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Inter stumble in Champions League Final - Ep. 269 Ft. SauceGMP · The Calcio Guys

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  Speaker 1: I could start the show by seeing call me am I,
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  Speaker 1: but I can't. I'm a exit here, No I can't.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we got we got.
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  Speaker 2: The two horsemen of Champions League Finals lost now here
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  Speaker 2: on the couch of guys Johnny and Nicolas joined by
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  Speaker 2: John Marco also known as sauage MP on Twitter from
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  Speaker 2: interviews podcast. Uh, John Marco or Johnny, whichever one you
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  Speaker 2: want to go by, whichever you want.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 4: On the I learned the hard way on the second
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  Speaker 4: Johnny on on Twitter, so exactly.
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  Speaker 5: I mean everyone joining Johny as well too, So don't
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  Speaker 5: worry about it.
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  Speaker 1: You so for so to say how's it going?
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  Speaker 6: And then are you?
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  Speaker 1: Are you okay? From Saturday?
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  Speaker 4: I mean it's going good. With everything else that's not interrelated.
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  Speaker 4: When it comes to the club that I that I love,
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  Speaker 4: it's been a tough I don't know, ninety six hours whatever,
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  Speaker 4: however many hours it's been since the loss. Uh, obviously
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  Speaker 4: the most embarrassing defeat I I to be quite honest,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know why I didn't turn the game off sooner.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to suffer through that for some reason. But yeah, tough,
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  Speaker 4: tough loss and obviously I got to take it on
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  Speaker 4: the chin for for all the banter I had on Twitter,
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  Speaker 4: So it's for me.
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  Speaker 5: It just seemed like uncharacteristic for inter you know, like
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  Speaker 5: it didn't seem like, you know, like like this is what.
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  Speaker 1: What this is what they normally like, this is how
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  Speaker 1: they normally perform.
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  Speaker 5: And like one player that did stick out a bit
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  Speaker 5: to me that really obviously had a terrible start was DeMarco.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, if won half to ten, that next like
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  Speaker 5: twenty minutes, thirty minutes to about DeMarco go ahead, But uh.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yesterday, you know, Lasando had a pretty big vent
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  Speaker 4: such him and amongst you know, other things in that game.
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  Speaker 4: I've said that I think that he this cements that
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  Speaker 4: he shouldn't be a starter going forward. He has to
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  Speaker 4: earn his way back in. And if I'm you know, Spalletti,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not starting him in a must win game against
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  Speaker 4: Norway like that. There's no way I would risk any
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  Speaker 4: chance of advancement with with him playing in a back four.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean elementary school mistakes right, like just
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  Speaker 4: the way he got pulled out of position in that
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  Speaker 4: first First of all, he's so far back, it makes
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  Speaker 4: no sense why he's literally keeping guys on side for
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  Speaker 4: ten twelve yards and then to pull away from Hakimi
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  Speaker 4: the way he did, just leaving him completely a mark,
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  Speaker 4: not saying a word to your other you know, center
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  Speaker 4: backs who are nearby.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's an excusable.
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  Speaker 4: And then I mean a thing that I've always had
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  Speaker 4: a problem with him is the way that he does
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  Speaker 4: press or lack thereof. You know, he drops off his man.
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  Speaker 4: He just puts his arms behind his back and thinks
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  Speaker 4: that that's enough to defend. And I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: he's afraid that if he closes the gap there that
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  Speaker 4: he then allows the attacker to blow right past him
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  Speaker 4: because he isn't the quickest player on the pitch. But
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  Speaker 4: you cannot be giving acres of space for forwards of
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  Speaker 4: that level to be able to run into because they
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  Speaker 4: will take advantage of it and they will beat you.
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  Speaker 3: And it's unfortunate.
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  Speaker 4: I would have hoped that by now he would have
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  Speaker 4: learned from those things, but yeah, still still making those mistakes,
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  Speaker 4: and it's inexcusable at this level.
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  Speaker 7: It's crazy too, because you know de Marco and you know,
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  Speaker 7: we just recorded our team this season. Part of the
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  Speaker 7: episode tonight as well, and it just you know, I
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  Speaker 7: can say for Tao, you know, doesn't have his season
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  Speaker 7: of old and you had to drop off there. But
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  Speaker 7: for me, the de Marco another one, it's crazy. I
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  Speaker 7: know he had good moments, you know, throughout the season,
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  Speaker 7: but this business end of the season where I kind
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  Speaker 7: of I guess you could say it counted the most
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  Speaker 7: to drop off. For me, it's it's incredible. And this
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  Speaker 7: is a guy that we you know, people are saying,
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  Speaker 7: you know, best left back in the in the league,
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  Speaker 7: best left back in the world, and you know, you
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  Speaker 7: know up for those you know type type of titles.
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  Speaker 7: And for me, it's a shame because I still think
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  Speaker 7: there is something for him to give.
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  Speaker 6: But if you're making mistakes like that, and again.
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  Speaker 7: Jermarcoll want you diving deeper to the whole match, but
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  Speaker 7: because I don't think obviously was just on him the
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  Speaker 7: whole thing. I think two goals were, but well the
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  Speaker 7: second one unfortunate. The deflection, I mean, that could happen
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  Speaker 7: to anybody. You mentioned how he defended. I get that point,
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  Speaker 7: but you know, it just for.
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  Speaker 6: Me crazy to see how he kind of dropped off
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  Speaker 6: when it mattered the most.
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  Speaker 1: Inter but just to.
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  Speaker 7: To diving more into the game and you know the
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  Speaker 7: five nothing, you know, the worst defeating Champions League history,
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  Speaker 7: you know, the whole nine yards, right, it just didn't
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  Speaker 7: go well from I would say, in my personal opinion,
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  Speaker 7: from minute one to minute ninety whatever it was right,
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  Speaker 7: So it was it was a ninety minute disaster que
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  Speaker 7: for this in there.
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  Speaker 6: And just not taking shots. It's just being being you know,
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  Speaker 6: being real and what the situation was, right.
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  Speaker 7: So I guess the question to you is just for
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  Speaker 7: you what went wrong as a whole and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 7: if who's to blame or where you want to maybe
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  Speaker 7: put this blame or just what ended up going wrong
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  Speaker 7: for for this inter that not even for a minute one,
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  Speaker 7: it seemed to be going right.
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  Speaker 6: In this match.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this is something that me and Alessandro
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  Speaker 4: disagreed on last night.
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  Speaker 3: When we were going over it.
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  Speaker 4: Really okay, it's come out now that I mean now today,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how true it is. Again, I'm just
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  Speaker 4: going based off what I've read, but it appears that
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  Speaker 4: in Zagie had let the team know before the game
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  Speaker 4: that he was going to be leaving for Al Hilal.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if that's true, But based on the
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  Speaker 4: way that they played, I think that that might be true.
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  Speaker 4: You know, if if you you know, tell your team
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  Speaker 4: and listen. He may have thought he was doing the
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  Speaker 4: right thing, letting it be known, maybe before rumors were
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  Speaker 4: spreading and stuff. He might probably thought that it was
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  Speaker 4: best for it to come from him and let his
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  Speaker 4: players know. But I think a game of that magnitude,
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  Speaker 4: it's I think it's a pretty pretty risky move to
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  Speaker 4: inform your team of that, if that is in fact
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  Speaker 4: what happened. And that's what I was saying to Alessandro's
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  Speaker 4: I thought that that's the only thing that would have
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  Speaker 4: made sense to me for them to come out this
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  Speaker 4: flat and this you know, lacking of effort and heart
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  Speaker 4: whatever else you want to call it, to put in
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  Speaker 4: a performance like that where it seems like everybody I
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  Speaker 4: think only BOSTONI really can and maybe Zelevski who came
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  Speaker 4: in later, but are the only guys who could really
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  Speaker 4: walk off that pitch with their headheld high, knowing that
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  Speaker 4: they literally did everything that they could. But everyone else
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  Speaker 4: seemed to have played, you know, almost as if they
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  Speaker 4: were already defeated before the game even started. And but
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  Speaker 4: Ala said it after the game that you know, they
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  Speaker 4: didn't play with any heart, and I'm glad that he
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  Speaker 4: admitted that, but I also think that how do you
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  Speaker 4: not have any heart?
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  Speaker 3: Go?
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  Speaker 4: You know, knowing this is the Champions League Final, whether
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  Speaker 4: your manager is leaving or not, and if he told
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  Speaker 4: you or not, play for yourselves, play for your play
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  Speaker 4: for the cress, play play for whatever, like you don't
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  Speaker 4: have to play just for your manager. And it's it's
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  Speaker 4: disappointing on a lot of levels. Of course, it is embarrassing.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you never want to be a part of history.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, Nicholas, you did a good job of
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  Speaker 4: copying my tweet after that loss, so yes, we were
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  Speaker 4: part of history, just not the way I wanted it
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  Speaker 4: to be. But it's uh, yeah, it was just an
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  Speaker 4: embarrassing defeat. And to allow something like that to affect
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  Speaker 4: the game, I think, listen on the human aspect of things.
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  Speaker 4: I understand it being you know, it can weigh on
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  Speaker 4: you and definitely could change your excitement or motivation to
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  Speaker 4: some degree. But I also as the fan, it's like,
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  Speaker 4: you can't let that happen. Guys like that. That's that's
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  Speaker 4: how I feel, And you know, I just wish, uh,
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  Speaker 4: maybe he would have, you know, done what Mourinho did,
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  Speaker 4: which was, you know, kind of let it be known
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  Speaker 4: after the match, even if even if the rumors were
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  Speaker 4: coming out, right like obviously we heard about the offer,
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  Speaker 4: but we didn't know if there was anything going to
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  Speaker 4: come from it. Yeah, but you know, if you're going
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  Speaker 4: to tell your team, I think that's a crazy time
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  Speaker 4: to do it.
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  Speaker 5: I have to agree with you if it is, if
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  Speaker 5: it is like right before the big match, that's not
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  Speaker 5: something you should bring up. But that's why it's like
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  Speaker 5: I feel like he's so like I don't think he
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  Speaker 5: would be far fetched enough to do like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: like silly.
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  Speaker 1: Enough to do that.
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  Speaker 3: I would hope not.
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  Speaker 5: But I mean, like I feel like it's it's such
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  Speaker 5: a big, like you know, pulling the rug from underneath,
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  Speaker 5: the type of move to do that that, especially right
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  Speaker 5: before a game. I don't think you should be saying
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  Speaker 5: anything like that, I feel. So that's why I find
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  Speaker 5: it's a bit weird that you know, there's talks a
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  Speaker 5: bit happening, because it's really hard to believe because it
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  Speaker 5: seems very.
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  Speaker 6: Unprofessional in my personal opinion.
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  Speaker 4: I yeah, I mean, it could very well just be
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  Speaker 4: you know, just Twitter rumors like that, like they tend
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  Speaker 4: to be. Yeah, it's yeah, it's it's hard to imagine it.
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  Speaker 4: But then just again, like I said, like just seeing
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  Speaker 4: the display and and the performance that was out there,
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  Speaker 4: it kind of makes sense to me now, I mean.
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  Speaker 6: For me, just go off. Sorry, I don't want to
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  Speaker 6: cut you off, just to echo off to that.
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  Speaker 7: If if you can't show up for a Champions League
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  Speaker 7: final because your manager told you guys next season, I
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  Speaker 7: will not be coming back.
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  Speaker 6: I will not be part of this team anymore. I
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  Speaker 6: don't know.
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  Speaker 7: But shouldn't that wake you up even more? To end
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  Speaker 7: this off on a on a on a positive note
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  Speaker 7: like for me, and again we're rival fans. We're all
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  Speaker 7: rival fans of Inter tonight, right, so there's.
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  Speaker 6: There's no well you know whatever it is, right, but
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  Speaker 6: uh but just to play, you know, just to call
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  Speaker 6: it what it is like for me, that is crazy.
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  Speaker 7: And if that again big if, the big if is
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  Speaker 7: is what you said jam Marco, if that is true,
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  Speaker 7: we don't know that to be true, so we're gonna
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  Speaker 7: continue on you know.
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  Speaker 3: The if.
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  Speaker 7: But yeah, it for me, that is sounds crazy to me,
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  Speaker 7: say fatigue say, the strenuous season, because that's where my
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  Speaker 7: next kind of point to Jamaica was going to be,
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  Speaker 7: like do you think it had to have been some
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  Speaker 7: sort of fatigue them losing the scu the weighing pressure
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  Speaker 7: of from treble to zero titles at the end of
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  Speaker 7: the season, like it for me, it has to be
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  Speaker 7: more than again this big if in Zagie says that, guys,
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  Speaker 7: I'm not going to be here next season, Like do
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  Speaker 7: do you do you put any truth to that or
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  Speaker 7: what are your thoughts on not.
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  Speaker 4: To that, Jamarco, I mean, I mean hundred percent, like
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  Speaker 4: it's it. I think that we're getting at a hand
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  Speaker 4: with the amount of games that these players play. If
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  Speaker 4: you think if you think back like to when we
• 10:40
  Speaker 4: were COVID season, I mean, yeah, COVID season, but then
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  Speaker 4: even I'm gonna talk about even further back like two
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  Speaker 4: thousand and six, two thousand and seven, Oh you know,
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  Speaker 4: I was, I was looking it over the most games
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  Speaker 4: they played were forty two? Were I mean, I'm sorry
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  Speaker 4: looking at in the players. Was the most I think
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  Speaker 4: I saw then was forty two. Now you got Butella
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  Speaker 4: playing fifteen, Like that's that's an insane amount of games.
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  Speaker 3: To play.
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  Speaker 4: And that's not even including the games that he's probably
• 11:05
  Speaker 4: gonna play now for the qualifiers and if he has
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  Speaker 4: to go to the Club World Cup, which I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I know you said we're gonna probably talk
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  Speaker 4: about that too, but I hope a lot of these
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  Speaker 4: like key players don't don't come for that.
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  Speaker 3: I really do.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's you need to be able to give
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  Speaker 4: these guys a proper rest if you want to be
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  Speaker 4: competing for anything next season. And obviously now with the
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: uncertainty of who's going to be the manager in there,
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  Speaker 4: I'm worried are we gonna be able to compete for
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  Speaker 4: top four, let alone like actually trophies, you know, so
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  Speaker 4: if you don't give these guys a proper you know,
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  Speaker 4: summer to be able to refresh and recharge when you know,
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  Speaker 4: all these guys have played, whether it's European Championships, World Cup,
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  Speaker 4: Cup Americas and stuff like that. Like it's now been
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  Speaker 4: four straight seasons though that they're saying that, But Ella's
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  Speaker 4: gonna play over fifty eight games, that's insanity, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Like and he looks exhausted, he really does, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I mean banter aside with the hair like he just
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  Speaker 4: looks like an old man now, like just he could barely.
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  Speaker 3: That's the four kids, that's it could be.
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  Speaker 4: The four kids for sure, but then only being what
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  Speaker 4: twenty seven you know has four kids.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I'm sure four kids.
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  Speaker 6: Folder than him to I think, good for him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he.
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  Speaker 6: Pulled he pulled the milf at like twenty three.
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  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, the guy knows what he's doing, like.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, out of his mind.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah he's uh, he's you know, he needs he needs
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  Speaker 4: a chance to recharge like he in my opinion, and
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  Speaker 4: people might disagree, you know, j ATISTI I think he's
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  Speaker 4: the most important player on the team.
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  Speaker 3: We go, yeah, like.
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  Speaker 4: If he if he's he is and if if he's
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  Speaker 4: not playing at his best, I don't think the rest
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  Speaker 4: of the team is able to play to their best unfortunately.
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  Speaker 4: And I mean you saw the second half of the season.
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  Speaker 4: The guy looked exhausted, and I kept making an excuse like,
• 12:58
  Speaker 4: oh man, he just needs a day off, he needs
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  Speaker 4: a we didn't give it to him. And then you know,
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  Speaker 4: look at look at what he does in the final.
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  Speaker 4: I think he plays probably his worst game in intercolors.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean I would definitely say that the
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  Speaker 4: length of the season. You know, losing the Cope semi final,
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  Speaker 4: you know, tie to to me in that fashion, that's
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  Speaker 4: got to be defeated. Forget about the tie itself, the
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  Speaker 4: mental aspect of being beaten by a team that listen,
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  Speaker 4: no offense to to Milan. It's they weren't inferior team
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  Speaker 4: last year, but when they played in there, they were unbeatable.
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  Speaker 4: They really they it was like a different switch came
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  Speaker 4: on and every player in that that locker room. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you could have had me coaching Milan and they would
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  Speaker 4: have been, you know, able to beat into with the
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  Speaker 4: way that they came out and the mentality that they showed.
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  Speaker 4: And that's got to be disheartening losing the the way
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  Speaker 4: that they did, you know. I mean, listen, we can
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  Speaker 4: we can point fingers at this referee decision, that referee
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  Speaker 4: decision whatever.
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  Speaker 3: At the end of the day, you have to win
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  Speaker 3: the games on the pitch.
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  Speaker 4: You can't if you leave it in the hands of
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  Speaker 4: a refere It's never gonna go the way that you want.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care what team you support.
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  Speaker 4: That that if you're banking on that, it's it's not
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  Speaker 4: it's not gonna play out the way you like. The
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: draw against Latzio unfortunate, you know, I mean, but listen,
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  Speaker 4: Napoly also had to do their part right to to
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  Speaker 4: to win the games that they had and and they
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  Speaker 4: just happened to get one more point than we did.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, it's uh, hats off to them another.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I'm not gonna be like like Nima and
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  Speaker 4: say that you know, this is kunt his masterpiece, but
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  Speaker 4: he did do an incredible job with with what he had.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, you know, it's nice to have money to
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: be able to spend in the transfer market. I wish
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  Speaker 4: that we could experience that at.
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  Speaker 3: Inter one day. You know, that'd be that'd be lovely.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, you you you lose two things like
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: that when you know, obviously the talk is travel, travel treble.
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  Speaker 4: Now all you have is the Champions League, I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure pressure got to them a little
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  Speaker 4: bit in some way, but there, like you said, there
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  Speaker 4: is no excuse.
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  Speaker 3: You you have to.
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  Speaker 4: Show up and and and play for you know, your
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: your teammates, your your colors, the fans, whatever you want
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  Speaker 4: to call it. Because if you're only relying on a
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: manager to motivate you. That's that's that's kind of crazy.
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  Speaker 6: It might have been the wrong business.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's like like that's what I like to like
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: talk about, like like, well, back just to quickly just
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: comment on the Napoly thing. I think it's more like
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  Speaker 5: the fact that it was like Napoli got to the position
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  Speaker 5: of third because he used to buy low, sell high,
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: buy low, sell high, and they had to build up
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: from the ground up. There was just this monopoly of
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: the day does not have the same valuing power like sorry,
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: the Napoly of like twenty years ago, fifteen years ago,
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: ten years ago, it does not have the same buying
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: power as the Napoly of today.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: So it's just.
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: Also the fact that it's like, look, if you look
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: out throughout history and mean Inter had those periods where they're
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: just able to buy anybody that they want, and you know,
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: just I guess it just ebbs and flows, and especially
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: being one of the Big three, it's going to flow
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: back into Inter's favor eventually one day in terms of
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: being able to have that purchasing power. But one thing
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: I think he touched upon, and I think it might
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: be the main point of this, and this is not
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: me trying to kick a man when he's down and stuff.
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: But I think Inter had that lack of a killer instinct.
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: I think this Inter squad as good as it was,
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: like it it just it just seemed like that this
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: year there was just no killer instinct. Nobody gave a fuck,
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: Like in terms, I'm not saying like the players are
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: not like, oh whatever, you know, it just when when
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: it came to crunch time, it just didn't seem like
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: anybody was capable of, you know what, fuck you guys,
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: let's tie up the laces, let's let's let's tighten the pants,
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: you know, and let's.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Go for it. You know.
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: And it's easy to say when you're not when you're
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: looking from the outside in because you know it's like
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: you but but you just pinpointed so many key aspects
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: and key moments and like, you know, you're losing the
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: Computali semifinal, you lose this cadeto on the last day,
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: even though like you guys are playing in different competitions.
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: That performance in the Champions League final, it was just
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: for me that was uncharacteristic of Inter, that that I
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: even like this, like I know, like obviously the rival
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: fans are gonna have a field day with it.
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: But I myself, as like a neutral opposing fan.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Like I actually wanted Inter to win.
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: I didn't want PSG because I don't want about it
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: Chully to be rewarded for leaving the middle of the season,
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: but especially in a championship season, not he was in
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: tenth place again or eighth place whatever the fuck, Like okay,
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: I understand, but but anyways, I didn't want to be
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: rewarded for that. But also the fact I like, like Enter.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: Is one of the best defensive minded teams.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: You know, their system has been great a couple of
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: years ago, and they played City in the finals. You know,
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: they helped a very offensively strong City and this was
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: how I like, the destroying epl type of City to
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: a one zero game and no one goal took a
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: deflection off a hip to go in. You know what
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like it, it just seems like they lost
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: that killer instinct.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think they were capable of doing that.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: No, that's that's a great shout for honestly, Like that's yeah.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: I mean we've said that on the podcast throughout the
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: season last season, you know when we clinched it in April.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: We didn't matter who we were going up against.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: We went out to win every game and we wanted
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: to be ruthless in front of goal. We would score
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: and then even if we were, you know, tied, we
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: would get all these late winners, you know, because there
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: was like a never say die attitude last season. I
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: don't know where that went this year. You know, on paper,
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: a lot of US fans at least thought that, you know,
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: by adding a guy like Zelenski, adding a guy like
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: that Ami, those would be upgrades. And what we had
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: last season both those guys really, I mean Zelenski was
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: more so injured than really performances when he did play.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: I had zero problems with him, but that Emi was
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: a colossal flop. And when you have, you know, a
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: lack of depth. And I'm again not trying to make
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: excuses for for this team and their performances, but yeah,
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: when tam And or Latado went down and you had
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: to bring in Natovich or Taemi, none of them were
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: able to play at the same level that those other
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: players you know we're playing at. When you know, Hakkan
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: went down for a little bit in Aslani had to
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: step in. You know, one of the biggest myths in
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: my opinion, was the depth that int have And if
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: you look at the substitutions that in Zagi made in
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: the final, it was all defensive. He had no faith
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: in the forward depth to be able to bring them
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: on to try.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: To get something back.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: And I mean, Frati's not happy, you know, with not
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: being brought on, but in my opinion, like, you're great
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: at scoring goals, but in the build up to get
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: those goals.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: And chasing the game, you're useless.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: Like that's my biggest knock on Fratsi's that he just
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: not able to do anything else except getting the box
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: and score timely goals. If we need you to help
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: drive play forward, you're just not gonna be able to
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: do that. He played a game this season eighty two minutes.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: He attempted six passes all game. What midfielder do you
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: know only attempts six passes in eighty plus minutes, Like
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: that's that's unheard of and he only completed three of them.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: So it's it's, you know, you're just not gonna be
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: able to help us out like that, and it's unfortunate
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: you know that these uh we had to lean on
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: the same really starting eleven and maybe twelve if you
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: want to include b Sek who would rotate in for
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Bavard and vice versa. Actually, in no disrespect to Cardos,
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: I got him too, So maybe thirteen players that you're
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: able to rely on. But after that, it's you know,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: it was it was kind of tough to to be
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: able to to have the same impact that we had
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: last season, and I think fatigue along with health that
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: last year we were very healthy and very lucky that,
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: you know, our core was able to to play the
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: entire season. Really this year, injuries kind of took its
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: toll and and kind of caught up, and you could
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: see that we are the oldest squad in not only Set, yeah,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: but you know, we were the oldest team in the
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Champions League as well, and I think age kind of
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: kind of showed that that that it's catching up to
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: a lot of these players.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Back to the game itself, obviously.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Not a good sorry, right, twelve minute Hakimi former interplayer
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: doesn't celebrate.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Well, First I had I had two questions. So first,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: what did you think.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Of the exaggeration exaggerated no celebration, celebration because for me.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I think like like that it's a bit performative, right,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: It's like, okay, you don't want to celebrate, but even
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: just put in your hands up.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: It's a celebration, dude. It's a Champions League final. Celebrate.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: You played for insert for one season four years ago. Celebrate.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's your thoughts.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I think he was just being respectful.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: I think he knows that he left in a a
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: in a good, good terms, like the fans still love him.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: He's always said he wished that he would have been
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: able to stay. We just he just understood that financially
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: he couldn't or we couldn't keep him. Really, yeah, I
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: mean I didn't think anything of it, to be honest,
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: like I kind of just appreciate it.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: But yeah, like I get what you're saying that. Yeah,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: it was kind of like performative, you know, like, hey,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: hey guys, look I'm showing you respect.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Like, let me, you know, can I celebrate a little bit?
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Orre gonna get mad if I do?
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: So, I get I get where you're coming from in
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: that aspect, but I don't know, didn't didn't didn't think
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: anything of it as soon as I saw him kind
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: of start wandering into the box, my immediate thought was
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: it would be him that's gonna score. And he did
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: get like probably the easiest happen offs happens, uh, with
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: a perfect pass that he was given by Duet.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean it is, it is what it is.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: I just wish it wasn't it wasn't him, I guess, uh, yeah.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Fair enough. Yeah, maybe I'm just overthinking it.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: But yeah, what what I wanted to ask you, what
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: point did you realize the games that the games out
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: of hand, the game is done or what a what
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: point do you think in to realize that?
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: I think A two nothing.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: I think once they got that second one in that manner,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: you know, I know Badela was trying to shield the
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: ball and keep it from you know, to be able
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: to get a corner there once. I don't even remember
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: who it was now was able. I think it was
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Neudo Mendez who who came around him though and kind
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: of kicked it forward and was able to to start
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: the counter. And I saw that there was that much
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: space for them to be able to run into. I
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: kind of said, oh man, they've they've they've got us
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: like just in shambles right now, we're unable to be
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: stay organized in any way, shape or form. And listen,
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: hats off to Luis Endque. Like in my opinion, and
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: it's not because of this game, but I always thought
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: that he was a better coach than Pep Guardiola. I
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: thought that what he was able to do with with Barcelona,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: with the Spanish national team, now what we're seeing obviously
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: with PSG. The guy can take players and turn him
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: into like just world beaters, like he's just a phenomenal coach.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: And what he was able to do with that forward line,
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: which on paper people may say, oh, the Barcelona team,
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: you know, has better forwards, and like he would think like, oh,
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: we should be able to handle PSG because we were
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: able to to kind of keep Barcelona in check. But
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: the way that these three Cavada then Belele Duet and
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: even Barcola when he's on the pitch as well, the
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: way that they're able to to interchange and just play
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: off one another incredible. And he was able to lure
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: a Chad to be out of position multiple times to
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: then be able to give space in the middle and
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: stuff like just listen, an incredible game plan to take
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: on obviously he dead, and I just think that once
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: they got that second one, they were able to cruise
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: the rest of the way. And you saw the second
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: half of that how that turned out for them. And
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: I think maybe like when we didn't score at the
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: end of the first half, when Dulam had that corner
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: that just went a little wide, I think that was
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: kind of like, yeah, if we're not getting it here,
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: we're not gonna be able to get it at all.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Unfortunately.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: Now, what do you think intergoes from here? Like we
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: were talking about it before, where you know now that
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: you know in Zaggie's on his way out to Ali
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: Hallal twenty five million euros a year, Yeah, I know,
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: I know. Yeah, Like you know, he's not he's not.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: It's just like you think about it and it's like, wow,
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: I leg it, he just signed for five million per
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: year at Milan and then it's like Saudi Arabia, it's like, yeah,
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: fuck it, year's twenty five mili. Why just cuz that's
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: that's our fuck you money type of thing.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: So there's that.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: So now, obviously rumors of Czech faberg Guy's probably be
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: the next one up there's rumors of that, they're looking
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: interested in that.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: First of all, realistically, who do you think is the
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: next one up?
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: Or who would you would deal with or in your opinion,
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: who would be better to be the next one up
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: for inter going forward?
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Because now there's only way, there's no way to go
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: look forward, you know.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean to me, it's Fabergas is the only
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: viable option in my opinion. I mean, I know there's
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: rumors of Vida and in Kivu. I don't think either
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: one of them are ready to take this move to
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: ting ten. Especially I'm not a fan of Patrick Vida.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: I think he did a decent job with Genowa last season.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, but if you look at it, eight wins,
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: nine draws, nine losses, it's not really like exciting me.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: And then if you go look at his numbers though
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: with nice with I mean NYCFC, you could throw out
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: as well. And I forgot the other club that he
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: was that it might have been, you know, I'm not
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: even a guest, but not good numbers. He's been known
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: to clash with like big stars, so I don't think
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: that he would be able to come into etend and
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: do a job Kivu, although he has the experience having
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: been at intert as a player, having been the Puttima
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: Beta manager there and now you know what he did
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: with Partma, which one thing I do like about him
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: is that he is able to make tactical changes on
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: the fly and the team responds to that and are
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: able to implement those things. Like if you look even
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: the I mean a turning point in the school that
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: THO season for this year was the game against Aint
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: there we were up two nail on them. He makes
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: a few changes at halftime, stubs in a few players.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: He brings him better in Abe, who I mean was
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: their best player, but he was trying to, you know,
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: preserve him from he was just coming back from an injury.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Unlocks the game to to draw like unbelievable. So there
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: is potential there. I just don't want him to take
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: the jump yet because I don't want him to fail
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: and then never be able to afforded another opportunity down
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: the line. So Fabricases is the one that I would
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: want more than anyone available. Obviously we missed a boat
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: on names like a leegy or or even maybe trying
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: to sway Taliano to leave Bologna or you know, I
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: know Palladino's out there.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: I don't think that that's a name that they've even
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: been interested in. I do like him, but.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: You know, Alessandro said at best last night that he
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: hasn't gone through his Italiano phase, which by by that
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: he means where he struggles at you know, a Fiorentina
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: for a little bit and then it clicks, you know,
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: figuring out how to to you know, be able to
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: be as attacking as they are, but also now implement
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: the defensive side of things where you're not just you know,
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: playing crazy suicide ball, you know, upping down the pitch
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: trying to to score. And you know a name that
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: we we've brought up to that could be a shout
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: would be Mancini. You know, if if you're looking for
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: someone to bring stability, I think that he would be good.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: He obviously has good relationships with the players that were
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: on the national team when they won the Euros. So
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: you know, that's that's a that's a name that would
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: be interesting. Haven't seen it be rumored. So with that,
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: you know, I think Fabrigas is the only one. The
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: only the only thing that's confusing is the rumors that
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: you know, Como won't let him out, but he wants
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: to leave, but he also likes the project, Like I
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: don't know what's going to happen, you know, de Mancio
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: saying one thing, Pla saying another thing. You know, it's
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: the typical you know, Medicato rumors. But I I'm rooting
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: for him. If not, I think vo I would prefer
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: over over Vieta.
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: Personally, I find like all of those guys that we
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: met were mentioning here, like I don't know if they're
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: even faber guys, Like I love it, love what he's done.
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: Obviously we spend timeless times on the show, and you
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: know he's just been incredible. But again him too, like
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: is he actually ready for that next step? Like Como's
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: piazza and Inter's piazza or that shirt, they're way different.
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: Is he really ready?
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: Like we saw the Diago Mota disaster that happened when
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: he finally made that premature jump, right, I would hope
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: not for a guy expect faber Gas, just because he's
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: brought so much joy to a team like Como in
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: just our league in general. But you know, I don't
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: know Palladino, I like to, Like you said, there's even
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: that FARIOI right that I left what is.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: So is another interesting name that you know hasn't touched
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: Setia yet, So I would like to see if he
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: comes around. But if anything, man Chini I think might
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: be the most more stable choice, right, like just the
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: experience that the know how he's been there before, right,
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: he's coached in there before, and.
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: Ye just has that that that knack of of you know,
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: building up the room and getting some decent results and
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: going forward.
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: Again, it's they're going to the club World Club.
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: So I don't know, again, like how important and how
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: much emphasis are gonna put on this? Personally, I don't
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: think it's going to be very high or very much
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: in my personal opinion.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: But I would agree.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: You know, you have to find a caretaker coach or
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: some sort of mader to lead this fucking team in
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: what seven days?
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: What is it?
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: The ten I think they're flying out the first game. Well,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: the tournament starts in eleven days, but I think they
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: start USA training on the ninth, so yeah, like five
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: six days or potentially so, and then you.
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: Have to get accustomed to this whole team. The whole
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: locker room, the whole system built it. Like this is
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: like sounds impossible, This is mission impossible.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And what I was going to ask is do
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: you think they'll get a new coach by then or
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: they're just gonna find some caretaker.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: So I mean they say that a deal will be
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: in place by Friday for somebody.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know how how true that is. They're gonna
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: hire you Wednesday, Wednesday night.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: So I'll take it. I'll take I'll take it. I'm
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: actually working on my coaching license, so let's let's go.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: Let's get me out there. But it's yeah, I'm nervous.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: I'm actually wondering do I even want to go to
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: these games? Like honestly, like is it going to be
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: worth it for me? Is it just going to be
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: an embarrassment where we just get smoked by Montterday, who
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: you know, have really nothing to lose, right, they could
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: throw everything at us, And you know, are we just
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: gonna play all the Premia MEDIQ kids and a couple
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: of players that we have sent out on loan in
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: this But yeah, if it's a caretaker manager, like what
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: do you do? Do you just bring up your Premia
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: meta manager to have him run it for the meantime, Like, yeah,
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, it's yeah, it's gonna be
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: an interesting, interesting competition here, and I'm nervous at what
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: my experience is going to be like when I go
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: to the game.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they play.
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: Monterey June seventeenth, Yeah, at the Rosebull Stadium, O Rahwah
• 31:39
  Speaker 8: Red Diamonds to Leuwinfield in Seattle Dune twenty first, and
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: River Plate June twenty fifth, again in Seattle. I mean,
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: you probably don't know too much about their opponents here.
• 31:54
  Speaker 8: You I'm sure you heard about Monterey and I mean
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: River Plates fourteen, But this first time I'm here Ring of.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Arah Red Diamonds.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Can you say it's there's another team from South Africa
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: called mamlow d Sundowns. Who's coming up with your name?
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: You know, like they better play every game at sundown If.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Their jersey's are all like an orange e red type.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Of like a little like a fading sunset, that'd be.
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: Actually know what, let's look it up.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: What there's there's a there's a there's a team from
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: South Korea called ool Sign.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Hdre d ol Sign HD. Like you get to watch
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: them in HD, like just coming up with these team names,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: this this this turn.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I was telling Je Mark, I was telling you know,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: the guys before it's it's either gonna be the best
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: tournament ever everyone loves it, or it's gonna be an
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: absolute flop, you know, no one between.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to expect. I don't know what
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: to expect as a you a fan.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Obviously, I'm looking forward to it, right, you know, at
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, there's a trophy on the line.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: It's it's a new to in a minute, it's here.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: North America's two million dollars for every win you get.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, so there's money involved to get wins.
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: And you know, especially you look at it from you
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: based point of view, You've missed out on all these
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: champions leagues, you know, even for Inter Hey, imagine they
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: finished the season as Club World Cup champions, you know,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: not happening. No, But I think realistically, if I'm a
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: betting man, I would bet on one of the South
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: American teams. This is really important for those teams. They
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: and the money would be huge for them, money would
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: be huge. But then even Braggy out Braggy rights, you know,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: for Brazilian teams, they they consider a Club World Cup
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: as bigger than the Cunning Bowl, Uh, the Libertad sorry yeah,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: whereas European team Champions League is the biggest thing, right,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: So for the South American teams, winning the Club World
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Cup is the biggest thing. So I think one of them,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: one of the six, and it's good teams going. They
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: we got plumb, there's Palmatos, but a Fogo, Flamengo, River Plate,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Boca Junior, and I'm missing one one of the teams
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: from Brazil, Flamingo.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: So big story clubs from US, so that's huge.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there you go.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: So there you know.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: There's some decent players in these leagues.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: So we'll see if not, if it's not one of them,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be just one of those big
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: one of the big European names, whether it's man City
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: or Real, uh, inter MIAMIFC will probably have the refs
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: on their side.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: We'll see. I don't know what they think.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Oh gosh, yeah, don't even get me started. It's uh,
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: I think it's a joke that they got included because
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: they haven't won anything, and they only get in because
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: MESSI is a part of the team, so I don't
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: know the politics and the optics of that is not
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: the best, but whatever.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: I just looked up the jerseys, by the way, for
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: man alois disappointing, right.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like you're like brazil colors.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: It's so it's yellow, green, and then.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Blue, and I'm like, and their nicknames is the brazil
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: I'm looking it up right now. Their nickname is the Brazilians.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: So very disappointing.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: You were so close, We're on the verge of greatness.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: We were. The crest is pretty cool too. It's like
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: a hand that's got like an L. I mean, could
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: have been, could have been something special, but big let logo.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: The logo looks like some political logo.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: I thought it was. I was taking it as an L.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: All I know is that they have the sponsor of.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: As we're talking now.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: We're talking.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: The Sky limits my team to in the Club World Cup.
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: This is made?
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Who made this Thing's not for real?
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: This is real.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: I don't hate get on get on board with the sundowns,
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: get up with.
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: The downs, Let's go the limit. What is this a
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: Nike campaign? What then is this thing?
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they had that written in my high
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: school walls on the course.
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: The sky is the limit like God blessed.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: But I'm going to get a data to change the
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: slogan the sky is the limit.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: There we go, just the sky is the limit.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: This is like me like like you wild couple of Sikes,
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: like un ironically supporting Ghana.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: Another their slogan is Buffana but style, and it means
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: the stylish guys.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm digging that, you know what. I'm there. That's it.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: I'm ready where the Cachu guys are the stylish guys.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: The stylish guys there starting a podcast in South Africa.
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: Holy fuck, let's get serious.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: This is this is.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: If you wanted to continue to talk about the Club
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: World Cup. I was, guys, do you know inter like
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: what with players that bringing is in a full roster?
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: Like the only person I know that is going is
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: because they announced it is Button Bony. I don't know
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: who else is going for this team. I will be
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: just as surprised, you know, when they when they touched
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: down in l A, you know, as as probably anyone
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: else because they haven't said anything. I'm I'm really hoping
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: though that none of not none, but like most of
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: the first team players are not going to be coming
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: out for this.
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: No, they they can't.
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: Like we're talking about they couldn't. They couldn't wake up
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: for a Champions League final. You think they're gonna wake
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: up for a fucking Club World Cup? Guys like that
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: can't be. In my opinion, that can't be.
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: So you know what, and we're talking about fatigue and
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: they need rest and there's you know, national team games.
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry, and again tell the internet that are probably
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: going to these games that want the.
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: Big players to be there. You know, you get that experience,
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: you know.
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: Those signatures, those pictures or even if you haven't seen
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: it whatever, Like I wouldn't. I wouldn't hold my breath personally.
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, in my personal opinion, Like, but again we'll
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: have to see that.
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: It remains to be seen.
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: John Marco will be reporting there.
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: On the seventeenth, and you know we had a better, better,
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: better picture by then. But going back to the into
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: John Marco, just to get back into a little bit
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: more seriousness instead of this mamlodes guy's the limit stuff. Uh,
• 38:05
  Speaker 7: would you because again I have a two part question,
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: actually a or one was this at the end of
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: at the end of how did you saw this season end?
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: Was this season of failure for you? And two uh,
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: regarding like forget that obviously it ended up going down
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: and Zagi is no longer the coach, but would you have.
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: Still continued within Zagie going forward?
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: What was your expectations for the future and and just
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: kind of what was your idea of how next season
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: would look like no matter how the results of this
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: season kind of went.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean this season was one hundred percent
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: of failure. Like it's good out a question, zero trophies.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: You you went far in I mean down to the
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: last day on the scudetto down to the semi finals
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: and the company losing in the finals in the UCL
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: that's all great and yeah, it's feel good and rah
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: rah we're we're excited.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: We were competing, but to.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: Not come away with anything, and I mean even losing
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: the super cop by the way you did, you had
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: a two goal lead and you you blow that as well, Like,
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, hats off to you guys for fighting back.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: I thought that game was was kind of over. Really,
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, we were up to we're gonna
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: break I said, we're gonna break them now, and you
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: know we're never We were never able to, unfortunately, but
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: it's uh, it is a massive disappointment. What I have
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: continued with Zagie seeing what's available now, I would have
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: said yes, in the moment, I did not want to.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: I think like the cycle kind of ran its course.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: I think that you know, listen, you you did bring
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: six trophies in the four years that you were there,
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: which is fantastic. You know, I'm happy, but I also
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: said that, well, three of those trophies were were super
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: copas you know, so it's like you only won one
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: school edo title. You should have won three. To be honest,
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: like you, you choked away two of them. And what
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: I didn't think I wanted to do another year of
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: a back three because obviously you could see the age
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: in the back line and I wanted something that there
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: would be a little bit more flexibility where you're able
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: to interchange between four and a three and be able
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: to be successful. You know, I mean, listen, hats off
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: to Quante. He's he has learned to to adapt and
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: not be so rigid in his style, like he will
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: cater it based on his opponent. And Zagie was a
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: little bit more stubborn in some ways. Now listen, it
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: worked a lot of times more often than not, really,
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: and I appreciate everything he did, but I do think that,
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: you know, his time kind of ran up. But now,
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: looking at what's available, it's like, well, maybe in Zagie
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: was the best thing that we could have had. Really, Like,
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: you know, if if the options are Faba gas in Kivu,
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: well then yeah, I would want to continue with Anxigi
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: then you know, Like, but obviously he's he's gone now
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: twenty five million euros. That's that's a nice chunk of change.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: Your family's never gonna have to worry about money again.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: And uh, listen, I wish him the best of luck.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: I just hope he never comes back to said. Yeah,
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: that's all interesting.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Uh, guys, did you have any other questions about the
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Champions League Final itself?
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Because I have one. I have one more, but it's
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: kind of like a wrap up question.
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: I have another question, but just not I don't know
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: if it's really considered my Champions League.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: Row eight in but.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: If you you could now go, okay, question this is
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: a fun one.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Uh this I'm gonna get myself involved here too, because
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: what's worse now you aase seven Champions League finals lost
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: or losing once in the Champions League five nothing?
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Time for a debate.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say losing biggest loss in Champions League history,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: biggest margin of lost. It has to be worse than
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: seven Champions Leagues finals lost. Obviously that's biased for me,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: but I want to hear everyone's opinion. I think objectively,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: seven Champions League finals loss is actually worse, especially when
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: you want to do them.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: But I think going to in seven in Champions League
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: finals is worse, and especially like I mean, obviously you
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: haven't seen many of those losses yourself. I've now seen
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: three Champions League finals and lost two. So yeah, it's
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: it's a tough thing to say.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: I did. Actually, Agreen, I do have a question for you,
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: and this is kind of a long the same thing.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: Would you rather have lost a game after you were
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: up three nil in the Champions League final or just
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: lost five nothing?
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: No, Bro, Eastumbul was fucking tough man. Oh five that's uh,
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: that's that's tough. That uh you know that that collapse
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: of three nil? Uh, that's things fans until today, right,
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: twenty years later, so.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: I said I would rather lose five nothing than be
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: up three zero thinking I'm gonna win then yeah, and
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: then lose it.
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: Uh yeah for me, that's tough, man, Like that's I
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: don't think would rather be Would I rather do we for?
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: Or would I rather just get fucking shollocked by nothing
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: one shot and that's it? Uh yeah, probably that I
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: probably would be that. Yeah, even though like granted both.
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: Your your your you're remembered in history, like for both occasions,
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: like don't get me wrong, Uh, you know the five
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: nil in this Champions League era, just in the history
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: of the Champions League, you know, you're you're gonna be
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: up there forever until that gets broken again. If that
• 43:32
  Speaker 7: ever gets broken again, we'll see. Uh maybe that three
• 43:36
  Speaker 7: nail collapse can maybe slip under the rugs sometimes, but no,
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: I think, uh just just uh yeah, I don't know.
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: I would unfortunately probably get just take the shillaki in
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: the five nil, drop drop drop the bomb.
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: Uh kill me now, it's just you know, get it
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: over with.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't think my heart is gonna
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: take you. Like if we were up three nothing on
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: PSG and then they came back and.
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: Beat, especially with the team like we're talking about the
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: oh five Meal. I respect to this twenty twenty five inter.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Team, but that team is unbelievable.
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I guess the cherry on top was
• 44:13
  Speaker 7: winning it two years later. Uh you know that that
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: that kind of reduces some of that pain in all seven?
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Who did you? Who did you guys be just you know,
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: help help.
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: I think it started with l and ended in pool.
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: I don't know it was an organ in a pool,
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: like I don't know if you had that together, right, So?
• 44:31
  Speaker 7: Uh No, that I think was that was was obviously
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: the big pick me up. That was like the right
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: of of of that of that era there. But for
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: you guys, it's it's tough because you went, you were
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: there two years ago, you came back again, and I
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: don't think again, I don't know if many people would
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: have expected that to happen, Like, I don't know if
• 44:53
  Speaker 7: you would have expected I did.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: I didn't right really like I I honestly I said
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: to A I'd be fine if we went out in
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: the round of sixteen, and this is before obviously we
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: got here. But I was like, but if it means
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: we win this gudeto, I'm okay, like bowing out of
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: this competition to focus on the league.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: Obviously, when we got to this situation, the you know,
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: being able to come back against Barcelona the way we did,
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: like I was like, yeah, let's go for it. Of
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: course I want to win the Champions League, like of course.
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: But the thing that, you know, the thing that things
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: too is obviously now in this day and age with
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: social media. You know, like I remember watching the game
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: the mean on uh game in O five and yeah,
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: thinking like, wow, that sucks.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: But then that's it.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: You know, I didn't have to worry like it left
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: it there and we went you know, me and my
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: friends went on with our days and whatnot. Like you
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: didn't have to see all that this one obviously because
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: of the team and because of it's my team and
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: we lost five zil and everyone hates seing that on
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: on culture Twitter.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: You know, it's uh.
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: There, it's kind of like you got to see it.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to see it day in and day out.
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: The memes, and some of them are pretty funny. I mean, listen,
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: I poked fun at us with with one of my
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: own uh little meme videos with uh Shane Gillis. But yeah,
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: it's it does leave a nasty taste in my mouth
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: for sure.
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, there's there's no there's no winning. There's no winning
• 46:14
  Speaker 7: situation in any of these these alternatives.
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: Back to you have to make the finals.
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: You have to make the finals to win or lose them, right,
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: So yeah, how many teams can even get to that point?
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah? But like, would you rather get second place or
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: just go out earlier? Personally, I would rather go out earlier, Like.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know, Yeah, I don't I don't need the heartbreak. Man.
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: Would you rather make it to the finals every year
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: and lose every year?
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: Or would you rather like nobody's if you if you're
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: if you're gonna be realistic, nobody's a buffalo bills here.
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: Four, four and four.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: If you're gonna lose, If you're gonna lose as heartbreaking
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: You're gonna say this because you used to fucking go
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: in the finals and losing.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's it, you know, so I gotta hear you.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: I'd rather lose in the final and then in the
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: round of sixty. If you know you're gonna lose, it's.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Still is fun. You don't watch your team to get
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: to the final.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: No, but at the end of the day, like as
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: much as you know youves lost in recent finals, all
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: you need is won to see the lifetime. Unfortunately, I
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: wasn't born yet when they last won.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: So they'll win. They win one, it'll make up for
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: the losses.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: And no, obviously three I was too young, but fifteen
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: to seventeen. But yeah, I don't know, Johnny, you're gonna say.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Something DRAMATICA dont worry about it.
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: I've seen the Bruins lose two out of the three
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: Stanley Cup finals that they played in my lifetime, so I.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: Mean, at least at least your team's gotten there, you know,
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: I mean at least your team's got the Champions League finals.
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: So the only time, the only time Maroma has ever
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: been to one.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: I wasn't even alive for yet.
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: And the team that starts with ellen Ens and Pool
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: beat them in penalties, so let's let's let's suck that team.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: I'll never see the Islanders at a Stanley Cup, so
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: I guess. I guess it's a trade off.
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: Right, Never say that, ever, at least at least the
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: parody in the in the world of hockey kind of
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: helps when you have the salary cap to kind of
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: work versus soccer, where it's like the team with the
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: biggest wallet more or less can can can do as
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: much damage as they feel like, you know, it's there's
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: like you just gonna have to get smart management. But
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: anyways that but let's not this is not the This
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: is not the hockey guys.
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: This is the couture guys.
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: I don't know exactly tacky.
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: Another another thing I wanted to kind of touch upon
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: Joe marco Is. I saw uh NeiMa and Carlos.
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: Clip towing football podcast clip of keeper sell inter addition,
• 48:32
  Speaker 6: I kind of stumbled upon it on Twitter there, but
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: I don't want to go. I don't want to rehash
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: what they did and bring it onto our show. And
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: I'm giving them credit because I heard I saw it
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: from there, But just in general, we kind of spoke about,
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: you know, where do we go or sort where do
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: we go? Where does intergal next? In terms of the
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: manager and and kind of our thoughts and your thoughts
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: and I can I always kind of think similarly about
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: like the players and like what is I And there's
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: so many uncertainties except especially with this you know, bombshell
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: news of Inzagi even and again I don't think many
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: people might have thought it would have happen right now,
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: so soon, right? But who who are your pieces that.
• 49:14
  Speaker 7: You would continue to build with, and who is who
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: is like should be out the door? And who can
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: we move on from? Or sorry, who can inter move
• 49:22
  Speaker 7: on from?
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: You know going forward you don't have to go every position,
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: and I know you did kind of every player, but.
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: Just your thoughts and who can we again I keep
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: on saying, we don't know why we're we've been like you.
• 49:37
  Speaker 7: You're joining over No, I'd rather I rather jump off
• 49:42
  Speaker 7: the bridge and then then go for fort or for
• 49:45
  Speaker 7: that matter.
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: But who does inter go forward with in terms of
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: the next cycle, if you will, and who should depart
• 49:54
  Speaker 6: and kind of cut ties with in your opinion?
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I think you have to keep the
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: or of Bastoni and Lataro. I think that goes without
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: saying like those are obvious in terms of players that
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: I think could could bring you some some transfer phone.
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: You wouldn't risk them for the money that you would
• 50:14
  Speaker 7: get at all, Like they're they're unsellable for you, They're.
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: Untouchable listen for me, Bustoni and have to be insane offers,
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: like absolutely insane ones. LaTaO, maybe I would listen to
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: only because you know, I feel like he's not he's
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: not a real killer in the box, like you need
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: someone who can just bury goals, you know, I don't know.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: I feel like the striker position is kind of dying
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: off these days. It's not the same as when we
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: were growing up. You know, the names that were there
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: and and the numbers that they were putting up. So
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: like it's hard to say, like what, I really risk
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: him or sell him if because with the way people
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: charge for strikers, you're probably not going to get a
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: decent one for the what we would be able to
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: pay anyway. So it's a tough one. So I would
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: probably stay with him too. The players that I would,
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: you know, consider selling because I think you can get
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: some money and value for them would be b sec
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: and I think that those are your best values if
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: a good offer comes. For Dumfries, the guy used to
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: be his biggest hater. This season, he's he's turned me around,
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: Like now I think he's insanely valuable.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: But he's also about to be thirty years old.
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: And if somebody wants to come and pay forty dollars
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: for a guy that we bought for, you know, twelve five,
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: I'm all for that. So it really depends on how
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: we're able to reinvest in the team. And then you
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: got to cut loose all this old player dead weight.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: You know, Mikitatian's gotta go Anatovichrea. As much as I
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: like at Chad Toby, he's gonna be thirty eight, right Like,
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: I don't even think as a death piece.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: He's worth he's worth keeping. And you know that's that's
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: kind of where I'm at.
• 51:55
  Speaker 7: No, that's that's that's pretty Uh, it's pretty understand about
• 51:58
  Speaker 7: what Chilogo midfielder is.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: Another is young answer, he's you know what, He's probably
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: someone I would consider offers for to like, if if
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: the right offer came in, you know, on a free transfer,
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: everything would be capital gains with him, So yeah, I would.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: I'd be open to that too, because this year was
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: a very down year for him, and I think it's
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: only going to continue to decline unfortunately.
• 52:18
  Speaker 7: I'm also I'm also it's interesting that you say, b sec.
• 52:21
  Speaker 7: I think he's an interesting profile as a player. Young
• 52:25
  Speaker 7: still has shown up obviously had his mistakes as well,
• 52:29
  Speaker 7: don't don't get me wrong. And again, it's unfortunate that
• 52:31
  Speaker 7: he kind of goes down as a brin comes in
• 52:33
  Speaker 7: as a sub, goes down with the injury, has to
• 52:35
  Speaker 7: get subbed on and then subbed off right after exactly
• 52:39
  Speaker 7: forced to make these subs on defense, just because of
• 52:43
  Speaker 7: the nature of what was going on.
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: So that's an interesting one for me. I would say,
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: I think Fletezi it's unfortunate.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: I think he went kind of similar to how players.
• 52:55
  Speaker 7: Have went to juve and then just didn't find enough
• 52:58
  Speaker 7: space or way, but didn't play up to potential and
• 53:02
  Speaker 7: kind of died off.
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: I feel like was in that mix.
• 53:05
  Speaker 7: Granted, whatever you said your piece, he came in and
• 53:08
  Speaker 7: maybe didn't provide what you or as fans, would have
• 53:12
  Speaker 7: expected or needed from a player like him. But I think, uh,
• 53:17
  Speaker 7: you know, departure with him, I think kind of makes
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: sense in terms of even just for his career, just
• 53:22
  Speaker 7: to get more minutes.
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think he just didn't fit the system.
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: He didn't fit this and I think it was unfair.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: A lot of people were recording him as the next Barrella.
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: If anyone ever saw him play as Swallow, They're very
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: different profiles to begin with. It's like he's not he's
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: not that same same characteristics that that Bla has. And
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: I think that was an unfair expectation. But I mean
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: I I listen, I didn't want him to begin with.
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: You know, out of all the guys that Swallow were
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: selling in that window, whether it was RASPALOI Skamacha, I
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: wanted Scamacha.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: I thought that he would have been you know, a
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: good fit, uh for this squad.
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, at that time, but you know for you know,
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: not unfortunately, but you know, we ended up with and
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: I knew he wouldn't fit this system. I knew he
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: wasn't a type of player that would do what ANXACTI
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: expects of his midfielders to be able to do. And
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: that's why Mickey Taddian was always starting over him. So
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: I think that, yeah, he'd be better off at you know,
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: either going back to Roma. I mean there's rumors about
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: Napoli as well. Listen, if you guys want to cough
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: up forty five mil for him, I'm I'm all all
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: for it.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: I'll help pack his bags myself if you want.
• 54:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I hear you on that, guys.
• 54:29
  Speaker 7: I don't know if you had any other questions. I
• 54:31
  Speaker 7: kind of just wanted to touch upon quickly the national
• 54:33
  Speaker 7: team before we wrap up.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: The only thing I thought of actually was related to
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: the national team. I'll let you go first, agrinc Is.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Then if no, no, no, But all I was gonna say,
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Cherby pulling out? Are you surprised about that?
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah? What is that?
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Like that. That whole twitter that Instagram
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: posted his was very cryptic.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know if he's got like personal problems with
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: Spaletti or something, but listen, I think that he does.
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: He would have done a job against against Holland, we
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: saw what he did. I mean, granted it was two
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: years ago in the Champions League final, but I think
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: he does better with physical strikers, and strikers who have
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: to play with their their back to goal as well
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: their body. When when they're when they're pacy and they're
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: you know, shifty, he's he's not able to do really
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: anything with them. So I think that he would have
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: been good to have, especially given all the injuries. You
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: know that he all our defenders are having right now,
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: they're dropping like flies. H And I still would take
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: him over Hughani. So I mean, listen, he's on a
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: beach right now with his wife. They look pretty happy
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: on the water, so I'm assuming that he needed this rest.
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: I don't think he really should have been called up
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: at this age because realistically, even though he would have
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: helped us for qualifications, who's going to be there in
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: the World Cup not him.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: So it's like, I don't know.
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I found that whole. I mean, I don't know.
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: Part of me is like, you know, kind of you know,
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: you span the face of the national team and just
• 55:59
  Speaker 6: you know the coach and you know what it means.
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: But again, at the end of the day, I don't know.
• 56:05
  Speaker 7: He says, it's not because of you know, anything personal
• 56:08
  Speaker 7: or not because of the Champions League final loss. Bro,
• 56:14
  Speaker 7: you're thirty seven. You're gonna be thirty eight whenever your
• 56:16
  Speaker 7: birthday is. I don't know, I've said, and again the
• 56:20
  Speaker 7: story what he's gone through in his life. Again, Shapo,
• 56:25
  Speaker 7: you know, you have to respect this is a guy
• 56:27
  Speaker 7: that's been through it all hell and back and that
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: you can never take away from him, even if you
• 56:33
  Speaker 7: love him or you hate him, it doesn't matter. You
• 56:35
  Speaker 7: have to respect what he's been through and where he's
• 56:38
  Speaker 7: got into in his life personally and professionally. Nobody can
• 56:43
  Speaker 7: ever take away those things from from him. I personally
• 56:46
  Speaker 7: don't like how he went about it. I don't know,
• 56:49
  Speaker 7: like fake an injury, go home like everybody else is going,
• 56:52
  Speaker 7: Why do we have to make this.
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: A soap opera you know kind of kind of thing.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: Fair, Yeah, already we have that to.
• 57:01
  Speaker 7: Deal with in Italy already, Like Italy doesn't need more
• 57:05
  Speaker 7: of this drama, soap opera type of stuff.
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: So I don't know.
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: I think he could have went about it a different way.
• 57:11
  Speaker 7: Buffon's words were pretty interesting as well, what he kind
• 57:15
  Speaker 7: of responded to, uh to what chaabe's decision? That you
• 57:20
  Speaker 7: know right, you know rightfully? So I think he he
• 57:23
  Speaker 7: earns yea right, like yeah, I agree to and he
• 57:25
  Speaker 7: earns he he earned his his stripes to kind of
• 57:29
  Speaker 7: say words like that, so you know, it made sense,
• 57:33
  Speaker 7: But yeah, I don't know.
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: The person wasn't a fan of all that. And again
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: I've said it timeless times, like it's.
• 57:40
  Speaker 7: We have to we have to go forward in terms
• 57:42
  Speaker 7: of these like we're really calling up a chattaby still,
• 57:46
  Speaker 7: like it's unfortunate that we've kind of had to still
• 57:50
  Speaker 7: be on that page, but it's we got to turn
• 57:54
  Speaker 7: the page now, like officially, and I think now with
• 57:56
  Speaker 7: this whole drama soap opera and not been using the
• 58:00
  Speaker 7: call up, if you will, I think close that chapter
• 58:03
  Speaker 7: with him. But again, thank you for what you've done,
• 58:05
  Speaker 7: but I think it's time to move on. But just
• 58:08
  Speaker 7: jam Marco and just in general with the two outcoming
• 58:11
  Speaker 7: World Up qualifying games Friday against Norway, Monday against Moldova
• 58:18
  Speaker 7: in Italy. The first game on Fridays in Norway from
• 58:23
  Speaker 7: uh yeah it's in Norway.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:26
  Speaker 7: Just again, I guess your your expectations, what you thought
• 58:30
  Speaker 7: of the call ops that were called up and all
• 58:32
  Speaker 7: these changes that have been made, uh SPOETI kind.
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: Of finally rewarding some players calling up some usual names.
• 58:40
  Speaker 6: Uh some I don't know. I've had mixed up opinions
• 58:43
  Speaker 6: on it. I just want to hear yours on what
• 58:45
  Speaker 6: you expect and what is to come of the national team.
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, look, it's it's not uh not the best
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: squad obviously given the standards that we've seen with the
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: Italian national team. You know, I'm happy for guys like Calafiori,
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: who I think is going to have a little bit
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: of a say now.
• 59:06
  Speaker 6: I'm fortunate he's still injured though it's unfortunate, but.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: I thought he was gonna be able to play the
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: second game at least.
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: No, is that right, I didn't hear.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong. I thought that's what but I could
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: be wrong.
• 59:16
  Speaker 6: Oh okay, if anything, that's great.
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: Actually, if he is able to go with the second one.
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: I mean Casa, you know, I I like what I
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: saw with him at too. I mean, he showed potential
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: in the Enterprimo Erra team, so it's good to see
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: him there. Revelas, in my opinion, probably the most underrated
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: midfielder in Setia. I think he doesn't get the respect
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: that he deserves. I think that he's a great, you know,
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: defensive midfielder there that I think he's very good at
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: winning the ball back. I think he will allow Tonali
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: a little bit more space to be able to do
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: what he does best. So I think that's going to
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: be good for the midfield aspect. You know, I mean
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: some of the names that you see, you know, I'm
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: not excited that, you know, dilod Enzo is there. I'm
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: not excited that.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: He's there. I'm not his biggest fan.
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: No offense, Johnny, Like I just, I don't really think
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: he does much for the national team. I'm hoping that
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: that Keen Lucaretey can can have, you know, solid performances.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: But it's really going to come down to this game against.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: Oh In kind actually, I'm happy that he I thought
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: that he should have been there over Medet I I
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: don't understand. I mean, I know Spalletti's loyal to to
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: Nopoly players and I respect that to a degree, but
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: in terms of performances, I mean, kind Ski was a
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: better goalkeeper obviously doesn't matter. We all know Don Duma
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: is gonna be the starter, so like yeah, but I
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: think just in terms of like respecting players and even Dieagodio,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know how you don't bring him either, Like
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: I just I know Vicadio got got sent to home
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: because of injuries whatever, but Digagodia was unbelievable. I would
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: say the MVP for uvent this honestly this this season.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: So but we'll see what happens. Uh this game against Norway.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: You know there are already up six points on us,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: so tend to it's a must win, like a must win.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: Now you can't just escape with a draw, if you like,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: and we have to get first in the group. We
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: cannot put ourselves in a situation to go through a playoff.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: So like, I'm hoping that these guys understand the gravity
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: of the situation and are able to put you know,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: a performance worthy. I don't listen, I don't even care
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: if it's an ugly win, just win. It could be
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: the ugliest goal ever, Like, just win this game. You
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: should be able to take care of Moldova no matter
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: who plays. But like this game because they have the lead,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: and they're probably going to be your main competition to
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: qualify for out of the group, at least you have
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: to beat them to at least narrowly close that gap
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: you know with them of course, so.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 6: I totally agree it's we can if they expanded the
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: fucking competition. If we can't make this guys.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, cause we might have to fold as a
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: as a nation. And when it comes to Tosager now
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: if we can't make it, honestly.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 7: No, it's no especially with like you said and we
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 7: kind of touch upon it a bit off air, but
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 7: already up to two games on us six points that
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 7: you said, like, that's that's massive, like already already. I
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 7: think if it was a level playing field in terms
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 7: of like they didn't already play those two games, I
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 7: think it was still a must win. I don't think
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 7: that really would have taken away anything from that. I
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 7: think you have to start a qualifying phase on the
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 7: right foot.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: For me, it just pisses me off that we kind
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 6: of it's it's so soon after this season and we're like,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 6: like you kind of mentioned earlier, like players dropping like flies,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: and it's not the best look.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 7: You know, we need these defenders, especially these defenders that
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 7: are dropping. It seems to be every day it's like
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 7: a different defender that that kind of you know, is
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 7: leaving the Tiro and now we're finding a replacement, you know,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 7: Luca Renieri, you know, good for him. I think that's
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 7: an interesting profile. But RUGANI, like I cannot believe he called.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: Especially overme O break the line up at uh at Ajax.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: He only played like fifteen games at Ajax. Yeah, and
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: you're gonna call him up over Romano. Yeah, even I mean, listen,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: I'm not the biggest Mancini fan, neither of I, but
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: still but still like, yeah, they're both better options than
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: than Hugani without a question. Yeah, it's yeah, like and
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: you know what, like I'm I'm excited. Actually you know
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: what else I'm I said for or Soolini, I forgot
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: forgot to him, all that knocking, all that knocking, They
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: finally they finally opened the door for him.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 6: There you go.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: And he's you know, he's a he's a guy. I mean, listen,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: I know our our friend, uh Nick Deani has been
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: probably the biggest proponent for her or So I'm glad
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: he's he's finally getting the respect he was due and.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 7: Honestly, and we kind of I said it a bit
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 7: earlier in our in our team this season, uh you know,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 7: portion of of our recordings tonight. But I hope are
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 7: our strikers. And I know you're a big fan of
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 7: Tag you like I am as well, uh, or at
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 7: least you have been. I don't know if that's changed,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 7: but still, yeah, I'm a big fan of Face as well,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 7: and I just hope him and and Keen, like I
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 7: think these two guys yes to the season they've had,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 7: you know, the top two scorers in Italy, the best
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 7: forwards if you will, in the league.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 6: I just hope that translates to the national team. Keane
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 6: really stepped up again in that bullshit Nations League game
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 6: against Germany, like he really, you know, he put on
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 6: he put on the muscle right, like he always does.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 6: He puts on he says, flexing on them, right. He
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 6: keeps on doing that, that fucking celebration and hopefully he
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 6: can he can he can do that against Norway because
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 6: I think he's a player that has has unlocked a
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 6: new chapter in his career and uh, you know, some
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 6: some new maybe potential, and I'm curious to see if
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 6: he if he if he does it against not only Norway,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 6: just in this qualifying journey, because they have to understand,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 6: you know, the severity of missing of potentially missing another
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 6: World Cup. I think they definitely have to wake up
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 6: of after what we saw at at the Euros right
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 6: last year, and Spati has to has to recognize that.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 6: And I think go forward and you're listening.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 7: To just the the press conferences, don A Ruma, I
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 7: know mentioned you know, we have to we have to
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 7: make it to the World Cup and I think the
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 7: Arenzo said, you know, or if you think it was
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 7: the Arenza, I'm not even really.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 6: Sure who it was.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 7: But you know, we we have these younger generations of
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 7: Italians and Italian Azuri fans and to enjoy, you know,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 7: being in a tournament, being in a World Cup, you know,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 7: doing well and and and and being at.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 6: The highest levels. So, uh, it starts.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 7: It starts Friday obviously with Norway, and uh, we're just
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 7: hopeful that I think it's a must must win in
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 7: both games and they have to come out of this
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 7: window with two wins under the adult if honest.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: No, couldn't couldn't agree more. I actually got a question
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: for you guys. If we lose this game against Norway,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: what do you what would you do with Spalletti?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: Send them to the guleg.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: Like like, I mean, I know it's kind of crazy
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: and they're you know, like, but would you maybe like, yeah,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: fire him and then go.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: Back to Manchets. Obviously he's probably the.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: Only manager available, but at that point, I think, like,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know how you could go forward if he
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: doesn't win this game.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: At that point, I think, you know, how much football?
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: How much footbopping can they do before? It's like, we
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: know there's a systematic problem within Italian couch show and yeah,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: there's only so much you can do at the national level, right,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: you know you can't you can't get you can't sign players. Honestly,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: go to Brazil and find all these players with Italian
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: nationality Argentina or Argentina, yeah, or the US or Canada,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: and we're gonna be playing for them.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: But one day, one day.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: That that is tough.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: Honestly, I do agree.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: I don't know if the fire I don't think they
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: have enough balls to cut ties that quickly.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: But would I would agree, right, I don't. I don't
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: think they have the balls, but I feel like they would.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: They should.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: If you don't like this is.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: This needs a top to bottom refresh in Italian football,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: which I'm sure you guys you know, I think the
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: same thing, like if we're unable to one produce players
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: of quality that we had even twenty years ago to
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: be able to represent the national team and get us
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: into these competitions, you know, Like I think they're riding
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: on the high of winning the Euros from twenty twenty one,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: but guys, that was four years ago.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: You know, like since then we've we've.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: Missed a World Cup and now we could potentially miss
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: another one like that, that's unacceptable. And to miss at
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: four three in a row, sorry, it would be three
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: World Cups in a row, that's that's inexcusable, Like especially
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: for a country like Italy, and you know, who are
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: are so proud of the players that they produce, and
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: and and you know the history obviously that we have,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: but the quality just isn't what it used to be,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: even like from a forward line and defensively. You know,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: it's nice that we had this abundance of midfield talent,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: but you know, up front, it as much as I
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: love that the and and and keen has has really
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: you know, come on late, it's not the same as
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: when you had you know, guys like you know, tot
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: the Vieri, Luca Toni. I mean, obviously you can go
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: back to the piano and Baggio even earlier, you know,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: like but it you know, Daniel Mardini I don't think
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: is national team quality. What he doesn't even make the
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: team in two thousand and six, right, So it's it's
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: kind of scary the state that we're in, and if
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: we we struggle against a country like Norway, it is
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: a you know, I think you start ringing the alarm
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: bells at that point, right.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 7: Yeah, if that doesn't ring off the alarm bells, I
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 7: don't know what will, to be honest with you, so
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 7: uh no, it's I don't know if we'll listen. I
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 7: don't know, Like it's so hard to say, but I
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 7: don't know if we'll ever get back to those glory
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 7: days of those types of because even even the guys
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 7: like you mentioned, like all the you know, all the legends,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 7: but like you know, even guys of like below that,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 7: like you know, like the total Dina Tale is, the
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 7: fucking Miko E's, the Quadierella is the you know, it's
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 7: it's just like like we're not even the Cassano's for
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 7: that matter, right, like hate him like he was he
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 7: was a talent, right Like it's you know, I don't know,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 7: it's just it's it's hard to to go like Johnny's background.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 7: I always reference it, but like that background, like I
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 7: don't know if we'll ever see that again. And as
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 7: for a lifetime, right, like it's you know, for the
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 7: for the you know, just the audio listeners, Johnny's background, Maldini,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 7: Nest Piero, Like these are these are guys that you know,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 7: people of our generation. These are idols for for for
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 7: a lot of us, right and maybe the reasons why
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 7: certain certain people in our generation became culture fans and
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 7: started loving you know, be your Cup team and obviously
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 7: the national team.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 7: So it's just the drop off, is it is crazy?
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 7: I do think there is talent in Italy. Like, don't
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 7: get me wrong, I still.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 6: Do think there is no talent.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 7: Uh, it's just us putting it all together too to
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 7: as a finished product and and and really delivering on
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 7: the pitch.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 6: That is the problem.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 7: And we can have a whole other show of of
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 7: all the issues with italentan you know youth and and
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 7: you know not bringing them you know up and and
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 7: not playing them and two youth?
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 6: Is that were you gonna say?
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 9: I was going to my cousins, right, Joe Pashi for
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 9: all you guys that are what a great movie, the best, right,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 9: the best? But I read you like a book.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 6: I saw your face, I saw you're gonna do you
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 6: unmuted yourself. I knew this guy was I just know.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 6: But no, like it's it's it's it's definitely something that's alarming.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 6: But again, all that to say, two wins from two
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 6: Norway Moldova, this this qualifying window and uh, you know,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 6: we go forward from here because at the end of
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 6: the day, we should not be struggling with any of
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: these teams, if I'm honest, if I agreed, honest, we.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 7: Shouldn't be struggling against any of these teams. Italy already
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 7: was a disappointed you missed one World Cup. Two was
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 7: a nightmare. If three, we might have to call it,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 7: call it a rop. Here, we might have to just say,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 7: you know what, thank you, Okay, now we're going on
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 7: and and just call.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 6: It a rap.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: We're gonna give our player, gonna give a players arrest.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 6: This is this is, this would be just catastrophic.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 7: But again a country again, we to to to struggle
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 7: with Norway, uh, Moldova.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: We lost to North Macedonia.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 6: Nor Macedonia.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 7: Right, you know we're playing fucking I think Israel and
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 7: this fucking thing, right is it Estonia the other team, Like.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 6: We can't even Estonia, right, Estonia? Like where's that on
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 6: the map? Some people don't even know, right, like they
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 6: like this is. This is absurd to me if we're
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 6: going to be struggling with any of these teams. So
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: we have to finish first. And I agree with what
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 6: you said, John Marco.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 7: It's it's first or nothing, because it's gonna be it's
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 7: gonna be pretty uh you know, Murky waters if we
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 7: if we don't finish first place in my opinion, and again,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 7: like I said earlier, it starts. It starts Friday against
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 7: Norway in Norway, and hopefully we'll get the job done.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: John Marco, we know you have to go, so we'll
• 1:12:57
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• 1:12:59
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• 1:13:43
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• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: to talk to you.
• 1:13:45
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  Speaker 2: Loved the game, you know, I told you at the
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  Speaker 2: Now Johnny, we don't know which team c you support today,
• 1:14:01
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• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: good fun. Like at the end of the day, this,
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  Speaker 5: You know the support is in some Bukima. So I
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  Speaker 6: Can't wait thirty million, you gotta call fuck if you're
• 1:14:20
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• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: Maco again as a as A, as a trio here
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 6: we just want to again thank you really for your time.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 7: You're you're really like Denoi right we can have we
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 7: talk as if it's you know, we're talking at the bar.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 7: We're talking at the cafe, which is uh. It's honestly
• 1:14:37
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• 1:14:41
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• 1:14:44
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• 1:14:47
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• 1:14:49
  Speaker 6: It's it's they've what are you guys on now? You
• 1:14:52
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• 1:14:55
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  Speaker 6: Uh and yeah, we'll be back next.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 7: Week to wrap up. It was hopefully it was two
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 7: wins in the World Cup of Fine.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: Well, look let me say like, I love coming on
• 1:15:44
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• 1:15:46
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• 1:15:49
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• 1:15:53
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• 1:15:56
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• 1:15:59
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• 1:16:01
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• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: and you were able to just.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: Exactly no, I agree.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 6: I couldn't agree more and I appreciate the words.
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  Speaker 5: Man definitely, even I got an inter fan followed Remarco
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  Speaker 1: He's great.
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• 1:16:19
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• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: So definitely definitely able to follow for that.
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• 1:16:25
  Speaker 7: Guys, got next week talk about more cultural Thanks for listening,
• 1:16:30
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