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The Kenny Report | 31 March · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me.
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  Speaker 2: The phony campaign is over and we're full throttle on
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  Speaker 2: election twenty twenty five. It's been cheap tricks and game
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  Speaker 2: playing so far, and Anthony Albernizi has delivered the first.
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  Speaker 1: Major campaign gaff. The polls are neck and neck with
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  Speaker 1: labor picking up ground.
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  Speaker 2: I'll get the latest from polling analyst John Black and
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  Speaker 2: Liberal Senator Dave Sharma.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll join the liberal candidate on.
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  Speaker 2: The hustings in the crucial seat of Paramatta. Also, Hummas
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  Speaker 2: has hit back with a vengeance at the protesters in
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  Speaker 2: Gaza as the anti Israel mob dish out the hatred
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  Speaker 2: back here. News Corps Europe correspondent Sophie Elsworth joins us
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  Speaker 2: to talk about the latest Shane warn scandal from beyond
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  Speaker 2: the Grave and on the election, the campaign and everything.
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  Speaker 1: Caroline de Russo and Jemma ton Yuni will join me.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get cracking.
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  Speaker 2: This is our first campaign edition of the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 2: The polls are neck and neck. We've had our first
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  Speaker 2: campaign stuff up and there's plenty happening, so let's get
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  Speaker 2: into it. First up, the calling of the election on
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  Speaker 2: Friday morning. We expected it, but make no mistake that
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  Speaker 2: was unusual timing and cheap politics. That was the Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister using the power of his office to try to
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  Speaker 2: drown out the opposition leader's budget. In reply, Labour's budget
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  Speaker 2: promised a seventy cent a day tax cut for the
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  Speaker 2: middle of twenty twenty six, and then Peter Dutton unveiled
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  Speaker 2: his immediate halving of petrol excise on Thursday night in
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  Speaker 2: his speech. So Albanez he timed his run to the
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  Speaker 2: Governor General's residence and his opening press conference early on
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  Speaker 2: Friday in a deliberate bit of cheap poler kicking politicking
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  Speaker 2: to try to drown out the coalition's petrol tax message
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  Speaker 2: that might tell you a bit about which tax cut
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  Speaker 2: plan is a better sell. And on Saturday, more cheap
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  Speaker 2: politics from Anthony Albanizi flying off to Queensland and the
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  Speaker 2: opposition leader's seat, pretending this is a seat Labour can win,
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  Speaker 2: instead of focusing on real target seats and real issues.
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  Speaker 1: So the signs are there early.
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  Speaker 2: This campaign will be ugly, with little substance and plenty
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  Speaker 2: of cheap shots. Even the choice of election date plays
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  Speaker 2: into this. The May the third poll means a couple
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  Speaker 2: of weeks of school holidays, the Easter break and the
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  Speaker 2: ANZAC day Long weekend right up to the pole, and
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  Speaker 2: they'll provide plenty of distractions, which is exactly.
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  Speaker 1: What Labor wants.
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  Speaker 2: It wants as little debate and scrutiny as possible. Even
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  Speaker 2: Labour's major announcement on Sunday about so called price gouging
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  Speaker 2: laws aimed at supermarkets was just another stunt. The a
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  Speaker 2: Triple se just completed a full review of supermarket pricing
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  Speaker 2: and anti gouging laws.
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  Speaker 1: Haven't worked overseas, so.
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  Speaker 2: This was just words, just Labor pretending they can push
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  Speaker 2: prices lower.
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  Speaker 3: Price gouging is when supermarkets are taking the piss off
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  Speaker 3: Australian consumers.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it is.
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  Speaker 3: That's what price gouging is. Everyone out there knows, consumers
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  Speaker 3: know will take action.
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  Speaker 2: Well, none of us want our kids talking like that,
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  Speaker 2: so the Prime Minister, I don't know. The point here though,
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  Speaker 2: is that to get the cost of living down, including
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to food production and distribution and retailing
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  Speaker 2: through small businesses and large supermarket chains. One input the
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  Speaker 2: government could help with is electricity prices. Labour's broken promise
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  Speaker 2: on power. Its skyrocketing power prices are directly pushing costs
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  Speaker 2: and prices higher. But after promising two hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 2: five dollars power bill cuts last time around Albanez he
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  Speaker 2: can't even bring himself to admit that power prices will
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  Speaker 2: make another huge jump upwards when his taxpayer funded rebates
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  Speaker 2: run out at Christmas, the prices go up.
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  Speaker 3: When we've dealt with that in a in a practical
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  Speaker 3: way where you and what I'm saying to you, David,
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  Speaker 3: is that that energy price is in part are connected
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  Speaker 3: with what happens in the globe. What we are doing
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  Speaker 3: is providing that support for every household and every small business.
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  Speaker 4: So if that international pressure is still there, you might
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  Speaker 4: have to extend the rebate beyond this year.
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  Speaker 3: Well, no, what we do is we focus on the
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  Speaker 3: budget on immediate needs.
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  Speaker 1: Power prices are key in this contest.
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  Speaker 2: And while most of the media gave Labor an unquestioning
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  Speaker 2: run on this ridiculous promise last time.
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  Speaker 3: Reducing power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars
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  Speaker 3: and seventy five dollars a year, there'll be reduction for
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  Speaker 3: households of two hundred and seventy five dollars and.
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  Speaker 2: As expected, Labour's mol billion dollar roll out of renewables
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  Speaker 2: and transmission lines and batteries, it's only sent prices up
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  Speaker 2: and reliability down, and they reckon the way to fix
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  Speaker 2: this this time is more of the same.
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  Speaker 4: A party of government which believes in climate change, believes
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  Speaker 4: is real, and believes action is necessary and also to
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  Speaker 4: reduce prices and to see more of the cheaper, more
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  Speaker 4: reliable energy in the grid.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely delusional, cannot help the climate and cannot get prices down.
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  Speaker 2: He actually says renewables are cheap and reliable. He's like
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  Speaker 2: comical RL anyway, if that's what Labor is doing. We've
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  Speaker 2: seen that movie before, so we know prices are going
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  Speaker 2: to keep going up, which is why the coalition's gas
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  Speaker 2: reservation policy is aimed at more gas, cheaper gas, and
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  Speaker 2: therefore cheaper electricity.
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  Speaker 1: There are two offerings at the next election, Andrew.
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  Speaker 5: One is from the government, which is guaranteeing you that
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  Speaker 5: electricity prices.
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  Speaker 1: Will go higher if Labour's re elected. Right, let's be
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  Speaker 1: clear about that.
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  Speaker 5: Electricity and gas is up by thirty two and thirty
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  Speaker 5: four percent. Now, mister Albanesi's plan promises Australians that they
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  Speaker 5: will pay more for electricity and gas after the election.
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  Speaker 5: Our plan, which is to create an East Coast Reserve,
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  Speaker 5: brings more gas into the system.
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  Speaker 2: This is the critical battleground and Labour can hardly dismiss
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  Speaker 2: cheaper gas as a solution because they've blamed their price
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  Speaker 2: rises on expensive gas. So remember those five big questions
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  Speaker 2: for the election. Let's go through them quickly again. Are
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  Speaker 2: you better or worse off after three years of Albanizi?
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  Speaker 2: Has Labor secured the power grid and cut prices or
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  Speaker 2: made things worse? Is Labor constraining government spending, public service
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  Speaker 2: numbers and union power. Have they got the country's security,
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  Speaker 2: defense and immigration programs under control? And have they taken responsibility?
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  Speaker 2: Because none of their ministers will turn up here to
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  Speaker 2: discuss their plans. People often say that elections can change
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  Speaker 2: the country. The last one did for the worse, and
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  Speaker 2: that's why this one is so important. This is not
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  Speaker 2: a choice between a bad Albanesi Labor government and a
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  Speaker 2: new coalition government. This is a choice between the coalition
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  Speaker 2: and an Albanzi second term that would be even worse
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  Speaker 2: as a Labor Greens until minority government Albanize.
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  Speaker 1: He keeps saying he won't go.
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  Speaker 2: Into partnership with the Greens, but he made a Freudian
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  Speaker 2: slip today just.
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  Speaker 3: To be really clear again. If you ask me, do
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  Speaker 3: you rule out governing and coalition with the Greens, he
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  Speaker 3: answered that is no.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he meant to say that he would rule it out.
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  Speaker 2: But of course you'll go into a partnership with the
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  Speaker 2: Greens and the Tills, just like Julia Gillard did. If
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  Speaker 2: Labour stays in office, the most powerful person in the
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  Speaker 2: country will be Adaman.
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  Speaker 1: So those are the options.
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  Speaker 2: You either get the coalition or Labor with the Greens.
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  Speaker 1: And possibly the Teals as well.
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  Speaker 2: The wrong choice will accelerate the national self harm that
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  Speaker 2: Albanesi and Labor have already inflicted on us. A lower
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  Speaker 2: standard of living, soaring electricity prices, a per capita recession,
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  Speaker 2: a bloated public service and out of control government spending,
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  Speaker 2: record immigration and a housing crisis, and weakness on national
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  Speaker 2: security that was highlighted again today with Sky News revealing
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  Speaker 2: that another Chinese vessel described as a spy ship is
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  Speaker 2: circumnavigating our continent again and the Prime Minister's response again
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  Speaker 2: seemed more focused on appeasing China than standing.
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  Speaker 1: Up to it.
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  Speaker 3: I would preferred that it wasn't there, But we live
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  Speaker 3: in circumstances where Justice Australia has vessels in South China
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  Speaker 3: Sea and vessels in the Taiwan Strait, and a round
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  Speaker 3: of a range of areas.
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  Speaker 7: This vessel is there.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 2: Some of us would prefer that Albo wasn't there too,
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  Speaker 2: And I suppose we get to vote on that very
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  Speaker 2: proposition on May third. Don't forget this government has failed
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  Speaker 2: on its own criteria. It promised to reduce the cost
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  Speaker 2: of living. It promised to cut electricity bills by two
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  Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five dollars a year. Albanesi and Foreign
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  Speaker 2: Minister Penny Wong have abandoned by partisanship when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to support for Israel, refusing to recognize West Jerusalem as
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  Speaker 2: its capital, voting against Israel and the United Nations, and
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  Speaker 2: constantly criticizing how Israel has defended itself since Hamas's October
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  Speaker 2: seventh atrocity. This has helped to fuel hateful antisemitism on
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  Speaker 2: our streets, starting the very day after the atrocity. Albanesi
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  Speaker 2: has been slow and weak when it comes to calling
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  Speaker 2: out the anti Jew hatred, which has fested into fire
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  Speaker 2: bombings and attacks on synagogues and childcare centers. Albanezi and
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  Speaker 2: his Treasurer Jim Charmers has delivered the greatest increase in
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  Speaker 2: recurrent expenditure by any first term government since goth Whitlam.
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  Speaker 2: The NDIS is out of control with roots and waste.
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  Speaker 2: Income taxes are up ninety seven billion dollars or thirty
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  Speaker 2: eight percent. Apart from guaranteeing higher taxes, greater waste, deeper
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  Speaker 2: deficits and steeper debt, this spending will fuel inflation and
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  Speaker 2: keep interest rates higher for longer. After three years of labour,
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  Speaker 2: Australia is less is less prosperous and more vulnerable than
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  Speaker 2: we were in twenty twenty two. Our education, health and
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  Speaker 2: disability systems are increasingly expensive but no more effective, and
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  Speaker 2: our society is more divided. It is a horrible record
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  Speaker 2: and partner with the Greens and Teals would only make
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  Speaker 2: it worse. The only hope is for a coalition government
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  Speaker 2: with backbone.
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  Speaker 1: Yet, now with the campaign underway.
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  Speaker 2: The poll show its lead has slipped and the popular
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  Speaker 2: vote is pretty much tied between the two major parties.
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  Speaker 2: We can only hope the calling of the election will
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  Speaker 2: now sharpen the choice and focus people's minds on the options.
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  Speaker 2: Peter Dutton cannot die wondering. He will need to give
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  Speaker 2: this everything. The entire election will come down to what
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  Speaker 2: transpires over this campaign period, over the next four and
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  Speaker 2: a half weeks. As a country, we are going backwards.
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  Speaker 2: Do we keep that up for another three years or
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  Speaker 2: can we start to turn it around? Plenty more coming
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  Speaker 2: up on the election tonight, but a couple of other
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  Speaker 2: things we can't ignore. First, and the flooding in Queensland
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  Speaker 2: is the worst for at least fifty years.
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  Speaker 1: He is some of the latest from Channel seven.
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  Speaker 8: One thousand kilometers from the coast. But Jender is an
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  Speaker 8: island in a bround inland.
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  Speaker 1: Ocean is a thorough.
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  Speaker 6: We can think out.
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  Speaker 8: The streets are swimma, all homes, the school, even the
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  Speaker 8: church bowing to the weather gods. The outback, a pillar
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  Speaker 8: of the state's agriculture industry, risks buckling under an environmental,
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  Speaker 8: financial and emotional disaster.
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  Speaker 9: This reign event, which should have saved us all and
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  Speaker 9: we needed, it's just gone too far.
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  Speaker 8: The nineteen seventy four record flood level under serious threat.
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  Speaker 8: Prolonged isolation is guaranteed.
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  Speaker 4: We'll be cut off here for about oh I'll be
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  Speaker 4: cut off for a month or more, i'd say, But anyway,
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  Speaker 4: we'll deal with that.
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  Speaker 1: We've done it before.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just a vast area affected here, not a huge
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  Speaker 2: number of people, but a vast area, and the problems
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  Speaker 2: are likely to go on for weeks. There'll be benefits
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  Speaker 2: in weeks and months to come, but a lot of
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  Speaker 2: difficulty in the meantime. We'll check in during the week.
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  Speaker 1: I showed you.
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  Speaker 2: Last week how hundreds, possibly thousands of brave Palestinians in
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  Speaker 2: Gaza were protesting against Hummas, calling it out as a
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  Speaker 2: terrorist outfit, demanding a hand back the remaining Israeli hostages,
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  Speaker 2: surrender its weapons and give the people of Gaza a
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  Speaker 2: chance at peace. This was encouraging staff and as I
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  Speaker 2: said at the time, it was remarkable that Hummas had
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  Speaker 2: not retaliated against the protesters. Perhaps that was because Israel
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  Speaker 2: had decimated the Hummas leadership well sadly, as we probably
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  Speaker 2: expected and certainly feared. The retaliation has begun, firstly with
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  Speaker 2: the execution of a protest Lada.
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  Speaker 10: Hamas has tortured and killed twenty two year old Gazan
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  Speaker 10: Odai Nasarsati. His body was left in front of his
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  Speaker 10: family's home over the weekend. He was one of the
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  Speaker 10: leaders of the anti Amas protest movement in Gaza, which
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  Speaker 10: has gained momentum over the last week, with masses taken
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  Speaker 10: to the streets to protest the terror group. A large
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  Speaker 10: crowd gathered on Sunday for Nasarsadi's funeral procession, during which
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  Speaker 10: they shouted Hamas out. The victim's family delivered a speech
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  Speaker 10: after his burial, publicly holding Hamas accountable for his death.
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  Speaker 11: A group that belongs to Alkasm Brigade kidnapped our betrayed son,
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  Speaker 11: Odai al Rabai with a silly excuse, and they tortured
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  Speaker 11: him to death without taking in consideration his mother's and relatives' feelings.
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  Speaker 11: They betrayed him and killed him. Thus we shall hit
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  Speaker 11: with an iron fist those oppressors and criminals. It took
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  Speaker 11: this most and killed him unjustly.
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  Speaker 10: Odeanasosardi is not the only one. Six others who were
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  Speaker 10: accused of collaborating with Israel were executed on Friday by Hamas.
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  Speaker 1: Just sickening stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Hummas are an evil, murderist jihadist organization, and you can't
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  Speaker 2: expect reason from them. It's why they have to be eliminated.
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  Speaker 2: No agreement can be struck with Islamist terrorists. But let
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  Speaker 2: me show you how the hatreds of the Middle East
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  Speaker 2: are reflected back here. Remember I showed you on Thursday
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  Speaker 2: that jazz artist Kelly Green won a Queensland Music Award
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  Speaker 2: for a piece called River to the Sea, and then
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  Speaker 2: she launched a vile attack on Israel in her acceptance speech.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 2: As a result, the Brisbane City Council cut funding to
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  Speaker 2: those awards good and Green was sacked by the Catholic
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  Speaker 2: college that employed it.
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  Speaker 1: Good.
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  Speaker 2: She exercised her free speech, she spread horrible lies and
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  Speaker 2: she's paid a price.
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  Speaker 1: But of course, to the radical left, she's a hero.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the one time ABC host Antoinette.
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  Speaker 12: Latoufe, a school teacher who's also a jazz musician, has
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  Speaker 12: just been stood down. And the music body that gave
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  Speaker 12: her an award this week, well, their government funding got pulled.
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  Speaker 12: Why because she dared to speak out against the ongoing
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  Speaker 12: murder of palestin in children, Women, healthcare workers, journalists, aid
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  Speaker 12: workers and other civilians. Women have always been at the
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  Speaker 12: forefront of anti violence and anti colonial movements, and surprise, surprise,
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  Speaker 12: they're being punished for it.
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  Speaker 2: Now. When I saw that clip on Instagram, I couldn't
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  Speaker 2: resist the temptation to reply, So I said, if women
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  Speaker 2: and men opposed war, they would fight against terrorism and
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  Speaker 2: demand that hostages are released rather than accept daily war
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  Speaker 2: crimes over more than five hundred days. Yeah, hummas are
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  Speaker 2: the terrorists slaughtering innocence and holding hostages. Those are clear
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  Speaker 2: war crimes. That's where the focus of anyone interested in
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  Speaker 2: humanity should be. But you ought to see the hate
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  Speaker 2: that came back at me. One suggested that people like
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  Speaker 2: me should face a Nuremberg trial, that is, to be
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  Speaker 2: tried like Nazis.
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  Speaker 1: Can you believe the logic here?
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  Speaker 2: You're a Nazi for calling out a terrorist group committed
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  Speaker 2: to the genocide of Jews. These people are so ignorant,
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  Speaker 2: so walked in their views. It explains their hatred. Another
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  Speaker 2: said my comment was disgusting and branded me white genocidal trash,
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  Speaker 2: And then they also endorsed the Nuremberg suggestion because they'd
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  Speaker 2: like to see them. That is the media hung as
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  Speaker 2: war criminals. Lovely, isn't it. This from the critics of Israel.
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  Speaker 2: This from people who claim to care for Palestinians. If
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  Speaker 2: they really cared for Palestinians, wouldn't they be directing their
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  Speaker 2: hatred at Humas. Wouldn't they be protesting in the streets
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  Speaker 2: now to express solidarity with those brave souls in Gaza
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  Speaker 2: who want Hamas to hand back the hostages and surrender.
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  Speaker 2: Now they'd rather spread hatred against anyone supporting Israel. Let's
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  Speaker 2: go to Liberal center Senator for New South Wales Days
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  Speaker 2: Charman now, who joins me live in Sydney. Good to
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  Speaker 2: talk to you again, Dave. A Chinese boat turns up
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  Speaker 2: in the first week of the election campaign. Should we
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  Speaker 2: be concerned at all about a Chinese research vessel sailing
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  Speaker 2: around the bottom end of Australia.
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  Speaker 13: Absolutely, we should be, Chris. This is not an innocuous
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  Speaker 13: research vessel. This is undoubtedly doing hydrographic research about sub
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  Speaker 13: surface features that will all be fed back to the
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  Speaker 13: People's Liberation Army, Navy and the headquarters of the Chinese
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  Speaker 13: Communist Party. So it's of a part with the PLA,
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  Speaker 13: Navy's Task Forces Hostile Co Navigation of Australia and Life
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  Speaker 13: Fire exercise off our coast a few weeks ago. It's
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  Speaker 13: an exercise in intelligence gathering, in intimidation and in coercion.
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  Speaker 2: And I suppose the area that it's headed through across
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  Speaker 2: the southern coast of Australia. You've got the Adelaide Submarine
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  Speaker 2: Corporation now where our Colins class submarines are based. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: Perth involved heavily when it comes to the submarine fleet
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  Speaker 2: as well. There's been an American nuclear powered submarine visiting.
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  Speaker 1: In that area. Would that be of interest to them?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think? Well?
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  Speaker 13: Absolutely, because if you can map the sea surface areas
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  Speaker 13: and the depths of seas and the feature of the
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  Speaker 13: sea bed, you can have a good sense of what
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  Speaker 13: sort of pathways and roots that submarines need to take,
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  Speaker 13: and if they are going to be choke points coming
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  Speaker 13: out of Adelaide, coming out of Perth, which would be
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  Speaker 13: where you'd seek to interdict any submarines. So this is
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  Speaker 13: valuable military research or the insight gain and the data
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  Speaker 13: gain would be valuable for military purposes.
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  Speaker 1: Undoubtedly.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's get onto the energy debate, which is going
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  Speaker 2: to be critical in this election campaign. One of Labour's
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  Speaker 2: many energy initiatives. Is community batteries? Is Chris Bowen sprooking
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  Speaker 2: one of them?
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  Speaker 4: We are standing in front of Australia's first community.
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  Speaker 14: Battery, funded by the Albertiza government.
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  Speaker 4: A few community batteries around Australia, but this is the
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  Speaker 4: first of our four hundred rollout.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: There we go, big batteries that power the community.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Supposedly, Labor announced that they're going to deliver four hundred
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: of these the Australians revealed now that only twenty one
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: have opened.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Is this a big miss or are we glad that
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: they haven't spent the money yet?
• 20:44
  Speaker 13: Well, this is a huge miss. I mean clearly, if
• 20:47
  Speaker 13: you're pursuing a renewables only energy strategy, which is what
• 20:50
  Speaker 13: Labour's doing, then you need to have storage to manage
• 20:54
  Speaker 13: all the renewables in the grid to make sure that
• 20:56
  Speaker 13: your power is not intermitten but it continuous. So the
• 20:59
  Speaker 13: fact that Labour has they've been able to roll out
• 21:01
  Speaker 13: what five percent of what they promised two and a
• 21:04
  Speaker 13: half years ago a centerpiece of their energy strategy, is
• 21:07
  Speaker 13: just laughable. And it shows you that this new promise
• 21:10
  Speaker 13: which they're dangling out there, that they're going to provide
• 21:12
  Speaker 13: funding for household batteries needs to be seen for the
• 21:15
  Speaker 13: comera that it likely is that it's going to be
• 21:17
  Speaker 13: another promise that is never delivered.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: But it also shows how difficult batteries are too.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: They're very expensive and they don't store a lot of energy,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: and so the idea of renewables plus batteries doesn't quite
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: stack up.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I want to get to you on the poles.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Look, the margins are thin here. The poles have really
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: been within the margin of era over the last couple
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: of months.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: But there's been.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: A uniform, if minor, recovery from labor. There's made things
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: about fifty to fifty across the poles at the moment.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Why is that?
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Why have the coalition lost some momentum?
• 21:53
  Speaker 13: Well, look, I'd say first of all that this election
• 21:56
  Speaker 13: was always going to be tired and competitive. We're trying
• 21:59
  Speaker 13: to do what has not happened in almost one hundred years,
• 22:02
  Speaker 13: which is to defeat a first term government. That's not
• 22:06
  Speaker 13: an easy thing to do. And we recognize that we
• 22:08
  Speaker 13: are the underdogs in this fight, and we've and we
• 22:11
  Speaker 13: still have some you know, if we're to win the election,
• 22:14
  Speaker 13: we have some you know, we have to do. We
• 22:16
  Speaker 13: have to convince people that we will be a better
• 22:19
  Speaker 13: government than Labor.
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 22:20
  Speaker 13: I think the polls will move around as they have
• 22:23
  Speaker 13: over the past few months and up until polling day.
• 22:26
  Speaker 13: Our job is not so much to focus on what
• 22:28
  Speaker 13: the polls say, but on making sure that we convince
• 22:31
  Speaker 13: the public why we have a better plan for Australia,
• 22:34
  Speaker 13: how we're going to get Australia back on track, and
• 22:35
  Speaker 13: why another three years of a Labor government would be
• 22:38
  Speaker 13: terrible for households.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Ami Nation.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we will see starting the campaign pretty much neck
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: and neck. Thanks for joining us, Dave, I appreciate it.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Dave Shama, the Liberal Senator for New South Wales, joining
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: US Live. Let's now now go to former Labor senator
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: and renowned polling analyst John Black, who joins.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: US Live from Brisbane.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Good to talk to you again, John. We've talked a
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: lot about the polls in the last few weeks. There's
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of good news there for the Coalition, bad
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: news for Labor. Look that the Martin Most of this
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: stuff is happening within the margin of era. Now we're
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: talking about fifty one, forty nine and fifty to fifty
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: and the like, but there's no doubt right across the
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: poles labor has recovered to a degree, is that the
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: benefit of their budget.
• 23:22
  Speaker 15: There is no doubt that there's been a consistent recovering
• 23:25
  Speaker 15: the labor vote over the last six weeks, and it's
• 23:28
  Speaker 15: reflected also in the reduction in the net satisfaction negative
• 23:33
  Speaker 15: schools for alban EASi and a decline for Peter Dutt
• 23:35
  Speaker 15: and so they've all moved in harmony. When I had
• 23:39
  Speaker 15: to look at all of the poles, I saw that
• 23:40
  Speaker 15: they were all within the standard era of each other.
• 23:43
  Speaker 15: So they're all roughly showing a swing of about two
• 23:45
  Speaker 15: percent against the government after preferences and before preferences, so
• 23:50
  Speaker 15: that was consistent the two party preferred votes fifty to fifty,
• 23:54
  Speaker 15: like you said, which means basically either side could win it.
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: A couple of the poles estimates of seats that are likely.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: To be won.
• 24:03
  Speaker 15: One had labor well in front, but that pole cut
• 24:06
  Speaker 15: off before the opposition leaders of response to the budget,
• 24:10
  Speaker 15: so I'm not sure how valid that is, and the
• 24:14
  Speaker 15: other one.
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: Was much closer. So but it's on for young and
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: old Chris. As you say, the consistent factor.
• 24:20
  Speaker 15: Behind the resurgence of votes for governments in a number
• 24:25
  Speaker 15: of countries which have been targeted by Donald Trump.
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: Is clear.
• 24:30
  Speaker 15: Therefore, all of us, basically, whether it's Canada or France,
• 24:34
  Speaker 15: or the UK or the Ukraine or even now Australia,
• 24:39
  Speaker 15: if you've been the target of Trump, the government's support increases.
• 24:42
  Speaker 15: That's basically happened right across the board.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I think that's very astute observation.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I think Trump is I know from the polling I've
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: heard about internal polling that Trump is toxic with the
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: swinging voters in this country. So if Trump has a
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: swing at you likely rise in the public esteem. The
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: other factor I wanted to ask about is you go
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: back to the reason Labor delayed the pole announcement delay
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: the election was the Queensland tropical cyclone that of course
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: turned into a tropical low. But Anthony Albanzi was quick
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: to get up there, stand alongside the premier, do all
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: that stuff. We usually see that sort of leadership in
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: a crisis reflect well on politicians.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Do you think that helped Albanesi as well?
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: Look, I think it did.
• 25:29
  Speaker 15: I could probably help the Queen's Land premiere a bit
• 25:32
  Speaker 15: more because he was here for the long haul and
• 25:35
  Speaker 15: was quite professional in his explanations of what was going
• 25:38
  Speaker 15: on in his warnings for the public. So I think
• 25:41
  Speaker 15: he did a little bit better when that became apparent.
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: We saw the Prime Minister arrive and stand shoulder to shoulder.
• 25:48
  Speaker 15: But look, it's good to see everybody taking an interest
• 25:52
  Speaker 15: at the top of the political tree. But yes, that
• 25:56
  Speaker 15: would have helped a little because the Commonwealth does come
• 25:59
  Speaker 15: to the aid of people into stress like this with
• 26:02
  Speaker 15: more resources than the state comment can bring to bear,
• 26:05
  Speaker 15: and haven't only knows Chris Queensland needs that, They need
• 26:07
  Speaker 15: it now as well.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Now when we talk about the Trump factor and the
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: way that can be a positive for alban easy and
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: it's certainly being used by Labor as an attack against
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Peter Dutton. They're trying to smear him with Trumpian policies.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Then surely Clive Palmer doesn't help. He's out there with
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: the trumpet of patriots. Everyone knows he's on the right
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: of center. He runs his own race, but he's on
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: the right of center. So just having that stuff out
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: there and the advertising all the time do damage to
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: the right of center brand.
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: Look, I'm not sure that it does.
• 26:39
  Speaker 15: I think Clive would be very happy to be seen
• 26:42
  Speaker 15: as the lightning rod for this sort of this sort
• 26:45
  Speaker 15: of mood.
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: I don't think it necessarily reflects on Dutton. I think
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: I think.
• 26:50
  Speaker 15: Peter Dutton needed to be a bit clearer with what
• 26:53
  Speaker 15: his alternatives were for the Labor government budget, which was
• 26:57
  Speaker 15: a very unpopular budget, and this was revealed quite clearly
• 27:00
  Speaker 15: in the news pole figures.
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: And some of the other polls that were taken over
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: the weekend.
• 27:05
  Speaker 15: So they need to get out there and explain to
• 27:08
  Speaker 15: the voters why their offerings are better, and they need
• 27:11
  Speaker 15: to do it with details, and they need to realize
• 27:15
  Speaker 15: and the National Party in Queensland, or the old National
• 27:18
  Speaker 15: Party in Queensland, needs to realize that Donald Trump and
• 27:22
  Speaker 15: Elon Musk political kryptonite right now for Australia.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good analysis, John, Thanks for joining us, John Black,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: their former Labor senator. Now we've got to take a break.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: On the other side, I'm going to join the Liberal
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: candidate on the hustings in the crucial seat of Paramatta.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: The Labor held seat of Paramatta in Sydney's West is
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: a crucial one in this election. It fell to Labor
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: at the last election, picked up by Andrew Charlton, who
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: was the economics advisor to Kevin Rudders Prime Minister. It'll
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: take a swing of more than three and a half
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: percent to win the seat back, so it's no easy
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: to After the Rudd years, Charlton carved out a highly
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: successful consultancy business that he sold for a motza. He's
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: now a multi millionaire, so it's great to have someone
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: in labour ranks who knows how to turn a buck.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: When he won pre selection for Paramatta, Charlton lived in
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: a twenty million dollar mansion in Bellevue Hill in Sydney's
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Ritzy East and promised to move into the electorate. He
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: spent just under two million dollars on a house in Paramatta,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: saying he'd shift his family there, but the following year
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: he bought a two million dollar family apartment in a
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Paramatta Tower development, and along the way he also dropped
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: twelve million dollars on a Palm Beach holiday house, so
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: there's no cost of living crisis for Charlton. He was
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: unavailable to chat to us today, so we caught up
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: with the Liberal candidate, local lawyer Kate Mullins.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: We caught up with a out on the campaign trail.
• 28:52
  Speaker 16: I just sang hid everyone today, I'm Katie Mullins. I'm
• 28:55
  Speaker 16: the Liberal candidate for this area. You're finding your grocery
• 28:57
  Speaker 16: prices have gone up. Yeah, we just heard that on
• 29:00
  Speaker 16: average they've gone up thirty percent of grocery.
• 29:03
  Speaker 14: Is the double price se Bull gives.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I think we needed another Prime minister like John Howlett,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: now other treasure like cred To Costello, least stable government,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: get the whole thing sorted out.
• 29:12
  Speaker 16: Yeah and look, and that's absolutely why I'm running as
• 29:16
  Speaker 16: a Liberal candidate for Paramatta.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: I think we need to make a change as well.
• 29:20
  Speaker 16: And with the Dutton led Liberal government, we're going to
• 29:22
  Speaker 16: get Australia back on track and we're going to get
• 29:23
  Speaker 16: that stability that we.
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: Used to have in the How it is.
• 29:26
  Speaker 16: It's so exciting. We've got thirty three days to go
• 29:30
  Speaker 16: and as I'm outcooking to.
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: People, they're really keen to see us make a change
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: in Australia.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Well, it seems the obvious point is it is it
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: cost of living? Is that the number one.
• 29:38
  Speaker 16: Issue that raised It is the number one, two and
• 29:41
  Speaker 16: three issue that's raised with me, absolutely and surprises.
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: I think that a lot of people are in survival mode.
• 29:49
  Speaker 16: They're living from paycheck to paycheck, and so they're concerned
• 29:53
  Speaker 16: about the grocery prices have gone up thirty percent.
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: Well, actually, we.
• 29:57
  Speaker 16: Were just speaking to someone in Paramatta Square who said
• 29:59
  Speaker 16: that their grocery prices have doubled and people can't continue
• 30:03
  Speaker 16: like this.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Well, in a situation like that, you would think that
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: the government would be on its knees, right, But the
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: poles have everything sort of fifty to fifty at the moment.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: How do you explain that?
• 30:13
  Speaker 16: Look, all I know is when I'm out talking to
• 30:15
  Speaker 16: people in the local community, they're telling me the same thing.
• 30:18
  Speaker 16: They're struggling under Labour's cost of living crisis. People are
• 30:22
  Speaker 16: struggling with their grocery prices going through the roof.
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: A lot of people have.
• 30:26
  Speaker 16: Said to me that they can't just go and buy
• 30:29
  Speaker 16: whatever kind of bread they like anymore. They can only
• 30:31
  Speaker 16: afford to buy what's on special that day. They don't
• 30:34
  Speaker 16: just throw a bag of cheese in their cart any longer.
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: They waiting until it's on special.
• 30:39
  Speaker 16: You have to check the prices for everything because everyone's
• 30:42
  Speaker 16: doing it so tough and every dollar counts well.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Labor making a lot out of their tax cut. It's
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: a year away, it's five dollars a week, but it
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: is a tax cut. Liberal Coalition policy is to eradicate
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: that tax cut. What's your response to that, because that's
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: a weaponized against the Coalition every minute of every day.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 31:03
  Speaker 16: Well, when I'm out speaking to people, no one's impressed
• 31:05
  Speaker 16: with a seventy cent tax cut that's going to be
• 31:08
  Speaker 16: delivered in fifteen months time. But people are excited about
• 31:13
  Speaker 16: our fuel announcement, which will save twenty five cents a
• 31:16
  Speaker 16: leter for the family with two.
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: Cars, that's fifteen hundred dollars a year.
• 31:21
  Speaker 16: And that's real cost of living relief that we'll be
• 31:23
  Speaker 16: giving immediately as soon as we get into government. It's
• 31:26
  Speaker 16: not something people have to wait fifteen months for, which, frankly.
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: People are telling me feels like a slap to the face. Well, Hi,
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: nice to meet. What's your name? Ellie? Nice to me,
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: and Ellie, I think you zuela winner.
• 31:37
  Speaker 17: With the lost the energy plan for Yes, If the
• 31:43
  Speaker 17: Coalition is to win government, it'll need to win a
• 31:46
  Speaker 17: swathe of seats from labor in Victoria and New South Wales,
• 31:49
  Speaker 17: and it's targeting plenty here in Western Sydney.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: That's why Coalition campaign headquarters is not in Melbourne and.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Not in Sydney. It's right here in Paramatta.
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: Proud Western Sydney local.
• 32:01
  Speaker 16: I grew up in a small country town and moved
• 32:04
  Speaker 16: to Paramatta to study law at our Western Sydney University
• 32:07
  Speaker 16: and then I've been practicing as a lawyer in the
• 32:09
  Speaker 16: local area for the.
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: Last sixteen and a half years.
• 32:11
  Speaker 16: This has been my home for two decades, and actually
• 32:15
  Speaker 16: have a family heritage here too, because my nana was
• 32:17
  Speaker 16: born and raised in the Paramatta electorate. Unfortunately she passed
• 32:21
  Speaker 16: away during this campaign, and so I'm proudly standing as
• 32:25
  Speaker 16: a Liberal candidate in an area that's my home but
• 32:28
  Speaker 16: was also my nana's home.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Now Andrew Charlton, the Labor member, he came from the
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: eastern suburbs of Sydney where he had a multimillion dollar mansion.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: He brought himself a place out here. Very smart bloke.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Has he melded into the community world. Do you use
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the blow in attack against him?
• 32:46
  Speaker 16: My focus is on the people of Paramatta, so I'm
• 32:49
  Speaker 16: out and about talking to people, listening to their issues
• 32:53
  Speaker 16: and working hard on how we can deliver for our community.
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: So this city and our community can really reach its more.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: You win.
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: This election's crucial.
• 33:02
  Speaker 16: Everyone I'm speaking to is really struggling with the cost
• 33:04
  Speaker 16: of living crisis, and so I believe this is an
• 33:07
  Speaker 16: election we have to win.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, big steaks out there and it's about Albanezi versus Darton.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: But it comes down.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: To these battles, seat by seat battles right across the country,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: and it's how good the local candidates are, how well
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: they work, as well as all those.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Big picture items right across the country.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: We will see now still to come in the program,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: we'll cross to London and catch up with Sophiel's worth.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: She's got the latest on the Shane warn scandal from
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Beyond the Grave.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Let's cross to what looks like.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: A beautiful morning in London where News Corps Europe correspondent
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Sophie Ellsworth is waiting for us outside Buckingham Palace. Great
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: to talk to you again, Sophie. You I'm pretty here,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: keen to hear about this latest royal scandal where Prince
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Harry's been criticized for bullying people in a charity that
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: he founded.
• 34:00
  Speaker 14: Yeah, that's right, Chris.
• 34:01
  Speaker 18: Look, Prince Harry's been the subject of headlines for several
• 34:04
  Speaker 18: days now relating to his charity Center Balai now the
• 34:08
  Speaker 18: chairwoman of this charity that Harry founded after the death
• 34:12
  Speaker 18: of his mother, Princess Diana.
• 34:15
  Speaker 14: She's come out.
• 34:15
  Speaker 18: And said she was the victim of bullying, misogyny, harassment,
• 34:20
  Speaker 18: and she's leveled many of these accusations at Prince Harry.
• 34:24
  Speaker 18: Prince Harry has subsequently quit the charity in the last week,
• 34:28
  Speaker 18: and now this is just a really bad turn of
• 34:31
  Speaker 18: events that's playing out in the public. Chris and the
• 34:34
  Speaker 18: chair of the charity, yesterday did an interview here in
• 34:37
  Speaker 18: London where she said that she was directed to put
• 34:40
  Speaker 18: out a press release defending Megan Markle because she became
• 34:44
  Speaker 18: embroiled in the charity as well, and she refused to
• 34:47
  Speaker 18: do that. So this is a very ugly spat that
• 34:50
  Speaker 18: is very damaging for Prince Harry because normally, of course
• 34:54
  Speaker 18: he's the one throwing out the allegations, but now they're
• 34:57
  Speaker 18: being thrown back at him.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Let's have a lo at some of that interview from
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: doctor Sophie Schiandalka.
• 35:04
  Speaker 19: What Prince Harry wanted to do was to eject me
• 35:07
  Speaker 19: from the organization, and this went on four months. It
• 35:10
  Speaker 19: went on four months through bullying harassment. Prince Harry interfered
• 35:15
  Speaker 19: in the investigation of that, and the senior independent director
• 35:19
  Speaker 19: who should have taken care of it was the very
• 35:21
  Speaker 19: same person who then delivered the news to me that
• 35:24
  Speaker 19: I was going to be removed by the board.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Shocking business is not going to add to Prince Harry's popularity,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: especially given I think one of the complaints was that
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: he and Meghan Markele organized a Netflix crew to turn
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: up at some charity event that no one really wanted around.
• 35:42
  Speaker 14: Well, Chris, that's right.
• 35:43
  Speaker 18: They the claims are that Prince Harry wanted Netflix to
• 35:47
  Speaker 18: come to one of the charity events, the chairwoman didn't
• 35:50
  Speaker 18: want this to happen. Then it became a messy situation
• 35:54
  Speaker 18: because I had a TV crew there.
• 35:56
  Speaker 14: It was really ugly, And.
• 35:57
  Speaker 18: This is just showing I guess that Prince har Mega
• 36:00
  Speaker 18: Michael they have to make their money somehow, but this
• 36:03
  Speaker 18: is where their Netflix steals has obviously become a problem
• 36:06
  Speaker 18: for them. But this is a spat that won't be
• 36:08
  Speaker 18: going away for Prince Harry or Mega Michael for some time,
• 36:12
  Speaker 18: and I think many people will be saying there's a
• 36:14
  Speaker 18: touch of karma here, Chris, because they always throw out
• 36:17
  Speaker 18: the allegations themselves, but now they're coming back at them.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Indeed now to an Australian, a late Australian who's generating
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: scandal even from beyond the grave. Of course, all of
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: England love Shane Warn almost as much as we ozsies do.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: But scandalous reports about drugs found at the scene of
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: his death, Chris.
• 36:40
  Speaker 18: Yesterday the Mail on Sunday here, the newspaper here, had
• 36:43
  Speaker 18: a pretty damaging report came out claiming that there was
• 36:46
  Speaker 18: a police officer at the scene when Shane Warn died
• 36:51
  Speaker 18: in Thailand in twenty twenty two, and he had this
• 36:54
  Speaker 18: substance dubbed well the nickname by agra Jelly, that was
• 36:59
  Speaker 18: found beside him at his death. Now the police officer
• 37:02
  Speaker 18: is claiming that he was told to remove this substance
• 37:06
  Speaker 18: and have no trace of it because it's obviously a
• 37:09
  Speaker 18: controversial substance. But on Shane Warne's death certificate it says
• 37:14
  Speaker 18: that he died of coronary artery issues, so this again
• 37:19
  Speaker 18: is another scandal. It's yet to be shown exactly if
• 37:23
  Speaker 18: this is the case, but these are the allegations that
• 37:25
  Speaker 18: have been reported here in the press in London, Chris, I.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Suppose the two are not mutually exclusive. I suppose any
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: drug taking could actually exacerbate what was going on with
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: the heart fascinating story, although all of it gruesome all
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: these years on. Thanks for joining us, Sophie appreciated, Sophie
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Ellsworth across all.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Of it in London as Eva.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Let's stuck up the Brisbane now where their real campaign
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: is going to begin tonight, I hope, because Paul Murray's
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: got his pub test in Brisbane with the opposition leader
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Peter Dutton live here on Sky at nine o'clock tonight
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: and great man, I think it's time to see Peter
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Dutton fighting back. I think it's time to see him
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: planning some punches. I think it's time to see him
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: just pushing the agenda the detailed day in.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Day out. So who'll be expecting to see some of
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: that tonight, right, Yeah, time to fire up.
• 38:17
  Speaker 20: I thought the speech, budget and reply was particularly well written,
• 38:20
  Speaker 20: but you could see he was a little bit nervous.
• 38:21
  Speaker 20: Why because it's a big moment, right. He's a very
• 38:23
  Speaker 20: experienced politician, but he's not an absolute creature of politics
• 38:27
  Speaker 20: like say elbow was the speech that he delivered at
• 38:30
  Speaker 20: the very start of the campaign. He's up against sort
• 38:32
  Speaker 20: of the camera collective, saying that the narrative is that
• 38:35
  Speaker 20: things are slipping away. This is an opportunity for no notes,
• 38:38
  Speaker 20: no backup, just being able to speak to normal people.
• 38:41
  Speaker 20: These are people who watch our channel, who are passionate
• 38:44
  Speaker 20: about politics, who've got real questions for him.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: And what I love.
• 38:48
  Speaker 20: About a pub test or a debate or a people's
• 38:51
  Speaker 20: forum is that it's not really connected to the types
• 38:54
  Speaker 20: of questions that journalists would ask, Like I was literally
• 38:57
  Speaker 20: flicking around just before the show started and that you've
• 39:00
  Speaker 20: already addressed this. But you know, the camera collective today
• 39:03
  Speaker 20: thinks the story is when he was asked by Colin
• 39:05
  Speaker 20: Jackie O this morning, do you want to live at
• 39:06
  Speaker 20: the lodge your curabillity house, and he says curabilly.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: House because the views are nice. That's the story of
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: the day.
• 39:11
  Speaker 20: There are so many millions of people whose lives have
• 39:14
  Speaker 20: gone backwards in the past three years. This is a
• 39:16
  Speaker 20: bloke who knows how to run into the fire. Remember
• 39:20
  Speaker 20: when he said no the first time about the voice,
• 39:22
  Speaker 20: it was sixty forty. Yes, he helps lead a campaign
• 39:25
  Speaker 20: that pulls it to sixty forty. No, he knows how
• 39:28
  Speaker 20: to marry up with where normal people are, and I
• 39:32
  Speaker 20: believe you're the first real chance to see that in
• 39:35
  Speaker 20: the election. Is not about journalists, not about gatekeepers. It's
• 39:38
  Speaker 20: all these people that are going to pack out this joint.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I think you spot on the people you have there
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: tonight will ask the questions that matter. I think that
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: was a great speech, the budget and reply speech. I
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: think the petrol tax exciz is a great hit back
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: and really good hip pocket relief to struggling families. But
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: that's why Albo went Friday morning to try and minimize
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: the publicity. So hopefully the keep talking about that and
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Peter Dutton tonight we'll get right back onto that. I
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: think one of the problems as oppositionally that is getting
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: your message out there often enough, and when the campaign
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: starts proper then you get equal coverage. So he really
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: should start to pull this thing around. I would hope.
• 40:19
  Speaker 20: Yeah, Look absolutely, Look this week also can't lie expected
• 40:23
  Speaker 20: big shadow Trump, right, this is in part of you
• 40:27
  Speaker 20: know again Albow's going to say, oh four d chairs
• 40:29
  Speaker 20: he always planned it. Remember he wanted an election that
• 40:32
  Speaker 20: started a couple of weeks ago about Cyclone Alfred.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Incidentally, by the.
• 40:36
  Speaker 20: Way, almost as much rain that fell in and around
• 40:38
  Speaker 20: X tropical Cyclone Alfred has gone to the west of Queensland.
• 40:42
  Speaker 20: But there's not as many people there, so you haven't
• 40:45
  Speaker 20: had the role in coverage. But Peter Dutton is out
• 40:47
  Speaker 20: there as we speak, and there is thousands ahead of
• 40:51
  Speaker 20: cattle that is going to be a much bigger whack
• 40:53
  Speaker 20: to the Australian economy. Yet the Prime Minister is off
• 40:56
  Speaker 20: in Perth, Peter Dutton making the most of his time
• 40:59
  Speaker 20: to go to that. That's a really important sign of
• 41:02
  Speaker 20: values and sign of priority.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not as many people, not as many marginal seats,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: is the point there.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: And I know some of the locals out there, some of.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: The mayors complaining about lack of attention from Canberra already.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Paul, Good luck tonight. Can't wait
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: for that nine o'clock tonight, the pub test.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: In Brisbane with Peter Dutton. Don't miss it. It's always
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: fantastic television.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: You get through our viewers, through the people that turn
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: up to join Paul in the pub test, you get
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: the focus on the real issues.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: We've got to take a break.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: On the other side of that, Gematon Union and Caroline
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: to us So join me to discuss the campaign plus
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: schools dealing with record levels of violence from students and parents.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: We've got the going back together again, Gematon Uni from
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: GT Communications after a week off, Good to see you again.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: And Carol under us so head, the host of the
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Royal Report and Sky News contributor. Great to see you again. Carol,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: let's get into the election campaigns. Give us your first
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: thoughts of the opening forays over the past three days.
• 42:03
  Speaker 9: Caroline, Oh, it's gotten off, it's gotten off really quickly.
• 42:08
  Speaker 14: Obviously.
• 42:10
  Speaker 9: Look, obviously there's that little bit of polling that came
• 42:13
  Speaker 9: out over the weekend that has definitely shown things.
• 42:16
  Speaker 14: Are tightening up. But I tell you what, our candidates
• 42:19
  Speaker 14: are all out on the ground, they're all doing what
• 42:21
  Speaker 14: they need to be doing.
• 42:22
  Speaker 9: There are a lot of direct voter contact, which absolutely
• 42:24
  Speaker 9: nothing replaces direct voter contact, and there's just been some
• 42:28
  Speaker 9: fabulous conversations. I was out door knocking in Bullwinkle on Saturday,
• 42:32
  Speaker 9: and you know, something like that fuel excise cut is
• 42:36
  Speaker 9: really really popular on the door. So there's obviously plenty
• 42:40
  Speaker 9: to go and it's always interesting to watch those pollis
• 42:43
  Speaker 9: cross the country have those conversations. Albow was here in
• 42:47
  Speaker 9: doubly way today saying that nature positive will shortly be back.
• 42:51
  Speaker 9: I'm not sure why you'd be talking about that in
• 42:53
  Speaker 9: doubly way before an election, but anyway, let's see where
• 42:56
  Speaker 9: it all goes. Plenty of waters still go under that bridge, mate,
• 42:59
  Speaker 9: I should.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: One out, of course, Caroline, you head up the Liberal
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Party in the Western Australia. When we talk about the
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: cant I get the sense that it's a kind of
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: a slow start to the campaign, Jim, And maybe that's
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: because it really started with the budget and then the
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: budget didn't reply.
• 43:13
  Speaker 21: I agree, perhaps because I'm not in the thick of things.
• 43:16
  Speaker 21: While I have many views, I'm not a member of
• 43:18
  Speaker 21: any party deliberately. So look, it's felt a bit sluggish,
• 43:23
  Speaker 21: and it's felt a bit scrappy, and I feel like
• 43:29
  Speaker 21: most people that I talked to, which is by far
• 43:31
  Speaker 21: from it's far from empirical evidence, but I'm like Caroline,
• 43:34
  Speaker 21: I'm all about the conversation and trying to listen to
• 43:36
  Speaker 21: what people are saying, and most people are just frustrated,
• 43:39
  Speaker 21: and they're frustrated with the government for all of the
• 43:42
  Speaker 21: cosmetic garbage that they're trying to shove at us. I mean,
• 43:44
  Speaker 21: I was, as you say, off grid last week, but
• 43:46
  Speaker 21: I did take a little sneak peak when thanks to
• 43:48
  Speaker 21: Elon Musk's starling no thanks to NBN, you know this
• 43:53
  Speaker 21: ridiculous five dollars a week tax break that.
• 43:55
  Speaker 14: You get in fifteen months.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what kind.
• 43:57
  Speaker 21: Of foolish, foolish person thought that would be good idea?
• 44:00
  Speaker 21: And again, fuel fuel Excise is a brilliant strategy, but
• 44:04
  Speaker 21: we just need to see more, bigger, We just need
• 44:05
  Speaker 21: to see more leadership.
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: I know we say that a lot. I think there's
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: a lot to play out.
• 44:10
  Speaker 21: And the thing that I'll be writing about for this
• 44:12
  Speaker 21: week's paper, I think is about the influence of the
• 44:15
  Speaker 21: anti Israel mob that are in bed with the Greens,
• 44:18
  Speaker 21: the same Greens that Prime Minister, if I'm not mistaken,
• 44:21
  Speaker 21: has said, well I would govern with them.
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: What else is he going to say?
• 44:24
  Speaker 21: He's not a person of principles, so he's not going to.
• 44:26
  Speaker 14: Have any princes.
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: We're going to have principles to actually stand by them.
• 44:29
  Speaker 21: But it would be amazing, wouldn't it be if the
• 44:31
  Speaker 21: Prime Minister was able to say the Greens are not
• 44:35
  Speaker 21: good for this country because everybody knows that they're not good.
• 44:38
  Speaker 21: But this is about absolute power and that's what makes
• 44:40
  Speaker 21: me sick to my stomach. So I'm really hoping and
• 44:42
  Speaker 21: praying that Australians of all different demographics, ages and political
• 44:46
  Speaker 21: persuasions will wake up and go.
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: Purpose over preference.
• 44:49
  Speaker 21: And if my purpose is to have a thriving company,
• 44:52
  Speaker 21: punt company country that comes back from the brink, I
• 44:55
  Speaker 21: cannot afford to vote for them.
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to really focus people's minds. I
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: think people have been ignoring it for a long while.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: I think the government's very much on the nose because
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: of cost the living pressures. But Peter Dutton just needs
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: to grasp that opportunity to make sure people can come
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: to him.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: One of the things that's going to continue to dominate
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: the debate is energy. Have a look at this from
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Anthony Alberinezy just over three years ago when he was
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: talking up their modeling that said you'd get a two
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five dollar cut in your annual power bill.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: This is the most comprehensive modeling ever done for any
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: policy by any opposition in Australia's history since federation.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's the modeling.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Then now that their power prices have gone up by
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: about what seven hundred one thousand dollars a year instead,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Albo won't even say whether.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: He aims to get your power down from this new high.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: And this is what he says about the modeling. It's
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: reputexis modeling.
• 45:54
  Speaker 18: Excuse me, you talk that was what you base your
• 45:57
  Speaker 18: policies on.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: It's reputexis modeling.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Co ownership of that modeling, it's reputexas modeling.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: From that time, you don't support the modeling anymore. This
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: is you walking away from that modeling.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: It's reputexas modeling based upon the circumstances at that time.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to overdo the Easter analogy there, Caro.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: But he's denied it three times and he had anything
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: to do with this.
• 46:20
  Speaker 14: Oh it is that time of the year.
• 46:23
  Speaker 9: Yeah, well absolutely, But the thing that's really important here,
• 46:26
  Speaker 9: and he can carry on about this modeling. The modeling
• 46:29
  Speaker 9: was completed in December twenty twenty one. The Ukraine War
• 46:34
  Speaker 9: started in February twenty twenty two, which is what he
• 46:38
  Speaker 9: says blows the modeling out of the water. But he
• 46:40
  Speaker 9: was shopping this to the election right up until the
• 46:44
  Speaker 9: election in May twenty twenty two. So if there was
• 46:47
  Speaker 9: a problem with that modeling because oil prices had already
• 46:51
  Speaker 9: gone up or whatever it was that he was suggesting,
• 46:54
  Speaker 9: then he should have probably you know, walked back that
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: modeling much sooner.
• 46:59
  Speaker 14: But he didn't do that. He shopped it all the
• 47:02
  Speaker 14: way up into the election.
• 47:04
  Speaker 9: And if you look at not just that, but just
• 47:06
  Speaker 9: the basis upon their twenty thirty targets. I mean, we've
• 47:10
  Speaker 9: talked about this on the show before, Chris. You know,
• 47:12
  Speaker 9: they said that ninety eight percent of us, we're all
• 47:15
  Speaker 9: eighty nine percent of us, we're going to be driving
• 47:17
  Speaker 9: electric vehicles by twenty thirty.
• 47:19
  Speaker 14: Well that happen.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you about how that.
• 47:23
  Speaker 14: Will we will?
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: It is all is, it is all nonsense. And Jemma,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: the point is that we know that a labor can't
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: say more gas won't put downward pressure on prices because
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: they've blamed all their price increases on gas pricing.
• 47:37
  Speaker 21: So let's take a step back for a second and
• 47:39
  Speaker 21: remember this is the prime minister that ruined the voice,
• 47:44
  Speaker 21: yeah for destroyed it destroyed it with his partisan political approach.
• 47:49
  Speaker 21: This is the Prime Minister who, thirty seconds after the
• 47:51
  Speaker 21: referendum results said.
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: Not my loss.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's not my loss.
• 47:55
  Speaker 14: I'm just Anthony Albansi. I'm the bloke you grew up
• 47:57
  Speaker 14: in a single parent household. Have you not heard?
• 48:00
  Speaker 21: I'm the bloke who is responsible for nothing, takes the
• 48:03
  Speaker 21: top dollar, goes to every party you can bloody go
• 48:05
  Speaker 21: to the opening of an envelope, but says, not my modeling,
• 48:09
  Speaker 21: not my loss in the referendum, not my problem. Has
• 48:12
  Speaker 21: he been back to Alice Springs?
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: Has he been to any of those places?
• 48:15
  Speaker 14: Does he care about indigenous.
• 48:16
  Speaker 21: Welfare, education or the safety of Indigenous women in remote
• 48:20
  Speaker 21: parts of Australia that you will not see from his
• 48:23
  Speaker 21: inner city Sydney elector. And if you think that I
• 48:25
  Speaker 21: sound cranky Chris, is because I'm just a taxpayer at you.
• 48:29
  Speaker 21: I run a business, I have a mortgage, all of
• 48:31
  Speaker 21: those things. And this party is on the boom of
• 48:34
  Speaker 21: the public like no other government since Whitlam. And it
• 48:37
  Speaker 21: makes me sick to my stomach.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: He is never responsible.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: We've said you didn't know about it because he was
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: in the car as you said, it's not my referendum
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: as the people's represent now, it's not his modeling.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: It's just always it's state laws or state responsibility. It's
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: all but always somebody else's responsible.
• 48:53
  Speaker 14: Stand for anything.
• 48:54
  Speaker 21: And he does not deserve a second term.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: It's pretty hard to argue with that. Here's what plea
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: that Dutton says about the energy situation.
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: There are two offerings at the next election, Andrew. One
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: is from the government, which is guaranteeing you that electricity
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: prices will go higher if Labour's re elected.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Right, let's be clear about that.
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: Electricity and gas is up by thirty two and thirty
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: four percent. Now, mister Albanesi's plan promises Australians that they
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: will pay more for electricity and gas after the election.
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: Our plan, which is to create an East Coast Reserve,
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: brings more gas into the system.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Caroline, I've been expecting leaflets in everybody's ladder box
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: about petrol prices and that stuff.
• 49:36
  Speaker 9: Yeah, there'll be absolutely plenty of that. And the simple
• 49:39
  Speaker 9: fact of the matter is is if you get more
• 49:41
  Speaker 9: gas into the system, of course that's going to have
• 49:44
  Speaker 9: an impact, a downward impact on prices.
• 49:46
  Speaker 14: You know, extra supply always.
• 49:47
  Speaker 9: Does you know I love the idea of an East
• 49:51
  Speaker 9: coast gas reservation policy.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: We have one, we've had in the West for long.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Ran Now I've.
• 49:55
  Speaker 14: Served us really really well.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:57
  Speaker 9: Do we have energy issues, Yeah, there's still so things,
• 50:00
  Speaker 9: but we don't have anywhere near.
• 50:02
  Speaker 14: The sorts of issues that you have over in the East.
• 50:05
  Speaker 9: Coach stop bragging, you know that true is Sorry about that,
• 50:09
  Speaker 9: but it's the truth.
• 50:10
  Speaker 14: It's the truth. And obviously you've got a different.
• 50:13
  Speaker 9: Type of energy market, so it might have to be
• 50:15
  Speaker 9: structured differently whatever.
• 50:17
  Speaker 14: I don't have the technical background on that.
• 50:19
  Speaker 9: But I do know that it does serve good stuff
• 50:24
  Speaker 9: out time have a bigger picture policy.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Great stuff, Caroline, Thanks so much for joining us, Carolina
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: and gemetone Uni here on the desk. We didn't get
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: to talk about the rising threat of violence in classrooms.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Will come back to that issue when it comes to
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: feedback from last night and the competing tax plans.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: David has told us that those not.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Getting Labour's tax cut people are pensioners, the unemployed, low
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: income earners, the full time students. They'll get the benefit
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: of that petrol tax cut.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I'll see tomorrow Night five o'clock