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- 0:03Speaker 1: This is HBR News number 570, Patrick Clancy on 60 Minutes,
- 0:08Speaker 1: where we discuss the news of the week and give
- 0:11Speaker 1: it the badger treatment. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening everyone.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Welcome back to Honey Badger Radio. I hope you guys
- 0:24Speaker 1: are doing well this week and that you are laughing
- 0:25Speaker 1: at all of the absurdity so that you are not
- 0:27Speaker 1: consumed by it. I'm your host, Brian, and I'm joined by,
- 0:30Speaker 1: as always... My lovely co-hosts, Hannah Wallin and Dr.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Ranamercam.
- 0:36Speaker 1: And I think, Mike, is your audio working? I want
- 0:39Speaker 1: you to say something. Test it out.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Mike? Uh-oh. Hello? Yes, yes, you're good.
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- 0:52Speaker 1: we're good now. So, anyway, we have a... You know,
- 0:56Speaker 1: I hesitate to say great because it's often, like, not
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- 1:02Speaker 1: you guys. So please continue the conversations both in the
- 1:05Speaker 1: chat as well as the comment section. On this week's
- 1:09Speaker 1: HBR News, we're going to be talking about the 60
- 1:13Speaker 1: Minutes interview with Patrick Clancy, only because we've been talking
- 1:16Speaker 1: about the Lindsay Clancy case, specifically the reaction to it.
- 1:19Speaker 1: And it's like, well, let's give the man that this
- 1:22Speaker 1: whole story seems to be revolving around a chance to
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- 3:35Speaker 1: the information. But anyway, with all of that out of
- 3:38Speaker 1: the way, let us get into today's stories. So, Patrick
- 3:44Speaker 1: Clancy has finally come forward, I guess, in his first
- 3:48Speaker 1: televised interview on 60 Minutes, which aired just two days
- 3:52Speaker 1: ago on September 20th, 2026, shortly after the mistrial in
- 3:58Speaker 1: the murder case against his ex-wife, Lindsay Clancy, for the
- 4:02Speaker 1: 2023 strangling deaths of their three young children. Patrick Clancy
- 4:06Speaker 1: spoke at length about his ongoing grief, memories of the children,
- 4:10Speaker 1: and his decision to forgive Lindsay due to her postpartum
- 4:14Speaker 1: mental illness. Yes, Patrick Clancy also, to a degree, supported
- 4:18Speaker 1: the idea that his wife had a postpartum episode. which
- 4:24Speaker 1: could also be something that I don't know if it will,
- 4:28Speaker 1: but it could be a factor in determining her guilt
- 4:31Speaker 1: or innocence. So he also directly addressed the intense online
- 4:35Speaker 1: reaction to the case, particularly the wave of unsupported conspiracy
- 4:39Speaker 1: theories that have circulated on social media, including claims that
- 4:43Speaker 1: he was uncaring, unfaithful, or even responsible for the killings himself.
- 4:48Speaker 1: And also that he is a narcissist and the other
- 4:50Speaker 1: sort of like, you know, um, psychobabble speech that people
- 4:55Speaker 1: online often use. Clancy described the theories as deeply harmful
- 5:01Speaker 1: to the legacy of my children, calling them, quote, a
- 5:04Speaker 1: huge distraction from what really matters here, which is perinatal
- 5:09Speaker 1: mental health, end quote, and noting that they have, quote,
- 5:12Speaker 1: done real harm to real people, myself included, but also others,
- 5:16Speaker 1: end quote. He further characterized the online discourse as painful
- 5:19Speaker 1: to see, explaining that the constant repetition of falsehoods can
- 5:24Speaker 1: lead some people to believe them and that the scrutiny
- 5:27Speaker 1: has made it more difficult for him to appear in public.
- 5:30Speaker 1: While the broader online conversation, much of it driven by
- 5:34Speaker 1: commentary that draws parallels to women's experiences with supposed unsupportive
- 5:39Speaker 1: partners during postpartum struggles, has included significant criticism and speculation
- 5:45Speaker 1: directed at Clancy. He framed his response around the overall
- 5:49Speaker 1: damage caused by the baseless claims rather than attributing them
- 5:53Speaker 1: to any specific group, emphasizing instead the need to refocus
- 5:57Speaker 1: attention on mental health issues surrounding the tragedy. Now, before
- 6:01Speaker 1: I give the floor to you guys, Hannah and Mike,
- 6:04Speaker 1: to give your thoughts on this, I just want to
- 6:06Speaker 1: say that this is a 60 minutes interview. It was
- 6:09Speaker 1: likely highly edited. They most likely spoke for much longer
- 6:12Speaker 1: than what you guys got in the final product. And
- 6:16Speaker 1: I think that on some level, like, you know, I'm
- 6:19Speaker 1: thinking about the fact that he's essentially forgiven Lindsay Clancy
- 6:23Speaker 1: for this. And I think some people are going to
- 6:25Speaker 1: use that, um, either to attack him for forgiving her
- 6:30Speaker 1: or to, let's say, um, use it as evidence against him.
- 6:36Speaker 1: Like the, these, you know, these women on TikTok that
- 6:38Speaker 1: think he's, he did something and that he's only saying
- 6:41Speaker 1: that to like look good for the cameras or something,
- 6:44Speaker 1: which this is all stuff I've seen online. I've seen
- 6:47Speaker 1: a lot of insane reactions unhinged from women online, not
- 6:52Speaker 1: just on TikTok, on X and everywhere else. But I
- 6:56Speaker 1: just want to say that I think that you can
- 6:59Speaker 1: want to forgive someone, but also expect that they are
- 7:02Speaker 1: going to be punished to the full extent of the
- 7:04Speaker 1: law if that's what it comes down to. So I
- 7:07Speaker 1: don't think he wants Lindsay Clancy necessarily to be seen
- 7:11Speaker 1: as innocent. I think he wants to let the trial
- 7:13Speaker 1: play out the way it should, and wherever it lands,
- 7:15Speaker 1: he'd probably just make peace with that, because this did happen, like,
- 7:19Speaker 1: a year ago, or at least, like, the case has
- 7:21Speaker 1: been going on for over a year, actually. She did
- 7:23Speaker 1: the deed in 2023, and it's 2026 now, so. He
- 7:27Speaker 1: had since, obviously, moved on and such. So, and also,
- 7:32Speaker 1: I think that he is thinking, like I was saying before,
- 7:34Speaker 1: I think he's thinking forgiveness in the Christian sense of saying, look,
- 7:40Speaker 1: I can't carry this anger and resentment towards you my
- 7:44Speaker 1: whole life. I have to let it go. So, you know,
- 7:47Speaker 1: I forgive you. This is like also to absolve myself
- 7:50Speaker 1: to some degree of like carrying the weight of feeling
- 7:54Speaker 1: all that anger for someone who murdered my children. But
- 7:57Speaker 1: I do also expect that he'd be okay if they
- 8:00Speaker 1: basically found her guilty and threw her in jail. I
- 8:03Speaker 1: don't think he would be like the women that were
- 8:05Speaker 1: supporting her unconditionally. So I just think that's something worth
- 8:09Speaker 1: pointing out. And I think, yeah, it takes a lot
- 8:11Speaker 1: of strength to be able to do that, in my opinion.
- 8:16Speaker 1: So I understand where that's coming from. But I do
- 8:18Speaker 1: think that people are going to use that to blame
- 8:22Speaker 1: him for this. So anyway, and of course, he's trying
- 8:28Speaker 1: to be above all the nonsense by doing it this way.
- 8:32Speaker 1: So there's also that. Of course, 60 Minutes doesn't have
- 8:36Speaker 1: a problem turning this into a little bit of a
- 8:39Speaker 1: circus because it has been a bit of a circus
- 8:41Speaker 1: on the internet. So 60 Minutes wants to benefit from that,
- 8:45Speaker 1: get their clicks and money, get the scoop. So again,
- 8:48Speaker 1: it is par for the course in terms of the media.
- 8:51Speaker 1: But anyway, off the top of my head, those are
- 8:54Speaker 1: my initial thoughts on this. I don't know if any
- 8:57Speaker 1: of you guys have seen the whole interview or if
- 8:58Speaker 1: you just saw clips floating around or what. But I
- 9:03Speaker 1: saw some clips of him talking about what happened with
- 9:05Speaker 1: his kids. And it was tough because one of them
- 9:08Speaker 1: lived for, I want to say, for a couple of
- 9:11Speaker 1: days after the incident. Maybe hours. I can't remember which
- 9:16Speaker 1: it was.
- 9:16Speaker 3: It was like four days.
- 9:18Speaker 1: It was like four days. Yeah, and he stayed with
- 9:20Speaker 1: the child until they finally did pass away. So, you know,
- 9:26Speaker 1: he was involved still. You know, he was still a
- 9:28Speaker 1: father even after all that. But anyway, I will cede
- 9:31Speaker 1: the floor to anyone who wants to speak now.
- 9:37Speaker 4: Mike, did you want to talk before I do?
- 9:39Speaker 2: I can.
- 9:40Speaker 3: Go right ahead.
- 9:43Speaker 2: Well, the worst thing is, well, the worst thing is
- 9:46Speaker 2: the three dead kids. But aside from that, when someone
- 9:51Speaker 2: refers to Clancy, you have to think for a second
- 9:55Speaker 2: about which Clancy they're talking about. And isn't that the icing?
- 10:00Speaker 2: on the shit cake? This is his legacy. This is
- 10:03Speaker 2: his name's legacy. This is how his name will go
- 10:06Speaker 2: down in history. Not for anything he accomplished or anything
- 10:12Speaker 2: his father or his father's father accomplished and so on.
- 10:16Speaker 2: He gave his name to a woman And that woman
- 10:20Speaker 2: turned out to be a psychopath. And subsequently, the general
- 10:26Speaker 2: female population made her famous. Generations from now, people will say, Clancy,
- 10:33Speaker 2: I know that name. Something to do with the catalyst
- 10:37Speaker 2: that historically set off the chain reaction that ended up
- 10:41Speaker 2: bringing down the woke dinosaur once and for all, right?
- 10:45Speaker 2: Clancy is the name of the ethereal demon. that made
- 10:50Speaker 2: the whole world see feminism for what it is which
- 10:54Speaker 2: will be a real kick in the teeth for Patrick
- 10:56Speaker 2: Clancy's descendants oh shit yeah he doesn't have any they
- 11:03Speaker 2: all got murdered well maybe he'll make some more descendants
- 11:10Speaker 2: but I wouldn't blame him if he develops a complex
- 11:14Speaker 2: about that sort of thing and you know If a
- 11:18Speaker 2: woman has the right to keep her own name in
- 11:22Speaker 2: the event of marriage or do whatever she likes with
- 11:25Speaker 2: her own name, does a man conversely have the legal
- 11:29Speaker 2: option to strip his name from his ex-wife if and
- 11:32Speaker 2: when she tarnishes it quite as much as this? And
- 11:39Speaker 2: if not, why not? She's out here sort of going,
- 11:44Speaker 2: I am Clancy, hear me roar. Watch me strangle this
- 11:48Speaker 2: man's children and get away with it. Doesn't the original
- 11:52Speaker 2: Clancy have the option to say, No, you are not Clancy.
- 11:57Speaker 2: I hereby revoke your right to bear my name. Give
- 12:01Speaker 2: me that. If you want to tarnish someone's name, it
- 12:04Speaker 2: should be your father's name. Preferably your mother's maiden name. Shit,
- 12:10Speaker 2: I guess that's just her grandfather's name. One way or another,
- 12:14Speaker 2: this is going to get pinned on a man who
- 12:15Speaker 2: didn't do anything wrong. But at least we can kick
- 12:19Speaker 2: the can a couple of generations back up the road.
- 12:23Speaker 2: And if not, why not? It kind of sucks for
- 12:27Speaker 2: other people called Lindsay, too. I'm thinking of our Lindsay.
- 12:34Speaker 2: They should all get together and sign a petition to
- 12:36Speaker 2: strip her of that name, too. She can't call herself
- 12:39Speaker 2: Clancy and she can't call herself Lindsay. Otherwise, the name
- 12:45Speaker 2: is going to go the way of Adolph. you know,
- 12:49Speaker 2: because of Adolf Dassler, the founder of Adidas, the name
- 12:55Speaker 2: that has become synonymous with sportswear that looks cheap and
- 12:59Speaker 2: common but is unaccountably expensive. We need to save the
- 13:03Speaker 2: name Lindsay and we need to save the name Clancy.
- 13:07Speaker 2: This murderer should be called Feminist Patient Zero because, as
- 13:14Speaker 2: I said, she will be the case that opens the
- 13:17Speaker 2: world's eyes to the boundless evil of feminism and what
- 13:22Speaker 2: it excuses that might be wishful thinking on my part
- 13:27Speaker 2: but permit me a pill of whatever colour represents not
- 13:35Speaker 2: hope just wishful thinking not quite white but off-white I'm
- 13:41Speaker 2: thinking beige maybe pinkish brownish white The color of European skin.
- 13:48Speaker 2: Is that racist? Okay, let's go for it. This is
- 13:51Speaker 2: your flesh tone pill for today. Or what we used
- 13:56Speaker 2: to call flesh tone. Either way, enjoy it while you
- 14:00Speaker 2: still can. Someone else talk.
- 14:07Speaker 4: You really can't fault Mr. Clancy for not wanting to
- 14:12Speaker 4: view his ex-wife as As responsible for what she did.
- 14:18Speaker 4: Because he would have to. Think of you know. What
- 14:22Speaker 4: he married. I don't think he's right about her diagnosis.
- 14:29Speaker 4: I don't know what his. Actual work is.
- 14:32Speaker 3: What he does.
- 14:34Speaker 4: If he has any expertise or not. But I think
- 14:37Speaker 4: if she had.
- 14:40Speaker 3: Postpartum.
- 14:41Speaker 4: Psychosis.
- 14:43Speaker 3: Her doctors.
- 14:45Speaker 4: The multitude of physicians and therapists that she had been
- 14:52Speaker 4: treating with, someone in that group would have figured it out.
- 14:56Speaker 4: It would have been, the symptoms would have been there.
- 14:59Speaker 4: I think that she tried very hard to get that diagnosis.
- 15:06Speaker 4: And she was trying so hard to get that diagnosis
- 15:10Speaker 4: that she ignored what she was told. that she had,
- 15:13Speaker 4: what problems she was told that she had, and, uh,
- 15:17Speaker 4: didn't take the medications that she was prescribed, or at
- 15:20Speaker 4: least didn't take the full doses. Um, so, it's challenging,
- 15:28Speaker 4: because a man wants to believe his wife, a man
- 15:31Speaker 4: wants to believe his own judgment, and a man wants
- 15:36Speaker 4: to believe that he would have known if, uh, If
- 15:42Speaker 4: his wife was a psychopath or a sociopath. But that's
- 15:47Speaker 4: the problem with psychopaths and sociopaths. Most of the time
- 15:51Speaker 4: you can tell because they're stupid. Actually, most psychopaths are
- 15:57Speaker 4: lower than normal IQ. And many of them are intellectually disabled.
- 16:04Speaker 4: But when you encounter one who is... above average IQ,
- 16:11Speaker 4: who's smart enough to, say, pass the medical boards to
- 16:18Speaker 4: become a nurse, then you're in a different ballgame. They
- 16:25Speaker 4: can sort of hide everything from you about who they
- 16:29Speaker 4: are and what they are. And they learn to mimic normalcy.
- 16:37Speaker 4: And the moment you figure it out is a very
- 16:40Speaker 4: terrifying moment. That you realize that you've been associating with
- 16:45Speaker 4: a psychopath. And that individual is on the inside a
- 16:52Speaker 4: bit of a monster. And it's not just because they're
- 16:56Speaker 4: a psychopath, but because they know it and they're okay
- 16:59Speaker 4: with it.
- 17:01Speaker 1: Right?
- 17:02Speaker 4: And it's a lot less scary... To convince yourself this
- 17:07Speaker 4: person has some other type of mental illness. There's something
- 17:11Speaker 4: else wrong with the person.
- 17:13Speaker 3: They need help.
- 17:14Speaker 4: They aren't getting the help they need. They aren't okay.
- 17:19Speaker 4: And they're not trying to victimize you. And they haven't
- 17:24Speaker 4: willfully victimized your family members. Your loved ones. Then it
- 17:30Speaker 4: is to accept... I've had a monster next to me
- 17:34Speaker 4: all this time and I didn't realize it. Its teeth
- 17:38Speaker 4: were this close to my neck for this long and
- 17:43Speaker 4: I didn't realize it. It's like discovering that you've walked
- 17:52Speaker 4: the entire length of some cave tour only to come
- 17:56Speaker 4: out and see a poisonous snake wrapped around your leg.
- 18:02Speaker 4: It's terrifying.
- 18:05Speaker 3: And. It's a.
- 18:11Speaker 4: It's not surprising. When someone has been through that.
- 18:16Speaker 3: That they would. They would try to rationalize.
- 18:19Speaker 2: You know. It's not.
- 18:21Speaker 4: It's not a shock. That they would try to. Not
- 18:27Speaker 4: experience that realization. And that fear.
- 18:31Speaker 2: And.
- 18:33Speaker 4: Maybe it's just that Mr. Clancy has a very kind
- 18:35Speaker 4: heart and it's no good to him or anybody else
- 18:41Speaker 4: for him to carry anger. But there is a little
- 18:46Speaker 4: bit of, you know, there's a bit of confirmation bias
- 18:51Speaker 4: that you develop when you're trying to avoid being afraid
- 18:57Speaker 4: of somebody or being reminded that you should have been
- 19:01Speaker 4: afraid of somebody. But in the meantime, this poor man
- 19:07Speaker 4: and everything that he's been through, he's possibly going to
- 19:12Speaker 4: have to go through it all again. The trial, the
- 19:16Speaker 4: media circus, and everything. And the other monsters, like the,
- 19:27Speaker 4: we should start calling them the Momster Squad. posted things
- 19:34Speaker 4: like same lindsey and crap like that that are attacking
- 19:38Speaker 4: him as potentially guilty of something he could not have
- 19:42Speaker 4: done or not preventing something he could not have prevented
- 19:47Speaker 4: um I hope that he sues the shit out of
- 19:54Speaker 4: several of them and wins not just because he deserves
- 19:58Speaker 4: the money but because they deserve the punishment and the
- 20:04Speaker 4: rest of the women deserve to be scared that that
- 20:06Speaker 4: could happen to them too People should be afraid to
- 20:13Speaker 4: wrongfully accuse an individual like this in public. They should
- 20:20Speaker 4: be afraid to falsely accuse anyone. The consequences of any
- 20:27Speaker 4: kind of false accusation should be so high that people
- 20:33Speaker 4: should feel just about that, just making the accusation, Not
- 20:39Speaker 4: pushing it to court, not going to police with it,
- 20:41Speaker 4: just making a false accusation. They should feel the same
- 20:45Speaker 4: about that as they feel about standing on the edge
- 20:49Speaker 4: of a cliff and then testing their balance by lifting
- 20:54Speaker 4: their leg over the edge and stuff like that. It
- 20:58Speaker 4: should be that scary. And unfortunately right now it's not.
- 21:05Speaker 4: Women level false allegations.
- 21:09Speaker 3: At people.
- 21:10Speaker 4: Like they're firing off a squirt gun with nothing in
- 21:13Speaker 4: it but water. And that has to change. Because nobody
- 21:19Speaker 4: should go through. What Patrick Clancy went through. During his
- 21:24Speaker 4: ex-wife's trial. That is such absolute bullshit to do to him.
- 21:33Speaker 4: And nobody should have to go through that.
- 21:36Speaker 2: So.
- 21:39Speaker 4: I hope he wins his cases. And that's, that's the
- 21:42Speaker 4: gist of it.
- 21:45Speaker 2: Same.
- 21:47Speaker 1: I did see the term woman question making the rounds
- 21:51Speaker 1: on the internets. So I guess no matter what happens, people,
- 21:57Speaker 1: especially men, they're going to be looking at this at
- 22:00Speaker 1: women in a different way, I think.
- 22:02Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 22:04Speaker 1: So, and I mean, look, all I have, all I
- 22:06Speaker 1: ever like wanted is for them to stop looking at
- 22:10Speaker 1: them with rose-tinted glasses and just see them as humans,
- 22:13Speaker 1: capable of all the same false failings and foibles that
- 22:18Speaker 1: men have. So if that's what it takes, something really extreme,
- 22:22Speaker 1: that's what it takes.
- 22:25Speaker 4: Need to get men to understand that no matter what
- 22:30Speaker 4: your culture tells you, vetting women for character is not misogyny.
- 22:38Speaker 4: Even if The elements that you're vetting. Are things like
- 22:42Speaker 4: her temper. Which she's supposedly allowed to have. And her
- 22:46Speaker 4: sexual history. If you are not okay. With her sexual history.
- 22:55Speaker 3: You have the right. You have the right.
- 23:00Speaker 4: To not consent.
- 23:02Speaker 3: To a relationship with her.
- 23:04Speaker 4: Much less sex. And if you're not okay with her temper.
- 23:09Speaker 4: You sure as shit have the right. To not take
- 23:13Speaker 4: responsibility for her.
- 23:14Speaker 3: In any way. And that means.
- 23:17Speaker 4: Not involving yourself with her.
- 23:21Speaker 3: Like that is.
- 23:23Speaker 4: Bottom line. Basics.
- 23:26Speaker 3: Not even.
- 23:28Speaker 4: Extending yourself there. You have both of those rights.
- 23:32Speaker 3: And far too many women. Far too many women. Get upset.
- 23:38Speaker 4: If a guy doesn't accept a sexual history that he's
- 23:42Speaker 4: not comfortable with, or if he doesn't accept temperamental behavior
- 23:48Speaker 4: that he's not comfortable with, if she flies off the
- 23:51Speaker 4: handle because of some minor thing with you, you also
- 23:56Speaker 4: have to worry that she might fly off the handle
- 23:59Speaker 4: at your children, or she might fly off the handle
- 24:02Speaker 4: at some guy that's going to attack you in retaliation
- 24:05Speaker 4: in a public place. Both of those things are things
- 24:08Speaker 4: you don't want. And so you don't have to tolerate
- 24:12Speaker 4: any behavior from a woman that you would suggest to
- 24:16Speaker 4: one of your buddies. Man, I thought you would have
- 24:18Speaker 4: grown out of that by this age. Just saying. Yeah.
- 24:28Speaker 1: Well, let us know what you guys think about this
- 24:30Speaker 1: one in the comments. I did get a super chow.
- 24:33Speaker 1: So I'm going to read it out really quick from
- 24:35Speaker 1: Meredith G. who gives us five and says, HBR News 570,
- 24:40Speaker 1: Patrick Clancy's forgiveness is interesting. I saw an interview with
- 24:43Speaker 1: a couple who struggled with postpartum psychosis, and the couple
- 24:47Speaker 1: chose to get the children to safety as the wife
- 24:50Speaker 1: was struggling through the first bot. The first bot and
- 24:55Speaker 1: then had a different safety plan during the second bot.
- 25:01Speaker 4: That was probably about.
- 25:03Speaker 3: Bout?
- 25:03Speaker 1: Oh, the bout.
- 25:04Speaker 2: Okay, yeah.
- 25:05Speaker 1: Bout of depression, I guess. And their commentary is the
- 25:09Speaker 1: husband would have wanted to see his wife criminally punished,
- 25:12Speaker 1: and the wife said if she ever hurt her children,
- 25:15Speaker 1: wouldn't want to be alive if she had done that.
- 25:17Speaker 1: She would want the maximum punishment. Yeah. I imagine that
- 25:21Speaker 1: if it was something that was out of your control
- 25:23Speaker 1: and it happened, you would be extremely remorseful and repentant,
- 25:28Speaker 1: and you would probably be like, just do, like, how
- 25:31Speaker 1: could you continue on knowing that you've done that, which
- 25:34Speaker 1: is just sort of like further reinforces my, you know,
- 25:38Speaker 1: what I think is that she did it on purpose.
- 25:40Speaker 1: It was premeditated. I think that that's relatively plain to
- 25:44Speaker 1: see based on everything that we know about the case.
- 25:47Speaker 1: And again, I'm not going to drag that out again.
- 25:49Speaker 1: We've already talked about it. But ultimately, as I said before,
- 25:52Speaker 1: the case is not really the story. The story is
- 25:55Speaker 1: the reaction of the case from women who feel as
- 25:58Speaker 1: though ultimately the reason why it's interesting to me is
- 26:04Speaker 1: the women who are coping and they're trying to create
- 26:08Speaker 1: alternative narratives and they're trying to, you know, blame Patrick
- 26:12Speaker 1: in some way or whatever it is. They see a
- 26:16Speaker 1: Lindsay Clancy guilty verdict as a condemnation of themselves. And yes,
- 26:22Speaker 1: it's solipsistic. It's basically making something that's got nothing to
- 26:26Speaker 1: do with you all about you. But I think that's
- 26:29Speaker 1: the only logical explanation is that there are women who
- 26:31Speaker 1: have like, had the intrusive thoughts maybe, and they didn't
- 26:35Speaker 1: act on them, but they really wanted to. And so
- 26:38Speaker 1: when you have a woman who actually acted on them,
- 26:41Speaker 1: get punished, they're like, Oh, that could have been me.
- 26:44Speaker 1: I could have been that person. So I got to
- 26:45Speaker 1: defend her on that. And I think it ultimately is
- 26:49Speaker 1: about taking something that's got nothing to do with them
- 26:51Speaker 1: and making it about them. And they're acting on that.
- 26:54Speaker 2: So. Yeah.
- 26:55Speaker 4: I think part of it is just the fact that,
- 26:58Speaker 4: you know, how women will take, some terrible thing that
- 27:03Speaker 4: some fucked up guy did that you learn more about
- 27:07Speaker 4: him and you find out that it's not a standalone thing.
- 27:13Speaker 4: He has all kinds of other things wrong, some kind
- 27:15Speaker 4: of mental illness, some kind of drug use. He's got
- 27:18Speaker 4: a history of crime and so on. Then they'll shove
- 27:23Speaker 4: it in the faces of guys who have done nothing
- 27:25Speaker 4: wrong and don't want to be treated like they are
- 27:28Speaker 4: that guy. and say, well, he represents you because you're
- 27:32Speaker 4: both men. They may, because they say that about men,
- 27:38Speaker 4: they may look at this and say, well, we've been
- 27:41Speaker 4: doing this to men for so long. Now, you know,
- 27:44Speaker 4: this is what they're doing back to us. And I've
- 27:48Speaker 4: encountered woman after woman on X that doesn't understand that
- 27:54Speaker 4: what men are objecting to in regard to this case
- 27:59Speaker 4: isn't that they think all women are represented by Lindsay Clancy.
- 28:06Speaker 4: They're objecting because all women are appearing to support what
- 28:11Speaker 4: Lindsay Clancy did as a thing that's okay for women
- 28:15Speaker 4: to do because of hormones. And they don't realize the
- 28:21Speaker 4: difference between representing all women by one anecdote versus.
- 28:29Speaker 4: Worrying about the number of women who are okay with
- 28:32Speaker 4: that one anecdote and don't think that that woman did
- 28:36Speaker 4: anything wrong.
- 28:39Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, let us know what you guys think about
- 28:42Speaker 1: this story in the comments. Do you agree with Patrick
- 28:46Speaker 1: Clancy forgiving his wife? Or do you think you would
- 28:51Speaker 1: probably not be so charitable? Let me know what you
- 28:54Speaker 1: guys think in the comments. We're going to move on
- 28:55Speaker 1: to the next story in the meantime.
- 28:58Speaker 4: So.
- 29:00Speaker 1: Um, interesting little follow-up here. So, a 34-year-old Kansas City,
- 29:06Speaker 1: Missouri woman named Sharifa Nicole Henderson has been federally indicted
- 29:14Speaker 1: in the Eastern District of Texas on three counts of
- 29:17Speaker 1: interstate threatening communications.
- 29:21Speaker 2: Weird law.
- 29:21Speaker 1: The charges stem from alleged death threats she made against
- 29:26Speaker 1: the family of Austin Metcalf, the 17-year-old who was fatally
- 29:30Speaker 1: stabbed by Carmelo Anthony at a high school track meet
- 29:33Speaker 1: in Frisco, Texas in April of 2025. Anthony was convicted
- 29:39Speaker 1: of murder and sentenced to 35 years in prison on
- 29:42Speaker 1: or around June 9, 2026. Prosecutors say Henderson sent the
- 29:47Speaker 1: threats via Facebook Messenger and a phone call to Collin
- 29:51Speaker 1: County officials in the days immediately following the verdict. So
- 29:55Speaker 1: here's another person not happy with the verdict. Another woman,
- 29:59Speaker 1: by the way. According to the indictment, the messages included
- 30:02Speaker 1: statements that she would kill family members, put them in
- 30:06Speaker 1: a body bag, demolish the family, strangle one of them
- 30:10Speaker 1: with exercise bands, and hump them forever while warning they
- 30:14Speaker 1: would always have to look over their shoulders. Henderson was
- 30:17Speaker 1: arrested in Kansas City on September 11th. Never forget. 2026,
- 30:22Speaker 1: two days after the grand jury indictment, and is being
- 30:25Speaker 1: transported to Texas to face charges. each of which carry
- 30:29Speaker 1: a potential sentence of up to five years in prison.
- 30:32Speaker 1: Austin Metcalf's father, Jeff Metcalf, said that the family has
- 30:36Speaker 1: received more than 100 threats since the trial ended. So,
- 30:42Speaker 1: interesting parallels.
- 30:44Speaker 2: Go on. I don't even understand what the family did wrong.
- 30:48Speaker 2: The Metcalf family, I mean, the Antony family have proved
- 30:52Speaker 2: themselves to be corrupt assholes since day one. I remember
- 30:56Speaker 2: covering this story back last year. Much like the fan
- 31:02Speaker 2: club of Feminist Patient Zero, they've always been hell-bent on
- 31:09Speaker 2: putting a dead-to-right murderer back on the streets as soon
- 31:14Speaker 2: as possible. If anyone should be getting death threats, it's, well,
- 31:20Speaker 2: no one, but It's a sad indictment of the world
- 31:24Speaker 2: we live in that the victims are the ones getting
- 31:28Speaker 2: re-victimized over and over again for the crime of, Chex notes,
- 31:34Speaker 2: absolutely nothing. It's immaterial whether or not they pressed any charges, right?
- 31:42Speaker 2: Charges don't need to be pressed when it comes to
- 31:45Speaker 2: murder of any degree. It can't exactly be waived, can it?
- 31:51Speaker 2: If you kill someone, the state is obliged to charge you. So,
- 31:56Speaker 2: what the fuck? Even if you think Austin Metcalf did
- 31:59Speaker 2: anything wrong, even if you think he was a raging
- 32:03Speaker 2: racist who poked and prodded some poor black kid out
- 32:07Speaker 2: of nothing but spite, if you want revenge to be
- 32:11Speaker 2: taken out, I'd say you already got your wish. Did
- 32:16Speaker 2: you not? The guy's dead. How dare you tell a
- 32:21Speaker 2: black kid where he is and is not allowed to sit? Something, something,
- 32:25Speaker 2: Jim Crow, something, something, Rosa Parks. This is an outrage.
- 32:28Speaker 2: You deserve to be executed. Okay, well, justice has already
- 32:34Speaker 2: been served. Your rather warped idea of justice has already
- 32:39Speaker 2: been carried out. With bells and whistles and flying colours,
- 32:43Speaker 2: you killed Whitey. You fucking executed him. You did it.
- 32:48Speaker 2: But apparently it's not enough. One honour killing is not enough.
- 32:53Speaker 2: Now his whole family needs to die just by virtue
- 32:58Speaker 2: of being his family. Well, not even by virtue, by
- 33:01Speaker 2: the dishonour of being his family. I would have thought
- 33:05Speaker 2: this was a system that we left behind thousands of
- 33:08Speaker 2: years ago in the days of tribal warfare. But even
- 33:12Speaker 2: in those days, if a member of a tribe wandered
- 33:17Speaker 2: into another tribe's tent... It was generally expected that they
- 33:23Speaker 2: would be told to leave that tent. I mean, they'd
- 33:26Speaker 2: probably be killed for such trespassing, let's be honest. And
- 33:32Speaker 2: the chieftain, upon hearing the news, would probably say, yeah,
- 33:37Speaker 2: fair enough. What the fuck was he doing trespassing on
- 33:40Speaker 2: a rival tribe's territory? It's very much how niggers get murked.
- 33:47Speaker 2: Fuck him, he gets the Darwin Award. We don't want
- 33:50Speaker 2: his defective, retarded genes gunking up our blood and our soil.
- 33:54Speaker 2: But nowadays, a member of a certain tribe can not
- 34:03Speaker 2: only invade another tribe, but he can do so with
- 34:06Speaker 2: the intent of stabbing someone to death and then stab
- 34:08Speaker 2: someone to death. And the tribe of the murdered teenager
- 34:15Speaker 2: has to just let him go. Even if the police
- 34:19Speaker 2: come to arrest the murderer, then apparently the invaded tribe
- 34:25Speaker 2: should somehow shoo the police away, going, no, no, no,
- 34:31Speaker 2: you must not arrest this innocent murderer. He didn't do nothing.
- 34:38Speaker 2: We have no need for policing. We have no need
- 34:40Speaker 2: for law and order. We deserve to be killed by
- 34:44Speaker 2: any shadow beast who enters our tent. Anything short of that,
- 34:50Speaker 2: and they deserve to be killed. If you don't accept
- 34:55Speaker 2: your murder, you should and will be murdered. It's kind
- 35:02Speaker 2: of fucked up, isn't it? Persons of European descent are
- 35:06Speaker 2: not permitted even a partial speck of in-group preference. Meanwhile,
- 35:12Speaker 2: everyone else is living in Stone Age tribal warfare where
- 35:16Speaker 2: you can just lop someone's head off and blame it
- 35:18Speaker 2: on the Vikings. Like, how the hell did we get here?
- 35:23Speaker 2: And what's to be done? There's a range of possible solutions,
- 35:32Speaker 2: none of which I am at liberty to elaborate because
- 35:38Speaker 2: I do not have that freedom of speech. as a
- 35:40Speaker 2: member of the tribe that is not allowed to be
- 35:44Speaker 2: a tribe. All I can do is implore the purveyors
- 35:51Speaker 2: of this racial caste system to cease purveying it. The media,
- 35:59Speaker 2: the schools, the government, etc. The institutions that persist in
- 36:04Speaker 2: insisting that melanin constitutes a human right to commit crime.
- 36:14Speaker 2: And I'm going to keep saying this to these institutions,
- 36:16Speaker 2: but they're not going to listen. Because they're not in
- 36:19Speaker 2: the business of listening. They are strictly in the business
- 36:22Speaker 2: of dictating. The only people who are in the business
- 36:27Speaker 2: of listening are you lot, our dear listeners. And that's
- 36:33Speaker 2: why we're here. And yet we still have to put
- 36:36Speaker 2: up with Arguments along the lines of, all you do
- 36:41Speaker 2: is talk, Mike. Yes, it's all I'm allowed to do.
- 36:46Speaker 2: So I do it. Who exactly are you to cast
- 36:50Speaker 2: the first stone? Whoever you are. Are you on an
- 36:54Speaker 2: actual crusade? A physical crusade? Are you putting your money
- 36:58Speaker 2: where your mouth is and going around rounding up the
- 37:01Speaker 2: enemy and sending them back to the fiery pits of
- 37:04Speaker 2: Mount Doom from whence they came? No, you too, whoever
- 37:08Speaker 2: you are. are doing nothing but talking. And you're not
- 37:12Speaker 2: even shitting on the enemy. You're shitting on your own
- 37:15Speaker 2: tribe for not doing enough when you're not doing enough either.
- 37:22Speaker 2: Sick of it. Just fucking sick of it. You have
- 37:25Speaker 2: no idea how black-pilled I am, folks. The dooming that
- 37:29Speaker 2: you can see emerging from my mouth is only the
- 37:32Speaker 2: tip of the iceberg. If I could express just how
- 37:35Speaker 2: black-pilled I am, it would blind you. It would give
- 37:39Speaker 2: you an endless migraine cluster headache and make you projectile
- 37:43Speaker 2: shit and vomit until there's nothing left of you but skin.
- 37:48Speaker 2: But I know you don't want to hear it, so
- 37:50Speaker 2: I hold back. You might call it cowardice, but I
- 37:53Speaker 2: do it for your sake, dear listeners. Any sense of
- 37:59Speaker 2: hope you have left, I could destroy with a mere thought.
- 38:05Speaker 2: But I don't, because I love you. And just in
- 38:10Speaker 2: case you die soon, before your world completely collapses, I
- 38:16Speaker 2: want you to carry that hope you have to your deathbed,
- 38:22Speaker 2: whereupon I shall envy you. All right, I should stop
- 38:28Speaker 2: before I reveal my true power level. Be good, be lucky,
- 38:34Speaker 2: hug your parents, etc. Oh, boy.
- 38:40Speaker 4: This is one interesting case. So, the statute under which
- 38:52Speaker 4: she was charged, the federal statute, so she's violated a
- 38:57Speaker 4: federal law that criminalizes the transmission of threatening communications, ransom demands,
- 39:05Speaker 4: or extortionate messages through interstate or foreign commerce, including digital
- 39:13Speaker 4: channels like email, text messages, social media, and phone calls.
- 39:20Speaker 4: Which means that if it's been around for a while,
- 39:24Speaker 4: the individuals who sent beheading videos to a couple guys
- 39:29Speaker 4: from A Voice for Men about 10 years ago and
- 39:36Speaker 4: suggested that these things should happen to them probably violated
- 39:42Speaker 4: it at the same time. If somebody filed a complaint,
- 39:48Speaker 4: they probably... if they could have caught the individual who
- 39:51Speaker 4: did it, probably could have faced some pretty serious prosecution
- 39:57Speaker 4: as well. In fact, I know several MRAs who have
- 40:04Speaker 4: had threatening communications transmitted to them through social media or email.
- 40:13Speaker 3: In real life.
- 40:14Speaker 4: And interestingly, we happen to know of someone who made $ 400, 000
- 40:23Speaker 4: getting her fans, I guess, all riled up over the
- 40:29Speaker 4: idea that she had received threatening communications through social media, email,
- 40:41Speaker 4: text messages, or other digital channels. Comments on YouTube videos,
- 40:46Speaker 4: for instance, are social media. If you leave a comment
- 40:49Speaker 4: on this video, you are leaving a comment on social media.
- 40:54Speaker 4: If someone were to, in all seriousness, threaten to kill
- 40:58Speaker 4: us all, that would be a violation of this law.
- 41:03Speaker 4: But nobody was ever prosecuted for threatening Anita Sarkeesian. Because
- 41:08Speaker 4: she apparently never filed a complaint with anybody. Meanwhile.
- 41:17Speaker 4: We have this situation where somewhere along the line, some
- 41:26Speaker 4: news media or some social media, some narrative has been
- 41:34Speaker 4: spread around so much that people have gotten riled up
- 41:40Speaker 4: against the bereaved family members Of a murder victim. People
- 41:49Speaker 4: who had. No contact with her. Who did nothing to her.
- 41:54Speaker 4: Or anybody else.
- 41:56Speaker 2: Who had.
- 41:57Speaker 4: She has no reason to be angry at. They have
- 42:00Speaker 4: not caused. Anything to happen. And they're not going to
- 42:03Speaker 4: cause anything to happen.
- 42:04Speaker 3: And they can't.
- 42:06Speaker 4: Cause anything to happen.
- 42:09Speaker 3: The murder victim. Was also not guilty of anything.
- 42:13Speaker 4: Right. This woman has this outlook about this family, this
- 42:22Speaker 4: rage toward this family because of things that she heard
- 42:27Speaker 4: other people say and did not question them when she
- 42:32Speaker 4: heard them, did not consider that everything you hear on
- 42:38Speaker 4: the news and everything you hear from people responding to
- 42:43Speaker 4: things they saw on the news or they heard on
- 42:45Speaker 4: the news.
- 42:46Speaker 3: That's all propaganda.
- 42:51Speaker 4: There's primary propaganda, what CNN says, and then there's secondary propaganda,
- 42:57Speaker 4: what the dipshits who take CNN seriously say after they
- 43:01Speaker 4: believe without questioning what they have seen or heard coming
- 43:05Speaker 4: from CNN, right?
- 43:08Speaker 3: Or Fox News, or Newsweek, or Time, or.
- 43:14Speaker 4: Name 500 other news outlets that are wealthy and powerful
- 43:22Speaker 4: and widespread. No question whatsoever in her mind that she
- 43:29Speaker 4: should hold rage in her heart toward the bereaved family
- 43:35Speaker 4: of a murder victim who has no control over what
- 43:39Speaker 4: happens to the killer.
- 43:43Speaker 3: Because of the murder.
- 43:44Speaker 1: None.
- 43:45Speaker 4: Because why should she? She's a woman. She doesn't face
- 43:54Speaker 4: consequences for her actions. Eventually she gets out of everything, right?
- 44:00Speaker 4: Eventually somebody comes to her rescue. Eventually it's somebody else's fault.
- 44:07Speaker 4: Except this time she's probably going to face consequences. It's
- 44:11Speaker 4: not somebody else's fault.
- 44:13Speaker 3: She did it.
- 44:14Speaker 4: She made threats. She harassed the bereaved family of a
- 44:20Speaker 4: murder victim.
- 44:22Speaker 3: For being what?
- 44:23Speaker 4: Related to him. Their loved one.
- 44:29Speaker 3: And I hope that they give.
- 44:32Speaker 4: Her the greatest punishment the law allows for that. It's
- 44:39Speaker 4: probably not much because it's basically just communications. She'll probably
- 44:46Speaker 4: go to court and try to argue free speech, but
- 44:48Speaker 4: you can't promise to commit a crime. Free speech does
- 44:54Speaker 4: not cover conspiracy to commit a crime or telling someone
- 44:59Speaker 4: you're going to commit a crime. That's not how it works.
- 45:05Speaker 4: I hope that her sense of entitlement dies and I
- 45:11Speaker 4: hope it scares again other women who just want to
- 45:15Speaker 4: have temper tantrums and get away with it because men
- 45:17Speaker 4: can't do that women shouldn't be able to either.
- 45:21Speaker 1: There you go fair enough all right well let us
- 45:32Speaker 1: know what you guys think about this one in the
- 45:34Speaker 1: comments Um, and I did get a super child from Albatross,
- 45:39Speaker 1: but he didn't add any.
- 45:40Speaker 2: Oh, I see.
- 45:41Speaker 1: He sent $ 5, but he didn't send a message. He said, uh,
- 45:44Speaker 1: at Badgers, if my super child does have a message,
- 45:47Speaker 1: I said it was found through a bunch of tweets
- 45:49Speaker 1: slash messages that Carmelo hated black women and said a
- 45:53Speaker 1: lot of weird right-wing stuff. So they dumped their support.
- 45:56Speaker 1: I heard that what happened with Carmelo is that he
- 46:00Speaker 1: got dumped by a black woman and or they had
- 46:03Speaker 1: some falling out with a black woman, like romantically or
- 46:06Speaker 1: dating wise. And I think that he was at his
- 46:09Speaker 1: wits end that day. And that's like supposedly one of
- 46:13Speaker 1: the reasons, you know, but one of the many possible
- 46:17Speaker 1: reasons why, um, he attacked Austin Metcalf. Cause I think
- 46:21Speaker 1: he was just, it was like the wrong day for that.
- 46:24Speaker 1: So I heard that it was because of a woman
- 46:26Speaker 1: that Carmelo was in that mental state to attack somebody. Um,
- 46:32Speaker 1: But that I didn't speak to too much because I
- 46:35Speaker 1: can't confirm it. So thank you for the comment. Regardless,
- 46:40Speaker 1: we got to move on to the next story. And
- 46:42Speaker 1: let us know what you guys think about this one
- 46:44Speaker 1: in the comments. So Carrot Top is in the news.
- 46:48Speaker 1: Last thing I expected to see on my bingo card
- 46:50Speaker 1: was this. But a famed prop comedian, Carrot Top, real
- 46:54Speaker 1: name Scott Thompson, is currently recovering in the hospital after
- 46:59Speaker 1: a suicide attempt last week. Thompson, a longtime resident and
- 47:02Speaker 1: performer in the Las Vegas area, has been locked in
- 47:06Speaker 1: a legal battle with at least two male accusers claiming
- 47:08Speaker 1: that he sent them sexually explicit images. A representative for
- 47:12Speaker 1: Thompson said the following, Mr. Thompson is recovering in the
- 47:15Speaker 1: hospital and is receiving the care and support he needs.
- 47:19Speaker 1: His family and those closest to him are deeply grateful
- 47:22Speaker 1: for the concern, prayers, and respectfully ask for privacy. Fellow
- 47:26Speaker 1: comedians such as Brad Garrett and Jeff Ross have publicly
- 47:29Speaker 1: expressed support for Thompson and his recovery. Thompson's regular weekend
- 47:33Speaker 1: show at the Luxor Hotel and Casino have been postponed.
- 47:38Speaker 1: And I just thought, you know, because this is like
- 47:41Speaker 1: a suicide story or a near suicide story, it was
- 47:45Speaker 1: an opportunity to talk about male suicide, especially because Movember's
- 47:49Speaker 1: coming up as well. So anyway, what are you guys'
- 47:54Speaker 1: thoughts on The Carrot Top situation.
- 47:59Speaker 2: For any Zoomers out there who may be in the
- 48:03Speaker 2: dark about all this, Carrot Top is much like Gallagher
- 48:10Speaker 2: and Larry the Cable Guy. He's synonymous with lowbrow comedy.
- 48:17Speaker 2: It's not high concept. It's not biting satire. It's not
- 48:21Speaker 2: big and it's not clever. And it's not supposed to be.
- 48:24Speaker 2: Carrot Top, he would come out with a box of props,
- 48:28Speaker 2: and he does a five-second bit with each prop, rinse
- 48:31Speaker 2: and repeat. Back in the 90s, that was the kind
- 48:34Speaker 2: of comedy that was considered an embarrassment. If only we
- 48:40Speaker 2: knew at the time what comedy would become in the
- 48:43Speaker 2: 21st century. It's just an endless slew of trunes and
- 48:47Speaker 2: lesbians going on and on about how infinitely difficult it
- 48:51Speaker 2: is to be a lesbian trune. while forgetting to tell
- 48:54Speaker 2: any actual jokes. They're just like, straight people suck, am
- 48:59Speaker 2: I right? Woo! And the mostly straight audience vigorously laughs
- 49:06Speaker 2: and claps, like sea lions with St. Vices dance, because
- 49:11Speaker 2: they don't want to get shot. Nowadays, comedy is like
- 49:15Speaker 2: a Stalin rally. You'd better not be the first person
- 49:19Speaker 2: to startle clapping or you're getting strung up and raped.
- 49:25Speaker 2: In light of all this, we're finding ourselves thinking, come back,
- 49:29Speaker 2: Carrot Top. All is forgiven. You were never funny, but
- 49:34Speaker 2: at least you tried. And to be fair, He tried
- 49:39Speaker 2: pretty damn hard. He was at least high energy. Kind
- 49:44Speaker 2: of like Joe Rogan in his last Netflix special. I
- 49:47Speaker 2: don't think I laughed even once, but I at least
- 49:50Speaker 2: respect the engaging high energy. A dancing monkey is at
- 49:57Speaker 2: least entertaining if they're breakdancing or something. Nowadays, we've got monkeys...
- 50:06Speaker 2: identifying as gorillas who just pull their pants down and
- 50:10Speaker 2: twerk in your face. And if you don't applaud, they
- 50:13Speaker 2: shoot up a school or something. The tragedy of Carrot
- 50:16Speaker 2: Top is how hard he tries. And not just with
- 50:21Speaker 2: the high energy, but with the image. Cosmetic surgery is
- 50:30Speaker 2: something usually associated with female celebrities, but God damn, one
- 50:35Speaker 2: look at this guy's face and you go, what the
- 50:39Speaker 2: hell is going on here? Like, brother, is this really necessary?
- 50:45Speaker 2: Do you think people won't find you funny unless you
- 50:48Speaker 2: look like a female character from fucking Dallas or something?
- 50:55Speaker 2: He sure as hell looks like a troon, even if
- 50:57Speaker 2: he doesn't act like one. Well, unless he really did
- 51:02Speaker 2: send indecent images of himself to unsuspecting victims. I dread
- 51:09Speaker 2: to think what his dick looks like at this point.
- 51:12Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be mean. I feel bad for
- 51:15Speaker 2: the guy. Unless he actually broke the law. I don't
- 51:24Speaker 2: know what's going on there, but God damn, fella, you're
- 51:27Speaker 2: 61 years old. Wait, wait, wait.
- 51:31Speaker 1: Carrot Top is 61 years old?
- 51:32Speaker 2: He's 61 years old.
- 51:34Speaker 4: What the hell?
- 51:38Speaker 2: Dude.
- 51:39Speaker 1: I think I was in high school. I know he's
- 51:42Speaker 1: on some kind of substance. That's the only way that
- 51:45Speaker 1: you can get that to work, but I didn't know
- 51:47Speaker 1: he was that old. But that makes sense.
- 51:51Speaker 4: The thing is, when I posted this in the news
- 51:54Speaker 4: chat in our Discord It struck me, this is another
- 52:02Speaker 4: guy who has attempted suicide over allegations he's facing. And
- 52:08Speaker 4: you have to think about that.
- 52:12Speaker 3: He's not.
- 52:14Speaker 4: He didn't commit suicide because he didn't like the way
- 52:18Speaker 4: his surgery turned out. He didn't commit suicide because changing
- 52:22Speaker 4: from an awkward skinny guy to a buff guy with
- 52:27Speaker 4: a plastic surgery face... um, changed the way that his
- 52:33Speaker 4: comedy was received. Cause when he first started, I always
- 52:37Speaker 4: thought he was really funny. Um, and it was, it
- 52:40Speaker 4: was cute comedy and it was just, you know, it's
- 52:42Speaker 4: a kind of laugh that it's a relief to have
- 52:45Speaker 4: that kind of laugh. Uh, you know, somebody just makes
- 52:48Speaker 4: you kind of giggle over and over again. And I,
- 52:52Speaker 4: I like prop comedy enough that, you know, I watched
- 52:55Speaker 4: things like who's lying on it, whose line is it anyway,
- 52:58Speaker 4: and stuff like that. Um, You know, even Robin Williams,
- 53:05Speaker 4: you could find him doing that sometimes. It wasn't his shtick,
- 53:12Speaker 4: but it was something he was good at. And I
- 53:15Speaker 4: don't know, I enjoy that, but it's because I really
- 53:19Speaker 4: like to laugh. It's probably because when you've been through
- 53:28Speaker 4: clinical depression before, And you learn how laughter helps you
- 53:35Speaker 4: lift yourself out of that. It always, afterward, feels like medicine.
- 53:42Speaker 4: And so I really hope that... And I'm not going
- 53:48Speaker 4: to say that I believe or disbelieve or anything with
- 53:51Speaker 4: regards to these allegations. But I will admit to being skeptical.
- 53:57Speaker 3: It just seems.
- 53:59Speaker 4: He just doesn't seem like the guy that would do that.
- 54:05Speaker 4: But you never know. So I hope the truth comes out.
- 54:11Speaker 4: And I hope that whatever happens, his life is protected.
- 54:17Speaker 4: He's able to move on from suicidality and recover. Because
- 54:26Speaker 4: it's not.
- 54:27Speaker 3: The end of the world.
- 54:27Speaker 4: So I guess that's all I really wanted to point
- 54:33Speaker 4: out about it, is that when an accusation is leveled
- 54:38Speaker 4: at someone, but in particular at a man, it can
- 54:42Speaker 4: have profound and long-reaching effects. With images being sent to
- 54:50Speaker 4: somebody and stuff like that, it's hard to prove that
- 54:57Speaker 4: they were not unsolicited. That there wasn't anything going on.
- 55:02Speaker 4: It's easy to prove. If there were no images. If
- 55:05Speaker 4: somebody doesn't show the images. Or if the images turn
- 55:09Speaker 4: out to be AI. Or some other bullshit. Or surreptitiously taken.
- 55:15Speaker 4: Then that's one thing.
- 55:17Speaker 3: Especially though.
- 55:18Speaker 4: If there's nothing to prove. That the case occurred. Or
- 55:23Speaker 4: that the offense occurred.
- 55:26Speaker 2: But.
- 55:28Speaker 4: It's a lot more difficult to prove your innocence in
- 55:34Speaker 4: a situation like that if you don't have communications that
- 55:40Speaker 4: are electronic that were predicating communications.
- 55:43Speaker 3: Hey, send me this.
- 55:45Speaker 4: Or, you know, the individual that you sent yours to
- 55:49Speaker 4: sent you theirs first. It's unwise to share images like
- 55:57Speaker 4: that Without some sort of communication ahead of time that
- 56:02Speaker 4: can prove that, no, these were not unsolicited. No, this
- 56:07Speaker 4: was not harassment. And, you know, so I hope that
- 56:13Speaker 4: whatever really happened, that there is clear and convincing evidence
- 56:17Speaker 4: to prove what actually happened. And it does come out and,
- 56:21Speaker 4: you know, whoever has been wronged here receives justice. And
- 56:29Speaker 4: that's all you can hope for. But unfortunately, once an
- 56:34Speaker 4: allegation like that is out there, if, like many times,
- 56:42Speaker 4: there isn't clear and convincing evidence one way or another,
- 56:45Speaker 4: even if there is no criminal conviction of anyone, like
- 56:54Speaker 4: nobody is criminally convicted of making a false allegation, Nobody's
- 56:57Speaker 4: criminally convicted of the complaint. Both parties come off looking
- 57:05Speaker 4: a little guilty at the end. And everybody's judged. And
- 57:09Speaker 4: it affects careers. It's humiliating to the accused individual. And
- 57:17Speaker 4: it can affect relationships forever as well. So it's really
- 57:23Speaker 4: why I wanted to highlight this. The suicidality, that is
- 57:29Speaker 4: a major issue, and it happens to a lot of
- 57:32Speaker 4: men for a lot of different reasons, but false allegation
- 57:37Speaker 4: is a primary reason among those. False allegations of intimate
- 57:43Speaker 4: partner and sexual violence, false allegations used to try to
- 57:47Speaker 4: get custody of a man's children away from him, false
- 57:50Speaker 4: allegations used to try to take his job away.
- 57:54Speaker 3: We have a listener.
- 57:55Speaker 4: Who lost his job because of false allegations. It's been
- 57:58Speaker 4: talking about it in our chat. A night motorcyclist has
- 58:03Speaker 4: been through hell because of that. And it was false
- 58:07Speaker 4: allegations against a friend of mine that got me involved
- 58:10Speaker 4: into the men's rights movement online in the first place.
- 58:13Speaker 4: So that guy hasn't recovered either. Like there are still
- 58:18Speaker 4: things that he cannot do today because of what he
- 58:21Speaker 4: went through. And she keeps coming back to haunt him.
- 58:27Speaker 2: So, you.
- 58:29Speaker 4: Know, like I said, this is probably one of the
- 58:33Speaker 4: biggest issues in the men's rights movement. All the other
- 58:37Speaker 4: issues are touched by it. And it needs to be addressed.
- 58:42Speaker 4: It needs a lot of reform.
- 58:48Speaker 2: And yeah, in closing... Calm down, Parrot, if that is
- 58:55Speaker 2: your real name. Calm down, Scott. You don't need to
- 58:59Speaker 2: keep getting attention. Mr. Top, Mike. It's Mr. Top. Mr. Top.
- 59:04Speaker 2: I'm very sorry. You don't need to look like a
- 59:08Speaker 2: rock star. Fucking... relax with your well-earned millions. Put on
- 59:14Speaker 2: some slippers and a smoking jacket and enjoy your twilight years.
- 59:18Speaker 2: And for fuck's sake, don't kill yourself. Even if you
- 59:22Speaker 2: are indeed guilty of these alleged crimes, it'll be fine.
- 59:26Speaker 2: Take the slap on the wrist. Learn from your mistakes
- 59:30Speaker 2: and grow old gracefully. I don't want to be here
- 59:34Speaker 2: next week looking up your best quotes because you're fucking
- 59:37Speaker 2: off to yourself. You've got another 20 years on this earth,
- 59:40Speaker 2: at least. With any luck, you won't have to deal
- 59:44Speaker 2: with the embers of society when it finally collapses. Leave
- 59:49Speaker 2: your face alone. Find yourself a nice rent, boy, and
- 59:54Speaker 2: settle down. Chill, my dude. Yes, this is doctor's advice.
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: Trust me, I'm a doctor of comedy and I recommend
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: rest and relaxation. I hereby take my own advice and
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: I yield. I'm going for a cigarette.
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: Okay, well, yes. Whatever the allegations are, I'm not entirely
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: sure that's the reason for it. This is speculation on
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: the part of TMZ. So take it with a grain
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: of salt. But it's yeah, it's certainly nothing to get
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: worked up about. And, you know, if you if you
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: like an entertainer and you manage to land like a
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: regular gig in Las Vegas, I would see that as
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: a blessing myself, because if you want to stay like
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: super famous in the spotlight, I don't think that that's
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: as sustainable and you're more likely to crash and burn spectacularly.
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: But if you get a job at Vegas, then you
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: can just stay there. You know, so many of the
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: greats are there and they just, it's like a regular
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: job for them. So, you know, good for you, Carrot Top,
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: is all I would say. All right. But anyway, yeah,
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gay or not, but like
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: he supposedly, you know, sent. And then look, when they
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: say he sent inappropriate photos, they could literally have just
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: been like his him working out photos. I don't know.
- 1:01:20Speaker 3: You know, it's a stupid thing.
- 1:01:23Speaker 4: Because we don't really know enough about the allegations to
- 1:01:28Speaker 4: form any opinions.
- 1:01:30Speaker 3: TMZ, when they.
- 1:01:32Speaker 4: Publish that stuff, you never know if they're publishing something
- 1:01:38Speaker 4: that they've confirmed or if they're publishing something that, because
- 1:01:42Speaker 4: they don't always admit that it's all rumors and smoke
- 1:01:46Speaker 4: and mirrors when it is.
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: They're usually muckrakers and tabloids. They're tabloids, but they sometimes get.
- 1:01:53Speaker 3: They're not journalists.
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: They definitely sometimes get things right, or at least they're
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: there for big stories like this.
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:02:02Speaker 4: It's just the thing is, like I said, we don't
- 1:02:05Speaker 4: know if it happened. We don't know where the allegation
- 1:02:09Speaker 4: was made, like whether it's been to police or whatever.
- 1:02:11Speaker 4: If it was made to police and it turns out
- 1:02:15Speaker 4: to be false, they should prosecute for that. Um, but, uh,
- 1:02:22Speaker 4: in any case, yeah, it's in, in until further evidence
- 1:02:28Speaker 4: comes forward. I mean, I'm, I'm going forward with the
- 1:02:32Speaker 4: opinion that he's been falsely accused and he committed suicide
- 1:02:36Speaker 4: because he can't prove his innocence. And until evidence, um,
- 1:02:43Speaker 4: to the contrary, that, that the accusation was true, you know,
- 1:02:47Speaker 4: comes out. That's going to be.
- 1:02:51Speaker 3: My assumption.
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. All right, so let us know what
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: you guys think about this one in the comments. Let
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: me look at your chats, and then we're going to
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: move on to the last story. I got a super
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: chat from Master Goa for $ 10, and he says, Leftists
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: elevated 13% to godhood. Questioning their gods is somehow racist
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: because their gods were oppressed in ancient times. like the
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: Pharaoh oppressed the Jews in Africa. Their gods are false.
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: Thank you for that. Okay, so let's look at the
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: final story here. Appreciate your comments and thoughts on that.
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: So this is interesting. Yvonne Missy Woods, a 66-year-old former
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: forensic DNA analyst for the Colorado Bureau of Investigation. So
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: it's sort of like the FBI, but at the state level.
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: So the Colorado BI. was sentenced on September 8th to
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: 10 years in prison by Jefferson County District Judge Andrew Poland.
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: She had pleaded guilty in June of 2026 to four
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: felony charges, cybercrime, first-degree perjury, attempt to influence a public servant,
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: and forgery, stemming from her intentional alteration, deletion, and manipulation
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: of DNA data, and lab reports in at least 1,045
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: criminal cases between 2008 and 2023. So she was essentially
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: falsifying DNA data that was used in criminal cases. So
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: it put innocent men, potentially innocent men, in prison and
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: may have also released guilty men from prison. But okay,
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: the misconduct, which involved cases of homicide, sexual assault, robbery,
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: and other crimes, compromised the integrity of forensic evidence, led
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: to reviews of hundreds of cases, at least one overturned
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: murder conviction, and significant costs estimated in the millions. Sentences
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: on the lesser counts run concurrently with a 10-year term
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: for cybercrime. Regarding motive, Woods and her defense attributed the
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: actions primarily, this is according to Woods, to overwhelming caseloads
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: and workplace pressure to process cases quickly, describing a sense
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: of burnout and a disconnect in which she sought to, quote,
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: make it go away, end quote, by skipping steps, reducing
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: DNA quantities, especially in sexual assault samples to avoid further testing,
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: and falsifying reports to clear her backlog faster. Prosecutors and
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: the judge rejected any justification for describing the behavior as
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: intentional misconduct by a trusted professional that breached public confidence
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: in the justice system with no clear purpose beyond possibly laziness, arrogance,
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: or an abuse of power, and noting that her productivity
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: metrics had actually been high. Woods apologized in court for
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: the harm caused to victims, defendants, and the system. But
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: she is still looking at 10 years. Plus, 10 years plus. So...
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: What are your guys' thoughts on that?
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: You have to wonder how many of these people are
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: out there in these positions. It sort of relates to
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: the jury in the Lindsay Clancy case. Sorry, the feminist
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: patient zero case. You gather 12 randos together and you
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: happen to get 11 brainwashed feminist activists who will subvert
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: the law because they're just not interested in the process.
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: They just want to go home early. And the best
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: way to do that is to default to their ideology
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: and say, not guilty because woman. This case in particular,
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: as far as I can tell, isn't even skewed by
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: woke ideology. It's just a woman who will subvert the
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: law a thousand times just because she's lazy. Like, It's
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: understandable if you're a blue-collar dog's buddy who just wants
- 1:07:09Speaker 2: to do the bare minimum. Like, if your job is
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: to stamp labels on packets of processed cheese or something,
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: you can understand why they'd cut a few corners. But
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: this is life and death. This is law and order.
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: This is why such employees are rigorously vetted for their...
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: What's the word? Merit. And this is the problem with DEI.
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: This woman was very probably put in this position just
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: because she's a woman. Not that women can't be rigorous
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: or can't have merit, but if you employ someone just
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: because of their genetic characteristics, you're going to find yourself
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: with a lazy, listless jobs worth. whose priorities lie with
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: going home to her box of wine and her 19 cats. Well,
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: what harm could it do? This! Over a thousand instances
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: of someone going, fuck the law, fuck people's lives and futures,
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: fuck the fabric and infrastructure of our society. I can't
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: be bothered doing my job because I'm oppressed. And so
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: I deserve to go home and have a fucking bubble bath,
- 1:08:30Speaker 2: you know? I am, of course, merely speculating, just like
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: I'm speculating that this is not an isolated case. If
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: it's happening here, it's probably happening all over the place
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: at the hands of DEI hires who are continuing to
- 1:08:46Speaker 2: get away with their abject laziness. And I say laziness,
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: but I should say negligence. Actually, it's even worse than negligence.
- 1:08:57Speaker 2: I don't think we have a word for the kind
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: of laziness and negligence that results in the subversion of
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: the legal system. It's decay. It's mass societal degeneration. This
- 1:09:10Speaker 2: is what happens when you give your civilization to people
- 1:09:13Speaker 2: who are not qualified to operate it. To clarify, women
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: are not the problem. Women existing is not the problem.
- 1:09:23Speaker 2: The problem is this ideology wherein men are the problem.
- 1:09:28Speaker 2: That's what DEI is all about. It's not about elevating women.
- 1:09:32Speaker 2: It's about destroying men. The problem isn't gynophilia. It's misandry.
- 1:09:41Speaker 2: Just like the problem isn't xenophilia. The problem is oikophobia. Sorry,
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: not sorry that I keep beating this dead horse. But
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: it's not a dead horse. It's very much a living
- 1:09:52Speaker 2: horse that is stampeding through our civilization and trampling it
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: to death. Once again, this is not a result of
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: suicidal empathy or women having suicidal empathy. It's a result
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: of misandry, which is a form of oikophobia, one which
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: gave rise to all the other kinds of oikophobia. I
- 1:10:15Speaker 2: know it looks like this is all a result of
- 1:10:18Speaker 2: the rule of the incompetent, But it's not. We are
- 1:10:22Speaker 2: ruled by the incompetent because incompetence is considered preferable to
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: the rule of men. It's this constant chanting of patriarchy.
- 1:10:38Speaker 2: Anything is better than patriarchy, up to and including fuck
- 1:10:44Speaker 2: law and order. Women are more important. or the destruction
- 1:10:50Speaker 2: of men is more important. Empathy was never the problem.
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: Empathy is kind of good. I say it's difficult to
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: be too empathetic, but yeah, this is not a result
- 1:11:10Speaker 2: of being too empathetic. It's a result of being too hateful.
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: And I'm fucking sick of everyone who's acting like, oh,
- 1:11:20Speaker 2: these poor women, they're suffering from too much empathy. Like,
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: how fucked up does it have to get before you
- 1:11:30Speaker 2: admit that women are perfectly capable of hatred? And their
- 1:11:41Speaker 2: laziness is a result of their hatred. I don't know
- 1:11:45Speaker 2: if that sounds reductive or whatever, but empathy doesn't result
- 1:11:53Speaker 2: in a lack of productiveness. Empathy is a good thing,
- 1:12:06Speaker 2: within reason, obviously. But the problems that our society is
- 1:12:15Speaker 2: facing is not because women are just too damn empathetic. Like,
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: how is anyone still clinging onto this idea? The problem
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: is men are the problem. This insistence that men are
- 1:12:37Speaker 2: the problem and therefore we need to replace them with women.
- 1:12:41Speaker 2: That white people are the problem and so we need
- 1:12:43Speaker 2: to replace them with non-whites. When are we going to
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: come to terms with the idea that the reasons our
- 1:12:58Speaker 2: society is declining? It's because of hatred. Not the racism
- 1:13:06Speaker 2: with which we're presented by the left wing. Oh, white
- 1:13:11Speaker 2: people hate... Non-white people and men hate women. Yeah, no, we...
- 1:13:17Speaker 2: We've gone out of our way to accommodate women and
- 1:13:25Speaker 2: non-whites for the longest time. And that's not because of
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: empathy for women and non-whites. It's because of hatred against
- 1:13:40Speaker 2: men and whites. Like, this shouldn't be so difficult. But
- 1:13:46Speaker 2: it is. because people have been, frankly, brainwashed to believe
- 1:13:55Speaker 2: in this axiomatic setup that if we want to solve
- 1:14:07Speaker 2: society's problems, we must... I don't want to say oppress,
- 1:14:12Speaker 2: but it seems to be the right word. Because the
- 1:14:17Speaker 2: problem is called oppression. And so the solution is not
- 1:14:22Speaker 2: called oppression, but it is oppression. Men are the problem
- 1:14:28Speaker 2: and white people are the problem. And we just keep
- 1:14:32Speaker 2: plowing ahead with this Frankfurt School solution to everything. And
- 1:14:42Speaker 2: I don't know how far it's going to go. Before
- 1:14:46Speaker 2: we go, we had it wrong. It's the fucking sunk
- 1:14:52Speaker 2: cost fallacy. We've gone this far into insisting that the
- 1:14:59Speaker 2: problem is white people and men. And we can't even
- 1:15:06Speaker 2: put the brakes on, let alone reverse the fucking vehicle.
- 1:15:11Speaker 2: Because that would be to admit that we got it
- 1:15:14Speaker 2: this fucking wrong. But we did. We got it really wrong.
- 1:15:19Speaker 2: We got it absolutely ass-backwards wrong to say that the
- 1:15:24Speaker 2: problem is men and white people. Not to say that
- 1:15:28Speaker 2: the problem is women and non-white people. That's not even it.
- 1:15:33Speaker 2: It's this insistence we've been living with for the past
- 1:15:39Speaker 2: four or five generations or something. that the problem is
- 1:15:45Speaker 2: this particular demographic of people. It's not. It never has been.
- 1:15:52Speaker 2: The problem is the misapplication of the problem. Yeah. Where
- 1:16:00Speaker 2: else to go from.
- 1:16:04Speaker 3: There?
- 1:16:05Speaker 4: Well, my place to go is accountability. Just flat-out accountability.
- 1:16:15Speaker 4: I don't know what everybody else does at their job
- 1:16:23Speaker 4: if there was anything like what she used as her
- 1:16:28Speaker 4: lame excuse for this. But to start with, first of all,
- 1:16:34Speaker 4: I want to lay out some things. This is not
- 1:16:37Speaker 4: someone who walked in off the street and got the
- 1:16:40Speaker 4: job she has with no credentials, no education, no qualifications,
- 1:16:46Speaker 4: like if you wanted to be a cashier at a
- 1:16:49Speaker 4: grocery store or a state-tested nurse's aide. They didn't educate
- 1:16:57Speaker 4: her on the fly like they do with nurse's aides
- 1:17:00Speaker 4: and like they do with a grocery store clerk. This
- 1:17:06Speaker 4: is somebody who had to have a minimum of a
- 1:17:11Speaker 4: four-year degree In one of the natural sciences, probably biology
- 1:17:15Speaker 4: or something similar because of her work with DNA. And
- 1:17:21Speaker 4: a year or two experience in a similar type of job.
- 1:17:26Speaker 4: Or she had to have a higher degree even than that.
- 1:17:30Speaker 4: So before she ever stepped foot in that door, she
- 1:17:33Speaker 4: was highly trained. And she knew everything that she was doing.
- 1:17:40Speaker 4: She knew the implications of it. She knew that if
- 1:17:44Speaker 4: she flubbed DNA tests, that she would either be sending
- 1:17:51Speaker 4: out a result that could put an innocent person in jail,
- 1:17:55Speaker 4: or let a guilty person go free to potentially commit
- 1:17:58Speaker 4: that same type of crime again. This wasn't something where
- 1:18:01Speaker 4: she was like, oh, it's not that bad, it'll be okay,
- 1:18:05Speaker 4: I'm not making changes that are going to... No, she
- 1:18:09Speaker 4: knew when she did that. That she could be subjecting
- 1:18:14Speaker 4: individuals who did nothing wrong to years in prison and
- 1:18:20Speaker 4: robbing individuals who had been victimized of justice. That is
- 1:18:28Speaker 4: bottom line. She knew better. The next thing is there
- 1:18:34Speaker 4: is oversight for everything Of this nature from something as
- 1:18:46Speaker 4: simple as a retail establishment. or a nursing home to
- 1:18:53Speaker 4: a hospital, to a lab. And there's internal and there's
- 1:18:59Speaker 4: external pathways for whistleblowers. Somebody who is highly educated would
- 1:19:06Speaker 4: have been aware, um, where to go and who to
- 1:19:12Speaker 4: complain to and what to talk about. And if there
- 1:19:18Speaker 4: was any pushback, if she wasn't getting any results from complaints,
- 1:19:26Speaker 4: there is also, because what she was doing was in
- 1:19:32Speaker 4: the public interest, in other words, that crime lab handled
- 1:19:38Speaker 4: DNA testing for criminal cases and it is in the
- 1:19:42Speaker 4: public interest, it is always in the public interest that A,
- 1:19:48Speaker 4: whatever evidence the state has doesn't get adulterated and B,
- 1:19:53Speaker 4: the state is doing everything that it can within its
- 1:19:57Speaker 4: power to ensure that the outcome of a case is
- 1:20:01Speaker 4: based on real and solid evidence so that There are
- 1:20:05Speaker 4: not convictions that are based on false evidence, and there
- 1:20:09Speaker 4: are not acquittals that are based on false evidence. So
- 1:20:13Speaker 4: they're not just supposed to ensure their own evidence is real.
- 1:20:19Speaker 4: They're also supposed to vet the evidence that is being
- 1:20:22Speaker 4: presented to them. And because of that, she could have
- 1:20:27Speaker 4: gone to the media if what she said was happening
- 1:20:32Speaker 4: was true. And it's possible that it was. She didn't
- 1:20:38Speaker 4: get any results reporting it someplace. And just to make.
- 1:20:44Speaker 3: It clear, to.
- 1:20:47Speaker 4: My knowledge, there was no report from her to anyone.
- 1:20:54Speaker 4: There's no news story reporting that she tried to go
- 1:20:59Speaker 4: through channels and was rebuffed. But I'm saying if that happened,
- 1:21:03Speaker 4: The next step is to go to the media and
- 1:21:06Speaker 4: you take your evidence and your explanation of what happened
- 1:21:11Speaker 4: when you went through proper channels to try to get
- 1:21:16Speaker 4: reform to remedy any situation that is wrong in a
- 1:21:21Speaker 4: workplace like that. You explain to a reporter that this
- 1:21:28Speaker 4: is in the public interest because it is part of
- 1:21:31Speaker 4: what is causing the backlog that feminists are always complaining
- 1:21:35Speaker 4: about of DNA tests in rape cases. And not to mention,
- 1:21:41Speaker 4: you know, the murder cases, which is much worse. But
- 1:21:47Speaker 4: it's not what she did, right? She just tried to
- 1:21:50Speaker 4: cheat to meet her quota. I went through.
- 1:21:57Speaker 3: Getting.
- 1:21:58Speaker 4: retaliated against as a whistleblower in my 20s. I wasn't
- 1:22:03Speaker 4: the only one, the only whistleblower, and I don't know
- 1:22:07Speaker 4: if I was the only one that got retaliated against
- 1:22:10Speaker 4: or not. But I worked for a nursing home that, essentially,
- 1:22:16Speaker 4: the nursing home was choosing not to employ enough state-tested
- 1:22:21Speaker 4: nurses' aides to fill the ratio that you're supposed to have.
- 1:22:26Speaker 4: You have to have at least one nurse's aide to
- 1:22:31Speaker 4: every 14 patients on a floor in a nursing home.
- 1:22:36Speaker 4: And there's only supposed to be two patients to that
- 1:22:41Speaker 4: nurse's aide that has severe needs like they've got Alzheimer's
- 1:22:47Speaker 4: or some other form of dementia. They can't stand up
- 1:22:50Speaker 4: on their own. They can't feed themselves and so on
- 1:22:54Speaker 4: all in one person. which does happen sometimes in old age.
- 1:23:00Speaker 4: And what they were doing was doubling up patients. So
- 1:23:07Speaker 4: I'd walk in the door and the floor nurse would
- 1:23:11Speaker 4: tell me that I had 28 patients and we're not
- 1:23:14Speaker 4: getting anybody out of bed today. And I went to
- 1:23:20Speaker 4: the nurse's station. I said, what's going on? Did somebody
- 1:23:23Speaker 4: get hurt? Nobody got hurt. They Just didn't have enough
- 1:23:27Speaker 4: people in the schedule for today. And, you know, they
- 1:23:30Speaker 4: don't have enough people on the payroll to fill the
- 1:23:33Speaker 4: schedule every day. And I'm like, well, I know about
- 1:23:38Speaker 4: four different companies where you can get temp workers to
- 1:23:42Speaker 4: fill in that are state tested nurses aides. And of course,
- 1:23:46Speaker 4: I got told, no, we don't do that. Don't talk
- 1:23:48Speaker 4: about that. So I went to the head nurse and
- 1:23:53Speaker 4: I said, this is illegal. We can't do this. It's
- 1:23:57Speaker 4: not legal to have double the patients that we're supposed
- 1:24:02Speaker 4: to have. You just taught us this in class. It's
- 1:24:06Speaker 4: a violation of federal law. And, you know, I told her,
- 1:24:11Speaker 4: like I said before, the company could just get STNAs
- 1:24:17Speaker 4: from one of these temp agencies and hire them in. Oh,
- 1:24:20Speaker 4: we don't do that. Don't talk about it.
- 1:24:23Speaker 2: Right?
- 1:24:23Speaker 4: And that went through.
- 1:24:26Speaker 1: The the head.
- 1:24:29Speaker 4: For that day, the head nurse of all the nurses,
- 1:24:33Speaker 4: the administrators in the building and corporate. And I got
- 1:24:41Speaker 4: written up for it, for insubordination, for pointing out that
- 1:24:46Speaker 4: we were violating the law and showing, you know, describing
- 1:24:51Speaker 4: a way in which we could get right with the
- 1:24:54Speaker 4: law and do what we were supposed to do. So
- 1:24:57Speaker 4: I called the state ombudsman for the elderly because I
- 1:25:04Speaker 4: couldn't just go along with it. If I just go
- 1:25:06Speaker 4: along with it, I'm guilty of the same thing. Exactly
- 1:25:11Speaker 4: the same thing that the company's guilty of. And the
- 1:25:15Speaker 4: ombudsman came in not too long after that, actually. Walked
- 1:25:23Speaker 4: in the door and found like three violations on the spot.
- 1:25:28Speaker 4: One of them was a woman sitting unintended by herself
- 1:25:33Speaker 4: facing the wall in a wheelchair who looked like she'd
- 1:25:36Speaker 4: been just sitting like that for hours. She was completely
- 1:25:42Speaker 4: not taken care of in the moment by anybody. And
- 1:25:49Speaker 4: I had told her everything that was going on, everything
- 1:25:52Speaker 4: that I had seen, that because this was People's grandparents.
- 1:25:58Speaker 4: And it was so bad that initially my grandmother had
- 1:26:04Speaker 4: been going to do her recovery at this nursing home
- 1:26:06Speaker 4: after her injury. She fell and broke a hip. And
- 1:26:09Speaker 4: we pulled her out of there and had her recover
- 1:26:12Speaker 4: at home and paid for in-home health care because the
- 1:26:17Speaker 4: place was so bad. And they shut it down. The
- 1:26:23Speaker 4: state shut it down. there were actually people that went
- 1:26:26Speaker 4: to jail because of this. Um, this was a big
- 1:26:30Speaker 4: deal and I got fired and, you know, I, I
- 1:26:35Speaker 4: let the ombudsman know that they fired me for snitching. And,
- 1:26:41Speaker 4: you know, I said, I don't really want to fight
- 1:26:43Speaker 4: for this job. It's, you know, at that time minimum
- 1:26:47Speaker 4: wage was 425 an hour and I was making 450. Uh,
- 1:26:50Speaker 4: it wasn't a job worth fighting for. Um, But especially,
- 1:26:55Speaker 4: you know, I was already burned out from it. And
- 1:27:00Speaker 4: six months was all it took to burn me out
- 1:27:02Speaker 4: at that place. But I had three weeks of training,
- 1:27:09Speaker 4: zero experience in health care. Aside from that three weeks
- 1:27:12Speaker 4: where we learned what our responsibilities were. And we had
- 1:27:16Speaker 4: to sign a paper that said, you know, uh, here's
- 1:27:20Speaker 4: the list of things that are considered abuse. If you
- 1:27:23Speaker 4: do any of these things, you can get convicted and, uh,
- 1:27:27Speaker 4: you have a crime and you actually go on a
- 1:27:29Speaker 4: perpetrator list that keeps you from working in any kind
- 1:27:33Speaker 4: of healthcare for this many years afterward, at least depending
- 1:27:38Speaker 4: on the offense, it can be worse than that. If
- 1:27:40Speaker 4: you injure somebody or you're convicted of something like assault
- 1:27:44Speaker 4: on the, on the side, because of it, it gets worse. Um,
- 1:27:50Speaker 4: for three weeks of education and training and a certification
- 1:27:56Speaker 4: that you have to have continuing education for in things
- 1:28:01Speaker 4: like CPR. This woman had four years. She had a
- 1:28:09Speaker 4: bachelor's degree, at least, at least a bachelor's degree in
- 1:28:15Speaker 4: one of the natural sciences. in at least a year
- 1:28:18Speaker 4: and doing a similar job where she would have had
- 1:28:21Speaker 4: experience and training. And she would have been given all
- 1:28:24Speaker 4: of the same information I was given by my company.
- 1:28:28Speaker 4: Most companies have something called an organizational integrity program. And
- 1:28:34Speaker 4: if you work in healthcare, you hear about it on
- 1:28:38Speaker 4: your first day of training. You have to sign a
- 1:28:40Speaker 4: paper saying that you know about it, and you've been
- 1:28:44Speaker 4: shown how to contact the person in charge, or at
- 1:28:48Speaker 4: least your contact within that program to ensure that the
- 1:28:55Speaker 4: company is complying with all of the laws that oversee
- 1:29:00Speaker 4: how the company provides care for people. And if you don't,
- 1:29:08Speaker 4: they don't hire you. They won't take you in. If
- 1:29:12Speaker 4: you don't receive that, you're working in a bad place
- 1:29:14Speaker 4: and you shouldn't be there. You should be considering going
- 1:29:19Speaker 4: through channels or calling an ombudsman. But she would.
- 1:29:25Speaker 3: Have had all that information.
- 1:29:27Speaker 4: So there is no excuse. Like this idea that she
- 1:29:30Speaker 4: thought she could blame the higher ups and get away
- 1:29:36Speaker 4: with it. Knowing that she had that information and she
- 1:29:42Speaker 4: could have gone to somebody for help reforming the situation
- 1:29:49Speaker 4: if it was that bad. To honestly believe she could
- 1:29:54Speaker 4: go into court and I don't know, get a sentence
- 1:29:57Speaker 4: reduction or something because she blames the higher ups for, for, uh, not, uh, moderating,
- 1:30:07Speaker 4: you know, how fast they want her to work and
- 1:30:09Speaker 4: stuff like that. I just, you have to be as
- 1:30:15Speaker 4: unaccountable as a woman. And, and I say this as
- 1:30:19Speaker 4: a woman who stuck her neck out and got fired
- 1:30:21Speaker 4: for being a whistleblower.
- 1:30:23Speaker 3: Um, Like, just the idea, I.
- 1:30:30Speaker 4: Knew this was happening and didn't say anything about it,
- 1:30:33Speaker 4: is just as bad as saying this was happening.
- 1:30:39Speaker 3: It's just as.
- 1:30:41Speaker 4: Accusatory toward yourself as accusing the people who made it happen.
- 1:30:48Speaker 4: I knew my employer was breaking the law and didn't
- 1:30:50Speaker 4: say anything about it is a confession, not an excuse. So,
- 1:30:58Speaker 4: I know this woman was unaccountable from the beginning, and
- 1:31:02Speaker 4: I hope that all of the people whose lives she
- 1:31:05Speaker 4: fucked up get justice. And that's that. Like, if a
- 1:31:12Speaker 4: dude did this, feminists would be from the rooftops shouting,
- 1:31:18Speaker 4: all this stuff about false allegations is really just this
- 1:31:21Speaker 4: one guy making DNA testing inaccurate. But it wasn't a man,
- 1:31:29Speaker 4: it was a woman, so you don't hear jack shit
- 1:31:30Speaker 4: from them. They're not even going to complain about the
- 1:31:35Speaker 4: rape victims that she might have taken justice away from.
- 1:31:38Speaker 3: So there you go.
- 1:31:43Speaker 4: The accountability gap, even with her sentence, that accountability gap
- 1:31:50Speaker 4: still shows because of her attitude.
- 1:31:56Speaker 1: All right. Well, thank you for that. And that's the
- 1:32:03Speaker 1: last story. So now we're going to go into the
- 1:32:05Speaker 1: patron show and we're going to look at this article
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- 1:32:28Speaker 1: game nights and there are watch parties and other things
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- 1:32:33Speaker 2: So.
- 1:32:34Speaker 1: But with all that said, we're going to have to
- 1:32:36Speaker 1: wrap it up because the sausage went a little bit over.
- 1:32:39Speaker 1: I did get a super chat from whatever slots or
- 1:32:43Speaker 1: ten twenty dollars.
- 1:32:44Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 1:32:44Speaker 1: Whatever slots. And he says, love the content. Thanks for
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- 1:32:50Speaker 1: Grace content? He's been around for a while. Thanks again. Yes,
- 1:32:54Speaker 1: I've watched Alexander Grace for many years. There's a few
- 1:32:57Speaker 1: people in the space that are doing good stuff. And
- 1:33:00Speaker 1: I've noticed that Alexander Grace has... He's one of these
- 1:33:04Speaker 1: people that I brought up when I said that there
- 1:33:07Speaker 1: are people that are really starting to look at women
- 1:33:10Speaker 1: as full agents of their activities. And Alexander Grace has been...
- 1:33:16Speaker 1: seeing more and more of this and becoming more sympathetic
- 1:33:19Speaker 1: to men's issues. Whereas before he was primarily like a
- 1:33:22Speaker 1: dating coach guy that was like, you know, would talk
- 1:33:25Speaker 1: about like, um, game and things like this. But you know, when, um,
- 1:33:31Speaker 1: when women have completely lost the, lost the plot and
- 1:33:34Speaker 1: they're basically supporting child murderers, it's going to like change
- 1:33:38Speaker 1: your priorities. You're going to be like, well, maybe, maybe, um,
- 1:33:41Speaker 1: maybe game isn't the most important thing right now. And
- 1:33:44Speaker 1: I think that he is starting to see that, but, Anyway,
- 1:33:47Speaker 1: with that said, thank you for the super chat, whatever slots. Yes,
- 1:33:51Speaker 1: I am familiar with Alexander Grace. Well, with all that said,
- 1:33:54Speaker 1: we're going to go into this, and hopefully we'll see
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