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Speaker 3: Good morning.
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Speaker 5: Hope everybody had a happy and safe New Year if
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Speaker 5: you're into that sort of thing. So our celebrations go
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Speaker 5: coming up a little bit later on the show. TJ
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Speaker 5: Meadows is here.
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Speaker 3: Of course.
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Speaker 5: TJ, along with Dave Wilson, will be taking over the
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Speaker 5: TJ about that, plus some other things in the news.
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Speaker 5: Course on the national front. The big story, the horrific
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Speaker 5: killing early New Year's morning, around three am on Bourbon
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Speaker 5: several others injured. TJ and I will delve in to
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Speaker 5: that story a little bit later on. Plus some other
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Speaker 5: things in the news. More more local and statewide stuff
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Speaker 5: zero zero eight. Now we have this sky scheduled to
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Speaker 5: be on the show last week, but some things came up.
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Speaker 5: But the reschedule, man, I tell you, timing could not
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Speaker 5: be better because the weather, particularly as we head from
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Speaker 5: Sunday into Monday and into all of next week, seems
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Speaker 5: like it's on everybody's mind. We'll get to that a
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Speaker 5: little bit later on. I do want to bring in
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Speaker 5: now Brian Hughes from Storm Tracker thirteen. Mister Hughes, good morning.
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Speaker 6: Well, good morning, Dave. How's your New Years starting off?
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Speaker 5: Everything's good so far, no complaints when I had you
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Speaker 5: scheduled Brian last week. Originally I thought we just talked
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Speaker 5: a little bit about the year that was twenty twenty
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Speaker 5: four as far as the weather goes, maybe a brief
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Speaker 5: preview of the winter of twenty twenty five. However, since
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Speaker 5: that time, we got some major weather news, particularly Sunday
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Speaker 5: and THENTO Monday, really all through all next week.
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Speaker 3: I will get to that a little bit.
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Speaker 5: Later on, I promise, but I do want to do
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Speaker 5: what I originally set out to do, and that was
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Speaker 5: to talk to you about the weather. Let's go back
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Speaker 5: to twenty twenty four. It seems like it was so
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Speaker 5: long ago, Brian, the year that was twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 5: But the big weather stories of twenty twenty four in
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Speaker 5: West Virginia and our part of the world, with the drought,
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Speaker 5: the tornado outbreak in April.
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Speaker 3: Comment on that, you.
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Speaker 7: Know what, the drought was one of the worst ones
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Speaker 7: we've seen in thirty five years. And lo and behold,
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Speaker 7: the new update from the drought folks who do this
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Speaker 7: reporting and such is that we are now out of
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Speaker 7: the drought.
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Speaker 6: So that says this morning, that's brand new information. We
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Speaker 6: absolutely love that.
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Speaker 7: But the drought was you know significant, you would be
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Speaker 7: amazed at how political what yes' exactly how political those
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Speaker 7: drought boundaries are because it all determines how much money
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Speaker 7: gets from the USDA.
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Speaker 6: And payments and this and that, and it is people.
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Speaker 7: Call and yell at the National Weather Service if they
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Speaker 7: get marked out of the drought.
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Speaker 3: I think you and I talked about that.
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Speaker 5: I don't mean to laugh about that, but everything, everything
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Speaker 5: is political these days. Not only get to that with
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Speaker 5: you a little bit later on, but now I think
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Speaker 5: you and I talked about that once before.
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Speaker 3: You know that it is.
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Speaker 5: It is indeed very political. So let's talk about the
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Speaker 5: winter of twenty twenty five, not in the next couple
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Speaker 5: of days. I mean, just in in general, how are
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Speaker 5: you and Spencer and Chris and the fine folks at
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Speaker 5: storm Track at thirteen, how are you seeing the overall
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Speaker 5: winter season coming up?
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Speaker 7: We're looking at it as just at average or just
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Speaker 7: above average as far as precipitation is concerned. There's nothing
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Speaker 7: that screams that we're going to have just this insane winter.
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Speaker 7: But you know, when you combine that with the fact
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Speaker 7: that we are going to be a touch colder than normal,
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Speaker 7: you know that just automatically lends itself to being able
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Speaker 7: to produce touch more snow than normal. So we're looking
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Speaker 7: at that below normal on temperatures on average for the season,
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Speaker 7: and then touch above normal on a precipitation at or
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Speaker 7: just above normal precipitation. But you know, once we you know,
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Speaker 7: get into tomorrow with the snow showers, then eventually this
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Speaker 7: weekend and the next week storm system, everybody's going to think, wow,
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Speaker 7: this is a crazy winter already.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean overall you're saying it is going
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Speaker 5: to be colder with above average participant participation precipitation one
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Speaker 5: of those words, one of those words, it's good, good thing.
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Speaker 5: I'll talk for a living. So I understand that we
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Speaker 5: have a small clipper system that's going to move through
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Speaker 5: the area, not really a whole lot for our part
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Speaker 5: of the world, like late tonight and tomorrow morning. Is
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Speaker 5: that right, I mean, in this initial clipper.
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Speaker 7: System, Yeah, it's it's just a standard clip hpper that
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Speaker 7: can produce anywhere from a dust thing to an inch.
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Speaker 6: You get in eastern parts.
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Speaker 7: Of Kanawk County and you're looking at maybe you know,
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Speaker 7: one to two inches worth of the snow. So that's
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Speaker 7: something that we're looking at. But it's going to hit
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Speaker 7: you know, early in the morning, but also it's going
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Speaker 7: to move through as we get you know, about this time,
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Speaker 7: we'll have snow shares that will be coming down, some
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Speaker 7: sow squalls, and as we get into the afternoon, it
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Speaker 7: moves on off to the east and then it's confined
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Speaker 7: to the mountains. But that just lays the groundwork for
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Speaker 7: you know, freezing the ground back up and things getting
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Speaker 7: hardened up and ready for the next storm system over
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Speaker 7: the weekend.
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Speaker 5: And that's the one that everybody's talking about. So and
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Speaker 5: I know it's early because people want you know, I
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Speaker 5: love it on social media where people go after you
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Speaker 5: guys and all the other ones saying, well, exactly how
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Speaker 5: much snow is Ravens wouldn't gonna get how much am
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Speaker 5: I going to get in cabin creek or whatever? Well,
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Speaker 5: it's it's way too early for that. But the bottom
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Speaker 5: line is that no matter where you're listening to us today,
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Speaker 5: unless you're like one of our regular listeners who listens.
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Speaker 3: To Florida, that gal will probably be okay.
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Speaker 5: But here in the but here, in this area, Brian,
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Speaker 5: we are talking about a major, major weather event starting
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Speaker 5: what midday on Sunday.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, about midday on Sunday. And here's how this pans out.
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Speaker 7: You know, we are going to get snow. We are
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Speaker 7: going to see snow accumulate, but we're also going to
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Speaker 7: see it just ripped away from us as what we
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Speaker 7: call the warm wedge of air that rides up essentially
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Speaker 7: a quarter or G one nineteen and up by seventy nine.
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Speaker 7: If you literally just followed Pikefield to Williamson to La
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Speaker 7: the Logan area. Yeah, Madison, Charles sitting back up the
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Speaker 7: you know Sutton up to Clarksburg.
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Speaker 6: That is the warm wedge of air.
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Speaker 7: It rides on the northern side of the mountain chain
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Speaker 7: and it just gets drawn in by a southwest wind.
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Speaker 7: And so what's going to happen is that will win
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Speaker 7: the day, but it will start Sunday.
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Speaker 6: Afternoon and evening as snow. We could get three or four,
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Speaker 6: maybe even five inches worth.
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Speaker 7: Of snow maybe, you know, before it's all said and
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Speaker 7: done Sunday evening. And then Sunday night, you know, then
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Speaker 7: the warmer air moves in, takes over and just cuts it.
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Speaker 7: But what's going to hap happen is we'll get some
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Speaker 7: sleep we'll get freezing rain. And if we get freezing
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Speaker 7: rain for a couple of hours, that lends itself to
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Speaker 7: power lines, you know, being touched by trees that are sagging,
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Speaker 7: things that nature. So that's something we have to watch
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Speaker 7: for a Sunday evening and night, and then going into
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Speaker 7: Monday morning, we could well just have plane of wet streets,
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Speaker 7: cold wet streets on you know, Monday morning, but then
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Speaker 7: followed by Monday afternoon snow on the backside of the
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Speaker 7: system moving through and much colder air moving in. And
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Speaker 7: this is such a big storm system. It is going
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Speaker 7: to be drawing very cold air from the Great White
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Speaker 7: North into our region that will last into the rest
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Speaker 7: of the week, and the week in inauguration is going
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Speaker 7: to be a very very cold day.
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Speaker 5: And again I think that's whatever everybody always gets hung
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Speaker 5: up on, well how many inches of snow are we
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Speaker 5: going to get? How many inches? And sometimes it's not
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Speaker 5: about that. I mean, what you're telling me is is
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Speaker 5: that once we get when that wedge sets in and
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Speaker 5: we get the freezing rain and then we get snow
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Speaker 5: on top of that, it is bottom line, going to
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Speaker 5: be a mess driving Sunday into Monday.
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Speaker 7: Right, and that's that's what we're looking at more than anything,
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Speaker 7: is that you know there's going to be across the state,
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Speaker 7: across the region, the majority of our schools will be canceled,
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Speaker 7: probably going into Monday, because if they if it's not
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Speaker 7: a problem on Monday morning, you know, at six o'clock,
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Speaker 7: seven o'clock, as these buses are out and getting kids
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Speaker 7: to school, it'll we have a problem for the after
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Speaker 7: eatings getting the kids back home. So that Monday will
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Speaker 7: probably be a winter weather day. We can't call it
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Speaker 7: a snow dange entirely because of all the mix of it,
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Speaker 7: but it'll be a similar to you know probably.
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Speaker 6: You know learning at home, homebound learning or whatever they
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Speaker 6: call it these days.
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Speaker 7: Now, as we go into Tuesday, though, you know, we
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Speaker 7: see the temperature shopping, there'll be some lingering slick spots
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Speaker 7: that will probably delays on Tuesday morning. But then we
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Speaker 7: just get cold in the next week. But yeah, Sunday,
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Speaker 7: once you're hunkered down, you know about two three o'clock
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Speaker 7: in the afternoon, there's no need to come back out
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Speaker 7: for the rest of the night until maybe Monday.
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Speaker 3: How to text here for you, Brian, And I know you're busy.
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you go.
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Speaker 5: But tech says ask Brian, if humans are contributing to
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Speaker 5: global climate change? You love to talk about this stuff,
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Speaker 5: mister Hughes, are humans Are we responsible?
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Speaker 4: Brian?
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Speaker 6: We're not responsible for it all. We are contributing to
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Speaker 6: the mess.
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Speaker 8: But if you if you go back and you look
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Speaker 8: at you could go back and look at Arctic.
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Speaker 7: Ice cores and you're gonna see periods of melting.
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Speaker 6: You're going to see periods of warming. And this can
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Speaker 6: be determined by literally.
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Speaker 7: Taking a core of ice that you know could go
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Speaker 7: one hundred feet deep and next thing you know, you
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Speaker 7: can see that.
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Speaker 6: So we do have cycles?
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Speaker 7: Do we have we contributed to that with a you know,
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Speaker 7: a you know, a burning of this and that.
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Speaker 8: And extra stuff fossil feel things like that, of.
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Speaker 6: Course, but not to the amount that is going to
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Speaker 6: cause complete alarm and we're all going to die. You know.
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Speaker 6: The the extreme.
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Speaker 7: Alarmist stuff is something I'm not I'm not a believer in, but.
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Speaker 6: I do know that things have changed. It's just it
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Speaker 6: is a part of life.
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Speaker 7: If you're going to burn a whole bunch of stuff,
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Speaker 7: whether it be the Amazon and take trees out like that,
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Speaker 7: you are going to have some things that are going
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Speaker 7: to suffer. But the one thing that the Earth is
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Speaker 7: very good about is replacing things constantly and cycling through things,
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Speaker 7: and where one thing goes bad, it fixes things on another.
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Speaker 7: That's also why we say when you have areas of
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Speaker 7: little pressure, there's big massive storm systems, there's big massive
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Speaker 7: areas high high pressure somewhere on the other side of
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Speaker 7: the globe that is equally equalizing things out.
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Speaker 6: The Earth does repair itself, you know, it's a global warming.
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Speaker 7: Climate change is controversial in regards to a political sense
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Speaker 7: and what you believe, but as far as we're concerned
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Speaker 7: as a scientific perspective, yes we've contributed, but it's also repairable.
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Speaker 5: And I will say, if you don't follow Brian Hughes
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Speaker 5: and all the people at storm Track or thirteen on
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Speaker 5: social media, you should because Brian from time to time
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Speaker 5: has been known to jostle a little bit back and
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Speaker 5: forth with people on social You got to stop doing that, Brian.
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Speaker 6: Well yeah, and this is what drives me crazy.
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Speaker 7: By the way, just so you know, our kids that
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Speaker 7: are anywhere from about the mid twenties on down sometimes
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Speaker 7: even in the low thirties, they don't have a clue
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Speaker 7: where they live on a map.
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Speaker 6: And he's fascinating to me.
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Speaker 7: And so when they go, well what about, like you
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Speaker 7: said earlier, you know what about at my house it's
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Speaker 7: Ravenswood or in you know you know who.
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Speaker 6: Knows Pike fol or Ironton.
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Speaker 7: Well guess what if you can't read the map, We've
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Speaker 7: got bigger issues and now you should not worry about
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Speaker 7: how much you're going to get.
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Speaker 5: It's not just the kids, Brian. I saw a comment
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Speaker 5: on your social media about an hour ago when somebody
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Speaker 5: and this was this lady looking at her picture. She
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Speaker 5: was not a kid, Brian. She was an older lady
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Speaker 5: who wanted to know specifically about a particular town and
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Speaker 5: is like, you can't look at the map and you
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Speaker 5: can't see it.
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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't.
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Speaker 5: I don't get that, and I don't understand why people
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Speaker 5: want to argue with scientists over science stuff.
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Speaker 8: You know, Oh, it fascinates me. And and by the way,
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Speaker 8: just see you. I said it on Facebook a couple
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Speaker 8: of times. Somebody is like, oh, this is wrong, It's
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Speaker 8: not gonna happen. I'm like, just you know, my batting
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Speaker 8: average is above nine hundred. So's let's move along here.
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Speaker 8: Your joke about being right fifty percent of the time
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Speaker 8: is funny because guess what I get paid tomorrow.
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Speaker 3: You go right.
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Speaker 5: We're lucky to have you here bad in the valley,
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Speaker 5: and not only for the weather stuff that you do,
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Speaker 5: but also everything you do in the community. I appreciate
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Speaker 5: you being here. Bottom line is we'll ending on this
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Speaker 5: is just keep eye on the weather because it is
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Speaker 5: gonna get really nasty one way or the other. We
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Speaker 5: we can't We're not saying at this point exactly how much.
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Speaker 5: But again, don't think just snow and inches. Let's think
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Speaker 5: about ice and things of that nature. So it is
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Speaker 5: going to be a rough as you said, about midday
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Speaker 5: Sunday through Monday at least, and then after that it's
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Speaker 5: just going to be cold as you know what, so
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Speaker 5: appreciate it.
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Speaker 7: And by the way, hey, just so you know, first
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Speaker 7: three weeks of January are gonna be really cold.
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Speaker 6: Then we're gonna have that January thaw that week four,
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Speaker 6: and then we'll go back to cold in February. But hey,
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Speaker 6: it is winter. It's supposed to do.
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Speaker 3: That's what it does, all right, Brian, I appreciate it. Man,
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Speaker 3: thanks a lot.
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Speaker 6: Sounds good.
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Speaker 5: Tex says my home was flooded from a one hundred
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Speaker 5: year flood intensified by climate change. I'm glad this was
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Speaker 5: balanced out by a one hundred year drought in Colorado.
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Speaker 5: Hooray for balance as a texture. We're gonna take a break.
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Speaker 5: So I do have an issue with people that come
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Speaker 5: Revenue Secretary Larry Pack on the show today talking about
19:14
Speaker 5: the new state revenue numbers. Also as we talk about
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Speaker 5: the national economy as well, Hoppy, of course we'll delve
19:20
Speaker 5: into the terror attack in New Orleans. A huge win
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Speaker 5: Tony Careedy on to talk about that, plus your calls
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Speaker 5: last time that I'll be allowed to say. Talk Line
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Speaker 5: with Hopey KIRCHBLL ten O six this morning, and come
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19:42
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Speaker 5: more day after today to catch Hoppy on Talkline. When
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Speaker 5: will hear in the host chair will be those of
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Speaker 5: Dave Wilson and the gentleman across the table from me now,
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Speaker 5: TJ Meadows, TJ, good morning, welcome to the show.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. It's great to be here,
20:10
Speaker 3: for being here. I don't think Hobby's going to hang
20:11
Speaker 3: it up, by the way. I think he'll change his
20:13
Speaker 3: mind and he'll probably say that on Friday. And look,
20:15
Speaker 3: they've hired me, so they're stuck with me. Now. I'll
20:17
Speaker 3: just come in here and ramp with you every day.
20:19
Speaker 3: There you go, we'll call it to win. There you go,
20:20
Speaker 3: There you go we can, you know, use somebody to
20:22
Speaker 3: drive the vans around and put up the town. I
20:24
Speaker 3: don't have too many points on my license. I think
20:26
Speaker 3: I qualify.
20:27
Speaker 5: So I'm n's talk about this call up that you,
20:30
Speaker 5: you and Wilson got to take over talk Line from
20:33
Speaker 5: the Goat starting on Monday.
20:36
Speaker 3: You know, surreal because you talk about talk Line with
20:40
Speaker 3: Hobby Kerchieval. It's kind of like Kleenex, right, everybody says
20:42
Speaker 3: it's band Aid clean X happy, and you know, talk
20:47
Speaker 3: Line is a creation of Hoppy Kerchieval. It is. It
20:52
Speaker 3: is Hobby Kerchieval and what he does. I first started
20:55
Speaker 3: working for this company. I think it was eighteen or
20:56
Speaker 3: nineteen back in the day. I was an night time
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Speaker 3: DJ on one O two w V a Q of
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Speaker 3: Morgantown and had interned here in Charleston a little bit.
21:08
Speaker 2: Uh.
21:08
Speaker 3: But to get to work around a guy like that
21:11
Speaker 3: and just shut up and learn and see what he
21:15
Speaker 3: does and how he does it, and his pursuit of
21:18
Speaker 3: excellence in what he does. You can't fake that. You
21:22
Speaker 3: can't do that at the level he does it unless
21:24
Speaker 3: you're extremely passionate about what you do. And he's been
21:28
Speaker 3: a great teacher for I know everybody in this building
21:31
Speaker 3: and countless, countless many more that have gone on to
21:33
Speaker 3: other places and done other things. So it will always
21:37
Speaker 3: be talk Line, and it will always be Hoppy. It's
21:39
Speaker 3: kind of like one of those things in the back
21:41
Speaker 3: of your mind when you hear talk line, you should
21:42
Speaker 3: you should automatically put in created by Hoppy Kerchive. I
21:46
Speaker 3: like that. I laugh at that, but I know it is.
21:48
Speaker 3: It's it's it's a credit and it's it's deserved. And
21:52
Speaker 3: so the challenge that Wilson and I are going to
21:55
Speaker 3: face is keeping the Kerchival standard. But we're both, i
22:00
Speaker 3: would say, students of Hobby Kerchival. We talked about Monday,
22:03
Speaker 3: what are we going to do Monday, and both of
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Speaker 3: us instantly said, we're gonna come out and dow talk
22:07
Speaker 3: Line the way Hobby's always done it, and focus on
22:09
Speaker 3: the show and the issues and the listeners, and we'll
22:13
Speaker 3: give it our darntess every day to do that.
22:15
Speaker 5: And of course, so you guys got a little bit
22:17
Speaker 5: of a trial run a couple of weeks ago when
22:19
Speaker 5: Hockey was on vacation, but this Monday you'll go for real.
22:22
Speaker 5: And what a time to be taking over. I mean,
22:25
Speaker 5: so many changes going on. I mean it starts in
22:28
Speaker 5: the White House. Everything that's old is new again. New
22:31
Speaker 5: US Senator and Jim Justin, new governor and Patrick Morrison.
22:34
Speaker 5: Now none of these names are new to West Virginia
22:37
Speaker 5: as far as political the political arena, but you got
22:40
Speaker 5: new leadership in the Senate, new Senate president, and the
22:42
Speaker 5: legislature will be gabbling in only to gabble out and
22:45
Speaker 5: then come back. You got it's a great time to
22:47
Speaker 5: be coming in with everything new.
22:48
Speaker 3: It is and it's exciting times. And that's what you
22:51
Speaker 3: want if you do a show like talk line. You know,
22:53
Speaker 3: talk line, let's talk about what talk line isn't. In
22:56
Speaker 3: my mind, talk line is not what you hear from.
23:01
Speaker 3: And I'm not knocking these folks, but it's not a
23:03
Speaker 3: rush all the rushes is certainly has his place. It's
23:08
Speaker 3: not a Hannity, It's not a Bongino in that the
23:12
Speaker 3: opinion of the host and the host is pontificating for
23:15
Speaker 3: two hours. It's about an ongoing debate pro con independent
23:23
Speaker 3: both sides of the fence, what people think, and how
23:26
Speaker 3: that narrative comes together and that debate comes together to
23:30
Speaker 3: make West Virginia better. So when you do a show
23:33
Speaker 3: like that, you want interesting things to talk about, You
23:36
Speaker 3: want to explore things, and frankly, as a host, I
23:40
Speaker 3: think you want to go into it with an open
23:42
Speaker 3: mind and you don't necessarily want to always have an
23:47
Speaker 3: opinion on things. You want to form that opinion over
23:48
Speaker 3: time based on the debate that you have with your
23:50
Speaker 3: guests and the debate that you have with your listeners.
23:53
Speaker 3: And that's a good word. Debates a wonderful word, and you.
23:55
Speaker 5: Can learn a lot from your listeners. I mean, I've
23:57
Speaker 5: been doing this show for four years and there are
24:01
Speaker 5: every day I get a call or a text or
24:03
Speaker 5: something that's well, I really hadn't thought about it that way.
24:06
Speaker 5: Maybe it doesn't always necessarily change your mind, but at
24:09
Speaker 5: least it's a different way of looking at things. And
24:13
Speaker 5: politics is now TJ, as you well know, has become
24:16
Speaker 5: so national and the listeners have heard me use this
24:19
Speaker 5: are probably tired of me using this expression. But you
24:21
Speaker 5: can't run for assessor in Wetzel County without saying, well,
24:24
Speaker 5: a vote for John Smith is a vote for Joe Biden,
24:27
Speaker 5: or it's a vote for Donald Trump or whatever, you know,
24:29
Speaker 5: because that's just where we are. Comparing contrast that to
24:34
Speaker 5: how it was when Hoppy started doing talk line years ago.
24:37
Speaker 5: I mean, there was some talk obviously, because there's some
24:39
Speaker 5: big stories of that time, Bill Clinton and you know,
24:42
Speaker 5: I'm just things come off the top of my head,
24:44
Speaker 5: but primarily the focus was on West Virginia and it
24:47
Speaker 5: still is the majority of the show.
24:50
Speaker 3: Okay, but there's.
24:51
Speaker 5: Still a lot of there's a lot more national stuff
24:54
Speaker 5: than what there is now because again, more people because
24:56
Speaker 5: of social media, because of Fox News, because of CNN. Uh,
25:01
Speaker 5: these national entities that have pretty much served as a
25:05
Speaker 5: mouthpiece for one side or the other. Now people are
25:10
Speaker 5: more plugged in, which is good, but it's also bad
25:14
Speaker 5: because there's a lot of misinformation being thrown out there
25:18
Speaker 5: as well.
25:18
Speaker 3: Your take, well, Dave Drama sells, I think, and I
25:22
Speaker 3: would argue that a lot of the outlets you talked
25:24
Speaker 3: about social media, especially you know that that's infotainment. Yeah,
25:29
Speaker 3: and you know you have to sell that. Whereas I
25:31
Speaker 3: think what what Metro News has done under people like
25:35
Speaker 3: like Hoppy and Dale Miller. You know, you can't leave
25:39
Speaker 3: Dale Miller out of the conversation when you talk about
25:41
Speaker 3: Metro News and what it stands for. And what it's
25:43
Speaker 3: programming has become. He was, you know, former president and
25:47
Speaker 3: CEO of the company, basically grew the company from a
25:49
Speaker 3: couple of radio stations up until what it is now,
25:51
Speaker 3: and was a wonderful programmer, genius programmer. This company has
25:56
Speaker 3: intentionally stayed away from that, and we still focus on
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Speaker 3: news at the heart of everything and educating a listener,
26:04
Speaker 3: not just to entertain them. Yes we entertain, but we
26:07
Speaker 3: do it in a way that doesn't you know, dismiss facts.
26:10
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, my goal is to
26:12
Speaker 3: frame a story correctly so that all sides of that
26:15
Speaker 3: story are exposed and a listener, as an independent person,
26:19
Speaker 3: can decide what he or she wants to think based
26:21
Speaker 3: on the information that we give them. You know, Steyirwalt
26:24
Speaker 3: said the other day on talk line. I thought it
26:26
Speaker 3: was quite brilliant. He said, you know, I want to
26:28
Speaker 3: be boring because if I'm being boring and I'm providing
26:31
Speaker 3: news to people and I'm educating them and they have
26:34
Speaker 3: the information they need to decide what they think, especially
26:38
Speaker 3: when they show up at a voting booth, I'm doing
26:39
Speaker 3: my job and there's something to be said for that.
26:41
Speaker 3: And that's what I hope that we continue to do here.
26:43
Speaker 3: We're not about clickbait, and I don't think we ever
26:45
Speaker 3: will be talking to t J. Meadows.
26:47
Speaker 5: And by the way, Dave Wilson will be the other
26:50
Speaker 5: half of that do Dave does a show similar to
26:52
Speaker 5: mine in Morgantown at nine o'clock. So that's why I
26:55
Speaker 5: don't have mister Wilson on the show today because he's
26:58
Speaker 5: kind of busy at this time. Dave and I actually
27:01
Speaker 5: talked about one time about doing a show like a simulcast,
27:04
Speaker 5: like you know, he and Morgantown and me here. That
27:07
Speaker 5: would be really but I don't know. Maybe you know,
27:11
Speaker 5: I'm not sure whether he's going to continue to do
27:13
Speaker 5: the local show in Morgantown or not, because it would
27:15
Speaker 5: be really difficult to do an hour long show from
27:17
Speaker 5: nine to ten and then jump in and do a
27:19
Speaker 5: network show from ten to new I don't know whether
27:21
Speaker 5: he is.
27:21
Speaker 3: Or not, so subject to check. I'll qualify with that.
27:25
Speaker 3: I do not believe that mister Wilson will continue on
27:28
Speaker 3: Talk of the Town in Morgan that's a local show there.
27:31
Speaker 3: Somebody else will take that over. If you happen to
27:33
Speaker 3: be a guy like me, spend a lot of time
27:35
Speaker 3: in Morgantown, a lot of time in the southern part
27:36
Speaker 3: of the state. And you've listened to w AJAR and
27:38
Speaker 3: WHS and you know the local programming. You may remember
27:42
Speaker 3: some of the folks from Morgantown AM. I'd be worth
27:44
Speaker 3: checking out his podcast. He had a bunch of his
27:46
Speaker 3: former co hosts on the show, people like Kay Murray
27:49
Speaker 3: and Sir John Wiles and others. It was. It was
27:51
Speaker 3: good radio. It'd be something to go back to the
27:52
Speaker 3: podcast and listen to.
27:54
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Speaker 5: in New Orleans kind of get your your take on it.
28:13
Speaker 3: But you have a couple of texts here.
28:15
Speaker 5: TJ text says, this debate forms my opinion, stuff is
28:18
Speaker 5: a farce. Tell us when this has ever happened to
28:21
Speaker 5: either Dave or TJ. Can't speak for Dave because he's
28:24
Speaker 5: not here, I'm presuming they're talking about Wilson, But what
28:27
Speaker 5: about you, mister meadows Well, debate is a farce? Why
28:32
Speaker 5: is the debate of farce? This debate forms my opinion?
28:35
Speaker 5: Stuff is farce? Says a texture. Tell us when this
28:38
Speaker 5: has ever happened to either Dave or TJ.
28:42
Speaker 3: Well. You know, Look, that's the path of least resistance,
28:49
Speaker 3: isn't it is to just form a camp and not
28:52
Speaker 3: make up your opinion based on fact and have those
28:56
Speaker 3: opinions formed by debate. Isn't that the easy way to
28:58
Speaker 3: do it? Just hop on the train and go. So
29:01
Speaker 3: if the assertion is that we're challenging the status quo
29:04
Speaker 3: and doing something different, thank you for the compliment.
29:06
Speaker 5: We are text says, I agree that the clickbait style
29:10
Speaker 5: broadcasting is not a good thing, but no talk show
29:13
Speaker 5: host should ever strive to be boring. That's a recipe
29:15
Speaker 5: for lowering listenership. I say that as a listener, I'm
29:18
Speaker 5: not going to listen to a boring program. Facts aren't boring.
29:22
Speaker 5: I think though, maybe the text are there and I'm
29:24
Speaker 5: not trying to get into their head, but I think
29:25
Speaker 5: maybe they're taking that maybe literally because Styrawald it's far
29:29
Speaker 5: from from from boring.
29:30
Speaker 3: No, No, it's it's not boring. I guess what I
29:32
Speaker 3: mean by that. And it's good qualification is to say
29:37
Speaker 3: that if something comes out of my mouth, I need
29:41
Speaker 3: to be able to back it up with facts. One
29:43
Speaker 3: of the things that bothers me about X and other
29:45
Speaker 3: social media. You'll see folks say report and then let's
29:49
Speaker 3: say this and this, right, they can't quote a source. Yep.
29:52
Speaker 5: That We saw that all day yesterday. We saw that
29:55
Speaker 5: all day with the New Orleans story, which I would
29:57
Speaker 5: get to.
29:57
Speaker 3: I mean all day it was. I mean, I think
29:59
Speaker 3: X toxic. I'm gonna be honest with you.
30:01
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, Facebook and can can we just
30:04
Speaker 5: go back to putting pictures of your food and cats?
30:06
Speaker 5: And like I do you know? In sports and whatever
30:09
Speaker 5: X is, X is absolutely toxic. Now that having been said,
30:14
Speaker 5: I use it, but I use it as a vehicle
30:16
Speaker 5: for this show and for the other the the other
30:20
Speaker 5: shows that are our network produces, and to push w
30:23
Speaker 5: In Marshall Sports and that sort of thing. Very rarely
30:25
Speaker 5: do I ever put an opinion on it because I
30:27
Speaker 5: think it's complete garbage of it.
30:29
Speaker 3: But that's just me. X is a tool. It's just
30:32
Speaker 3: a tool, and that's one way to put it. It's
30:34
Speaker 3: how you use that tool. I mean, look, I can
30:36
Speaker 3: put a shovel in the front yard, but if no
30:38
Speaker 3: one digs a hole, you get no result. Right, It's
30:40
Speaker 3: it's all about the users. And make your wife get
30:42
Speaker 3: out there and dig that hole. Obviously you don't know
30:46
Speaker 3: my wife.
30:46
Speaker 5: If your wife digs a hole, your chances are you're
30:48
Speaker 5: going in it. If you're like like my house, Texas.
30:52
Speaker 5: Hoppy is going to be sitting at home one day
30:54
Speaker 5: then suddenly spew out jackpots in the millions.
30:56
Speaker 3: Who doesn't want to be a millionaire? That's it.
30:58
Speaker 5: And let me just say Hoppy is retired from Talk Line.
31:00
Speaker 5: I had him on the show a couple of weeks ago.
31:02
Speaker 5: Hobby's still going to be around here paying make an
31:04
Speaker 5: appearance on talk Line from time to time. Oh absolutely,
31:06
Speaker 5: uh And and he's going to be down here for
31:08
Speaker 5: the state tournament. I understand Three Guys Before the Game
31:11
Speaker 5: is a podcasts uh with with Brad Howell and CAREDI
31:15
Speaker 5: is going to continue.
31:16
Speaker 3: He's still going to be around.
31:17
Speaker 5: He's just not going to do that. He said he
31:19
Speaker 5: may do a commentary from time to time. He's just
31:21
Speaker 5: not going to do the daily grind of doing a
31:24
Speaker 5: talk show like that. And I can tell you, and
31:26
Speaker 5: I'm not, by any stretch of the imagination, trying to
31:29
Speaker 5: compare myself to Hoppy Courgeful. But I know what, believe
31:32
Speaker 5: it or not, I actually do preparation for this show.
31:34
Speaker 5: I know what one hour of show is. So when
31:38
Speaker 5: you're at that level, and I get the at least
31:41
Speaker 5: for now, I get the advantage of not being on camera.
31:46
Speaker 5: That's going to change here in a couple of weeks
31:48
Speaker 5: because the show and everything else we do is going
31:50
Speaker 5: to be on camera. But I don't necessarily have to,
31:53
Speaker 5: you know, be mindful of a camera looking at me.
31:56
Speaker 5: That's different when you're doing sports line. We're doing talk line,
31:58
Speaker 5: and eventually all of our shows hot Line is going
32:00
Speaker 5: to be on camera as well.
32:03
Speaker 3: Let me see here, Well, I was just going to
32:04
Speaker 3: say the amount of preparation, I mean, it's it's staggering.
32:07
Speaker 3: And I would never compare myself to Hopy either. But
32:10
Speaker 3: typically on a daily basis, you know, I read the
32:12
Speaker 3: Wall Street Journal, in New York Times, AP, Bloomberg, Politico.
32:17
Speaker 3: There are some industry rags that I read quite a
32:20
Speaker 3: bit and that was all for the job that I
32:22
Speaker 3: did and being prepared in the energy sector. That is
32:27
Speaker 3: a slither of what Kerchief will read. So yeah, I mean,
32:31
Speaker 3: and so no one can out goat the.
32:33
Speaker 5: Goat Texas First, Hopy is retiring. Then before you know it,
32:37
Speaker 5: it'll be Fred Persinger, Chris Lawrence, Tony Kredi, and Stephen
32:40
Speaker 5: Jenny West. Virginia Radio is going to look and sound
32:42
Speaker 5: completely different in the next five to ten years.
32:44
Speaker 3: Sucks getting old. Well, here's the thing.
32:46
Speaker 5: I mean, Number one, none of those people are retiring
32:47
Speaker 5: anytime soon. I can tell you Fred Persinger will retire
32:50
Speaker 5: when they when the building is no longer here, he
32:53
Speaker 5: will be the last one to go. But I can
32:56
Speaker 5: also say this is changes not necessarily.
33:00
Speaker 3: A bad thing.
33:01
Speaker 5: No, it's and every now and then we're all gonna
33:03
Speaker 5: you know, we're all going to be victims or we're
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Speaker 5: this event.
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Speaker 3: Early New Year's morning in New Orleans where the.
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Speaker 5: Driver of a Ford pickup, an American by the way,
36:26
Speaker 5: an American citizen, an Army veteran, intentionally drove into a
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Speaker 5: crowd on Bourbon Street around three am or so in
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Speaker 5: the morning, killing fifteen and wonted many others. Certainly a tragedy.
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Speaker 3: TJ. Overall your thoughts. If there were ever a reminder
36:43
Speaker 3: that evil is real in this world, you needn't look
36:47
Speaker 3: further than what happened yesterday. Fifteen dead, twenty five injured.
36:50
Speaker 3: That's going to go up, according to the FBI from
36:53
Speaker 3: what we hear in reports this morning, forty two year
36:56
Speaker 3: old Texas born man who served in the Armed Forces
37:01
Speaker 3: of the United States and Texas born didn't come here.
37:04
Speaker 3: That's important. The initial reports about you know, this vehicle
37:08
Speaker 3: coming across the border and all these kinds of things
37:10
Speaker 3: not accurate. And the first place I saw that was
37:13
Speaker 3: on X Yeah, not accurate, not accurate at all. You know,
37:18
Speaker 3: the question becomes, how does this man become and doctrinated.
37:21
Speaker 3: There's a piece in the Wall Street Journal this morning
37:23
Speaker 3: talking about he'd had a rough go in his personal life,
37:26
Speaker 3: successful in climbing the corporate ladder with Deloitte. He was
37:30
Speaker 3: a consultant going through a divorce, faced financial difficulties as
37:34
Speaker 3: a result of that, how does this person become radicalized?
37:38
Speaker 3: And in my mind, aside from from the sorrow and
37:42
Speaker 3: solemness of the day yesterday that we feel for the
37:44
Speaker 3: victims and the families, the question becomes, how do we
37:49
Speaker 3: put aside a lot of the petty bickering that we
37:52
Speaker 3: have back and forth on a lot of the hot
37:54
Speaker 3: topic political issues. We talked about the clickbait and come
37:57
Speaker 3: to the realization of what we've always known, which is
38:00
Speaker 3: freedom is under attack and always will be. There are
38:03
Speaker 3: entities out there, terrorist groups, radical religious groups that are
38:08
Speaker 3: intolerant of the American system and the freedom that we have.
38:11
Speaker 3: There are nation states for that fact. I mean you
38:13
Speaker 3: look for the China HACKEDUS last week with the Treasury Department.
38:15
Speaker 3: I continue to rail on the fact that the Chinese
38:19
Speaker 3: are not trustworthy. They are posturing, They're growing their military.
38:22
Speaker 3: They're navy now outweighs ours in number account. It's approaching
38:25
Speaker 3: tonnage count. Russia and North Korea are obviously incohoots against Ukraine.
38:30
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that we should be spending all the
38:32
Speaker 3: money that we do on Ukraine. But we have to
38:33
Speaker 3: realize that these are nation states that are communists. And
38:36
Speaker 3: you know, we thought communism died with the Cold War,
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Speaker 3: didn't It's live and well we got to get our
38:41
Speaker 3: eye on the ball, Dave. And I think that's the
38:43
Speaker 3: overarching story here, at least in my mind, is that
38:46
Speaker 3: we need to refocus. You know, I grew up in
38:48
Speaker 3: a time. I'm just a southern West Virginia Boom County boy,
38:52
Speaker 3: but I grew up in one of the best places
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Speaker 3: in the world in my mind, and that was a
38:56
Speaker 3: small community called community called Silvester, West Virginia that a
39:00
Speaker 3: small town of about seven hundred and fifty people is
39:03
Speaker 3: like a four blockdown. I had some phenomenal role examples
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Speaker 3: to grow up in one of those. Two of those families,
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Speaker 3: the Arvon Price family. You may have heard of, the
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Speaker 3: Arvonns in Boone County, extraordinarily patriotic, first generation Americans from Greece.
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Speaker 3: Georgie Price, who was a member of that family, married
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Speaker 3: into the Price family same way. She was my principal
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Speaker 3: from elementary school through junior high school. Drummed into us
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Speaker 3: what America was and how others and other countries did
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Speaker 3: not have freedom and really molded who I became and
39:38
Speaker 3: taught us to appreciate the fact that freedom is not free.
39:40
Speaker 3: There are prices, blood has been spilt, and we've become
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Speaker 3: so distance from that today. Much of our generation, in
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Speaker 3: our youth today don't understand that there are others in
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Speaker 3: the world that are intolerant of the freedoms that we
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Speaker 3: have here, and that freedom had to be transacted right,
39:56
Speaker 3: it had to be earned, wasn't given to us. There's
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Speaker 3: people that don't want us to have it. And in
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Speaker 3: my mind, when I think about New Orleans, we've lost
40:03
Speaker 3: that example. We've lost that teaching in our youth, and
40:07
Speaker 3: we need to get it back. And we need to
40:08
Speaker 3: realize that there are people, organizations, nation states, in this
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Speaker 3: world that very much wish us harm and in this
40:17
Speaker 3: country and in this country that have become radicalized, and
40:20
Speaker 3: how have they become radicalized in this country? And we
40:23
Speaker 3: got to stop.
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Speaker 5: I agree with you everything you said, TJ, but we've
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Speaker 5: also got to get away from this again. Yesterday, I've
40:31
Speaker 5: spent a lot of time, you know, watching delving into
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Speaker 5: this story.
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Speaker 3: Yesterday, watching the press conference.
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Speaker 5: By the way, I will say this about the press conference,
40:37
Speaker 5: there were ever a primer on how to not conduct
40:41
Speaker 5: a press conference of the folks in New Orleans hit
40:45
Speaker 5: it out of the park on that on how not
40:46
Speaker 5: to do it, because that was the biggest cluster, you
40:49
Speaker 5: know what that I have ever seen. Compare and contrasts
40:52
Speaker 5: that to the press conference that was held in Vegas
40:56
Speaker 5: last night on that situation, and that guy I handled
40:58
Speaker 5: it perfectly. It was embarrassing that press conference in New
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Speaker 5: Orleans just day from the officials Republican and Democrat. It
41:04
Speaker 5: was an absolute embarrassment. But they got a lot of
41:09
Speaker 5: questions to answer there in New Orleans.
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Speaker 3: And again you don't.
41:11
Speaker 5: Want to look like your quote unquote victim shaming, but
41:13
Speaker 5: they got a heck of a lot of questions to answer.
41:15
Speaker 5: Ballerm well, I mean the police chief said, I swear it.
41:21
Speaker 5: It reminded me of a scene of smoking and a
41:22
Speaker 5: bandit because the teacher, the police chief said, well, we
41:26
Speaker 5: had a burry pert up, but he went around. It
41:28
Speaker 5: was that something that Junior would have said, the sun
41:30
Speaker 5: in smoking a bandit when he said, Daddy, he wrecked
41:33
Speaker 5: my police car.
41:34
Speaker 3: You know what the heck is this all about.
41:36
Speaker 5: But but but anyway, yesterday, as soon as it happened
41:39
Speaker 5: that I woke up. I was not up at three
41:40
Speaker 5: point fifteen, by the way, yesterday when I found out
41:42
Speaker 5: about it, when I woke up like most people did.
41:44
Speaker 5: And then you go to X and you go to
41:46
Speaker 5: and this, well, this is what happens when it's Biden's America.
41:49
Speaker 5: This is this is the open border that caused us.
41:52
Speaker 5: And then it on the other hand, is well, this
41:54
Speaker 5: is Trump, this is this is Trump's this is what
41:56
Speaker 5: Trump because none of this ever happened before Biden and
41:59
Speaker 5: Trump ever came a There was never a nine to eleven.
42:01
Speaker 5: There was never the original bombing of the World Trade
42:05
Speaker 5: Center in the early nineties. It was never a Timothy McVeigh.
42:07
Speaker 5: None of this ever happened before Biden and Trump.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, the border issue, you know, and I am
42:14
Speaker 3: a fan of President Trump's economic policies. I'm on record
42:18
Speaker 3: as saying that I also have problems with the way
42:22
Speaker 3: the President conducts himself in many instances. And going to
42:25
Speaker 3: truth Social yesterday and talking about this is what happens
42:28
Speaker 3: when you don't secure the border. From a guy who's
42:30
Speaker 3: from America, from a guy who's from America, you know,
42:33
Speaker 3: I think that's a stretch and it's a stretch. I'm
42:36
Speaker 3: trying to be diplomatic here. It's just it's not accurate.
42:40
Speaker 3: I mean, you're right, and it doesn't help the situation
42:43
Speaker 3: and conflating those two issues. Now, do I think the
42:46
Speaker 3: border should be locked up secure? Nobody? Absolutely, I do.
42:51
Speaker 3: But to say what happened yesterday as a result of
42:54
Speaker 3: something with the border, I just don't make that connection. Now.
42:58
Speaker 3: If months from now there's some kind of radical lized
43:02
Speaker 3: group that was able to come into the country and
43:04
Speaker 3: indoctrinate this guy one to one and they slipped through
43:06
Speaker 3: the border, we'll have a conversation about that. I don't
43:09
Speaker 3: see that yet. There there's been no evidence that that
43:12
Speaker 3: that's what happened.
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Speaker 8: Now.
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Speaker 3: I do others know more than I do, absolutely, But
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Speaker 3: I'm just not seeing the connection on the two. And
43:19
Speaker 3: maybe the evidence will point me to that. But I'm
43:21
Speaker 3: one to tend to wait till the facts are in
43:23
Speaker 3: and then I'll make a conclusion. But that's me.
43:25
Speaker 5: Let me see Texas, the terrorist New Orleans was just
43:27
Speaker 5: taking care of the enemy within. Stop lecturing me about
43:30
Speaker 5: Freeingo being under attack. Until you clean up fascism and
43:33
Speaker 5: the GOP. That's the BS I'm talking about right there.
43:36
Speaker 5: That's it right there.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
43:39
Speaker 5: Uh, the enemy within the enemy of the within were
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Speaker 5: people that were out celebrating the new year coming in.
43:46
Speaker 3: That's that's what this.
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Speaker 5: Texter thinks is that we were that we were going
43:50
Speaker 5: for the enemy within a bunch of people on Bourbon Stryt,
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Speaker 5: New Orleans on New Year's Eve or New Year's Day
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Speaker 5: at that point, I mean, what the hell?
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Speaker 5: violent attacks like the one in New Orleans.
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Speaker 3: It's just a fact.
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Speaker 5: Most people don't want to admit it because they hail
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Speaker 5: from broken families themselves, and they don't pay attention to God.
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Speaker 3: Says a texture. I gotta tell you, I think the
47:22
Speaker 3: breakdown of the family in America and a lot of
47:25
Speaker 3: that strength does If you're like me and you're a
47:28
Speaker 3: follower of Jesus Christ. It does frame your thinking, and
47:31
Speaker 3: it does frame your family situation. And I'm not going
47:34
Speaker 3: to tell somebody, you know, what religion they should subscribe to.
47:37
Speaker 3: But yeah, the American family to say that it's not
47:41
Speaker 3: broken down, I mean absolutely text or spot.
47:43
Speaker 5: On it, and I agree with that. But as somebody
47:45
Speaker 5: who comes from a broken home, I can also tell
47:47
Speaker 5: you family doesn't necessarily have to be mom and dad,
47:50
Speaker 5: two kids. No, that's it's somebody who is accountable to
47:52
Speaker 5: kick you in the backside when you don't do what
47:55
Speaker 5: you're supposed to do. A accountability at home, a solid
47:59
Speaker 5: family unit and home of some sort whatever, That would
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Speaker 5: be my opinion.
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Speaker 3: No, I agree, Texas.
48:04
Speaker 5: My issue is with the coverage of WVU. Will have
48:07
Speaker 5: a Marshall slant like the show is, and Wilson is
48:10
Speaker 5: a big Marshall fan like Allan is. Also, well, I
48:13
Speaker 5: went to Marshall, but I'm also a WVU fan and
48:16
Speaker 5: you TJ went to both?
48:17
Speaker 3: Right, didn't you go to both? I did not. I'm
48:19
Speaker 3: a WV alum. I thought I thought you did.
48:21
Speaker 5: Work at Marshall at some point. Okay, well, there's still
48:25
Speaker 5: time to correct.
48:26
Speaker 3: That with them. Kaddy I'm kiddy, and I'm kiddy. I
48:29
Speaker 3: have nothing now. My wife teaches at Marshall. Maybe that's
48:31
Speaker 3: what you're thinking about. Look, I'm a fan of both institutions,
48:35
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48:38
Speaker 3: playing Marshall in Tittley Wings Go Mountaineers, there you go.
48:41
Speaker 5: With, then that's the way you should be. Yeah, Texas,
48:44
Speaker 5: we are free, but at what cost? And who is
48:45
Speaker 5: footing the bill? Really says a texture Texas says TJ.
48:50
Speaker 5: Don't start drumming up the Cold War red scare nine
48:52
Speaker 5: to eleven terrorism rhetoric. It's twenty twenty five. Freedom is
48:55
Speaker 5: not under attack. Our military men and women have bore
48:57
Speaker 5: the brunt of our political ineptitude of our for decades.
49:00
Speaker 5: Dems and Republicans, their inability to work together for all
49:03
Speaker 5: Americans is to blame. What's worse, radicalization of a handful
49:07
Speaker 5: of our military men and women, or dozens dying each
49:10
Speaker 5: day at their own hand due to physical, mental and emotional.
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Speaker 3: Disorders due to their service. You're telling me that red
49:15
Speaker 3: China that continually manipulates its currency takes on you know,
49:20
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say warlike, but shady economic variables all the
49:24
Speaker 3: time to devalue their currency to make their goods and
49:27
Speaker 3: services cheaper than ours. You're telling me that a build
49:31
Speaker 3: up of nuclear weapons in China that's documented. You're telling
49:34
Speaker 3: me that a build up of the navy in China
49:36
Speaker 3: that's documented. You're telling me their documented stance towards Taiwan
49:41
Speaker 3: is not something we should be concerned about, and that
49:43
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Speaker 5: And Dave Wilson will have a heavy load replacing Hoppy.
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Speaker 5: They need to be very confrontational with the gasos. Hoppy
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Speaker 3: Freedom is not permission to do whatever we want.
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Speaker 5: It's the power to do what we ought. We use
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Speaker 5: the word ought enough in that sense. I don't I
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Speaker 5: think you have to use it with the bridge, Texas.
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Speaker 5: I heard yesterday I was watching something. They were talking
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Speaker 5: about the early two thousands as the aughts.
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Speaker 3: The odds. That's why I've heard that. That's what we're called.
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Speaker 5: Tex says the guy who ran over those people did
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Speaker 5: it for Allah, who's the same God of Christianity, and
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Speaker 5: Judae is Judas. Religious nut jobs of any religion are
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Speaker 5: the problem. They can't live and let live. I put
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Speaker 5: it on the t for you on that one, TJ.
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Speaker 3: Y's a radical ge hottist And this may ruffle feathers
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Speaker 3: if you talk about controversy. Look, radical Islam is not
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Speaker 3: the same as Islam that's coming from again, a follower
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Speaker 3: of Jesus Christ.
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Speaker 5: Any more than Westboro Baptist is a follower of christianitay.
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Speaker 3: Bingo, and are they radicalized? Was this guy's the hottest? Absolutely? Okay,
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Speaker 3: already read that one? All right? Well, TJ. I'll tell you,
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Speaker 3: it's been fun having you. Hold on, hold on.
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Speaker 5: I got conservatives like military members when they're fighting a
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Speaker 5: dying for America, they don't like having to support their
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Speaker 5: mental and physical health care needs. I agree with that,
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Speaker 5: I agree completely, and I will say Conservatives, I'll I'll
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Speaker 5: say the country wants to forget about them once they're
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Speaker 5: done with them. That happens more often than you would think,
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Speaker 5: speaking to someone whose father died because of its service
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Speaker 5: in Vietnam.
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Speaker 3: The fact that there is one homeless veteran in this country,
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Speaker 3: and there are many, is a testament to how poorly
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Speaker 3: we have let those who serve this country.
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Speaker 5: Now, TJ, it's been fun. This will be the last
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Speaker 5: time I'll have you on. I guess before you take
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Speaker 5: over the big chair on Monday. Well, maybe you'll have
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Speaker 5: me back. Maybe, maybe maybe you'll have me on your show. Absolutely,
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Speaker 5: is it gonna be TJ and Dave or David TJ.
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Speaker 5: Inquiring minds want to know it's Daven TJ. Okay, David TJ.
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Speaker 5: I'm nothing if not humble. I think it sounds bad.
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Speaker 5: with that at all?
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Speaker 3: Right, I gotta go.
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Speaker 5: Coming up on the show tomorrow, Hannah Gardner from the
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