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08/18/26 - Hour 1 · The Huddle

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Speaker 1: Greeting salutation, smart, good looking listeners. Five o'clock club members,
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Speaker 1: let's rally, let's get it going. On a Tuesday. I'm
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Speaker 1: Drew Olson here at headquarters, joined by armand Sarian because
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Speaker 1: today's a practice day. Billy's not here.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, Drew practice day.
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Speaker 3: Billy will be going up to Green Bay, although I
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Speaker 3: think he is going to stop and he will, yeah,
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Speaker 3: stop it.
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Speaker 1: Here on his way to pick up our car.
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Speaker 2: But an extra hour sleep for ourman Williams.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: You know you don't want to drive tired.
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Speaker 1: You know that goes. You don't want to be driving tired.
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Speaker 3: He has We have to make sure he has enough
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Speaker 3: time to hit quick trip to get his uh his
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Speaker 3: provisions on his way up to UH to Lambo.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it'll be a good day.
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Speaker 1: So we're shorthanded a little bit. Dolph will be back.
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Speaker 1: Hunter's back from vacation, which is fantastic, and we're here
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Speaker 1: with our five o'clock clubbers. Check in eight seven, seven, seven, nine,
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Speaker 1: four one seven three Get you to the Nicola Law
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Speaker 1: dot Com talk and text line and for starters today
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Speaker 1: because the powers were off much well deserved, well timed
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Speaker 1: day off.
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Speaker 2: Well time indeed, I mean, how long have they been going.
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Speaker 1: Without seventeen d Seventeen days with a lot of travel
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Speaker 1: mixed in a West coast travel, a lot of roster shenanigans, injuries,
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Speaker 1: il maneuvers, guys, guys in and out of the team,
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Speaker 1: like playing out of position, guys that are added to
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Speaker 1: the roster and you know and dumped, you know, out
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Speaker 1: of nowhere, just guys parachuting in. It was a weird stretch.
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Speaker 1: We mentioned it yesterday. They went ten at seven, got
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Speaker 1: a chance to unwind, sleep at home and get ready
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Speaker 1: for our homestand that begins tonight against the Mariners. Now,
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Speaker 1: I have a hypothesis to bounce off of folks today,
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Speaker 1: and it is that baseball is, for a variety of reasons,
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Speaker 1: the best team, the best sport to follow when your
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Speaker 1: team is good, because you get the little bonuses. Like
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Speaker 1: last night, Brewers didn't play, They took the well deserved
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Speaker 1: day off. But the Cubs played the White Sox, and
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Speaker 1: the Brewers are battling the Cubs in the NL Central
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Speaker 1: and in the NL and you got to cheer against
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Speaker 1: the Cubs. Now it didn't work out. Cubs played a
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Speaker 1: thrilling game against the White Sox and they walked them
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Speaker 1: off in tenth inning.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, White Sox almost got him.
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Speaker 3: Ben attend he had the game lead, but unfortunately the
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Speaker 3: PCA monster.
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Speaker 1: PCA the way Miz kind of sealed his uh CY
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Speaker 1: young with his appearance in Los Angeles. Yeah, PCA may
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Speaker 1: have done that with the MVP. He's getting that level,
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Speaker 1: although obviously is still doing his thing. Atani's doing his thing,
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Speaker 1: but PCA is thirty and thirty and Otani's pitching has
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Speaker 1: been shelved, so he's not as attractive as the two
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Speaker 1: way candidate.
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Speaker 2: Totally agree.
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Speaker 3: And you also can't convince me that there isn't a
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Speaker 3: little voter fatigue on Otani. There was with Jordan, but
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Speaker 3: you know, we'll see see how it goes. But he's
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Speaker 3: definitely deserving.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's the thing, is like you got your
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Speaker 1: team to watch and others, because let's face it, the
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Speaker 1: Cubs and the Cubs are always an obsession in these
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Speaker 1: parts and have been and probably always.
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Speaker 2: Will be, especially when they're a contender.
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Speaker 1: But the Cubs, they provide that foil and they provide
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Speaker 1: that little side show. And I've heard it from several people,
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Speaker 1: probably a dozen times in the last month. When the
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Speaker 1: Brewers were kind of, you know, riding the roller coaster
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Speaker 1: up there down the Burrh's lost. Well, at least the
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Speaker 1: Cubs lost too, and it gives you that offset. You
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Speaker 1: get to offset your losses like, oh, well the Burr's loss,
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Speaker 1: but the Cubs didn't pick up any round. Yeah, Burrs
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Speaker 1: just struggled through a stretch and again struggled going ten
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Speaker 1: and seven, because it was a struggle. And yet the
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Speaker 1: Cubs picked up like a half a game in that period.
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Speaker 1: Because it's just like, it's just that's another reason. Plus
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Speaker 1: baseball's every damn day. You got something new every day.
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Speaker 1: Like the Packers in the NFL, you're building up. We
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Speaker 1: got another month yet until they start the season. And
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Speaker 1: then you get into the rhythm of the season. But
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Speaker 1: then you're playing ostensibly once a week, sometimes Sunday Thursday,
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Speaker 1: but you're playing once a week, and you spend you know,
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Speaker 1: two days, three days looking forward to the game you
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Speaker 1: have the game, you spend two days looking back, and
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Speaker 1: then you're looking forward again. In baseball, you got something
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Speaker 1: new every night.
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Speaker 3: It's a new meal. And in a way, yeah, you
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Speaker 3: make it, you're you're putting it. It's it's totally apt.
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Speaker 3: It's correct. So as when your team.
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Speaker 1: Is good in baseball and it being an everyday endeavor,
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Speaker 1: and when you get to you know, vicariously, you get
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Speaker 1: to slake your thirst on days off by rooting for
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Speaker 1: or against other teams.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get interest there.
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Speaker 1: It gives you now that that can happen. Not so
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Speaker 1: much in the NBA. The NBA is the NBA regular
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Speaker 1: season is in my mind, the worst regular season.
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Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately, it's a culture.
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Speaker 3: We've we've assigned less and less importance to it, and
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Speaker 3: therefore our passion for it has followed suit. Yeah, well,
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Speaker 3: like the the sport itself is assigned less importance to it.
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Speaker 2: So therefore that's how we look at it.
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Speaker 3: It's all about the playoffs, So I agree there, Although
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Speaker 3: when your team is you brought up a point, that's
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Speaker 3: a stude. When your team is really good, it's always
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Speaker 3: more fun to follow. So that means where's the most action.
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Speaker 3: It's baseball. It's a daily basis. It's a new meal
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Speaker 3: every day, whereas you always talk about feasting on the
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Speaker 3: buffalo of a packer game for the whole week.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got to feed the village. It can feed
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Speaker 1: the village and it has its merits, I will say,
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Speaker 1: but there's just something baseball being every day and you
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Speaker 1: can you know, and every day and you can have
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Speaker 1: these you have these little moments built in. You have
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Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, walk off games during the season,
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Speaker 1: like every day. Not every NFL game is followed by
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Speaker 1: a Gatorade.
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Speaker 2: Bath, right, some are just you know you do that, right, Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It's like it's funny because it's funny how people get
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Speaker 1: pissed sometimes like, oh, you only won the wild carter,
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Speaker 1: you clinch the playoff berth and brand champagne. Why are
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Speaker 1: you doing that? Well, they don't Gator eight on a
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Speaker 1: Tuesday night in Detroit, like, because.
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Speaker 3: There's like there's such a thing in baseball as a
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Speaker 3: walkoff homer, which you don't really have as much in
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Speaker 3: the other sports, right. I mean, you could get an
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Speaker 3: overtime goaling hockey, but in the NBA in basketball, unless
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Speaker 3: it's a true buzzer beater, or unless in the NFL
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Speaker 3: it's a true walkoff of a field goal, maybe in
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Speaker 3: overtime it's just not the same. But you know, you
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Speaker 3: do have that in baseball to walk off, and you're right, Drew,
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Speaker 3: you get more of it.
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Speaker 2: It's every day.
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Speaker 3: It's like if you have a favorite show, right, or
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Speaker 3: favorite book, Like, if it's something you're starting to really
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Speaker 3: enjoy a new show, just think if you had a
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Speaker 3: new episode every day, right, you don't have to wait
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Speaker 3: a whole week for our episode.
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Speaker 1: And that's kind of what it is.
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Speaker 3: And if it's something that's not going well for you,
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Speaker 3: if your team isn't you know, playing well, or you're
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Speaker 3: not really quite enjoying following them, it's easy to get
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Speaker 3: lost in it too. It's sort of like a soap
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Speaker 3: opera where they turn out like a factory. So many
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Speaker 3: it is so many episodes that you'll easily get lost,
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Speaker 3: and if you have no interest and miss ten episodes.
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Speaker 3: But if you're into it, if it's a passion and
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Speaker 3: you're truly enjoying it, and the thing is, you're getting
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Speaker 3: that dopamine rush from that team every day. And to
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Speaker 3: your point, the Cubs are giving that to you too
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Speaker 3: when they play as well, for better or for worse,
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Speaker 3: because you have an interest there.
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Speaker 1: So that is that is such an observational point.
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Speaker 3: That's a great point, Like the Brewers didn't play last night,
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Speaker 3: but the dopamine rush you got, or the opportunity you
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Speaker 3: got to watch for a dopamine rush by the Cubs.
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Speaker 3: Losing was was just as almost just as good because
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Speaker 3: it's like, nothing's going to replace the Brewers winning. But
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Speaker 3: when you're in first place, you also get the enjoyment
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Speaker 3: of watching and rooting for the second place team losing,
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Speaker 3: which is you know, it keeps your interest. It's like
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Speaker 3: a new it's like a new page of a book
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Speaker 3: that you're just engrossed in.
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Speaker 1: You know that exactly so that it's a page turner.
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Speaker 1: You're in it for the long haul. And to your point, though,
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Speaker 1: you can, like I don't know, you can be into
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Speaker 1: this Brewers team and then you can go to Europe
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Speaker 1: for two weeks and not follow it and then come
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Speaker 1: back and pick it up where you were sure right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah they just checked the stand. Okay, where did I miss?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Not that you can't do that in other sports,
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Speaker 1: but you can actually justly and especially in a pennant
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Speaker 1: race when you're scoreboard watching is more fun in baseball
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Speaker 1: and more prevalent.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like what's your nightly entertainment, you know, and
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Speaker 3: last night in the summer it's it's you had that
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Speaker 3: ability in baseball. They have a game every day now,
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Speaker 3: like like last night, right now, they didn't have one,
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Speaker 3: you know, so last night they had the day off.
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Speaker 3: But you're like, all right, well, I'm not paying attention
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Speaker 3: to baseball. But then you realize Ben andt Tendi just
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Speaker 3: hit a homer for the Socks and they just go
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Speaker 3: up five to four Wrigley, And then you get to
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Speaker 3: be invested in that game, and that you get to
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Speaker 3: you get to be entertained by that, and you got
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Speaker 3: to have It's always more fun to have a rooting interest,
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Speaker 3: you know, in anything. Like there's games on every night,
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Speaker 3: but if I watch the Angels and the Mariners, like
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Speaker 3: the Angels and the Rockies, the Dodgers, it's not you know,
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Speaker 3: unless it's really affecting your team.
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Speaker 1: A lot of fans feel this way. It's not the same.
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Speaker 3: But when you have something directly affecting you, like the Cubs,
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Speaker 3: obviously it's enjoyable.
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Speaker 2: It's an entertaining thing.
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Speaker 3: It is. Unfortunately Cubs Socks couldn't hold onto their lead
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Speaker 3: last night, but that's another great But it gave you entertainment,
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Speaker 3: gave me something to look at you. It's your side piece.
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Speaker 3: You got a side piece. You got the entertainment value.
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Speaker 3: Now are you living and dying?
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Speaker 1: If the Athletics are playing the Rangers, that game's going on,
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Speaker 1: and it's like, man, I mean, while back here among
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Speaker 1: the tire and strip club ass exactly, but you have
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Speaker 1: the Cubs front of mine. You're following like the Dodgers
9:23
Speaker 1: and the Braves for the best records. The Birds are
9:25
Speaker 1: actually in like two races, one to win the division,
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Speaker 1: one to finish with one of the two top records.
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Speaker 1: So you have like two side views and you only
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Speaker 1: get in the course of a season, what like twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty one days off, like including the All Star breaks
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Speaker 1: kind of the long run money, but you get like
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Speaker 1: one day a week where there's no ballgame. That's why
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Speaker 1: I know for.
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Speaker 3: Some people there was always also the flip side of boy,
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Speaker 3: it can be exhausting to follow baseball every day because
9:51
Speaker 3: you never get a break of having a.
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Speaker 1: Exhausting covering it. I want to tell you that it's
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Speaker 1: your job. I'm sure it's but people would say, you
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Speaker 1: know that wasn't gonna get boring. Don't the games all
10:01
Speaker 1: look the same? No, I would say, it's a book
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Speaker 1: with one hundred and sixty two chapters and every day
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Speaker 1: something happens where it's like even the year the Brewers
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Speaker 1: death march towards one hundred and six losses, every day
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Speaker 1: there was something new, something, there was some it took
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Speaker 1: a twist to turn. There was something going on.
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Speaker 3: And there's always like there'll always be an aspect of
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Speaker 3: when the season that long, where yeah, you know you're
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Speaker 3: ripping pages of the calendar. You know you're getting through
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Speaker 3: dog days and stuff. There's always an aspect of it.
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Speaker 2: But but you're right, and it comes down to how
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Speaker 2: much you enjoyed it in.
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Speaker 1: The past, Like well, the hard os always had the
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Speaker 1: side piece because the heart os and I mean the
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Speaker 1: hardcore fans, yeah, would always like live and die with
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Speaker 1: the minor league results, which have been you know, completely
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Speaker 1: that's fun again too, because the Brewers have such a deep,
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Speaker 1: well stocked organization. Probably Louis Pania moved up to Double A.
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Speaker 1: They're double A team, maybe one of the best minor
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Speaker 1: league teams in history in terms of the talent and
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Speaker 1: like future big leaguers on it. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: they're all gonna end up in Milwaukee, but they're all
11:04
Speaker 1: gonna end up playing in the Big leagues at some
11:05
Speaker 1: point and you're writing an incredible story, they're just a
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Speaker 1: little sidebar. And again, you got to kind of go
11:12
Speaker 1: find that. And there are people who are really into
11:14
Speaker 1: it and there are people who are just kind of
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Speaker 1: casually aware. But that's a little side hustle. But to me,
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Speaker 1: like last night proved it that you could be invested
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Speaker 1: in a Cub's you know, White Sox game that you
11:24
Speaker 1: otherwise wouldn't have cared about. Yeah, I don't think in
11:27
Speaker 1: Cincinnati they were living and dying with the Cubs. They
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Speaker 1: were busy with no double header last night. But Pittsburgh, Cincinnati,
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Speaker 1: like they aren't living and dying with that because their
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Speaker 1: team's not as good. But baseball offers you that at
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Speaker 1: the highest levels. And again, baseball is also the cruelest sport.
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Speaker 1: As a Bart Giamatti wrote, baseball breaks your heart. It's
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Speaker 1: designed to break your heart, and it's the cruelest sport
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Speaker 1: because it's the most random postseason and there's no you know,
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Speaker 1: rhyme or reasons. Best teams don't always win, blah blah blah.
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Speaker 1: But when your team is good and there's atmosphere and
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Speaker 1: the ballparks buzzing in full or you play a series
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Speaker 1: like the Brewers just did in LA. Like when how
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Speaker 1: often in the NBA do you get a night where
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Speaker 1: it feels like a playoff game? Yeah? Maybe once twice
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Speaker 1: a year here in the Yeah, in baseball you get
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Speaker 1: those regularly. You get more of them too, more chances
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Speaker 1: for it, you know what I'm saying. So in more games,
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Speaker 1: more chances for like just more compelling viewing. But you know, okay,
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Speaker 1: so like the Brewers are what ninety nine percent to
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Speaker 1: make the playoffs, but those four games in LA felt
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Speaker 1: like playoff games because they do matter.
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Speaker 2: They matter.
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Speaker 1: It mattered, and it felt like playoff games. So that's
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Speaker 1: why it just dawned on me last night as that
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Speaker 1: was unfolding in Chicago. And that's a great rivalry too.
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Speaker 1: And the White Socks are an incredible story, like independent
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Speaker 1: of your Brewer's rooting interest. The White Sox opened the
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Speaker 1: season here coming off a horrible season last lat year.
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Speaker 1: The Brewers stomped them. I remember talking to Len Casper
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Speaker 1: and Darren Jackson before a game and their their TV
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Speaker 1: crew friends of the program former of course, Lenny being
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Speaker 1: a Marquette guy and a Milwaukee radio guy, and Darren
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Speaker 1: played for the Brewers when I was covering the Brewers
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Speaker 1: back in the day, and so they were like, no,
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Speaker 1: we're better, like we're not this bad again, It's going
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Speaker 1: to be a better season, like we are better. And
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Speaker 1: they were confident and they called it and they are better.
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Speaker 1: But that that's an interesting sidebar. But the fact that
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Speaker 1: you get that little extra watching now again football fans, well,
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Speaker 1: the Packers aren't playing, I can enjoy Thursday night football.
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Speaker 1: I can bet on it. It's like, yeah, but are you
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Speaker 1: investments aside? Are you living and dying with the result
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Speaker 1: like you were last night, Like you're not a seam result,
13:48
Speaker 1: but the fantasy football aspect of it, people are yeah,
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Speaker 1: But you're right, it's not the same as all right, Well,
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Speaker 1: I mean you do cheer against division rivals a lot.
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Speaker 3: I mean, at least I do. Got people like me do.
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Speaker 3: I'm always looking to see the Viking.
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Speaker 2: I get that.
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Speaker 1: But you're right, it's not There can be.
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Speaker 3: Games that are you know, Jaguars Cardinals that are total
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Speaker 3: dogs that on Thursday night that you're like, okay, I'm
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Speaker 3: watching it because it's on right and the NFL is
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Speaker 3: still king. But you don't get the same You don't
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Speaker 3: get the same constant rush of flow through that faucet
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Speaker 3: of results of energy of games. And that's what makes
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Speaker 3: it fun to follow. It also can be like it's
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Speaker 3: fun because our team has been good, right, and when
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Speaker 3: when the Brewers have been had those bad that stretch
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Speaker 3: of bad teams for so long drew. That was also
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Speaker 3: what made it feel daunting for me, like as a
14:35
Speaker 3: Brewers fan, hoping that one day again I'd see my
14:38
Speaker 3: team go five hundred. That was the biggest thing, right,
14:41
Speaker 3: we haven't been five hundred in forever, we haven't won.
14:43
Speaker 3: I remember thinking like the Brewers would put so much
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Speaker 3: into winning a game or two here and then like
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Speaker 3: you could easily lose three in a row. There's so
14:49
Speaker 3: much to do, There's so many times you have to
14:51
Speaker 3: respond to be a good baseball team. I think is
14:54
Speaker 3: it's the hardest of any sport to be good at
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Speaker 3: because you have to constantly win. You have to constantly
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Speaker 3: put out a good result. You know, you can't fool
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Speaker 3: anybody for five ten games and that's enough, Like you
15:05
Speaker 3: know what I mean, You you can't have you know,
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Speaker 3: you can't win a bunch of NFL games by three
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Speaker 3: enough to get make a wild card, And it's just
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Speaker 3: in baseball, there are so many games that you have
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Speaker 3: to be legitimately good and you have to prove yourself
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Speaker 3: in that after night. And that was what always made
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Speaker 3: a daunting as a Burst fan. When they were bad,
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Speaker 3: I'm like, it is so hard to win in baseball.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, how come it? How come this franchise Milwaukee Brewers,
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Speaker 3: Like I cheer for this team and we'd go through
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Speaker 3: our struggles in the nineties and the early two thousands,
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Speaker 3: I'm like, how are we ever gonna win like that
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Speaker 3: many games? That many days like it just felt so hard,
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Speaker 3: Like you know, you got Wayne Franklin and west Over
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Speaker 3: Miller starting again, Like it was like did you get
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Speaker 3: a streak together when those guys were in your rotation?
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Speaker 1: Like west Over Miller from Iowa. That's a golf guy.
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Speaker 3: I hate to bestray him, but those were the That
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Speaker 3: was the way it felt. So so it goes both
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Speaker 3: My point is it goes both ways, right, And that's
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Speaker 3: what's great about baseball is you have you have the
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Speaker 3: drama on fold every day, you have the you have
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Speaker 3: the daily entertainment of the drugs, and that's that would
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Speaker 3: be the argument against the nothing matters but playoffs and championships.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 3: It's like in baseball, if your team's good, you have
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Speaker 3: you're getting the constant dopamine rush of entertainment every day.
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Speaker 3: Like you can't tell me that doesn't matter more in
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Speaker 3: baseball than anything.
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Speaker 1: to Porty agree because to me, last night was just
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Speaker 1: proof that baseball is the most fun sport to follow
16:38
Speaker 1: when your team is good. And I just the fact
16:43
Speaker 1: that you get these little sidebar you know, diversions that
16:46
Speaker 1: you can on a rare day off, you still get
16:49
Speaker 1: to scratch it. You get, like you said, the dopamine hit,
16:52
Speaker 1: that the Cubs playing a meaningful baseball And now the
16:55
Speaker 1: Cubs picked up a half a game. The Brewers can
16:57
Speaker 1: win it back today by beating the Mariners. But it's
17:00
Speaker 1: a it's just fascinating because that you're in it for
17:03
Speaker 1: the long haul. You only have in an entire course
17:06
Speaker 1: of a summer from you know, late March into early October,
17:11
Speaker 1: you get like eighteen to twenty days off. Yeah, there's
17:14
Speaker 1: no game.
17:14
Speaker 3: It's it's the as the gamblers would say, it's the
17:16
Speaker 3: constant action. You're always in action, yep. And when you
17:19
Speaker 3: crave the action, you want to stay in the action
17:21
Speaker 3: all the time because that's the energy that you're craving.
17:23
Speaker 1: It got a couple other sidebar corollary discussions today. We're
17:27
Speaker 1: going to talk about this weird situation with Diamondback Star.
17:30
Speaker 2: That's that one is just kind of baz ours the
17:33
Speaker 2: second time.
17:34
Speaker 1: He's kind of gone ale early bizarre al last night
17:36
Speaker 1: in Boston and has been placed on the restricted list,
17:39
Speaker 1: and it's just now there's the team again. They're trying
17:42
Speaker 1: to focus on being in the race and have to
17:46
Speaker 1: deal with this now really weird and they got spanked
17:49
Speaker 1: in the game, but not surprisingly, but there's bigger fish
17:52
Speaker 1: to fry there. They got bigger problems and as Buster
17:55
Speaker 1: Only friend of the Show points out, we start today
17:57
Speaker 1: with three teams tied for the third Ale wild Card
18:00
Speaker 1: with sixty one and sixty four records. Crazy seven teams
18:03
Speaker 1: are within two games of each other in the race
18:05
Speaker 1: for the third wild Yeah.
18:06
Speaker 3: I mentioned it quickly yesterday, Drew, but it's all say
18:09
Speaker 3: a game. No team has ever made the MLB playoffs
18:11
Speaker 3: in the non COVID shortened year with a record below
18:15
Speaker 3: five hundred.
18:16
Speaker 1: This could be the first year in the.
18:17
Speaker 3: AL because it's been so topsy turvy the balance of
18:21
Speaker 3: powers NL So we'll see. Now.
18:25
Speaker 1: Another corollary is that we're talking about PCA and there's
18:28
Speaker 1: the race that he has going on individually for the
18:30
Speaker 1: MVP award. PCA hits the walk off last night, He's
18:34
Speaker 1: got he's the thirty thirty guys last, has a chance
18:37
Speaker 1: to be the Cub's first forty forty guy. You're in
18:41
Speaker 1: if you're into analytics. I mean his are just going
18:43
Speaker 1: wild and his defense has been spectaclor. Cubs are, by
18:46
Speaker 1: the way, one of the better defensive teams in recent memory. Yeah,
18:49
Speaker 1: and he's a big part of that. So there's that race,
18:53
Speaker 1: and that got me thinking, who's the Brewers MVP this year?
18:58
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Speaker 3: And Drew, it's been as opposed to some years. I
19:34
Speaker 3: don't want to jinx it knock on for Micah here. Uh,
19:38
Speaker 3: they've had great weather up there.
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Speaker 1: Well. I was just thinking about that because if if
19:42
Speaker 1: it rains today, it's only concerned today, I think, which
19:46
Speaker 1: I think it's going to in Greenville. Yeah, but maybe
19:48
Speaker 1: late I think they might be. They might have a
19:50
Speaker 1: window of decent weather today because the due points really
19:53
Speaker 1: dropped a couple nights ago, and it is so comfortable
19:56
Speaker 1: out there. It last night was probably one of the
20:00
Speaker 1: greatest weather nights you could ever have. It was pretty good.
20:03
Speaker 3: I mean the fact it was warm, but it was comfortable.
20:06
Speaker 3: The due point is low, like in the fifties. When
20:09
Speaker 3: that thing drop, when that thing drops that due point,
20:12
Speaker 3: you don't get humidity. I mean you the weather was
20:15
Speaker 3: so nice it can bring you to tears. I mean
20:17
Speaker 3: it is so wonderful out there, you know what I mean.
20:20
Speaker 3: It could bring you to bring you a young young man.
20:22
Speaker 1: It was beautiful, windows open to sleep, and we should
20:24
Speaker 1: have another good day, a good week.
20:26
Speaker 3: For that.
20:26
Speaker 2: I don't think the Duke points are gonna heat really
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Speaker 2: heat up.
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Speaker 1: Should be pretty good, all right, eight seven, seven, seven,
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Speaker 1: nine four one ninety seven three. All you five o'clock
20:33
Speaker 1: clubbers check in, say hello and give us your thoughts
20:37
Speaker 1: on Uh. Well, we're focused on PCA because the last
20:40
Speaker 1: night Pete crow Armstrong. Rock will never call him PCA.
20:46
Speaker 1: I'll only call him Pete crow Strong.
20:48
Speaker 2: I love that.
20:48
Speaker 1: But we're focusing on him because he had two home runs,
20:52
Speaker 1: including a walk off, which is he's having a summer.
20:55
Speaker 1: Thirty homers, thirty steals and platinum probably are arguably best
21:00
Speaker 1: in the league. Defensive player. Puts him on at the
21:03
Speaker 1: top of the MVP pyramid right now. Yeah, show Hayes
21:06
Speaker 1: there too, but he's he's got a chance, got a
21:09
Speaker 1: chance to be the Cub's first forty forty in history
21:12
Speaker 1: as well. So that got me thinking, who's the Brewers MVP?
21:16
Speaker 1: And this is a spirited debate.
21:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, love this one.
21:19
Speaker 1: Because Arman is a Denzian of wins above replacement.
21:22
Speaker 3: I do love that stat wins above replacement projectivity in
21:25
Speaker 3: my winds above replacement.
21:27
Speaker 1: Give you one player and another player right on his heels, yeah,
21:31
Speaker 1: and then a guy who's the people's champion kind of
21:37
Speaker 1: like behind them considerably, and that would be Rice Terrang
21:42
Speaker 1: leads the Brewers in war at five point three.
21:45
Speaker 3: He's the one, and he did the same thing last year.
21:47
Speaker 3: His just combined the offense from his position and his
21:51
Speaker 3: defensive prow is combined make him super valuable in the
21:53
Speaker 3: analytics world.
21:54
Speaker 1: He leads the Brewers and runs scored. He leads the
21:56
Speaker 1: Brewers in hits. He's quite obviously there, leaves in doubles
22:01
Speaker 1: he is second, Yeah, third, I believe in Homers, behind
22:05
Speaker 1: Tario and Bowers. Yes, he's stolen sixteen bags. He has. Uh,
22:12
Speaker 1: He's put up a three fifty eight OBP, which is
22:15
Speaker 1: pretty good, only behind only Powers if I'm not mistaken, Well,
22:19
Speaker 1: I guess Vaughn SA three ninety. But his numbers are
22:23
Speaker 1: right up there, Platinum level defense.
22:26
Speaker 2: He leads that defensive war at that position.
22:28
Speaker 1: He's played in one hundred and fifteen games, which is
22:32
Speaker 1: a lot out of one hundred and twenty five, so
22:35
Speaker 1: he's giving you the most so total cumulative value. Conversely,
22:39
Speaker 1: though he pitches only every five days miss on his
22:43
Speaker 1: way to a cy Young Award.
22:44
Speaker 2: He's right there too.
22:45
Speaker 1: It's a five point one war, which is right behind
22:48
Speaker 1: Tank's five point three.
22:50
Speaker 3: It becomes it is it's becomes a discussion of whether
22:53
Speaker 3: or not you know to give the MVP to a
22:55
Speaker 3: starter starting picture.
22:56
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, some people want to break it up already. Well,
22:58
Speaker 1: he's the pitching sam kind of that way. And then
23:01
Speaker 1: Bowers is in the discussion. His war is only two
23:04
Speaker 1: point four.
23:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think part of that's because he plays
23:08
Speaker 3: first and it's kind of a complicated stat but it is.
23:10
Speaker 3: There's so much offense that comes from first base. It's
23:13
Speaker 3: really hard. It doesn't mean you're not valuable or putting
23:15
Speaker 3: up And in fact, I would actually eskew from my
23:18
Speaker 3: normal war and say Bowers has to get a stronger
23:22
Speaker 3: argument here because you think about the topsy Turvy year,
23:26
Speaker 3: the Brewers have had with some of their offensive players
23:29
Speaker 3: that they count on, and Bowers year has been so
23:32
Speaker 3: good and such a constant revelation. There are some days
23:37
Speaker 3: you would have wondered, especially early in the year, where
23:40
Speaker 3: would the Brewers have been without Jake Bauers offense. I mean,
23:43
Speaker 3: Jake Bowers has been so important to this team as bats,
23:46
Speaker 3: so he should definitely get some consideration.
23:48
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Terrang has more played appearances and at bats
23:53
Speaker 1: they've scored.
23:54
Speaker 2: That's the other thing.
23:55
Speaker 1: Played a similar amount of runs. And again Terrang has
23:59
Speaker 1: him by like seventy played appearances. Yeah, so Rangu scored
24:03
Speaker 1: seventy four runs, Bowers has scored seventy one. Tereng has
24:05
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty hits, Bowers has one hundred and four.
24:08
Speaker 1: Terrang has twenty eight doubles Bowers as eighteen triples are
24:12
Speaker 1: a wash three for Terang, two for Bowers. Bowers has
24:16
Speaker 1: twenty one homers and seventy RBI. Terrang is at sixteen
24:19
Speaker 1: and seventy five. Okay, so fewer homers for Terrang, but
24:23
Speaker 1: more RBI and steals. He's almost doubled him up at
24:27
Speaker 1: sixteen to nine. It's it's a close race, but I
24:33
Speaker 1: think in terms of the numbers. In terms of numbers,
24:36
Speaker 1: you would say Terrang. In terms of vibe, you would
24:39
Speaker 1: say Bowers. Yeah, just because of the power he's provided you.
24:42
Speaker 3: Now, it's kind of tough to judge him defensively because
24:46
Speaker 3: he's played a couple of positions and mostly at first
24:48
Speaker 3: and he and Bowers hasn't played every day, right, So
24:51
Speaker 3: Tereng's given you that every day kind of up. Yeah,
24:53
Speaker 3: well he played a lot of days, but a lot
24:55
Speaker 3: of days but not Yeah, I guess yeah, more than
24:58
Speaker 3: more than. He's close to it, but he's not every
25:00
Speaker 3: day where Terrang powers is.
25:02
Speaker 1: Fourth on the team in games played. Do you know
25:05
Speaker 1: who's ahead of him?
25:07
Speaker 3: Well, Terrang, Terrang and I I'm not not sure because
25:12
Speaker 3: he was banged up, or Ortiz honestly.
25:17
Speaker 1: Leads. Yeah, one sixteen Garrett Mitchell, Terrang is one fifteen.
25:21
Speaker 1: Garrett Mitchell's one thirteen, one twelve. Who said that nobody
25:27
Speaker 1: else is over one hundred.
25:28
Speaker 3: No, it's what's fantastic about it is what he's done.
25:31
Speaker 3: But the thing with Terrang is when you threaten a
25:34
Speaker 3: gold glove from your position at all times, you're just
25:36
Speaker 3: giving a team more value. And he's had another great
25:39
Speaker 3: defensive year. That's not to take anything away from Bowers,
25:42
Speaker 3: but that's probably where you tip the scales if you
25:44
Speaker 3: were to judge one or the other. Now, there's going
25:46
Speaker 3: to be some out there, and and Andrew Fritz here
25:49
Speaker 3: chiming in on on YouTube is one of them.
25:51
Speaker 2: It's obviously, Miss clear cuts.
25:53
Speaker 3: I young with a month, and I have to go
25:54
Speaker 3: the value of a dominant starting pitcher like that, Drew.
25:57
Speaker 3: When you need a stopper the most, when you need
25:59
Speaker 3: a guy you can content all the time, when you
26:01
Speaker 3: know you can highly increase your chances of winning every
26:05
Speaker 3: time he steps in the mound, it's hard to replace
26:07
Speaker 3: that value too.
26:09
Speaker 2: Very true, you know, So that's very true, Miss.
26:11
Speaker 1: But again intellectually, and I'm the first to say that
26:16
Speaker 1: a starting pitcher affects He pitches once every five days,
26:20
Speaker 1: but he affects three of the five games because you
26:23
Speaker 1: generally you can manage your bullpen a little differently. It's like, oh,
26:26
Speaker 1: we got Miss going tomorrow, we can kind of empty
26:28
Speaker 1: the bullpen a little bit, and then you got Miss.
26:30
Speaker 1: And then the day after, because he's generally gone seven
26:33
Speaker 1: innings or six strong, you have a fresher bullpen right,
26:36
Speaker 1: so he impacts the games around the games that he pitches.
26:40
Speaker 1: But you know, missus started twenty three games. Yeah, I
26:46
Speaker 1: mean it's amazing what he'd be the MVP when you've
26:49
Speaker 1: started one hundred and twenty three games and well the
26:53
Speaker 1: team has played one hundred, i mean, twenty three games
26:54
Speaker 1: out of one hundred and twenty five.
26:56
Speaker 3: Well, should they give the should they give the MVP
26:58
Speaker 3: to pitchers? I mean that's also the big that's a big,
27:01
Speaker 3: a big debate over the years, and uh, some you know,
27:03
Speaker 3: some guys are that good. I personally like Cy Young
27:07
Speaker 3: as being the MVP for pitchers, so I like separating him.
27:10
Speaker 3: But if you're just talking about one player, it's a
27:13
Speaker 3: mis verse Terrang probably, and then then Terrang gives you
27:16
Speaker 3: the every day Yeah, I mean it's hard to kind.
27:18
Speaker 1: Of well, Steve on the talking text line says, the
27:21
Speaker 1: pitching MVP is McGill.
27:24
Speaker 3: You know, you could make an argument for him or
27:25
Speaker 3: your Rebay. I don't want to forget your Rebay there.
27:28
Speaker 3: Those two have been pretty good stalwarts at the end
27:30
Speaker 3: of the bullpen, well the back end where no one,
27:33
Speaker 3: no one thought about him.
27:34
Speaker 1: You know, well, you're you're a war fan Mizerowski's war
27:38
Speaker 1: is five point one, which is spectacular. Yeah, McGill's is
27:43
Speaker 1: one point seven, which ranks him fifth in the delta
27:46
Speaker 1: pledge class, which behind Abner Urebey at one point nine
27:49
Speaker 1: and behind Kyle Harrison and Logan Henderson are both that
27:52
Speaker 1: two point one. They have two bullpen arms. With that,
27:54
Speaker 1: I have a war.
27:55
Speaker 3: It means they're both spectacular because it's hard to generate
27:58
Speaker 3: that number as a reliever just because it's that war
28:02
Speaker 3: status based so much on volume of performance, like on
28:05
Speaker 3: volume of.
28:06
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. Well, and there you have it.
28:08
Speaker 1: Because if you're going to make the case for McGill,
28:11
Speaker 1: like I said, MS has pitched spectacularly, he's going to
28:14
Speaker 1: be the cy Young is the best pitcher in the league.
28:16
Speaker 1: But he's pitched twenty three games. McGill and Uribe, who's
28:18
Speaker 1: hurt now and on the aisle, have both pitched in
28:21
Speaker 1: forty nine games, so they've impacted as many games.
28:24
Speaker 2: You're impacting, not as many innings, but not more games.
28:27
Speaker 1: But more games. Yeah, and those are high leverage innings,
28:31
Speaker 1: to use a phrase that I don't generally like. So
28:34
Speaker 1: you ate that, Yeah, not as much as Mike Vasalo,
28:37
Speaker 1: but I don't like it, so it's fascinating. And by
28:40
Speaker 1: the way, Miss with the two hundred and ten strikeouts
28:42
Speaker 1: is incredible. I mean, that's the thing. It's hard to place.
28:46
Speaker 1: Miss has been the most dominant, there's no question, there's
28:48
Speaker 1: no question question, and MVP for this team.
28:51
Speaker 3: Whether or not you want to call him the pitching
28:53
Speaker 3: MVP or the other MVP.
28:56
Speaker 1: I don't know. So I don't know if I could
28:58
Speaker 1: put him in an MVP race of Terrang and or Bowers.
29:02
Speaker 1: And I think Terank's been more valuable than Vowers, but
29:05
Speaker 1: it's close, like I said, in the numbers, in the
29:08
Speaker 1: counting and the intellectual stats and Bowers and the vibes,
29:12
Speaker 1: because Bowers seems like he's gotten big hits and he's
29:14
Speaker 1: done things when nobody else is doing anything.
29:16
Speaker 2: Especially power numbers early totally.
29:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he was this team doesn't hit that
29:20
Speaker 3: many homers, and he's the one was the one guy
29:22
Speaker 3: doing it.
29:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, Rake Bower's nickname. Terank's just steady and he's just
29:27
Speaker 1: there and you just count on him. And and Terraang
29:29
Speaker 1: does come up with big hits, but a lot of
29:31
Speaker 1: times they're part of rallies. And oh yeah, by the
29:33
Speaker 1: way Terraang had a double in that three run rally,
29:36
Speaker 1: whereas Bowers seems like he gets the standalone spotlight a lot.
29:40
Speaker 1: You know he comes through a lot in the uh sure,
29:43
Speaker 1: you know he comes through a lot in just big situations.
29:46
Speaker 1: He and hey, man, you need guys like that. You
29:49
Speaker 1: need if you're a good team. It's good to have
29:53
Speaker 1: a discussion where you have three or four guys that
29:56
Speaker 1: you can make the case for being your envy.
29:58
Speaker 2: This is a great thing to have. This is you need.
30:00
Speaker 1: It's absolutely buddy.
30:01
Speaker 3: And Kenosha says, no defensive wizards the season, so I'll
30:04
Speaker 3: say Rake Bowers is MVP. Well, the numbers suggests Terrang
30:07
Speaker 3: has been defensive wizard.
30:09
Speaker 1: And the thing is.
30:10
Speaker 3: That's part of the reason his war is so high.
30:11
Speaker 3: That's the main reason it's jumped up so high. And
30:14
Speaker 3: the thing about the thing about Terrang is it's kind
30:16
Speaker 3: of a hidden value to the naked eye because even
30:19
Speaker 3: though you can see while he's a good defensive, defensive
30:22
Speaker 3: second baseman, you ask yourself, how much does it really
30:25
Speaker 3: contribute to wins? And that's what War tries to get at.
30:27
Speaker 3: And the thing is, and that's why I said it
30:28
Speaker 3: before I remember it was one of my hot take
30:30
Speaker 3: Lump days that Terrain could be an MVP one day
30:34
Speaker 3: if he has fifteen more years like he did, because
30:36
Speaker 3: he because he can. His defense always puts him in
30:39
Speaker 3: a number where if he's playing close to gold glove
30:42
Speaker 3: worthy defense, which he usually does, the analytics love it,
30:47
Speaker 3: the war number loves it, and he's always going to
30:49
Speaker 3: be had that value quoted where he's gonna just add
30:53
Speaker 3: that number up. And that's kind of what PC is
30:55
Speaker 3: doing is well in Chicago, and that's what voters vote
30:58
Speaker 3: on now. So as much as it pains me to
31:01
Speaker 3: realize we probably won't be able to keep Terrang long term,
31:03
Speaker 3: I always said that was the one guy I would
31:05
Speaker 3: have signed and invested in because he provides you so
31:08
Speaker 3: many wins win values because of the defense.
31:12
Speaker 2: And he did it last year.
31:13
Speaker 1: He's doing it again. Drew.
31:15
Speaker 3: His total war last year is five and a half.
31:17
Speaker 3: Twenty four was four point eight. You're talking about seventeen
31:20
Speaker 3: point one. He's gonna be top twelve and Brewers War
31:23
Speaker 3: in a year or two. All time. I mean, in
31:26
Speaker 3: terms of what guys contributed, that's nothing to shake a
31:28
Speaker 3: stick at. Like, you know, nothing seems that like, So
31:31
Speaker 3: it's pretty impressive stuff from Terrang.
31:34
Speaker 2: I think that's why you always have him in the
31:35
Speaker 2: mixes team MVP.
31:38
Speaker 1: Rang's stats. You want to go deep into the weeds
31:41
Speaker 1: of the stats. Baseball infos Solutions has a stat defensive
31:44
Speaker 1: runs saved above average, the number of runs above or
31:48
Speaker 1: below average the player was worth based on their overall
31:51
Speaker 1: defense combining a whole bunch of other numbers. Terrang is
31:55
Speaker 1: at like seventeen. That's pretty wild. It's not run saved
32:01
Speaker 1: above average powers is minus seven. Yeah, see that, that's
32:07
Speaker 1: what I'll do it to you. That's where your war
32:09
Speaker 1: discrepancy comes in.
32:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, some people and some people don't like over lines
32:14
Speaker 3: on the stat and some I understand that, Like I
32:17
Speaker 3: always look for you know, there's so much eye test
32:19
Speaker 3: in baseball. That's why I think we love the numbers
32:22
Speaker 3: so much. We've it's always been a statistic sport, and
32:25
Speaker 3: this is just another one of them.
32:26
Speaker 1: To me.
32:26
Speaker 3: It's an objective standard. You try and find context. Prince
32:31
Speaker 3: Fielder is twenty fourth all time in Brewers War with
32:33
Speaker 3: sixteen point eight. Terreng's already passed him, so by that
32:36
Speaker 3: measure alone, he's already been more valuable in the franchise
32:40
Speaker 3: than Prince Fielder is.
32:40
Speaker 1: Now.
32:41
Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of people would not agree with that.
32:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and that's sortally fair, but it's just
32:45
Speaker 3: kind of a it's just kind of a reference point
32:47
Speaker 3: for people to think about.
32:49
Speaker 1: Rice Trang, by the way, is twenty six, and baseball
32:52
Speaker 1: players generally hit their peak at twenty seven, and they
32:55
Speaker 1: enjoy their peak between twenty six and thirty. Just saying
32:59
Speaker 1: same thing with Mitchellie twenty seven. If he and William
33:02
Speaker 1: so it seems like he's been playing forever, is only
33:04
Speaker 1: twenty eight.
33:05
Speaker 3: If Terrang it's nine hundred, ops, he could be an
33:07
Speaker 3: MVP one day. It's it's similar to what PCA's doing
33:09
Speaker 3: this year, and he's at eight hundred this year, which
33:12
Speaker 3: is really good obviously. So yeah, I read Andrew's text already,
33:17
Speaker 3: Uh Pink Flamingo talking about how it's how the baseball
33:21
Speaker 3: is the ultimate dopamine rush game every day. In football,
33:23
Speaker 3: there's no room for air. You only play seventeen games.
33:25
Speaker 3: If you lose two in a row, suddenly it feels
33:27
Speaker 3: like your playoff hopes are gone.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say and I've said for years that
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Speaker 1: talking about the Brewers. Who's your MVP? Just make a vote.
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Speaker 1: We'll do a straw poll here. I would say the
35:48
Speaker 1: leading candidates are miz Terrang and Bowers again, like they
35:54
Speaker 1: have varying cases and Bowers is more about the vibes,
35:56
Speaker 1: sure than the numbers. But the numbers tell the story
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Speaker 1: as well. So what you put yourself in those shoes,
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Speaker 1: make yourself a voter, give us your ranked three or
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Speaker 1: ranked five, because you can make a case Contraras is
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Speaker 1: pretty valuable to that team. Yeah, even when he's been
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Speaker 1: struggling offensively, what he does with the pitchers and defensively.
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Speaker 2: Is you still need him there. I mean that's the thing.
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Speaker 3: Obviously it's not as been his best season in that sense,
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Speaker 3: but you still need them there to make that case
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Speaker 3: as well.
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Speaker 1: What about it? I mean, which of the guys there,
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Speaker 1: which of the yeah Harrison, uh for sure? Which which
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Speaker 1: one of the guys? Though? Will get here? There's gonna
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Speaker 1: fish with the best record in baseball and they might
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Speaker 1: not have anybody in the top ten of the m
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Speaker 1: v p BO. And that's amazing, And that's kind of
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Speaker 1: been their moment. Maybe it's because MS is gonna get Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he gets his Flowers on the sy Young side, but
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Speaker 1: Terrang should be in there and Bowers maybe as well.
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Speaker 1: In fact, maybe they'll crack and get a couple. Well,
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Speaker 1: Terrang's been criminally under Maybe the Milwaukee guys will vote
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Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, you would think give him like seventh
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Speaker 1: or something.
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Speaker 3: But the real strength of this Brewers team has been
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Speaker 3: that they aren't a team built on like a bunch
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Speaker 3: of big truth, you know, very true Jim and Egg.
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Speaker 3: It's been a it's been a collective, especially for the
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Speaker 3: pitching staff all these years, and and and from the
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Speaker 3: front office, Logan Henderson has been great.
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Speaker 1: You know, that's another that's another guy who was and
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Speaker 1: you mentioned McGill and your rebate pitch a lot in
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Speaker 1: important situations. I mean, you know, a low key, under
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Speaker 1: the radar glue guy is Ashby. Yeah, with the volume
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Speaker 1: of wark he does on that side of it, it's.
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Speaker 2: He was really starting you know, he kind of had
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Speaker 2: a rough patch in the year.
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Speaker 1: But so as as we as this lays out, and
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Speaker 1: again one of the things that Birds have avoided this
37:31
Speaker 1: year is drama, and we got drama in Arizona.
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Speaker 2: Crazy.
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Speaker 1: The d Backs are trying to make a push and
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Speaker 1: trying to get into the and Billy's been bullish on
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Speaker 1: them for a while because they're going to get some
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Speaker 1: pitchers back. And uh, here they go to Boston for
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Speaker 1: kind of a big series, two kind of surging teams, uh,
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Speaker 1: and the the d Backs are derailed by Katel Marte
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Speaker 1: flying to Boston with the team. He was seen at
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Speaker 1: a are uh the night before the game. He posted
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Speaker 1: on his Instagram like I was there, I think from
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Speaker 1: the flight and stuff a photo from the of the
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Speaker 1: flight landing and he put reposted like a graphic of
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Speaker 1: the game preview and then he didn't show up for
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Speaker 1: the game.
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Speaker 3: Now, one really quick thing on this, and we're gonna
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Speaker 3: hit the top of the hour, so we'll get into
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Speaker 3: it more.
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Speaker 1: But I was going to ask you, Drew the confusion.
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Speaker 3: There seemed to be some confusion at first if he
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Speaker 3: was in Boston right for the series at first, but
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Speaker 3: from the team and they knew that he was there
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Speaker 3: and then there you said he posted from the flight,
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Speaker 3: and I was like, well, don't they know he was
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Speaker 3: in the flight.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, or he was with the team, He traveled
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Speaker 1: with the team.
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Speaker 3: The team knew that then, Yeah, okay, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: For some reason, I thought there was confusion on that.
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Speaker 1: They held the lineup he didn't show up. They held
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Speaker 1: the lineup ti the less possible minute and then they
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Speaker 1: called it a personal matter. Now he was on the
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Speaker 1: phone and Tory Lavulo, their manager is very close to
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Speaker 1: him and was in text contact with him, wouldn't reveal
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Speaker 1: what they were talking about. Lavilla got very emotional talking
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Speaker 1: about it. He had was going to start as the
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Speaker 1: DH and they held the lineup back until twenty minutes
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Speaker 1: before the game, and then they submitted that.
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Speaker 3: He was not playing and they changed it. Now this
39:08
Speaker 3: happened before. We need to go home and attend to something, right,
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Speaker 3: and I forget what country. Well it was coming out
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Speaker 3: of the All Star break.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like they couldn't reach him and he
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Speaker 1: was in the Dominican Republic. In Republic, Okay, he went home,
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Speaker 1: but anyway, Lavulo, they lost eleven to one last night
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Speaker 1: amid all the distraction Lavulo said, quote, it's been a
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Speaker 1: crazy day. All I know is that he's dealing with
39:29
Speaker 1: personal issue. We're trying to figure that out. He didn't
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Speaker 1: show up today and he was put on the restricted list.
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Speaker 1: That's as much as I know right now. I was
39:35
Speaker 1: just doing my best to reach out to him and
39:37
Speaker 1: there was very little coming back.
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Speaker 3: Well, it could be a number of things. Is we
39:42
Speaker 3: know Drew, It could be a number of things. The
39:44
Speaker 3: first thing you hope for is.
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Speaker 1: At all is well with him and his family. Like
39:47
Speaker 1: you just never know.
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Speaker 3: We had this situation with Romeo Dobbs when he just
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Speaker 3: was not you know, he's kind of a a wall
39:52
Speaker 3: for that week. Yep, and you go through and you
39:55
Speaker 3: realize some guys, there's a lot going on for some guys,
39:58
Speaker 3: and we have really had no idea what so it'll
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Speaker 3: be interesting as Yeah.
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Speaker 2: That's unfolds in the coming days.
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Speaker 1: Geraldo Perdomo, who's a short sep one of Marte's closest
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Speaker 1: friends on the team, said, I don't know anything. I
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Speaker 1: just came here to play. I didn't see him here
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Speaker 1: and we haven't talked yet. At the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: we're a family. We're going to support everybody, no matter what.
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Speaker 1: So we just came here to play. That's the only
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Speaker 1: goal we have right now, just to win. Right they're
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Speaker 1: battling for a National League wildcard spot. Now they're one
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Speaker 1: game behind the Padres, who also lost last night, in
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Speaker 1: the race for the final wildcard spot. There are two
40:29
Speaker 1: games behind the Phillies, who have the number two spots,
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Speaker 1: so the Diamondbacks are right in it. Corbyn Carrol, I
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Speaker 1: think you get sum it up as a weird day,
40:39
Speaker 1: that's for sure. I thought the coaches did a good
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Speaker 1: job of handling it, making sure we were prepared. Interesting stuff,
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Speaker 1: drama outside of Milwaukee. Billy Schmid's going to join us momentarily.
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