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STA188 'How To Set Up A Sports Massage Therapy Business - Part 3: Mobile and Event Work' · The STA Clinician Podcast

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You're listening to the Sports Therapy Association podcast, putting evidence
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back into soft tissue therapy.
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Music.
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Hey people, how are you doing? Welcome to episode 188 of the Sports Therapy Association podcast.
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Podcast my name is matt phillips creator of runchatlive.com and
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as always this episode is being recorded live on a
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tuesday at eight o'clock on the sports therapy association
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youtube channel and also on the sports therapy association facebook
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page and in the sports therapy association facebook open group um if you are
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listening to the podcast then thank you very much um i understand the joy of
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listening in your own time maybe you're at work on the train or in the car But
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if you do fancy joining us live so you can mix with the other people who join
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Then all you need to do is on a Tuesday at 8 o'clock, keep that time free,
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and then you can choose YouTube or Facebook page or if you prefer a Facebook
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group, totally up to you and we'd love to have you along.
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On so we have arrived at part
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three of our three-part series how to
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set up a massage therapy business in which
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each episode we have a panel of experienced sports massage
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therapists and sports therapists who share tips on how to set up a sports massage
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clinic and part one was all about setting up a clinic in your home be it in
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a garage or garden or a room in the house and we had I had a fantastic chat
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with four different therapists covering all of those aspects.
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And there were some amazing images. I would recommend if you listen to podcasts
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and you haven't listened to these episodes, then they're definitely a YouTube
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one because you'll be able to see pictures being shared.
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And tonight we'll probably have some pictures being shared as well, fingers crossed.
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Part two last week was all about setting up clinic by renting or leasing a room,
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be it in a gym or another practice or something similar.
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Again, it was a hugely valuable episode. episode, we got onto the topic of recognising
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the difference between having an
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employer and then a clinic owner and the different responsibilities that.
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Come into play there sometimes the expectations when you're
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an associate being over the top and actually they can't ask
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you to do certain things if they do then really they should be treating
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you as an employee so there was a lot
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of really interesting information and we were joined by chloe
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reynolds has actually enjoyed it so much he's back this week and also
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sarah janes of affinity body works imi tester was with
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us at back on track soft tissue therapy and also
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the wonderful anna maria mattieri who's the director of the st school and
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Hans on Hub at Therapy Expo who gave us a massive load of
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great information about the importance of contracts
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and making a decision as to whether you're
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going to be an associate working at someone else's
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place but still being self-employed or actually being
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an employee and the difference between the two so all
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of these episodes are available on your favorite podcast apps
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and also on YouTube like I say and at
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the Sports Therapy Association website which is is thesta.co.uk
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right there we go back to this episode
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of sports therapy association podcast which as i say is how to set up a massage
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therapy business part three mobile and event work let's bring up in no particular
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order tonight's panel you're listening to the sports therapy association Association podcast.
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Music.
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Putting evidence back in the soft tissue therapy.
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There we go. I believe I've got everybody. Yes, I have. Hey, everybody, how are you?
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Hello. Good evening. Hi. Wonderful. That's what I like. Four hellos.
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The number of times people have kind of waved at the beginning of a podcast.
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I just have to remind you that some people, about 3,000 a month,
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no pressure, choose to listen to this.
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No pressure. I just thought I'd drop that in now before I asked you.
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But thank you so much for coming up, being guests on the show.
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It's proved so popular, this series, and purely because it's about people sharing their experiences.
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And that's our listeners, whether they're STA members or not.
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There's a lot of them and they just love hearing about other people's experiences
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it's almost we believe don't we in in other people now more than brands and
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that comes into marketing i think you sell yourself rather than your brand we
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go to amazon recommendations and kind of like,
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to choose what we're going to buy we go to chip advisor so it's it's a sign
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of the times we love speaking listening to other people so thank you for joining
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us we appreciate it before we do jump into things just a again a reminder out
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there if anyone is joining us from the facebook group
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then facebook security means that you do need to click on a little link which
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i should bring up now at the bottom of the screen and basically it's just b.live
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forward slash comments hyphen issue.
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And and if you click on that just once then what
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you should see on your screen i'll bring it up here on the screen so
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you can see it is you'll get a you've all set with the
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belive logo there and it says there's no need to do it again your facebook
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name and profile image will be visible when you leave a comment
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on all future broadcasts and
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actually we've talked about this before it's a good way to get your logo out
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there if you're going to ask a question on screen don't forget a lot
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of youtube viewers are going to see this and they'll get to know you and they
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might say oh that's a nice logo i like that i'm going to look at their website
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now and before you know it you might have increased the circle of your therapeutic
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alliances and it might be someone in your area so it is worth clicking that
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link just to make sure that all of your glorious logos and faces come up there.
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Right then tonight mobile and event
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work as we've done in the past we will spend a little bit of time just to let
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our listeners know who is on the panel tonight and so all i want is just a little
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bit about yourself i think where you are in the country is really nice because
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the amount of times people go just down the road from you it's amazing um it's
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a small world so let us know where you are.
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And then what you do at the moment and then
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what your experience of if there is any of mobile
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and indoor event work so i'm just
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going to go around the clock according to who i can see on the screen actually no
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i'll go in an order here carla carla bicker staff of
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sports massage by carla tell us about yourself will
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you so i have a degree in
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sports therapy and special conditioning graduated a
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very long time ago now but i currently am
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working sort of mostly in clinic
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based in in Sheffield and then I do a
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lot more event work as well so I'm all over
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the country from that various different events and different
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types of event work as well so sometimes it's
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as myself that has been subcontracted for
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a company sometimes I work as part of an independent medical team so we are
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contracted in by an event to provide services and then most recently I've I've
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worked as part of a medical team for a specific team.
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Like when I was away with the Invictus Games, I was part of Team UK.
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So I worked solely with that team.
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And each sort of element has a different sort of attribute to it,
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I think, and is slightly different in the services that we offer,
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the way you interact with people and things like that. But I love it. I love the event work.
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I love being in clinic. I really like the diversity of the two that I get as
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well. So, yeah, it's great.
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That's great. Thanks for joining us. I think we're going to be hearing quite
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a lot about you in the event part of the talk, because tell us a little bit
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more about Invictus Games so people aren't aware what it is and also how you
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managed to get into it. because it sounds like a really inspirational,
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rewarding gig. So let's know about it.
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So the Invictus Games is for wounded, sick and injured service personnel from all the armed forces.
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And for me, it's something that I've always wanted to do because I've done a
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lot of work in para-swimming.
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I wanted to be involved a little bit more with people with disabilities,
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be that physical or mental.
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And the Invictus Games opportunity came
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around by I basically
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I was invited to apply for the job through the work
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I'd done with Swim England I sent my application
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in just hoping kind of I
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would get something and I was invited along
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to their selection process and I
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went through the same selection process that all the athletes went through
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and got the call in February last year that I had actually been selected for
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the team but I wasn't allowed to release any information until March the end
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of March when it was publicly released which was quite difficult because people
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keep asking you all how's it gone have you heard anything that kind of thing,
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But then I had the whole year sort of working with the competitors that have
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been selected for the team and getting to know them individually and their sort
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of injuries and difficulties that they struggle with.
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And not just the physical side of some of the injuries, but the mental side
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as well, which for some of them is almost a bigger challenge to overcome than the physical side.
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And then in September last year we.
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All flew out to Dusseldorf and we were
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out there for 10 days at the games and seeing the
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change in some of the competitors from the first day that
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we got there to the last
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day that we left was just amazing and how
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much progress they'd made in their recovery not only
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in themselves but the advice
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that they were offering to their fellow competitors as well everybody was
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so supportive and it was just a real really nice
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team environment to be part of and to be able to support
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them and support their recovery is just
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is is great and when the
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team was selected they were selected based on for
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the competitors at least who it was
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going to be most beneficial for for their recovery so it's
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not necessarily the best athletes it's who
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it's going going to help the most whereas other countries might
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select their participants based on who's going
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to win the most medals team uk didn't do
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that we did it was selected on who is
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going to benefit the most from this process and this extra support
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that they're going to get and being part
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of that medical team was just it was brilliant i had the
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best time it was so much fun that's great i
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can hear your voice and this is probably something which we will look.
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At when we go into more into detail into event work but i guess there.
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Is also there's this team camaraderie or
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camaraderie between the actual therapist and then you're seeing that.
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The actual competition that's going on and it's yeah
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it sounds like something that could be very rewarding for listeners out
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there who are interested in getting into event work i'm sure there's some
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dangers and downsides as well as in everything but we'll come to
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them shortly right well thanks very much carla if.
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You're watching youtube then carla's not called carla bickers it's just
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because the names the font's too big and i
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i keep telling the software designers but live tv if you are
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watching this here once again we've got somebody's name has been truncated
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disgustingly and it's not even their real name so i'll put
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another thing into the developers just to let you know how functionality is
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important with streaming but anyway let's not dwell on that now that's gonna
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be a perfect soundbite to send to them now right let's move around let's go.
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On to hannah who's back from week one recovered how are you Yeah,
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you just can't get rid of me.
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No, I'm good, thank you. So yeah, I'm Hannah Tabram. I work on the Norfolk-Suffolk border.
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Like Matt said, I was on a couple of weeks ago because I have a treatment room
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in my garden, which is where most of my work comes from, what most of my work is done now.
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But I do still have two mobile clients I go to see. And when I started out,
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I was completely mobile.
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And I did that for sort of a year and a bit before I got my treatment room up and running.
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So, yeah, that's my kind of mobile background.
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Fantastic. I'm looking forward to that. But you, so it's all of your work now
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based from your, what do you call it, the shed with pretensions?
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The shed with pretensions, yeah.
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Mostly. I've got two clients I still go out to because for them,
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my treatment room is not accessible.
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It's not step free access. Both of them would need both of them have to be hoisted for transfers.
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So you'd have to have a very special clinic set up, I think,
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for it to be accessible for those particular clients. So I go to them.
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Fantastic. Excellent. Right. We look forward to hearing you later on.
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Let's move around the circle to Katie Evans of Move Well Soft Tissue Therapy.
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Hi, Katie. Hi there. Hi, good evening.
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Yeah, I'm Katie. I live in Cornwall, right down in the west of Cornwall, near Penzance.
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I've been here about 12 years.
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I'm currently sitting in my cabin now, which is where the majority of my work is now.
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But I started way back in the early 90s. So I'm in my 32nd year of being a therapist.
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And I started as a mobile therapist when I first freshly qualified.
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And from that qualification, I went on to university to do a sports degree.
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And I worked as a mobile therapist whilst I was a student. I was a mature student, 22.
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So I've had many, many years with mobile. But in the day before social media
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and even mobile phones were out and the World Wide Web didn't even exist.
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So a very different world back then.
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I've experienced pro sport. I worked for Leicester Tigers for five years as
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their sports therapist, which was incredible.
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It's the years where we won everything. So that was fantastic.
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I did sports massage and therapy.
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And then when I moved to Cornwall with young children, I had a bit of a break
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from it, having a family.
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And I went to work for a private physio clinic just to get my name in Cornwall.
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I was 300 miles away from home. No one knew me.
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And I picked up my mobile work again then.
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And then had the cabin built in my back
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garden so I was almost doing three things in
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a physio clinic mobile and private practice and
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then November 19 decided
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to purely go my own
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sadly COVID came in there three months later which
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is just disastrous but it is mainly all
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clinic work work now where I'm sitting
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here in my back garden so yeah I've
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been around the houses and I like to think I've got a fair few years
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left in me so I absolutely
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love it and if I can inspire anyone else to start or
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and and if you have started to keep going you know it's a fantastic industry
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to be in and I wouldn't if people say if you could have done anything else what
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you what with your life what would you have done I still would have chosen it
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even though I've done some lecturing and and teaching just the hands-on and
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being with people and helping people.
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I just think I've, I win the lottery every single day.
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So, you know, there is, there is.
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Chance for anyone to have as long career as i have that's so
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nice to hear and it's lovely and so far we've had
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three out of three people saying i love what i do i love my work and
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i think that's something which we all kind of celebrate and it'd
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be really and it's it's very inspirational it's why people love um
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tuning in hearing about people's experiences there's going to be some troubles
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and tribulations that will obviously come up and you learn the hard way you
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learn from mistakes but it's lovely to hear all of your
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enjoyment of what you do so i win the lot every
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every day isn't that a great expression it's not used enough that's great
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right and last but by no means least Chloe
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Reynolds is back from last week how are you Chloe from CR
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Sports Massage yeah I'm good thank you so I'm
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Chloe I'm based in Chicksbury in Gloucestershire I now
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mainly work from a treatment room but originally I was doing
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lots of mobile during my like training and then
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in kind of my first year and it's gradually got less and
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less and less for like quite a very few different reasons
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I haven't done too much event work just I think
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mainly because I'm yet to find events that suit me and what
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I want to match with but yeah my experience for
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tonight especially is more mobile than anything else really
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fantastic look forward to it and again just
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to reiterate part two last week and
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part one all available on your favorite podcast player.
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Wherever that may be also on youtube which I recommend and
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also on where else oh yeah at
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the sto.co.uk so I mean you don't have to listen
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to the order it's a bit like Jack Reacher Lee Charles you don't
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have to read the books in order but it helps kind of in a way if you
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do but you don't have to right so let's get
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into the nitty-gritty things and thanks again everybody for joining us my
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wonderful sta members let's start off
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then just because it came first on the on the
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title mobile work is i'm interested did covid hit mobile work obviously during
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mobile work it got everything got ruined since covid has anyone experienced
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that mobile work has picked up again or has it always been dented or or is it
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not really affected it's as strong as it ever was.
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Anyone can jump into that if anyone has any answers to
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it i mean i qualified in 2021 so
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i didn't go through the whole covid years i kind of came out when i first trained
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it was all very much you know you need face masks and your face shields and
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you're kind of going in like sort of you're about to i don't know do some kind
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of biohazard work in a film or something like that but i mean I think that for me,
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things seem to pick up quite quickly.
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I think by 2021, my experience was people were like, wear a mask if you want
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to wear a mask. I don't really mind too much.
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I think people were a bit, they were kind of over it.
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Does that make sense? And I don't know if that's just everyone's very blasé
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in Norfolk because we obviously, I'm in a rural area.
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We didn't have the same kind of experience that maybe people did in sort of
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big urban areas maybe it was maybe people are just more laid back I don't know
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but yeah that was my experience.
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Anybody else works through covid and came out doing mobile
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work on the other end I think covid was probably like
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the death of my mobile work really I think where I
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was doing lots before and then all of a sudden as Hannah
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said you're then wearing like tons of different stuff I think
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it was that an added extra on to me having to take my
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equipment having to find a location making sure
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they're okay with me and the bubbles were a weird thing at
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that point as well it became it became the death
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of it because you're then in someone's house you're
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then with all their family and then you go see someone else in their house
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with all their family so for me until the ppe it
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was kind of gradual death i think of my mobile work
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on the majority that's the
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same for me i only only had two mobile left in the end
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and after covid they decided they wanted
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to stop it purely for safety of the family bubbles and
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the two people i see were housebound and they they knew
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I was back in the clinic mixing with other people and they didn't want me they
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fielded so strictly they didn't want me coming back with you know got children
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going back to school clinic getting busy again and they had to sort of step
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to it because they said I was quite a risk to to the.
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So that's when it totally finished for me as well yeah definitely it was weird times,
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and I know a lot of therapists did just never
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come back from it really it was tricky I mean whether you were mobile or
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whether you had a practice particularly clinic owners and things like that it
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was just real hard times people who even if you're not as into mobile as you
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were before let's talk about some of the advantages if you if you're not doing
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it now maybe you can look back what are some of the pros of actually getting
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into mobile work and and lugging your couch around to other people rather than
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expect them to come to you.
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I think when you start out specially, there's huge benefit in the fact that
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your costs, once you've kind of bought your equipment and you've got your car
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insurance sorted out, your costs are very much directly linked to how many clients you're doing.
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So you're not committed to kind of renting a room. You haven't got a loan to
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pay for maybe, you know, a building in your garden.
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If you only get two clients in a week when you start out, which when I first
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started out, like there were weeks when I only had one or two clients.
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But that was okay because that just meant I was using less petrol and generating
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less laundry I wasn't sort of under a lot of pressure to kind of cover some
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kind of fixed overhead cost so yeah I think that's one really big advantage
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especially when you're first getting going and you're getting yourself out there
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that's such a good point yeah excellent Chloe you're sitting there nodding,
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yeah no I completely agree I was just looking at my list and
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seeing like accessibility I think like cost when you first start is
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great I think to be able to get yourself into someone's
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house and you end up chatting to family your name gets
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out there even more which is a great way but just accessibility for
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clients that you wouldn't normally
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see whether it is a disability accessibility thing or whether it's just a macro
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that you being in their house for them works much better in their week i think
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that's also really nice because you're in their lives you're coming into their
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properties as well i think it can create a really nice environment for them.
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Yeah yeah excellent yeah sorry i jumped in
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when you were going to say something there katie yeah no
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problem a few things to me and i know we
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like to think about our ideal clients and really honing in
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on our ideal client but when you're mobile you really can have a
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broader spectrum of people so from stay-at-home mums
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to you know office workers now who are working from home since
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the pandemic housebound people so
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your days really varied in fact no one day
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is ever the same and i think that's really important for motivation
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levels and you don't get the the no
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show you know it's very rare that you turn up to a house and
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someone's not in so it's nice to actually
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you know know you're almost you are guaranteed to work that's
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true they are less i mean i remember from from experience they
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do happen there's nothing more rewarding is there from
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turning up with your caps getting to the front door and then ding dong
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and oh sorry i didn't know but hey yeah
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they are very rare yes yeah yeah okay so
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we're looking at you i love the idea that yeah you're as much as control your
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costs you go there you get paid if you're not working there at least you're
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not kind of using up anything you haven't got that expectation where someone's
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having a go at you and kind of expecting you to deliver um anything do you think
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it's a certain type of person that will be good at mobile work?
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Is there some characteristics or personality type you need to have to make it work?
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I think you've got to be fairly confident in your ability to sort of walk into
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someone's house and kind of set yourself up and create the right kind of environment for them.
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You do have to go in as kind of a professional and have a very sort of,
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obviously we have to be professionals at all times with our clients,
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but especially when you're going into someone's home, I think you have to have
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that kind of, you have to be ready to be very professional about everything.
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I think also what Chloe said about accessibility is a really, really good point.
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Point I've said my two clients I still see who are
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mobile clients I don't think there
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would be a treatment room set up that would work for them I don't think
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there would be a clinical setup they could go to that would work for them because of
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their very specific needs because they're both very young as well
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for me going into their home into their
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familiar environment with their equipment and that kind of thing
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works for them really really well in a
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way that coming to someone I just don't think would work for
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them so yeah that's a really good point as well so it's
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great for them and and again we've said it a few times being
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in this industry you you haven't gone down this
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road to make loads of money there's far more secure ways of
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making a fortune but what you do get is the buzz of making a
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difference to people's lives and that if you're a massage therapist you're
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not making a difference to people's lives and you're really getting nothing
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i mean you're getting paid little and getting no rewards so i suppose it is
23:43
lovely if you can do something where you're getting that you know that that
23:46
that feedback where you're really making a difference because that'll just keep
23:49
you going and motivate you so it's good to hear um personality any other recommendations
23:54
for people to know whether they should do it or maybe not get into it,
23:57
you've got to be strong off your lugging or your equipment around.
24:02
I've been asked to go to a flat before and you arrive and then a really really
24:06
steep stairs and then you look up and you think oh no i've got to get my bed up it's really,
24:11
there's oh gosh what a couch is like these days the
24:15
last time i bought a couch when did mobile mobile work it was
24:18
like 18 years ago and i'm wondering whether
24:20
nowadays there's more variety and they're all made
24:23
of some kind of like feather like material or something but do you still have
24:26
to look around to find a light couch they're lighter aren't they in the old
24:29
days it was like a workout for you it's like you didn't belong to the gym so
24:33
the couch is it's a nubus couch i don't think anybody's heard of those but it's
24:39
actually inflatable and it packs down to the size of a,
24:42
suitcase that you would have like a carry-on for an airplane oh
24:45
that's it's on wheels so i can drag it definitely did have this around when
24:49
i was when you say inflatable hold on i've got this image of the legs are inflatable
24:52
as well how does that work um so it's a metal it's a metal frame that you found
24:56
out and you clip the legs into it and then the top bit is basically if you imagine
25:00
like a paddleboard type thing yeah it's kind of like that and it sits on top and it's secured.
25:06
Don't freeze now it's it
25:09
takes literally two minutes to
25:12
set up so it saves my back and like i
25:17
can wear it as a backpack or i can wheel it it's i
25:20
i it was a big investment that sounds great
25:24
and presumably it's comfortable i mean what's the feedback from clients is
25:27
it comfortable for everybody or is it like a certain size or
25:30
weight so i used it all the way through through Invictus and
25:33
everybody said to me it was really comfy but it's
25:36
also quite tactile so if you're somebody who like it's
25:40
really smooth and it sounds really stupid to
25:43
say it but the the surface of it is very smooth
25:46
and soft it's quite a firm couch on
25:50
the if you google it and you look at them you'll see them actually
25:53
people doing like gymnastics on it like doing a handstand so it's very
25:55
sturdy once it's up but actually to lie
25:58
on it I would happily lie on it and go to bed on
26:01
it overnight if i put like tactics like it's that's
26:05
how i feel about it but i suppose it depends
26:08
on your clients um and what sort of treatment
26:11
you're offering for them as well so if you
26:15
get it ripped or it punches can you keep the legs and yeah yeah so you can change
26:24
you can you can order it comes in a variety of colors so you can color code
26:29
it to your business and things like that and you can have your business name
26:33
printed on it and things like that.
26:36
And like i say though it is quite an expensive couch it's not something that
26:40
if you were just starting out i wouldn't say go and spend money on this because
26:44
you're talking like between sort of 1500 to 2000 pounds wow it is it is a big
26:50
investment a load of our listeners have just just stop listening to you completely. Sorry.
26:56
But for me, I found it so much easier, like you say, from carrying around a huge collection.
27:05
Bed that i had when i first started out and started working and things like that,
27:10
definitely it's now literally like a suitcase size
27:13
fits in the boot of my car so easy i put my kit bag on top
27:16
of it it's like you say i mean it's all relevant it's
27:19
all relative because if you're doing a lot of event work you know
27:22
you want something that you can carry around isn't you're not going to end up
27:25
aching and missing out on work later on because your back's hurting so
27:28
it's it's weighing things up isn't it so obviously it's expensive but if
27:31
your livelihood comes from event work and that's the investment that
27:35
is something i've thought of with that i wonder if you've got an experience in it
27:37
when if you're doing mobile work then obviously you've
27:40
got all different shapes sizes weights and even
27:44
just kind of tastes of the people that you are visiting so that's something
27:48
which is important when you take a couch they need something which can be can
27:51
adapt according to the person who is at the other end so is that something that
27:55
therapy should look out for because there are some cheap stuff out there there's
27:59
some cheap stuff out there but But suddenly you've got somebody who's a bit heavier or wider,
28:02
and this bench just won't help.
28:05
This bench just can't help. So what's your advice there?
28:09
I think most of the English-based standards now are pretty good.
28:12
If you go to physique, you know, I think the ones that they offer,
28:15
I think most people now are going to cater for that.
28:19
You may get some a little bit narrower to try and make it lighter.
28:23
Lighter but you can finally establish what
28:26
your client's like before you go and then you can get the add-on bolsters
28:29
that go on the sides for their arms like the straps
28:32
that go over and you can just lie your arms on and
28:35
you can take the head cradle so because hopefully you're
28:38
finding out who the client is before you go you're not knowing who
28:41
they are so once you get a little picture of who that
28:44
person is you can take the kits the right kits with you some couches are adaptable
28:49
with add-ons i found that just one thing on the size of the couch it did have
28:55
a friend who bought a smaller car it was more economical for mileage and then
29:00
found it i couldn't get the couch in.
29:04
Yeah that's true as well yeah that's true
29:09
the car you buy you've got to think you've got to think a lot yeah yeah
29:12
i had a nissan micro yeah i've got
29:14
a few 500 of mine fits in the boot of that yeah yeah i
29:18
had the seats folded down in my car but yeah the massage mobile was uh fantastic
29:22
what about i mean again i'm going back a bit since i've done my mobile work
29:30
but i remember some people thinking oh should i get adjustable legs or not it's
29:33
like if you're doing mobile work,
29:35
because i'm sure you guys well i presume you guys will agree that changing the
29:40
height of the couch is going to be an important thing to do not just on different
29:44
size people but if you're doing different techniques or something it's quite
29:46
an important thing isn't it so can you get by on without without adjustable
29:50
legs if you're doing mobile work i was at when most of them have yeah,
29:56
I mean, I don't tend to change the height of mine very much just because it's a faff.
29:59
So I just tend to, I've always just said what I've got, but you know, yeah, they'll be fine.
30:06
But yeah, it can be done. There was a therapy expo this year.
30:11
There was a stand that had what they said was a completely portable electric
30:15
massage table, which I didn't look at properly just because I wasn't,
30:19
that's not what I'm looking for anymore. But it was really interesting.
30:22
It looked really good. I saw a couple of people having a go on it. and
30:25
it looked yeah completely adjustable and yeah it looked good after doing mobile
30:31
work i remember when i moved into we set up a big clinic and stuff having that
30:36
automatic couch was just like heaven especially i'm really pedal it's just like
30:41
i'm never going out again anymore look they just,
30:44
we're just putting down for hell of it you don't even need to it's something else,
30:47
it's something else but yeah you're not gonna have that with so it was the idea
30:51
that this was a mobile yeah it was meant to be a completely portable electric
30:55
massage table gosh that is something else wow um gary benson's just said here
30:59
a bit more closely if i'd known you were going to do.
31:02
I'm just going to say um gary benson's mentioned in the comments sta members have
31:05
a great deal with physique it's true on a lightweight couch or
31:08
even a starter pack if it's just starting out i was chatting with the physique people the
31:10
other day with lovely hour communication and yeah
31:14
make sure if you are an sta member that you have
31:17
a look in the sta members area for the very
31:19
generous discount you get from physique this can save you lots
31:22
of dosh and it's really a one-stop shop
31:25
got loads of stuff sound like i'm doing an info now i feel like i'm
31:28
doing some american info but it is that they've got so much there it's worth
31:31
checking out if you haven't yet great so yeah
31:34
couches it sounds like these days they're better.
31:37
But i remember back then it was like you could i mean they had like 50
31:40
pound couch you thought excellent that's me the one but then you realize it's fit for
31:43
nothing you know it might be fit for one person who's five foot three and
31:45
weighs you know 40 kilos great but anyone above
31:48
below is forget it so okay i think the
31:51
best thing to do though is just read the reviews and you know do
31:54
your homework and ask around in some of the chat groups as well
31:57
but reviews normally give you a good indication of
32:00
how well the character's performing so again so
32:02
your sound is i couldn't hear any of that just repeat that if you could
32:05
sorry yeah no and just advise people to look
32:08
at the reviews before they buy oh the reviews yeah yeah yeah and
32:11
asking me other you know the support groups on facebook
32:14
what other people use and just just go with the word of mouth definitely
32:18
ask colleagues but now thanks to covid i mean
32:21
we do talk to each other much more we don't see if it's just competition so especially
32:24
if you belong to like a professional association as supportive
32:27
as the sta just reach out put something in the chat hey anybody i'm looking
32:31
for a new couch which has got this these attributes what do you recommend and
32:33
bam boom boom tried and tested by your colleagues so okay because of time what
32:39
about some of the things people have to look out for what about the dodgy parts of doing mobile work,
32:47
I think just like safeguarding yourself because you do not know where,
32:51
when I started I was 22 and I was so naive and you just go to people's houses,
32:56
even if you've chatted to them beforehand on the phone or get them to write
32:58
your forms, you do not know where you are going,
33:01
what these people are actually like.
33:04
I did a lot of work at night time as well. That's another factor.
33:07
I was a very young female. That's another factor that was not so great for myself.
33:12
So I think looking back, it was just making sure that you safeguard
33:16
yourself else you know where you go and someone knows where you are yeah
33:19
all kind of factors I think were really really important and
33:22
it's now why I only do mobile for clients I already know
33:25
or I already have rapport with or I know where they are because like I live
33:31
alone anyway so I could disappear and no one would know for probably a good
33:35
24 hours until someone texted didn't know where I was so I think making sure
33:40
you look after yourself is such a big one.
33:44
Having a partner or someone know where you are having
33:47
your location on your phones if people know where you are but
33:51
I think having that pre-screen chat with clients as well
33:54
is a really really important one so you know them
33:57
before or you at least spoke to them before you actually
34:00
rock up at their house with your massage table yeah I
34:03
mean there's some really good advice the Susie Lamplew Trust
34:06
website has got some really good advice on like loan working
34:09
because obviously yet you are wandering into someone's
34:12
house and like you say you don't know who they are and
34:15
they could be anyone so things like for example if
34:18
somebody has booked in and you're expecting to go and see someone
34:21
called I don't know Jane who's 25 and a
34:25
great big hairy bloke of 50 opens the door don't go
34:27
into the house until you've seen Jane and you know she's in there you know
34:30
things I used to do is always park to escape so reverse
34:34
your car onto the driveway I used to leave my
34:36
car are enough good advice that's just like yeah i
34:39
live in norfolk and no one wants to steal an ancient nissan micro for
34:42
some reason i don't know why they're great cars but nobody wanted it i always
34:45
have my car keys i had one of those like spirally springy key ring things do
34:50
you know the kind of things i mean that was attached to the handle of my bag
34:53
and then my keys were clipped to that and i used to leave the bag by the door
34:55
so i could just if i needed to walk out pick my bag up on the way out and be
34:59
straight out and in the car you know and things like always follow follow the client into the house,
35:04
don't have the client behind you, watch how they shut the door.
35:07
And it's stuff that it sounds really paranoid when you list it all out.
35:11
It sounds like, oh my God, you're just terrified of people. And it's not.
35:14
It's just being aware of your safety and being aware of where you are,
35:17
because like you said, you are walking into someone's house and you don't know
35:20
who they are until you get to know them.
35:22
So a little bit of awareness just makes you feel a lot safer.
35:26
I mean, I did, like I said, I did mobile for like a year and a bit.
35:29
I only had one bad experience with someone.
35:33
Which was a bit unfortunate. No harm done. It was just one of those things that
35:36
you think, oh, I'm not very happy
35:38
about that. I didn't like how that interaction went down kind of thing.
35:41
And to be honest when that did happen all of my
35:44
plans i'm just going to walk out the door i just froze up and then
35:47
completed the massage because that's what you
35:50
do you kind of socialize to do that but i
35:53
think if you've got your plan at least you have that
35:56
and you know where your stuff is and you kind of have the confidence okay there's
35:59
my keys i can just leave if i need to yeah we
36:03
that that freeze thing was something that was shared that there
36:06
was a there was a series of episodes episodes about safety and
36:09
in episode 75 which i recommend that
36:12
everyone listens to there is i think about
36:15
seven or eight female therapists who shared
36:18
their experiences and it was quite a shocking episode but
36:21
a real emotional important listen because some
36:24
people especially if you're younger and it and it
36:27
could happen to men and women any gender is everyone's
36:30
kind of like susceptible to it unfortunately these days but yeah when you hear
36:34
what has happened to other the people it makes you think oh jesus this could
36:37
happen to me it's not just something out of a novel or like a myth it's it's
36:42
it's quite incredible so i reckon you should and a few people did mention on
36:45
that yeah you freeze you know you just don't expect to be put into that,
36:50
situation and feel so vulnerable and it's kind of we talk about fight or flight this was just freeze,
36:55
so it's yeah shocking be prepared some brilliant ideas came out of that i mean
36:59
that that one of putting your car it sounds like paranoid but putting your car
37:02
the right way around so if you You have got to get out. Amazing. And the clip on keys.
37:06
Gary here, founder of the SDA, has put a few things in here as well.
37:10
Mentioned location is really important on your phone. That's good.
37:12
Have location services activated on your phone, either Snapchat or Apple.
37:15
I think these days there's more and more clever ways of doing shortcuts to even
37:20
just sending a text to your emergency number, pre-made text,
37:23
which could say, I need your help now. Come here.
37:26
And you just click it. I mean, even the other person might never know you've done it.
37:29
It so and also gary said let's just
37:32
read this out because gary's just a full of wisdom here although this is
37:35
a bit mansplaining but here we go when you get to someone's house phone your partner or
37:38
at least pretend to giving them your location and expected time that you've
37:41
finished then tell me your phone when you're leaving so little things like that
37:45
are so important facebook user here in case you do want your name and logo to
37:49
come up and click that link i said i agree if i do have a home visit with someone
37:53
you always tell two other people give address of client and time of appointment
37:55
and how long I'm meant to be there.
37:57
Definitely chat with client pre-appointment to get details also.
37:59
If the place sends alarm bells, I would probably leave. Yeah,
38:04
listening to your gut, I guess, is something...
38:07
Which a lot of people have yeah yeah I
38:10
got the feeling I'm just having common sense you know by the tone of
38:13
their texts or however they message you of what they're actually
38:16
after if you if you're constantly advertising that you
38:19
do I know relaxation massage or
38:22
remedial whatever it is and then they ask you the
38:25
same question again in the text it's almost
38:28
alarm bell straight away that they've not actually been following you
38:31
and seeing who you are and they're just chancing it
38:34
you know know for me it was you know am I
38:36
available that day can I do it was
38:39
almost out of my mileage area I always set myself a radius
38:42
and I never moved my boundaries to try
38:46
and get the diamond busy I still stuck to times a day that I wanted to work
38:51
the area I wanted to go to and I didn't distract from that just like I don't
38:56
another 40 50 pounds tonight I still stuck to my I found the one you You know,
39:03
the ones that were a little bit more dodgy were ones that were not necessarily my area.
39:08
All they wanted me there and then that day.
39:10
So I think you can tell a lot by their initial contact with you and then what
39:16
they're requesting from you.
39:17
You do get a really good feeling from it, I think, straight away.
39:21
And I always say go with that gut feeling, even if it sounds too good to be true.
39:26
You know, sometimes it is, you know, you've got to go with what really your
39:30
insides are telling you.
39:32
That's great great advice katie everyone else you're nodding
39:35
you it's a sentiment you'll share it looks like yeah
39:38
i think yeah i definitely had a few people
39:41
get in touch with me and sort of either in the texts or in the conversation
39:45
you're like no i'm not coming to see you i'm not coming to your house i think
39:49
the best one was the text i got from someone saying hello i am a bodybuilder
39:53
you're like great i live in this town with another bodybuilder i'm like okay
39:56
i didn't realize that That town was a haven of bodybuilding, but brilliant.
40:00
Could you come and massage us? Yes, possibly. We would like you to massage our
40:03
glutes. And we don't want you to wear any, we don't want any towels.
40:06
We just want to wear our speedos. I'm like, no, no, no. I think you can find
40:10
someone else to massage your bums and your speedos. Thank you very much.
40:15
At least they were up front. Yes. Yes. It can be said.
40:21
Yeah, they're shared all the time in groups, unfortunately. And people share
40:23
what sort of requests they get.
40:25
Yeah, it's very strange. but not taking any risks seems the best advice be careful,
40:30
Sorry, Matt. I think where you advertise for mobile, it's got to be slightly
40:33
different to where you advertise for your clinic as well.
40:35
Because before the Internet, when I was doing it, you know, it was free directory.
40:40
You wouldn't dream of putting yourself in a free directory. I think it just
40:44
doesn't go as well that you're a mobile massage therapist.
40:46
So just be sensible where you're advertising that you are protecting yourself
40:51
literally from even just putting your message out there.
40:55
Good point. times have moved on definitely
40:58
but you know if you want to go in
41:01
direct through being one that's you know a reputable one
41:04
that's you know specifically for massage therapists i've
41:07
seen a few of those around not just to randomly put
41:10
your poster for handout business cards like you
41:13
would do possibly for clinic work i think you've got to
41:15
look at how you're promoting yourself as well
41:18
i think one of the important messages that
41:21
also because we're going to move on to event end work shortly but one of the important messages
41:24
that came out from the time we spent with the episode
41:27
75 was if something does happen talk
41:31
about it share it okay don't keep it bottled up
41:34
inside because that's something which could be horrible as well if something does
41:37
happen and and you just don't talk about it that could be the
41:39
end of your career it could be tragic you can carry around with you forever so reach
41:43
out and talk to other people who you trust again professional association
41:46
would be really useful that's where basically that's what
41:49
you pay your money for i'm no gary and we've
41:53
got people at the sports association who are trained in that
41:55
who will talk to you it's all confidential so yeah reach out
41:58
and talk about it because it seems to me from what i've heard that people blend
42:02
themselves you start thinking did i do something to provoke this was i giving
42:05
off the wrong image and it's all those kind of same kind of thoughts that go
42:09
through your brain when nine times or 99 times out of 100 it wasn't you at all
42:13
you were totally the innocent party so So anyway, look at that.
42:18
We're already at 8.46 and we haven't moved on to event work.
42:22
Carla's there rubbing her eyes thinking, come on, let's do it.
42:24
Event work, I've got so much to share.
42:26
So yeah, okay. Well, so then we could have talked forever about mobile work,
42:30
but that's great. Some amazing tips, people, and some amazing points,
42:33
you know, some advice on what to watch out for.
42:35
I love the satisfaction you get out of it. I love the inclusivity you can give
42:39
people by going to their homes and stuff. I think that's a really important point.
42:43
Wonderful. Event work. suddenly we move over,
42:47
The pluses of event work? What have we got, people? Go on, Carly,
42:50
you go first. We've already kind of touched on the enjoyment factor.
42:52
What else can you get out of event work as a business?
42:55
I think it gives you the freedom to choose, to pick and choose what sort of
42:59
thing you like doing and what sort of thing you see a future in.
43:04
If there's a certain sport that you want to work in, you can sort of target that to sort of work.
43:10
Also, it gives you the choice of do you want to
43:13
work specifically with a team and do you
43:16
want to be just with one team or do you want to
43:19
work with as many people as possible
43:22
sort of like an independent therapist that anybody
43:25
can come and access at an event so there is
43:28
a lot more flexibility because you you control who you're seeing which events
43:33
you work what sports you're targeting and to a certain degree your income if
43:39
you're sort of setting it up for yourself you can say well this is what I'm
43:42
going to charge and people can either take it or leave it which.
43:47
Can be difficult if you're trying to set it up on your own and do things for yourself because,
43:52
you don't want to price yourself so cheaply that people go
43:55
hang on why are they so cheap but then
43:58
if you go too far the other way you're kind
44:01
of pricing yourself out and nobody would want to work with you so there
44:04
is a very fine line between the two
44:07
I think but definitely being able
44:10
to to choose who and when you work and dates and things
44:13
is a matter of course does it depend what
44:16
i mean in my neck of the woods there are
44:19
some people just taking the piss basically of how much they'll charge you
44:22
there's certain kind of online communities who would say oh you're
44:25
a sports massage therapist come and work for us we've got events
44:28
all over the place we'll pay you five pound an hour well if
44:30
it's a whole day we'll you know and it's like come on now a professional who's
44:33
trained for years at this so has anybody found that
44:36
you have to look around and there was a a chance of being taken
44:40
advantage of a little bit by companies or yeah
44:43
sure i've always looked at events i'd
44:46
love to do and be involved in events but i've seen that everything i
44:49
when i look at it's like hang on a minute you want me to
44:51
work a 12 hour day out of my
44:54
area for free yeah i mean to
44:59
be fair sometimes you have to do the
45:02
free work yeah to get to get the paid stuff
45:05
at the end and don't get me wrong event.
45:08
Days are so long and can
45:12
be absolutely exhausting and it does
45:15
take a kind of I would say a certain kind of
45:18
person that can sort of compartmentalize things and go right
45:21
I am going to be there for let's say 10 days I
45:24
know I'm going to be working 18 hour days for those 10 days and then I'm done
45:31
afterwards whereas if you're somebody that doesn't necessarily like long days
45:36
then I would say it's not necessarily something that you would enjoy.
45:43
But sometimes you don't know until you have a go. Can you make money out of it?
45:47
Can you make money out of it? Or is it more of a case of getting experience?
45:51
It's a great gig for students sometimes.
45:54
Even if you're not getting paid, you get experience, you get to network,
45:57
you get to talk to the organizers.
45:58
Or is there a way that you can actually make some decent money out of events
46:01
once you get a name to yourself?
46:04
I think so. I think once you've established yourself
46:07
and you have a good reputation and people
46:10
like you say you you are a brand at the end of the
46:13
day if you're working for yourself you're trying to sell yourself if you're
46:16
subcontracted by a company pick a
46:19
reputable company for starters don't just go with
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the first one that you find that you need to do your research on
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that company what are the people like that you're going to be working with and
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again it comes down to the sport and the
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event so each event will have a budget for
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medical cover and that will
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then be determined on how many because they
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will have to have a set number of paramedics a set number of physiotherapies
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a set number of doctors like that will
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determine how much the money is divvied
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up let's say and certain sports are.
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More lucrative than others so tennis for example
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has a shed load of money that can
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be really lucrative if you can get into tennis i i
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don't know much about football it's not really something that i've been interested
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in trying to get into but from what i've
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heard they have a lot of money but they don't like to
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spend it like they want to sort of undercut themselves and only charge people
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like say i will pay you eight pound an hour or whatever which so it's it's kind
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of do your research and see what you want to do sometimes it's just about getting
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your foot in the door so So you have to do those voluntary things and network
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and meet other people and like I say, build your reputation.
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And then that leads on to bigger and better things for you.
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Jump in, anyone. Is there anything that you avoid if you see an event advertised?
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Is there anything you avoid or things that you think you're not going to get
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involved with that at all?
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Sometimes it will be the sport, and it will depend on what they're advertising a role as. Yeah.
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So if there is something like... I've
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kind of avoided things like BMX biking at the moment because if somebody comes
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off a bike that is very much more of a medical role but some events I do dual
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role so I do do that kind of medical thing but if I'm looking and going do you know what,
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I don't want to be dealing with 50 people coming off on the same corner or anything
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like that I might sort of step back from that event and be a bit more in what
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I would call my comfort zone so So swimming, tennis,
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netball, those kind of things.
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But then being at a multi-sport event is great because you can travel around
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to big things like Commonwealth Games, for example.
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But those opportunities are not always paid for the multi-sport things.
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It kind of you have to decide
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what you like as a person and know what you want
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to achieve from it and what you want to do really if
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it's a company that are advertising that they want people to sort of subcontract
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for them i would do my research on that company first and see what the reviews
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are like if they're offering to pay you have they paid the last people that
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worked for them like Like there's nothing wrong with doing your research like
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that and saying, actually, do you know what?
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They haven't paid someone that works for them to events a girl.
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I'm not touching them with large problems.
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Like reputation is massive in event work.
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I found events. I mean, I'm biased. It's all my events. Actually,
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I've done rugby tournaments, but mainly it's been marathons and half marathons.
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And I used to put people together and you wouldn't make much money out of it.
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But it was a great opportunity. if you're doing a local marathon let's imagine
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there's six seven thousand people going to brighton marathon or something cards
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giving out your cards you know you're spending time with the runners and you're
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giving them a card at the end so in theory you are like giving your
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you know you're distributing your cards to the actual exact people you know
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you it's not like putting a thing on facebook and hitting somebody in glasgow
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or something when you live in brighton you really are getting the locals so
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i've always seen it as a way of a great way probably the best way of advertising
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going to an event especially if it's you know local people attending it,
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because you can they're going to love you you know you're going to give them
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a great treatment they're going to say oh that was amazingly local and bam so
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i see it as an advertising thing to get out there.
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Listening to Carla is very inspiring and it makes you think,
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wow, you know, you can get a passion, you can choose.
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I never thought of other sports and things, but for people like Chloe and Hannah,
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does it make you think, actually, I might look in some events and maybe pop
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my head around and see, should I get involved?
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I mean, I've done a couple of events. I did one where it was actually somebody
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else I know was approached by a race organising company to say,
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oh, do you want to come and do Sportsmaster.race?
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Race it was like a fairly small local well it
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was a series of kind of 10ks i think it was that they did all
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around the kind of east anglia do you know anyone else though
51:03
we both went along and we were
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both a little bit annoyed because the marshals were all getting paid and we
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weren't and it's like hang on a minute the marshals are getting paid to win that's crazy
51:12
i mean they're only getting paid like a tenner but that is not the
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point it was we were quite annoyed but the
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other one that i've done which was a little bit different was actually someone i
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know did a wellness day so she had
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lots of people they were in a field they did yoga and lots
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of different cold water therapy and then she got
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me to go along and do taster massages for which I got
51:32
paid but then also I thought nothing of it and then I've literally just had
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someone book in six months later who I saw at that day and she's just come booked
51:41
in so that was worth doing and that was really good fun I really enjoyed that
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day I did like doing the event that I did I enjoyed the experience of doing it,
51:50
but I like doing the slightly slower paced, more gentle 10-15 minute.
51:57
Neck and shoulder type massage that i was doing because i
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had time to talk to all those different people and sort of tailor every little
52:03
treatment to them and i yeah i really like that so i quality a bit more of that
52:07
even though it's not quite a sporting event it was really good yeah one of our
52:13
guests lucy williamson nutritionist does a lot of those wellness days and she works with david,
52:19
jacko jackson as well who is into the breath work and yeah together they've got this thing called,
52:25
oh damn it root from the root or something
52:28
but it's all about restoring kind of working with nature and
52:32
eating well and doing you know a
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lot of meditation and yoga and and yeah they have massage things they say yeah
52:37
a great great great networking opportunity as well and like you say six months
52:41
later somebody gives you a call nice way of looking at it right look it's 8
52:46
58 so i'm conscious of time we have lost katie i'm afraid but then the sound was going out anyway so.
52:55
Anything else about event work i mean i think we've mentioned it
52:58
can be really rewarding you need to do your homework and look around good
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for networking but great for students i believe
53:04
i think you really have to put your time in some people complain that i'm
53:07
not going to pay but what a great if you're at an event where you're
53:10
having to do your 50 minutes it can be really hard work but great
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experience for practicing i think it's uh i always
53:16
love taking teams to the the marathons and things and working that out so we've
53:19
got a comment here from facebook user sorry facebook user i'm not sure who you
53:22
are it's probably someone i know but um you said i thoroughly enjoy doing event
53:25
work here and there some paid i'm ann bolton and some voluntary commonwealth
53:29
games great opportunity to network with other therapists pick up useful tips
53:32
not many new clients as a result despite giving.
53:35
Despite giving out cards but mainly positive experiences oh
53:38
there's nicola hey caramel health nicola how you doing sorry it's
53:41
because you just need to click that belive link and then your name will come up
53:44
hope you're well nicola yeah i mean i think it depends
53:47
i think if you're going to an event which is in your hometown then great
53:50
if you're traveling up somewhere else like i'm not
53:52
sure if you're from bolton but yeah if you're going somewhere then the
53:55
cards aren't going to be quite as useful but yeah in your own
53:58
neck it's worth doing yeah your own neck of the
54:00
woods worth worth doing some event work right then look
54:04
at that 859 so we blasted through
54:07
that pretty sure we've given out some great information i'll
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say that like it was me you guys are giving out some great information so
54:13
thank you very much for that um as always if people are interested
54:16
in they've got more questions the best place probably to go
54:19
is youtube that's the best place to leave comments um because
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it's just there forever and it'll show up in google and i'm.
54:25
Always keeping an eye on it so if you've got any other questions about either mobile
54:28
work or event work head to the sports therapy association youtube channel
54:31
and stick the comments in there and i will make sure they're
54:34
answered i will let people know if you're directing towards one of our
54:37
guests and just to let you know once again who you've
54:40
been listening to tonight best way of
54:42
reaching people let's just go down the list and say ask what
54:46
people should do if they want to get hold of you so carla if
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people want to contact you is it best through facebook or instagram
54:53
um just either either facebook or instagram
54:56
through my business page probably brilliant them
54:59
so and that's both sports massage by carla isn't it yeah they're
55:02
both them yeah very nice fantastic great and then hannah
55:05
if people want to contact you instagram you on as well and the website probably
55:08
instagram and facebook as well and i think i am at hannah tabram sports massage
55:13
therapy i'm just gonna have to look that up i can't remember it's it's been
55:18
a long day i don't know what way it's been yeah if you put hannah tabram smt
55:24
in then i will come up on instagram Instagram.
55:26
Fantastic. I like on your web page. I'm pretty sure I'm just going to bring
55:28
up some YouTube screenshots here of your website. Even at the top of your web
55:32
page, it's got the email address there. Hello at.
55:34
Yeah. So that's that's a really nice idea as well. Just at the top.
55:37
I highly recommend when you start your business, if you are married to someone
55:40
who builds websites for a living, I do recommend that as a way to start a business.
55:45
It's very, very, very useful.
55:47
He will be very pleased. Excellent. But
55:50
you just have to watch out what their footwear is like when
55:53
they're when they're drilling in the garden but that's yes don't trust
55:56
them to choose their own footwear yeah great so
56:00
i'm just putting up the screen for those of you who have joined us live there's um people love
56:03
seeing websites i've had emails saying oh it was really nice when you showed other people's
56:06
websites gives us ideas so there's that's hannah's website there
56:09
which is like i say hannah tabram.co.uk
56:14
also i'm just going to go back a second to carla's wonderful wonderful Facebook
56:19
header look at that I mean that is just like event city so much on there and
56:24
it shows association with other companies as well which is really cool it just
56:27
shows how much you can make your Facebook work for you.
56:31
Really nice, really nice use of Facebook there, Carla. So yeah, good job there.
56:35
That should inspire a few people. If you listen to the podcast,
56:37
I recommend you do go along to YouTube and have a look towards the end of the show.
56:41
Well, this is the whole thing, but have a look at the end of the show and you'll
56:43
see some great examples of visuals there.
56:45
There and then also we have got the move
56:48
well soft tissue therapy up here from katie evans which is a lovely website
56:52
as well loads of information on there great visuals very commendable and also
56:56
we got about the cr which i love it's just so it's just great it's very infectious
57:00
cr being obviously chloe reynolds uh chloe people can reach you on instagram can't they see us.
57:06
There's any socials at cr sports massage yeah brilliant great and also the thing
57:11
i love i mean Chloe's got the STA logo on there as well.
57:15
Use the STA logo, people. We really have got a good rep amongst allied health professionals.
57:20
We really are forming an integral part of multidisciplinary care.
57:25
People are listening to us. They're loving the stuff we do at Therapy Expo and
57:28
they're respecting our members because they know that it's coming from an evidence-based
57:32
background, that we're up training and learning that we can spot the red flags.
57:38
We can help refer people out for often
57:41
undiagnosed symptoms so now is the time more
57:44
than ever to flaunt your sta logo logo and
57:47
if you need any advice on that then obviously just email gary at the sta.co.uk
57:50
or matt at the sta.co.uk or just have a go to the members community or the coffee
57:55
chats we talk all about websites and things like that there and then also just
58:00
having a little look here i know that was it that's all the websites i've had
58:02
so katie i think is back katie if people People want to contact you or have a look at your.
58:08
I'm sure Katie did join us, didn't she? Is she here somewhere?
58:11
Maybe not she came and went she's in the chat oh she's
58:14
in the chat there we go i didn't see it okay um if people do want to listen
58:17
to katie and wants to contact there then i would go along like i say to movewellsoftissuetherapy.co.uk
58:23
is the best place there's all links to everything there fantastic let's see
58:28
your faces again right thanks people for joining us live much appreciated,
58:32
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