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- Lucas: So there's this deal I came across — logistics SaaS, midmarket company, about 300 employees. The rep, let's call him Mark, was up against a massive incumbent — think one of the top three players in the space. The prospect had been using that incumbent for five years. Mark had one initial call and he knew he was outgunned on features, brand, and reference accounts. Luna: Sounds like a long shot. What did he do, ask for a walkthrough? Lucas: Exactly that. On the first call, instead of launching into his demo or pushing his differentiators, Mark said, 'I know you're busy, but I'd love to see how you actually use the current system — maybe a 20-minute screen share of a typical day.' Not a sales pitch — a genuine request to learn. Luna: And the buyer agreed? I feel like a lot of prospects would say they don't have time. Lucas: Mark framed it as a courtesy — 'I want to make sure I don't waste your time showing you things you don't need.' The buyer appreciated that. They scheduled it for the next day. And within that 20-minute walkthrough, Mark spotted three workflow gaps the incumbent wasn't solving. Luna: What kind of gaps? Lucas: First, the buyer had to manually export data from the incumbent's system into a spreadsheet because the reporting module didn't integrate with their ERP. Second, the approval workflow required three separate logins — the buyer, their manager, and finance — with no automated handoff. Third, the mobile app was essentially a static dashboard — they couldn't initiate shipments from their phone. Luna: Those are real pain points. But the incumbent probably knew about them too, right? Why didn't they fix them? Lucas: The incumbent's product roadmap was focused on enterprise features — they weren't prioritizing midmarket workflow niceties. Mark's company was built for that exact segment. So he customized his entire demo around those three gaps — he didn't even show the rest of the platform. The prospect said later, 'It felt like you'd been using our system for years.' Luna: So the walkthrough gave him a cheat sheet. Did he end up winning the deal? Lucas: He did — and without a discount. The buyer told Mark they were ready to switch because he understood their problems better than their own vendor did. Mark's company was actually 15 percent more expensive on list price, but the buyer didn't even negotiate. They signed a three-year contract. Luna: That's impressive. But I wonder — does this work across industries? If I'm selling enterprise software to a Fortune 500 procurement team, asking for a walkthrough might get me laughed off the call. Lucas: It depends on how you frame it. In enterprise, you'd ask for a 'process demonstration' or a 'current-state workflow review.' The key is the same — you're not asking to be taught, you're asking to observe. The buyer's ego stays intact, and you get actionable intel. Luna: But what about the rep who doesn't really listen? They do the walkthrough, nod along, then deliver a generic pitch anyway. That seems like a waste of everyone's time. Lucas: That's the risk. If you ask for a walkthrough and then ignore what you see, you've actually done more harm than good. The buyer feels like you wasted their time, and you've confirmed that you're just another salesperson going through motions. Mark succeeded because he took notes, asked follow-up questions during the walkthrough, and built his entire demo around those specific gaps. Luna: So the walkthrough is only as good as the rep's ability to synthesize and act. That requires a certain discipline. Lucas: Right. And it also requires the rep to be comfortable with not being the expert in the room for twenty minutes. A lot of reps feel pressure to project authority — they want to show they already know the buyer's problems. Asking for a walkthrough is an admission that you don't know everything, and that humility actually builds trust. Luna: I read a study — I think it was from Gong — that found top-performing reps ask more discovery questions than average reps, but the gap is biggest in the first call. Top reps ask roughly 60 percent more questions in that initial conversation. Lucas: That aligns with what I've seen. The walkthrough is a structured way to ask questions — it's not just 'what keeps you up at night,' it's 'show me.' And showing reveals things buyers won't articulate in a verbal discovery call. Luna: One thing I'm curious about — how do you ask for a walkthrough without sounding like you're asking for a free consultation? If the buyer thinks you're just trying to get out of doing real work, they'll shut it down. Lucas: Mark had a specific framing that worked. He said, 'I want to make sure I respect your time — if I show you things that aren't relevant, that's on me. A quick look at how you work today will help me tailor the demo so every minute is useful to you.' That's respectful and buyer-centric. Luna: There's also the reciprocity angle — by asking for their time, you're creating a subtle obligation. The buyer invests in the process, which makes them more likely to see the demo through. Lucas: Exactly. There's a version of this where the rep even offered a small gesture — Mark's colleague once sent a twenty-five-dollar coffee gift card before the walkthrough with a note that said, 'Grab a coffee on me while we walk through your day.' The buyer actually mentioned that gesture in the final selection meeting — it made the rep stand out. Luna: That's smart. It's not about the money, it's about signaling that you value their time. And it probably makes the buyer more candid during the walkthrough because they feel like you're a partner, not a vendor. Lucas: If these conversations have moved your work forward in some small way, listener support is what keeps this show ad-free. You can find us at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo — just a simple way to say the episodes are useful. And now back to the walkthrough. Luna: The gift card approach is interesting, but I wonder if it could backfire in a procurement-heavy environment where they have strict vendor gift policies. Lucas: That's a real concern. In regulated industries or government, even a coffee card could be a compliance issue. In those cases, you skip the gift and lean harder on the value proposition — 'I want to make sure I don't waste your time.' That's usually enough. Luna: So the core principle is: ask to see, not just to hear. What about after the walkthrough — what's the next best step? Lucas: Mark sent a one-page summary within four hours of the walkthrough. He listed the three gaps he observed, confirmed his understanding, and said, 'In the demo next week, I'll show you exactly how we address each of these.' That summary served as a pre-read for the demo and made the buyer bring their decision-makers to the meeting. Luna: So the walkthrough becomes the foundation for the entire pipeline. You're not just gathering info — you're building a narrative that the buyer can get behind. Lucas: Exactly. And the beauty is, it's almost impossible for a competitor to replicate because the intel is specific to that buyer's workflow. If the incumbent tried to counter, they'd have to guess — Mark knew. Luna: Any tips for reps who want to try this but are nervous about the ask? Especially if they're early in their career and feel like they're imposing. Lucas: Start with a low-stakes prospect — maybe a small account where the relationship is more casual. Practice the framing until it feels natural. The worst that can happen is the buyer says no, and then you're no worse off than if you hadn't asked. But if they say yes, you've got a massive advantage. Luna: I like that. It's a low-risk, high-reward move. And it forces the rep to actually listen, which is never a bad thing. Lucas: Right. The best discovery questions are often the simplest — and most reps skip them because they think they already know the answer. A walkthrough is the ultimate check on that assumption. Luna: So for anyone listening — next time you're facing a tough competitor, instead of leading with your features, try asking to see how they work today. You might be surprised what you find. Lucas: And if you do try it, let us know how it goes. We'll be back tomorrow with another deal breakdown.