Latest / BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show / Lion, Tiger, Bear ... Oh My! (John W. Warner IV)
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- 0:00We always have a blast chatting with our guests about all sorts of
- 0:03different topics, but sometimes we go off the rails and dig deeper into
- 0:07their automotive and motorsports pasts.
- 0:09As a bonus, let's go behind the scenes with this pit stop mini sode
- 0:13for some extra content that didn't quite fit in the main episode.
- 0:17Sit back and enjoy.
- 0:17Enjoy, and remember to like, subscribe, and support Brake Fix on Patreon.
- 0:24They say that of cars too, never drive your heroes.
- 0:27I've made that mistake several times.
- 0:29I do not recommend it.
- 0:31That I don't understand.
- 0:32What do you mean?
- 0:33So for instance, celebrity cars, I've driven the Smoky and the Bandit Trans Am.
- 0:38I've driven an R5 Turbo.
- 0:40I've driven all sorts of things that you would see in a movie,
- 0:43you know, all sorts of cars.
- 0:44And you're like, that isn't nearly as impressive as it looked like
- 0:47when it was on the big screen.
- 0:48No, especially if it's a studio stunt car, you know, they're
- 0:51all rigged for doing spins.
- 0:53Exactly.
- 0:54Exactly.
- 0:55By the way, I, I have to voice all my racing friends and I just couldn't
- 0:59stand the Ford versus Ferrari movie.
- 1:01It's true story and, and the acting was good.
- 1:04That wasn't the problem, but they were all driving 60 miles an hour on track
- 1:08and talking to one another in a GT40.
- 1:10And I'm like, you can't do that.
- 1:12The windows are shut.
- 1:13It's loud as hell.
- 1:14I'd driven an original GT40 around summit point in a vintage race.
- 1:18And you can't hear yourself scream.
- 1:21The movie is just, it was pathetic.
- 1:23The racing scenes.
- 1:24But other than that, it was a great movie for the story.
- 1:26And yeah, I agree with you there.
- 1:28And it had a little touch, a little dash of Fast and the Furious 2, where it's
- 1:32like, how many times is he going to shift?
- 1:34And how long is a lap at, you know, how long is the Mulsanne at Le Mans?
- 1:38It's like 20 minutes for him to get from one end to the other at 200 miles an hour.
- 1:42And then he suddenly downshifts and goes faster.
- 1:44I'm like, come on.
- 1:45They never get it right in movies.
- 1:46They just, they're so lazy and stupid and all.
- 1:48Well, the alternative to that would be Steve McQueen's Le Mans,
- 1:52where it's almost too realistic and it's three hours of torture.
- 1:55Yeah, that was docudrama.
- 1:57Exactly.
- 1:57And he could drive.
- 1:59You know, whereas a lot of these actors, they can't fucking drive.
- 2:01You can't teach anyone that.
- 2:04kind of stuff.
- 2:05Stunt driving is a little different from racing.
- 2:08Movies never get it right.
- 2:09As you know, you got to be there at the race or you got to be behind the wheel.
- 2:13It's like watching paint dry.
- 2:14Exactly.
- 2:15Nobody wants to watch golf.
- 2:16Everybody wants to play golf.
- 2:18Well, that only takes one ball.
- 2:19Racing takes two.
- 2:21I like that.
- 2:22That's, I'm going to use that.
- 2:23That's great.
- 2:24What's the difference between historical fiction and revisionist fiction exists.
- 2:29I believe that it's all has a basis.
- 2:30In fact, some of it's pure fantasy, but not as much as people think.
- 2:34That's my personal thing.
- 2:36I'm merging the UFO disclosure movement topics and history and the history of
- 2:41the world and Atlantis, blah, blah, blah, into the new book of World War II.
- 2:45And people will think, wow, this is a great fantasy thing, It's more truth
- 2:49in it than people would ever suspect.
- 2:51I'm not telling people what to believe, but my foreword,
- 2:54I'll send you my foreword.
- 2:55I say, look, you can watch video footage of Foo Fighters.
- 2:58Everyone thinks that's a 1990s band.
- 2:59That was the name for UFOs in World War II.
- 3:01A lot of people don't realize that.
- 3:03Yeah, nor does my cousin ever mention that shit.
- 3:06A lying liar.
- 3:08But what they're hiding is not funny.
- 3:10Whatever the truth is, and I think it's a lot of it really is true, because
- 3:14they've been hiding this tooth and nail.
- 3:16Father.
- 3:17told me not to go down that road.
- 3:19You can watch my Daniel List interviews.
- 3:21I call spade a spade.
- 3:23My father lied to me, but he did it to protect.
- 3:25So your recent thing on history, is that with respect to the book
- 3:28or is that with respect to the US?
- 3:30I'll send you the link.
- 3:31Okay, cool.
- 3:32As we kind of wrap up here, I have a couple other questions I want to ask
- 3:35just for, just for fun, because you, you mentioned earlier Ford versus Ferrari
- 3:39and some of these other historical pieces and there's been a recent influx of.
- 3:44biopics or biopics, depending on how, you know, how you want
- 3:46to use the inflection there.
- 3:48You weren't a big fan of four versus four, but what did you think of rush?
- 3:51Rush was good.
- 3:52I thought I did a little bit of Formula Atlantic and Formula Ford early on youth.
- 3:57That is the most pure form of racing.
- 3:59There is open wheel.
- 4:00I was always afraid I was going to lose my leg.
- 4:02I wanted a car with a roll cage.
- 4:04I think I promised my parents that.
- 4:06I think a guy, somebody at Indy smashed into a wall and you can build those
- 4:10tubs out of carbon fiber all day long.
- 4:12No way.
- 4:12And so I got out of that, but it was the most pure, Formula Atlantic
- 4:16was just unbelievably precise.
- 4:17So I liked Rush.
- 4:18I thought Rush was very good.
- 4:20I thought the original Grand Prix movie from 1964 was good.
- 4:24Robert Wagner, right?
- 4:25Yeah, and I thought that was very good.
- 4:27It showed, you know, those guys died like rats in a drain pipe,
- 4:30you know, the cruel sport.
- 4:31I thought, you know, that was a good movie.
- 4:33That was the only two I think I liked.
- 4:36In reality, and I know this sounds like, I'm meeting a celebrity or
- 4:41whatever, but I'm in awe of your history and this in the book.
- 4:44And like I said, reading this has been an inspiration and it's kind of, you
- 4:48know, been a kick in the balls to say, if you got an idea, just fricking do it.
- 4:52So I really appreciate it.
- 4:54Yeah, I mean, it came out of a time in my life where I just didn't have many
- 4:59options to work or do anything anymore.
- 5:02And I had been so used to the action and adrenaline.
- 5:05I think what you're doing is really interesting.
- 5:07I love to hear stories.
- 5:09And, More.
- 5:24Anton's a deeper story.
- 5:26It's more poignant than just racing history.
- 5:29Absolutely.
- 5:29Absolutely.
- 5:30Now you've done a fantastic job.
- 5:31War starts, but the racing and the World War II and the
- 5:35propaganda and all that stuff.
- 5:37That's all real.
- 5:38Horseshoe did go on to build military parts and things that
- 5:42Wolfberg factory with slave labor and It's sort of sexy history.
- 5:46A lot of people turned off by Hitler and the Nazis, but there are more people that
- 5:49are very interested in that because it was just such, I mean, we're, I'm learning
- 5:53new things about World War II every month that aren't told in the history books.
- 5:57And then I have to dig out a Polish historian.
- 5:59I mean, it's that kind of thing.
- 6:01And I dovetail that stuff.
- 6:02So when Bee and the crew goes on into other books, they
- 6:06have that Porsche legacy.
- 6:08The new book, Portia has an electric Kugelwagen.
- 6:10It's a prototype and he's got it with a solar cell for the Africa
- 6:14core, which makes perfect sense.
- 6:16And of course, if anyone was going to do an electric car, it would be Porsche.
- 6:19Well, he's, he was obsessed with it from an early age.
- 6:22Like the water Porsche was all electric.
- 6:24I'm sure during the war, they tried that, but battery technology,
- 6:28I make it seem he's privy to classified batteries and stuff to
- 6:31make it work, but it's a prototype.
- 6:33And so there is a Porsche in the new book.
- 6:37Funny enough, there is a car it's inside something else, this
- 6:41German anti gravity airship.
- 6:44It's the emergency landing vehicle.
- 6:46Nice.
- 6:47It's shuttlecraft.
- 6:48It's brilliant.
- 6:48It is.
- 6:50You land in the desert.
- 6:51What are you going to do?
- 6:52And of course this thing is supplying a mining base in the desert.
- 6:55Porsche is in there with his engineering, but his tank,
- 6:58yeah, you're gonna love that.
- 7:00That's gonna be awesome.
- 7:01A hybrid electric tiger tank, that's true.
- 7:04Oh, that's brilliant.
- 7:05Yeah, it didn't work quite well, and I wrote it, it broke down.
- 7:08When it worked, it was brilliant.
- 7:10It would have been the better tank, but Hitler rushed everything into production.
- 7:13What an idiot.
- 7:14Porsche went up to Hitler and said, The Soviets have this beautiful
- 7:17tank, the T 34, that they're rolling out by the thousands.
- 7:20Let's copy it.
- 7:21And he said, No way.
- 7:22We're doing a heavy tank with an 88mm gun.
- 7:25Porsche couldn't believe it.
- 7:26He said, I'll copy the Russian tank.
- 7:27It's diesel.
- 7:29It won't blow up like our tanks are blowing up.
- 7:31No, no.
- 7:32That's true.
- 7:32Porsche recommended the Soviet tank.
- 7:34I mentioned it in the book.
- 7:35I had a cut out three chapters where Porsche actually went to Russia.
- 7:38They wanted him to be the automobile czar.
- 7:41I do remember seeing that somewhere.
- 7:43Not in the book, but I remember reading that in the history.
- 7:45Yeah, they couldn't leave.
- 7:46Once they were there, they'd be paid well, but it's like, One of his
- 7:49engineers went up to him and said, What's the point of being paid all this
- 7:53money if we can't leave Soviet Russia?
- 7:55You know they won't let us come back to Germany.
- 7:57And they said, Fuck that.
- 7:58I can't believe it.
- 7:58He was offering them like the equivalent of millions of dollars.
- 8:01He was like, Nope.
- 8:02I know too much about French and British cars, not as much about
- 8:04Porsche history as I should.
- 8:06But you know, hey, whatever.
- 8:07One of my favorite cars, I had a 1986 Lotus Turbo Esprit.
- 8:12Oh, nice.
- 8:13With a tan interior, and I had been racing for three years, and
- 8:17I thought it was the best car.
- 8:19The engine didn't have a lot of torque, but the car was very lightweight.
- 8:22It was 2, 800 pounds, whereas the compatible Ferrari
- 8:26328 was 500 pounds more.
- 8:29That was Chapman's thing, add lightness, then power.
- 8:31Yeah, lightness.
- 8:32And so, I think the lotus flower, you know, that goes back to ancient Egypt.
- 8:35It was sacred.
- 8:36It might have something to do with lightweight.
- 8:38The mystical nature of the lotus flower.
- 8:41Probably something like that if Colin knew his Egyptian history, but it was
- 8:45very important to the Egyptians They actually drank a tea of opium lotus
- 8:49flower and belladonna and the priest would astral travel in the pyramid
- 8:54Yeah pyramid before anyway, you know, it might have had something to do with
- 8:58that But I liked Chapman's idea of lightness and of course, he would just
- 9:01die today You have to have so much safety gear that car was really something.
- 9:05I had it for a long time four years.
- 9:07God, he should drive around Manhattan.
- 9:09Crazy man.
- 9:10It was actually the suspension was supple.
- 9:13What a great car.
- 9:14It's underrated.
- 9:15They weren't built very well, but they were great to drive.
- 9:18They handle.
- 9:19I've had the pleasure of driving several different kinds of loaded low tie.
- 9:23They all put a smile on my face.
- 9:24And then I cringe afterward when I look at how they're made.
- 9:27They were like kid cars, but you know, he didn't care about that.
- 9:31He was like after performance.
- 9:33Correct.
- 9:33Absolute.
- 9:34So you sacrificed luxury.
- 9:35I mean, and the car had beautiful leather, but the, you know, the switch gear and
- 9:38the, the shitty transmission was from a EO or something, or ult god that let it down.
- 9:43But, uh, other than that, it was brilliant and the engine was good and strong.
- 9:47You had to red the hell out of it, but it was a great engine.
- 9:49I think they got 300 horsepower out of that four cylinder after a while.
- 9:53That's a lot from 2.2 liters.
- 9:55Exactly.
- 9:56Back in the day today, it's no big deal.
- 9:58You can get a one liter car to have a thousand repair, but it was
- 10:00difficult back in the late eighties.
- 10:02You know, what's funny though, that I kind of strangely imagined in the
- 10:06book that not the Porsche had buddies.
- 10:09He was kind of like a lone wolf in a lot of cases.
- 10:11Right.
- 10:12I mean, you do a very good job.
- 10:13Adolf Rosenberger was his friend, but he was also a financier.
- 10:19And so, but they were always at like arm's length, but I got, he was a friend.
- 10:23Yes.
- 10:24But I also thought because of Porsche's use of diesel, that.
- 10:28In my head, I imagined him sitting down in the book and discussing
- 10:33ideas with Rudolf Diesel.
- 10:35Just like, one of those kinds of things.
- 10:37Like, they would have been buddies.
- 10:37I don't know when Rudolf died.
- 10:40He was French.
- 10:41He probably did, he saw the merit in it for trucks.
- 10:45Not cars at the time, but with trucks.
- 10:48But Bugatti was a fellow genius, and they really were friends in real life.
- 10:52One can only imagine the conversations.
- 10:54Yeah, right.
- 10:55I write it that they're kind of like two bros and they're like making fun of
- 10:59each other in sort of an offhand way.
- 11:01He calls Bugatti's cars ox carts and Bugatti's called his trucks or
- 11:06whatever, you know, and, but I can see that happening between two geniuses.
- 11:09Yeah, exactly.
- 11:10And they actually, Bugatti worked with him in Germany a long time back.
- 11:14They met in Germany.
- 11:15I can't remember if they were working for Mercedes or I think it
- 11:17was for somebody else and they met.
- 11:19They were both engineers.
- 11:20They were young men.
- 11:21Can't remember when they met or where it was, but they discussed,
- 11:24back when I met you at such and such place, you were a grease hog, I mean,
- 11:29you were an asshole, you know, and they go back and forth with this.
- 11:32I liked the banter between Bugatti and Porsche.
- 11:49And now I ate in there.
- 11:50Where B goes to Bugatti.
- 11:52My editor said to take it out, and I said, Fuck you.
- 11:55I'm not taking this out.
- 11:56So B and this real, you know who Wolf Barnetto is?
- 11:58Mm hmm.
- 11:59The Bentley Boys.
- 12:00Okay, well he's in the book.
- 12:01He and B are friends.
- 12:02They become friends.
- 12:03Oh yeah, fuck yeah.
- 12:04She drives a supercharged Bentley.
- 12:06Yeah.
- 12:07And that's a little bit onto Ian Fleming a little bit, but I have her drive a special
- 12:11with a speed six, not a four cylinder.
- 12:13It's a real hot rod.
- 12:14And she becomes friends with Wolf.
- 12:16Well, they go to Bugatti to convince him of this project that she's working on.
- 12:21I need to go to the Grossglockner.
- 12:22This is all fiction, but Porsche took his auto units to the Grossglockner hillclimb.
- 12:27As the Germans did every year for testing.
- 12:29She and Wolf Barnano, Barnano knew Bugatti.
- 12:31And her mother knew Bugatti.
- 12:33They're all chummy.
- 12:33Her mother drove a Bugatti.
- 12:35She's at school.
- 12:36So she goes up to Bugatti when you read it.
- 12:38I love this chapter.
- 12:39And she's like, I need a Grand Prix car for the Grossglockner hill climb.
- 12:43It's got to have 600 horsepower and I need it in a month.
- 12:47And Bugatti's like, what?
- 12:49Uh, sorry, you know, all our things are spoken for and we don't
- 12:53build Grand Prix cars anymore.
- 12:54We're outclassed by the Germans.
- 12:55And she goes up to a picture on his shelf of him and Porsche at a racetrack.
- 13:00And she turns it to him and said, But just imagine Herr Bugatti or whatever.
- 13:04What do they call him?
- 13:06Monsieur.
- 13:06No, they call Bugatti, I don't know, a name like Ferrari had.
- 13:10Oh yeah, Commendatore.
- 13:12Yeah, something like that.
- 13:13And she goes, imagine wiping that smug look off Porsche's face.
- 13:17When a French car and a French woman, she's gonna pose as a French woman, blows
- 13:21his doors off at the Grossdager Helpline.
- 13:23And Bugatti dovetails to the next chapter and Bugatti whips the
- 13:27tarp off of this chassis, this Grand Prix car that he built.
- 13:31Actually, it's a real car.
- 13:32I got the chassis number that he built with a five liter engine.
- 13:36He turns to his engineer and says, You see that big supercharger over there?
- 13:39Let's bolt it on here with the bigger carburetor.
- 13:42Up the compression and then redo the cans and make the valves bigger.
- 13:46I need 600 horsepower.
- 13:48And the guy's like, yeah, we can do it.
- 13:51Is that a nod to like the 57G tank?
- 13:54Something like that.
- 13:55I have the chassis and he built one five liter Grand Prix car for someone and they
- 13:59either didn't use it or they did it in one race and they didn't use it anymore.
- 14:03They just couldn't compete with the Germans.
- 14:04But B goes up to him and says, Of course, Wilf Barnetto bribes him.
- 14:08Says, if you don't do this, you know, I'm going to tell the
- 14:11press that, you know, that story.
- 14:13He's putting the heat on him, and so they're both putting
- 14:15the heat on, screws to Bugatti.
- 14:16He's like, what the fuck are you people doing in my office?
- 14:19Breathing my air.
- 14:20And they convinced him to do it.
- 14:21And I think in real life, He would have done maybe not a grand prix car
- 14:26to take on Nurburgring but a hill climb car overpowered They were all
- 14:30over cranked superchargers and the germans were running 600 horse and
- 14:34she says I need 600 or better And so they mixed exotic fuels in those days
- 14:39hill climbs were what 10 minutes?
- 14:41They went up full power so they could get away with non standard fuels and No way.
- 14:46You mentioned that when Shtook talks about when the, the, the idiot guy
- 14:51Phil in the petrol spilled it on his neck and how he was burning it.
- 14:53Yeah.
- 14:53It would burn the first two layers of skin off because there's nitrobenzene
- 14:57in it and there's, uh, alcohol and there's all these toxic chemicals.
- 15:02That's a true story.
- 15:03You can actually see some of the footage if you look up the
- 15:05auto union races on YouTube.
- 15:07Somebody gets splashed and turns around really furious.
- 15:10They would burn the drivers.
- 15:11Of course, when they wrecked, they went up like a fireball.
- 15:13So the reason I brought up the 57G tank, I've seen it in person.
- 15:17It's up at the Simeone Foundation in Philadelphia.
- 15:20And that car has an interesting backstory, 100 percent related to World War II.
- 15:25It was the Bugatti race car at the time, it has an airfoil teardrop shape, you
- 15:30know, it was a study in aerodynamics, but it was also a race car, not
- 15:33necessarily a Grand Prix car, though you probably could consider it back then.
- 15:36But because of all the turmoil and everything that was going on in Vichy
- 15:41France to protect that design, Ettore told all those guys to basically find
- 15:47a spot hidden and bury it underground.
- 15:49They almost forgot where it was.
- 15:52And then unearthed it after the war.
- 15:54So that existing car is in Philadelphia.
- 15:56What is this?
- 15:58So I don't know planes as well as I know cars, so you're gonna
- 16:01have to tell me what that is.
- 16:02This is Bugatti's design for an air racing plane.
- 16:05No way.
- 16:06Using two of his straight eight Grand Prix engines with counter rotating propellers.
- 16:11torque effect.
- 16:13But it's a very unusual and beautiful design, like a swallow.
- 16:17That's awesome.
- 16:18So, imagine if the Germans copied this.
- 16:22And whose engine would power it?
- 16:24Well, it'd be Porsche's engine over anybody else's.
- 16:27That's little Anton.
- 16:28Ah.
- 16:30It's a Heinkel.
- 16:31High altitude interceptor.
- 16:32It's the fastest plane in the world in April of 1940.
- 16:36So Little Anton is the codename for the plane?
- 16:39It's his big brother.
- 16:40He nicknames the plane after his dead big brother.
- 16:44Who was named after his father, Antonius Portia, right?
- 16:47Don't tell anybody that, but I'm giving you, I'm spoiling it for you.
- 16:49Yeah, yeah, no, that's fine.
- 16:50I couldn't resist because Bugatti has, the story is, The Germans
- 16:54did have their eye on this plane.
- 16:56Oh boy, did they.
- 16:57Because air racing was basically fighter design.
- 17:00Right.
- 17:01And so Bugatti and his men in the factory, they hit it in a French farmhouse.
- 17:06It survived the war.
- 17:08See, Bugatti's good at hiding stuff, apparently.
- 17:11He did not want his technology going into German hands.
- 17:14The French Air Force was interested in it.
- 17:16War broke out.
- 17:18It was just in a shed and prototype stage.
- 17:21They had no time to test it.
- 17:22No Germans rolled into France quick.
- 17:24And so there is a lot of truth to this German idea of stealing Bugatti's
- 17:29plane, but they make it bigger and it houses one hell of a big cannon.
- 17:34And it's got some other tricks up its sleeve, but Porsche is tasked to design
- 17:39the biggest, most powerful engine in the world out of a classified alloy.
- 17:43Even though it's a 16 cylinder with twin superchargers and twin intercoolers,
- 17:47and it makes 3000 horsepower.
- 17:49This is 1940.
- 17:51So that's a lot.
- 17:52It's twice as much the biggest.
- 17:54It's lightweight because Bugatti, of course, lightweight Porsche lightweight.
- 17:59They both agreed on that principle.
- 18:01And so he says that he's in the hangar with being loose.
- 18:04I mean, it's a great chapter.
- 18:06The plane has massive power.
- 18:07It's an advanced design, but it is lightweight.
- 18:10And there's something on board that makes it even lighter.
- 18:14But I won't ruin that part for you.
- 18:16So I'm just wondering, in historical truth, is there a lot of truth behind it?
- 18:21The story, everyone thinks, oh, he made it up, and, you know, the guy's racing plane
- 18:24was small, and it wouldn't have worked.
- 18:26Oh no, the Germans, they put, you know, they build it with their
- 18:30strength and their, and their stuff, but they build it light and fast.
- 18:34What I'm getting at is, based on historical truth, I'm wondering if
- 18:36that's where the fascination that Porsche has always had with precious
- 18:40metals like magnesium come from.
- 18:42Right.
- 18:43The fictional alloy, blau aluminum, blue aluminum, that I
- 18:46put in the book has also a basis.
- 18:48In fact, the Germans were ahead of everyone as far as the racing
- 18:53aluminum and alloys and stuff.
- 18:55They were working on aircraft frame alloys that were stronger and lighter.
- 18:59So that's basis in truth as well.
- 19:02I'm going to get so many people on this.
- 19:03Porsche designed the Mercedes Benz V12.
- 19:06601 aircraft engine.
- 19:08ME 109, the bombers, they all used it.
- 19:10He designed it before he left Mercedes.
- 19:12It was on a design board that's in the book.
- 19:14He did design a big 16 cylinder engine for Mercedes.
- 19:19Fluge Motor Works.
- 19:20And there's a scene, it's in Mercedes.
- 19:22In fact, the aircraft back.
- 19:23He did design a 16 cylinder.
- 19:25And it had twin superchargers.
- 19:27It never left the bent, and you have to have the book on the Mercedes aircraft
- 19:31engines of World War II to know it.
- 19:33Wow.
- 19:34Everyone's gonna write me and say, oh, they wouldn't have done that.
- 19:37Oh, no, they did.
- 19:38Now, it was for a bomber, not a fighter.
- 19:40Fighters used to hot rod.
- 19:41You stick a big engine in a small airflame.
- 19:43It's the same thing as a car.
- 19:45Porsche cut his teeth on aircraft engines and cars.
- 19:48He was a dual genius in that area.
- 19:50He knew about aerodynamics enough.
- 19:52But, you know, in the book you'll see there's a U Boat section.
- 19:55The U Boat story has also a basis in fact, believe it or not.
- 20:00When you get to that, everyone's gonna think, they think
- 20:02Little Anton is this U Boat.
- 20:04No, it's a misleading thing.
- 20:05I'm ruining the whole book for you.
- 20:07No, no, no, no, I don't, I don't mind.
- 20:08I don't mind.
- 20:09There's so much in it, it doesn't matter.
- 20:11Portia did work on some of the diesels for the Schnell boats, you know, the PT boats.
- 20:17He had a hand in all that stuff.
- 20:18I think, uh, man, M A N, Machina Anschluss, Machina Fabrica.
- 20:24Which is owned by Volkswagen, so.
- 20:25Yeah, and he did have little pieces of that.
- 20:29And he was called in, you know, we've got a problem with this.
- 20:32And so his experimental engines on this U boat, I thought it was very clever.
- 20:36I put the after coolers.
- 20:37In the hull and they're chilled by seawater and that's why he's
- 20:40got three big diesels in there.
- 20:42And, and this u boat can go 30 knots on the surface and people will say, ah,
- 20:46and then there's some other technology that seems like science fiction.
- 20:49But I'm telling you, between you and me, uh, it's not the Germans were
- 20:53working on free energy, tooth and nail.
- 20:55Porsche didn't have anything to do with it.
- 20:57But in my new book, Walter Gerlach has everything to do with it and
- 21:00they sort of merge, you know, Porsche is not a physicist, Gerlach's not a
- 21:03mechanic, but they need each other.
- 21:05Yeah, yeah.
- 21:06It's an anti gravity airship run.
- 21:08I find that very interesting.
- 21:09The gearheads will go crazy for it, but it gets into torsion
- 21:12fields and electromagnetism, but it's all based on real technology.
- 21:15I'm not kidding.
- 21:16That's awesome.
- 21:17So when you read about that in the viewboat section, I debated
- 21:21whether or not I wanted to do it in this book, but I did it anyway.
- 21:24First of all, I wanted to distract the reader down a dead end alley.
- 21:28The little red herring, yeah, yeah.
- 21:30It is absolutely something they would have tested in a U boat, and they
- 21:34probably did at the very end of the war.
- 21:37The Type 21 U boat was this beautiful, modern prototype of what
- 21:41we call the Albacore tuna looking submarines that we'd still use today.
- 21:45It wasn't perfectly round, but it was very modern.
- 21:48And there's no evidence, but the historians I talked
- 21:51to, we're all in agreement.
- 21:52They probably tried to shoehorn that thing in there.
- 21:56Because you don't need diesels.
- 21:58Run on electric motors all the time.
- 22:00And unlimited range.
- 22:01And you can make your own oxygen and fresh water, like they do today in the
- 22:06USS John Warner, Virginia Classic, Texas.
- 22:08Must be nice to have a ship named after you, right?
- 22:11It was only a matter of time!
- 22:12I said to dad, I said, It's only a matter of time before they have a
- 22:14weapons system with Warner on it.
- 22:16He's like, yeah.
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