Latest / The Mental Healness Podcast / I Thought She Was Nagging, But She Was Just Expressing Feelings
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- 0:00I honestly thought my wife was an unhappy, nagging, complaining
- 0:04ass person, right? But of course, as I diagnose
- 0:06narcissist, I'm going to misinterpret a lot of things.
- 0:09Of course, as I diagnose narcissist, I'm going to see the
- 0:12world through my own kind of narcissistic lens, is right?
- 0:15And of course, she wasn't actually nagging, she was just
- 0:19feeling unheard. So that's what we talked about
- 0:21today, y'all? How I and other narcissist
- 0:24misinterpret people's feelings when it when it affects us
- 0:27negatively, when it makes us feel bad at about ourselves and
- 0:31how we feel internally. How we feel as a person when we
- 0:34take your feelings or the feeling feelings of other people
- 0:38as as a personal attacks instead of just constructive criticism
- 0:42and love coming from a different place right?
- 0:44But before we hop too deep into the make sure you hit that
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- 0:49My wife had left for the last time around what?
- 0:52This is February, March of 2020, right around when the pandemic
- 0:56was first getting kicked off and 1st getting started and the
- 0:59governor, right, I think it was Roy Cooper at the time had lit
- 1:02had it had like put out a stay at home order, right?
- 1:06And guess what? She did not stay at home.
- 1:08She she left. She packed herself up and left.
- 1:11And of course, I wasn't taking any type of accountability.
- 1:13I was blaming her. Blah, blah, blah, Boo Boo Boo
- 1:15Boo Boo. Y'all get it?
- 1:16Y'all get out of mind of a narcissist where I don't need to
- 1:18go into detail, but honestly, we had a couple marriage counseling
- 1:22sessions and I feel like that's what helped me out right before
- 1:25I go, I go any further. This is in no way, shape or form
- 1:30an endorsement for you to go to marriage counseling with an
- 1:33abusive narcissistic partner. This is not an endorsement.
- 1:36I have been in therapy for nine years, right?
- 1:38So my mind works a little different, right?
- 1:40And this is not, this is not me saying I'm the best narcissist
- 1:43in the world. This is just me stating factual
- 1:45data that I've had nine years of therapy, right?
- 1:47Don't let my therapy journey influence you to go to therapy
- 1:49with a lying, manipulative, cheating, narcissistic bastard.
- 1:53OK, that's it right there. But in reality, like we went to
- 1:56marriage counseling and the therapist let her talk, you
- 1:59know, he's on Zoom. So she muted me and just let my
- 2:01wife have a few minutes to just get her, get it all out of her
- 2:04system. And when my wife was talking,
- 2:06right, the whole time she was talking in my mind, I'm like,
- 2:09she is nagging, she is complaining.
- 2:11She's only talking about the bad stuff, right?
- 2:13That's how I saw it. I felt like everything that she
- 2:16was saying was 100% a personal attack on me from her own skewed
- 2:20perspective or something, that it was her dad's fault, right?
- 2:23Your dad wasn't there. So that's why you misinterpret
- 2:26things that a real man does. You don't know how a real man is
- 2:29supposed to act, right? But of course, I was not acting
- 2:31and behaving and treating her like a real man should.
- 2:33Of course. I yeah, I get, I get that.
- 2:35Just back off. Give me, give me a little.
- 2:36Give me a little grace. Damn, now, but for real, though,
- 2:41I was I was really not a good partner at that time.
- 2:44But while she was talking under new because this is over zoom,
- 2:47right while she was talking, I'm taking notes under the camera,
- 2:50right. You like I'm writing right now.
- 2:53You can't tell that I'm writing because you can't see my hands
- 2:55moving, but I'm taking notes on the under the camera just so I
- 2:58can have a rebuttal to everything that she's saying.
- 3:01Like everything that she's saying I have an excuse for.
- 3:04I'm going to like I cannot wait to talk.
- 3:06I'm expose you for how wrong you are, right?
- 3:08Because I had been in therapy so long, when it came my turn to
- 3:11talk, I took a second right. I was just like, what is she
- 3:15actually saying? Is she actually complaining or
- 3:19is she actually telling the truth right?
- 3:21Am I misinterpreting her complaints as the, her truth as
- 3:28a complaint, right, Is what she's saying.
- 3:31Does it hold any water? Is it valid in any way, shape or
- 3:33form? And of course it did, man.
- 3:36Of course I took my time with a response, with a reply.
- 3:39I told, I told her I just, I straight, I like, you know what?
- 3:42I got to do something different here, right?
- 3:44I have to change my way. I, I, I, I can't keep doing the
- 3:47same thing because she's like, honestly, I, like, she's in
- 3:51control right now. She can like she doesn't have to
- 3:53come back. Like if I want her to come back,
- 3:56I have to be willing to sit right here and listen.
- 3:59I have to be willing to take a little accountability or or else
- 4:02she's not going to come back. Y'all don't know how the mind of
- 4:04a narcissist works? I'm also thinking like, I can
- 4:06find somebody else. I can find a different person,
- 4:08right? That's true.
- 4:09A lot of narcissists can find different people.
- 4:11They can find a new supply, but it will never be the same,
- 4:14right? But that's one thing I literally
- 4:16had to acknowledge in my own journey that I could find
- 4:18somebody else, but it wouldn't be the same.
- 4:20I could feign happiness. I could feign like I was making
- 4:22a better decision, but it wouldn't.
- 4:24But so I really had to sit there and think, I like, she's not
- 4:27nagging. She's telling the uncomfortable
- 4:30truth for me. It's not.
- 4:31It was uncomfortable for her as well because we needed a
- 4:34marriage counselor for her even to be able to, to have the
- 4:36courage to say that right, to feel like and for not only have
- 4:39a marriage counselor for not us not to be in the same room, for
- 4:42us not to be in the same house under the same roof, for her to
- 4:44feel comfortable enough to say that.
- 4:46So I had to like literally sit there and take.
- 4:48I was like, and when it became my turn to talk, instead of
- 4:52unleashing all this stuff that I had written down to say, I
- 4:56literally said you're right. You're 100% right.
- 5:02I don't have the authority to tell you how you should feel
- 5:06based on my behaviors. And I honestly think that
- 5:09shocked my wife, right? I honestly think it shocked her
- 5:12system because she's not accustomed to me talking like
- 5:14that, right? Most people are not accustomed
- 5:16to hearing their partner just take 100% accountability,
- 5:19especially when you're dealing with somebody that's clinically
- 5:21diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder.
- 5:23I was like, you know, you're right.
- 5:25I have not been the best partner.
- 5:27You are not nagging. I, I thought it was nagging
- 5:31because it made me feel bad when you, when you are talking about
- 5:35something that I have actually done and it makes me feel bad.
- 5:40That's not your fault. That's on me.
- 5:44That's 100% on me. You're like, if I do something
- 5:48wrong, if I just yelled at you, right for no reason.
- 5:51If I you you were trying to have a conversation with me in a quad
- 5:54calm voice and now I'm screaming and yelling.
- 5:57That's not your fault that I can't control the volume of my
- 5:59damn voice. That's on me.
- 6:01If I'm yelling and screaming, that's on me.
- 6:04Now, could I blame it on you? Yes, I could.
- 6:07Yeah, I could. Now, when I say blame it on you,
- 6:10it doesn't mean that like I'm it's 100% your fault, right?
- 6:13Just means that this is how I'm trying to escape the shame.
- 6:16I'm trying to get away from shame in the quickest way.
- 6:19The fastest way for someone, a narcissist like myself, to get
- 6:22rid of shame is to deflect it somewhere else.
- 6:25So in essence, to put it on you, it's very easy for us to put it
- 6:30on to you in these situations right here.
- 6:32So that's why you get a lot of narcissists that deflect.
- 6:34It's like, it's kind of like you playing narcissistic tennis,
- 6:37right? You hit something.
- 6:38You you hit it one way, they're serving it right back, right?
- 6:41And it's it's a very difficult thing to even try to deal with
- 6:45because you have a narcissistic person that's just being
- 6:48abusive. They're just, they're not trying
- 6:50to come to a conclusion like you are trying to not not conclusion
- 6:54A consensus, right? You are trying to come to a
- 6:57consensus. They are trying to win, right?
- 6:59Narcissist see everything in terms of wins and losses.
- 7:03If I have to admit take accountability, that's a loss.
- 7:08Now, anything outside of me, immediate accountability is a
- 7:12win. If I can get you, if I can give
- 7:15you a little bit and get a lot, that's a victory.
- 7:17If I can, if, if I can take 5% accountability, but also somehow
- 7:23get you to admit some type of wrongdoing, that's a win, right?
- 7:27Narcissist. And y'all, a lot, a lot of y'all
- 7:29can attest to this. When you're arguing with a
- 7:30narcissist, like they are arguing to win, they're
- 7:34absolutely not trying to hear you out.
- 7:36They don't want to hear what you have to say.
- 7:37They're not trying to just be equitable or have a decent, a
- 7:41decent conversation. They are trying to win.
- 7:43They're trying to defeat you in battle, which I know sounds
- 7:46stupid when you're dealing with a partner, but they're trying to
- 7:48defeat you in battle that they run through your head right
- 7:51there. It's something as simple as an
- 7:54argument is taken as treated like a battle when you're
- 7:58dealing with a narcissist. I know that.
- 7:59Again, I know how ignorant that sounds, y'all, because I'm the
- 8:03one saying it, I'm the one living it.
- 8:05I know how ignorant and how dumb this sounds when I say it out
- 8:10loud. You don't have to come at me.
- 8:11And just like Lee, that sounds so stupid.
- 8:13I know I'm the one that's saying it, right.
- 8:16I'm the one that has lived it and of course y'all have lived
- 8:19it as well on the other side. That's going to be different.
- 8:22You know what I mean? Because you were survivor and
- 8:23I'm not. Well, I've deal with a
- 8:25narcissistic woman. I don't know.
- 8:26I would never consider myself a survivor.
- 8:28I had a narcissistic woman I've dealt with, but I'm more
- 8:31narcissistic than her. I would say especially now,
- 8:34right. I thought she was nagging.
- 8:36I know a lot of people. If you, and this is not just a
- 8:38male to a female or female to male thing, this could be like
- 8:42the same gender. This can be parent to child or
- 8:44whatever the case may be like the narcissist in your life.
- 8:48When you're offering some type of constructive criticism or
- 8:51trying to correct a wrongdoing or trying to get an apology,
- 8:54they are 100% taking that as a personal attack on themselves.
- 8:59They're looking at you like why you attacking me?
- 9:02Some of them might say it. They might literally look you
- 9:04directly in your face and say, why you attacking me?
- 9:08Why are you being like, why are you coming at me like that?
- 9:09Why can't you? Just why you?
- 9:11Why can't we have a civil conversation?
- 9:12And outside of the accountability, it is civil,
- 9:15isn't it? That's how it goes outside of
- 9:17you holding them accountable. It is civil until they start
- 9:20losing their minds and yelling at you and screaming at you and
- 9:23trying to find a way to hold you accountable for something that
- 9:27they themselves have done. Because that's the rough part,
- 9:29right? That's the rough part right
- 9:30there when they try to hold you accountable for something that
- 9:35they themselves have done, right?
- 9:37And that's why they consider it nagging.
- 9:39Any like, if it's not praise, if you're not praising them, you
- 9:45are criticizing them. I'll say it just like that.
- 9:48If it's not praise, if you're not praising them, you are
- 9:51criticizing them. And it's not me just trying to
- 9:53say that everything is criticism.
- 9:54But if it's not good, they automatically take it as bad,
- 9:57right? If it's not something that makes
- 9:59me smile, it's automatically going to make me sad.
- 10:02And that's literally the way a lot of narcissist minds work,
- 10:04right? Like you are trying to hurt me.
- 10:06You are trying to do something bad to me.
- 10:08I didn't deserve this. And again y'all, there's no way
- 10:14to correct a narcissist behavior until they themselves want to
- 10:18correct sad behavior. Unless, unless you have some
- 10:23type of leverage, in order to get a narcissist to move, you
- 10:28have to have some type of leverage to get them to move.
- 10:31You have to have some type of leverage to move them because
- 10:34otherwise they'll just keep trying to run over top of you,
- 10:36right? Because that's how Narcissus
- 10:37work. I'm going to run over top of you
- 10:39because some way, shape or form, I see this as a direct benefit
- 10:42to me. And that's how I keep working.
- 10:44That's how I keep doing what I do, right?
- 10:46Right. Because Narcissus is going to
- 10:48see it that way, right? So you made it this far in a
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