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HOA story from Arizona · Chuck Douglas

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  Speaker 1: Greeting salutations. Welcome my friends to another edition of The
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  Speaker 1: Power Hour on six ten double UTV, and I'm Chuck Douglas.
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  Speaker 1: You know who you are, and we take it from there.
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  Speaker 1: My number eight two one nine eight eight six A
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  Speaker 1: two one WTV in or eight hundred and six y
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  Speaker 1: ten WTV And Zachary, are you ready to work up
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  Speaker 1: a sweat?
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  Speaker 2: I'm ready because.
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  Speaker 1: I have a feeling the phones. The phones may be busy.
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  Speaker 3: Tonight because I'm on the air with you.
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  Speaker 1: It happens not because you're on the air, but because
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  Speaker 1: of what I want to talk about. Okay, home owners Association,
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  Speaker 1: I got a story for you. You probably have one
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  Speaker 1: or two of your own. So yeah, eight two one
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  Speaker 1: nine eight eighty six is my number. The uh oh
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  Speaker 1: my gosh. I am not anti homeowners association as a
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  Speaker 1: general rule. I have been a homeowners association trustee, I
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  Speaker 1: have been the president of a homeowners association. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: anti homeowners association. That being said, this is one of
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  Speaker 1: the dumbest things, and I'm just I'm so sick of
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  Speaker 1: government at all levels. People attempting to flex their muscle,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to be in control, to show you how
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  Speaker 1: powerful they are This association is in Arizona. You're familiar
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  Speaker 1: with Arizona. It's a dry heat. Homeowner in Goodyear, Arizona
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  Speaker 1: locked in a dispute with his homeowners association over a
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  Speaker 1: practice of distributing free cold water from his driveway. It's
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  Speaker 1: a dry heat. David Martin has been handing out bottles
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  Speaker 1: of cold water to his neighbors and passers by. It's
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  Speaker 1: for the kids, it's for the delivery driver, it's for
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  Speaker 1: the couple holding hands walking down the street. It's for
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  Speaker 1: the little kid who has to walk his dog in
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  Speaker 1: the heat. That's what he says. The Canyon Trails Homeowners'
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  Speaker 1: Association and its management company F five Residential. There's always
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  Speaker 1: a management company F five Residential began, Oh wait, mine,
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  Speaker 1: hang I it's got to pop up blocking the story.
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  Speaker 1: So it's going to keep me from doing it. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want the app. I just want to read the story.
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  Speaker 1: Began finding him. There we go to the tune of
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  Speaker 1: one hundred dollars per infraction, so every time they cite
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  Speaker 1: one hundred dollars. Neighbor Rich Costas expressed confusion over the
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  Speaker 1: ahoa's actions, saying, I have no idea why they're coming
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  Speaker 1: down on him. I don't know, doesn't make any sense
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  Speaker 1: to me. Here we are in July, the hottest day
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  Speaker 1: of the year, still talking about a water cooler with
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  Speaker 1: free cold water. It's ridiculous they're already or they're adding
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  Speaker 1: violations to a total that's not going to get paid
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  Speaker 1: because it's giving out free cold water. One hundred signatures
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  Speaker 1: have been gathered from his neighbors asking the HOA to
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  Speaker 1: cool out and get off the board because they're making
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  Speaker 1: everybody mad. Martin, the guy who's been sighted here, says,
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  Speaker 1: I'm hoping with three new board members getting elected, they'll
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  Speaker 1: see that they're wasting time and money on a water
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  Speaker 1: cooler that's helping the community. And it's just a waste
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  Speaker 1: one hundred dollars per infraction that they are hitting this
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  Speaker 1: guy with for cold water, not because it's water, not
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  Speaker 1: because it's free, not because it's in plastic bottles. Here's
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  Speaker 1: the reason, the ultimate reason that they are using to
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  Speaker 1: cite him, because there's a cooler in his driveway when
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  Speaker 1: he hands out the water. But I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: you could be much more stupid. Now, again, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: anti HOA, but I know you guys have your stories
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  Speaker 1: out there because these homeowners associations at times, depending upon
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  Speaker 1: who you get run in the show. You know, some
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  Speaker 1: of them want to get just dumb, and that's a
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  Speaker 1: local homeowners association association.
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  Speaker 2: D I got recorded.
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  Speaker 1: The documents Loveland Documents is what we used back in
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  Speaker 1: the nineties when I was were a generic set of
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  Speaker 1: documents with deed restrictions for homes. When new builds came in,
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  Speaker 1: new communities were built, they had these deed restrictions. Now,
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  Speaker 1: generally the builder would run the homeowners association until a
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  Speaker 1: certain percentage of the neighborhood was constructed sixty eighty percent, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and at that time they would turn the association over
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  Speaker 1: to the residents. The documents, the deed restrictions were part
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  Speaker 1: of the purchase and the buyers had access to them
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  Speaker 1: prior to buying or contracting to build a home, so
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  Speaker 1: you knew what you were getting into. However, they change
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  Speaker 1: a bit, they're tweaked a bit, depending upon where you
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  Speaker 1: are now. With ours, we had I think there were
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  Speaker 1: four different stages of development in my neighborhood, a total
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  Speaker 1: of two hundred and eighty eight homes. The deed restrictions
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  Speaker 1: in stage one were a bit different than Stage two, three,
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  Speaker 1: and four because as they continued to build they made
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  Speaker 1: modifications as standards changed and so forth. In stage one,
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  Speaker 1: when it was brand new, you could not have, for example,
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  Speaker 1: a metal swing set. It had to be a constructed
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  Speaker 1: wood swing set or playset or whatever in the backyard
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  Speaker 1: for the kids. You could not have a satellite dish
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  Speaker 1: visible from the street. Well, because direct TV and dish
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  Speaker 1: tea Dish Network TV were just kind of coming into
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  Speaker 1: play back then, what they were saying was you couldn't
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  Speaker 1: have one of those big contact Mars satellite dishes in
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  Speaker 1: your backyard in this neighborhood. Well, as things changed, as
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  Speaker 1: the smaller dishes became available, they tweaked. Now, their first
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  Speaker 1: tweak was kind of stupid, but it was a way
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  Speaker 1: to sell skylights to people. They would allow you to
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  Speaker 1: put the small dish in the attic using a skylight
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  Speaker 1: in order for the dish to contact the satellite. By
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  Speaker 1: stage three of the neighborhood, you could just have the
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  Speaker 1: dish outside on your back deck or whatever, which was okay.
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  Speaker 1: The colors of homes that were like haven different color
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  Speaker 1: combinations that you could get when you built the home,
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  Speaker 1: as far as the vinyl sighting the fake shutters and
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  Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. One guy moved and he
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  Speaker 1: immediately painted his stuff. I think it was uh, I
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  Speaker 1: want to say, like a neon green. Painted his garage
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  Speaker 1: door with this neon green and painted his shutters neonger
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  Speaker 1: and the house.
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  Speaker 2: Just really really stood out, really popped, and he was
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  Speaker 2: actually forced to then paint back one of the original
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  Speaker 2: colors that was allowed in the neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: Does it seem silly, well, yeah, But again he was
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  Speaker 1: in stage two. They were still trying to sell Stage
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  Speaker 1: three and four, and it was detrimental of their business
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  Speaker 1: to have people coming in on the main drag seeing
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  Speaker 1: this fluorescent green house. And you signed the deed restrictions
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  Speaker 1: when you bought the house. You agreed to these terms
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  Speaker 1: when you bought the house. Now here in the state
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  Speaker 1: of Ohio as a realtor. This is something I've been
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  Speaker 1: griping about for you years. I talked to the members
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  Speaker 1: of the legislature about it. Deed restrictions do not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: convey from the builder, the first person who built a home,
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  Speaker 1: to the second or subsequent buyers, which I find ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: If your home has deed restrictions, and generally they're twenty
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  Speaker 1: years from the day to build. You should have those.
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  Speaker 1: So somebody builds a house and then five years later
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  Speaker 1: they decide, hey, we need a bigger place or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: they sell the house. There's no requirement in Ohio that
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  Speaker 1: those deed restrictions be provided to you by that seller. Now,
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  Speaker 1: a realtor, I you know, that's something I do. That's
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  Speaker 1: one of the things. If I've got a buyer for
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  Speaker 1: a house that's you know, say built in the nineteen
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  Speaker 1: nineties or up, chances are it's going to have a
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  Speaker 1: homeowner's association, and so as part of the inspect period
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  Speaker 1: on the house, when you write the offer, not only
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  Speaker 1: do I want to see the residential property disclosure, I
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  Speaker 1: also want access to the deed restrictions not later than
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  Speaker 1: seventy two hours after acceptance of the offer, with five
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  Speaker 1: days for the buyer to review those deed restrictions to
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  Speaker 1: make sure there's nothing crazy in there. Because as they
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  Speaker 1: can be tweaked by the builder, they can also be
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  Speaker 1: tweaked by the trustees, the people running the association if
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  Speaker 1: they manage to get a vote past the homeowners, and
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  Speaker 1: if they do that in the first you know, when
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  Speaker 1: the development is not completely done yet, then they need
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  Speaker 1: fewer votes to get it done so things can be tweaked.
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  Speaker 1: You want to make sure that a buyer is aware
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  Speaker 1: of but you don't. Legally, there's no requirement. That's just
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  Speaker 1: a service you do because it makes sense. But for
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  Speaker 1: this guy to be facing one hundred dollars every time
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  Speaker 1: they say, hey, your sell You're a giveaway water out
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  Speaker 1: of here.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I just I wanted to bring that to your attention,
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  Speaker 1: just to show you how ridiculous our world is becoming,
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  Speaker 1: and to give you a chance to because I know
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  Speaker 1: many of you have your your homeowners association or your
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  Speaker 1: condo association stories where you just you can't believe they
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  Speaker 1: even knocked on your door since you something a two
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  Speaker 1: one nine eight eight six number eight two one WTV.
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  Speaker 1: And do you have one out there where you live,
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  Speaker 1: because there's a lot of associations out there in.
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  Speaker 3: That Yeah, yeah, I have one, but mine's not bad.
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  Speaker 1: Do they do they exist? That? That's my question? Do
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  Speaker 1: they exist? They even have meetings? Do you even know
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  Speaker 1: who they are?
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  Speaker 3: I know they have meetings because I get the I
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  Speaker 3: get the mail form, but I don't ever like I've
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  Speaker 3: never went to one. But again, I don't hear anything
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  Speaker 3: from them ever ever, except every once in a while
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  Speaker 3: to be like, hey, it's it's winner, be careful drive
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  Speaker 3: like just stuff like that. Other than that, nothing.
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  Speaker 1: The rules are not bad. I mean, it's not always
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  Speaker 1: a bad thing to have uniform standards. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: don't want somebody just like Columbus has code, the Columbus
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  Speaker 1: City Code, you cannot build a six foot uh privacy
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  Speaker 1: fence across it's the front of your house in the
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  Speaker 1: city of Columbus's that's against city code. They will come out,
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  Speaker 1: they will cite you, they will make you knock that
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  Speaker 1: fence down to not more than four feet in the rear.
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  Speaker 1: You can go six feet, but you can't go that
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  Speaker 1: high in the front. And I pass some infractions every
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  Speaker 1: single day over there on my beloved West Side, on
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  Speaker 1: some main thoroughfares where people have built the big, you know,
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  Speaker 1: fortress fences around in front of their homes, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's detrimental. I think it looks bad. And
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  Speaker 1: if that ordinance was being enforced by the code enforcement people,
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  Speaker 1: that would have come down by now. But in a
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  Speaker 1: neighborhood where you want You want things to stay nice,
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  Speaker 1: to look good, to be to be attractive to future
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  Speaker 1: buyers even after the community is done, Because wouldn't you
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  Speaker 1: like the home value to go up when you buy
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  Speaker 1: a home when you like to sell in five years
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  Speaker 1: and actually, you know, make a little more money so
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  Speaker 1: you can put that into the next place. You don't
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  Speaker 1: want it to go down and become, you know, some
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  Speaker 1: getified project looking Oh my goodness, nobody cares about this place.
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  Speaker 1: Thing so properly run by reasonable people. I think those
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  Speaker 1: associations do have their place, but in this case, those
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  Speaker 1: folks are way off target as far as I'm concerned.