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The Art of Storytelling: Opie & Carl at Podcast Movement 2018 (Full Panel) · Opie & Carl

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  Speaker 2: Wait a second.
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  Speaker 6: You didn't really think that we weren't going to let
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  Speaker 6: you hear more from Opie, Carl and my awesome boss
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  Speaker 6: slightly by me so disregard to comments you here from
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  Speaker 6: Opi and Carl while the moderator or Tim speaks during
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  Speaker 6: this panel. It's Opie Radio in front of a large
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  Speaker 6: audience of podcasters in Philly at the twenty eighteen Podcast Movement. Enjoy,
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  Speaker 6: There's forms, Come on, this is way.
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  Speaker 8: This is your first podcast convention.
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  Speaker 1: It's very evident nobody's in.
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  Speaker 9: The history of the medium. His family is exploded.
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  Speaker 10: When he created Opi, Anay showed the nineteen ninety four
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  Speaker 10: which ran all the way in twenty fourteen and now.
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  Speaker 9: From two thousand and three to.
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  Speaker 10: Twenty seventeen, Opie was a significant and a kind of invisible.
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  Speaker 9: Personality on serious xcent and his current show with Westland
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  Speaker 9: One is called Opie Radio and it is wildly popular,
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  Speaker 9: as you know. You can find him on Twitter at
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  Speaker 9: Opie Radio.
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  Speaker 2: We Turn again and that's all the time They got
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  Speaker 2: fired from radio.
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  Speaker 11: All right, Hard Guys show.
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  Speaker 9: Also let Carl crack their own grants. Carl one guy
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  Speaker 9: sos three games which propelled him.
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  Speaker 10: Into food Networks, Startup and See How pre shows including
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  Speaker 10: a highlighted Old.
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  Speaker 9: Pressn on by Poriti, Sagars, Ridings and Dogs and Carl
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  Speaker 9: was a reticuling tributary, a series essent and currently works
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  Speaker 9: with his friend right here Obi on the west Wood One.
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  Speaker 9: Find Carl over on Twitter at Carl.
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  Speaker 10: Grows Say Ronald Mother, not your chances, pressure you guys.
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  Speaker 10: She's been tonnel stories and helping people tell her own
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  Speaker 10: stories over thirty years as an American family emericus. In
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  Speaker 10: the nineteen eighties and nineties, she was a fan of
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  Speaker 10: Therapist and in two thousand and one.
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  Speaker 9: She can develop in a team Ability, which is.
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  Speaker 10: The first tenology to described a brigade how people worked together.
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  Speaker 2: Factor Chance Believe.
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  Speaker 10: The Story of Dorty Story Final is an active approcreation
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  Speaker 10: between the storyteller and he pis find her on Twitter
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  Speaker 10: at b Chance where she's by.
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  Speaker 9: And our fourth person pan today is Tim Stadion. Guys.
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  Speaker 9: He is the senior vice president Official Content at Westwood One.
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  Speaker 10: I'm saying it's responsible for timent scuppering and content partnership development.
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  Speaker 9: Prior to the role saving was a serious x radio
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  Speaker 9: as well or you served as sc about Howard stern.
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  Speaker 10: Child's and was involved in all aspects of serious XM radio.
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  Speaker 2: If you'll hold that against it.
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  Speaker 10: Tim extensive career include mansion and supervisor and many a minute,
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  Speaker 10: many many radio shows, programs.
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  Speaker 9: Including wad you want to seem my hear in Philadelphia?
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  Speaker 12: I love that?
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  Speaker 11: If I don't on Twitter at the Sabian you guys,
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  Speaker 11: all right, let's get right to it, op, Yes, what have.
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  Speaker 10: You learned from storytelling? From telling them and also hearing them?
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  Speaker 13: Like?
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  Speaker 5: What do you love?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely nothing?
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  Speaker 9: Excellent?
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  Speaker 2: What did I learned? I guess I learned that you know,
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  Speaker 2: the stories are the ones very people correlate to it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's nobody mind.
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  Speaker 9: Does anybody stand out in your mind on your show?
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  Speaker 9: Who really stood out telling.
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  Speaker 2: A great story? I would say that the best storyteller
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  Speaker 2: I ever had on my radio show over the.
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  Speaker 1: Years, was Jim Roverer okay comedian, I totally tits made.
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  Speaker 3: Carlson, I know the storyteller, Yeah, je Jim Rower really
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  Speaker 3: knows how to tell a story and been a funny
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  Speaker 3: and they get very related.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just getting started. Actually we've only done about
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  Speaker 2: twenty episodes.
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  Speaker 9: You started today.
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  Speaker 12: Yes, as far as my podcasting goes, been a radio
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  Speaker 12: guy for like thirty years, and I'm learning how to
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  Speaker 12: take all that experience in radio and moving into the podcast, says,
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  Speaker 12: And it's a lot of fun so far.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's just.
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  Speaker 9: Great a story to tell them, he says, give me,
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  Speaker 9: give me your best story.
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  Speaker 2: Where do you go with I like telling family stories.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just stories that I'm growing up and living in
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  Speaker 1: a pretty crazy household when sending kids, no.
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  Speaker 3: Kids with a crazy mother? And yeah, what you do
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  Speaker 3: on the second holds second holder?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so are your brothers.
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  Speaker 12: Radio?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Better pay their bills?
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  Speaker 9: The same question. What if you learned over the years
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  Speaker 9: from I want to telling stories stories?
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  Speaker 12: Well?
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  Speaker 14: As a chef, I mean, recipes are stories for us, right,
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  Speaker 14: so for me to teach people how to cook properly
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  Speaker 14: in my restaurants or whatever, I have to tell them
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  Speaker 14: the why, how, where it came from.
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  Speaker 15: So I've been telling stories food related. You know, if
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  Speaker 15: people don't fall in love with the recipe, they're.
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  Speaker 2: Not going to do it right.
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  Speaker 5: So you know that's the way that I tell stories.
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  Speaker 5: I kind of break them down and make you make
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  Speaker 5: you love what I love and them we're good.
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  Speaker 2: Is there anybody who can teach most people? Most people
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  Speaker 2: because they're scared to love things.
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  Speaker 5: They really are. Most people are scared to really invest
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  Speaker 5: in something one hundred percent to make it great.
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  Speaker 4: And going with Carl's point, you ask a passion behind
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  Speaker 4: your story, teller, and then that gets a list of
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  Speaker 4: very involved something to do, of course, but.
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  Speaker 2: Why teller doesn't have any passion.
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  Speaker 1: That which goes to what he's talking about, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: Carl's a chef and loves cooking and preparing food and
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  Speaker 1: drink and drinking, and then it comes across as a
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  Speaker 1: final prop right.
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  Speaker 10: So just to the two of you that have already
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  Speaker 10: talked to, let me ask you, when somebody is coming
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  Speaker 10: on your show, do you give some guidelines?
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  Speaker 9: Could you do you tell them? I want to hear
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  Speaker 9: your story?
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  Speaker 15: What do you what do you tell yours I think
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  Speaker 15: it depends upon what he wants to abuse them or
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  Speaker 15: wants to actually be friends with them.
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  Speaker 5: I mean there's different guests. There's sometimes they're there they
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  Speaker 5: of the joke, you know, sometimes they're part of the joke.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I gotta explain that though. I mean, when you're
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  Speaker 2: in the broadcast media, you know, there's there's people that come.
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  Speaker 3: In and they just want to sell their last movie
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  Speaker 3: and lace book whatever what have you. And then you know,
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  Speaker 3: ways are seeing helping make the show there and I
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  Speaker 3: never had tolerance.
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  Speaker 2: And then and then you get the people that come
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  Speaker 2: in and they you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, they understand they're in a pretty cool, open environment
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  Speaker 3: with no real rules.
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  Speaker 1: I don't tell them what they can't pay say, And
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  Speaker 1: those tend to be the best guess of my radio
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  Speaker 1: show and now on my podcast.
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  Speaker 10: So here's a question of we having ever recorded with
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  Speaker 10: someone and they just didn't form the way you.
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  Speaker 9: Wanted them to and you did not parasite she did
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  Speaker 9: not perform the what you wanted her to.
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  Speaker 2: No, so you didn't hear the episode?
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  Speaker 5: No, I mean it was online radio.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I started a podcasts, So I'm really picking
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  Speaker 2: the people that I know. Are you know a good
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  Speaker 2: storytellers is a good guests.
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  Speaker 1: But when it comes to radio, I found over the
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  Speaker 1: years that a lot of the Eight Usters were terrible
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  Speaker 1: storytellers because they are very protective.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't want to see to how radios.
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  Speaker 1: You know, because that would hurt their bottom line or
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  Speaker 1: their their products. And I found everyday people way more, way.
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  Speaker 8: More fascinating, and a lot of the Eight Usters that
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  Speaker 8: came from the studio doors interesting.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, But a lot of times when those people, especially
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  Speaker 10: the Austries are coming.
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  Speaker 11: Through, they kind of have you know, they don't even
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  Speaker 11: know what they want to talk about, which is trouble
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  Speaker 11: and they're upcoming the project.
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  Speaker 2: They've literally trubled talking points. And you know, we were
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  Speaker 2: lunching because back at the day they would go over
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  Speaker 2: and Regis and Kelly and then you know, Kelly and
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  Speaker 2: whatever it is now, and they would do the exact
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  Speaker 2: same interview on our show, and I'm like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: screw that, let's let's let's try to get some real
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  Speaker 2: stuff going on.
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  Speaker 1: But no matter what question asked them, they were able
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  Speaker 1: to bring it back.
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  Speaker 2: To their talking points for the day that some publicity today.
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  Speaker 1: Which is really one of the biggest disappointments is doing
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  Speaker 1: a popular radio show because you assume, if you're a
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  Speaker 1: celebrity and you're in the spotlight that you could just
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  Speaker 1: simply no, just yeah and riff with hopefully funny and
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  Speaker 1: interesting people.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah interesting, Okay, doctor Chanis Prester, you are amazing and
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  Speaker 9: many last night.
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  Speaker 10: I know so much GIF stuff to stay. So tell
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  Speaker 10: me about your trajectory and podcasting, and then also tell
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  Speaker 10: us about your story, your storytelling experience and.
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  Speaker 9: Intelligent good story and period a good story. What the
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  Speaker 9: fans up?
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  Speaker 16: That's a lot.
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  Speaker 17: So I'm obviously the always tell I've never been professional
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  Speaker 17: in broadcasting, but I.
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  Speaker 2: Have a guesting of this so a long time.
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  Speaker 17: And what I was saying about this, I realized I
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  Speaker 17: really got my snort as a lisser.
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  Speaker 9: To broadcast radio. So if you don't know if sitting
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  Speaker 9: into this room is one of my over.
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  Speaker 2: Here, very wow.
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  Speaker 9: The view with the leader who girl who would tells
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  Speaker 9: is plays?
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  Speaker 2: And then when I see it said, joined it up.
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  Speaker 2: I can have consorts.
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  Speaker 9: And so when you have that, say, learned to be
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  Speaker 9: a storyteller.
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  Speaker 2: And when I get a worshal.
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  Speaker 9: We're going to talk about a movement.
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  Speaker 5: What's that meat?
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  Speaker 7: To walk after me.
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  Speaker 2: I heard.
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  Speaker 9: Spare fish.
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  Speaker 2: If that does not excited you, then you.
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  Speaker 5: America feel.
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  Speaker 9: You are clear, sir. It's just unbelievable.
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  Speaker 17: You kind have done it all.
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  Speaker 9: You've seen it all. Just an amazing wealth of of
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  Speaker 9: of of stories that you've heard.
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  Speaker 18: And so.
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  Speaker 10: Let me ask you when you because you you don't
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  Speaker 10: host speaking right, if you're a producer, you're on the suits.
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  Speaker 2: I host my wife.
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  Speaker 9: We're not going to be studio shown this podcasts. What's
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  Speaker 9: the one? How a storytime committed that.
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  Speaker 8: First of all, Westwood One loves podcasts. Giving yourself the
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  Speaker 8: hand because you are all pioneers in this room.
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  Speaker 2: People that are stepped out. It is a great unknown
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  Speaker 2: and this has been quite a story what has happened.
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  Speaker 13: And transpired over the last few years in this in
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  Speaker 13: the Suite Space podcast seeing as well known, he's a
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  Speaker 13: destructive movement that has taken on for Wrestler Radio and
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  Speaker 13: it is.
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  Speaker 2: An incredible, incredible opportunity for all the people in this.
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  Speaker 8: Room and the stories that come out of it and
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  Speaker 8: just being each and every one of you, it's been
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  Speaker 8: just absolutely amazing. Like we have the guys who are
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  Speaker 8: eighty three weeks Tolrad Thompson, who's the podcast on our platform, Ruce.
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  Speaker 2: Scripcher, who's that some people Wrestle of the back of
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  Speaker 2: the room here the Game of the Year, which is.
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  Speaker 8: Incredible, Philadelphia Idea, Daddy sawback.
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  Speaker 19: And then also Opie and Carl had created a sensation
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  Speaker 19: on the internet with their podcast and the stories that
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  Speaker 19: they bring with them and that we work with on
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  Speaker 19: a data basis are absolutely amazing, and it's giving and distracting.
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  Speaker 8: This information and putting this content on these podcasts and
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  Speaker 8: it's just a great way.
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  Speaker 2: On thy seven.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, well I started that.
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  Speaker 2: I did lay in the house. It was an interesting
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  Speaker 2: part of a lot of.
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  Speaker 20: People were ruling and it was like litles thirty some
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  Speaker 20: years of take in a room and I saw this
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  Speaker 20: up and we were starting to produce and edit and
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  Speaker 20: create content and pathos and we were really podcasting, you know,
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  Speaker 20: ten fifteen years ago and kind of started this whole
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  Speaker 20: thing and we didn't even know what.
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  Speaker 2: We were doing. But now, let's see where to say
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  Speaker 2: to wife spread So it's it's been a really urn.
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  Speaker 9: We're going any podcast. Do you think there's a sweet
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  Speaker 9: spot in the pliny of a podcast?
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  Speaker 2: I think that's not a storytelling put it's seagull seats
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  Speaker 2: that are best. Don't waste my time. And as long
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  Speaker 2: as there's great information, there's if we had it in
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  Speaker 2: a way that has to get in the middle of
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  Speaker 2: an into it.
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  Speaker 8: I think that you know it along for four hours.
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  Speaker 8: There are podcasts that are four hours that are very interesting.
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  Speaker 8: There's podcasts that belong to ten minutes. It's just still't
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  Speaker 8: waste my time. I think that's a very very true,
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  Speaker 8: true safement from Seaquels.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with that, don't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just gonna take Tenny said, that's the d said.
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  Speaker 1: I'm ar you tream radio and podcasting that you got
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  Speaker 1: to make sure every word counts.
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  Speaker 2: You know, when you do it on a talk show,
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  Speaker 2: they end to day.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you always will allow and accept you to
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  Speaker 1: just kind of settle in and find sweet sauce.
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  Speaker 3: But if podcasting, man, if you're not if you're not
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  Speaker 3: hitting all cylinders within the first few minutes, they're gone.
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  Speaker 9: So you have produce your of course, But in addition,
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  Speaker 9: what do you do to prepare for your shows.
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  Speaker 2: For the podcast. Yeah, it's very different than a.
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  Speaker 1: Radio shop, where I didn't sound fascinate, you know, doing
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  Speaker 1: radio when the mic was on, it was one thing,
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  Speaker 1: but a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of these interesting people that came through, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: self they.
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  Speaker 8: Were doing saying when the mics were off during commercial
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  Speaker 8: grades before they came on the air, and then after
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  Speaker 8: the mics went off was just as interesting.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm trying with my new podcast to kind of
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  Speaker 2: take a lot of that sloight that on on the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that so, I mean, you know a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times it's being Carlo's walking the streets and.
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  Speaker 2: Seeing what we can come up with.
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  Speaker 9: So, carl what is this meaning? Storytelling is like a recipe?
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  Speaker 9: What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 14: Well, it has an end result, right, So a recipe
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  Speaker 14: has an end result, something delicious comes from, and a
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  Speaker 14: story is the same exact thing.
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  Speaker 5: But you have to be invested and you want to
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  Speaker 5: have to cook it and you want to have to
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  Speaker 5: listen to it.
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  Speaker 16: But the recipe and so stories failed most of the time.
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  Speaker 16: Have you heard some stories out there? I heard something
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  Speaker 16: that was great. It was a little story. It took
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  Speaker 16: me away from.
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  Speaker 5: Whatever I was thinking about the beginning of middle and then.
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  Speaker 16: Just right, because when you're cooking with somebody or you're
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  Speaker 16: teaching somebody something, you gotta make them.
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  Speaker 5: You gotta have them invest in, right, So I tell them, hey, listen,
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  Speaker 5: we're gonna make this steak. This is from the north
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  Speaker 5: of France, and we're using this butter. And they get
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  Speaker 5: into it instead of me just showing up like this
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  Speaker 5: is what we're doing. They're not gonna love it. They're
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  Speaker 5: gonna burn it. They're not gonna care. No, I don't
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  Speaker 5: have a home to.
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  Speaker 14: You before define these are.
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  Speaker 3: Just bringing us all all the way around. And I
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  Speaker 3: decided to start my podcasting career. The first podcast he
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  Speaker 3: did was Carl's Creepy Cabin.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's where he pleaded the day is still
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  Speaker 2: live actively living in a cabin.
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  Speaker 5: I killed bugs seventy percent a day. I'm killing bucks.
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  Speaker 5: I'm really that. I I have network contracts coming up,
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: so my be ten six.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Elevator. Okay, it's really moving off. Yeah, which I heard point,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: you know, going back to what I said earlier, the.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Radular podcasts are kind of very infascinating, and the things
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: I'm learning about podcasting that's kind.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Of important is to be a fly on the wall.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: The listeners really want to be a fly on the wall. Uh,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: you have to be more infocant and and relatable.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: I gotta I agree with opia. You know, when you
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: do TV and.
• 18:02
  Speaker 16: And I run into someone that knows me from TV,
• 18:04
  Speaker 16: they just know, like a little bike like they'll say,
• 18:06
  Speaker 16: oh I ne screams Broctoly, you know, like what the
• 18:09
  Speaker 16: hell does that even mean?
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: And then regular radio they kind of know you. But
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: podcasting is the most.
• 18:16
  Speaker 14: Intimate thing I've had people come and give me hugs
• 18:18
  Speaker 14: and talk to me like.
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: It's almost like they knew me, or they were like
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: family almost.
• 18:23
  Speaker 13: It was.
• 18:23
  Speaker 16: It was striking to me coming from other medias to
• 18:26
  Speaker 16: know people knew they listened so well.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Remember when I was a kid.
• 18:35
  Speaker 8: Strings on the top of the room and listen to
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: like Hey don't Why Little Rock as.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: The wolf Jack Show. I felt an a cliation and
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: association with these people because late at night it was
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: what I want. It was very, very unique.
• 18:53
  Speaker 8: It was seeing certains now with podcasting us, it's the
• 18:57
  Speaker 8: similar to the same type of when I was a
• 19:00
  Speaker 8: kid growing not even getting acclimated to radio.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I see podcasters first.
• 19:05
  Speaker 8: Of all, if you're going to be pulling this content
• 19:07
  Speaker 8: of your life because you feel some affiliation.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: With it, you can feel some kind of connection to it.
• 19:13
  Speaker 8: And so that's part from one under two is is
• 19:16
  Speaker 8: that if people like Carlo and Obie when I listen
• 19:19
  Speaker 8: to their shows, or I listened to eighty.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Three Weeks, or I don't listen to other podcasts on
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: our platform, I feel some kind of connection there. I
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: feel like I'm getting the problem with them.
• 19:29
  Speaker 8: And that's why when we talk to our podcasters, we
• 19:32
  Speaker 8: ask them, you know, what association do you have with advertisers?
• 19:36
  Speaker 8: What you know the products do you use on a
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: data basis, because we don't want them to sell or
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: just talk about products that.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: They don't feel that their heart is right for them
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: or right for their audience.
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: And that's the connection the power of being authentic and
• 19:49
  Speaker 8: real and honest that podcast brings to consumers today.
• 19:53
  Speaker 10: But also I feel like, you know, to the point
• 19:55
  Speaker 10: that they feel so close to you, because I feel
• 19:57
  Speaker 10: like people are listening to podcasts and very and waits,
• 20:01
  Speaker 10: you know, they're like that at not they're running hype
• 20:03
  Speaker 10: people or whatever they're doing.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, sorry, yeah, Well, in technology is such that
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: you know, you can hear every single word of the
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: podcast is also thing.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: And to answer this question, and I think it comes
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: down simply to the fact that people choose you when.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: You when you're part of the big radio show, people
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: don't necessarily choose you. Sometimes we just background h noise.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: They kind of know who you are. If they even
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: meet them and they're like, I'm a huge fan, and
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: you ask them, you know, way way they like that,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: they don't even have an answer for that.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: But when we run into our listeners from the podcast world,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: which like I said, once again.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: We're really new to right, these people know every.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Single word and they're picking up on everything, and they're
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: you know, and they're they're kind of really.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Digested to these episodes very very slowly, and they're a
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: saving on them, which I.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: It's it's it's such a different world to you. So
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: many to me say, which I really thought was a
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: great observation.
• 20:59
  Speaker 8: It's an argy kind of compatible platform, you know, la
• 21:03
  Speaker 8: be heighty blocking, So it's a companion piece, and it
• 21:06
  Speaker 8: really podcastings become a companionship with the consumer, with between
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: performer and consumer, and it's a much tighter bond than
• 21:15
  Speaker 8: than anything that actually want a radio interrestrial radio or
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: you know, Toupision show or so forth.
• 21:20
  Speaker 10: How do you get out of your guest a story
• 21:23
  Speaker 10: rather than their life story.
• 21:25
  Speaker 9: In other words, who can who can encapsulate our life?
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: The one thing that I have found, Beau, is that
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: these guys sell into the interviews.
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: They need conversations, And I think there's a big difference
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: between sitting down and when they were on a terrestal
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: radio show brought in a guess they did an interview,
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: where these are more conversations, they're more incident, they're more direct.
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: There there son implied about it about that being in
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: the environment that they're in when they be captured these
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: performances that they're just performed differently than they were when
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: they were interrestrial radio.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Well, they are people comfortable, whether it's the atmosphere.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: There in Sometimes as simple as asking them how how's
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: your day on the right and it tolls them all
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: far a little bit.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: You know, you're not hitting any with that first headed question.
• 22:11
  Speaker 14: It's like, man, how was it going?
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: How's your sun going?
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: And they tend to take a deep breath and relax
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: and settle in and then uh, you know, you just
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: like like ten percent and try to have a conversation.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: But when I prepare for you know, I don't want
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: to call them an interview. You're talking to somebody.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I just have a few basic bullet points and then
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: in my mind I'm like, okay, I want to hit
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: these four or five bullet points and whatever else happens
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: in there where they just focus.
• 22:38
  Speaker 10: You don't understand what they how they respond to you,
• 22:41
  Speaker 10: and the auser that the audiences at.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Home didn't either, So it's just heading.
• 22:44
  Speaker 9: The hell of that. You get get the reiavat, tell
• 22:48
  Speaker 9: them a different web.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Oh sure, yeah, exactly. One of the big swos, like
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: a terrestial radio.
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: There's a lot of these synergies or showbok kind of
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: set up are set up because of phase.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: There's an advertising boy or.
• 23:00
  Speaker 8: There's their mandated to the talent, and the talent has
• 23:03
  Speaker 8: zero connections to the interview. For example, at the end
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: they OBI had on Robert Ordeal, who was the guy
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: that's just down the blotting, and you can see a
• 23:12
  Speaker 8: januine connection and a januine interest in this what the.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Sid you're saying? And it was and listened to that
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: podcast was so powerful.
• 23:20
  Speaker 8: It's just a conversation back and forth, and you can
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: tell when an interviewer is really involved into the conversation
• 23:28
  Speaker 8: because they listen.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Harder you know, and listening to keep mark to it,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: and you can.
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: See what an interview is really doing a job, and
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: he's really really listening.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no one, I was good fun that one, the
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: first one you're talking about. It was mode in the
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Bison yet summer. It was about fruity drains always other stuff.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: And then I wish you would a got a little
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: too in a little fast yeah.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: And then in my mind I'm like, wow, I read
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: out fifteen twenty minutes and stuff, and now we're finally
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: going to go into.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: The the actual story over hitting do know something a lot?
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: But I do?
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: And then circumstance set the pressures on Hi because he
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: sold the story so many times. So you also try,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: you try, I mean you don't you know, accomplish it
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: every time, and you try to get you know, a
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: different version of the stories and different yes, knowing that
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: they're doing everyone else's or anyone else in radio show?
• 24:21
  Speaker 9: Do you listen to your guests ahead of time? I like,
• 24:23
  Speaker 9: for instance, that story, No, did you ever hear him
• 24:26
  Speaker 9: tell that story before?
• 24:27
  Speaker 12: Well?
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Holding up my radio show? So I now offer the
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: podcast because I'm making beree. I never heard the story before? Right, Yeah?
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Better questions. Yeah, I hope, so it all.
• 24:39
  Speaker 15: OPI prepares, he's a he's a natural talent. I mean,
• 24:44
  Speaker 15: I've done a lot of interviews with other media stuff. Hope,
• 24:48
  Speaker 15: he's I mean, he's one of the best. I mean,
• 24:50
  Speaker 15: it's it's it looks after less.
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: But when I try to do what it's it's a
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: complete Jaws of life car accident.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: When I try to do what he does, I'd rather
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: take fun of you.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: People on the sidelines. It's easier, no accountability.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: It's what I want to do is I prepare a lot.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: Then when I can, that's.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: That's when I get you.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: But he knows how I have a conversation, like if
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: you if I have a conversation with someone, it will
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: just ramble on like a flood, not like a river.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: It will just go everywhere. Whatn't make any sense?
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: Op.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: He knows how to bring the story back. He knows
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: how to reel in the g R. Yeah, well we're
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: not making stakes with these people, like we're talking with him.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: And that's what he's He's just a natural talent. It's
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: it's impressive to be part of it. I mean sometimes
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: difficult sometimes because he's not bad.
• 25:44
  Speaker 21: He's a good kid.
• 25:50
  Speaker 9: That's gonna take a while.
• 26:00
  Speaker 21: Right then you think it's times that was then quite
• 26:06
  Speaker 21: for Opie said, he said it several times.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you gottably who is a celebrity is something
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: you want know? And he told the story then times
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: And you don't want them to sound canning. How do
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: you how do you get to sound different than they
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: were on other need I don't think there's a formula
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: to that. I think you just try to You just
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: try to hit it from other angles.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: You try to make them comfortable, You try to catch
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: them all car. You try to make sure they relax.
• 26:43
  Speaker 22: And one of the things too is like at Westwood
• 26:46
  Speaker 22: at Westwood one on the podcast networks over probably a
• 26:51
  Speaker 22: quarter of a billion people on a weekly basis, And
• 26:53
  Speaker 22: the thing is that you want to identify unique people.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: You need talent like Opie a Car that are had the.
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: Ability to ask questions in such a way they perform
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: things directly.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Than somebody else.
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: And that's the uniqueness and the actributes that we find
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: interesting about having people like this in eighty few weeks
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: and then share all the other ones that we have
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: on Jericho and all this kind of stuff on our
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: podcasting platform because these are unique people that have unique
• 27:22
  Speaker 8: ability to do things differently.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: If I had to say, a guest on each.
• 27:26
  Speaker 8: Show, each side would do in a different way the
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: stories that they're going to give a story in a different.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: About I'm trying to answer to that question that's does
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: anyone I'm an answer to that because oh seean here's John's.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: So I think the difference is that when a guest
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: comes on who's been on in a number of different places,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: what you automatically do that nobody.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Else does a should make them laugh, right, they're laughing
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: when the minutes start having a great time. They're telling
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: stories about themselves.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: That they've not told anybody else, and therefore the answers
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: you get are completely different from what.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Has been thank you all right? So John's point, Gay,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: you try to make them let their guard down and
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: then they will open up a little more.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: So I think it comes down to trying to make
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: advents as comfortable as possible in the atmosphere and hopefully
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: they trust you.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: They trust the Bob too, and they feel like they're
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: in a new space and a lot of times they're
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: willing to, you know, tell you a little more because
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: they want to tell the listening themselves.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Gonna take another question, but.
• 28:44
  Speaker 9: Him an Holi has things to show with Paul, how
• 28:46
  Speaker 9: I grow this and it's about some more basic mistakes
• 28:49
  Speaker 9: that we make in our personal lives and career. And
• 28:53
  Speaker 9: I think this is great oneerful people like they might
• 28:55
  Speaker 9: have around the area. And this is sort of probably
• 28:59
  Speaker 9: it's the last question, But I talked to you.
• 29:02
  Speaker 10: About crucial mistakes and personal life business and I can
• 29:06
  Speaker 10: say all day, I have all.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: The time of the world.
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: But one of the people's the mayor.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Amost Grabber girl, Basyful document Ali day. They're running life
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: in the business.
• 29:16
  Speaker 9: So I'm gonna ask how you to do so many
• 29:19
  Speaker 9: people up to open.
• 29:20
  Speaker 23: Up about something really personal quickly because they might have
• 29:25
  Speaker 23: a shorter time during the night.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: Out alcohol or skinned.
• 29:31
  Speaker 17: They're gonna as to really really like you very quickly
• 29:36
  Speaker 17: and they see all positions like that, but they may
• 29:39
  Speaker 17: not before I'm sitting.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: In my care for you.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Why it's in that's the talking.
• 29:44
  Speaker 23: Very talk to me before you actually need the interview
• 29:48
  Speaker 23: with the guests, getting them to do a pre interview
• 29:51
  Speaker 23: and try to do some boss setting before man to
• 29:54
  Speaker 23: find out a Twitter side are goings and get them
• 29:56
  Speaker 23: to talk about certain things or eighty half.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: A produce should talk to them to you know, somebody
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: would have maybe a little different tact and getting that
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: information for you as you with the final performance. So
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: there are ways. But also I think it's always point two.
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: It's like, how are you need to proud da He
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: sat there talking to Broader being about you know, this
• 30:17
  Speaker 8: sat and the other thing, and it gets to them
• 30:19
  Speaker 8: a lot organically evolved into that because of discomfort zone
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: and not because it's.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: All be led into it right away. It just organically.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: So it's you know, you've got to eas.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: A rule, and I think that there are tools that
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: you can apply that will help you get.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: The results anything.
• 30:36
  Speaker 8: And it's so one of those, you know, a free interview,
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: the next one of the maybe having.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: That producers doing for you doing the three interview. Maybe
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: it's uh, you know, you warping out to them in
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: nice car points out, I'll always be always wearing at
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: your time, you know, So I got it, I did say.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: But I think that's almost as possible if you're looking
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: for that quickly, because that's.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: The times of shows.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: If you show us on the human nation, we're all
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: very very guard and it takes a walk, It takes
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: a lot for you'll open up.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: It goes back to that that trust thing.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: But to get there quickly, I don't, I honestly don't
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: know how you do that.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, the best stuff I've gotten over the years
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: is that you're talking to a guy for sorry, for like.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: An hour, an hour and a half, and then finally.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: The last five minutes of all the juicy stuff because
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: they finally feel comfortable enough and to trust you, and
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: and and they want to they obviously want to tell
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: you this this deep dark story or whatever.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: But you know, it just takes a long time, a
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: head day. I don't think you can do it.
• 31:36
  Speaker 9: Okay, I have, unfortunately, have one more question.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: All yeah, I have a question. How do you go
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: from radio podcasting going interviews. You're kind of stop when
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: you're calling a story or a podcast or radio if
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: a listener calls up a cussion, this sucks, and you know,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: to real, how are you competing your story? You're letting
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: it go.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: That person just.
• 31:57
  Speaker 16: Tweets now that you stuck, it's actually faster and it's
• 32:02
  Speaker 16: more effective.
• 32:05
  Speaker 18: It comes out of I mean, I had my podcast
• 32:10
  Speaker 18: a lot because we wanted to sound as naturally as possible,
• 32:14
  Speaker 18: but you know the beauty of podcasts, and you know,
• 32:17
  Speaker 18: you record here to your podcasts, and we got depending
• 32:20
  Speaker 18: on what was said of this in our kid until
• 32:22
  Speaker 18: we sometimes before this thing goes out, and we had
• 32:25
  Speaker 18: it in such a way that it sounds still like
• 32:27
  Speaker 18: a natural conversation, so you're able to get all that.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Crap out of there.
• 32:31
  Speaker 16: One thing that I learned from Opie was when we
• 32:34
  Speaker 16: did our first podcast, he said to me, I'm gonna make.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: This thing smoke. Where I come from, that's a whole
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: another animal, right, So I'm like, what does that mean?
• 32:42
  Speaker 15: But he he literally meticulously goes through it and seeds
• 32:46
  Speaker 15: it up just a little bit and it changes everything.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: And it blew my mind. Even though I was part
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: of the podcast. I mean I did have a couple
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: of drinks, so I forgot it was a little foggy.
• 32:56
  Speaker 16: But at the end it was like a completely different
• 32:59
  Speaker 16: conversation and be plays a part of it, and it's
• 33:02
  Speaker 16: and an editing thing that I've seen.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: And Joey from west I mean, Westwood Londs is pretty company.
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: I mean, they're their support is fantastic, But.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: I kind of prayers.
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: That really helps.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Again, people, we go back and forth in the post production.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: To Carl's point, you know, I edit on spaces and
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: all sorts of stuff, but.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: We gotta make sure it's still sounds naturally because you know,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: the podcasts been learning that too.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Man, they're like, oh it was ed see you not
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: in their head?
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're really really stunt. Gotta be smarter than them.
• 33:32
  Speaker 14: And it comes to the idea there's a there's a
• 33:34
  Speaker 14: higher percentage of nerds listening to podcasts. I don't want
• 33:38
  Speaker 14: of nerd friends now, Like Okayanna, trying to do this yourself.
• 33:43
  Speaker 9: Just ask yourself the question you have enough people who
• 33:45
  Speaker 9: love you enough to listen to.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: It and then tell you the truth and not just
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: you know you probably and.
• 33:52
  Speaker 17: Sometimes you said, Joe, something sorrow lower and because Andy's
• 33:56
  Speaker 17: not going to fix you know, then it grow and
• 33:59
  Speaker 17: get any confessional light anyway, which is.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: And be smart enough to just throw the whole thing
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: in the garbage. You know, you will like to hear
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: a sell fox and sometimes you're like, oh man, this
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: is good.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I think it is, you know, but you gotta you
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: gotta be honest with yourself sometimes and go a while,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: that just suck.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna dump it and you know, try again.