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08 Buju Banton: Too Too Bad and Built to Last · The Heavy Hitter DJs Podcast

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  SPEAKER_03: This is Americ Studios Podcast on this week's show.
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_04: Artists must always seek to reinvent himself because you're as good as your last record.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_04: So it's always about reinventing yourself and do not get stuck and become sick like doing the same thing because it creates monotony to the ears of the listener.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_04: Sometimes you, the person, you're, you know, someone who stepping filth don't smell it, and it's the other person smell it.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_00: And three, two, one, I'm DJ enough.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm DJ Camelo.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'm DJ Cast One, and I'm Lem Book, aka L Book.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_00: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, everyone worldwide, this is the Heavy Headed DJs Podcast.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_01: What's up, everybody?
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's another episode.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_01: We're back at it again, the Heavy Headed DJs Podcast.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_01: You got myself DJ Cast One alongside my illustrious host.
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  SPEAKER_01: They go by the name of The Heavy Headed DJ Enough.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_08: Live from Queens, New York, DJ Camillo.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_08: And yours, Julie, Shortman Movements, Brooklyn Zone.
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  SPEAKER_08: You already know what it is.
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  SPEAKER_01: And today with us, we are blessed to have an illustrious guest in the building, the one and only man needs no introduction.
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  SPEAKER_01: Booju Bantan.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's the Bujo in the building, baby.
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  SPEAKER_05: Boojo, what's up, my guy?
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_04: It's a stretch, but I mean, Indiana.
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  SPEAKER_03: Love you, brother.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_08: That's so good.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_08: Give up yourself, Gaga Mel.
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  SPEAKER_08: Well, go on.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_04: I'm here, man.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you very much for inviting me in the program.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_04: What's up, every Itas?
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, we are here.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_01: We're glad to have you along with us.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you check, you checking in for him.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's a nice office you went, bro.
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  SPEAKER_01: Where are you in?
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_01: Where are you, man?
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_04: I'm in my office, actually, yeah.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_04: Nice.
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  SPEAKER_04: Nice.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, Bouju, let's get right into it, man.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_01: Tell us what's going on, what's new in the Boujo Bantan universe?
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  SPEAKER_04: We have a brand new album called Too Too Bad that comes your way on July the 17th.
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  SPEAKER_04: We promises to give you dance art in its raw, explicit form, but yet entertaining and invigorating.
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  SPEAKER_04: Man.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_04: Also, there's a song on this album called Every Eaters.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_04: Every Eaters.
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  SPEAKER_05: This man camp and kicker steal to the don't say that.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_05: Don't say that.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_05: Don't say that.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, student.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_05: I have a question.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_05: What you represent man inslaming lit?
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_06: No, that's crazy.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_05: I love it.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_05: We need that exclusive before that draft, baby.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_05: Oh no, we need that.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_05: When is the album in England, bro?
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_05: You know, penetration is what needed you guys in mind, but it fits.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_05: Definitely.
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  SPEAKER_08: Definitely.
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  SPEAKER_04: So the 17th of July comes your way.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: So our first single is out.
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  SPEAKER_04: We just got butterflies.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_04: And we're covered.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_03: That butterfly record is serious.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, it's a good idea.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_04: We go for the read drum and the read bass.
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  unknown: Yeah.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_06: Taking it back to foundations.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_03: You know what, you know what's special about Booju, man?
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_03: What's that?
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_03: His voice.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like some people, uh, you know, Guru said this from from um Gangstalk back in the days, right?
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_03: He had a record called uh something about the voice.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_03: I forgot I'm I'm probably I'm probably messing up the quote.
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  SPEAKER_03: But some people could rap, but some people just don't have the voice.
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  SPEAKER_03: But you have the voice.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's a hundred percent.
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  SPEAKER_04: The voice is magical.
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  SPEAKER_04: But most importantly, I believe I've got a heart.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, of course.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, the vice chakra work with a heart chakra.
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  SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_04: I when there's a synchronicity, it's all the goodness.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yo, last time I saw Booju, he came to uh Avalon Nightclub for my birthday party.
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  SPEAKER_06: It was years ago, brother.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_06: A thousand moons ago.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, before you went in for a little bit, and I was like, wow.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: And he did it out of love, and I always loved him for that.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_04: We're from the old school where you know the law of reciprocity lives.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_04: You know, instead of anomaly, uh always a check.
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  SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_04: Sometimes it's from here to see a brother win.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
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  unknown: Yeah.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_07: Talking about old school, I like I gotta take it back to the days.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_07: Like 95 for me, I was super young.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_07: And back in the days, we used to cut out of school and do parties, right?
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_07: So we used to call, you know, it was like a basement party, right?
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_07: And then when you, you know, everybody grinding, that was the the vibe, the move.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_07: And when like the record champion would drop, we all walk like a champion.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_07: Yo, I like that to me is memories from back in the days, and that like like Enough said, that voice stands out, man.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_07: That record, that song for me was everything that summer, bro.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_04: Like for me, just like the painter would take his brush and paint something, and the canvas would just become alive.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_04: Our job is to paint a musical picture where the music mark timelines and remind us about special events in our life while we're growing and while we're you know I mean, emerging.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_04: You know, and that's what good music does, and I'm sure there are quite a few songs in the hip hop community that does the same.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_04: You know, absolutely.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_04: Uh I cannot forget um the the show with Sleek Rick and that was actually my breaking out into getting accustomed to the hip-hop training and that that was the show.
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  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_04: Slick cricket and roll vibe.
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  SPEAKER_04: So I hear that.
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  SPEAKER_07: Uh 1985.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yes, you were.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_07: 1985.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_07: When when I when I was coming up, like uh there was also like a time where it was like um a lot of reggae hip-hop songs being put together.
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  SPEAKER_07: There was a time, I remember P.F.
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  SPEAKER_07: Cutting from East New York, he would always play these records, and it was just reggae tunes behind the hip-hop beats, and that became something like even when Super Cat jumped on our um uh Man, Refresh My Memory Enough.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yes, yes, yes.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_07: You know, there was that era of uh reggae hip-hop, hip-hop, reggae.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, in the 90s, we had a great relationship with the hip-hop RB community.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_04: People tend to someone wanted something different on their record, they'll find a beanie man, they'll find an elephant man, they'll find a booty pantan, they'll find a macabre or a chabaran's because it will bring something different to the record, and a good AR always wanted to have something different with a different flow to captivate a new demographics, you know.
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  SPEAKER_04: So in those days, the music was people people loved music.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_07: You know, I mean, I mean, growing up in New York City, like hip-hop and reggae was like hand in hand.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_07: Six, seven.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_07: But you know, hand in hand.
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  SPEAKER_07: It had to like you did a hip-hop set, you had to do a regga, a dance hall set.
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  SPEAKER_07: You had to.
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  SPEAKER_07: Like it was just hand in hand.
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  SPEAKER_07: And for me, for me, it was the time where I was playing hip-hop back then.
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  SPEAKER_07: It was very aggressive, right?
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  SPEAKER_07: But when you wanted to get the girls happy, dance hall.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_07: Reggae.
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  SPEAKER_07: And it was always hand in hand in New York back in the 90s for me.
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  SPEAKER_07: Like, it was a must.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_04: And there were so many venues that contribute to the growth of the music as well.
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  SPEAKER_04: There was quite a few number of venues that facilitate dancer and music and the clubs also, you know what I mean?
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_04: So, I mean, you guys play a pivotal role in that as well.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_04: No disrespect.
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  SPEAKER_04: You guys play a great major role in the promulgation of this music over the years.
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  SPEAKER_04: I want to say thank you for the Jamaican reggae community, dancer community.
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  SPEAKER_04: Thanks a lot.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yes, sir.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_01: So I have a question for you, Boujo, because like, even though, you know, to Camilo's point, because he's talking about older, like older school vibes, you've been a part of like, let's say somebody like my life, like you've been a part of my musical journey from beginning till now, right?
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_01: No, serious, so serious.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, like my first reggae album that I bought was Till Shiloh, and I was a young kid.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, exactly.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was my first one that I bought and had this.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_01: But let me tell you, yeah, I I bought this, I actually had the CD, bro, and it was like, you know, so you've been, and not just my life, but a whole bunch of people that are my age group, like you've been literally a constant throughout our whole life from then to now, still relevant, still consistent, still putting out music, and still making songs that people um enjoy.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_01: Can you speak to like that longevity?
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_01: How because there's not too many artists that can that we can say that about, you know, and especially international artists.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_01: There's not many international artists you can say that about, you know.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_01: So, how do you think you've been able to maintain this type of uh production, love, and respect from the from all communities that enjoy listening to your music, brother?
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_06: I had a great manager, his name is Mr.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_06: Donovan Jermaine, who always tells me an artist must always seek to reinvent himself because you're as good as your last record.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_04: And I'll just say that.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_04: So you have to reinvent yourself because every every every year a demographer changes 10 years old, a demographic is 12, or demographic.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_04: Same here, but people a group goes up.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_04: So you have to keep captivating and garnering new adherence to your music and your culture.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so you have to keep reinventing yourself.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_04: Not like they're gonna throw away your pearls and your values, but you will have to toe the line to make sure that you're connecting with a future generation who's gonna take the music further.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_04: So it's always about reinventing yourself and do not get stuck and become cyclical doing the same thing because it creates monotony to the ears of the listener.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_04: Sometimes you the person, you're you know, someone who stepped in filth don't smell it, you know, it's the other person who smells it.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_04: So you the you the person who is singing the song, you don't know.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_04: It's the listeners be like, oh, give me something different, you know what I mean?
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_04: So you have to keep something you have to fall back, observe, yeah, go back to your drawing board.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_04: Sometimes tear up your drawing board and create a new one.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_04: Right effort to connect and to reinvent yourself and to stay relevant with the masses, you're not chasing it, you know.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_04: It comes naturally, only if you apply yourself.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_07: I think I think that also goes for DJs because um, you know, times change so fast, especially now, everything changes so fast, and the sound and this, and if you're stubborn, we'll be like, no, these new guys, you know, this is sound like trash.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_07: And if you don't sit there and understand and study, you're gonna lose it.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_07: You're not gonna evolve.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_04: We were once where they are.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_04: And we face the same criticism they are facing.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_04: But we pull through, and the reason why we're here is because we did not stuck ourselves in what we knew.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_04: You understand?
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_04: Our glass wasn't filled to the brim, it was half empty.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_04: That means there's a capacity for us to have something else pour inside of our glass.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_04: And that's why we're here to transcend time and to be an inspiration to those who seek to be a part of the crowd because we are all vital.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_04: I make the music, you play it.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_04: And so the synchronicity of us both and the realistic appeal where we both encounter in being relevant.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_04: Is indeed relevant.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, man.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_08: That's a fact.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_08: Bojo, let's talk about butterfly, man.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, sir.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_08: Butterfly.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_08: Let me tell you something.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_08: Alright, you know, I watched Joe and Jada.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_08: We're big fans of Joe and Jada.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_08: That same day it premiered.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_08: Mind you, I'm watching it, then you on there, and then you say, yo, brand new Bojo, boo, boo, boo.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_08: Mind you, I did not know what to expect, to be honest.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_08: Once I'm, mind you, I'm playing it and I'm playing it loud in the crib too.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_08: And come on.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_08: The from the drop, I said, oh shit.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_08: And mind you, just the reaction off the guys on the chair, mind you.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_08: Fat Joe and Jada now.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_08: Just react, and then what?
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_08: And then the drop happened.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_08: Boom.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_08: Bro.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_08: I was like, nah, Blue Ju's on a whole nother wave now.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_08: Like you brought back that wave again, bro.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_07: That sound, man.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_07: Facts.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_07: And I think it was so needed.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_07: It was so needed.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_07: Like it's not there.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_04: That's weird.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_06: That's where the ability to be saying it now for my God.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_04: That's where the ability to step back and observe and look at things.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_04: Because you cannot see your shot and start and moving water, you know.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_04: So you have to step back, observe the marketplace, observe what is being produced.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_04: Look at the reaction.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_04: Because I was also taught not to really listen to the noise of the market, but focus on the receipts.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_04: Because the hall can be free when you never make a dollar.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_04: That's smart.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_04: The ability to step back and analyze the market and see what's missing.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_06: It's also you have to have a knock for it.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_06: Bro.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_08: I was like, nah.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_08: And then now I got to play on the sound system, hear it in a club or whatever.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_08: Bro, the knock is serious.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_04: Well, yeah, it's true.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, bro.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, beast and that high, that mid range, and that body.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_04: You run up your body and you feel like, oh, yes.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_04: Nah, telling you, bro.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_04: That's what music's supposed to do for us.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_04: It's supposed to bring us in a space that, you know what I mean?
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's a that's a that's a different space.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_04: And that was it was intended for, you know, to you know what I mean?
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_04: Stimulate us.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_08: They're like, right.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_08: Yes.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, man.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_03: Easy enough, what's up?
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_03: I'm feeling good, man.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_03: I'm glad you're here.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_03: Loving it.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yo, can I actually question?
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_03: What does the word ragamuffin mean?
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_03: Ragamuffin's rune boy.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_06: Alright, hold on.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_03: You know why I'm asking this question?
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_03: You guys are all gonna laugh.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_03: The first time I heard that record was, I mean, that that that name or whatever.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_03: It was probably in the early 80s, right?
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_03: But then I was home with the family and we were watching an old movie that came out in 1964 called Mary Poppins.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_03: And in the movie Mary Poppins, she there was a bum or something on the street, and she called him a ragamuffin.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_03: So I was like, I'm confused now.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_03: Is this an English word?
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, it's an English word because remember that Jamaica was out of the six.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_03: That part I understand.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_04: But what we have done over the years, we have turned we have coined most of these uh English words into our parochial phrases.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_04: A different meaning to them and different context to them.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_04: Because a ragamuffin is a very important thing.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_03: Very important.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_03: See?
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_07: I like that question because I didn't even know.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_07: Yes, yes, man.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's important.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta understand these things.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: That's fire.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, oh actually, you know what?
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: I just I was just thinking about something, and I, you know, we've crossed paths in different times.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, you don't know me, you never really, but we've crossed paths in certain times.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_01: Like I've seen you in certain places.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_01: So the last time I saw you was at the Vibes Cartel show in Brooklyn.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, yes.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we were on the riser, Bouju comes in, everybody's showing Boujo love, but Bouju, he literally came in there, you got you got your area, and you was watching the show and feeling the vibes, watching Vibes Cartel do his thing.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_01: And it got me to thinking, like, you know, you've been in the music, you've been in the music business and making songs for so long.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like, when you see newer young artists, which are the ones that stand out to you and actually make you feel like, yo, this young artist has something?
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_04: Or, you know, just those are topics that I try to steal away from because I think they're a bit controversial, even if it's my opinion and it's from an honest point of view.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_04: But he showing Vivescott in love is real and it's natural because guess what?
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_04: He suffered, and I have suffered, I would know the pain that that suffering caused.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_04: So it's only right, and I support him and see him getting flowers and giving him space and giving him in flowers and make him do a thing.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_04: Because at the end of the day, we have a unity and we have to make sure that the younger generation see that this unity didn't just appear.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_04: It comes from a true innate place where all of us are children of the con.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_04: We're our mothers and farmers who came from the death of poverty.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_04: And through the halls of music, we're able to change our lives.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_04: And the fans make it possible.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_04: So we have to show unity.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_07: Speaking of unity, I mean, I don't want to go be all over the place, but um we asked we had Vaz Cartoon on the show, and we asked him for his top five.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_07: I think it was top five, top three um dance hall artists.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, and you was you was number one or two or three, I forgot.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_07: But you was on that list.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_04: I signified for you in layman's terms.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_04: Life's garden is definitely in my top three.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_04: What about that?
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_04: Nice.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_06: Alright.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_06: Good, yeah.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_03: We definitely have you number one.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_03: And I always ask them, we also asked vibes what his top three favorite Jamaican dishes to eat.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 18:14
  unknown: Yeah.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_04: I'm on I'm on different when it comes to what I delight in, I know.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_04: Certain things I don't really like to expose.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_04: People can know what you think, people can know who you create, but the things that you love to eat, I I'm and keep certain things on a level.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_04: I don't intend to shred the mystery and the enigma for Boju Bantanis.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, but rest in peace.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_04: I do, I do consume, yes, things to keep myself healthy, and I do ingest things to make sure that I can do the work that the Lord needs me to perform.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_03: That's good.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_03: Goodbye.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_03: Good work.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_03: I think we need all that anyway.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, for sure.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_05: For sure.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_05: For sure.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, my brother.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_05: So, you know what I'm saying?
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_05: This album here now possesses 16 tracks.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_04: But I'm giving you three separate rollouts.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_04: I'm giving you different tracks on the CD, different tracks on the vinyl.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, and on the streaming platform, you're getting different tracks as well.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_04: So I mean, we want to make sure that the music is fully represented and dance all and dancer lovers can reminisce right on a time and still feel present into the in the moment because the music is of such.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, work with me.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yo, coming in from the chat, they want to know what was one of your wildest shows you ever performed at.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_06: One of my wildest shows I ever had to perform at was I think Barbados.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_06: Oh.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_04: They oversold the event.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_04: And the event was so oversold that the very audience one supposed to be performing for was literally on the stage.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_04: You get to a point that the fire marshal had to put me through a window.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_06: No crazy.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_04: No way.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_04: What year was that?
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_04: Uh what was it when I was 19, 20?
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_04: When I was 19 years old, I was just coming into the coming into the performance scene and when I was just young and just ready to throw it all out there because, you know, this is what we love to do.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_04: And our people in the Caribbean, they saw me first before anyone in the world saw who Bojabanton was Barbados.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_04: Antigua, we call Antigua Wadly.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_04: You know, uh Trinidad, especially.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_04: You know.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_04: These places, the Cayman Islands, these places saw Bojabanton, and they felt the voice.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_04: The voice resonated across the ocean.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_04: So when I went to visit them to do my first performance as a young man, I was very green, but then it was also a learning experience for me.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_04: So these things was like, you know.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_04: Then again, my next experience was I was in San Francisco and one of my concerts was actually Fireband.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_04: And everyone ran away from the concert, and I was the only one standing on the stage with about with about two of my band members who wanted to leave but could not because the situation did not offer them that that that that egress.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_04: So those are two of the moments beyond that.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_04: There are moments where I'm so caught up into what I'm doing for the people on another level that you know I'm just connecting, and that's to me is most important, you know.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_04: You know, because the moments, while the moments are going on, I have a moment that's taking place too.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_06: And we'll be right back.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_06: And now, back to the show.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_03: How do you feel joining back forces with VP Records after all these years?
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_03: I was surprised.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_04: VP records to me, they have they know how to.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_04: To market reggae music, dance on music.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I've tried working with several other conglomerates, but somewhere along the line the vision gets lost.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_04: But we're working with someone who has been selling records in the hearts of Kingston before the music is what it is today, and the financial rewards that are now attached to it is now attached to it.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_04: So they under yes, sir.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_04: Randy.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_04: So they understand the foundation and how the demographics respond to this particular music, where it should be marketed and how it should be preferred, you know what I mean, so to speak.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_04: So work with them with me.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_04: I keep it professional, so don't I maybe I don't have the same angst that other people might have because I do my business and due diligence when I do business with people.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_04: So therefore, I have nothing to say more than good things.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_08: That's good, man.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_08: Love that.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_08: Any tours?
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_08: Anything?
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_04: Anyway, and Steve Marley goes out on the road.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_04: Ironically, we hit the road on the 17th of June.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_04: The 17th of June is when the world tour goes out.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_04: We once can come, meet Budja Banton, meet Steve Marley, have your photos.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_04: Let's go.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I mean get your t-shirt specially signed and get street specialists.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_04: Bring your early motherflies.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_04: Come on over because he tends to spoil you off.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_07: Who's you?
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_07: I got a question.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_07: Coming up in the game, you know, you young, 19, 20, 21, dropping all these banging classic records.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_07: Outside like you being back home and looking at hip hop, like, is there anything that standed out?
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_07: Artists that you're like, wow, I love this rap, I love this artist, I love this group, I want to do a song with them.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_07: Or any on the hip-hop side of things, give me some context.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_04: I was first signed to Mercury Polygram Record when I was like 19 years old.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_04: And I at one point was the opening act for Brian McKnight.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_04: Actually, we only did a couple of shows, and you know what I mean?
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_04: My crowd reaction towards me was exceptional because they gave me a piece of the stage.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_04: And as an opening act, you had no talk, so it'd just be at the tip of the stage.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_04: But when I finished with the audience, it's like the audience was finished with it.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_04: Then I I did a thing for Tony, Tony, Tony.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_04: You know, whereas also, you know, in those days you would have called Jack the Rapper in Atlanta.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_06: And the music minds would meet, and you know what I mean?
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_06: So yes.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_04: But working internationally and seeing how these brethren's operate, I always aspire to work with people of that caliber who are very, very musical and want to see and want to make music with different color, different flame, different you know I mean quite a few, and that's also another controversial topic, but I would say when the opportunities arise, we will cease them.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_04: But we work with a lot of people and we see that um working with people is also great because now we're in a world where collaborations are more rated and more noted and even singles.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know when we get there, but we have to be going with the tide.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_04: So a lot of collaborations are being done, and I'm hopeful and open to work with anyone who have good taste in music and is willing to apply themselves like I do.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_06: That's for sure.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, man.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_06: Like that.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_01: And and speaking about rappers, you know, you've done a lot of notable things with a lot of notable big rappers.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: How how did the link up with Kanye come about?
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_01: Because when that song came out, uh there was a lot of people saying, Is that Boujo?
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_01: That's Boujo.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_01: Because at first, when it first dropped, it didn't say that it was you.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_01: But everybody said, yo, that's that Boujo on that record.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_01: And how you know, I'm just interested in how that came about, the the believe what I say.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_04: That came about beautifully well.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_04: It was right in the midst of COVID time, and everyone was in the height of fear.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_04: I, you know, there are some of us who remain consistent and forceful and adamant that fear shall not be the guiding factor for life.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_04: Kanye was one of those persons who bravely came to Jamaica in that time when we were sitting in my studio and you know making some music because actually I have two boys' homes with 120 boys, and he's one of the only rappers, one of my only friends in the industry wherever I helped me to assist those boys.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_04: Like he gave them computers, he helped me to build another musical department for them too.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_08: Wow.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_04: And he helped me to get more musical instruments for my boys, 120 boys, who trying to change them lives.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and in the height of that, we were making music.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_04: So when that song came on, that song resonated with me because you know I mean, I spent a lot of time with the Fujis back in the days, you know, when Miss Hill was doing her first concert at the Cameo Theater in Miami.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_04: I was their special guest.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_04: Wow, cameo, cameo.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_04: So that song meant something, and you know.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_04: He said if I liked it, and I said yes, and you know, good guy, so we just made the music work, and I'm telling you one thing that's a guy with a that's a creative genius right there.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_04: So I'll leave it on that.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_03: Nice, man.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_03: I got a question.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_03: What made you what made you uh make a song about Mr.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_03: Bogle back in the days?
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_04: Mr.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_04: Mr.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_04: Bogle, otherwise known as Mr.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_04: Walking Stein, rest in peace.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_04: Ragamuffins are trendsetters.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_04: We're the ones who brought the fashion, we're the ones who brought the trends, we are the ones who brought the styles, we're the ones who brought the dance, we're the ones who brought the fresh ride, the motorbikes.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_04: Ragamuffin do that.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_04: You understand?
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_04: So when a ragamuffin like Bogle stepped into the ring and start to move, you know, it was it was a he didn't only come with dancing, he came with a lot of talk.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_04: He would get on the mic and say things that up to this day his guys go on the mic and mimic.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_04: So he was a legend in his own right, and he came up at a time when the dance that he was doing, his name is actually Bogle.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_04: His name is Bogle, otherwise known as Mr.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_04: Walkenstein.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_04: So the dance that he was doing, the whole country was loving it.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_04: So I had to pay some.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_04: I have never leave Jamaica, so I didn't know what the world was doing.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_04: I can only talk about my environment.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_04: And it was imperative for me to give him his flowers, and I'm so happy and elated that I did because he's no longer with us, but the memory and the music lives on.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_04: So much so that when I was going for my first reggae song fest in 1995, somewhere there about, he was backstage and was talking to Papa San.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_04: And then he came over to me and said, You go up on the stage, I said, Yeah, man.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_04: Next thing we know, when um Sagittarius band with Derek Barney started to play the rhythm, I see him on the side of the stage and I said, Mr.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_04: Wacky!
• 29:01
  unknown: Yeah.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_04: And he came and he's up the world stage at reggae song Sun Splash and give the world the Bogle dance right on the stage, right beside me.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_04: Next thing happened though, I went to London and I was playing, and was still 19 years old.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_04: I was playing my first concert in a prestige judge venue called Hammersmith LaPalay in Shepherd's Bush.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_04: And when I look in the audience, I saw a bogle.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_05: Right, right.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, those things are historic because this is this is a synergy that I was speaking about earlier, how we help each other, and you know what I mean, because we know where we're coming from and how our people suffered.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_04: Many of us did not get the opportunity to be great in the classroom, but through the doorway of music, we have been able to feed ourselves and live a crime-free life.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_03: You know how crazy that dance was?
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_03: I've seen and I've seen, listen to me.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_03: Listen to me, short man.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_03: I've seen a six foot five, three hundred-pound man do the bogel.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_05: Like, what?
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_05: You know how massive that guy was.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_07: That's classic, man.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_07: Crazy.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_07: Classic, bro.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that must that must have touched your heart being on stage in London and you know, looking at the crowd and somebody boggling, you're like, damn, this is like worldwide.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_07: Like, gotta hit the heart, man.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_06: In those days, I mean, we still are a moving factor in culture.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_04: Where modern culture is concerned, we are still a moving factor.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_04: We have great runners, great musicians.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_04: Our young men who are coming into music are making a name for themselves, owning a part for their for themselves, connecting with their generation on their terms, and still connecting to people on the wider outskirts on their terms.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah?
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_04: So they're still we're still making an impact.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_07: I think I think, you know, even with hip-hop being created back in the days, you know, we gotta give it up so much for Jamaican culture because even uh our first DJs were Jamaican.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_07: And they were on the ones bringing out the systems in the park, and that's all that Caribbean influence.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_07: Like and and I maybe hip-hop wouldn't have been without what it is now without that.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_04: The catalysts, the the the um the the pioneers, the pioneer before us.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_04: We have to pay homage to them.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_04: The thing that with the issue what we're having now is those who keep who are in the game now pay no respect to those who come and they came and saw, and those who paved the way before them.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_04: So that's a major issue to content meeting on it.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_04: You know, now our music is primarily based on beef.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_04: And beef apparently sells where love is now redundant, and uh things that really matter are not being said, but you know, when you come out of that area of thought, you still have to face the realities that exist in the world.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_03: But we're gonna change that right now, right now, because this is love.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_03: And we are all we do is exude love.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_03: We don't want to teach them a lesson.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_03: That's it.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_03: That's it, King.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, I think I think when you get older, you start to realize, and you know, when you're young, you know that term young and dumb, you know, you're not thinking, you just go in and and and we have to teach.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_07: We have to teach.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_07: And and I never want to grow old.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_04: Nobody does.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_04: Nobody does.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_04: We we we say we use the word generation because we suffer from a generation, uh generational situation where I don't know if we didn't teach the generation behind us enough or we didn't spend enough time imparting what we know and then, or it's a situation where we can't, or a situation where they don't want us to.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_04: But there's a clearly a disconnect where we cannot say that we are owner because it's a number.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_04: You know, if you can still if you can relate to the a young man, that's what he wants.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_04: If you can relate to that relate to their situation, your their pain relate to what they're going through.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_04: You can't we always have a philosophy in Jamaica.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_04: We keep people around us who are younger than us.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_04: Old people around here get old.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_04: No disrespect.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_04: We don't kill champions, we raise them.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_07: I think and then for for DJs, at least I speak for myself.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_07: I think music keeps me young and and and and happy.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_07: You know what I'm saying?
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, same here.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_07: 100%.
• 33:48
  unknown: Same.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_06: 100%.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: 100%.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_06: He's good music though.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_06: Oh man.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_08: Yo, Bojo, let me ask you this.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_08: Let me ask you this.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_08: So, what are some of the artists that inspired you, man?
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_08: What are you doing?
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_04: I'm inspired by very I'm inspired by people who can use their vocal like a like an instrument.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_04: I'm inspired by people who are able to enounce these in such a way that the words send a chill down your spine.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_04: I'm inspired by people who are able to play with such a riff that you can actually visualize the person's finger moving on the keyboard or up and down the fret of the bass or the guitar.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_04: You know?
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_04: And there are many great people, Jake, from the James Brown to Michael Jackson's to Bob Marley's to the Peter Tosh.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_04: We came to a part that we I did not invent this on my own, broadcast.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_04: I learned from me.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_04: I might borrow a little bit of this one's vocal alignment, borrow two steps from this one because the way he rocks when the music hits him, and we learn from each other.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_04: But for me to say, you know what I mean?
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_04: It's a whole body, a whole cultural melting pad comes together to make the whole essence of Boju Bantan who he truly is.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_04: Plus traveling, meeting other people, the dynamics of that also have an impact.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_04: You follow me?
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_04: Boy, I say my son oof.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_05: No, it's a good drop tap, you know.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_05: That's beautiful.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_07: Oh man.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_07: For me, listen, I always got to bring up the DJs because, you know, this is a DJ podcast.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_07: But like for me, traveling is is like like, you know, the the times that I've gotten to DJ in Japan, I've gotten to I went to Russia, uh, you know, and to see the music that we grew up on and playing it out there and the reaction even bigger than back home.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_07: To me, that's everything.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's everything.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_05: One thing I'm gonna say, congratulations.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_05: Traveling for a DJ has become much more light, and we need to just travel that tom drive.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_07: 100%.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_05: 100%.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_05: Once a DJ could be traveled, cases of records, right?
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_05: Oh the airport, castle with the airline, get to air, one of the cardbox didn't show up.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_05: Number DJ, you know, you love the sum drive, right?
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_05: And the throttle, huh?
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_05: You know you know the DJ struggles, man.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_05: You know, you know three items, and all three items can hold in your shoulder back, and you're after the next gig.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_07: That's the life one becoming you would have the emergency stash here just in case the other's records didn't make it.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_07: Like, yeah.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_04: Let's analyze it.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_04: That's the pros and cons of where we are.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, we just talked about that, didn't we?
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_04: Of moving on the physical record, which was to us the pros, yes, because there are so many things that come with a physical record, but it becomes cumbersome to move around with 3,000 records, 400 records, 500 records, 600 records to go play at seven different events and risk damaging your product.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_04: So the advent of the thing becoming micro, macro.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_04: It's good, right?
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_04: 100%.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_04: But it's also a caveat because we lose a major essence.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_04: The great when you put that needle on the turntable and you hear that yeah, yeah, it gives you such a feeling that a lot of people have never experienced.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_07: No, I miss that too.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_07: I really do miss that.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_05: You know, technology is a beautiful thing, and and uh of course, you know the water on your record to avoid the bumps all the time.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_01: And if you play your records outside, they're gonna warp.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna be like, oh no, you can't play them in the side, no.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_05: The beauty of getting a new record was always to hold it up and rub it on your leg, right?
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_05: To make sure you open it up, right?
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_05: Open it and then rub the front and take your stuff for them, turn it sideways and put it back in.
• 38:16
  unknown: Right.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_07: Yo, I've scratched the record by accident and then grabbed the needle and try to fix the groove, you know, pressing down on the needle.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_07: And you know, I've been I I've actually done that.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_07: Like I fixed the groove on the needle and fixed the record, and okay, I could use it now, and I have to buy another one, which is crazy.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_04: Um, the things that we used to do, because remember now, guys, your job is to keep the party lively.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_04: Your job is to communicate effectively.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_04: Your job is to transmit uh an emotion to because if you're in a bad mood, Nigel, you're gonna go out there and play in a bad mood.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_04: In a great mood, everyone is gonna be happy.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_07: You know, I also I also gotta big up, I gotta big up all the Caribbean selectors.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_07: Like I watch, I watch like the Jamaican DJs, DJs sometimes, and their energy's next level, bro.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_07: Like, it's next level, man.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_07: The entertainment, the mic game, yeah, the bringing down the music, talking to the crowd, and then brah, you know, throw throwing something on and then bringing it back.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_07: Like I've learned a lot just sitting back.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_07: Like I used to watch Bobby Cons and Jabba, man.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_07: They used to be the best ones at Summer Jam.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_07: I used to just watch them rock.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_07: And and to me, I've I've learned a lot from like Caribbean DJs, because it's like they take it next level.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_07: You feel me?
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_04: The DJs, the DJs are very important.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_04: Like I said, let me reaffirm that point.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_04: The DJs are very important.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_04: And what needs to happen is a global organization like you know, a DJ conference like that used to happen, a Jack the Rapper, where all you guys come together because you guys are really the market movers, you know.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_04: And also gatekeepers if you want to be.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but you have the opportunity to shape culture, shape consciousness.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_04: 100% things and move, move, move a whole generation musically.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_04: Because if it's hot, it's got a chop.
• 40:08
  unknown: Right?
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, remember, look on for every eaters on the brand new album.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_05: It's a dedication to the Every Eaters gang, you know.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_06: Woo! Let's go.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_06: There you go.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_01: We like to thank you, Bouju, for taking time and hanging out with us, man.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_01: But I know you're super busy.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_01: And everybody, make sure you support Boujo's album and all his endeavors.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, yes, it's called Two Too Bad, the brand new album.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_05: Two too bad comes your way July 17th.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_05: July 17th.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_05: Let's go.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_05: Remember, look out because we're on the road.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_05: DJ enough, come in on Sharkman movement, caso, long for no.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_03: We are going forward.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you, King.
• 41:04
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• 41:13
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• 41:15
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• 41:18
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