Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Marcus Beveridge: Queen City Law Managing Director on Winston Peters' criticism of the India FTA
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Todd mcclay's confirmed the Free Trade Agreement with India will
- 0:04Speaker 1: not allow the government to cap the number of students
- 0:07Speaker 1: coming in from India. They can cap, however, the number
- 0:11Speaker 1: of international students overall, but the FTA would not allow
- 0:16Speaker 1: this or any future government to restrict students coming from India.
- 0:20Speaker 1: This will came from an interview on The Herald's Rhyan
- 0:23Speaker 1: Bridge today yesterday. Marcus Beveridge is managing director and immigration
- 0:27Speaker 1: lawyer at Queen City Law and joins me this morning. Marcus,
- 0:29Speaker 1: good morning Mining. So was Winston Peter's right? I mean
- 0:34Speaker 1: they're kind of both right in in a technical way.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bit of a reds under your beds
- 0:41Speaker 2: and Asian invasion sort of stuff, and it's a lightning
- 0:43Speaker 2: rod for New Zealand to this issue. But in actual fact,
- 0:45Speaker 2: Winston did the same thing when we signed the Free
- 0:47Speaker 2: Trade Agreement about twenty years ago. Helen Cooke shut him
- 0:51Speaker 2: down at that time. I think Todd McKay, McLay and
- 0:54Speaker 2: the Prime Minister have been a bit feeble and the
- 0:57Speaker 2: week on this one, but so he's got a lot
- 0:59Speaker 2: of political wich. We don't cap any foreign students, so
- 1:04Speaker 2: the whole thing's a bit of a red hearing in
- 1:06Speaker 2: some ways.
- 1:07Speaker 1: Yes, I know, but we might want to at some point,
- 1:10Speaker 1: you know, So in that sense, does he have a point?
- 1:14Speaker 2: Well, he doesn't. He doesn't. In the old days, like
- 1:16Speaker 2: with India, it's very hard to get visas anyway. They're
- 1:18Speaker 2: put them through all sorts of hoops because of all
- 1:20Speaker 2: the fraud and so on. So in the old days
- 1:22Speaker 2: they just take the embassy out or take the visa
- 1:24Speaker 2: processing function out of that country and put it in
- 1:27Speaker 2: Singapore and make it really hard. But now that it's online,
- 1:30Speaker 2: I think typically it takes about ninety days for a
- 1:32Speaker 2: student laser from India. If you're Indi and you're going
- 1:35Speaker 2: to London or Germany, it takes about a week to
- 1:39Speaker 2: get approved. And you know, we're talking about jurisdiction that
- 1:42Speaker 2: in twenty thirty will be a third of the entire
- 1:44Speaker 2: world's global workforce. So you know, they they could pro
- 1:50Speaker 2: create twenty or thirty thousand foreign students and one day
- 1:54Speaker 2: in India. By the way it sort of rolls.
- 1:57Speaker 1: Yeah, just on a numbers game. What about the work
- 2:00Speaker 1: rights of a student? How long if you've got a
- 2:02Speaker 1: student visa here? What is it twenty hours a week
- 2:04Speaker 1: or thirty hours a week, you can.
- 2:05Speaker 2: Work, yeah, twenty hours a week. And I've gotten mates
- 2:08Speaker 2: who are sort of complaining that kids can't even get
- 2:10Speaker 2: part time work at the moment. So you know, that's
- 2:13Speaker 2: Winston in terms of New Zealand. First, it's a consideration
- 2:16Speaker 2: for us, but I guess we've got to weigh up,
- 2:18Speaker 2: you know, all the positive things associated with a free
- 2:21Speaker 2: trade agreement with such a big marketplace, and certainly weed
- 2:25Speaker 2: out the people we don't want, including some of the
- 2:28Speaker 2: downtown uber drivers.
- 2:29Speaker 1: And hope that by the time the ft APTA actually
- 2:33Speaker 1: comes into force that we are in a position where
- 2:35Speaker 1: we have enough jobs to go around.
- 2:38Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point too. But look, I mean,
- 2:41Speaker 2: just just pivoting the Golden visas, we don't. We don't.
- 2:44Speaker 2: There's no age discrimination, there's no cap, there is no
- 2:48Speaker 2: cap on those numbers coming in. I mean, there's only
- 2:50Speaker 2: five hundred families under that program so far in one
- 2:54Speaker 2: year under Indian students. In his own I think there's
- 2:56Speaker 2: twelve thousand at the moment, and we could probably handle
- 2:59Speaker 2: the more. But yeah, allowing them all to work twenty hours,
- 3:02Speaker 2: and whether that's at the edge of the wedge and
- 3:04Speaker 2: they do a few more under the table or whatever.
- 3:06Speaker 2: I mean, it's a consideration that we have to be
- 3:08Speaker 2: mindful of. And the if you go to Silicon Valley,
- 3:12Speaker 2: I mean it's filled with Indians and Chinese and they've
- 3:14Speaker 2: all got PhDs and electronic engineering. So we want to
- 3:17Speaker 2: somehow get the ones that work well for us.
- 3:20Speaker 1: Marcus, appreciate your time this morning. Marcus Beverage, Managing director
- 3:23Speaker 1: and immigration lawyer at Queens City Law.
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