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- 0:32Speaker 1: football in South Jersey ninety seven to three ESPN. So
- 0:36Speaker 1: how about the Eagles preseason game and their opponent is
- 0:43Speaker 1: the Ravens. You know some similarities. Here is Adam Kaplan
- 0:48Speaker 1: joined duscas Adam. The Eagles are team with new coaches
- 0:52Speaker 1: and new schemes going into the preseason.
- 0:55Speaker 2: How you doing today, Adam, Josh.
- 0:57Speaker 3: Welcome to the first football weekend. How about that? Huh?
- 1:00Speaker 3: How about the first season weekend in the National Football League?
- 1:04Speaker 3: So we're looking forward to this, Yes, So the Eagles
- 1:06Speaker 3: will play at Baltimore and the Eagles and Ravens have
- 1:11Speaker 3: two first time play callers and offense they've got. The
- 1:15Speaker 3: Ravens have Declan Doyle, the youngest offensive quorder in the
- 1:18Speaker 3: National FOOTBA League, along with David Blou who I saw
- 1:21Speaker 3: earlier this week with the Commanders. They're both going to
- 1:25Speaker 3: run a West Coast offense. Declan Doyle brings in West
- 1:28Speaker 3: Coast terminology. Now he's his background is with Sean Payton
- 1:33Speaker 3: and then he spent one year with Ben Johnson as
- 1:37Speaker 3: Ben Johnson's non play calling offensive coordinated with the Bears
- 1:40Speaker 3: last season, so he's a young play caller. They've jumped.
- 1:43Speaker 3: This is the crazy thing. For the first time nearly
- 1:45Speaker 3: twenty years, the Ravens will not carry a fullback. They
- 1:50Speaker 3: are going to be They're gonna run actually more eleven
- 1:52Speaker 3: personnel they've probably ever run. With Zay Flowers. They've got
- 1:56Speaker 3: his big contract. Tess Walker, h third year player out
- 2:01Speaker 3: of North Carolina. Rashat Bateman. You all injured, but talent.
- 2:04Speaker 3: Rashat Babman Jacobe Lane. By the way, if you're into
- 2:07Speaker 3: fantasy football, this is a guy you want. Dynasty leagues.
- 2:10Speaker 3: Kids got a great camp. Tall kidd out of us
- 2:13Speaker 3: See who I watched early this week in Ravens camp,
- 2:16Speaker 3: and he's going to play a lot. So when they
- 2:18Speaker 3: play the Eagles, you're going to see a lot of
- 2:20Speaker 3: Tess Walker. You get a lot to see a lot
- 2:22Speaker 3: of You're going to see a lot of Jacobe Lane
- 2:24Speaker 3: and Elijah Sarat, a fourth front receiver out of IU.
- 2:28Speaker 3: So you just go to see a lot of these guys.
- 2:31Speaker 3: And you know Vic Fangio will be having a lot
- 2:34Speaker 3: of his backups as we know on the field, but
- 2:36Speaker 3: you're going to see a lot of these young receivers
- 2:37Speaker 3: with Baltimore.
- 2:39Speaker 1: Now, you mentioned about how the Eagle is going to
- 2:41Speaker 1: have some backup, so you just mentioned no fullback. Is
- 2:46Speaker 1: there something particular you do want to see when there
- 2:49Speaker 1: is more eleven personnel from the Ravens on the field
- 2:52Speaker 1: versus the Eagles.
- 2:54Speaker 3: Yeah, now that when they do that, Josh, here's what
- 2:57Speaker 3: we're going to see. Mac McWilliams, who's coming on in
- 3:00Speaker 3: the last week and a half of camp. He now
- 3:02Speaker 3: is their fourth corner over at Tokran Bennett. You're going
- 3:05Speaker 3: to see a lot of him, Ambry Thomas, Sean Wade, Dree,
- 3:09Speaker 3: Castro Fields, whoever's healthy out of that group is going
- 3:12Speaker 3: to play, and they're going to play a lot because
- 3:14Speaker 3: the Eagles are going to keep probably five corners. They
- 3:17Speaker 3: won't keep six, but they'll keep five. Mac Mickwilliams when
- 3:20Speaker 3: they go to nickel may play inside, he may play nickel.
- 3:23Speaker 3: Jakrane Bennet is really a corner, not a nickel. And
- 3:26Speaker 3: Ambry Thomas is a guy who for a couple of
- 3:28Speaker 3: years started for the forty nine orso. Too many injuries,
- 3:31Speaker 3: but he's yet yet another X forty nine or one
- 3:34Speaker 3: of these guys could push for that number five job.
- 3:37Speaker 3: But the big one to me, Josh is Jakaran Bennett,
- 3:40Speaker 3: who they acquired last year in that trade for Thomas
- 3:42Speaker 3: Booker the d tackle, and Bennett is just not He's
- 3:46Speaker 3: not performed like last year. You know, they made the
- 3:48Speaker 3: trade late, he didn't get the scheme. He's got a
- 3:50Speaker 3: full off season, no more excuses, and that's a guy.
- 3:53Speaker 3: Tomorrow night at seven point thirty, I'm looking forward to
- 3:56Speaker 3: seeing if Corring Bennett could start taking charge of a
- 3:59Speaker 3: role for this team.
- 4:00Speaker 2: Absolutely, no more excuses.
- 4:02Speaker 1: It's time to put up or shut up for Bennett
- 4:04Speaker 1: with the Eagles, let's flip to the other side. The
- 4:07Speaker 1: Ravens also have a new scheme because jesse Mincher, the
- 4:10Speaker 1: former Chargers former Michigan University of Michigan DC.
- 4:14Speaker 2: He is now the head coach in Baltimore.
- 4:17Speaker 3: Yeah, Mitcher is going to run a thirty four point.
- 4:19Speaker 3: He's brilliant. He's with not a ton of talent with
- 4:22Speaker 3: the Chargers. They had a great defense. Eagles did face
- 4:26Speaker 3: them last year in Los Angeles if you remember so. Yeah,
- 4:30Speaker 3: they want of Nate Wiggins, not that they would play
- 4:32Speaker 3: their starters, but Nate Wiggins got hurt. I was there,
- 4:36Speaker 3: got hurt against Jakobe Lane, and thankfully the injury is
- 4:39Speaker 3: not super serious. But what you're going to see there
- 4:42Speaker 3: is Zion Young, their second round edge rusher this year.
- 4:47Speaker 3: You're going to see him in this game. You're going
- 4:50Speaker 3: to see TJ. Tampa, who was a fourth round corner
- 4:54Speaker 3: two years ago in twenty twenty four. You're going to
- 4:57Speaker 3: see a lot of him. Trent Simpson will probably started
- 4:59Speaker 3: inside Becker in this game. You canna see with Sean Benny,
- 5:04Speaker 3: who's a now he got hurt. If he's not, if
- 5:08Speaker 3: he's healthy, he'll play in this game. He got hurt
- 5:10Speaker 3: and the practice I was in he played for Jesse
- 5:12Speaker 3: Minterer at Michigan. So you'll see guys like that Mike
- 5:16Speaker 3: Green will see how much he plays. Who's a second
- 5:19Speaker 3: round at trusher last year. Tavis Robinson, who's on a
- 5:22Speaker 3: fine ros rookie deal. He was a fourth rounder in
- 5:25Speaker 3: twenty twenty three out of Mississippi. So you're going to
- 5:27Speaker 3: see some of those guys with this backup offensive line
- 5:31Speaker 3: group and backup offense for the Eagles in this game.
- 5:36Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan joining us scores Football at four powered by
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- 5:48Speaker 1: preseason game number one, Adam for you, is there a
- 5:54Speaker 1: particular bird that you're looking at who will get time
- 5:57Speaker 1: tomorrow against this new scheme.
- 5:59Speaker 3: Of getting yep, and it's going to be Tanner McKee
- 6:03Speaker 3: number sixteen. I just I am stunned that he has
- 6:07Speaker 3: not won the job at where it's not obvious. It's
- 6:09Speaker 3: definitely not obvious. Dalton and Tanner McKee are even I'm disappointed,
- 6:13Speaker 3: and that McKee is not. I've just stunned that he
- 6:16Speaker 3: has not taken a hold of this job. And of
- 6:19Speaker 3: course you will see called Payton late. But Tanner McKean
- 6:22Speaker 3: needs to really take hold of this job, and he's
- 6:24Speaker 3: got three preseason games to do it. He would be
- 6:27Speaker 3: one Mark l Bell number seventy two, their third round
- 6:30Speaker 3: pick out of University of Miami. Want to see how
- 6:33Speaker 3: he plays this He should be starting in this game.
- 6:36Speaker 3: That'd be another guy. You know what I want to
- 6:37Speaker 3: see do welld receiver is Hollywood Brown. I'd like to
- 6:40Speaker 3: see Tanner McKee hit him on a down for your
- 6:42Speaker 3: pass because that's the one thing that's missing with this group.
- 6:46Speaker 3: We're not seeing a lot of nine routes, deep routes.
- 6:49Speaker 3: I need to see more of that, Josh, We're just
- 6:53Speaker 3: not I don't know why he's number zero. When you
- 6:55Speaker 3: watch the game tomorrow night. Darris Cooper's been phenomenal. He's
- 6:58Speaker 3: been Cooper been terrific by the way Cooper lately last
- 7:03Speaker 3: week he's been a little bit better than Wicks. But
- 7:05Speaker 3: and we'll see Danis Cooper obviously and seeing how in
- 7:08Speaker 3: a starting role. I don't care that's against backups. I
- 7:12Speaker 3: just want to see how he performs. It's too bad
- 7:13Speaker 3: we're not gonna see Mackay levin, Josh. It's disappointing. They
- 7:17Speaker 3: have to get him ready for the regular season, but
- 7:19Speaker 3: he's really missing some more important reps. Here.
- 7:21Speaker 1: Andrew de Checko is on with us book very highly
- 7:23Speaker 1: of Cooper yesterday for Yesterday Football and for here on.
- 7:27Speaker 2: Ninety seven three ESPN. Adam is speaking of the Eagles.
- 7:31Speaker 1: So you mentioned about Tanner McKee, so one of the
- 7:35Speaker 1: Eagles would have accomplished I'm assuming they might want some
- 7:38Speaker 1: clarity here on is McKee gonna take that step or
- 7:42Speaker 1: is Adulton gonna lock down QB two.
- 7:46Speaker 3: Yeah, And with the McKee here, we want to see
- 7:48Speaker 3: him be decisive, Okay. Jet's one thing I didn't mention, Josh.
- 7:51Speaker 3: He's got a great arm, way better than Dalton's. Okay,
- 7:55Speaker 3: but he's not playing with consistent timing it. That's what
- 7:58Speaker 3: you say with practice. It's just not I it surprises
- 8:02Speaker 3: me because that's never been a problem for him. His
- 8:04Speaker 3: mobility is not the problem, has nothing to do with it. It's
- 8:06Speaker 3: just we got to see more from him there and
- 8:08Speaker 3: then time picks me's but phenomenal camp. It's not like
- 8:12Speaker 3: we need to learn any more from him. And then
- 8:15Speaker 3: before we get the defense, Josh, some of these backup
- 8:18Speaker 3: offensive linemen we know ready about Threw Kennell Jake Major
- 8:22Speaker 3: has been a nice surprise Umber seventy five. You could
- 8:24Speaker 3: play garter center, Willie Lampkin. Okay, Willie Lampkin cross train
- 8:28Speaker 3: at guards, at guard lately and center. Let's see what
- 8:32Speaker 3: he looks like in this game. These look for the
- 8:34Speaker 3: first time like many years, Josh, they finally have some
- 8:37Speaker 3: talented developmental backup offensive lineman.
- 8:40Speaker 1: Before movie of the Defense, Adam, I could you get
- 8:43Speaker 1: some clarity on the McKey situation for you? Do you
- 8:48Speaker 1: think McKee is having these struggles because it's a new
- 8:52Speaker 1: offense or do you think it might be something else.
- 8:55Speaker 3: It's a great question. The terminology has changed that going
- 8:59Speaker 3: to the West Coast verbage system. It's not the numbering
- 9:01Speaker 3: system anymore. It's hard to know, Josh, but I can
- 9:05Speaker 3: only go but what I see what I'm told. He's
- 9:07Speaker 3: just hesitating. It's never been him before, Josh. I you
- 9:11Speaker 3: know Hurts. Look, Hurts is obviously for him too. He's
- 9:14Speaker 3: been inconsistent, but better lately. And remember Hurts is having
- 9:17Speaker 3: to do this without Smith for almost two weeks and
- 9:20Speaker 3: Lemon for almost allf training camp. So let's see what
- 9:23Speaker 3: happens here, Josh. Tomorrow night I'm looking forward to seeing.
- 9:27Speaker 3: And by the way, Tara McKee's coming out party as
- 9:30Speaker 3: a rookie was against these said Ravens where he wasn't
- 9:33Speaker 3: doing well in camp, and man, did he look good
- 9:36Speaker 3: against them. We were kind of surprised because he didn't
- 9:38Speaker 3: have the mobility has now. But that's where he you know,
- 9:41Speaker 3: that's that's where we saw it four years.
- 9:43Speaker 2: Ago, Adam.
- 9:44Speaker 1: I was watching that game at a local establishment down here,
- 9:47Speaker 1: McKee versus the Ravens two years ago. The number of
- 9:50Speaker 1: people who were losing their minds watching that game. And
- 9:53Speaker 1: I wasn't not a normal sports bar. I was at
- 9:55Speaker 1: like a very more you know, summary establishment. The number
- 9:59Speaker 1: of people we're talking about the key at this summer
- 10:03Speaker 1: bar was absolutely ridiculous two years ago.
- 10:05Speaker 3: We know why because we didn't he didn't do anything
- 10:08Speaker 3: in training camp. This this is I thought it was
- 10:10Speaker 3: this rookie season. I could be wrong when we saw
- 10:12Speaker 3: this game, but I'm pretty certain it was. But it
- 10:15Speaker 3: was one of these things You're like, I get it.
- 10:17Speaker 3: It's I get it. It's against a back against a
- 10:19Speaker 3: bunch of backups. He's a third string quarterback, but arms
- 10:22Speaker 3: trans is armstrength, yep, And it was just it was
- 10:25Speaker 3: kind of wow. I was just kind of but he
- 10:27Speaker 3: was so stiff moving moving in training camp. I was like,
- 10:32Speaker 3: I was kind of skeptical. And then he took off.
- 10:34Speaker 3: His second training camp was really good and he's been good,
- 10:37Speaker 3: you know, but the struggle started for him and that
- 10:39Speaker 3: Washington last week eighteen game, Josh did not play well
- 10:43Speaker 3: and they brought it in Andy Dalton a compete against him.
- 10:46Speaker 3: That's really real. I mean, there's no question it's it's
- 10:48Speaker 3: absolutely a competition.
- 10:50Speaker 1: Adam flipping it over to the defense. You know, one
- 10:52Speaker 1: of the conversations we had with Andrew Duscheko yesterday was
- 10:55Speaker 1: about the defense because we know we're not going to
- 10:58Speaker 1: see the mean, you're not gonna see a bunch of
- 11:01Speaker 1: snap for Carter or Jordan Davis or you know, Zach Bourn.
- 11:05Speaker 1: But who on defense needs to make a mark. You
- 11:10Speaker 1: mentioned before Mac McWilliams and Jakorean Bennett, but who won
- 11:13Speaker 1: the defensive front needs to do it, no.
- 11:15Speaker 3: Doubt about it. It's Ty Robinson. I know there are
- 11:18Speaker 3: a lot of people in Scotting that Jeff and I
- 11:20Speaker 3: know who raved about the s guy before the draft
- 11:23Speaker 3: last year. And look they saying the wrong. Yeahdam it's
- 11:26Speaker 3: only his second year, but it's also not guaranteed to
- 11:28Speaker 3: make the team. Howie Roseman has cut a fourth round
- 11:31Speaker 3: pick prior to a second season. That was Donal Prumfrey,
- 11:35Speaker 3: who quite frankly, they could have cut your one, no
- 11:36Speaker 3: one would have cared because he was awful for them.
- 11:39Speaker 3: He actually wound up never playing it down in the
- 11:40Speaker 3: National Football League. Ty Robinson is more talented this but
- 11:43Speaker 3: he's very raw. Technique. Stuff was not good last summer.
- 11:47Speaker 3: His preseason tape was not good at all, and he's
- 11:50Speaker 3: not really he's just not He's just not pushing for anything.
- 11:54Speaker 3: Barr Youngest is the top backup that's not up to debate.
- 11:57Speaker 3: It's you know, I know, people bring up you orp
- 11:59Speaker 3: and the Eagles won't play Hi until they think he's ready. Now,
- 12:02Speaker 3: if he plays tomorrow night, they think he's ready and
- 12:04Speaker 3: to at least get some snaps. But tyro Robinson is
- 12:07Speaker 3: my guy for this entire game because Byron young is
- 12:11Speaker 3: on the final years rookie deal. They and Marrow Joonas
- 12:14Speaker 3: not got his extension yet, so they got to get
- 12:18Speaker 3: Ty Robinson going here, no question about it.
- 12:20Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned guys way before my mind goes back
- 12:23Speaker 1: to Ada. Remember Davion Taylor. He was a third round
- 12:26Speaker 1: pick and the Eagles cut him two years after drafting him.
- 12:31Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well he he went up going to the Cardinals.
- 12:34Speaker 3: Agannon brought him in, he did special teams and he's
- 12:36Speaker 3: out of the league. That that was a major reach.
- 12:38Speaker 3: I remember when after he was drafted, we told the
- 12:41Speaker 3: two if you go wow, they win around this kid.
- 12:44Speaker 3: Is that he's very raw from a processing standpoint, should
- 12:49Speaker 3: go on to the sixth round, not the third. But
- 12:52Speaker 3: he could run. But yeah, that was a total miss that.
- 12:54Speaker 3: You know, look how he prior to twenty one, how
- 12:57Speaker 3: he was at bottom half of the National Foot League drafter.
- 13:00Speaker 3: I mean, that's just the truth. It's not our job
- 13:02Speaker 3: to take any side. He would tell you what we know,
- 13:04Speaker 3: what we see and what we hear. Now he's a
- 13:07Speaker 3: top five drafter. It's I can't explain it to you
- 13:09Speaker 3: other than he started drafting in the SEC. I think
- 13:12Speaker 3: that kind of helped him. Bat On Jordia, you think, yeah, uh,
- 13:16Speaker 3: and but you know what the Quinon Mitchell pick was
- 13:18Speaker 3: that that's not a power five school to take a
- 13:22Speaker 3: kid from Toledo. That was gussy didn't play man covers
- 13:25Speaker 3: in college. Howie's an elite drafter. Now Jax Hunts another
- 13:30Speaker 3: one from not a power school. Yes, uh, and he
- 13:34Speaker 3: he's just he's great. We we we we don't rip people.
- 13:37Speaker 3: We tell the truth. We were very critical of him,
- 13:39Speaker 3: rightfully so, but he's turned it around because he's he's
- 13:43Speaker 3: a much better film watcher and he's just doing a
- 13:45Speaker 3: much better job.
- 13:46Speaker 1: Yeah. That that draft time from Jill Hurts ended up
- 13:49Speaker 1: completely like the one of the worst drafts of all time.
- 13:52Speaker 3: Josh. By the way, Tessa, what they drafted Hurts to
- 13:55Speaker 3: be a backup? Yes, people ripped us for saying that,
- 13:58Speaker 3: but then they told us, okay, right, they didn't draft
- 14:02Speaker 3: they drafted Hurts. Remember they extended Wentz in June of
- 14:07Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. They drafted Hurts to the second round in April,
- 14:11Speaker 3: twenty ten months Come on, folks, ten months after. Of course,
- 14:15Speaker 3: they drafted Hurts as a back. They didn't know that.
- 14:17Speaker 3: They didn't know that Wentz would go in the tank.
- 14:18Speaker 3: But it is what it is. And hey, you know what,
- 14:20Speaker 3: if they didn't draft Hurts, who knows they would have
- 14:22Speaker 3: gotten all that that draft wrong.
- 14:24Speaker 2: Absolutely for more insights.
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- 14:42Speaker 2: Adam great stuff today.
- 14:43Speaker 1: A man.
- 14:44Speaker 3: Thank you,