Latest / Arroe Collins Like It's Live / Pod Crashing 101 Episode 478 Tik Tok Versus 45 Minute Podcast Talk
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Aero dot net. It's more than just a podcast, it's
- 0:02Speaker 1: twenty different daily choices. I mean, I've been in the
- 0:05Speaker 1: car where it's like, what do I want to listen
- 0:07Speaker 1: to now? I don't want to listen to the news.
- 0:08Speaker 1: I don't want to listen to sports. I don't want
- 0:10Speaker 1: to listen to this. I don't want to listen to that.
- 0:12Speaker 1: My god, we are picky when it comes to podcasts.
- 0:14Speaker 1: That's why we have Arrow dot net Arroe dot net.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Enjoy your exploration. Hey, what's going on? My name is Errow.
- 0:22Speaker 1: I'm the host of the weekly podcast Podcrashing as well
- 0:25Speaker 1: as Podcrashing one on one, two completely different podcasts. They
- 0:29Speaker 1: are episodes that connect listeners to podcast specialists around the world.
- 0:34Speaker 1: The goal has always been to inform our community with
- 0:37Speaker 1: subjects that deal with everything and beyond. Podcast hosts are
- 0:41Speaker 1: usually very open and always filled with a spirit that
- 0:44Speaker 1: spreads their skills as journalists, medical specialists, true crime solvers, gamblers, motivators, spiritualists, actors,
- 0:50Speaker 1: and even their children. Plus don't forget if you've got
- 0:54Speaker 1: an idea for a podcast, anything can become your next episode.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Pod Crashing one on one has been around since March
- 1:02Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen. The original goal was to put my
- 1:05Speaker 1: focus on helping up and coming podcasters to have the
- 1:09Speaker 1: right information about hosting as well as surviving. That idea
- 1:13Speaker 1: went fifty four episodes before inviting new ideas, such as
- 1:18Speaker 1: allowing the podcasters from around the world to share their
- 1:21Speaker 1: voices and stories. The purpose of Podcrashing one on one
- 1:25Speaker 1: is to help you build your own platform, promote it,
- 1:28Speaker 1: and even earn some money. This is Podcrashing one on
- 1:33Speaker 1: one episode number four hundred seventy eight. If three minute
- 1:38Speaker 1: TikTok videos are scoring millions, wire podcasters still doing forty
- 1:44Speaker 1: five to ninety minute podcasts, one answer straight to the point.
- 1:49Speaker 1: The goal of a podcast and a short form video
- 1:52Speaker 1: are one hundred percent completely different, although both live on
- 1:56Speaker 1: the Internet. A three minute video clip getting millions of views,
- 2:00Speaker 1: it doesn't really solve the problem. So let's break it down.
- 2:04Speaker 1: It's engagement versus reach. TikTok is all about the outreach,
- 2:10Speaker 1: whereas a podcast it's built for deep engagement. Here's the
- 2:15Speaker 1: really good news for podcasters advertisers, the ones paying you
- 2:19Speaker 1: they want forty five minutes or longer for someone's attention.
- 2:24Speaker 1: This is not knocking TikTok, but it's best known for
- 2:27Speaker 1: getting casual views. Another plus for podcasts is how they
- 2:31Speaker 1: are listened to during the period called dead time, you know,
- 2:36Speaker 1: when you're in the car, driving, walking, working out, or
- 2:38Speaker 1: doing chores. Listeners want long term comfort. They don't want
- 2:43Speaker 1: to be stuck searching for the next video on TikTok.
- 2:48Speaker 1: I've got three podcasts that are about ninety seconds, so
- 2:51Speaker 1: I'm guilty of this crime a very short podcasts. So
- 2:54Speaker 1: once again, I've got three podcasts that go about ninety
- 2:56Speaker 1: seconds to maybe four and a half minutes, which is
- 2:59Speaker 1: a long way away from the suggested forty five minutes. Whew,
- 3:05Speaker 1: I guess I'm failing in the department of this order. Hey,
- 3:09Speaker 1: coming up next, we're going to continue the subject. Now
- 3:11Speaker 1: we're going to put focus on how we're going to
- 3:13Speaker 1: make the money as well as how we're going to
- 3:15Speaker 1: refocus our attention on that so called forty five minutes
- 3:19Speaker 1: that podcasters need. Do they really need it? Hey, welcome
- 3:25Speaker 1: back to podcrashing one on one. Why are podcasters doing
- 3:28Speaker 1: forty five minute and longer episodes whereas TikTok is getting
- 3:32Speaker 1: away with three minutes? Cauz Podcast economies favor longer shows.
- 3:38Speaker 1: Advertisers want mid rolls to plant their ads. The average
- 3:42Speaker 1: forty five to sixty minute podcast has pre roll ads,
- 3:46Speaker 1: mid roll as well as post roll. For podcasts, that's
- 3:50Speaker 1: three times the place of money. If you're playing the
- 3:52Speaker 1: game right, Well, why such a long podcast? TikTok feels
- 3:56Speaker 1: more like a trailer? Who better to know that than
- 3:59Speaker 1: pods casters promoting their long form work. The goal is
- 4:03Speaker 1: to push potential listeners away from TikTok and straight to you. Plus,
- 4:08Speaker 1: we can't forget about audience expectations. It's no secret that
- 4:12Speaker 1: podcasters like Joe Rogan and SmartLess establish a real, honest
- 4:16Speaker 1: to god connection the second they're turned into a three
- 4:19Speaker 1: minute episode, and that hardcore audience is going to walk away.
- 4:24Speaker 1: TikTok videos are all about discovery. Long podcast episodes equal loyalty,
- 4:31Speaker 1: which is used to help build that relationship. But but, but,
- 4:34Speaker 1: but butt. As much as we praise longer podcast episodes, research,
- 4:39Speaker 1: oh the glorious research has unveiled that people's attention spans
- 4:44Speaker 1: are getting shorter and shorter, and that equals burnout. Who
- 4:51Speaker 1: I'm eryl and that's podcrashing one on one