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Make Black America Great... Again? Feat @Hashtag_Marien (part one) · So Shameless

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  Speaker 1: If you know what I'm saying, so so shameless, if
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, socialhamous, so shameless, so so so shameless,
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  Speaker 1: if you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, so shameless, if you know what I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: so shameless.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 3: Jesus.
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  Speaker 4: So you know that image of Jesus is just a
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  Speaker 4: random white man.
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  Speaker 5: That is not the Jesus. That Jesus never looked like.
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  Speaker 2: That is not it's actually what's his cisar Burgari or
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  Speaker 2: something I can't cousin, like the one of them the
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  Speaker 2: master painters or something from Europe is like their cousin
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  Speaker 2: or no, no, no, no, no something Borgia is his name, says
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  Speaker 2: or Borgia or something. He was part of the family
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  Speaker 2: of the pope, and but it was it's very messy.
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  Speaker 2: He's actually they're very terrible people and for some reason,
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  Speaker 2: his his likeness is what was used to create the photo.
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  Speaker 4: So don't think of Jesus as a white.
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  Speaker 3: But that's a big problem going into the Catholic Church.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm not a Catholic, and I would debate.
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  Speaker 2: I debate Catholics and their doctrine all the time. I
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  Speaker 2: think that they do love God, but their doctrine is
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  Speaker 2: just it's not of Christ.
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  Speaker 3: Any time I see the image of blond hair doesn't
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  Speaker 3: make any sense, I'm already on board.
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  Speaker 2: That person quite little really would not survive in Judea.
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  Speaker 2: In you know, in that region, he would die like
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  Speaker 2: skin cancer. It would literally burn burn there was no sunscreen.
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  Speaker 2: Then he's not making it.
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  Speaker 5: You ready, Oh, y'all waiting for me.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what we're waiting.
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  Speaker 5: For you there?
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  Speaker 6: Like no, I was listening. I didn't know.
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  Speaker 7: How do y'all y'all know the person in the Jesus pictures.
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  Speaker 7: I didn't know that that was actually a real persons.
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  Speaker 4: I do a lot of a lot of I.
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  Speaker 3: Knew that it wasn't based on Jesus, Like the the
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  Speaker 3: images were created like around the fourteenth century from the
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  Speaker 3: mistaken you know, during the time of the Roman Empire.
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  Speaker 3: So of course whoever is in charge at that time
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  Speaker 3: is going to make the image in the life.
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  Speaker 2: I m well. Also, the interesting thing is it's very
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  Speaker 2: cultural because there's actually like if you look it up.
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  Speaker 4: There's Asian Jesus, there's like Chinese Jesus.
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  Speaker 6: An age in Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: Every culture depicted Jesus as their own. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that that's what I like about that though, is you know,
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  Speaker 2: God is very intentional. Every single word in that Bible
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  Speaker 2: is very intentional. He did not give us a description
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  Speaker 2: of what Jesus looks like for a reason. So I
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  Speaker 2: do think that it's okay that everyone has their own interpretation.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, their own interpretation because he is in us.
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  Speaker 6: Wasn't us a real personal Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: But.
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  Speaker 2: There's no because there's no written expression of what he
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  Speaker 2: physically looked like. There's very that is released today. I
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  Speaker 2: do think is something under the Vatican. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: the Vatican has all of the archives of all of
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  Speaker 2: the things that we really.
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  Speaker 4: Want to know.
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  Speaker 2: So that is, let me put on my little, my
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  Speaker 2: little hat, my little aluminum fi hair. Yes, but but
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  Speaker 2: I really truly believe that in the Vatican, in the
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  Speaker 2: Vatican archives, they have a whole bunch of things, and
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  Speaker 2: I believe that there is a depiction or thought process
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  Speaker 2: of what Jesus was supposed to look like allegedly, but
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  Speaker 2: they don't want us to know from the.
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  Speaker 6: Bible which has different so the not.
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  Speaker 2: The original Bible in its entirety, but the oldest copies
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  Speaker 2: of the Gospels Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, the oldest
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  Speaker 2: copies that we have ever found are in Ethiopia and
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  Speaker 2: are written in Geese, which is the Ethiopian language.
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  Speaker 4: So that's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: Like when people try to come from me, they're like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you you know, you worship the.
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  Speaker 4: White man's religion. Maybe when was Ethiopia a white country.
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  Speaker 2: Ethiopia is the only country, the only African country that
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  Speaker 2: was never colonized, so we know that this Gospel was
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  Speaker 2: never influenced by the Romans or anyone else. Matthew the Apostle,
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  Speaker 2: Matthew of Matthew, Mark Newton, John the Apostle Matthew was martyred,
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  Speaker 2: killed in Ethiopia. And what I tell people all the time,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not a Hebrew, is you lie at all?
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  Speaker 2: And I will demo, I will debate those people under
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  Speaker 2: the grade.
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  Speaker 5: You can't do that, brothers.
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  Speaker 4: They are the gospel qu.
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  Speaker 6: Baby staring the hose.
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  Speaker 7: Welcome back to so shameless as you can tell. We
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  Speaker 7: have a very educated young lady here with us on
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  Speaker 7: the couch. I am child TV. We have Dodge over
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  Speaker 7: them trom and our guest is somebody that I saw
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  Speaker 7: on Instagram.
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  Speaker 6: I followed her.
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  Speaker 7: I disagree with almost everything she said, but I love
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  Speaker 7: how intelligent she is, how knowledgeable she is, and I
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  Speaker 7: wanted to have these conversations with you. I respect you,
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  Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. The fact that you are
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  Speaker 7: so passionate about what you believe in and you're educated
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  Speaker 7: as well. It's like, Yo, how could you hate on that?
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  Speaker 6: You know what I mean? And I think that in
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  Speaker 6: today's world we like to label people and get rid
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  Speaker 6: of them.
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  Speaker 7: Were like, oh, no, that's it right when we don't
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  Speaker 7: use the two, we always use the one, we use
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  Speaker 7: the mouth, we don't use the two.
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  Speaker 6: We don't use the ears.
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  Speaker 7: We don't want to sit and have a real conversation
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  Speaker 7: with as we did with Hope Giselle a few weeks ago.
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  Speaker 6: That episode went crazy.
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  Speaker 7: Shout out to everybody that cursed me out in the comments,
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  Speaker 7: Thank you for listening.
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  Speaker 5: Cursed you off for what did you do?
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  Speaker 6: Listen?
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  Speaker 5: Oh how dare you?
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  Speaker 6: I listened?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's coming back around on this one. I promise
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  Speaker 2: you that once they know who I am.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure. Why don't you
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  Speaker 6: tell them who you are?
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  Speaker 4: It's hashtag marion?
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  Speaker 5: Excuse me?
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  Speaker 4: I know that was nasty.
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  Speaker 6: Did you just do that? I did.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry. I didn't mean to. It came up nasty.
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  Speaker 3: My bad.
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  Speaker 6: That was a woman, y'all. This is twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 6: You get what you get from these ladies. What the
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  Speaker 6: fuck was on yesterday's not here? I said, what the fuck?
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  Speaker 5: Nah? My allergies is busting? I'm sorry?
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  Speaker 7: Hashtag underscore ma Marian marrying and tell these people about
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  Speaker 7: yourself before we start.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for having me, of.
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  Speaker 6: Course, of course, thank you for being here.
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  Speaker 7: I'm sure you have a thousand people who want to
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  Speaker 7: call you all types of names whatever.
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  Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure. I don't know what how you felt.
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  Speaker 2: She doesn't say who she is first, and nobody knows
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  Speaker 2: what right They're like, what does she do?
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  Speaker 6: Woman?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 6: Please tell us for you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, thank you for having me. My short title
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  Speaker 2: is Christian, pro black conservative. That's what you'll find on
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  Speaker 2: my Instagram bio. I would call myself a Christian political commentator.
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  Speaker 4: My views are.
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  Speaker 2: Pro Trump, pro Republican, and I exactly yes, She's like.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't even know who I was sitting there.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, no, I did, I did.
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  Speaker 2: I did.
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  Speaker 5: I absolutely am very aware. Okay, but.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'll give you the my I'll start with my
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  Speaker 2: short spiel on why I believe the things that I do.
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  Speaker 4: Right One, I am a Christian.
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  Speaker 2: I am a holy, spirit filled and led woman of God.
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  Speaker 2: Right So for me, as I started to grow closer
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  Speaker 2: to Christ, as I was questioning the things that are
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  Speaker 2: happening in our world, looking at what the government suggests
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  Speaker 2: and push to especially black people, but to people in general,
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  Speaker 2: I just started to realize that it everything, almost everything
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  Speaker 2: that the Democrat Party pushes goes directly against the word
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  Speaker 2: of God. So as someone that does not support abortion,
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  Speaker 2: as someone that does not support transgenderism or the idea
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  Speaker 2: that God would make a mistake and put a man
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  Speaker 2: in a woman's body, et cetera, as someone that does
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  Speaker 2: believe in the nuclear family, that does believe men are
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  Speaker 2: designed by God to lead the family, that women should
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  Speaker 2: respect men, that women should hope for and promote the
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  Speaker 2: leadership of men, and that women can have a direct
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  Speaker 2: and intentional purpose that God will give them. But that
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  Speaker 2: this concept of feminism has ripped us away from what
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  Speaker 2: is actually healthy for children and for our society.
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  Speaker 4: I just couldn't vote for.
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  Speaker 2: The supposedly Blackish woman who is promoting abortion, promoting chansgenderism,
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  Speaker 2: and also promoting, you know, let's be honest, a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of sexual you know, liberation, which I call debauchery.
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  Speaker 6: Shout out to the debaucherous.
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  Speaker 5: All the depacherous people in the world. High back, we
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  Speaker 5: are here.
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  Speaker 7: I just want to make sure that we all have
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  Speaker 7: a room where we should make sure that we show
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  Speaker 7: respect to our guests. Our guests feels comfortable. We have
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  Speaker 7: the right to disagree absolutely respectfully. Right, this is a
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  Speaker 7: black woman in our couch, in our home, our on
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  Speaker 7: our stage, and we will respect to accordingly. So many
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  Speaker 7: things that you said in describing yourself sounds like, do
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  Speaker 7: you uphold patriarchy?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no problem with patriarchy, that's honest. I
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  Speaker 2: think it functions far better than a patriarchy.
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  Speaker 5: That's it.
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  Speaker 7: Key Why you said that, I think I wouldn't hear
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  Speaker 7: what white God said. Oh God, I agree with you.
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  Speaker 7: Hold on, maybe I'm a Trump supported.
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  Speaker 2: No, please, this is exactly what we are not going
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  Speaker 2: to do. I'm going to be very crystal clear. I
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  Speaker 2: appreciate you and your thoughts in your point of view,
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  Speaker 2: however common.
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  Speaker 5: There will be no conversions in this hole today.
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  Speaker 6: No, it won't.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely it can't be.
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  Speaker 4: Red hats in the back.
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  Speaker 5: Please got it. It's Sunday, It's so come on.
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  Speaker 3: Just look forward to where things we can agree on,
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  Speaker 3: so not necessarily conversions, but we actually agree.
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  Speaker 2: With I think that there is space to agree on
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  Speaker 2: a lot of different things.
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  Speaker 5: You asked me why, I said that that's.
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  Speaker 2: Itchy, the idea of a patriarchy, because I feel like
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  Speaker 2: for generations and I'm going to make sure that when
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  Speaker 2: we have this conversation, I'm going to stick to America,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not going to make it like too much
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  Speaker 2: bigger and broader than that. This country has always been
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  Speaker 2: a patriarchy and it's literally in shit, like this is
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  Speaker 2: the third world country that people think outside countries are.
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  Speaker 2: I think America is extremely ghetto. I think that half
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  Speaker 2: of the things that go on in here are discussing
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  Speaker 2: and despicable. And with that, I don't think that the
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  Speaker 2: patriarchy is working, because it it's not working. If I
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  Speaker 2: can quickly interject, God, one thing that people really don't
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  Speaker 2: consider when thinking about the state that this country is
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  Speaker 2: in now is the fact that we had the feminist movement,
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  Speaker 2: and that happened in the sixties, and since the sixties,
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  Speaker 2: we have seen America tank as far as a global
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  Speaker 2: entity that people look down upon prior to that. And
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  Speaker 2: this is why so many people, you know, when we say, maga,
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  Speaker 2: were you talking about getting America back to a place
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  Speaker 2: where people respect us across the world.
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  Speaker 5: It's hurting my soul.
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  Speaker 4: I get that.
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  Speaker 2: And what I'm saying is it's strange to people that
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  Speaker 2: you know, just can't believe they're seeing someone with brownskin
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  Speaker 2: say this. But one, let me make this clear. I've
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  Speaker 2: been a Democrat up until about four years ago, and
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  Speaker 2: I found no legitimate reason who continue to vote Democrat.
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  Speaker 2: I in doing my research and understanding the devastating I
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  Speaker 2: just posted a video about feminism. The devastating long term
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  Speaker 2: results of feminism cannot be understated. As we started to
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  Speaker 2: push women into the workforce, as we started to remove
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  Speaker 2: mothers from homes, as the government, the Democratic government was
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  Speaker 2: able to get two taxable incomes, which is all they
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  Speaker 2: really wanted, and able to have mothers removed from their children.
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  Speaker 2: So now they're the ones that are raising these kids, right,
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  Speaker 2: like the government has your kids for most of the day.
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  Speaker 2: And on top of it, we see I just did
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  Speaker 2: this in the fifties something like I don't even know.
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  Speaker 4: I would have to reference it again.
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  Speaker 2: Right, But in the fifties we had something about maybe
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  Speaker 2: maybe five percent of women were doing some form of
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  Speaker 2: sex work. Now it's risen to not five percent, sorry
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  Speaker 2: about fifty thousands. That's the oldest job in the world.
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  Speaker 2: Like constitution and sex work, all of that is literally old.
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  Speaker 2: It's an older, it's an older, it's an old profession.
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  Speaker 2: But it was not a popular profession. It wasn't something
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  Speaker 2: that was normalized in any culture. It was always looked
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  Speaker 2: down upon. Right now, however, will we go from somewhere
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  Speaker 2: around fifty thousand women doing sex work in the fifties,
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  Speaker 2: now we have over a million women in this country
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  Speaker 2: alone doing some form of sex where can work whatever
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  Speaker 2: it is.
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  Speaker 5: Shout out to them.
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  Speaker 2: They're making money, they're making money, But at what end,
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  Speaker 2: to what ends right, to what position in their soul,
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  Speaker 2: to what position in their bodies? When we look at
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  Speaker 2: the long term results of this, when we see women
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  Speaker 2: turning around and saying, dang, I really ruined my life.
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  Speaker 4: I really wish I didn't do this. Right now, if
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  Speaker 4: you look, there's a trending trending or trend.
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  Speaker 2: Of women going on Instagram and saying like someone convinced
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  Speaker 2: me to do OnlyFans.
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  Speaker 4: They I thought I was gonna make a bunch of money.
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  Speaker 2: And then they give you the results of making one
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  Speaker 2: hundred dollars two hundred dollars a month, getting fired from
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  Speaker 2: their jobs, get you know, their families being like, yo,
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  Speaker 2: I'm so disappointed in you, et cetera. You don't really
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  Speaker 2: win with all of this. That's why, again, I am
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  Speaker 2: a Christian. I know this Satan Israel, and I see
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  Speaker 2: the things that he has told people to normalize, and
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  Speaker 2: you look at the long term results, and we are
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  Speaker 2: desperately in need of people coming back to morals.
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  Speaker 4: In this country.
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  Speaker 2: That's where we can agree, all right. So I want
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  Speaker 2: to preface this conversation where I'm not a feminist, My God,
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  Speaker 2: I cannot. I'm also not a liberal. I'm moderate, amen
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  Speaker 2: left of center, but moderate for the most part. So
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  Speaker 2: I think that there are a lot of things that
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  Speaker 2: we can agree on. There are two things that are
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  Speaker 2: prickly for me from what you stated so far, one
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  Speaker 2: thing is that when we took women out of the
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  Speaker 2: home and put them into work, I think that.
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  Speaker 5: I don't really care about white women.
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  Speaker 2: I don't really care what white women do, So I'm
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  Speaker 2: only gonna speak in the essence of black people and
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  Speaker 2: black women, and black women have always worked.
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  Speaker 5: Black women have.
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  Speaker 2: We were in the field, we were seamstresses, we were
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  Speaker 2: we were cleaning. So I don't think that that modest
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  Speaker 2: modern feminist movement had a lot of trajectory or like
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  Speaker 2: traction when it comes to Black women because we always
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  Speaker 2: were working. I would love to be a stay at
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  Speaker 2: home wife. I ask my husband all the time. He
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  Speaker 2: keeps telling me no, once again, can I stay the
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  Speaker 2: fuck home?
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  Speaker 5: I'm sick of this shit. You want to say no.
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  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, like I think
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  Speaker 2: that that is one of those talking points that does
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  Speaker 2: not necessarily resonate with black people in America.
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  Speaker 5: But my other question is.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you totally right, but that when we're
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  Speaker 2: speaking about we have to understand that feminism was in waves, right,
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  Speaker 2: So first first wave feminism, second wave feminism, then third
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  Speaker 2: wave feminism was intentionally pulling in black women's Yeah, there
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  Speaker 2: was that whole pushess like with a and I woman.
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  Speaker 4: Right, yes, we know that.
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  Speaker 2: That is third wave feminism where black women said, well
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  Speaker 2: wait what about me? And so what happened with black
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  Speaker 2: women in that regard is you're right, we've always worked
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  Speaker 2: outside of the home.
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  Speaker 4: That's something I addressed in my video.
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  Speaker 2: But what happened is instead of saying, oh, I want
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  Speaker 2: these rights now, it was one the sexual liberation movement
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  Speaker 2: of the seventies and eighties and Woodstock, et cetera. Women,
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  Speaker 2: that's white people shit, but black people were in on
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  Speaker 2: it too. I don't forget you think about what's her name? No, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: Pam Grier, thank you, thank you, thank you. Seventies were
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  Speaker 2: a big time blaxploitation, all that, and then on top
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  Speaker 2: of it, it came down to well, I have not
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  Speaker 2: just rights, but I have let's call it the demand
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  Speaker 2: to be an equal partner in my relationship.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So now feminism told but that's not that's just
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  Speaker 2: not the case. You shouldn't be equal partners. You should
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  Speaker 2: There should be a hierarchy in your home. Your husband
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  Speaker 2: should have final say on things. That's just what it
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  Speaker 2: should be. If he could beat my ass, like if
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  Speaker 2: you can't. If you can't fight, you don't get a
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  Speaker 2: final say you got it. If you can't.
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  Speaker 5: About you know me, I'm still I'm going to always
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  Speaker 5: be myself.
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  Speaker 6: Can you be serious?
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  Speaker 4: But if he did.
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  Speaker 2: Beat your ass, let's.
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: Not take it too far.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: But I do have one question that I want to
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: ask before you start controlling the conversation. Are you a
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Republican or are you maga? Because those are two different things.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: I am a conservative and I do subscribe to the
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Maga ideology, But.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: Are you a Republican?
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: I call myself a conservative because conservatism is an ideology
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: that I agree with. When it comes to Republican, I
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: do vote Republican, you know, by and large, but I
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: will say, like I didn't vote Republican in the last
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: mayor Old.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: I was gonna ask you if you voted for Sleep.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I wish I wish he would have got out the way.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: He's the reason why we have MONDAMMI right now.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: Not too much on my mayor. In my head, not
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: too much.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I just did a podcast yesterday about that man's horrendous
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: first one hundred days.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: We can go into that off camera.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: Was it better than Eric Adams?
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: Actually?
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Eric Adams had a higher approval rate after his first.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: One hundred days. Don't do that.
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: Don't do that, ballhead. I can't.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: If there's somebody that I cannot stand, is that bullheaded,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: scaly wag of a mayor that y'all used to have.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: See, I can't.
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: Don't you think that Eric Adams had a better even
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: though he was black? He was also a former cop
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: for a police officer. And then you have the first
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: Muslim mayor welcome.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: To don't you think y'all listen, y'all think this Muslims
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: are coming all gentle, Okay, you need to look at
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: any country that allows Muslims into power. Not This is
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: me saying, just go do the research. Go look at
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: you right now, look at Europe right now. Understand that tenth.
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: Muslim transgender sex people.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: I'm not against Muslims. I am against Islam.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: And I really need to make that clear because what
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: about Judaism the people? Judaism is a very different conversation
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: because Judaism is the original faith that Christianity stems from. Right.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: So there is prophecy in scripture where God promises that
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: he will give Jews the opportunity to repent and to
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: come to him during the final Days. That's in Revelation.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: So I can't hate the Jews in mass because they
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: are God's my God, they are my God's original chosen people.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: That said, I always account for the fact that people
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: are people, right, So I never you know, you're not
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: gonna see me on here talking about oh I'm pro
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Israel or I think Israel can do no wrong. In
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: that conversation, I acknowledge that people are people. There is
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: absolutely always a striving for power in any culture. So
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: there's definitely bad Jews in the world. I will say
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: it just like that, but everybody, right, everybody in the
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: world when it comes to Islam, I've done in men's studying,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: deep studying. The thing about Islam and their ideology is
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: that they intend. Their goal is to take over it.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: It's not through loving conversion, it's not through go out
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: and preach the gospel like Jesus said.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: It is a war focused conquering.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: So if you look at what Muhammad did originally, and
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: again we're not this isn't a religious podcast, so we
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: don't have the well onness. But if you look at
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Muhammad and his way of converting people and his way
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: of you know, grasping territory, and then you look at
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: the reality of how Islam has been able to spread
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: since then. The fact is there's fifty three Muslim countries
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: in the world, and when people leave a country, they
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: don't go to other Muslim countries for some reason.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: They come to Western.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Countries and they're doing it because they want to spread Islam.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: And as you allow them into your government. Look at
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: there's dearborn Michigan right now. So many Muslims have gotten
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: into power that they now banned the Pride flag from
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: being flown outside of homes.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: But people want to say offensive.
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: No.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: See, that's the thing about Christianity. We are not here
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: to force people to change their ways. We're here to
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: hopefully impress upon you to do certain things, but we
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: cannot for we're not going to force you to completely
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: change your ways.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: At least you shouldn't. I'm not saying that Christianity hasn't
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: been used to do that.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: It has.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: It's been very pushy and started a lot of wars.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: And when you think about, like I think that all
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: religions have done that, right, don't even get me on colonization,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: and don't even get me the way that colonization, though, girl,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: you would rather be having sex with trees, whole high
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: sex with a lot.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Of these ancient religions, Black sex with trees, a lot
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: of pagions. Yes, I'm African.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Finds find me, but you got to find it.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: Find me.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Talk about something that's still happening to this day. Do
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: you know about female circumcisions? Of course, but we're talking
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: about that is that is. Remember I said, I just
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: want to.
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: Talk to let each other speak. Okay, let's let's let.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're chilling.
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: But the listeners is like I'm listening, like, yo, let's
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: let's let's.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: What I would say is what I know is when
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I look at the realities of what is still happening
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: in certain African nations. You know, because if I don't
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: know if you know, for a descendant of slavery, but
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I know for sure that I'm a descendant of slaveliness country.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: So my people definitely came from either Ghana or you know,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: somewhere around there. I have no interest in the cultural practices.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Of my ancestors.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: They are not positive by and large. There's a lot
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: of hedonistic ways. If you look at just the the.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: Fertility dances that they do.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: That's actually where we get the concept of working from
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: is from African fertility dances.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, that is okay.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: What I'm gonna end up doing here is preaching literally
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: giving like bakedown of what you know, what we know
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: to be true as far as the worship of pagan gods.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: But pagan worship includes a lot of sexual worship and
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: a lot of fertility dances with the intention of creating
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: babies that end up being slaughtered and sacrifice it to.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Gods like Moloch and Baal.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: And that's why what I see the Democrat Party specifically
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: promoting every type of sexual activity you can possibly do
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: and then telling you go ahead and un alive your
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: unborn child. I can't help but root those two things
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: together as a continuation of pagan practices. For me having
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: a Christian you know, the understanding that yes, maybe my
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: ancestors were not Christian at the.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: Time that they were enslaved.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: They were not, but prior to that they might have
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: been before they really.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Fell from faith. Well, Africa again, we talked.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: About how you know, the Bible was in Africa well
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: before anywhere else, right, and so we know that a
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: decent amount of Africans at some point they were exposed
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: to the Bible. And then there's also pagan influence as well,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: So we don't know for sure if our distant ancestors
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: weren't already Christian. Christianity has been around for over two
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: thousand years, you know. So when I see that through Christianity,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: my ancestors received the knowledge of self respect, morality, family units,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: not kill kids, not being you know, debaucherous, working on yourself,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: having self discipline, and in my opinion, serving the one
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: True God, and not being confused by these other what
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: we believe are fallen ang you know, fallen angels telling
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: people to worship them as God. I'm completely fine with
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: colonial colonization under the guise in which people have been colonized.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: You're you're okay with all of that as well, because
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: it all comes together, because colonization.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: Is not like, hey, how you doing.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Would you like to accept Jesus christis your Lord, and say,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: colonization is a blood blast, It is abduction, It is
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: mass like conversion, It is rape, it is molestation, It
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: is all of these different things. There is nothing nice
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: or kind or in my head christian about the way
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: that colonization happens, in a way that it has continued
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: to happen. So it's very much is it Uchi Wally
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: or is it one Mic? I don't understand how Christians
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: could be maga. I don't understand how Like where is
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: the line? I think that's the question that I have,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Like where is your line for how you personally feel
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: about Donald Trump?
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: Because there has to be a line.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: I can tell you where he crossed my line, but
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I would like to know where is your line? Because
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: up until like yesterday, you're still defending him. You defended
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: him on Easter. I watched that video and I said,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: oh hell, and I gotta turn this off.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: This is crazy.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: You stepped out of church and got on a video
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: to defend a man that didn't even say.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: Direction day. I didn't leave church. I didn't step out
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: of church.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: No, no, you did say that in a video. So let
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: me let me address the two things that you mentioned.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: One you mentioned you know, the.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Spread how colonialism happened.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: I will say very clearly, I do not conflate God's
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: actions and man's actions. Right, So what we have Okay,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: For instance, God allowed the Hebrews to be enslaved in
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Egypt for four hundred years, right, that's but through that slavery,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: that's where we get the Ten Complaints. Well that later
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: on through Moses, but we get the ten planes of Egypt,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: we get the Exodus, and then we get the not
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: only the Ten Commandments, but the entire Law of Moses.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Right then we get the Promised Land later on.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: So what we see through scripture, and it is true
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: in even the personal lives of Christians, God allows very
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: very very painful things to happen because at the end
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: He has a better outcome waiting.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: It is very difficult. It takes me so hard to.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: Four hundred years is crazy.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: It's like you're the all powerful, Like, yeah, you can
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: snap a finger and fix it.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: So why persecute your children?
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Why persecute the people that believe in you, the people
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: that worship you for years, for generations, for centuries. And
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: it's like, hey, you know what, I got a plan
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: at the end of this though, so just hold out.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: You're not gonna be allowed for that plan. Your kids
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: might not even be allowed for that plan, but you
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: gotta hold it.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: Hold this.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: This your whole life of slavery and of persecution, and
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: just know that later on your great great great grandchildren
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: they'll reap the benefits of Like I don't my thoughts
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: on it doesn't even matter, but go ahead.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: No, that's a tough question. I actually did a debate.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: It'll be all of it, but it's twenty Christians against
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: one atheist, and that was the conversation.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: It's like, there's too much suffering.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: For God to be real, and for God, for a
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: God that is supposedly all loving to exist, it's too
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: much suffering. And I didn't get to debate this claim,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: but I did prepare my answer for it, which is
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: that you know, there's so much to understand with the
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: way that this world is as a result of the
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: fall of man in the first place, right as a
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: result of the eating of the apple and the expulsion
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: from the garden of Eden, which would have been a
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: place of no suffering. Now that we are in this place,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: what God does is in his completely amazing brain that
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: will never understand. He's already written out some very long
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: but very powerful testimonies for people. So what the way
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: I equate it is like my daughter, you were both mothers.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Our kids might not understand where we're making them study right?
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Why are you making me do homework?
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: This sucks.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: I don't like doing homework. I don't want to do it.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: And it's like I get that, I really don't.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: I want you to learn and go to college and
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: make something of yourself. In the midst of it. For them,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: it just seems like mommy sucks. Mommy doesn't want me
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: to have a good time. Mommy could Mommy could stop
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: this if she wanted to. Mommy could come over and
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: give me the answers she could.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: She could calm this down and stop it quickly if
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: she wanted to. Why doesn't she do it? If she
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: loves me?
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: But mommy knows that there is value in that suffering
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: that she that you know, our children consider homework. God
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: knows that there was value in the suffering that the
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Egyptians dealt with, in the suffering of our ancestors as
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: enslaved people, in any suffering this world, we will never
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: understand it.
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: So do you think there was a slavery was necessary?
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, because look at this, Look at this, Think of this,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Think of this. We're all black people here? Are we
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: all descendant of slaves?
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: Do we know?
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: I know for sure that I am.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I don't think I'm okay, that's okay, I'm a half
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: and half A half and half, Okay.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: I didn't do a DNA test.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's say if we are. I know for a
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: fact that I am. What I think about right now
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: is that a lot of the people, a lot of
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: the people that are the down you know, downward descendants,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: the long term descendants of the people that were non slaves,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: they're trying to get to this country right now. They're
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: getting shut down at the border right now, They're getting
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: deported right now. So because of my ancestors suffering, I
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: have the blessing of being in this country that so
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: many people are dying, literally dying to come to.
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: So whilst that killed millions of your people in order
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: to create itself that great your ancestry country hasn't.
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: But does that make it right? Country?
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: What country has not had to hurt other people in
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: order to either establish itself or grow its territory.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Give me one country that's never heard of.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: There's been no country that has done the atrocities that
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: the slave trade has done.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: I would submit to you the Islamic slave trade that
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: no one talks about, that has gone on since the
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: seventh century and it's still going on to today.
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: I've never heard of it.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: What is exactly and that's the crazy part. You haven't
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: heard of it. It's the Islamic slave trade.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Because those Africans didn't come here, we don't hear about it.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: But they have been enslaving people. Actually, if you even
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: want to get biblical, they were you know, from when
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: they were called the Ishmaelites. They were enslaving people from
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: the time of Abraham. That's who Abraham's brother sold him
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: into slavery, and then Abraham ends up a slave in Egypt. Right,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: So the Islamic slave trade has started since the time
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: of Muhammad. Mohammad lived in about six hundred, five hundred
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: and forty something years after Jesus, so we're talking around
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: the seventh century. Yeah, and he has a culture of
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: enslaving people, primarily women and children, and they go to
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: be concubines. They end up being sex slaves. When you
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: have time look into it, far more people. So the
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Christians decided to like one up it and was like,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: if you could do it, I could do it better.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: The child with slavery in America is literally the most
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: discussing and despicable form of slavery in all of history,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: and only America does not feel like. Only America and
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Israel are like and are like, Nah, it wasn't that bad.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, I hear you. I don't. I would never
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: say it wasn't that bad. I ever say that. But
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I would also say I when I say necessary, I
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: didn't even say necessary.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: I know that it was part of God's plan.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Every single thing is already under his control, so if
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: he didn't want it to happen, it wouldn't have happened.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: And what I'm saying is, even though it was horrible,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I am grateful that my ancestors were able to survive
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: through that because that gave my family a life that
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: so many other people are desperate to have. That's all
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. I'm never going to justify the concepts of
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: slavery in general, and it's important to know God doesn't
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: justify the type of slavery that was performed in his name.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Of course, if you read you Know scripture, you'll see
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: there's a clause when God has talked God talks about slavery,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: you're supposed to allow a man to be freed after
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: seven years. That's actually weird, guess concept of being related
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: a race. That's why bankruptcy clears from your you know,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: credit after seven years, because it comes from Christian values
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: where Jesus or you know, the Bible says clear debts
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: and let an enslaved person go. You're supposed to let
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: an enslaved person take their whole family with them. Yes,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: they wanna leave, right exactly, we know that what was
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: done was not in line with God's word. That's why
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: they had you create the slave Bibles because if slaves
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: were able to read the truth, they would have known
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: that these slave owners were not in line with scripture.
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: And then you use God as a way to control
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: and condemn people, and that is part of the like
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: I don't I'm.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: A mere human.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I do not understand. I do not wish to understand.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: I do not aspire to understand. But what I can
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: say is, and to go back to your original argument
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: of as mothers, the things that we have to do, Yeah,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: like you have to go to school, you have to
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: do the things that you don't wanna do. But that's
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: not in lifetime of that is in You're a child
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: for a very short period of time, and I have
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: to mold you the best I can, and it's very
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: short period of time. And after that you get to
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: go off and you do your own thing. You you
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: can do whatever you wanna do. Essentially, effectively, I have
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: to instill moral values in you from the beginning and
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: then hope that you become the person that I want
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: you to be. That is not hundreds of years of
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: don't worry. I have the answer to the plan, and
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: that is something that I can't sit with. But I
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: really want to know what is your line? What is
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: the line with you and Donald Trump?
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: Hold on before you answer that question that Trump was
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: trying to get something out.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I noticed that a lot of what you're
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: saying is based on God's word in the scriptures, right,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: And I noticed that, you know, I looked up some
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: of your stuff and I saw a video where you're
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: talking about science versus the scripture. Right, Very interesting video.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: I liked it. Right, And a lot of times in
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: science conclusions come where it's like we don't know, right.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: And on the other side, I feel like sometimes according
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: to the Scripture, you had answers for things. My question
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: to you is, how can yourself or somebody that's a question,
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: or somebody in the Bible be so convinced that these
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: things are reality and not faith based on the fact
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: that these were things written by human things that were translated, edited, changed,
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: left to interpretation. Some stuff is literal, some stuff were told, Oh,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: it's not meant to be literal, it's supposed to be this.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: And so could you explain how you come to things
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: as a fact in reality based off of scripture?
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Sure, so, okay, I'll give you the perfect not perfect,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: but one of my big aha moments when it came
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: to scripture.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: Right. So, to believe that Scripture is the Word of God.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: You have to have some reason to believe that, right, Like,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: something in it has to be otherworldly, something in it
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: has to just point to someone outside of humans being
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: able to ever write it.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: So specifically, with the story of the flood in Noah right.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: There, I'm trying to remember the verse, but I'm not
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: going to remember the exact verse. But in Genesis when Noah,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: well actually Moses writes you know, Genesis, etc. So when
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Moses is writing about the flood, he says that the
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: heavens burst open and water rained down on the earth
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: and the springs of the deep burst forth and water
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: came from under the earth and flooded.
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: The whole earth.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: So I found that very fascinating, and I went ahead
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: and researched. It turns out in around nineteen sixty scientists
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: confirmed that there are indeed springs underwater. This is not
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: something that a man living six thousand years ago would
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: ever know on his own. Right now, that's one specific thing,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: But that's just something that I like to point out
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: because as you read the word and as you really
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: dive into it, there are things that don't make sense
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: for a human of that time to know with out
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: some type of divine intervention.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: Could be aliens. The aliens could very well be aliens.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: The question would come back to, like, where are the
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: aliens coming from?
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 38:12
  Speaker 7: I mean, I, for one, me personally, and I might
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: be wrong in this. I don't really think it's right
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: for us to question anybody's faith or what they believe
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: in as far as who they worship. And you know,
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: I personally don't. When when you spoke on Islam, though
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: you gave a past somewhat to Judaism, Judaism, yet condemned
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: Islam when in today's world we if we look at
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: the what happened in Gaza. I don't know if you
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: support what happened in Gaza or the war, the religious
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: wars that's going on over there. It looks as if
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: Israel is doing what you said Islam was doing. Looks
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: as if Israel is like yo, I'm taking all of this.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: I'm taking Like do you you can't Google Like Palistin
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: is not on a map anymore. Like if you go
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: to like Google maps and put in Palistan, nothing is going.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: Yes, it was Israel. It's that shit is gone.
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know, but when did that happen?
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Through the occupation and the war and all of this
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: stuff like it like Palestin's like their land has been
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: shrinking for years and now it's at the point because
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: and the only reason why I noticed is so random.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Me and Parker were having a conversation and she asked
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: me a question about Moses. So with her little seven
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: year old self, I said, oh, let's watch the Prince
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: of Egypt. So we watched The Prince of Egypt and
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: we were watching it and we're like having conversations about it,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: and then like at the end, you know, they crossed
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: the Red Sea. So then me, in my mind, I'm like,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: the Red Sea. When you cross the Red Sea, so
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: wouldn't you technically be in Gaza, you would be in Palestin.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: So then I was gonna pull it up on a
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: map for her, and I literally google.
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: I didn't Google Israel.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I googled the Red Sea and you see the two sides,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, but that's Palestline right there in
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: my head. And then I put in Palestine in Google
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Maps and it said not found, and I said, what
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: what is happening here?
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: And then when you deep dive into and you look
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: into it more, it's I.
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: Mean, I said to me, to me, that would be
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: American propaganda me me personally, that would be the way America.
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: Like that's how Trump used to do the.
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: Gulf of America from America, right, like it's recognized somewhere
• 40:35
  Speaker 7: else as something.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: But give take it from? What take it from?
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: You said we should take the Gulf of.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: Can we go back to tell who's original point? Because
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: we went off the not but you were you were
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: going somewhere with that.
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: I don't remember what. Then I said, you were.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Asking the persecution of musism versus Islam basically, and why
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: I give a pass to Judaism versus Okay, so one
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Islam is a completely false faith. And I say this
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: with respect again to Muslims. I highly respect their faith.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I respect their you know, devotion to their faith. But
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: I debate Muslims all the time, very simply just to
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: quickly explain, as I mentioned, Mohammad lived five hundred and
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: forty something years after Christ. Then Muhammad comes out says
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: that he has a dream and in that dream, Jesus
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: told him that he was never crucified, never died, and
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: never rose from the dead. Those three things are the
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: three three things that Christians hinge our.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Entire faith upon. Right.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: It's also some of the most highly recorded events in history.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: When it comes to Julius Caesar, there's something like twenty
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: or so manuscripts out, you know, written attestations to him existing.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: When it comes to Jesus, there's like twenty thousand plus.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: And we're not talking about the Bible. We're talking about
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: people that just were like, Wow, there's this random preacher
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: guy in you know, in Bethlehem that has everybody going
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: crazy and they're writing to their friends or you know,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: writings from Pontus Pilot, who was the governor of Rome
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: of the time, writing about how he's going to have
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: to crucify this man who hasn't done anything wrong, etc.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: Right, So we know for a fact that Jesus lived.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: We know for a fact that.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: He died because it's well attested, and we know that
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: when he rose, over five hundred plus people saw the
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: risen Christ well after he was actually you know, killed,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: right saying all that, to say, to deny that, you
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: have to instantly question that person, right, I questioned Mohammed's
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: reasoning for denying that. And then when you look at
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: what Jesus said. Mind you, Muslims believe in Jesus, they
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: think they do.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Actually, let me be clear, because.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I Sayhet is not the all seeing God that Christians believe.
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: And I have another question about that.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: So Muslims believe in Lisa, that is what Jesus is
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: called in the Quran. However, it makes all sense, and
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: I have a video about that because during Mohammed's time,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: the Bible already existed, right, it was already written in Arabic.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: So Jesus's name in the Arabic Bible was yes, Yesua, Yeah,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: yes you but you're correct, it was a deviation of Yeshua.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: So where did Lisa come from? And Issa is for
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: some reason, the only time we see Isa, it's in
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: the Quran.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: Never before.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, that said, all of this said because I do
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: want to get on to your points about Trump and
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: I you know, God loves to do this to me.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: He'll be like, hey, I'm gonna send you over there
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: and you're going to preach and you don't even realize
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: you're gonna do it today. But I'm happy to do it.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: I love to learn.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: And this is you know, part of my calling in
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: regards to my understanding and you know.
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: Of Israel moment.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: So what I would love for people to remember is
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: that there are fifty three Muslim countries completely Muslim, not
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: places where Muslims live, fifty three countries that are under
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Muslim rule, and one Jewish country, just one.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: There is a Jewish country. It's a Jewish state.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: Sure if that's you know, they do.
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: Not have a country that has that has continuously grown.
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: To continue to continue to grow. They want to.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: Grow, but should not be allowed to.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: So one of the biggest anti that them that's on
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: the interweb, well talk about it, but I can't This.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: Video might get you know, might get a shadow band
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: if we talk about it to DM.
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: I can't talk about web, but I'm gonna tell you.
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you what I gotta tell you.
• 44:39
  Speaker 7: Well, you said take everything when it came to America,
• 44:42
  Speaker 7: So that would kind of show why you don't really
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: care what Israel is doing because you think America should
• 44:46
  Speaker 7: do the same thing.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Well, when it comes to America, I think that we
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: should take Mexico and Canada.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: We never had Mexico in Canada.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: I know we should take them, do what.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: With them, expand we would make them America because thousands,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: sorry million of Mexicans are trying to become American every
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: freaking year, but because their government is.
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: Deeply corrupt and those people are struggling.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: No, my point is, if that many Mexicans want to
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: be American, we should just make Mexico America. We can't
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: fit all of them over here, but we can certainly
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: go over there and help them build their economy. We
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: can help them, you know, we can't build our economy.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: If I'm my interject. When we were talking about colonization,
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: one thing that we did not talk about was the
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: economic part of it, and how colonizers go into other
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: people's land, take all their resources and disrupt their financial operations.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: So you're saying a country has been infiltrated, resources taken, disrupted,
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: whup's assassinations, And then you're wondering why some of the
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: people are suffering and want to leave. They're not leaving
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: because America is this fantastic place. They're leaving because of
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: economic pressures.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Due to But is that but but is that the
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: true and total complete truth?
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Because No, the reason that Mexico is still struggling and
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: suffering is because drug lords run the government. And that
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: is something that's been happening for quite some time.
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: Well, pedophiles run this government. We ain't no better.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: Pedophiles are not in Mexico for government.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I need you to look at how normalized child marriage
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: is in Mexico in the same way as child marriage
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: is extremely normalized in Islam and.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: Countries.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: This questions of an economic hit man, right, I don't
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: know if you've heard of it.
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: He talks about this ex CIA operative that he wrote
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: a book. He talks about how he personally went into
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: other countries disrupt their whole finances and created coups and assassinations.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: If you create an unstable government that will allow drug
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: lords and other people to assume power. So it's a
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: very layered thing what we're talking about. There's so many
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: variables in here. You can't be like, oh, well there
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: are drug dealers there, so they're bad weed disagree. There's
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: a lot of layers to this. There's a lot of
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: variables to this and all that to say, and then
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: you know, to to go back to what you're saying
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: about we should take over more countries Jesus, and your
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: response to that that you know.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: You know that this country do it.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: So it's kind of like, oh, well everybody's doing it.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: But is that just? Is that righteous? Is that something?
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: Why should one? One? Look at scripture?
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Look at how often God says I'm going to give
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: you this land. Look at how often he tells his
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: people you can go ahead and have this. I will
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: drive out the inhabitants of the land, and I'm giving
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: this to you. But more importantly, why does everyone want
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: America be so nice? Why do you want but this
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: is why do you want us to start? Now? Just
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: be these this this gentle, Oh we're just this gentle
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: giant who's gonna take care of everybody? Do you know
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: how much money we give to other countries?
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: Discuss that.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not just talking about in you know, like foreign alliances.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about actual aid. I'm talking about helping African nations,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: helping helping, you know, with.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: Just foreign affairs. How many?
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: Because America is a world police, that's the problem.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: Like you know that we know a is world police.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: No, America, America is world police.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: We even though we're not actually like sticking our flag
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: and lands, we have our hands in everything in all
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: of these different.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: No, not good.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: America is not in a strong enough, in a stable
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: enough place for us to be interfering in other people's business.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: You have to take care of your house first. This country.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: You believe in America first. That's a mega I'm just saying, no, no, no, no,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: it's right back here.
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: Please don't make a crush out.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be very America first.
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: That I am.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: I I am going to be very honest about how
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I feel about things individually. Because I believe that Maggan
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: is a cult, but that's another situation.
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: Entirely.
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: I believe, like I didn't have to prick my finger
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: to join.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Now, you don't have to do nothing to you literally
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: don't have to do anything but just put on the hat.
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: But I don't even own a hat.
• 49:18
  Speaker 6: I hope you do.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: Someone wants to buy me one.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Absolutely nobody in this audience, that's me. What I will
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: say is, I do believe that it should be America first.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: I absolutely believe that. I also believe that this country
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: is inherently disrespectful. And I also think that this country
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: is does not have its shit in order, because if
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: somebody asked me, like, what are you, I'm never going
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: to say I'm African American? I'm American, period, full stop,
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: like full stop, because how many generations do black people
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: have to be in this country to be full American?
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: Americans are not when people think Americans, they think white people.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: When white people are immigrants, just like all of these
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: people that you're saying that you don't want to be here,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: they are immigrants. Ellis Island is right over there. Ellis
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Island is right over there. If you're not native and
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: you were not brought here under duress like we were,
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: we didn't ask to be here, We were brought over
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: here as a FBA yourself.
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: You understand that you were bought here.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: So there are only two types of Americans technically, that's
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: black people and indigenous people.
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: All white people came from Europe, all of them.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: They came from England, they came from France, they came
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: from Ireland.
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: They are all they come to. They came.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: They came over here on to what to will, to
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: build new England, to build.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: Neighbor and built the best country.
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: They didn't build ship. They didn't. They know they did not.
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: They had the thought Facebook, Facebook, We were talking about
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: the colonies, just.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: Like who built Facebook?
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: A Jewish man?
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: What's his name?
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: That Jewish?
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: So because you know the name MARKU zucker Bird, it
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: proves that he who creates something is the one that
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: built it. Just because they use other people to put
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: it together, he who creates something is the person that
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: built it. So that that means that black people built
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: this country.
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: No, we didn't.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: We didn't etch it out. We didn't sit down on
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: become the I didn't say he built.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: I didn't. I said who created?
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: He who created? All right?
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: So who created Washington DC? What do you mean who
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: created Washington d C? Who was the architect who was
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: the person.
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: That I don't but I know the black man.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: Okay, so that benj that would be oh I didn't
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: know that.
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: Yes, Benjamin Bannicart, the mathematician.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: So then that means so then that means that black
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: people have then built with.
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: You on that we created it. But see that's that's
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: that's like, that's really tricky.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: That's like saying like not that's like saying you laid
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: a brick, so you're the one that built the whole house. Like,
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: we have to talk about the reality that this country
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: was not being developed until pilgrims decided to come here
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: and start developing it.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: Of a pilgrim you're not talking from the perspective globally.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Of exactly of the indigenous Peoplegenous people always stole each
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: other's lands as well. That's something that is very you're
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: talking about inter fighting that because there's inter This is
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: what I would say. It frustrates me when people get
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: so mad at you know, colonialists, at Europeans for taking
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: over when the reality is even in Africa, even as
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: Africans there, it's tribalism. You've always seen one tribe taking
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: over the entire the entire Okay, so why did it
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: have to stop with borders, as far as Europeans should
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: have stayed in Europe and not colonized anywhere else.
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: Why it is not even mad at people for doing
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: something that made sense.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: That's not my argument. My argument is not I'm not
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: arguing in colonialism. Right now, we understand what happened. We
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: understand that they came over here. We understand that they
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: built a couple of little brick houses or whatever the
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: case may be. But when, but when, but when the
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Transatlantic slave trade happened? A lot of them sat on
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: their fat white asses and did nothing while the black
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: people dealt with and helped build the economy of this country.
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: Helped build literal buildings.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: And whether or not, okay, there's no question about whether
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: or not the enslaved Africans.
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: Were the physical labor force.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: I'm not disagreeing with you on that. So when the
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: question is who built the pyramids, right, the alien slaves, Well,
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: sure we can.
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: Have a deeper conversation about that with you.
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: I don't disagree.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Even though you would call them aliens, I call them demons.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: That's the difference there. But I do believe that something
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: outside Yeah, that's the whole thing. We'll talk about it later.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: But when we talk about the Pyramids, When we talk
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: about the pyramids, the reason they exist is because the
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: slave arrows. No, because the fairs decided to make them exist.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: And there they decided, how do I get this done.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: I need a cheap labor force, and they got slaves.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: So if we're talking about the fundamentals who built something, yes,
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: we have to say there is a creator, there is
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: a thought, someone that comes up with an idea, and
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: then there's someone that they should hire, but oftentimes didn't
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: actually hire that someone that they enslaved to do the
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: physical work. So I will not disagree with you that
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: our ancestors were extremely necessary. Y they were not just influmential,
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: they were like completely mandatory for this country to have
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: built up what it has built up. Absolutely, there is
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: no America without the Europeans coming here first to make
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: it America.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: And that is my point.
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: And it was so unnecessary to do.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: Girl, what would you rather be?
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: I would literally rather be in Ghana. If I could
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: be in they'll take you ike.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: So I understand what you're saying that in the history,
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: it's the whole global history of people taking over other
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: countries and movements that colonize each other. Right, It's happened
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: over the entire course of history. Then World War One happened,
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: Then World War II happened, hear me out right, Then
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: United Nations was formed, and then at that point, now
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: we're in a different level of civilization than we were
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: in previous centuries. Right, So now the things that you're describing,
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: if we were to take over Mexico and Canada forcefully,
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: that is considered a war crime by standards that almost
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: every country has agreed on. Do you not believe that
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: that would be a war crime. You're talking about things
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: that were okay thousands of years ago, but they're not
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: okay now because of what we saw happened in World
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: War WID.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: The whole president, That's what I was gonna say, I mean,
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: the reality. This is again why I do like Trump,
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: because he is someone that says, you know what, I
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: get that there's rules to this game, but the rules
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: are bs. The rules are absolutely here's what's happening, But
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: here's what's happening instead, while other countries are like, okay, sure,
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: I won't try to take over this land through force. Instead,
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: what are they doing they're trying to economically squeeze out America.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: That's why bricks happen.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: That's why China is influencing the world as much as possible. Right,
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: That's why we have China going into African nations and saying,
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: I'll help you with your industry. I'll help you and yo,
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: as long as you use my yen. Start using the
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: yen as your your your standard currency in this nation.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: And now let me bring some of my Chinese developers
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: over here. I'm going to help you with your industry. Right,
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna help you. But you see, how is there
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: any difference, because let's talk about this realistically, A lot
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: of them, a lot of the pain and suffering and
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: the the deaths that happened from pilgrims coming over here,
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: it was through disease. It's not because they were actually
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: trying to well. They just had they had a lifestyle
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: where they were living on top of each other in
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: smaller cities, whereas Native Americans were living, you know, in
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: fresh air. So they just didn't develop these types of
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: illnesses yet fire sure agree, However, my point is they
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: weren't actually out here just immediately killing people. The moment
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: that they saw them, they died from disease primarily, and.
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: So hold on.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: So when we look at the intention of finding a
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: new place, deciding that it is a good place, and
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: then deciding that you want to help build it up
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: or build it up for your people, that is what's
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: happening China to Africa. That is what's happening China to Brazil.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: That's why Trump was so serious about Venezuela, because Venezuela
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: is amongst Brazil and Argentina and all these places that
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: China is setting a foothold.
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: China does not like the US.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: One of the big things that's keeping us safe from
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: China is our distance physically from China. The more that
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: they can place their people to the US, the easier
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: they can attack us. So this is why we like
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: those of us that like Trump. This is why we're
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: comfortable with him saying you know what, y'all might might
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: disagree with me on this, but I am gonna take
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: this guy. I am gonna I'm gonna go for Greenland
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: because we need to be able to control Greenland because
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: as China and Russia have access to the waters that
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: go I can't remember the exact name of the things
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: we've been talking about the Straight and hermos for the
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: last week and a half, so now that's the only
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: thing in my brain. But as China and Russia have
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: access to this water where that goes past Greenland, they
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: can move heavy artillery through there. This is why we
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: need Mexico and Canada because we need we need to
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: broaden our imagine this we space out from inland America.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: We have territories now that are.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: So huge that to get to us it's going to
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: take you days of ground transportation, or you're going to
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: have to fly over thousands of miles of land where
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: we can see you. It is about protecting mainland America.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: That's why I like it. And again I'm not saying
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: that it's going to be gentle and nice. I'm saying
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: that we got too comfortable, This generation has gotten too
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: comfortable with the idea of everything is already said. It
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: was never peaceful. No, there's always been wars. There's never
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: been a time in this in this world that there
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: has been wars. We just don't have to be a
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: part of it. We don't have to be a part
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: We don't have to be right.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: And I think that's we don't have to be a
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: part of it, but our foreign affairs and the fact
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: that we if we don't, if we're not a part
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: of it, then the question is how do our alliances
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: suffer when we don't show up when our alliances need
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: We don't even have which alliances are playing us, because.
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: A lot of them are playing us.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: It's not I think that America needs to mind America's
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: motherfucking business. I think and that is like that that
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: that is the brass facts of it. At the end
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: of the day, this country, since its inception, has always
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: been in other people's business. And for us or or
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: even I'm not even gonna say us in this moment,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: for anybody that claims that they're being America first and
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: is not taking care of homeland America but wants to
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: spread out, how is he not.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: Taking care of homeland.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Is definitely taking care of hold on, I think mass
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: deportations is taking care of America.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: Girl, your whole church will be going in.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: They are legal immigrants, and it's crazy for you to
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: assume that they're not.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: You said that there was a Jamaican.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: Chair legal but how did you but how did you
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: get to be legal because at first you go, I, we.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: Don't have a problem with immigrants.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Let's be clear, immigrants precise. We have no problem with immigrants.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: We have a problem with people cutting in line. It's
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: not okay. That is a problem with people coming here
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: and living off of our social services without ever having
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: given a single tax dollar to those social services, while
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: especially black and brown Americans don't receive those social services.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: And get ignored in favor of someone that just got.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: You can't say people are from us when.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: We have Americans, I said, skin phone, are not kinfolks.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: You're gonna tell you real quick you.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Are not their people talk to Africans and they will
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: tell that. They tell their kids don't talk to those
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: black Americans. Yeah, I know already that conversation a long
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: time ago, but it's a.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: Great passionate conversation.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 7: But I want to make sure that we, you know,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 7: keep things in the space where we can hear each other.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: Right, you guys are doing it first of you two ladies.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 7: I was excited to see y'all here on the same couch,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 7: on these same mics.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: Y'all.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 6: Yo.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 7: When when Dodge speaks with a passion and understanding that
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 7: sometimes that's got sitting just without. When I listen to you,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 7: I feel the same way. So I'm glad that you
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 7: guys are able to converse, but I want to be
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 7: able to hear it. Trump, I know you've been trying
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 7: to get your points. So do you have any questions
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 7: from Marion as to what she said so far?
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: I have a lot, but I'll just start with where
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: our last asked, because I don't feel like it was
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: answered or might have got devailed a little bit. So
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: let me take a step back. You're incorrect me from Rome.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: You're basically saying that we can we should try to
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: take over Mexico, Canada, other countries in order because other
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: countries are doing the same, right, and we have to compete,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: and otherwise we could possibly lose any potential global wars
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: and things like that. Right, So, as a spirit spiritual person,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: which I am and I assume you are, what is
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: the end game here? Do you view? Do you look
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: at the world in an optimistic place of peace or
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: are you trying to be the worst person in the
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: best position? You know what I mean? Like, Okay, America
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: can be the actually morally and integrity wise and treatment
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: of human beings, killing, murder, rape, and all those things.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: America can achieve all of that and be the top
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: country on the globe. But at what point are you satisfied?
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: At what point do you think that's the goal versus
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: trying to achieve some sort of peace where we can coexist, okay.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 6: And human rights not be violentd I think what you're saying.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: That's the most important, Okay.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: I think that it would be beneficial to not.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: Be unrealistic about what this world is, right.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: I think that when we're looking at society, when we
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: look at the world around us, it is more bad
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: than good the things that are happening, especially in places
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: like Mexico. Especially Mexico has so much pain and suffering
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: and crime and abuse, especially of women and children, that
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: us taking it would actually be a good thing. Removing
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: the corrupt government would actually be a good thing. When
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: you see people that come here and they say, oh,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: the reason I'm coming is because the drug lords came
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: through my village and said to everyone, either you start
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: planting cocaine plants or start planting poppy plants for opium,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: or I kill your whole family. And my father is
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: the only one that resisted and they killed him, so
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: we had to flee.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: Those are things that I don't.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: Think it's better to leave that type of stuff alone
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: and turn a blind eye to it and say, well,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: in the name of peace between the two nations, I'm
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: not going to get involved. That's actually not even something
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: that America typically would say. America would say, we will
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: come to the defense of the defense list right.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: Well, I can't.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: I can't.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: I can't, I can't, I cannot.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: I can't even justify that when the Transatlantic slave trade
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: happened here, when there are people being massed incarcerated here,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: when our government is corrupt, where there are Americans that
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: cannot afford groceries right now, when there are people that
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: are suffering in our own country. But yet we can
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: stand on this moral high ground and say, let me
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: go save Mexico from I don't give a fuck about
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: a Mexican pause. And it's not even like like as
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: people like I care about people as people. But before
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: we go to a different country and tell them how
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: they need to do things in a just end or
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: moral way, we have to start here.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: And it's not happening here. We have drug lords here,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: we have.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: A whole crisis with opioids right here, with our own drugs.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: We have people that are strung out, we have vapes
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: being sold to children. I mean, like, there's so much
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: that's happening.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: Like I hear you. However, common America is not okay.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: We're not okay enough.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: That's It's like a sick lady going to say to
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: another sick lady like, oh, I'm going to take care
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: of you because you're sicker than I.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: We're both sick. We both need to sit.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: Down and take care of our own shit before we
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: can take care of somebody else's shit. And I don't
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: care how close they are, None of that matters. America
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: is not okay. So I don't disagree with you in
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: that regard. And again I am thank you so much.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: I am America first. I do want us to care
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: about ourselves first. My point in saying that we should take.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: Mexico is just I think that we should do it.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it has to happen tomorrow, next week,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: next month. I'm not saying that that should be our
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: number one priority. I just think that it would make
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: sense for us to do it, especially when we're talking
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: about strategic positioning to help us fight against our larger enemies,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: which is Russia and China and every Muslim nation.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: Basically, no, so what about allyship?
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Why do you have to But this is what I'm saying,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: Why is the thought process I need to take this
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: other land. We are all part of North America, Canada, Mexico,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: and the USA, the three of us. We should be allies,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: we should be butt buddies at this point, I don't
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: have to take Mexico for Mexico to so I can
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: have better land positioning, and I can I.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: Can spend myself.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: But you're saying that is if we haven't attempted negotiations,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: and why have better alliance because they're constantly letting millions of.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: Their people come over here illegally. They're constantly said, hold on.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: They send millions, if not billions of pounds of drugs
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: into this country every.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: Year, in half of it right now.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: Well, he doesn't even drink, So that's a crazy thing
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: to say.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: Just because you don't drink, don't mean that you don't
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: do other drugs.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: If I can, no, no, no, no, it's not even that.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: What I'm saying is, at the end of the day,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: we do not have the right to say what people
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: can and cannot do. Because if you want to be
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: technical half of America, that whole bottom part that they're
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: running across the border, it used to belong to Mexico anyway.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: So people are literally own a house for me.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Should you be able to if you bought a house
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: for me, should I be able to come in and
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: live there?
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: First of all, was purchased and the story from Mexico?
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: We know we did not. We purchased it from Spain. Okay,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: we purchased it.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: There multiple different purchases, Louisiana purchase and more than that.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: And then you have manifest destiny, our god given right
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: to to to expand westward. God, what you mean? God
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: did not give any It was given from God. God
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: did not say, here you go. How can you say
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: that we don't have ship? How can you suggest we
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: don't have a It's just their baby girl. I'm going
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: back to do another three episodes.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: What are you talking?
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 5: I can fly to Mexico.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I can fly to.
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  Speaker 2: La without a passport. It is ours, It is America.
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  Speaker 2: If we own it, we own it.
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  Speaker 5: We I don't care how we got it.
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  Speaker 4: If we ownly. We own it.
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  Speaker 5: I don't care how we got it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care.
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  Speaker 5: You don't care how we got.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, the majority of the land that America
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  Speaker 2: has is purchased land, and some of it has been conquered.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: But again, ask yourself.
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  Speaker 4: How did Mexico get so big? Ask yourself what happened
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  Speaker 4: to the Mayans?
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  Speaker 5: And smaller?
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  Speaker 2: It got smaller after it got bigger. It was huge
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  Speaker 2: at first. How you call you think, hold on top step, stop,
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  Speaker 2: stop because this is gonna like. This is where I
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: got started getting realistic with people. Yes, let's talk about humans. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: There's never been a time where one tribe didn't take
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  Speaker 2: over another tribe. That is not something that is inherently evil.
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  Speaker 2: It is not something that is inherently just a horrible
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  Speaker 2: thing that white people did. If you look at the
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  Speaker 2: original territory of any nation, you can watch over this
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  Speaker 2: series of centuries as it expands, and it is almost
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  Speaker 2: always through some sort of violence.
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  Speaker 3: Original point. Since the United Nations failed the end of
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  Speaker 3: World War Two, we including the United States, agree that
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  Speaker 3: this everything that you're talking about, is now considered a
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  Speaker 3: war crime. Yes, and so, especially as a conservative, I
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  Speaker 3: would think that you understand and respect law and order,
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  Speaker 3: right in some type of order.
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  Speaker 4: I'll ask you question, if.
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  Speaker 3: We consider things as war crimes, we can't conveniently Trump
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  Speaker 3: when it's okay for his own personal beliefs to be like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I know this is a war crime, but we're going
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  Speaker 3: to do it anyway. So at what point do you
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  Speaker 3: stick to the morals and the values that you believe
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  Speaker 3: in as a Christian or at one point do you
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  Speaker 3: be like, you know what, it doesn't matter who dies
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  Speaker 3: over there, because we're.
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  Speaker 6: Expanding, Like I hear what you're saying.
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  Speaker 3: You can't total line there.
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  Speaker 2: No, there is a line to be told because one,
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  Speaker 2: while you're correct about, you know, war crimes in natal
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  Speaker 2: et cetera, the reality is these other countries do not
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  Speaker 2: hold up their end.
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  Speaker 4: Of the bargain.
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  Speaker 2: They have been disrespect in the United States since the
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: beginning of that. Right, we look at China. There's a
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: whole reason why we're so against China.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: China, do you know how.
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  Speaker 2: Many American patents China completely rips off?
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  Speaker 5: Patents America ripped off. I don't give a shit.
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  Speaker 2: You should give a shit because you just said that
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  Speaker 2: it's not just about being black, American or African American
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: being American. So if you care, then you should care
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: about the fact that you, as a black American, if
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: you invent something and you can hold an American patent,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: someone in China will make the same thing and then
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  Speaker 2: sell it for twenty five cents and undercut all of
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: your profit.
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  Speaker 4: And the reason they can.
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  Speaker 2: Do that is because they have child labor, and they
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  Speaker 2: we we are so.
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  Speaker 4: Good, we're such good, good guys that we can't.
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  Speaker 2: We have so many labor laws in this country that
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: we can't use child labor or pay people pennies on
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: the freaking hour pennies and we cannot.
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  Speaker 4: Legally, you cannot do people do potentially, Do you think
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  Speaker 4: we should? I think no.
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  Speaker 2: I will say not to get no, not to get distracted,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: but I think that we should be matter of fact.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: I'll give you an example of what's actually happening. Florida
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  Speaker 2: is now. I don't know if they passed the law
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  Speaker 2: or they just introduced the bill to say that they
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: were going to allow people to yeah children to work
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: for less than the minimum wage if they want to.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Here's what I think about the minimum wage. Democrats consistently.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, no, I.
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  Speaker 6: Think answer the question.
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  Speaker 4: I think child labor.
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  Speaker 2: Is something that is horrible, and I also think that
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  Speaker 2: it's funny that most people are against child labor until
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: you see the Mexican lady walking with her baby on
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: her back and her little three year old selling chicle
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: chicle do in the in the train station here right.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: No one cares about those children when they're in child labor.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: No one cares about the illegal migrants. And that's what
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: that's what frustrates conversation.
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  Speaker 6: The Mexican lady selling the orange is not the child.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, the child. I have a video on my phone
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  Speaker 5: right now.
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  Speaker 2: When's the last time you've been in the train These
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  Speaker 2: kids are coming by, Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Go to the trade. These kids, they're just helping.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 5: The Chinese restaurant.
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  Speaker 2: Just exactly where's the child labor laws for that? How
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: is this kid doing his homework? Sitting at the front
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: door and taking your order, taking your money.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: That's work, he's doing work.
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  Speaker 2: We care about these children child labor laws until it
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: comes to illegal migrants.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: Then we turn a blind eye. And my frustration.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: Child some money.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: Else you can employ somewhere Else's yeah, I.
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  Speaker 7: Think father and son's trade. I think that's a part
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 7: of America history. I think people always trade.
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  Speaker 2: One you're making very aggressive assumptions that it's only happening
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: a parent to child.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: Obviously it could be, but that's not the.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: Case we're talking about.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 7: It's something that is very much part of American history
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  Speaker 7: before big business. They were father and sons, stores, father
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  Speaker 7: and trade. And if I see that a part of me,
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  Speaker 7: if I see that, it doesn't bother me to see
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 7: a child working with their family to build a family business.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: Or to learn a trade, it doesn't bother me.
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  Speaker 7: And I don't look at it the same way as
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 7: me paying somebody or ten kids in the back of
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 7: the sweatshop three dollars and taking advantage of them because
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 7: they don't have real.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 6: Agency over their bodies.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: Three dollars in the back of a sweatshop. It's different
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: because it's your child.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 5: We're complating.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: No, we're not complaining. Here's my point.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: My point is it's the same day.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 5: It's the same thing as having your kids work in
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: the house.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 6: I want to let's take a beat.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to quickly note that there was a
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: ice raid on a farm in California where they found
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: twenty five twenty or so children working underage children not
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: working for their parents, working in fields.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 7: We can't really talk about underaged children when you're president.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 7: Is part of the esp file investigation.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: The Jubilee episode that I just did where I debated
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: Roe Conna, who wrote the Epstein Transparency Act.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: That episode just dropped.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 6: Feel for your scene me would love to see that.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: Talk about this and dismantle this silly claim that Trump
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: had anything to do with those children just because he's
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: listed in the files. Because I will let you know
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: that Obama is listed in the files as well.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 5: Well, we will president twenty years ago.
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  Speaker 7: We will revisit that in part two of this episode.
• 1:15:21
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• 1:15:24
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• 1:16:00
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• 1:16:10
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