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Loki Season 2 Episodes 1-3 · May The Review Be With You

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Time. Time works differently, Time's not linear. I've been looking forward to
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this since before Infinity War. Let's go. We're looking forward to this since
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before Sam Raimi Spider Man one. I've been looking forward to this since before
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the original Batman. Now we're talking about d DO, so we're gonna move
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on. We're gonna move on. Hello and welcome to May the Review be
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with you with Nick and Joe. I'm Joe, I'm Nick, And today
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we're talking about Loki, something we're really excited about. We've been excited to
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talk about Loki season two, probably Loki season one ended. Yes, here
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we are waiting for this. I've been waiting for this since Iron Man died.
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It's how long I've been waiting for Loki season two. So that only
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works. I feel like if if like time travels, Shenan again are involved,
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because our man didn't die until Okay, you're not in your head.
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Okay, so you are. You're you're doing a thing. You're doing a
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time travel thing. Time works differently, Time's not linear. I've been looking
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forward to this since before Infinity War. Let's go. Looking forward to this
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since before Sam Raimi Spider Man one. I've been looking forward to this since
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before the original Batman. Now we're talking about d like to do. So
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we're gonna move on. We're gonna move on verse the Trash universe. Yeah,
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maybe one day they'll get it together. But so we're talking about Yes,
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Nick, you've already displayed some excitement. I've explained some excitement before we
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get into the episodes. Talk to me about why what it is that you
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like about the Loki series. Why were you looking forward to this? Uh,
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Tom, Tom Hidleston and Owen Wilson have some of the best on screen
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chemistry that I think we've seen in the Marvel Cinematic universe honestly TV in general.
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It's like they're so good together, it's incredible, and so I was
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really looking forward to that. I've been a huge fan of Jonathan Major's in
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the way that he's portrayed King and a couple and he he remains and so
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I've been really looking forward to seeing him as well, which we'll get to
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later. And Yeah, it's just it's probably the best written show that they've
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done. In my opinion, it's my favorite show that they've done. From
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the season one and then you know, so far it's really gone gotten started
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off really well. See those are my those are my quick takeaways. What
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about you, I'm gonna echo a lot of the same as that. I
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mean, we came right off of Wan Division, which was really great into
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Loki, and somehow that was even more interesting. I think I've said it
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out of here before you notice. I'm a sucker for time travel stuff.
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That was like this was like yep, I'm all in, baby, and
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like season two is already like more tiny whiny than season one just even I
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just god, it's got me, you know, it's got my full attention.
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Let's get into the time travel, because that's how season the first episode
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kicks off right, like, we just see Loki getting ripped apart, like
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through time, jumping from the past, jumping into the future. I got
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such a sorry, go ahead, no, no, I'm I'm I'm on
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you. I'm on your time. I have a quick summary. So yeah,
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let's let's go ahead and jump into episode one. A quick reminder,
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Loki Season two hits the ground running as Loki sprints away from the TVA agents
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of the past. The as Guardian discovers he's time slipping between the TVA's past
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present and future. Uh, something before not thought was possible. The TVA
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becomes divided over the disappearance of Miss Minutes and rent Layer, as well as
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the infinite branches coming from the Sacred Timeline. Mobius takes Loki to me or
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abor Us that are known as ob who identifies Loki as time slipping and informs
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the game the Gang that the time loom of the Sacred Timeline is overloading.
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They must fix Loki's time slipping while protecting the TVA from the chronal radiation.
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Okay, there's a lot in there, Nick, That's that's that's a packed
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that's a packed first first episode. And I think in most cases this would
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be too much. But Nick, what were your impressions of this episode?
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Uh, the immediate chaos was fantastic and it brilliant really too right, because
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at the end of season one, when Loki comes back from from the end
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of time, he sees Mobius and Moby says no idea who he is.
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And so, like you know, we've and and and we've watched a bunch
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of other Marvel TV shows and films since then. We just got done with
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ant Man a few months ago, and our thoughts are that we know,
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we're completely wondering, like what happened? Is he on a different timeline?
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Like I think a lot of our thoughts were Loki came back and he is
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on a branch timeline that has now come about because he who remains has died,
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and so I think that was our our our thought, and the second
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we find out that he was in the past instead, I was just like,
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oh my god, this is fantastic. And he's just time slipping between
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the past and a present and wherever he time slips is where he ends up
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in the past or the future, which is what was was some super cool
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scenes. That's my Like, that was my initial thought right from the from
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the get go. What what about you? So this is related to the
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opening scenes, but like this is pretty present throughout this episode. I feel
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like the word that you use, like the chaos and the pandemonium. Absolutely
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they they being the directors, the editor, Hidleston, do those in charge
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of the camera work do such an amazing job of instilling fear and anxiety in
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you. Like I was nervous throughout this whole episode, you know, especially
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when Loki's like running around like trying to like get someone to remember him.
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And like you know, he comes to realize he's in the past when he's
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talking to Casey. Yeah, and the anxiety that like Tom Hillston is able
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to to demonstrate, the paranoia and the fear, the fear that he's able
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to show as as this character that we've come to know for so long now
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he and a sorry and and the simple I want to touch on this because
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you mentioned it in the simple way that they let us know that he realizes,
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like how he realizes that he was in the past with you know that
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the the mid air that where was he was just like in a in a
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vehicle, you know, a floating vehicle, very Star Wars esque in that
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scene, I think you know where he's like, you know, they've got
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the the float the my god, what the hell is the word I'm looking
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for whatever? The floating floating transportation And and then you know, the truck
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crashes through the window and then wiggles like the TV where it shows the timeline
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and it cracks the floor and then he's pulled apart and time slips back to
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the present and and realizes or no realize, Yeah, realizes that he was
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in the past because the crack on the floor is there just like I don't
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know, I just love that. That was like simple but awesome. You
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it really is there. The direction of this episode, Like I know you
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are big fans of the finale of Loki, and a lot of that has
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to do with Jonathan Major's performance as he who Remains, and that is certainly
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true. This might be my favorite episode of Loki from like a directorial process
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for all of the storytelling that we learn based on like what's happening in the
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environment around us, right, Like that crack in the floor that was a
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brilliant way of like showing us like that's the past. The thing that happens
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later with skin like in the dust, showing us that that's the future.
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Really really clever ways to do that. The level of fear and anxiety that's
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like amplified like Tom Hillson's performance, it's amplified by like this shaky camera that's
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like following Loki around as he's like panicking trying to get people to hear him,
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hear what he's saying. Right. I want to point this out.
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The duo that directed this episode was Justin Benson and Aaron moorehead their Attag team,
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and I think before this, I don't I'm not too familiar with their
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work, but the thing that they did before this was they worked on Moonnight,
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which very much also has a kind of like paranoid very cool. Yep,
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that's great, that's great. I thought that was really interesting too.
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Those guys really have that that feeling down right, they know how to demonstrate
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that. Yeah, yeah, they got that across really well. I mean,
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that was a high powered episode the whole time, pretty much. I
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want to ask you a question. We are introduced to a new character in
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this episode. We're introduced to Ara Boros, played by Kiwa Kwan, who,
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of course very well known for a lot of stuff recently, everything everywhere,
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all at once. What'd you think about ob Ah so far? Even
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even after this third episode, he is like stealing the show for me.
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I love him. He's my favorite character right now. Like I need more
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of a b and and I need him to say we're all gonna die like
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way more time. It's so fuck freaking funny, man. He's like,
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Uh, it's such like a it's a nice I don't, I don't know
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how to how to describe it. Like the addition of his character is such
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like a it's like uplifting but dooms doomsday at the same time. You like,
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he's like delightful in the Yeah, he's delightful in the doom. So
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it's really cool. Uh and that scene in the first episode where the scene
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the scene where Mobius and and uh Loki go go to talk to him about
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the time slipping and he's like, it's not possible to time slip in the
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TV A. Well, then how did I do it? He's like,
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Oh, I'm having trouble reconcile that. It's like that, it's so funny.
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It's weird. And then like Loki time slips to the past in that
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room, which is such a cool concept. And then he's like talking to
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Oraborus in the past, and as he's talking to him in the past,
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like his future self or his present self is remembering the conversation and able to
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kind of like put it all together. And then all of a sudden,
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like he's he's basically had hundreds of years to create this device. It is
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really cool thinking that like the three of them are actually having that conversation but
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from two different points in time. Yeah, I guess four of them right,
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So Yeah, it was so well done. It was like, this
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is I could watch that scene one hundred times. That was such a cool
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time travel scene. Gotta be one of the best time travel scenes ever.
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Like ever, I really enjoyed the humor of that. You have a small
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nip with that scene. It's not necessarily a flawed depending on how they spin
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this, but based on what we know about time travel in the MCU,
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that shouldn't be possible, right, Like Scott, poor Scott Lane gets made
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fun of for talking about like this exact example of manipulating the past, and
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they're like, that's not how time travel works, stupid, And then like
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here it is, like, actually, it's exactly how it works, right,
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which I guess they kind of break the rules of time travel in that
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very movie where they set up the rules of time travel. My head cannon
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for this, though, is that since the TVA is the closest location to
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the source of all time energy, that maybe like time can be like more
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easily manipulated around that area. Yeah, And there's clearly a there's clearly a
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break in the major summer too, because obviously like things are falling apart and
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there's like so many timelines branching off that it feels like the rules of time
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travel might only apply when there's only a sacred timeline and not a million different
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universes currently happening. So it'll be interesting thing to see if they really kind
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of if we find out more about it as as a show. I got
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a couple more things just for this episode. One more ob thing. Yeah,
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when they're walking over to the time Loom Sacred Loom and Obi is explaining
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why the power disruption is such a bad thing, and he starts talking about
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the TVA Manual, which wow, that they're emphasizing that manual and Obi a
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lot in this season. We're going to talk more about that later. I'm
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very curious about your thoughts on that. But there's that wonderful moment where uh
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Ob, just being a badass at his job, just throws the manual behind
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him and Tom grabs it mid air. I rewound that over and over and
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over again to see if that was CGI. I'm convinced it's not. I'm
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convinced they did that on purpose, because like the thing that gave it away
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from me is Tom Middleston tracks it the book like throughout the air the entire
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time in the proper direction where it is so like, I'm convinced they did
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that they actually did that they might have I had to I was wondering about
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it too. I would love to know one if you're correct, and I
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have a feeling that you are, because it feels like it's something that they
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could definitely least do like ten takes off and probably get one right. And
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then my other thing is how many takes did they have to do if it
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was done like for real? And my third question is was that actually even
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in the script or did did he ad lib the throw and then did Tom
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Hddleston like actually catch it on the say that that does kind of feel like
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the kind of movie magic that might just happen like in the moment. Man,
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that that would be awesome, right because they were, you know,
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because they really flowed. I mean, obviously they're phenomenal actors, so of
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course it flowed well, but it flowed really well to where I was like,
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man, it didn't even like miss It didn't even feel like nothing felt
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forced. I was like, I wonder if that was just off the cuff
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and then it just ended up working, that would be so cool. Either
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way, I hope it was done live Like, I hope it wasn't CGI
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because that was like a serial cool moment. Yeah, really awesome seeing on
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the way to the time Loom Time Loom really interesting concept, interesting more about
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how the tdo functions and where it is in like the grander scheme of the
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multiverse. I guess that was fascinating. Also, we haven't talked about it
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enough. Owen Wilson in this episode is just amazing comedic relief throughout everything,
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especially with him arguing with Loki about like whether or not it's better to be
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erased molecule by molecule throughout time or to just have your right kind of argument.
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I would have gotten into you with like you or like my other friends
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in college, like screaming at the top of her lungs, like which is
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worse. I'll just like how he just obsesses over it around the rest of
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the episode. He's so funny. Yeah, we also got more B five
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in this episode. Five. I'm really interested in that character. We'll get
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into her in episode two. But before's there was there anything about episode one
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you wanted to discuss? Yeah? The other thing is is it has to
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be the last part when I guess the executives of the TVA are meeting in
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the room trying to figure out what the next order of business is, and
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Loki had gone there looking for Mobius. At he's being pulled between the past
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and the present, and he ends up there in the past when there's the
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room is empty and on the wall is like, you know, multiple murals
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of Kang the Conqueror and his variants, and he you know, plays this
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little radio message which is he he remains talking or Rent Slayer excuse me and
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Rens Slayer are talking, and and then he gets time slips back to the
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present and in the present in the room there's a painting over them, over
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the statues of king, and he remains. And that seems like, you
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know, we don't have to really talk about like what the you know,
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TVA heads we're talking about. But I loved how Loki is still like obviously
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that moment, he's still super chaotic because he has no idea what's going on,
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and he's like trying to find Mobius, who knows him. This is
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like the moment where he's like, oh, you know me, you know
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who I am, like blah blah blah, And Loki's like looking at the
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room, He's like, wait a minute, something's different, and he and
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he ends up like destroying the mural that is covering he remains in the variants,
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and everyone in the room is just like, how the hell did he
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know that was there? Like what is this? Like it's like kind of
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like a cool moment for everyone to know that, like everyone is way underqualified
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for whatever is currently happening in the universe. I actually thought this is what
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you bring up when Loki time slips into the future, which I think it's
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our I mean, we don't know if he time slipped into the future earlier,
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but it's our only intertention that he's actually in the future, and like
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everything's falling apart at the Secret Timeline appears to be overloading way too much,
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while the loom is overloading way too much, and he's looking to get primmed.
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He walks toward he walks toward a phone that's very very weird. Superesty
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lost is he sees Sylvia and elevator before he can really take a moment Tom
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because of course he's the person he wants to see. Someone prunes him from
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behind. I have a lot of actually, no, I just have one
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very loud thought. It's it's that's gotta be Loki, right like, Loki
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has to prove Loki in that scene, right Like, I feel like that's
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what it is. Oh, yeah, you know what it's. I I
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don't think that I got during the episode that he he was proved by something.
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Someone moves behind him, we can't see who it is, and they
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get him from behind. I don't know why. I must have forgot that
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detail or I missed it somehow. That's awesome, and it has to be
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Loky, and we're we're gonna get and and we're probably gonna get that scene
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like next episode maybe even because now we no, Sylvie's not back, Yeah
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maybe toward now. Yeah, because Sylvie's not back at the t v A.
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It's at the moment after episode three, so she was for a second
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and two. But we'll get there. Yeah, that would be That's super
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interesting. And also that seems a little infuriating because the phone's ringing for what
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feels like forever and the elevator doors are opening for what feels like forever.
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Meanwhile, he really needs to prove himself so that he doesn't get lots to
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time forever and I'm just like, I feel like his urgency is like misguided
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here, He's working the wrong things. In this moment, I was like,
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what is this guy doing? So thankfully someone proved him. You know,
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it might have been there moments where I, like I truly believed like,
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oh, he's not gonna make it. Not that I thought like something
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bad was gonna happen LOGI because obviously it's just episode one, but it was
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like, wow, damn it, he's actually not gonna make it. Yeah,
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I bought it, good story tell Yeah. And then of course he
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gets pruned and Mobias, you know, uh, hangs out there long enough
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on the bridge to grab Loki from from time basically as himself without time slipping,
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and he's basically all put back together, and we can kind of continue
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on from there. Is there anything else in the first episode We wanted to
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just Sylvie that, but honestly we can get more into that in the second
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episode. Okay, all right. Episode two, Mobias are looking for Hunter
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x five, who has information on Sylvie, who Loki is desperately trying to
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find. Uh. They capture and they kind of mess with him a little
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bit until he reveals her location. Meanwhile, Judge Docks is pruning all branches
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of the Sacred timeline. There's a lot that happens in this episode, but
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that's more or less like the summary. Yeah, yeah, and that's really
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the main point. Right, Like the episode kind of starts, I mean,
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it starts like almost more chaotic than not chaotic, but more definitely more
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confusing than really the first episode, because they're just like hunting down Brad.
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Right at the beginning, We're just like, wait, what is going on
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right now? Like why are they here? Like why are they hunting Brad
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down? You know? And obviously we come to find out that like he
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was supposed to be hunting Sylvie and instead of hunting Sylvie, he is just
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parading around as a movie star in the past or on this timeline. And
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that was cool though, because we kind of got like a you know,
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we got a little bit of a chase scene. We got to see Loki
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use of magic, which is always a plus, especially the scene when he
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catches Brad and he's using two shadows to hold Brad against the wall and then
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there's three Lokis standing there and Mobius walks up and he's clearly talking to Loki
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in the middle, but all of a sudden you realize the Loki on the
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right is actually well the Loki technically depending on how you're looking, but the
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Loki to the left of them is the one who's in charge, so that
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I love scenes like that. Yeah, I love scenes like that, and
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uh, but the most important part of that episode obviously is uh is you
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know, the very end. But I guess we could probably talk about the
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I think my favorite part is the interrogation scenes with Brad and uh, yeah,
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I'm interested to see what you have to say before we get to that,
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or you can pick it up from there. I enjoyed watching this episode,
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and obviously I love this show. If the last episode was one of
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my favorite episodes from this from the Loki Show, I think this episode is
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my least favorite only because of how jarring it is, and it's not jarring
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in the idea of like in the first episode we literally hit the ground running.
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We hit the ground running in like a really weird way in this episode,
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like it feels like we're missing scenes before like we get into it,
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and I guess one of the reasons I feel that way is one thing I
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thought was really interesting when we meet brad Or, Hunter X five and Judge
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Ducks. In the first episode, we're clearly expanding on the TV right and
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we're getting kind of the fallout of what's happened in season one and watching the
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TVA tear itself apart as a result of them, and it kind of felt
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like we were going to explore that a bit more and kind of see like
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how the TVA kind of salvages itself at least as far as its organization goes,
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Whereas like this episode, it almost feels like it's like makes a decision
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of we're not doing that. We're gonna try and put this storyline down as
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fast as we can because we have other time travel stuff that we need to
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get to, which like, hey, I agree, I'm more interested in
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that stuff anyway. But it just seemed so startling to like just all of
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a sudden, just we're doing this now and me, Me, Loki,
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me Mobius and Hunter B five we lead the TVA now. I guess,
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yeah, very odd. Well, I mean they did kind of establish that,
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they kind of established that in that you know, the executive room,
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you know, in the first in the first episode, but like, yeah,
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it definitely was startling and it and it was you are correct. There
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definitely felt like it was like we're missing scenes, like we missed a scene,
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Like there's a scene that they didn't that we didn't get, and we're
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like, what's going on? And even like the interrogation scenes with Hunter x
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five like or Brad, he like he was actually either like really really good
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or the scenes are meant to feel very like almost strange, like I don't
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know how to describe it, like I was, I was, I really
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enjoyed them, but like his mannerisms like you know, like nothing matters,
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and it does you know, like let me go back to being a movie
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star and like I'm not gonna participate in your stupid game because this is all
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fake. And like it was so interesting how when we met him in the
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first life, right like he was clearly like having a problem coming to grips
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with everything. Yeah, and then all of a sudden this episode which like
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don't get me wrong, I think this progression makes sense, but we didn't
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get to see the progression, and all of a sudden in this episode he's
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just like nothing matters, like like logical logical conclusion, right, and you
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know, right, well, especially with what we find out later, Right,
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the reason nothing matters is because all these timelines are about to get branched,
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are about to get exploded, you know, completely mixed, and so
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he's just like he's in on the plane. He knows what's going to happen.
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Then nothing matters because it's all going back to one timeline very very quickly
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in his in his mind. So and then of course, like the scene
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when they come back to interrogate him for the second time and they bring that
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machine and they do you know, they they obviously they trick him into thinking
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that Loki's going off the off the reservation and just going completely nuts to get
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to basically, you know, pseudo torture him in a way. It's such
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a good it's always was lucky, but that was a great reminder of why
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we all originally fell in love with his performance. He's so good at being
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the villain, you know, being that like that evil person in the room.
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Totally yeah, yeah, yep, he's so good at that. And
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now you're just reminding me too of the scene when they're getting pie together,
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right, it's like the break. It's basically the scene between the first interrogation
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and the second one. Where they're getting pie trying to calm down Mobius because
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he's just got you know, he just got Brad got him good. And
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and Loki brings up He's like, yeah, I was. I was so
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upset. I was so upset with my brother and my father that I went
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down to New York City. You know, the whole city hostage was an
28:26
alien army. Who does that? It's just making it like brushing it over
28:32
like it was just like it was upset. That's hilarious. But like for
28:37
him to say that kind of makes sense, like he's a god, Like,
28:40
it kind of makes sense that that's how he would view it, right,
28:42
Like it's not nearly as important, right, exactly right. It's instead
28:48
of me like passively aggressively like not talking to you for a week if I
28:51
was mad at you, he like is a god, so he can just
28:53
have costage some random world. It was just a phase, right, no
29:00
big deal. Yeah, And also really quick, I love this scene where
29:07
you know, look, he's pressing Mobius and this is happening in the same
29:11
scene with the with the pie eating. He's pressing Mobius about like, well,
29:15
don't you want to know what your life was? And blah blah blah,
29:18
and you know, like, don't you want to know if it was
29:21
what if it was something bad? What if it was you know, what
29:22
if it was something good? And he's just like, if it's something bad,
29:26
I can handle. If it was something good, you know, I
29:27
don't. I don't want to know. I'd rather this is my life,
29:30
you know. So it's really it's it was such a cool episode because we
29:34
got the juxtaposition of someone like Mobius who is like accept essentially accepted that his
29:40
life is the TVA and he wants to do good here and he doesn't want
29:44
to worry about what his life could have been before he who remains took him.
29:47
But then you have someone like X five or Brad who is like,
29:52
I had a life before none of this matters, you know, like total
29:57
opposite thought process of mo basically, And so it's kind of cool to see
30:03
the two sides basically right, and you get where both sides are coming from,
30:06
and so like at the end of the episode, when we finally figure
30:10
out what the whole uh plan has been, it's almost you can't you almost
30:18
can't blame those members of the TVA for doing what they're doing. Uh,
30:22
because yeah, you know, everyone's life is basically ripped apart with the knowledge
30:26
of it all being fake. If you PI scene is really interesting. PI
30:33
scene is really interesting. Hey, there's a weird kind of focus on pie
30:40
in this episode, Like they're surrounded by pies. He talks about how much
30:45
he loves the pie, right, and then like they go to McDonald's and
30:48
like the first thing he says, like when they enter, he's like,
30:51
Oh, I'm gonna get a slice of apple pie. Why do they keep
30:53
fucking why do they keep bringing this up? Why do they keep talking about
30:56
pie? I don't know that that's set off like my bills a little bit.
31:00
It's like that feels weirdly on purpose. I don't know why. I
31:04
just feel like pie is coming back in some kind of weird way something the
31:11
time trying to bring back pie. One other thing about that as some alarms.
31:21
The conversation when Moki and more Mobius Mobias are discussing who Mobius possibly could
31:30
have been on the timeline you know, like you said, just want to
31:33
know. She drops the phrase of I'd like to thank the guy who's responsible
31:42
for me being here, right, like in a time travel show like that,
31:45
feels like the sort of like line you put to like revisit later,
31:52
right, Like, what do you think about that? Yeah? Yeah,
31:56
yeah, I think I think he may regret maybe dramatic. Well, he
32:07
he's meeting a very he just he met a variant in episode three, so
32:09
you know he's getting closer like or something like. It's either like it's Hunter
32:20
X possibly responsible for him being in the TV, which you know, he
32:23
just got angry at him, right, or maybe maybe it's Loki right,
32:29
like he's sitting in front of the man who who's responsible for him being there?
32:34
Man? Can you imagine? Oh my god, I just had a
32:37
vision. Can you imagine? Because Loki is so gung ho on, you
32:43
know, his whole thing was he he paused at the end of time at
32:47
season one and wanted to think about it and discuss possibly taking over the role
32:52
of keeping the sacred timeline, and Sylvie was held bent on finishing her mission,
32:58
which was to destroy He who Remains so that all these other countless lives
33:02
could flourish basically, and what if the future of this basically is Loki is
33:10
actually the one who like forms part of the TVA, right, Like,
33:22
ah, this is now my mind is blown because I had a thought and
33:24
then it just kind of got grabbed because we know He who remains did right.
33:30
But there's there's a real chance because clearly Loki and He who Remains are
33:37
aligned right with what their mission was. So there is a future possibly of
33:45
this ending with Loki and He who remains actually working together to get the timeline
33:51
back in order, which would mean Loki then is going to be the person
33:55
to potentially recruit all of these TVA members. Glorious, this is it.
34:07
We just figured it out. We figured it out. We figured it out.
34:10
We just figured it out. Marvel, You're welcome, sorry or we're
34:15
sorry, I guess for spoiler alert. Yeah, the title is going to
34:20
be spoiler alert in these YouTube shorts. Uh, we figured it out.
34:24
We figured it out. Direction that would just create like such a bigger division
34:30
between him and Sylvie. Oh jeez. Now yeah, I don't see that
34:37
working out very well, especially now, like and we can get into it
34:39
now with how this the episode two ended, right like episode two ends,
34:45
so like Sylvie's made peace, she's working at McDonald's. She's like, this
34:49
is exactly what I want. I want a normal life. I know that
34:51
there's a million of there's millions of people living now because of me. And
34:55
then we find out very quickly once they all arrive there that a bigger plan
35:00
in place, and a bunch of these branch timelines are about to be completely
35:02
obliterated, and there's millions of lives are about to be lost. And this
35:07
is something that I honestly did not foresee because I just the chaos sat ensued
35:14
after they killed He who Remains was exactly what Sloey wanted. And I did
35:17
not foresee half of the TVA like still being you know, aligned with He
35:28
who Remains in TVA's original mission of the Sacred Timeline, right like, because
35:34
we only got a couple shots of certain TVA members who knew that they had
35:38
their lives taken from them and they wanted something else, and or members like
35:43
Mobius who didn't want to kill people who are now alive because of a branch
35:50
timeline, but wanted to maybe figure out how to deal with this in a
35:52
different way. But there's obviously a whole slew of TVA members who are like,
35:57
no, we have to get the Sacred Timeline back on track, just
35:59
like Who Remains wanted. It would have wanted, and so like, this
36:04
episode basically ends with just like you know, tons of branches being completely obliterated,
36:08
which is essentially like where the low where it all kind of starts,
36:15
and like you're in a way. I was like, well, what the
36:17
hell is the point of all this? Like everything is like back to normal
36:22
now, which technically I guess it's not, because I don't think we have
36:23
one sacred timeline. Still there's a couple of branches because they did stop it.
36:28
Yeah, there's still branches. They all got obliterated. I think,
36:31
Wait, what was the point of all this? Because, like I mean,
36:35
if the premiere is to be believed, the finale shows us the future,
36:39
right, the future vision that we saw in the premiere tells us that
36:45
the Loom is still going to get overloaded. So there's still more branches that
36:49
are going to come. Yeah, I don't I don't know. God.
36:54
Yeah, we really bum rush into that climax where they're just kicking ass,
37:00
taken down the TVA agents, the rope TV agents. Yeah yeah, right,
37:08
it happened super quick. We really don't have any answers, you know.
37:13
Sylvie goes back to the TVA for a second and it's just like heartbroken
37:15
because this is the exact opposite of what she wanted. And she's like blaming
37:19
Loki and everyone else, which you know, I can't blame her for that.
37:23
And then she goes back to her her her branch that was still there,
37:29
and you know, it just hasn't been with one of the employees,
37:31
which is like a little weird, but it's supposed to. Like, so
37:35
we meet that kid at the end of episode one. Oh yeah, the
37:40
kid definitely has a crush on her, but she's obviously too old for him,
37:45
and like she's clearly given him a ride home a couple of times.
37:47
It is very awkward. Today's it would not be appropriate episode. This is
37:53
when I was getting at with five hundred five. It has this moment where
37:59
she's looking at like their monitor and she's watching like how all the timelines are
38:04
gone, right, And she says, like, she doesn't say the timelines
38:07
are gone, she says those were people, right, which she's right.
38:10
That is like really sad, But like we as the audience don't like really
38:15
connect with that, right because like we can't imagine what that is. But
38:19
like the timeline that Sylvie was just done did have like a sweet little kid,
38:24
like who like loves his job at McDonald's, and like, I don't
38:29
know why, Like if if we wanted to feel emotion for that same why
38:30
didn't we spend more time with that character and then prone that timeline. Yeah,
38:37
that's a great point. That's a fantastic point. You're absolutely that's a
38:40
miss. That's a huge miss, because you're right, like, we didn't
38:45
Sylvie has the same reaction would have if she would horrified, but we would
38:52
have felt more more loss and we would have felt her loss more if that
38:57
would have been the result with that timeline being a blater, which it wasn't
39:00
to our knowledge, so based on the end of the episode scene, So,
39:06
yeah, that's a great point. It'll be interesting to see why if
39:09
we get a reason why, if there's if there's more to it, I
39:12
think so No, I think I think we can move on to three.
39:15
So what do you? Is there anything else? Loved it? So two?
39:19
I was like, Oh, weird are three immediately restored my faith in
39:23
this show. Not that it was lost, but I was like, uh,
39:28
oh, maybe maybe this is a sign of bad things to come.
39:30
Episode three, we follow rens Layer in miss minutes in Chicago eighteen sixty seven,
39:36
where they deliver a copy of the TVA Handbook a handbook to the eighteen
39:40
sixty eight Thank You Uh, where they deliver a copy of eighteen sixty eight
39:45
handbook to the Boy who Will become He who remains. Loki and Obs go
39:50
to eighteen ninety three, Have that right? All right? Cool? To
39:53
eighteen ninety three, the time of the Chicago World's Fair. It becomes a
39:58
rat race to Gratz who remains with all previously named parties and including Sylvie.
40:02
Miss Minutes reveals her love for Heather remains, which is wild. Loki and
40:07
Mobius managed to take he who remains to the TVA before Sylvie can kill him.
40:13
Sylvie then sends Miss Minettes and Renslayer to the end of time, where
40:16
Miss Minutes reveals she knows a secret about Renslayer. Here we are, yeah,
40:22
insane, also true, that's a that's technically timely, right, not
40:28
he he remains, so he has not become here remains, and that's a
40:34
variant that isn't correct. He remains technically right, it's a variant if he
40:37
he remains, so, it's mister, it's mister timely. But maybe it's
40:42
it's also uh okay to call he remains because I think everyone it's it's just
40:46
a nice everyone knows who you're talking about for the most part. But it's
40:51
technically a variant. It's technically a variant if he he remains called mister Timeley
40:57
who man. Yeah, it's kind of he's a swindler and he's like a
41:00
swind leer in the eighteen eighteen. He's a con man. He's a very
41:06
I was like, you know, he's actually like but he's a brilliant,
41:10
but he's actually smart. Yeah, logically out of this world objects right,
41:15
It's it's the yeah, it's the it's the classic thing of like man is
41:20
too smart in his time frame was technology has not caught up to how smart
41:24
he is. Kind of thing, right, Like it's like it was a
41:27
really cool way to do that. But before we really get into the episode,
41:31
the first thing I wrote down was the cartoony theme music. At the
41:35
beginning. It's rag time music, like the carnival asque music. At the
41:40
beginning, I was like, whoa, what is going on? Rag time?
41:44
He was like, this is very cool. So it's very cool.
41:47
And then once we got to the World's Fair. I was like, okay,
41:50
it makes sure, I guess so, yeah, very cool. I'm
41:53
not going to say his name. The man who is responsible for the MCU
41:58
like music, like the MCU like studio logo music, Michael Giachana Gichino and
42:07
bring him up. I don't know if if he's responsible for the rag time
42:10
music. He probably is because he like he does like most of their stuff.
42:15
Bring him up because he had his directorial debut last year at around this
42:22
exact time for where Wolf by Night. So after like years of like working
42:29
with Marvel in a music musical way, he got to have like an actual
42:32
like movie project with Werewolf by Night, which just had its color debut uh
42:39
this week, which we should review that. I'm just saying, that's a
42:45
that's a really fun property we should get into for the record, right,
42:51
we'll correct me. I didn't know this until I looked at up Neck.
42:55
He's responsible for the music in The Man, recently Rogue one and for the
43:06
last one, the last one. Oh yes, it's something that you guys
43:10
as disgusting. Can I try to guess it? It's out. I'll give
43:17
you a clue. It's not or Star Wars related Batman. It's old.
43:23
Oh damn, it's old. I think it ended in two thousand and talking.
43:32
Oh yeah, maybe too strong work. We both loved it when it
43:37
was on. You both cherish it. Did you imagine? Could you imagine?
43:44
Zoids? Like, what do we? Okay? Yu gi Oh,
43:47
was a dumb thing for me to say that was that was stupid? Actually,
43:50
and I don't know, I don't know why. Those are the two
43:54
things I'm thinking of. Not superhero when it was on. Wait wait wait
44:00
wait, but you said it's not superhero. Shit, No, I got
44:05
it to tell me. Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, that's
44:08
really cool. Lots nice, Oh fantastic. But yeah, I'm glad you
44:15
brought up that. Uh that's right, that's a cool little super detail.
44:17
Yeah, never apologize for you yet. And Zoid's comment anyway, moving on,
44:24
so yeah's that's facts. That's facts only, Okay. So yeah,
44:29
so we've we've got the timeline. We know where we are. We're in
44:32
eighteen ninety three Chicago World's Fair. The first like eight minutes ten minutes of
44:38
this episode, so like the second that we see Renslayer appear in eighteen sixty
44:44
eight, I was like, oh my God, we're getting we're going to
44:46
see Kang this episode, or he who remains like the variant, We're going
44:51
to see Jonathan Major's in this episode. I knew it the second that the
44:55
scene opened in eighteen sixty eight. I was like, Oh my god,
44:58
this is it. And from that moment, it was literally like I feel
45:01
like they were just like stretching a rubber band, like waiting for the moment
45:08
to see him, because it was like they were just building the anticipation for
45:13
me so well, and I was so excited. I was like, Oh
45:15
my god, Oh my god, my god, when's he gonna come,
45:16
When's he gonna go? And obviously they get a hit back at the TVA
45:22
Movieus and Loki end up in in eighteen sixty eight. They don't see anything.
45:28
They go to eighteen ninety three World's Fair and they realize quickly, okay,
45:31
this is probably a great place to look around, and they see a
45:37
cool little they see miss Minutes in a newspaper. It gives them an idea.
45:43
They so that gives them direction basically of where to go for a They
45:46
meet in this like you know, tent to esque place where there's gonna be
45:50
like a demonstration or like a showcase if you will, And still the rubber
45:54
band is like the tension is gripping, and we've got we get the silhouette
46:00
of mister Timeley, the variant of he who remains, and he's like giving
46:05
us a speech, and yeah, and then of course, like the lights
46:09
turn on and you get like a close up and you're just like, oh
46:12
my god, and and the and the fear in Loki's eyes was so good,
46:16
like Hiddleston was just He's just so awesome and you could you could feel
46:22
the fear. And Mobius is like this guy, he seems like a nice
46:23
guy, like freaking Mobius man just doesn't listen. He has no idea.
46:30
Oh man, it was so cool. It was such a cool first like
46:34
ten like whether just like to meet him or variant that didn't appreciate that enough,
46:39
because yeah, you're absolutely right, Like I forgot I looked it up,
46:44
but I forgot who directs this episode. There is such a purposeful build
46:47
up into like seeing him, and like what a great way to like show
46:52
him then like an actual showcase at the World's Fair, no less right,
46:58
So yeah, you're absolutely right, was a brilliant way to like unveil the
47:01
character. Right, that's a really cool build up. And of course he's
47:06
on stage. He's got this a loom basically that he's built back in the
47:10
eighteen hundred. It's like you're just like, oh my god, this is
47:13
like so interesting and and and I don't even know. And that's you know,
47:21
that's when we find out shortly after that, you know, he's trying
47:23
to sell his invention and he's just swindling basically any the you know, the
47:30
rich of the person, the better. It's just earning a living basically creating
47:35
real things, but also maybe not creating real things. Right, they're kind
47:38
of you know, they maybe they break or they're not like very useful,
47:42
and he's limited by his technology for you that anything you like, what else
47:51
what do you got? Oh wait, yeah, this is still and they're
48:00
inside the showcase. So this is like showcase ends and mister Timeley is trying
48:06
to sell his prototype. And you know, obviously Loki and and Mobius have
48:13
seen ren Slayer and now they're all like trying to get to mister Timely.
48:17
But Loki accidentally like runs into this big guy. He like accidentally hits this
48:22
big dude and this big guys like clearly like pissed off, and he wants
48:25
to fight Loki, and eventually Loki's just tired of arguing with him, so
48:29
he just like does magic and makes the guy disappear, and Mobias follows it
48:34
up with the amazing Loki. Everyone all right, he claps it up and
48:37
just like everyone just acts like it was like supposed to happen like that.
48:43
I was laughing. That was that was like I forgot. I definitely see
48:51
this before. Have you seen the movie Midnight in Paris? That's a That's
48:58
a top ten movie for me and girl just because I'm a sicker for the
49:01
subject matter. Not time drunk. Well, I'm actually this time travel.
49:06
It's time travel movie. Yes, yes, and Nick, here's the best
49:10
part of movie that I haven't seen. Its stars that doesn't any since,
49:17
Yeah it does. No, I'm dead serious. They are in it together.
49:22
I think, like you're kidding nine maybe twenty eleven when this is like
49:28
one of my favorite time travel movies. I love this movie. I'm not
49:34
even tell me your thoughts on it. So I'm watching this. I'm watching
49:37
this, if not tonight tomorrow. It's us a writer who wants to can't
49:45
wait to feel something. And I'll let the rest speak for itself. It's
49:50
pretty good anyway. Okay, So uh, two things. One fun note.
49:55
So at the beginning when Rensselaer Miss Minutes arrived in eighteen sixty eight in
50:02
Chicago and they go to distribute what is revealed to be the TVA Handbook,
50:09
and again I want to come back to that, you know how like we
50:14
get like the banner that says like eighteen sixty eight. I thought this is
50:17
a really interesting deta at that moment it says sacred timeline. Yeah, but
50:23
then eighteen ninety three, Yeah, eighteen ninety three sacred timeline timelineably because the
50:30
branch timeline when we see Loki and Mobius walk into it is presumably that's because
50:37
of what they did. Yeah, I'm so glad you're bringing this up.
50:45
Yeah, it's branch. It's branch because of the handbook being dropped. Yea,
50:51
which is what he here remains wanted to because that correct plan that just
50:53
goes like yet somehow a variant, you know, this variant timeline. I
51:00
thought that was a really cool detail that they threw in there, right right.
51:07
Also, so such a such a good detail interesting detail, and I'm
51:13
not sure what to make of it. So there's a moment where also I
51:16
love Owen Wilson being like deive self, where he's like, yeah, like
51:22
I'm very cerebral, I absorb the area, you know, like he's very
51:27
slow and methodical. And they come across statues of Norse gods Odin it's Thor
51:34
and it's Boulder, and they have a conversation about that. It's like kind
51:40
of emotional to see Loki like looking at them. Ends with a joke,
51:45
and the joke is funny, but I was really interested why they chose Boulder
51:51
the Brave. That's a character I don't think we've been introduced to in the
51:55
MCU yet. It is technically a son of Odin. I think, Yeah,
52:02
I just I thought it was weird, is it. I'm not sure
52:05
if like if they're just trying to say like, yeah, no one remembers
52:07
Loki, or like or if we are going to meet Bolter. I don't
52:12
know, what do you think? Oh? Right, I don't think they
52:16
don't. They don't do stuff like that off the cuff, right, Like,
52:19
I wouldn't be surprised if he's in, if he's at least in talks
52:23
and they're like, well, let's drop him in here in case we do
52:27
something with him later. So that's set up already, you know, Like
52:30
they do that stuff like that all the time. I think, right,
52:31
like they'll drop it weird, especially because like Loki's like no one's heard it.
52:37
That's a very interesting well and it's like, what's going on here?
52:45
Yeah, no, you're right, Marvel. Does they do stuff like that.
52:49
That's usually like yeah, m yeah, they they they we might come
52:53
back. They don't have everything planned out, but they do little things like
52:55
that where they're like, we're gonna do this. It doesn't mean we have
52:59
to use it later, but if we do, it'll be cool that we
53:01
did to use it now. Exactly. Yeah, totally, totally totally right.
53:06
We'll sound really smart like we had it all planned out. So yeah,
53:09
fast forward what you were saying. When we're after Victor Timley's demonstration,
53:15
the race begins, Sylvia shows up ready to kill Victor, which I'm glad
53:22
they gave an explanation for that, because when she first showed up, it
53:25
was like shows up, yep, what and then the whole thing of like
53:30
she tracked you. It was like, okay, all right, it was
53:34
quick. That's acceptable. I'll take it. I'll take it. Yeah,
53:37
we have a reason. I well, I don't think we've talked about this
53:43
yet. You were waiting for Victor, not Victor Tony, for Jonathan Majors
53:47
as King and you know, but something else I was waiting for was Miss
53:53
Minutes after the sixth episode of the first season, it was fascinated with that
54:00
character. What is she? And she she reveals that in this episode.
54:09
She she's a very sophisticated construct. She's a singularity love that joke, right,
54:17
you're quite singular, quite singular, yourself clever, and she's a singularity
54:24
that, like I guess, brings him and is in love with him.
54:29
Mm hmm. She's a super sophisticated AI that was allowed to develop her own
54:37
consciousness basically, and she's just she's like a part of hers in love with
54:43
you remains. And there was like there was like a moment where I was
54:46
like, we're in a love triangle. This is a freaking love triangle,
54:50
Like what is going on right now? It's an AI love trigle. Totally
54:53
honestly, it was. It's totally ridiculous. I'm very glad. I am
54:58
very glad that they they nipped that that was very quickly. But because I
55:04
was, I was, I was that was like what they're doing right now,
55:07
like kind of coming out of nowhere. I was like there was like
55:12
I was like, this is alarmingly hilarious, you know that kind of way
55:15
like and then very quickly yeah, of course, of course. And and
55:21
then this minutes like talks timely into throwing Rens Slayer overboard, and that that
55:24
was a big moment because then Rens Slayer realizes, Okay, maybe she's by
55:28
herself, and I love it. It's pretty much when the love triangle once
55:35
that happened. I think in a moment she drops the word look forward like
55:43
our partnership or whatever that she says in the partners so like read before that
55:47
like in the background, like this minute is like staring at them right yeah,
55:53
and then like after she says that, like Victor, thank god you.
56:00
Yeah, she very clearly like looks relaxed, and I love like what
56:02
they do here, Like they cut back to Rinslayer and then they cut back
56:06
to Victor with miss minutes in the background. This minute just like looking off
56:09
into the distance. She's got a smile on it, and she's just like
56:12
very like gently like kicking her legs like in the wind. I just I
56:16
loved how like relaxed that was. It's like that was, Yeah, that
56:21
was such a great indicator of like, ah, all going according to plan.
56:25
So weird, Yeah it you know, and and I don't hate I
56:31
don't hate that. We like this is really the first time we've seen Miss
56:36
Minutes like actually have like us. It made us realize that, like she's
56:39
how sophisticated of an AI system she actually is because she has her own consciousness
56:43
that can make her own decisions and this is all This is the first time
56:45
we're actually finding that out and even seeing it at work. Like any other
56:51
time, we could make the case that she's just doing what she was set
56:54
up to do. This was the first episode that we've seen her like yeah,
56:59
have her own you know, like will her own free will, which
57:02
is another big thing about this episode. Right, So so that was interesting
57:07
and I didn't I wasn't like against it or anything, but it was definitely
57:09
weird because it did kind of feel like it came out of nowhere, although
57:13
I guess they explained it pretty well. But yeah, like that was super
57:19
super funny. I wrote down in my notes two things. I was like,
57:22
I don't even remember what happened when I said this, but it was
57:25
like in my notes, it's like Miss Minutes and then she's crazy, I
57:31
wrote after that, she's I think she might be the most dangerous person or
57:37
a character in the show at the moment, because she is, like I
57:39
said, a AI fully singularity A singular AI was like free will. That's
57:46
so she's a cartoon cloth. Yeah, she knows everything, so she might
57:59
be the most right, she might be the most important and more miss character.
58:05
Actually what happens there before, especially because he gave light to a line
58:13
she drops in the first season. So I watched the whole first season before
58:15
coming to the first episode, and in season season one, episode two,
58:21
at the beginning, if you recall once, Loki is like on board with
58:23
the g VA and he's like gonna help Mobius with the mission. Right beginning
58:30
of that episode, he's sitting at a desk with Miss Minutes and he's I'm
58:35
not sure if he's reading the handbook or he's like going over a video.
58:37
I think he's going to a video and Miss Minutes is trying to explain something,
58:42
and he starts like swatting Miss Minutes and she's like, ah, stop
58:45
that, Hey, stop it, And Loki asked the question what are you
58:50
Are you a recording or are you alive? She says, well, kind
58:55
of both, and like it's at the time it's kind of like a quirky,
59:01
like funny line, but like looking back on it now, it's like,
59:05
oh, shure, Like there was a lot of truth in that line,
59:07
like, yeah, she's a recording and yes she's alive. It was
59:13
it was neat to see that line come full circle here right. Also her
59:17
implanting her face onto a mannequin, Yeah, super scared. You know when
59:25
we got into that room, the first thing the room was because it was
59:32
like, he's in Inventor. Why are there tons of mannequins everywhere? And
59:37
they still didn't answer that question, but it became very clear why the director
59:40
wanted mannequins in the room very fast. That was a very uncomfortable scene and
59:45
I loved it right right right, well, yeah, I liked the comparison
59:55
kind of too, right, Like there was a little bit of contrast between
59:59
Miss Minutes and that moment and Ultron because Oltron is very sophisticated AI who wanted
1:00:05
his own body and created on himself, so there is very miss minutes ends
1:00:09
up creating her own point too because if she gets powerful enough, so this
1:00:15
is gonna be very interesting to see what happens. Very interesting. Yeah.
1:00:20
In that scene though, right when they're still there, Sylvia ends up coming
1:00:22
back, and she comes back at an awesome moment. Ren Slayer is giving
1:00:27
this speech. I don't know if you recognize this, but rens Slayer is
1:00:30
giving this speech and I actually don't remember exactly what the speech is about,
1:00:37
but it's about order, right and like getting her way or whatever. And
1:00:43
the last thing that rensselayor says is I'm order. She refers to herself as
1:00:47
being order, and Sylvie appears, and in my head, I was like,
1:00:53
and there's chaos I thought of when Sylvia appeared, So I was like,
1:01:00
I wonder if that I was like they had to have done that on
1:01:00
purpose, because like Rensselaer was giving this awesome speech that ends with order,
1:01:05
and then Sylvie like appears and it's just like completely like you know, makes
1:01:09
the whole space because she's obviously trying to kill Timely. Yeah, that was
1:01:16
a cool scene. And then of course yeah because like, yeah, she
1:01:22
comes in, you know, she comes in, she's like blows everything up,
1:01:23
so everyone gets knocked out, and then she goes to to the variant
1:01:29
Timely, and Timely makes the case. It makes he fights for his life
1:01:34
and what works and Sylvie down and that she was very interested by the TV,
1:01:42
like she like they've rolled reverse, right, like yeah right, yeah
1:01:50
right, that's such a great point. That is such a great point.
1:01:54
Yeah, Sylvie's literally been him, literally her whole life. When she was
1:01:58
running from the t V A because they were hunting her for something she hadn't
1:02:01
done and she for something he had done. So I actually felt like Sophia
1:02:08
Di Martino's performance in that, like listening to Victory, Like I actually found
1:02:14
that like really touching. It was very emotional, you know, like when
1:02:17
like the realization of like what she's become and like what she's about to do
1:02:23
and how she can't go through with it. For that reason, I love
1:02:27
that performance. Yeah, yeah, she was. She was fantastic. And
1:02:36
then yeah, after that, yeah, yes, okay, So after that,
1:02:39
Loki and Mobias and Timely go back to the TVA and there's one last
1:02:47
look from Mobius to rent Layer and then Mobius walks through the door and this
1:02:53
is this is an awesome scene here at the very end of the episode where
1:03:00
you know, Sylvia and Renslayer are talking basically and Sylvie's like, I've dreamed
1:03:04
about killing you hundreds of different ways and the most gruesome ways possible, and
1:03:09
but what you really want is power, and you want to be with He
1:03:15
who remains at the time, and so you can. It's basically, I'm
1:03:23
going to send you to be with him at the end of time. Yeah,
1:03:25
I care for what you wish for a line and kicks her to the
1:03:30
end of time with He who remains his dead body. What are the totals?
1:03:37
Totally savage like h and that is an insane that was that was wild
1:03:43
because you can see that, you know, to us, it really hasn't
1:03:47
been that long. It feels like since He who Remains was killed, you
1:03:53
know, three episodes prior at the end of season one, and because season
1:03:59
two picks up right away. But his body looked pretty decayed for it being
1:04:04
so such a short time. So I wonder what the actual time slippage there
1:04:10
is. I don't know, it might yeah, it's not like, yeah,
1:04:16
there's no Yeah, it's probably aither thing. It's not like a very
1:04:21
important thing, I'm sure detail, But the important detail comes when Miss Minutes
1:04:26
comes back and uh or none of it does exactly perfectly. I did no,
1:04:41
I'm glad. I'm glad you did it. Time Travel, am I
1:04:45
right? Damn it? Come on now, I had to finish it for
1:04:54
you, time Travel, am I right? Either it all makes sense or
1:04:59
none of it does. It's got in any movie. Yeah, it's one
1:05:12
of the best, one of the best for sure. Anyway, so real
1:05:15
quick. The last the last part of this episode is Miss Minutes, Like
1:05:19
renst Slayer brings back Miss Minutes at the end of time with he who remains,
1:05:26
and Miss Minutes doesn't feel worried at all, but she drops like a
1:05:30
she drops a hint that there's a huge secret that rens Slayer doesn't know about
1:05:34
herself. And and that's like the cliffhanger we get left on which the only
1:05:43
thing I can really think of, I have no idea, any idea what
1:05:46
it could. Like the way that episode ended, it's gotta be a secret
1:05:50
that we also don't know related to like, because like rens Slayer doesn't know
1:05:58
he's already did in Boots with he who remains right, as we learned in
1:06:04
that recording, So like it's got to be something related to that. But
1:06:10
yeah, no, no idea, what though, you know what I thought
1:06:13
for a moment real quick, You know what I thought for a moment.
1:06:15
Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. I'm super excited. There was a moment.
1:06:19
Definitely the best episode. I think there's still a chance that this is
1:06:23
true. I wonder if Miss Minutes and Ravona Renslayer are the same person.
1:06:32
Yeah, like or like Ravona like maybe she doesn't make it or something,
1:06:38
and like the AI that is like based on her or something. Yeah,
1:06:44
based on her. Yeah, that's a great point too, question for you.
1:06:47
There's so many ways to go here. Every episode has had a focus
1:06:51
there gonna be very interesting. Every episode it's come up and they want us
1:06:57
to remember or Boros wrote the book. It even came up in the third
1:07:01
episode. We even see a picture of him, just in case we forgot
1:07:04
that adorable man. What is so it didn't really it didn't really sit off
1:07:09
an alarm bell until that moment, until like we see that, what do
1:07:13
you think that's about? Because like that's that's way too intentional, Like they
1:07:15
really want us to remember that. Mm hmmm mm hmm. Yeah, every
1:07:20
every episode really hit him basically for writing it very interesting. He remains like
1:07:30
like he's definitely higger deal than we and we know him as right now,
1:07:36
right, Like yeah, there's that's the thing. There's so many there are
1:07:42
so many like little things that could happen, like Loki, like we said
1:07:45
earlier in our episode here, like Loki could actually be in some weird roundabout
1:07:51
way part of the reason the TV exists, right, like or ob could
1:07:58
be a reason, right, yeah, you could go in so many different
1:08:02
It's it's a brain flog. I mean, my brain is overloading because there's
1:08:08
so many possibilities. But it's like, you know, we were led to
1:08:13
believe that like He Who Remains and Kang the Conqueror, like they're there,
1:08:16
they are the guys to worry about, but well, there are other people
1:08:21
at play who could could have played huge roles, it seems. So.
1:08:27
He says that she was the film that like tilted the scales in his favor,
1:08:32
So like, what was it the Rintler brought to the because you're in
1:08:36
that's a dangerous player there, we don't know exactly what. Going back to
1:08:42
Obi for a second, I just wanted to ask you if you were aware
1:08:45
of this, do you know what that name means? Or Boros So I
1:08:49
was only familiar with this because of my love for Full Metal Alchemist or Boros
1:08:56
is like, no, the snake that is eating itself so like it represents
1:09:00
Infinity. That's having trouble reconciling that, Thank you, sir, But but
1:09:13
that's actually I have no idea how to think about that. That's uh,
1:09:17
like Obi's Infinity game that's time travel using a Mobius strip. It was just
1:09:28
something like that. But like, now that we're in episode three, they
1:09:30
keep stressing the importance of this. Man, I'm like, all right,
1:09:33
maybe it's not just a cute name that they came up for him. Maybe
1:09:36
this is something else. It's so fun. Yeah, oh man, this
1:09:42
is interesting. I love this. This is the best Marvel TV show for
1:09:45
sure. They're crushing it. It's so good. All right, well we
1:09:48
don't we don't do scores here because we're not done yet, but we'll see.
1:09:53
We'll be back weeks with the final four. We get to the end
1:09:58
discussion on the last three episodes. So good, I don't know if this
1:10:01
is gonna happen. We don't really have any evidence of it, but I
1:10:03
hope that there's some connection to Quantumnia. The next three episodes. I hope
1:10:11
we get an explanation because there's been a lot of theories about how Scott Lang
1:10:15
came back to a different timeline after Quantumnia and how and how King isn't dead
1:10:24
because we know that King the Conqueror will return based on the end of the
1:10:28
movie. So I really, I really hope we get some kind of dot
1:10:33
connecting. And if we're not going to get an answer, I doubt,
1:10:38
but we're going to at least maybe have another, like another little piece of
1:10:45
evidence on like what possibly has happened that I hope we get a bread crumb
1:10:48
at least the very least that links us somehow to Quantumnian King the Conqueror,
1:10:54
that would be. That's what I hope happens somehow. But I really really
1:11:00
don't have things. I have no idea what like this is. It's it's
1:11:04
really exciting. What about episode one? Also here's my two more wild X
1:11:15
five recruited Mobius into the TV And also time Pie is a thing I don't
1:11:21
know what the last one means. I don't know what it means, but
1:11:26
it's a thing, a thing. Listen of all them, of all of
1:11:31
them. I hope you're well being insanity that time Pie actually are being a
1:11:35
thing, because I think you'll be more disappointed here we are not just because
1:11:42
we're run out of time doesn't meanmore. Uh well, we'll be there in
1:11:45
three episodes from now, But until then, neither of you bes