliant and I agree and I it goes back to even when I was
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  talking about my recovery, the idea that I had a good quality
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  phone next to me allowed me to relearn and reconnect with who I
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  was. And again, that's technology.
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  My book came out of technology. Me speaking into it is how I was
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  able to show myself. And this moment is exactly it.
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  It's it's mind blowing in a way like we can't believe, but it's
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  all it's all. Absolutely.
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  You always talk about the old you and the new you.
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  And of course, at some point you said you're not broken, you're
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  buried. Better.
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  Buried, that is, you probably had the old you buried and that
• 49:47
  is why you're able to move on with the new you.
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  So can you speak briefly to that?
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  And it was, it was knowing that or really learning that we are
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  so important with who we are in this moment.
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  And when I let go of the Shannon Michelle one, as we were talking
• 50:21
  about, it was like, and I still hold on to it.
• 50:24
  I still have moments where I'm like, I do something.
• 50:27
  I'm like, that's, that's the old me I got.
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  I can't, I got to pull back on that a little bit.
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  I can't be a non giver like I, I that probably isn't there, but I
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  had to, I've had to learn. I still, it's not like it goes
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  away, but I had to teach myself to not be or not put so much
• 50:47
  importance on who I was and put more importance on who I am.
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  And again, I was a very empowering successful.
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  I can see why I wanted to get back to where I was.
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  I mean, I was top level on everything, few few mistakes,
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  but top level and I kept wanting to get back to something that I
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  was and that that wasn't possible.
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  And I had to give myself the freedom to create a better new
• 51:15
  me. And so when I do say that the
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  Shannon Michelle one versus the Shannon Michelle two, it's like
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  I have to tell myself that not on a daily basis anymore, but
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  for a while it was on a moment to moment basis.
• 51:27
  And now it is even when I'm trying to regain something, it's
• 51:32
  just knowing that I'm regaining it for this present me, not for
• 51:36
  the old me and not for that broken me because that one was
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  very broken in its own way as well, emotionally, physically,
• 51:44
  trauma as a child, blah, blah, blah.
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  And I, and I again, I, it's, it's much better, I would say,
• 51:51
  if you can let go of the past and let go of the mistakes and
• 51:57
  let go of the trauma so that you can wake up each morning and try
• 52:03
  it again and do something new and explore more.
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  But if you're trying to hold on to the past that much, it
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  doesn't give you the energy and the time to stay focused on the
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  now. And the now is the learning, the
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  giving, the expressing. Does that make sense?
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  Absolutely. You know if you need to embrace
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  your your reality in order to leave a life that is free of
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  worries, right? It is what it is.
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  The new reality is a new reality.
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  But people and not just even people, even entire nations love
• 52:44
  to bask on, you know, the old glory and the former selves.
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  But the greatest form of deceit is self deceit and the greatest
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  form of delusion is self delusion.
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  You know you need to you need to adjust to current realities and
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  make the best, make the best out of life.
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  And you know the person who said when life gives you lemons, make
• 53:11
  lemonades. The person is not mad.
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  You know, person knew what they were saying, you just try to
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  make the best out of, you know, whatever life gives you.
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  And of course, you know, Speaking of making the best out
• 53:23
  of what life has given to you, you are doing that.
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  You are an example of that. You know, you're a speaker,
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  you're an author, you influence people, you inspire people.
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  But behind, you know, all of the great work that you're doing out
• 53:38
  there. Sometimes irrational fears that
• 53:41
  you confront, you know, especially with stepping into
• 53:44
  the spotlight as a person. Absolutely, absolutely.
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  I have I have no idea the new impact that's going to embrace
• 53:56
  me because it's going to be and has been overwhelming and
• 54:02
  difficult. And some days I wake up and I'm
• 54:06
  I'm like really what huh. And then some days I'm not.
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  And each of these moments again, that allow me to share voice,
• 54:20
  give me the power to give. And that's, that's all I want to
• 54:27
  do. And even when I was getting
• 54:29
  ready this morning and I was like, oh, da da, da, da da.
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  And I, I still have these moments where it's like, how is
• 54:35
  that going to feel? What am I going to say?
• 54:37
  What am I going to remember? I go through all of that because
• 54:41
  I don't know. And then I have to keep saying,
• 54:43
  Shannon, you're, you're super fucking smart.
• 54:45
  Just be present. It's not like you have to
• 54:48
  remember. You don't have to remember what
• 54:50
  happened yesterday. You don't have to remember what
• 54:52
  happened three years ago. What whatever the mess is, you
• 54:54
  don't have to remember it to be OK.
• 54:56
  You don't have to be a part of it to be the person you are.
• 55:00
  And again with brain trauma, trying to brain injury, you
• 55:03
  know, when it slices everything away, it's kind of, it's the
• 55:07
  most difficult thing I can imagine.
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  But it was kind of a gift as well to find myself again, the
• 55:13
  full me. So I'm ready for all of it.
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  And it's it's going to be overwhelming and it's going to
• 55:23
  be empowering and I don't know, but I don't really care if I
• 55:30
  know. Of warm and empowering, right?
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  And Speaking of empowering, I would love for you to empower
• 55:40
  the audience. So for anybody out there who has
• 55:47
  actually experienced some sort of deep loss, trauma, betrayal,
• 55:52
  you know, life changing events, what's your word for them?
• 55:58
  What you were, you know, I would out there that's vulnerable.
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  I would, I mean, the thing that I can share today is what guided
• 56:10
  me was kindness and self acceptance.
• 56:13
  And again, not not believing that you are are these other
• 56:22
  people not believing you? Are these other things just
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  remembering that you, you are who you are and that's all that
• 56:29
  matters. When you have trauma happen to
• 56:31
  you, just keep going back into your heart and your soul and
• 56:36
  remembering who you are. Even though you feel like you're
• 56:40
  in a bit of a chaos or you're in the darkest, deepest moments
• 56:46
  that you can feel, that's OK too.
• 56:50
  That's growth. Feel it, be it, and then let it
• 56:54
  go. It's OK to let it go.
• 56:56
  Like feel dark and deep because you will.
• 56:59
  And I have, and I've had to learn how to get through that
• 57:03
  day and then sometimes just go to bed and wake up the next day
• 57:06
  and see how that day felt. And doing that where you're just
• 57:10
  trying to achieve the best that you are today.
• 57:13
  And that's it. That's to me how anybody can get
• 57:17
  through whatever they're going through.
• 57:19
  Believing in yourself, understanding that you've got
• 57:22
  the strength. Believe in yourself.
• 57:27
  I know my philosophy. Conceive belief and achieve.
• 57:32
  You know, it's, it's really important to believe.
• 57:35
  It's the fundamental of everything that would do to
• 57:41
  succeed as human beings. You cannot succeed if you don't
• 57:44
  believe in yourself first. Absolutely.
• 57:47
  That's you. Have to believe in yourself.
• 57:50
  Treasure though, that is the treasure.
• 57:51
  You are the treasure. I am the treasure.
• 57:54
  That person that's listening to us is the treasure.
• 57:57
  Remember, you are the treasure within your life.
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  Let it shine. Let it shine, I love that one.
• 58:06
  And of course, Speaking of let it shine, I am going to make you
• 58:11
  shine with five quick fire ground questions as we end this
• 58:15
  wonderful session. So Are you ready to rumble?
• 58:20
  Yes, always. Number one.
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  Number one. What's 1 daily habit that keeps
• 58:26
  you grounded? In the morning.
• 58:28
  One of my friends is gonna like you.
• 58:30
  Her name on Instagram is Smell the Coffee.
• 58:34
  And of course she has been on this podcast before.
• 58:36
  Shout out to Maria Abuaki. I wake up every morning and I
• 58:40
  just breathe, and then I get up and I make myself a cup of
• 58:44
  coffee. Oh wow, smell the coffee.
• 58:47
  Yeah #2 favourite quotes or scripture that keeps you going?
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  Stay present. It's my own everyday.
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  Stay present. Stay present.
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  Stay. Do you?
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  Want to know my favourite scripture?
• 59:04
  Yes. I can do all things through
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  Christ that strengthens me. Philippines, chapter 4, verse
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  13. Nice, thank.
• 59:13
  You for sharing that. Yeah, you're welcome #3 A book
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  that changed your life. This is those moments that I get
• 59:21
  a little sad and overwhelmed because there are some books
• 59:24
  that speak to me and sometimes are on my night stand and I've
• 59:28
  been a part of my process and I can't remember the name of them
• 59:35
  because I know. I know because.
• 59:38
  Because you stay in the present, I guess the best book would be
• 59:42
  Stay in the Present. Yeah, I know that.
• 59:44
  I also, it's it's like so many things do speak to me, but the
• 59:48
  fact that I can't remember each and everything I have had to
• 59:51
  learn, it's OK not to have remembered.
• 59:53
  And that is part of my recovery. And so you say that and I
• 59:58
  literally want to go run and pull.
• 59:59
  I've like, I can turn around. I've got.
• 1:00:02
  A bookshelf full of stuff and on my night stand and like I'm a
• 1:00:05
  book person and obviously I've now I'm author, an author and I
• 1:00:08
  have to be kind to myself that I'm literally visually seeing a
• 1:00:11
  book that I can't remember the name of.
• 1:00:13
  And that's okay. You you can drop it into a
• 1:00:16
  comment section. You can drop it.
• 1:00:20
  You see, very nice to technology.
• 1:00:23
  We can always find a way. But, and I'm going to say.
• 1:00:25
  That I could bring this because I wanted to show it.
• 1:00:28
  It's my book. And the reason, the other reason
• 1:00:31
  why is because my daughter drew the cover.
• 1:00:34
  Wow. Wow, that gives it more
• 1:00:38
  intrinsic and artistic value now.
• 1:00:41
  And also my neurologist quoted and he's on the cover.
• 1:00:45
  My neurologist, my brain dude. And I mean like.
• 1:00:48
  Guys, guys, go and buy that book right away.
• 1:00:51
  If you don't buy it, please don't follow my channel.
• 1:00:53
  Yeah. This is what the art, the artist
• 1:00:56
  and my daughter, and she isn't and she doesn't consider herself
• 1:00:58
  an artist. And when I asked her, I'm like,
• 1:01:00
  I understand if you don't want to, but yeah, she drew my cover.
• 1:01:04
  Man, see, that is beautiful. That is very, very beautiful.
• 1:01:11
  Looking at the story behind it makes it even more touching.
• 1:01:19
  Wow. But I still think you should
• 1:01:20
  write a book titled Stay in the Present.
• 1:01:23
  What do? You think you just froze for a
• 1:01:25
  second, so you're gonna have to say that again.
• 1:01:27
  OK, I said. I still think that you should
• 1:01:30
  write a book titled Stay in the Present because it's a very
• 1:01:35
  strong message so. I agree with that and I think
• 1:01:39
  it's empowered me and I should share that in a bigger way.
• 1:01:42
  Thank you. That's great.
• 1:01:44
  You know, what I wanted to do next is I wanted to write a kids
• 1:01:47
  book version of my book because I felt like there were like
• 1:01:50
  these moments and they're so simplified because I was like a
• 1:01:54
  child when I was speaking through most of it as I was
• 1:01:57
  relearning everything. And I'm like, it would be so
• 1:01:59
  great to have a children's book that kind of had these these go
• 1:02:03
  TOS. And it's colourful.
• 1:02:07
  Yeah. So that's a good one.
• 1:02:09
  We can work on that together. Don't worry, I'll send you the
• 1:02:13
  invoice. Let me see.
• 1:02:17
  I think #4 is one thing most people get wrong about healing.
• 1:02:23
  That's. A So if you could whisper one
• 1:02:27
  truth to every woman in the world, what would it be?
• 1:02:32
  See yourself clearly. See yourself clearly.
• 1:02:37
  You're beautiful. I'm telling to you.
• 1:02:39
  I'm telling to you. Everybody's beautiful in their
• 1:02:42
  own way, you know? And they say beauty is in the
• 1:02:45
  eye of the beholder, you know? Yeah.
• 1:02:49
  You have to see yourself as beautiful.
• 1:02:50
  I. See myself as beautiful again.
• 1:02:53
  So yes, eye patch and all. And I love my eye patch.
• 1:02:58
  And I had to get creative with it.
• 1:02:59
  They're my new shoes. Ha ha ha ha.
• 1:03:04
  Whoa. Yeah, like sometimes when you
• 1:03:08
  have a new identity, it's it takes time to to buy into it.
• 1:03:15
  I remember I used to have longer hair before, but then when I
• 1:03:19
  called each other I was like, wow, sis me is the same person.
• 1:03:22
  But now I can't even imagine myself with longer hair any
• 1:03:24
  longer. Yeah.
• 1:03:26
  Of course, yeah, new identity. And of course, on the identity,
• 1:03:31
  very, very important. Oh, and of course, you know,
• 1:03:34
  we've actually come to the end of the show today.
• 1:03:37
  A very big thank you to you, Shannon.
• 1:03:39
  Michelle, there's some policy, gratitude is good attitude.
• 1:03:43
  And when a person shares their time with you, they share their
• 1:03:45
  life with you. And of course, we are now
• 1:03:48
  forever intertwined and connected by way of today's
• 1:03:52
  episode. So from me to you, it's love and
• 1:03:56
  respect. A lot of gratitude to you.
• 1:04:00
  I take in all the love and I, I give out and, and share all of
• 1:04:05
  my love with you because it's been an amazing moment and an
• 1:04:08
  amazing morning and. You're welcome.
• 1:04:13
  And of course, to, to our audience, guys don't don't they
• 1:04:18
  want, I know at this they want to take some of the love that
• 1:04:20
  you just shared with me before, before I could share the love
• 1:04:25
  with you guys and share the podcast with your network.
• 1:04:30
  And of course, I will share a little bit of love with you.
• 1:04:35
  Yes. Yes, I have so thank you very
• 1:04:37
  much guys. I love you guys very much love
• 1:04:40
  from me to you guys, love and respect to you guys.
• 1:04:42
  I always wish you something in your life.
• 1:04:45
  Always believe in yourselves, you know, conceive beliefs, try
• 1:04:48
  to thrive and achieve. There is no limit to what you
• 1:04:51
  can achieve into your life. And of course, I hope today's
• 1:04:54
  episode has been able to educate and inspire you guys.
• 1:04:58
  Your feedback is very important. If you're touched, if you're
• 1:05:01
  blessed, please, you know, drop a feedback for us on the
• 1:05:05
  comments section. And of course, guys look into
• 1:05:08
  the into the show notes. There's a lot of Nuggets in the
• 1:05:11
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  I'm going to be angry if you guys do not buy Shannon's book.
• 1:05:35
  Shannon. Shannon is going to take back a
• 1:05:37
  love if you guys don't buy her book.
• 1:05:39
  I'm giving all my love and my kisses.
• 1:05:43
  Oh, shout out, Eddie. Eddie, do you want to give a
• 1:05:45
  shout out to anybody? And of course, you know last
• 1:05:47
  words to the audience. I I'm, I'm fulfilled with each
• 1:05:52
  moment of each day, and I hope all of you are as well and.
• 1:05:58
  From me, I have a shout out to give, a very, very big shout out
• 1:06:02
  to grace my God, artist, the artist that doesn't believe
• 1:06:08
  she's an artist. Big shout out to you, grace you,
• 1:06:14
  you are very, very graceful as your name implies.
• 1:06:18
  You know, you know, I, I tell people this in life, anytime you
• 1:06:24
  win, stay grateful. And even when you don't stay
• 1:06:28
  graceful, so you'll always stay grateful and graceful.
• 1:06:33
  And of course, for me, it says goodbye.
• 1:06:35
  And from Shannon Michelle, well, so I come your way soon.
• 1:06:41
  Please keep doing the Lord's work.
• 1:06:43
  See you soon guys.