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Jags Drive Time: Thursday, September 26 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. Touchdown Jactabell nine
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Speaker 1: touchdown pass from the cord Rock Jackuars Did Jack Jaguars?
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Speaker 1: Did you go? Jaguars Drive Time? Ryan Sex steps there,
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Speaker 1: John Oh, Jack Ashley, Jaguarris Drive Time starts right now.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome into Jaguars Drive Time Thursday Morning, brought
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Speaker 1: you by Fields Auto Group. It's funny. Brian Knight said
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Speaker 1: right out of the gate that this would be a
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Speaker 1: non Jalen Ramsey centric show, and boy were we wrong.
0:41
Speaker 1: We should have known better, because this statement was released
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Speaker 1: by head coach dugmar Own yesterday afternoon, saying Jalen Ramsey
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Speaker 1: is expecting the birth of his second child and will
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Speaker 1: be returning to Nashville to be with his family. Returned
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Speaker 1: date TVD, but flew after team meetings to Nashville to
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Speaker 1: be with his family for the birth of his new daughter.
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Speaker 1: Very reasonable. Um, it shows in a sense, just how
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Speaker 1: far we've come in this league. Back in David Williams,
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Speaker 1: former Florida Gator, Great Right missed a game because of
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Speaker 1: the birth of a child, and the former Houston Oiler
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Speaker 1: Turn New York Jet was fined a hundred eleven thousand
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Speaker 1: dollars by Bud Adams and the oilers, and it was
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Speaker 1: called baby Gate. At the time, it was a big deal.
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Speaker 1: You know, should the NFL hold a player out or
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Speaker 1: let him go be with his family? And here we
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Speaker 1: are was that twenties six years later? Now it's just
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Speaker 1: absolutely go and do it. Um interesting, I totally agree
1:34
Speaker 1: by the way, he should be with his family. Get
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Speaker 1: two big things so that we can tell people the
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Speaker 1: real story here. Yes, sorry, big Thing one is not
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Speaker 1: say but actually yes it is. Today the news on
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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey will get much more into that with Ashton's analysis,
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Speaker 1: but returning to Nashville to be with the birth of
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Speaker 1: his new daughter, Big Thing too is must watch Wednesday.
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Speaker 1: It's become almost a national treasure. We're excited to see
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Speaker 1: Gardner mint choose press conferences in years. Why so the
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Speaker 1: attempt at broken hand, um, it was like, I mean,
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Speaker 1: that was really the only way for me to get
2:07
Speaker 1: a get a red shirt, you know at the time,
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Speaker 1: just to get a medical Um. So I had the
2:12
Speaker 1: bright idea to try to break my hand. Um, but
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Speaker 1: it didn't work, you know, I guess fortunately, I mean
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Speaker 1: I was looking back, it's pretty dumb um. Believe it
2:21
Speaker 1: or not, breaking your hand is pretty dumb um. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: that was, you know, but that's that's just I always
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Speaker 1: tell people, you know, what would you do to play
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Speaker 1: more ball? And that's m damn or anything. Always entertaining.
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Speaker 1: And Big Thing three is desperate team. The Broncos are
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Speaker 1: o and three for the first time since head coach
2:41
Speaker 1: Dug Baron says they don't look like a winless team.
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Speaker 1: You guys seeing dangerous? Hell? Yeah, yeah, I mean they're
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Speaker 1: they are. I mean, you're talking about arguably probably the
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Speaker 1: two most dangerous guys you're gonna see on the edge,
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Speaker 1: you know, uh, from any of the teams in the league.
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Speaker 1: You know, ton of respect for hims. So Brad, we
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Speaker 1: gotta go all the way back to Big Thing one.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna dress that much more later on the show,
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Speaker 1: but let's laid out for people, right. So after the show,
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Speaker 1: you and I go sit out of the plause out
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Speaker 1: there at one of the nice little solar tables and
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Speaker 1: we kick around ideas for what the show is going
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Speaker 1: to be. And my first comment to you was, no, Jalen,
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Speaker 1: let's let it go right. I mean, it's as we've
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Speaker 1: said on the show. It's up to him when he's
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Speaker 1: going to be ready to come back and play. The
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Speaker 1: Jaguars have said, we're not trading you, or at least
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Speaker 1: Mr Khan has said, I'm not inclined to trade him.
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Speaker 1: So let's let's let's let this thing die for a day,
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Speaker 1: because what more can you say? We just keep saying
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Speaker 1: over and over and over. Right, And so I was
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Speaker 1: really looking forward to a Jalen less day. Um, and
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Speaker 1: then at seven fifteen last night, here comes the news.
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Speaker 1: And look, you and I both knew and and I'm
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Speaker 1: assuming that the Mark Longs of the world, right, the
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Speaker 1: AP writer and Philip Heilman from The Athletic, John Reid
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Speaker 1: from The Times Union, Mike de Rocco from ESPN, that
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Speaker 1: we all knew that Jalen's girlfriend was pregnant. That was
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Speaker 1: it wasn't a secret. It's just not something that you
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Speaker 1: need to report on, right, It's not everyone's business. We
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Speaker 1: just understood. So this isn't a surprise, or it shouldn't
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Speaker 1: be to anyone that he's going to fly back and
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Speaker 1: spend time. If there's a coincidence, if there's irony, it's
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Speaker 1: that it just happened this week but this is not
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Speaker 1: I mean that it's completely reasonable. This is the way
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Speaker 1: it is. David Williams is a bygone era. No one
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Speaker 1: questions this anymore at all. Yeah, and Jalen can't control
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Speaker 1: the timing of this obviously, No. No, I mean unless
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Speaker 1: unless we find out that the baby is born in
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Speaker 1: three weeks, then it may have been premature. But again
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Speaker 1: that's none of our business. Each his own. Yeah, he understands,
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Speaker 1: you know, where his family is at at this point.
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Speaker 1: He's making the right decision for himself, and the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: are saying, go and take care of it. It just
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Speaker 1: so happens that in a sense, it's the building, not
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Speaker 1: not the outside world, not the Twitter sphere for sure,
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Speaker 1: but it's giving the building a chance to take a
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Speaker 1: deep breath and not have the Jalen issue, you know,
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Speaker 1: right in the middle of everything right now. Yeah, because
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Speaker 1: if we have to assume where we have no idea
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Speaker 1: when he's coming back but probably not playing on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: You have no idea when the baby's if she's in
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Speaker 1: labor or anything. But it does give you kind of
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Speaker 1: a break of the distraction, as we like to call it.
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Speaker 1: Jalen's never missed a game, And even though yesterday there
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Speaker 1: was the hamstring in the back, I still thought he
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Speaker 1: might play. You know, I didn't know where the girlfriend
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Speaker 1: and the baby and all of that kind of worked
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Speaker 1: into it. But I still in the back of my
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Speaker 1: mind thought, this guy loves football. He is a top competitor.
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Speaker 1: He's gonna want to play when the time comes to play. Now,
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Speaker 1: obviously that seems all but impossible that, you know, missing
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Speaker 1: practice and not even being here, that he's just gonna
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Speaker 1: get on a plane and fly to Denver and suit
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Speaker 1: up on Sunday. Right. Um, Stranger things have happened, But
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Speaker 1: I would imagine that is not the kise. That would
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Speaker 1: be just the tip to this week if that happens. Yeah, unfortunate.
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Speaker 1: In the twenty four plus, I mean used to when
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Speaker 1: when Fox and CNN, right before the twitter sphere got
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Speaker 1: heavy in the early two thousands, twenty years ago, Um,
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Speaker 1: we started talking about a twenty four hour news cycle
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Speaker 1: because you just had twenty four hour cable news going
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Speaker 1: all the time. Gosh. I mean, now it's magnified by
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Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter and there's probably another social media platform
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Speaker 1: I've never even heard of. It's just constant, constant, constant, constant,
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Speaker 1: So are they really getting a break from all this? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: not really, because they're young people and they're on their
6:28
Speaker 1: mobile devices and they're following along too. But for a
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Speaker 1: brief a few hours yesterday, we thought we're just gonna
6:35
Speaker 1: deal with the Jaguars and the Broncos. Uh No, we're not.
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Speaker 1: We're not until this whole thing is resolved. And I
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Speaker 1: think it's It's different because when Jalen had in Bril
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Speaker 1: and his girlfriend had their first baby, Brie, it was
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Speaker 1: very publicized on their part. It was all over Instagram
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Speaker 1: the pregnancy and everyone was so happy for them. This
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Speaker 1: they've kept very quiet for their own reasons, for sure.
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Speaker 1: So a lot of people are surprised at all. This
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Speaker 1: just kind of sprung about. But the Jaguars have known
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Speaker 1: about this for quite some time. Absolutely, Again, we all
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Speaker 1: found out in the spring. I forget how it was
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Speaker 1: even brought up some of us, but it's again, this
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Speaker 1: is no surprise. We've known about this. They've known about this,
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Speaker 1: no big deal. Yeah, but some people it's like, whoa
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Speaker 1: do they just did Jalen just tell them about Well,
7:17
Speaker 1: because people are used to again, I'll go back, they're
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Speaker 1: used to turning on their phone and and thinking they
7:21
Speaker 1: know everything. And Jalen is one of those guys who's
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Speaker 1: used his Instagram and his um, his Twitter to share
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Speaker 1: details whether it's his workout or you know, being a
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Speaker 1: dad or travel or whatever it is. And so people
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Speaker 1: think they know um. And then when you pull back
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Speaker 1: on that, people are surprised by that. So I gotta
7:38
Speaker 1: go to the minshew thing um again. I'll go back,
7:41
Speaker 1: you know, pre Twitter spear days, right, and I talked
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Speaker 1: about David Williams before David Williams back when I was
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Speaker 1: college senior, um that we didn't have the Internet and
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Speaker 1: all of this stuff going. And Mike Dicker was the
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Speaker 1: coach of the Chicago Bears, flamboyant personality that he was.
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Speaker 1: I can remember the entire newsroom at Casey TV, the
8:02
Speaker 1: CBS affiliate in Kansas City, crowding into one of the
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Speaker 1: edit bays when Mike Ditka's press conference was fed down
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Speaker 1: the satellite service, right back when it wasn't just here
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Speaker 1: there everything at your fingertips, and people they waited to
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Speaker 1: hear what crazy things Mike Ditka would say after a
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Speaker 1: Bears game. I felt the same way yesterday's people crowded
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Speaker 1: into our area over here to watch Gardner Minshew, and
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I think for a little while it
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Speaker 1: was that way with Jalen Um, but it didn't last
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Speaker 1: very long because Jaitalen got sullen and quiet and didn't
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Speaker 1: talk as much. Minshoe is it must watch Wednesday. And
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Speaker 1: when he steps up and says anything to play more ball? Oh,
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a great nugget. I used it
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Speaker 1: an inside a minute. It was all over social media.
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Speaker 1: You know, we used it this morning. It he's the guy.
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Speaker 1: You just don't know what he's gonna say. And I
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Speaker 1: was reading the stories from the Denver Post this morning
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Speaker 1: and they're all talking about how they said, Hey, what
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Speaker 1: are your memories of playing in bold or last year
9:00
Speaker 1: and beating the Buffalo seven? I remember, we should have
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Speaker 1: beaten the worse. I mean, it's just things that the
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Speaker 1: scripted answers that were so used to hearing. And that's
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Speaker 1: great for the locker room. I understand that. But he
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Speaker 1: does not have that, and I don't think he ever
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Speaker 1: will know the scripted Taylor cookie cuttery answers. That the
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Speaker 1: more I watched him, the more I listened to him,
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Speaker 1: the more I learned about him, the more I think
9:23
Speaker 1: the drag Wars have found a guy that they can
9:27
Speaker 1: I get with foals here and all that dead money
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Speaker 1: and the plan that they had. Who knows how they
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Speaker 1: use him. Um, but he's a gem, an absolute gem.
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Speaker 1: In the sixth round, there's a story and it's again
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Speaker 1: it's it's it's out, it's Twitter and CBS Sports. Did
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Speaker 1: I hate giving a credit? Yeah, the spear um, but
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Speaker 1: it's a CBS Sports story of Minshew first person told
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Speaker 1: when he was getting ready before the draft down in Boca.
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Speaker 1: And you've seen it, and a lot of you may
9:58
Speaker 1: have seen it. If not, go look for it. It's
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Speaker 1: really it will give you even more appreciation for who
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Speaker 1: the guy is. Yeah, it's fun, just very true, honest,
10:06
Speaker 1: before he even knew where he was getting draft or anything,
10:08
Speaker 1: just the process of working towards it was it was
10:10
Speaker 1: cool to see he might be the perfect combination right
10:12
Speaker 1: now of both sizzle and steak. And I was talking
10:16
Speaker 1: to Chris Connelly in the locker rooms today. He says,
10:17
Speaker 1: you hope he stays like that forever, And he said
10:20
Speaker 1: a lot of guys have been encouraging him stay off
10:22
Speaker 1: social media, turn off your phone. Don't believe in the
10:25
Speaker 1: hype anybody who will stand in a jockstrap and let
10:28
Speaker 1: people take pictures of them postgame from Washington State. Um,
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to change. Yeah, it doesn't
10:35
Speaker 1: seem to be a j boy is the locker next
10:38
Speaker 1: to him, and he was telling me yesterday. I walked
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Speaker 1: up and we're talking and he says, you know what
10:42
Speaker 1: gardners um postgame? You know, routine, routine is. I said, oh, yeah,
10:47
Speaker 1: I've heard. I thought we were going the drop strapping.
10:49
Speaker 1: I don't want to go there, like I've heard. Yeah.
10:51
Speaker 1: He goes, no, no, no. He actually sits pregame and
10:54
Speaker 1: postgame and watches Netflix shows to calm himself down. Like really,
10:58
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, he just sat there for an hour
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Speaker 1: before the game and watched and watched Netflix, any particular show.
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Speaker 1: He said. He changes it up weekly. And I was
11:06
Speaker 1: not expecting that at all, the opposite of what I
11:09
Speaker 1: was thinking or where we're going with that conversation. I
11:11
Speaker 1: truly appreciate the freethinker mentality. All right, when we come back,
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Speaker 1: our good friend Ryal Hallering, who used to be here
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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville is now with the Denver Post writing for
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Speaker 1: we welcome in. Ryan O'Halleran beat writer for the Broncos
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Speaker 1: for the Denver Post. Ryan, how's it going, good, Good morning,
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Speaker 1: Good to join you guys. Hey, Ry, Before we get
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Speaker 1: started with the Broncos, you, um, you and Jalen were tight,
13:26
Speaker 1: or at least you had moments where you sparred in
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Speaker 1: the locker room. I can remember a moment in Tallahassee
13:32
Speaker 1: when we were out there, uh for a workout. Uh.
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Speaker 1: You're just your perspective from you know, two thousand miles
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Speaker 1: away and five thousand feet in the air of the
13:44
Speaker 1: whole jail in story coming out of Jacksonville right now, Well,
13:48
Speaker 1: you know the drama part of it, and it is
13:50
Speaker 1: a drama. Is not surprising because throughout his career has
13:52
Speaker 1: always been something And I guess from a football perspective,
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Speaker 1: I had this. I think from the Ramsey have they
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Speaker 1: misplayed it in terms of I think the player made
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Speaker 1: an emotional request and the agent listened to him instead
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Speaker 1: of saying, hey, maybe cooled down for a couple of days,
14:08
Speaker 1: let me talk to management, see what's going on. Um,
14:12
Speaker 1: you know you can make a trade, de man, but
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Speaker 1: they don't have to trade. Yes, that's where we're at
14:17
Speaker 1: right now. You know, I don't know if it's a stalemate.
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Speaker 1: I don't think anything has to give right now, but
14:21
Speaker 1: you know the law. If they lose this week and
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Speaker 1: then lose next week, you know, maybe the pressure, maybe
14:26
Speaker 1: the pressure will be turned on then they can move.
14:29
Speaker 1: I just think it's interesting, and you know they have
14:32
Speaker 1: no leverage because the Jaguars control his rights with the
14:35
Speaker 1: franchise tag, you know through and I'm with you, I
14:39
Speaker 1: think they misplayed it. It looks like a typical business
14:42
Speaker 1: type standoff and Jalen's gonna lose that when he's sitting
14:46
Speaker 1: across the table from shot Khan. Although you know the
14:49
Speaker 1: thought is is that shod is negotiable on this and reasonable.
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Speaker 1: So you know, we'll see where it goes. But I'm
14:57
Speaker 1: sure you've been asked about it endlessly since he first
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Speaker 1: made it more than a week ago. Yeah. I have
15:03
Speaker 1: a lot, and I've given you know, some different opinions
15:06
Speaker 1: as more news has come out. But I think a
15:08
Speaker 1: key part was last Thursday with this podcast where he
15:12
Speaker 1: basically acknowledges that his problem is with the management. Okay,
15:16
Speaker 1: that sort of gives Doug Maron a little bit of
15:18
Speaker 1: leeway here and say, hey, I gotta run my team.
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Speaker 1: I have to run him in the fifty three other
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Speaker 1: and fifty two other guys. I'll let management and him
15:25
Speaker 1: spar off to the side. Well, I know you well
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Speaker 1: enough to know that you have a strong opinion having
15:30
Speaker 1: covered this league as long as you have. What does
15:33
Speaker 1: Ryan o'hllerin say should happen, Well, I would let it
15:37
Speaker 1: play out. I mean, let's say that Jaguars do go
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Speaker 1: to do go to Denver and went on Sunday. Okay,
15:42
Speaker 1: you're tuned too in a division that is average, so
15:46
Speaker 1: you're right in the mix. Um, you know, so the
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Speaker 1: trade deadliness October twenty nine, if his behavior gets to
15:53
Speaker 1: a point where it's it's you have very little option
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Speaker 1: to move them, then do that before the trade dead on.
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Speaker 1: As the DeLine gets close to the chems, maybe will
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Speaker 1: in the part with more in terms of picks or
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Speaker 1: even a player. So but if I had a lay
16:06
Speaker 1: five bucks on the table right now, I would say
16:08
Speaker 1: he's a jar for the rest of the year. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm with you on that one. I don't see this moving.
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Speaker 1: And somebody suggested to me. I did a radio show
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Speaker 1: and someone suggested to me that the cost would go
16:19
Speaker 1: down as we got closer to the deadlines. That will
16:21
Speaker 1: hold on. Now they don't have to trade him. That
16:24
Speaker 1: that's what people are missing here. He's not going to
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Speaker 1: be a free agent next year. It's not like the
16:28
Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney thing where the Texans came out essentially empty
16:32
Speaker 1: handed with only a third round pick for one of
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Speaker 1: the better defensive linemen in the league. It isn't that situation.
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Speaker 1: They've got the ability to move it on. But let's
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Speaker 1: move on. And I have to ask you, and I'm
16:41
Speaker 1: not sure if people around the league, at least in Jacksonville,
16:44
Speaker 1: understand that the Broncos have one of the great fan
16:47
Speaker 1: bases in professional football. So you tell me, you know
16:51
Speaker 1: what is Orange Nation saying about the O M three
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Speaker 1: start because they're used to a much higher standard out there. Yeah,
16:58
Speaker 1: and they are, and this is not great. This is
17:01
Speaker 1: the first time in twenty years or oh and three
17:04
Speaker 1: that was the year after John Elway retired, and over
17:07
Speaker 1: the last four or five days since the Green Bay loss,
17:09
Speaker 1: that's who most of the criticism has been pointed at.
17:12
Speaker 1: You know, John is now the GM, and you know
17:15
Speaker 1: I get emails every day from Bronco fans just saying
17:21
Speaker 1: I like John Elways the player, I don't like him
17:23
Speaker 1: as the GM. They gotta make a change. Well, there's
17:26
Speaker 1: one problem. There's no owner, and so the all the
17:29
Speaker 1: is anybody in the building who's gonna fire John Elway.
17:32
Speaker 1: But today, this week is a key game. Um, I
17:35
Speaker 1: think the j Wuars have more better players. But if
17:38
Speaker 1: the Broncos losing dropped the Owen four going to the
17:40
Speaker 1: Chargers next week, then maybe the Broncos should look at
17:43
Speaker 1: their roster and say, Okay, what kind of value do
17:46
Speaker 1: Chris Harris and Emmanuel Sanders have on expiring contracts? So
17:49
Speaker 1: the Broncos can maybe kick start a little bit of
17:51
Speaker 1: a rebuild here, because that's what they need to do.
17:54
Speaker 1: The defense has yet to get a sack this season,
17:57
Speaker 1: and that's very unlike them. And we were talking in
17:59
Speaker 1: locker room and they say they couldn't believe it. The
18:01
Speaker 1: lock of the Jaguars locker room. What is it about
18:03
Speaker 1: that defense and what needs to change this week? Well,
18:06
Speaker 1: in those facts and no takeaways, which it could beginning
18:09
Speaker 1: the season, they're gonna They're probably thinking, Hey, we're gonna
18:12
Speaker 1: be able to stop people while the offense finds its way.
18:15
Speaker 1: We haven't been able to do that. A couple of
18:17
Speaker 1: factors into their pass rush. Von Miller, Bradley Chup. Obviously,
18:20
Speaker 1: you lead players, but you got to get a lead,
18:23
Speaker 1: gotta force teams to pass, you have to stop the run,
18:25
Speaker 1: you have to get in the third and long. Broncos
18:27
Speaker 1: are doing none of those things. They've led for eleven
18:30
Speaker 1: minutes combined in three games. So teams have been able
18:33
Speaker 1: to be balanced, being able to run it on third
18:36
Speaker 1: and short, keep the drives going. So I think that one.
18:39
Speaker 1: It's also falls on the offense been terrible in the
18:41
Speaker 1: first half this year. If they can find a way
18:43
Speaker 1: to get a lead, get the crowd in the game,
18:45
Speaker 1: maybe that pass rush can finally get going. What is
18:48
Speaker 1: it about the offense that they can hang their hat on?
18:51
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it Philip Lindsay alone, Well, him and
18:55
Speaker 1: Royce Freeman, the two second year running backs are producing.
19:00
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to say they're doing one
19:02
Speaker 1: thing good, they do keep possession. Uh. They added for
19:04
Speaker 1: over thirty five minutes in Green Bay. The other day.
19:07
Speaker 1: They only scored two offensive touchdowns against Chicago. They were
19:11
Speaker 1: in seventy six plays and had twenty seven first times.
19:14
Speaker 1: They only scored one touchdown. So they're very methodical because
19:17
Speaker 1: they're not making a lot of big plays. But I
19:19
Speaker 1: think if you had the point, the one thing coming
19:21
Speaker 1: out of the Green Bay game is that, hey, they
19:23
Speaker 1: did put Lindsay and Freeman both tailbacks. They they put
19:26
Speaker 1: them on the field together for several staffs to try
19:28
Speaker 1: and create different look and I would expect that to continue.
19:32
Speaker 1: So if you had the name two guys, I would
19:33
Speaker 1: go with those two. So back to the beginning here,
19:36
Speaker 1: and that's John Elway. You mentioned that if they were
19:40
Speaker 1: to lose against Jacksonville, and they obviously they have to
19:42
Speaker 1: go to Los Angeles and take on a Chargers team
19:45
Speaker 1: that is good, even if the record doesn't suggest it.
19:48
Speaker 1: Who in the building gets to decide, with the lack
19:51
Speaker 1: of Pad Boland in the ownership situation being in flux,
19:54
Speaker 1: who gets to decide if the Broncos pull the plug
19:56
Speaker 1: and start the rebuild. They always leaves that charge show all.
19:59
Speaker 1: This is president CEO. I think if there's a situation
20:02
Speaker 1: where a team calls you about von Miller, that's where
20:05
Speaker 1: everybody gets involved because he is such an organizational face. Uh.
20:10
Speaker 1: I think that would make perfect sense at this point.
20:13
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure what Bond's value is because of
20:15
Speaker 1: his contract, in his age, his lack of production so far.
20:17
Speaker 1: So you know John will lead that charge. But then
20:20
Speaker 1: the next big decision is going to be at mid season.
20:22
Speaker 1: Drew Lock, the rookie quarterback, is on I R right
20:25
Speaker 1: now with a risk injury. He's eligible to play in
20:27
Speaker 1: Week nine. If this team is you know, two and six,
20:31
Speaker 1: one in five, do you try and find what law
20:34
Speaker 1: can do so you say, okay, he's our guy in
20:38
Speaker 1: or we're gonna dip our toe back into the quarterback
20:40
Speaker 1: pool in the draft. More rookie quarterbacks could imagine that. Well,
20:44
Speaker 1: they're having success so you love in life in Denver.
20:46
Speaker 1: You're enjoying it. Yeah, it's it's it's a different meaning.
20:49
Speaker 1: I like having seasons, so it's it's nice having a
20:53
Speaker 1: fall and some winter and a manageable summer. But uh,
20:57
Speaker 1: you know, uh, Jacksonville is a great experience for me,
20:59
Speaker 1: but personally professionally, so it's gonna be good to see
21:02
Speaker 1: a lot of people on Sunday. Yeah, we're looking forward
21:04
Speaker 1: to it. Ry, thanks so much for your time this morning.
21:06
Speaker 1: All right, take care it on. Thanks thanks. Alleran who
21:09
Speaker 1: is Um, he's salty writer, you know what I mean.
21:12
Speaker 1: He's been around to kind of like it for young
21:14
Speaker 1: he's he's he's he's significantly younger than I am. Oh,
21:19
Speaker 1: he's salty and I and he's like the old school
21:22
Speaker 1: writer that that has kind of gone away. Um. So
21:25
Speaker 1: it's fun. And the people in Denver don't realize, you know,
21:28
Speaker 1: what they've got out there covering the team. Absolute for them.
21:30
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Speaker 1: Poster child man, Um, Yeah, what a few weeks for him.
23:40
Speaker 1: It has been great. And the one thing I keep
23:42
Speaker 1: thinking is when is he going to show his rookie side?
23:45
Speaker 1: I mean they all do at some point. Um. I
23:49
Speaker 1: hope it's not the next couple of weeks because there's
23:50
Speaker 1: an opportunity with the way the schedule rules out. Uh.
23:53
Speaker 1: It's tough to go in in Denver, but the jag
23:56
Speaker 1: Wards have done it two of the last three times
23:58
Speaker 1: they've played out there. Of course O seven and O eight.
24:01
Speaker 1: It's been a while, Um, but they can win there,
24:03
Speaker 1: and they can beat this particular team. I think that
24:07
Speaker 1: they can go and win in Carolina. It's tough, but
24:11
Speaker 1: they can do it. There's an opportunity of Benshoo continues
24:13
Speaker 1: to play well and with the way that this defense
24:15
Speaker 1: is playing, for them to be able to take advantage
24:17
Speaker 1: of the circumstances the way they're laying out right now.
24:20
Speaker 1: You wouldn't been able to say that the day that
24:22
Speaker 1: Nick Foles got hurt. Rookie quarterback, you know, you got
24:24
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, you got Cam Newton, Oh my goodness, how
24:27
Speaker 1: are you gonna do this? And then all of a
24:29
Speaker 1: sudden things seems not guaranteed just you know, I mean,
24:34
Speaker 1: look what Kyle Allen did last week in Arizona. However,
24:38
Speaker 1: with this defense, it could be a different outcome. So
24:41
Speaker 1: we'll see. Uh. I'm trying not to wait for the
24:45
Speaker 1: other shoe to drop with the rookie moment. Man, he's
24:47
Speaker 1: fun to watch, even more fun to listen to them.
24:50
Speaker 1: I was talking to Chris Connolly in the locker room
24:52
Speaker 1: and he was telling me and he was getting tired
24:54
Speaker 1: of people every week asking him the question about the
24:56
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback and when he's he gonna show his rookie
24:57
Speaker 1: Sie said, it's time for us to stop him. He's
25:00
Speaker 1: given us no reason to doubt him. We need to
25:02
Speaker 1: stop calling him the rookie quarterback because he's much more
25:04
Speaker 1: than that. Right now, he was sticking up from he
25:06
Speaker 1: was tired of the rookie question. Well, but here's rookie
25:09
Speaker 1: in the sense that it's the first time you see Um,
25:14
Speaker 1: it'll be the first time he sees a lot of
25:16
Speaker 1: things on defense, and it's different than it is in
25:19
Speaker 1: college football. And that means the guys like um, the
25:24
Speaker 1: guy the defensive coaches that we're seeing, you know, fangier
25:26
Speaker 1: that we're seeing this week. Um, they can throw a
25:28
Speaker 1: lot of different wrinkles that you They're gonna make him
25:30
Speaker 1: play different ways. They're gonna take away routes that he likes.
25:33
Speaker 1: That slant guaranteed, they try to take that one away
25:36
Speaker 1: this week and make him drop the ball against the sidelines.
25:39
Speaker 1: That's a tougher throw for him. He doesn't have the
25:41
Speaker 1: biggest arm. Now he's shown more zip than we saw
25:43
Speaker 1: in the preseason and a lot of accuracy. They're gonna
25:46
Speaker 1: make him make all of those throws. That's how he
25:49
Speaker 1: beats them. Um. But the rookie thing is simply, Hey,
25:52
Speaker 1: it's the first time you know seeing this and seeing that,
25:54
Speaker 1: and seeing defensive ends that move like linebackers in college.
25:58
Speaker 1: So you know, as you play and game the EXPERI
26:00
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden everything becomes easier for you.
26:02
Speaker 1: Maybe he won't ever show that rookie moment, hope not. Yeah,
26:05
Speaker 1: you talked about the sideline throws. You look at the
26:07
Speaker 1: chart touchdown throw from last Thursday and then the D
26:10
Speaker 1: D Westbrook sideline throw. Those were but I'm talking about
26:13
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the fifteen yard out now. I mean,
26:15
Speaker 1: I'm talking about that's how and with zip. You have
26:18
Speaker 1: to deliver it with zip. We'll see whether he can
26:20
Speaker 1: do it or not. They're going to make him try.
26:23
Speaker 1: They will take away what he likes to do. You
26:24
Speaker 1: have to just ignore it. Joe is going to have fun.
26:26
Speaker 1: I know he gets mad when I hit my microphone
26:28
Speaker 1: all the time. I just like making him mad, you
26:32
Speaker 1: know I don't. All right, let's go around the locker room.
26:35
Speaker 1: It's been a pleasant locker room this week, fun music,
26:38
Speaker 1: going dancing. DJ Chark wants to keep the moment going.
26:43
Speaker 1: Oh you know you can come in and uh, you
26:45
Speaker 1: don't have to play the slow tunes on the I Pad.
26:48
Speaker 1: You know you play some upbeat songs, but you know,
26:51
Speaker 1: be excited going to uh we cool with the win
26:56
Speaker 1: DJ chart the past few weeks has been a great
26:58
Speaker 1: guy to talk to. When I talked to Mark Kisley,
27:00
Speaker 1: he said, I'm still getting on d J Chark about
27:02
Speaker 1: the importance of special teams. Now that he's a big
27:04
Speaker 1: time and doing all these great things the receiver, he
27:07
Speaker 1: can't forget about specialty. No, and the Jaguars need him
27:10
Speaker 1: because with his speed and his length. I mean, not
27:13
Speaker 1: only is he six ft four, but he's got the
27:15
Speaker 1: long arms to go with it. He can defeat blocks
27:19
Speaker 1: and make tackles and strip the ball and do things
27:22
Speaker 1: they need that. Now, as he climbs into a number
27:24
Speaker 1: one role, he won't be playing special teams like he does,
27:27
Speaker 1: but right now they still need him. Yeah, And he said,
27:29
Speaker 1: Joe d will never let me forget the importance of
27:32
Speaker 1: special teams. If Judy never lets anyone yeah forgetting he
27:34
Speaker 1: can go four years without playing special teams. I'm surprised
27:37
Speaker 1: he's not breaking through this wall like the kool Aid
27:39
Speaker 1: man right now. All right, so we've heard Dune Rowan
27:42
Speaker 1: say that this Denver team does not look like their own.
27:44
Speaker 1: Three locker room has the same feeling, including unique and
27:46
Speaker 1: Dockway a team like that, you know, I'm feeling up
27:54
Speaker 1: in there, Abody. You know I was in that position,
27:56
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of years ago, being on the team.
27:58
Speaker 1: We're not such a good record, So I fled. They're
28:00
Speaker 1: trying to find their identity right now and they'll come
28:02
Speaker 1: out and do anything. We really trying to try to
28:04
Speaker 1: win a game. I asked a few guys about the
28:07
Speaker 1: feelings about the game, and no one really said I'm
28:10
Speaker 1: really confident. Everyone had a kind of an uneasy feeling
28:12
Speaker 1: because they knew they were going to get the Denver's
28:14
Speaker 1: Bronco's best shot. Well, you're getting a desperate team, is
28:16
Speaker 1: rhino Halloran mentioned, as John likes to say, and desperate
28:19
Speaker 1: teams playing at home with their back against the wall. Um,
28:22
Speaker 1: you know, take all the cliches aside. There's plenty of
28:25
Speaker 1: talent there. And if you're not entirely focused and see
28:28
Speaker 1: that's what players know. They can sit and watch the
28:30
Speaker 1: tape and see where a matchup fits them. They're not
28:32
Speaker 1: going to say that in the locker room, oh hey,
28:34
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this, and that they can see where
28:37
Speaker 1: they can have an advantage based on personnel and matchups.
28:40
Speaker 1: But they also understand that fifty three men on a roster, Um,
28:44
Speaker 1: they've got to be good to be there, right when
28:46
Speaker 1: you have some guys at the bottom of the roster
28:48
Speaker 1: that can be replaced. But for the most part, there
28:50
Speaker 1: are guys on the Broncos roster that are capable of
28:52
Speaker 1: making plays and making these guys look silly. And they
28:55
Speaker 1: know that. So. Um. One of the things that experience
28:58
Speaker 1: teaches you, right is never be surprised at the outcome
29:03
Speaker 1: of an NFL game because anything can happen. Anything can happen.
29:06
Speaker 1: All right, Finally we know Minshu mania is everywhere. It
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Speaker 1: is in the SLocker room, and it is upon Brandon
29:11
Speaker 1: Winder of all people. It's it's crazy. Um, the kids
29:20
Speaker 1: got something to him, you know, like I can't put
29:22
Speaker 1: my finger on it, um, but but the kids got
29:25
Speaker 1: something to him. Um. I'm excited for him. Nothing's too
29:28
Speaker 1: big for him. The stage isn't too big for him.
29:31
Speaker 1: So Minshum mania gone, Baby, it wouldn't be great at
29:39
Speaker 1: the offensive line all grew mustaches. They should. I mean
29:42
Speaker 1: they've got him now with the whole beard, that shave,
29:44
Speaker 1: that go with the look. Get off the get on board. Yeah,
29:47
Speaker 1: get off the airplane with the headbands on, right? Why not?
29:51
Speaker 1: I never know what, Lenda you're gonna get in locker
29:53
Speaker 1: room and that that threw me through a loop. Uche
29:56
Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting that one. Now it's interesting too the
29:59
Speaker 1: way that to speak of Brandon Lindar for just a moment,
30:02
Speaker 1: he and Blake Bordles were best of friends. They were
30:04
Speaker 1: together all the time, and Blake goes and one of
30:07
Speaker 1: the first people and it's the center. I get that, um,
30:11
Speaker 1: But Nick Fools is talking in the spring about Linda
30:14
Speaker 1: and how Linda has been helpful and what a great
30:16
Speaker 1: guy he is and how he keeps things on target.
30:18
Speaker 1: Now he is with min show. You like to see
30:21
Speaker 1: your center be that guy to grab any quarterback, they
30:24
Speaker 1: have to do it as pros, but to enjoy them
30:25
Speaker 1: and to become friendly with them. That's it's good for
30:28
Speaker 1: Linda absolutely. All right. When we come back, we're gonna
30:30
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Speaker 1: Wrapping up this Drivetime show someone we haven't talked much about.
32:27
Speaker 1: You know Ramsey? You know him? I was wondering. Yeah,
32:30
Speaker 1: he's kind of like been in the news lately this
32:32
Speaker 1: week once or twice, so the news has kind of
32:36
Speaker 1: become in him. Yes. So here is Ashland's analysis for
32:39
Speaker 1: this week, and it is we should not put this
32:42
Speaker 1: childhood birth of the daughter into the drama that is
32:46
Speaker 1: the sweet And here's why Gane for Nett, I hate
32:49
Speaker 1: to blast you like this on Drive Time last He's
32:52
Speaker 1: used to it. He tweets out about the fiasco that
32:55
Speaker 1: is Jalen Ramsay and questioning is Jalen's girlfriend Brilon actually
32:59
Speaker 1: in labor or is this just an excuse to get
33:01
Speaker 1: away from the team. Tony Cohn, of all people, tweets
33:04
Speaker 1: back at him. That is an appalling tweet. Gene, this
33:07
Speaker 1: is way out of line. You have no business questioning
33:09
Speaker 1: someone's family. And that is the moral of this, is
33:11
Speaker 1: that this should not be grouped into what we've been
33:14
Speaker 1: seeing the past few days. He's having a baby, his
33:17
Speaker 1: second child, a daughter. We can't question the timing, we
33:20
Speaker 1: can't question how many days he's supposed to be there.
33:23
Speaker 1: This is an excuse to get out of the Jalen
33:25
Speaker 1: drama and this should not be questioned. So I'm with
33:27
Speaker 1: you on this. Um Monday, when Jalen called in said
33:32
Speaker 1: all of us were in the right to question that
33:35
Speaker 1: because of the circumstances around it. Then we found out
33:38
Speaker 1: later in the day that he had visited with the
33:40
Speaker 1: doctor he was legitimately sick. Okay. Um. Then yesterday the
33:44
Speaker 1: story comes with the back in the hamstrings. Again, Jalen's
33:46
Speaker 1: had some tightness in the hamstrings and back before. This
33:49
Speaker 1: is not new and I think maybe he even had
33:51
Speaker 1: it last week. But still now it's two days in
33:55
Speaker 1: a row, and the timing and the coincidence, Okay, the
33:59
Speaker 1: family thing comes along. You just gotta draw the line.
34:01
Speaker 1: That's nobody's business whatsoever. M Jean's columnists though, and that's
34:06
Speaker 1: what they do. They take swings and they do um
34:11
Speaker 1: and so you know, I don't expect him to back off. UM.
34:15
Speaker 1: That's you know, that's the media's job to question things,
34:19
Speaker 1: and I do I would have done it, especially not
34:22
Speaker 1: in this you know Twitter world that exists today, because
34:26
Speaker 1: you're gonna get hammered for it. But that's what columnists do.
34:29
Speaker 1: So I would say the family will be left out
34:32
Speaker 1: of it from now on. Yeah, And we haven't really.
34:34
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say we stuck up for Jalen on most
34:37
Speaker 1: of this, but for this, I feel like we have
34:39
Speaker 1: to because I go back to I didn't off the
34:41
Speaker 1: field with him back in training camp. I think it
34:44
Speaker 1: was the third week of training camp and we were
34:46
Speaker 1: talking about Brian being pregnant and I said, you know,
34:49
Speaker 1: do you want to talk about in the interview? Said no,
34:50
Speaker 1: for this one, I really wanted to just be my family.
34:53
Speaker 1: I don't want anyone to know. I want to keep
34:54
Speaker 1: it in the loop between us. And I thought that
34:57
Speaker 1: was totally different because for the first um, daughter Bree
35:01
Speaker 1: was all over Instagram, it was all over Twitter. They
35:02
Speaker 1: were so excited, but I think they took a step
35:04
Speaker 1: back and wanted to really keep this tighten it so
35:07
Speaker 1: people to question that. It's like, don't go there. Yeah,
35:10
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. Um. You know, having studied journalism,
35:16
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35:21
Speaker 1: public criticism, and so they kind of have to deal
35:24
Speaker 1: with that. And I wonder, because I don't know Jalen
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Speaker 1: and I have not had this conversation, I wonder if
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Speaker 1: him pulling back part of it is just not wanting
35:31
Speaker 1: the scrutiny on his family. He'll take it for himself,
35:35
Speaker 1: but not on his family. Yeah. You see that a
35:37
Speaker 1: lot with athletes public figures, So don't go near the family.
35:40
Speaker 1: Tony doesn't like it. And I understand why Tony would
35:42
Speaker 1: want to stand up for one of the players and
35:44
Speaker 1: applaud Tony for immediately coming back and standing up. Um,
35:49
Speaker 1: but the story that Jean wrote, you know, the tweet
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Speaker 1: that he put out, that's what Collins do. Yeah, that's
35:55
Speaker 1: what the media is forced to question things, and even
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Speaker 1: though it's just football and family, it is what it is.
36:02
Speaker 1: I have sense Jalen has been able to turn the
36:04
Speaker 1: noise off in Nashville, you'd hope. So you'd hope he's
36:07
Speaker 1: not on Twitter right now. Now. We were going to
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Speaker 1: do something today and I'm greatly disappointed alogize that we're
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Speaker 1: not doing it. So I just have to throw this in.
36:15
Speaker 1: This is just this is just superfluous, right, but it's
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Speaker 1: something that I want you to consider. Okay. So I
36:21
Speaker 1: don't think Gardner Minshew will have any trouble with the
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Speaker 1: Broncos or the Thin Mountain Air despite being from Mississippi
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Speaker 1: and playing in Jacksonville. Do you want to hear more?
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Speaker 1: The one year Washington State wonderful. I didn't like calling
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Speaker 1: him a one year wonder so I added full there.
36:37
Speaker 1: So he's the one year Washington State wonderful. Because if
36:40
Speaker 1: you saw any of the social media, yes I'm on it,
36:42
Speaker 1: uh last week from Pullman, Washington. The lines were sensational,
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Speaker 1: the reaction to him. Did you see the the cougar
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Speaker 1: mascot with the mustache? Right? Okay? Um? He had an
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Speaker 1: average altitude of victory in his year at Washington State
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Speaker 1: New stat average altitude of three of over twenty feet.
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Speaker 1: You want to hear more? Okay? So the Cougars played
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Speaker 1: and fifty two feet in Pullman. And they won games
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Speaker 1: last year in Laramie, Wyoming, which is the highest altitude
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Speaker 1: in college football at over seven thousand feet, and they
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Speaker 1: won Boulder, which sits at feet And when you add
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Speaker 1: it all up, there are eleven wins were played at
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Speaker 1: an average elevation of seven ft. Right Where am I
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Speaker 1: going with this? Okay? Ready? This is simple math. This
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Speaker 1: is simple. The Jaguars, by the way, in case you're wondering,
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Speaker 1: play there. Sixteen are their home games at sixteen ft.
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Speaker 1: We're at sixteen feet right now. We're going to fifty
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Speaker 1: one thirty on Sunday. Ready, okay? And for instance, they
37:38
Speaker 1: play in Nashville, which is five ft, in Indianapolis, which
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Speaker 1: is seven fift ft, and Houston, which sits at eight ft.
37:44
Speaker 1: You still follow me, okay, So the average elevation for
37:47
Speaker 1: a Jaguars game this year is five seventy ft. Okay.
37:52
Speaker 1: Doesn't seem like seven feet, which was his average altitude
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Speaker 1: of victory in college, is going to be a problem. Right,
38:00
Speaker 1: That makes it all figured out? I do, Yeah, what
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Speaker 1: does it all mean? It means I had too much
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Speaker 1: time on my head. That was a lot of numbers.
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Speaker 1: Average altitude victory last year for him seven feet. I
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Speaker 1: don't think the altitude is going to be a problem
38:13
Speaker 1: at least for government show well. And one of the
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Speaker 1: things um the Jaggers learned over the years of going
38:17
Speaker 1: out there is if you go out and you're only
38:19
Speaker 1: on the ground for twenty four hours, you're less. It
38:22
Speaker 1: minimizes the impact of the altitude. Not that you don't
38:25
Speaker 1: feel some of it, but it is not like your
38:29
Speaker 1: ex asphyxiating yourself with the thin air. You can do
38:33
Speaker 1: it if you go twenty four hours or less. Doug
38:35
Speaker 1: Moron told us the story in the press conference when
38:37
Speaker 1: he was with the Dolphins with Don School and they
38:39
Speaker 1: would get off the plane and make them run. Yeah,
38:41
Speaker 1: telling Marcel Darius in the lockerroom, you know that's that's
38:43
Speaker 1: what coach did. Are you okay? If he asked, he said,
38:46
Speaker 1: I'm not running off the plane. I'll get the oxygen
38:49
Speaker 1: mask on the sidelines. That everybody finds their own way
38:54
Speaker 1: to deal with the altitude, like don't don't sign me
38:57
Speaker 1: up for the run. It's like, I'm with you, Marcel.
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Speaker 1: I'll stand on the side with you. Are you and
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Speaker 1: John Tomorrow? You and John and the coach? Yeah, what
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Speaker 1: a group you guys would be great coffee with the coach,
39:07
Speaker 1: Doug moro own Me and John Osier. If that doesn't
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Speaker 1: make him make you want to watch, I don't know
39:11
Speaker 1: what will. I'll watch all right, Jaguars Happy Are and
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Speaker 1: Doug Marrown Show later on today, right here on the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Digital Network. We'll see you tomorrow morning.