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Glenn Brummert AIRED OUT ! · Aired Out

• 1:47
  Speaker 1: I know exactly what she is saying this morning to himself.
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: I know exactly what she is thinking. What are you
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: doing with that music? Jd am? I right? Gee, you
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  Speaker 1: know I'm right. Good morning everybody. How in the hell
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: are you look at this handsome freaking dude right next
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  Speaker 1: to me? Glenn Brom what's going on? Dude, buddy? Usually
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  Speaker 1: you're at home this morning? Oh yeah, you're at home
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  Speaker 1: every morning watching listening. I have wanted to have your
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  Speaker 1: ass on this show for years and I mean literally years.
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  Speaker 2: I know you had to get a bigger couch on
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  Speaker 2: my big ass.
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  Speaker 1: And here, buddy, what in the hell is going on?
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  Speaker 1: How are you good?
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  Speaker 2: Life is good? Yeah, can't complain. Summer's over, can't stand
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  Speaker 2: at heat?
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  Speaker 1: God? You you lost thirty freaking pounds this summer?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah since June.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So you live alone? Yeah, that's not easy doing well.
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  Speaker 1: It's not especially when you when you live alone, because
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  Speaker 1: you don't have someone constantly on your ass hounding you.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you got to you got to be self disciplined, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got nobody to tell me.
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  Speaker 1: What to do, right, So you so what happened? The
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  Speaker 1: doctor was like, dude, you got you need to shed
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  Speaker 1: some weight here, Well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't. I got type two diabetes. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 2: so they tried me on different what do you call
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  Speaker 2: that ozempic yeah yeah, and then they recently in June,
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  Speaker 2: they switched me to manchoro, yeah, which the side effect
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  Speaker 2: is you lose weight. Yeah right, But I'm taking it
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  Speaker 2: for the diabetes, sure, right, And well I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to complain about it. And it's helped my knees because
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  Speaker 2: oh yeah, now I seem to be able to walk
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  Speaker 2: a lot better. And if I can keep going, that's good.
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  Speaker 2: The only problem is that the pharmacies are running out
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  Speaker 2: of this shit. Yeah right, you can't get it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if you take it regularly, it's going to be an
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  Speaker 2: effective drug.
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: And if you take it four weeks and then skip
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  Speaker 2: two weeks because you can't get it, yeah, it kind
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  Speaker 2: of puts you.
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  Speaker 1: Right right right now. Yeah, you know. And I've heard
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  Speaker 1: I've heard so many people just say the best way
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  Speaker 1: to do it, it's just the old fashioned way of
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  Speaker 1: just oh yeah, trying to eat right, yeah, and giving
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  Speaker 1: a little pin of exercise.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, might exercise. Well, now, the doctors was very
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  Speaker 2: Hey told me you know, the more the way you
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  Speaker 2: can lose, the better you'll feeling. My knees are so
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  Speaker 2: full oust the art right as I can barely walk.
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  Speaker 2: I can't stand up from more than four minutes at
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  Speaker 2: a time, so I stay home.
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  Speaker 1: You're on the couch this morning, brother. Yeah, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk about this couch in a second. But I want
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  Speaker 1: to throw some birthdays at you here. If you know anyone,
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  Speaker 1: give him a shout here. Jennifer ains Today, Joan Williams,
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  Speaker 1: Rosa font Logan Spencer, Michelle Welch, Claire McCaffrey, John Nelson, Miles,
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  Speaker 1: Jordan French, Heidi Ankles, and Tom Rude. Anyone on that
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  Speaker 1: list that you know, I don't think all right, they're
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  Speaker 1: all on the birthday list today. It is Tuesday, five
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  Speaker 1: dollars Tuesdays back at the Capitol Theater, skip the line,
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: get the mudpillier, FGB Theaters dot com if you want
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  Speaker 1: to see everything that's playing six usually like six thirty
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  Speaker 1: six forty five movies. But Facebook, Instagram for all the
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  Speaker 1: show times and what's playing tonight, and there's some good
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  Speaker 1: movies that are out. I'm going to try to sneak
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  Speaker 1: in one real soon here there's some really good stuff out.
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  Speaker 1: We have clouds and rain showers today, off and on,
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  Speaker 1: fifty eight degrees for the daytime high partly cloudy tonight
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  Speaker 1: forty five. Tomorrow mostly cloudy and fifty and yes, gee,
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  Speaker 1: we will have a little bit of sun on Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: not much, clouds and sun both in the mix. Highs
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  Speaker 1: around fifty two on Thursday. Looking ahead here Facebook question
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  Speaker 1: of the day, Halloween costume prices are they scaring you?
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  Speaker 1: Was in a store yesterday and saw some of them,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, you got to be kidding me.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to be kidding me. Lily is going to
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  Speaker 1: be going as Harley Quinn and is so excited. But
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  Speaker 1: these these Halloween costumes are insane right now. At the
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  Speaker 1: prices of the not not only the Halloween costumes, but
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  Speaker 1: also the candy, unbelievable. Now, you could trigger traders over
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  Speaker 1: at your house.
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  Speaker 2: But oh yeah, I usually get a two.
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  Speaker 1: That's it.
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  Speaker 2: I live up on Camp Street. Nobody wants to walk
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  Speaker 2: up that hill. Yeah, yeah, two or three?
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  Speaker 1: I got Youah. Wendy's saying, hey, cuz, Wendy, Wendy.
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  Speaker 2: Jean, Oh hi Wendy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeahs you got Becky wibble on here of course, Stacy Holden,
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  Speaker 1: Josh Howard, Hey, guys. Yeah, Shirley yeah, oh, she says,
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  Speaker 1: A belated birthday to my son, which was the tenth
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  Speaker 1: and the last time I had that. Shirley gave me
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  Speaker 1: a bird. I think I screwed it up and totally
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  Speaker 1: forgot about it. So at least we're getting that one
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  Speaker 1: on this morning. Just give us his full name so
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  Speaker 1: we can, you know, throw some love at him. Dude.
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  Speaker 1: You I think I think were possibly the very first
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  Speaker 1: Facebook follower of the aired OW podcast. I think you
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  Speaker 1: were like one of the like top ten first people.
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  Speaker 1: And I remember your name, and you have been.
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  Speaker 2: Like pissing and moaning and complaining.
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  Speaker 1: Well in addition to in addition to that, you have
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  Speaker 1: been such a devoted follower in every single morning you
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  Speaker 1: are locked on, dude. See, you're like one of the
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  Speaker 1: first ones in with your comments. You're watching, you're listening.
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  Speaker 1: There's also been a couple of times where I have
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  Speaker 1: caused your your blood pressure to just just explode.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, this is true, very true.
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  Speaker 1: You've been worked up a few times.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yes, there's a few few words that will trigger me.
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  Speaker 1: Do you do you remember any of those specific shows. Hm,
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  Speaker 1: they got you really worked up.
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  Speaker 2: There's not so much the entire shows, but different segments
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  Speaker 2: are when you start talking about certain people and my yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean I my blood Yeah, if you say Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 2: my blood pressure goes up.
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  Speaker 1: I know. Sorry you and josh Is is reminding us
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  Speaker 1: about the the guys of peace deal and the hostages
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  Speaker 1: being freed. Man, this is buzzing hard right now. This
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  Speaker 1: is a huge, huge, huge story. Humas released the last
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  Speaker 1: twenty living Israeli hostages yesterday under that ceasefire deal that
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  Speaker 1: thankfully has paused more than two years of war in Gaza.
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  Speaker 1: October seventh, twenty twenty three. What a day that was.
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  Speaker 1: We all remember the attacks. It was just what was
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  Speaker 1: happening in the world was just insane and reverberated globally
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  Speaker 1: within minutes, if not less.
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  Speaker 2: Horrible, horrible event.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was surprised to see actually how well the hostages
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  Speaker 2: were looking. Yeah, I'm like, wow, they must have been
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  Speaker 2: feeding them the last week or two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think many were israel Than freed.
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  Speaker 1: About two thousand Palestinian prisoners and detainees. This is all
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  Speaker 1: part of the US backed twenty point piece plan that is.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think it's uh, you know, not to
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  Speaker 1: be a pessimist here, but I think it's a little
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  Speaker 1: early to be celebrating too much. I think we just
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  Speaker 1: need to take one thing out of that.
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  Speaker 2: There's always been explosive exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. I'm just looking here. This plan includes returning the
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  Speaker 1: bodies of twenty eight dead hostages. AMAS released four bodies yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: They say they don't know the location of some of
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  Speaker 1: the bodies, and now we've got an international task force
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  Speaker 1: that has been assigned to finding those.
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  Speaker 2: Luck with that under all them bob buildings.
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  Speaker 1: And I know, I don't know how that's possible, but
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  Speaker 1: there's been some partial withdrawal from Gaza. I just think that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I see a lot of fists in the
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  Speaker 1: air and a lot of celebration. I just think we
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  Speaker 1: need to just relax here and.
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  Speaker 2: Just definitely you know, I've seen a lot of them
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  Speaker 2: are going back to wearing the black garb again on
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  Speaker 2: the streets. They're not blending in with the with the population.
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  Speaker 2: They're still yeah, they're still active.
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  Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of stuff that's that's going on.
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  Speaker 2: The one I saw this morning, I saw them lining
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  Speaker 2: up people and shooting him in the back of the head.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't know if it was old footage or
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  Speaker 2: present footage since the peace deal has gone through. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but it was horrific.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, what, Yeah, now you're a veteran, Yes, Air Force.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, seventies seventy two to Yeah, okay, I went in
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  Speaker 2: in seventy two. I was seventeen years old. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: want to miss the Vietnam War. Can you believe that? Man,
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  Speaker 2: I was just a kid.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I want to have excitement and adventure, and I thought
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  Speaker 2: that's where I was going to find it.
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  Speaker 1: That was that was a feeling for many, many, many
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  Speaker 1: many people. Oh yeah, yeah, I've I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: miss out. I want to get involved. I want to
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  Speaker 1: I want to go with my other my other friends.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I say. I drew up with John Wayne
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  Speaker 2: as my hero, and that's what we did America furs,
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  Speaker 2: go go, go join up, fight the bad guys. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but you know that was my spit it out. My
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  Speaker 2: mom and dad both worked extensively and they were older
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  Speaker 2: than me, so I my babysitter was Uncle John Wayne Wow,
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  Speaker 2: and then later in life Uncle Jack Daniel Daniels.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but uh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I didn't want to miss out and I
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  Speaker 2: joined and it wasn't what I thought it was going
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  Speaker 2: to be. And yeah, I got fucked up.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm glad you're I'm glad you're home.
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  Speaker 2: Well I am too. It's taking me a long time
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  Speaker 2: to work through the ship that happened to me when
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  Speaker 2: I was in there, though, and it still haunts me.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's like I have a warehouse in the
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  Speaker 2: back of my my brain. I call it my brain warehouse,
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  Speaker 2: and I stick all that crap back there. Sometimes it
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  Speaker 2: comes out and bites you in the ass.
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  Speaker 1: You've heard Gee talk about his shelf. Yeah, yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: he puts things. Same yeah, same thing for.
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  Speaker 2: You, yep, same principle. Yeah, oh yeah. I've had a
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  Speaker 2: lot of shit happened to me in my life.
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  Speaker 1: I know you have. I know you have, and not
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  Speaker 1: a whole hell of a lot of it has been
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  Speaker 1: great stuff.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not I should write a book.
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  Speaker 1: Well maybe you should.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't. I probably should. I mean, from the
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: age of two, it's just been a traumatic.
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  Speaker 1: Uh one one one thing after another.
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  Speaker 2: One thing after another. Yeah, but I'm like, I don't
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  Speaker 2: give up I don't want to give up. I want
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  Speaker 2: to see how this movie ends.
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  Speaker 1: Here's this is the exactly why I've got you on
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  Speaker 1: the air this morning. A comment that we just got
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  Speaker 1: from Mary. She says, Hi, Glenn, it's nice to learn
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  Speaker 1: about other listeners. That's I love that. Yeah, me too,
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  Speaker 1: I absolutely love that. I mean, you're someone who's locked
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  Speaker 1: in here every single day and I've asked you in
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  Speaker 1: the past. I'm like, dude, you need to come on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast. No, no, god, no, I can't do that.
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  Speaker 1: And here you are. Yes, indeed, and I'm really happy
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  Speaker 1: about that. I'm really glad about that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how much time I got left, so
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  Speaker 2: I wanted him.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, it's fantastic, man, And I want to talk about
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  Speaker 1: your life. So you were just talking about age two
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  Speaker 1: up has been in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom gave me away when I was two
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  Speaker 2: years old. What who gives away their kids? Back in
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  Speaker 2: the day, that was and you know nowadays it's different,
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  Speaker 2: but back then.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, Wow, where was this in Pennsylvaniennsylvania?
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  Speaker 2: Yep, I lived in Johnstown or I grew up in Johnstown, Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 1: Did you have did you have any any biological brothers
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  Speaker 1: or sisters that were also given.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I did have a brother and three sisters, uh well,
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  Speaker 2: four sisters. I didn't know about one of them, but
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  Speaker 2: I never really knew about them either until I was
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  Speaker 2: in my teens. I was raised as an only child,
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  Speaker 2: so by adoptive I was adopted by an aunt and
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  Speaker 2: an uncle of ours would they They used to try
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  Speaker 2: and keep it in the family back in the day.
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  Speaker 2: So my aunt and my uncle adopted me, and uh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Then they moved to to uh yeah, New York, and
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  Speaker 2: I lost contact with all my family, and so I
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  Speaker 2: basically grew up alone, an only child in New York.
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  Speaker 2: In New York with my parents working all the time. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I was like one of the original latch key kids.
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  Speaker 1: And your parents once again, that was an aunt and
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  Speaker 1: and uncle. Yes, okay, so they didn't keep you connected
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  Speaker 1: to your biological family back in Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 2: No, Well, back in that time it was the sixties,
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  Speaker 2: so you know, hard work back there. My dad worked
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  Speaker 2: in the coal mine for twenty years where in well,
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  Speaker 2: South Fork, which is right next to Johnstown, Pennsylvania. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: he was a coal miner for twenty years.
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  Speaker 1: Your biological dad, yes, got it?
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  Speaker 2: That's where the story gets really odd. In any event,
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  Speaker 2: he uh, yeah, he retired from the coal mines, and
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  Speaker 2: then he got a job working in New York, which
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  Speaker 2: paid much better. So he moved us to New York. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so we Yeah, that's but left everybody behind. So I
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  Speaker 2: grew up with no cousins, and well I knew my cousins,
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  Speaker 2: but I didn't have activities with them. I didn't. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I know who they are, and I knew who they were.
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  Speaker 1: No holidays, no memories.
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  Speaker 2: No, not that stuff. We would go back once in
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  Speaker 2: a while for when when I was really young, we
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  Speaker 2: might go back to Grandma's for Christmas or Thanksgiving or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so your dad was technically your uncle.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah he was. Well, put it this way. He was
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  Speaker 2: my uncle, but he was technically my dad. Okay, it's
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  Speaker 2: a long story. Yeah, yeah, no that you need another hour.
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  Speaker 1: That's fascinating. So you're in New York and you have
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  Speaker 1: created a whole network of different friends.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Yeah. I was a normal kid. I was
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  Speaker 2: a happy little kid, cute as hell. Everybody loved me.
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  Speaker 1: I graduated from high school.
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  Speaker 2: I quit high school because I was seventeen and I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to join the military.
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  Speaker 1: You wanted to go to Vietnam.
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  Speaker 2: Right, But when I was in the military, I got
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  Speaker 2: my high school diploma from the State of Washington, d C.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: They had a satellite campus on the base, so I did.
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  Speaker 2: I graduated in seventy three. I have a regular high
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  Speaker 2: school diploma, and then I went on to college on
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  Speaker 2: the via.
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  Speaker 1: Bill after Vietnam. Yes, okay, Kenny, Big Kenny, Yeah, he's
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  Speaker 1: listening this morning. He says, holy shit, my father lived
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  Speaker 1: in Johnstown. Remember the flood.
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  Speaker 2: Oh hell, yes, I remember all three of them. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: my mom and dad got flooded out in the seven,
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  Speaker 2: the one in the seventies. Yeah, I was I went
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: back to help with that.
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  Speaker 1: And wow, you you met Big Kenny. Oh yeah, at
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  Speaker 1: the up at the fight, the battle and Bury. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and great Rex. Rex threatened me the other day saying
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  Speaker 1: that I absolutely have to have you end Big Kenny
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  Speaker 1: sharing that couch.
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  Speaker 2: Oh sweet. So this is the war stories they could come.
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  Speaker 1: This would be retired police officer, Oh yeah, versus retired outlaw. Right.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, but we're just people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not that amazing though. But when I'm not saying that,
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  Speaker 1: you guys are old. But when I'm saying, when you
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: get up there.
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  Speaker 2: Now I'm old?
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  Speaker 1: How old are you?
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  Speaker 2: Seventy?
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  Speaker 1: All right? When you get up there, though, you look
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  Speaker 1: back at life with a different.
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  Speaker 2: Less incredibly different, a.
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  Speaker 1: Whole different lens. Man. It's a different perspective.
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  Speaker 2: You bet, oh man. The things I've done and seen
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  Speaker 2: and seeing how the world is going now, it drives me.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to leave my house. Every time I
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  Speaker 2: go out there, I get into some kind of altercation.
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  Speaker 2: If it's driving down the road, somebody gives I just
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  Speaker 2: people have become very unpleasant.
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  Speaker 1: Are you a grumpy old man?
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  Speaker 2: I am a grumpy I'm a curmudge and you are.
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  Speaker 2: That's how grumpy I am. You ask anybody I know?
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  Speaker 1: Really? Oh yeah, see I look at you as a
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  Speaker 1: as a happy, happy, a happy guy.
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  Speaker 2: But that's the side I really am.
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  Speaker 1: That's the side that I that I know, I really am.
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  Speaker 2: I just put out a persona. Now Facebook is all
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  Speaker 2: bullshit anyway, So I'm like, Wow, I'm a ruppie man.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: What's going on there? Poo poo on this poop?
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  Speaker 1: He pat Patty's saying, what a good looking fellow on here?
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  Speaker 2: Oh boy?
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  Speaker 1: Finally, so you were you were a police officer? Yep, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: just outside of New York City.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, twenty miles north.
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  Speaker 1: Damn fella.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Piermont, Piermont, New York. It was Yeah, it was fun.
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  Speaker 1: What was that? How long were you a police officer for?
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  Speaker 2: Let's see, eight years? Eight years? I got hurt on
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: the job.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: What happened? Did you get shot?
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: No? Everybody that would be glamorous. Now I didn't get shot, dudes, Hey,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: you're what I fucked up my back?
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got involved in a in a car accident
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: in pursuit and wow. Yeah, but we had a small department,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: so I was going to be laid up for like
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: six months and they just couldn't maintain that. Plus I
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: would have been up with the way my back was,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I couldn't lift anything right, so I would have been
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: a liability. Really what was his eighties in the I
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: retired in nineteen ninety Okay, yeah, I got into the
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: police department when after I got out of the military.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Was there anything going on in the eighties that is
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: still going on today? Smuggling?
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah?
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: What was the what was the drug activity? Like? What
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: did you see twenty back miles out of New York City.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Were there any arteries coming?
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: There was a main artery coming right up past my
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: little village, but it was not a predominantly It was
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: not like the Interstate the old nine. W Okay, it
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: goes all the way down the Hudson side of the
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Hudson River, all the way down into Jersey and and yeah, man,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: so they would use that come and pass all these
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: po dunk towns with the Barney Fife police officers. Yes,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: but we weren't. And we had gone through extensive training
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: at the Police Academy and New York. We trained with
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: New York City Police, and in fact I went to
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: the FBI Firearms Instructors School and trained with them for
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: a while. So we were not bumpkins. And when they
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: would come up and get busted, the shock on their face,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I loved it. Huh.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I'm sure the thought was if we can get into
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: the thick of the populace, will be okay. But you
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: guys were protecting the perimeter of New York City.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: And absolutely we were like the cutoff guys, Like, what's
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: going on now? We need some cutoff guys down on
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: New Hampshire cutting them off from getting into Vermont.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Wow, it's not just New Hampshire, dude. Well in Massachusetts they.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Got their coming out of Massachusetts and Connecticut and yeah,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: stop them somewhere.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, Syracuse, Oh, it's terrible. Springfield, mass of course, Boston.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: It wasn't as bad. I mean, I maybe I'm gonna
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: be said to be wrong, but I don't think it
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: was as bad back in my day because we didn't,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I mean we would. We dealt with pot, heroin and cocaine, okay,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: and then you know, like Kway ludes came along, but
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: mainly pot, heroin and cocaine. Nowadays they got all kinds
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: of this weird shit coming up. You get your faint
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: gnel in it, and I forget there's some other something
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: that starts with a D and I wouldn't touch that ship.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Nowadays you don't know what is in it. Yeah, absolutely not.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: No wonder everybody's overdosing.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Do you make some big drug bus when you were a.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Cup No big ones, little bitty ones. You know, people
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: in their cars with the I don't know, an eight
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: ball or a half an ounce of weed or the
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: big that's the regular people that we were pulling over
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: on a daily basis. Every once in a while, you'd
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: get a truck coming through and exactly that's what we
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: would do. We would stop them and there would be
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: you know, there would be a couple of pounds in
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: the bay. And back then it's different. Again, it was
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: a couple pounds could make a lot of money. And
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: nowadays they send it were hundreds and pounds, so it
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: is different. It was a different world. But the eighties,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: that's when them guys in Miami were making their big bugs.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: You know, it was your little friend.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: It was Miami and the straight line to New York
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: City from Miami and Chicago, and.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: They would come out of there and come up and
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: try and spread their crap at but we put the
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: hammer down.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Did you did you ever dapple in any substances other
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: than Jack Daniels? Oh yeah, really, Oh.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I told you. I was born in the fifties,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I raised in the sixties.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: What'd you do?
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: I smoked a lot of weed in my lifetime. I'm
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: not going to deny it. Yeah, I'm seventy. I don't
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: give a fuck. It's legal in Vermont. I'm like happy.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: What have you done anything other than pop?
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I used to well, it was the eighties, and
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: before I became a cop, I was a normal twenty
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: year old having fun. And yeah I snorted coke O kuayludes.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I fucking love kuayludes. Bad boy, bad boy. But yeah,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: I you know, I got a I got married, I
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: we had kids. I calmed down. I realized, you know,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: I need a real job. So then I got a job.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: As I worked a lot in between jobs until I
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: got to the cop job, and they were all I
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: call them bull job bullwark jobs. Yeah, I busted my
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: body up so bad.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: What you do.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I worked on a moving truck for two years, uh,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: lifting baby grand pianos up five flights of stairs. And
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: and then I worked at Glenshaw Glass make glass bottles
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: back in the day when we made real glass bottles.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Where was this That was in Orangeburg, New York, Okay.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: And it was a dangerous job. I got hazardous duty pay.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: It was one of the most well paid jobs in
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: the county because you were working with molten glass.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah right.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: The glass was thirty two hundred degrees and it would
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: come down a shoot in a drop into an arm
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: and then an air a device would top on top
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: of it and blow the bottle into a mold and
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: then when the bottle was molded, it would open up
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: be extracted. But you had to take a huge Q
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: tip cotton swab like thing and dipping in sulfur quickly
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: and then quickly swab the inside of the blanks before
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: they shot more stuff and closed, and people have got
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: their hands and caught in the air and lost fingers
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: because when it closes it's thirty two hundred degrees. You
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: don't have to worry about going to the hospital.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: You just lose a limb.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: You just it's not it's you lose that and it's charterized,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: so shit, dude. Yeah, and that lasted for a while.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: But I think I got an ulcer from that job.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: And then I got burned really bad on.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: My foot from that job.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, one of the lines broke and I had
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: like fifty two liters hot bottles land on my feet
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: and I was trying to sweep them and break them up.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: That's how you got rid of them. But I didn't
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: realize my boots were full of oil and the hot
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: glass was heating the oil, and it just seeped into
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: my toes and burnt all my toes.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: What did you say? When that happened out, shit, dude.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Now what I said was, honey, I think this job
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: has come to an end.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: What'd you do after that?
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: That's all? That's right. Then I went to work for Reya.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: It was called Ford Products, no affiliation to the car manufacturer.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: They made hot water heaters and furnaces and woodstoves. They
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: had a big factory down there, and I ended up
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: being the supervisor for the warehouse and the shipping department,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: and then it elit led to I was running the
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: whole shipping and receiving department.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, then what well?
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: I worked there for two years and I figured, you know,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: that was the way I did things. I would work
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: at a place for two years and if I saw advancement,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: I'd stick it out. If I didn't see I was
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: going to move up or advance, there was no points
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: in there any longer. I had learned enough to move on,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: and I would usually do that. And then one day
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: my wife said to me, you know, you really what
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: go for being a cop? Be a cop? You wanted
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: to be a cop. You always want to be a cop.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Be a cop. And I'm like, yeah, you know what, Yes,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I will. I'm going to do that. So I took
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: all the tests and you had to score like ninety
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: nine or one hundred on a test. And I took
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: two different tests. First one, I had a ninety nine,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: but there were people that more, people that had the hundreds.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: And they only have so many positions, you know, It's
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: not like right up here, right now down there, there
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: were ten thousand applicants for one job. So but I
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: got in. I looked at I got in. I almost
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: made it to the state troopers for the Olympics when
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: he had the Olympics over in Lake Placid. I applied
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: for that, and I went through all the training and
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: all the tests, and I was right there that I
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: had the job, and then affirmative Action took over and
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: they gave my job to a woman. I'll say it,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: but that's okay. I was like, oh, yeah, it was
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: pretty upsetting. But then you said then I said, I'm
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: just going to go local to help with this, help
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: my people in my community. All right, I'll serve my community.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: But then you said I'm done with this whole police thing,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: and I'm done.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Well, once I got hurt, yeah, I.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Had been.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah that was in ninety so I stuck around down
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: in New York for another six years and raised my kids.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: They were going to Catholic school. We really didn't want
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: to move them out of that. And eventually my son
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: had been walking down the street in our town and
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: they have what they called Bodega's down there, and he
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: walked by and it was practically in the middle of
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: a drive by shooting. So when he got home and
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: he told us all about that, I looked at my
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: wife Kathy, and I said, that's it. We're done, We're
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: out of here. We gotta find what did you do?
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Did you throw a dart at the map? Or like?
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: What what brought you to? You went to Vermont?
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: I love this what brought me to Vermont. We got
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: up one morning and I said to the kid. Kathy
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: and I looked at each other and said, it's vacation time.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Let's go. And I'm like, yeah, okay, let's fuck with
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: the kids a little bit. So I said, hey, we're
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: going to We're gonna go get some lobster. So we
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: all hopped into the suburban. And I had a big,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: old ninety suburban, huge boat, and we all piled in.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I had four kids and we piled in and headed
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: for Maine. So we got to May and they kids
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: were hemming and han. We didn't bring any luggage or anything.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: We just we're going out for dinner. So we got
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: the main and we had you know, we had dinner,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: and then we kept We got up to Freeport and
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: we stayed the night. Then we went up to Wakadia
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: and stayed at bar in bar Harbor and they had
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: just opened Walmart, so we bought everything we needed at
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Walmart in the up in Maine in Ellsworth, Ellsworth, Yeah,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: and then from there, you know, we did a little vacationing.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: But then from there we headed west and we came
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: through the rest of Maine. We stopped in Millan. A
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: whole way along we were checking real estate agents and uh,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: the kids were like, what are you doing? And I was,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: I don't worry about So we checked for what might
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: be available in any state. We went through New Maine
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: and then we got into New Hampshire. We checked out
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: New Hampshire and Lincoln and this and that, and then
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: we ended up coming through Barry just as it was dark,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: and so I like, why don't see any motels or hotels?
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: But I was beat. I said, we gotta stop. So
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: we made it to Montpelier and they said it said
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: that there was a econnor watch up the hill there,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: that one's like in the wall.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Said.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't care where it is. We are stopping.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: So we stopped there for the night and we had
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: a good night. It was dark. We couldn't see shit.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: When we woke up in the morning, I walked out
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: on the balcony and I was like, oh my god, Katy, Kathy,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: this is it. We found it. So we went down
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: to Century twenty one talk to the gentleman by the
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: name of Mike Rossi and what an energetic guy. And
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: he showed us a couple of places in the book
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: and Kathy liked them. I liked some. I really liked
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: the area. We drove around a little bit and it
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: reminds me so much of Pennsylvania. And Kathy would never
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: move to Pennsylvania, but she would move here. And I
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: was fine with that. This is much like Pennsylvania. I'll
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: take it. So we went home, or no, we kept
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: going to can We went over to New York, same stuff,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: and the kids were carrying on by now they were
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: going crazy. Yeah, as you keep it up, We're going north.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Well, at least they weren't in a ford escort.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: No. When we got to Plattsburgh we headed north, They're like, no,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: and we're going for Canada. Now, I said, we're I'm
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: taking We're going to check Canada. So we drove up
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: there and we got to the border and the guys
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: are like, coming into Canada, what's your purpose? I said,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: I just want to say I've been here. And they
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: don't have much humor at the border. No, No, still dull.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: So he's like, Okay, go ahead. So I walked and
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: went up the road about half a mile, turn around,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: and came back down and the kids had calmed down
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: considerably by that point.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, they were scared.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: They didn't want to live in Canada ex and so
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: we had it on home. And then a week later, I,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: my wife and I came back up and checked out
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: a couple of properties with Mike, and of course she
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: fell in love with a nice one up on Camp Street.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Karan Barritt.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I wanted the old farmhouse out in the middle of Marshfield,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: somewhere with twenty acres, but as soon as Mike showed
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: me that, I knew it was done.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: And that was right around what year ninety six? Oh,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: you know exactly when that was.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been here thirty years, almost thirty years, maybe
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: thirty years next month. And you lost Kathy, Yeah I did.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: When was that?
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Well? That well, that was six sixteen years ago. Okay, yeah,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: we well, yeah I might as well. When we lost
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: our daughter when she was sixteen. Uh, and we'd only
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: been here two years at the time. When we got here,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: I thought I died and gone to heaven. I swear
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: I'd never been so happy in my life. People were friendly.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: They wait, I didn't even know anybody, and they're waving
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: at you, and they let you across the road and
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: so where dom I I don't know. They give you information,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: let me help you, let me help you. It's a
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: little different now, but I couldn't believe it. It was heaven.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: And then two years into it, there was a terrible
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: accident and Heather got my daughter, Heather got killed in
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: the accident. She was sixteen, and to say the least,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: it destroyed my family. It devastated me. I actually felt
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: a snap in my brain when they told me up
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: at the hospital that she had passed, and I well,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Kathy broke down and she was just whiling. And I
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: broke down and I was whiling, and I couldn't function.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I I they had to sit me down because I
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: just and I felt this snap in my brain and
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: I swear to God, I don't know what it was,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: but things have never been the same since. So, yeah,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: it was a tough time. And then what year was
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: that about in ninety eight? That was ninety nine. Yeah,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: she died two weeks after birthday.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: And that was the car accident read up here by
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Stones Yes, Yes, of Washington.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, tractor Traylor hit a van full of kids and
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: there were two died from the accident. Poor Linda Mercy,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: she lost her son, and yeah, many of the boys
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: were physically hurt severely. I kind of lost touch with
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: everybody since then. But it's been twenty six years since
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: the accident. And ten years after the accident, Kathy contracted cancer.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: She got melanoma, and I don't exactly know what happened,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: but we ended up she divorced me. It's when you
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: lose a child, your marriage really takes that hit. And
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: we tried and tried, but she dove into the church.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: She went uber Catholic and I was just I was
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: just messed up. I didn't go uber anything any If
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: I went Uber anything, it was uber crazy and it yeah,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: we just it broke us up. So she divorced me.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: I didn't want it. I always loved her and I
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: will always love her. And then the Catholic Church and
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: knowlled the marriage and I was like, we've been married
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: thirty years. Who knows that? But they did in their
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: infinite wisdom. And then that was the day I told them,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: you know, God that I will no longer be practicing
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: any organized religions, but if you're still here for me, goody.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I had a real heart on for the
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Catholic Church. Still do. Sorry, I don't know how to give,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: and I'm definitely having forgiven the kid that was driving
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: the van when it happened. I can't do it. Sorry,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: not sorry. Did I did I lose the point?
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: No? Not not at all. Now I'm just I'm just
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: absorbing every everything that you're you're saying, Yeah, Ben, that's listen.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: I think there's a good number of people who can
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: empathize and try try to imagine being in your shoes
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: and and going through what you went through. I can't
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: imagine going through a quarter of that myself.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: It's been horrible, and I I just I don't know
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: why I just keep hanging on. It's not like I
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: haven't thought about not being here on occasion. I just
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know. That was raised. My parents were really
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: good parents, and they were really old. They were born
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: in nineteen ten, in nineteen eleven, so yeah, my grandmother, yes,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: my grandmother was alive door in the Civil War, and
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: so my parents and my parents were alive doing My
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: mom was a flapper in the twenties, and they lived
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: through World War Two and the Korean War and.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: All of them.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: So they were old, and they came from that greatest
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: generation and they.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: It's a different kind of skin. Man.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Oh man. They taught me so well, and yeah, yeah,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I fall back on a lot of what they taught
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: me all the time. Don't give I just don't give up.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what much worse could happen. Well,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: I don't want to speculate, but I've been through a
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: lot of shit, and it's a lot of bad shit.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: And I don't mean, how much worse can he get?
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't worry about shit happening to me
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: because I've already gone through the worst thing in the
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: world that can happen to somebody. Yes you have, so
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: everything else is like, yes.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, you very much have, and I'm still here. You
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: have one son.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: I have two sons and one more daughter okay, and
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: nine grandchildren and three great grandchildren.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Damn fella.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I taught him how to do something right.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: And you're am I getting this right. You're one boy
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: really enjoys going to the battle and bury with you
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: at the auditorium.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure how much he enjoys going to
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: it with me, but he goes with me, I think
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: secretly he does.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: And what's his name again? That's justin Okay, and I've
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: met him up at the battle in there.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: He works over a capital city, GMC.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Okay. Your other boy, wh.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: He lives over in Goddard College in the in the
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: apartments up there, yep.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: And your other daughter, she lives.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Down in Virginia Beach.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Okay. Do you ever go down there.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: That's a long ride. Now. I used to go down regular,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: but it's a long ride and I can't get on
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: an airplane because they don't make seats big.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Enough we we've chatted before. You've told me that your
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: favorite presenting sponsors here at aired out are Granite City
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: m m A yeah, and Donnybrook Donnyburg Fight Promotions. Yeah.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: You I like Tatros too, Tatro's appliance man, of course,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Mark Tetrow.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: I mean we were not like that.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I know, I believe me. I know love in the
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: pieces you you're Are you hermit? Are you a homebody?
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Are you a recluse? You don't get out much? Now?
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I think I like the toy with the name hermit hermit,
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: but I think more unreclusive.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, I just I don't.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: My friends are almost all gone rest in peace, and
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: the ones that are around or you know, sickly and.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: So as a as a veteran. Let me let me
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: just put a little bit of pressure on you. Have
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: you thought about getting involved with becoming a member of
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: the American Legion Post ten or the VFW Post seven
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: ninety down the road?
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: I have thought it, do you know, Ron Tolman, I
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: don't not personally.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: You know, there's some really damn good people that are
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: part of the leaching in the VFW. Yeah, really wholesome
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: good people. I'm talking good through the bone.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I see that. You know. Obviously I watch
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: all the time. I see all that.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's kind of hard to explain. I've
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: never been a real joiner for big clubs.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Stand I understand that.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: I was like, I don't want to be a member
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: of a club that wants.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Me, but.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: They I don't know. I just I used to be. Well, yeah,
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I joined when I got out of the military, and
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: while I was a police officer, I joined the Vietnam
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Veterans of America. Okay, so siation and I worked on
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: I was on the board for a while and yeah,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: but then I moved up here, and there's no local
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: chapters of that anywhere, the American legion. I never joined
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: the VFW. I tried to join back in the day,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: but there was a time there when they weren't real
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: open to non combat Vietnam veterans. Yeah, but that's changed.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's but it has nothing to do with
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: the organization so much. I just have a lot, I
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: really do. I have a lot of anxiety issues and
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: PTSD for close rooms with a lot of people, can yeah,
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: send me somewhere. I don't like going. Yeah, yeah, but
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: that's all good organizations.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, listen, let me say this because it's on
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: my mind. If there's anything that I can do or
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: anyone speaking on behalf of our listeners that are tuned
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: in right now, that anyone can do here that aired
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: out as a family, for you to extend a hand
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: or a lunch or a coffee or you know, like
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: every Wednesday, Donna Thunder's down there. Well she's not at
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: the VFW rocking out every Wednesday, but every Wednesday they
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: do wing Wednesday. Yeah, and then they bring Donna Thunder
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: in every now and then and she just tears the
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: place to shreds.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: We should go there, we should. I don't mind. See
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: here's the thing. I don't mind doing things, and I
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: will participate in things. I just don't like. I don't
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: like going by myself. Okay, So I need somebody to
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: literally take me somewhere.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: And you know Rex Rex Thompson is a veteran Yeah.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the other day. All right, Yeah, I just
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: saw him on Sunday.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: We should try to God, we all need we all
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: need this, man, we all need this. We need to
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: get out of the house, especially during the winter. You know,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: during the summer, it's the opposite. It's it's not the opposite,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: it's it's overwhelming because we got too much going on.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: But during during the winter, man, it's like, if you
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: ever find some opportunities to do something and you're looking
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: for someone to go with, there's a whole list of
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: people right here that are watching and listening right now
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: that are that are like, hell, yeah, let's go, Glenn.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: I'll pick you up. And I'm one of them.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Dude, good, you know that's just great.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: You when I went down to that car show one time,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: but we should do that again.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: Dude, bomb up for it. I'm sure. Oh I do
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: old cars, man, Wow, I do. I like old cars
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: and guns.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: And your gun guy.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, I am good for you. I haven't no doubt
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: about it. I'm a certified FB I'm.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Sorry, instructor, so you know how to shoot?
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: I do, Yes, I do.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: I want to. I want to ask you about the
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: old days of just this area since the nineties. You've
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: been here for thirty years. What do you miss? What
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: do you miss from here? From from here?
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: I miss h Well, first of all, I missed the
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: incredibly friendly atmosphere we used to have people were happy
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: and they talked to each other. There wasn't all the
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: arguing and fighting. And uh, it seemed more of a
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: wee atmosphere than a me atmosphere. And yeah, the stores,
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: it used to be so vibrant and active around here.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Some of the restaurants, the uh, what was that one
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: down there? Used to be friend well it was Friendlies,
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: but before it was Friendlies. It was kind of like
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: that fifties diner kind of I loved that. Yeah, it's
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: the lobster. We had that lobster place down there. Yeah,
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: it's that steakhouse. Oh my goodness, why would they get
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: rid of a steak house?
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah?
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: And and what have we put in their places? Not
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: a whole lot. And the buildings around here seemed they've
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: they certainly have shown their wear in thirty years. But yeah,
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: I missed stuff like that Nelson's. I love Nelson's, though
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: they've expanded and you get whatever you want in there.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: What was your favorite restaurant?
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: Let me think, what was that one?
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, the steakhouse was pretty often it was was
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: it the Hilltop? The hilltop?
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, going up Quarry Hill Road there, Yeah, there was
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: one up there, I think it was called the Hilltop.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Yep, I love that place, man, I remember that.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was the right going up, going up
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: to hill good food. Yeah, yeah, I don't do them.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: I haven't been into a lot of restaurants downtown here,
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: obviously because I don't go out. But I I'm the Steakhouse.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: I did like the steakhouse, and I like Morgan's and
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: before it was I mean when it was still Morgan.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: Now it's like, I don't know what it turned into.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, Sardo cheese. Of course they're not in Bari.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I haven't been into a lot of the
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: restaurants downtown here. I haven't even been in I don't
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: I'm not a real drinker, so I haven't even been
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: into Gusto's. I'm like, I lived here for thirty years
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: and I've never been into Gustos.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Do you remember? Do you remember Dell's?
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, oh and the one, uh the dugout, the Dougout.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: I die.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: I missed the dugout so bad? Breakfast?
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: Have you have you had it? Have you driven by
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: the dugout?
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I did lately, Yes, just the other day, as
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: a matter of fact, Sunday homely cow.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Have a glance at your monitor there. Oh yeah, I
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: took that picture this morning.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Oh did you? Yeah? It it's did you see the
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: hill behind it though?
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: It's all kid?
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, from them with floods it must have landslide. Yeah,
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: that's a shame. That was such a good place.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Look at that.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: That was back in the day when Yeah, I'm remembered.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: See that thing there, that reminds me back. And when
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: we first got here that was open and it was
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: nice and clean and tasty good. We were all happy.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Lobster remember the lobster They used to do great lobster there.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, we would go there and yeah, it was just peace.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Like I said, the first two years here were heavenly.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we had so much fun. We fell in love
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: with the place, and I still am. That's why I
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: don't leave my daughter and her son. They both want
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: me to move to Virginia Beach. Come down here, you'll
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: have family, people pay attention to you. We got cheaper,
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: we got all kinds of this that I'm like, I
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: love it up here. Yeah. Why would I come down
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: there where it's nine million degrees in this summer?
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't like the heat?
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, I can't take the heat. God, this summer almost
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: killed me.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: It was hot one.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: So no, I don't. I don't want to go to
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Virginia Beach and live.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you just back to the dugout.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what what do you think?
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: What should be done with that situation?
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Well, it can I I would have said something before
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: I noticed that the back of it had washed out,
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: But because that still could be a dangerous situation, Yeah, don't.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: But what could be done with it? Man? It's trash.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: I mean I get down and start.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Over, I've heard, or just knock it down. Yeah, because
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: like like you say that that bank behind it is
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: all caved in from from the last couple of floods,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: and it's.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Might still keep coming.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: You know, and there's a there's that brook that runs
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: right through there. I have heard so much over the
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: years about the dugout, that it's privately owned, that there's
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: the town has their hands tied, there's nothing they can
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: do about it, that there's no ordinance that where the
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: town has any any leverage against this property. And I
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: just wonder how many, you know, kind of like the
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: JJ Newberry building right here, how much longer we're going
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: to go here with this incredible, let's be honest, disgusting iceore.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't that way when I got here.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: I didn't even use the word rat infested. But at
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: some point here and maybe there are discussions that are
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: taking place with the town and the owners. I don't know,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: but at some point I think something has got to
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: be done here.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised something.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we all see it every day when
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: we drive by.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Maybe it'll get hit by some kind of lightning someday. Yeah, jesus,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: it seems to happen around here.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Man. I don't know. Man, it's it's.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: That's an isore, that's for sure.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: It's a huge eyesore, it really is.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: I'm just surprised. I'm really surprised it hasn't all the
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: way caved in and just rotted away.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Well, it kind of is.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: It's pretty close to that.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: It's it's there.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: What would be the benefit of somebody hanging on to that?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Though?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: Why would they? I don't it's not like it's a
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: valuable piece of land, I don't think.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think so not. It's certainly not anymore.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: No, not with that overhanging danger.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, Greg says, there's been a little clean up
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: this past summer. I just wonder you know who that is? Who?
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but what are they cleaning it up? You wanted
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: to just level it and clean it up that way?
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: I know I haven't noticed any cleanup.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: You're not going to do anything with it.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: You can't.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: It's only a habitable.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: It's just I want you to have. Why don't you
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: to have a great winter? Dude?
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Oh? Man, I'm going to try my best. You know,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: I got tickets for the Battling Burry December six, So this.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Is sample of and here we are. Connectivity is my
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: driving force. Man. It's like in relatability. If people can
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: connect with others, connect with connect with you right now
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: and relate to something.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, with you.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: That's the thing. If it wasn't for this podcast, you
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: watching and listening like you do every single morning, you
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have had the pressure put on you from myself
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: and Rex to get out of your house. Oh.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be where I am right now if it
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: wasn't for this show and you.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Guys just a guy Dan, Yeah, dude.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: And when ray Lean was on, she said she helped
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: me so much with a sit you're dealing with Heather's passing,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: particularly on the twenty fifth anniversary. Yeah. Yeah, this has
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: been great for me.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: We we we put some pressure on you to get
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: out of the house and go to this battle in Berry. Yeah,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: and you, Hempton Haut, you pushed back, well, how am
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: I going to get in there? And this and that
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: and this and that, and how am I going to
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: get out? And I don't stay up this late. You
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: had one hundred and one excuses. Oh yeah, but you
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: finally got out of your house, dude, and you went
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: to a battle in Berry and you saw amateur and
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: professional MMA right up close, and you got freaking hooked back.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Man. I can't believe it. I'm a boxing guy normally.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: I grew up watching Olie and Frasier and all them.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: Really.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: Oh yes, and Tyson, oh my god, don't even get
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: me going on in the day.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: In the day when he was like eighteen years.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: Thirty second knockout, Yeah yeah, yeah, And I really the
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: MMA when this first come around, I was not too
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: I didn't know about it.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You you got out to fight and you said,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: this is going to be a tradition. This is good.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to miss the next one, I know,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: and I don't think you've missed one since No.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: I haven't. I'm like, it's for me. I don't have
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: a lot to do and I can't my knee. I
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: used to hunt and fish and hike and all that,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: but I can't do that anymore. I have nothing to do. Yeah,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: and for something like this to be in Barry, I'm like,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: I put it off for many years because I wasn't
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: real happy when he first started it, because I thought
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: it was just gonna be something's going to turn all
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: the gangsters in town into brawlers, and we're gonna I
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: was poo pooing on it for a couple of years.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: I admit it because I like boxing. I love boxing.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: But then as time went on, I realized, well, there's
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: no boxing. There's not going to be any boxing, and
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: boxing has gone down here a little bit. It's hard
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: to find good shows on TV. So I figured I'd
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: give it a try, and oh my goodness, it's such
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: a great sport. That's what I look at it now.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: They're not just beating each other up skilled, the art,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: the train raining, what goes into I mean, I'm trying
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  Speaker 2: to pick up on moves and I see a certain
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: move if they do this, most guys get knocked out
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  Speaker 2: when they do that, and not just learning and noticing,
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  Speaker 2: and man, it's so much fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right up there, dude. You get like the
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  Speaker 1: best seat in the house and you're you're screaming and
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: yelling like it you freaking not case.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think I had it in me, but I do.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: You do you love it?
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: I can't, And like I said, it's fun. The first
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: one was hard for me to get into because my
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: PTSD was kicking it pretty hard. I was like at
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  Speaker 2: the front door and I was like, justin, I don't
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: know if I can do this, but we walked me in.
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  Speaker 2: Once I got seated and situated because I hadn't been
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: around people for a long time, that many people in years,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: and it calmed down and I calmed down, and then
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  Speaker 2: the fight started and people it wasn't like they didn't
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  Speaker 2: really bother me anymore. I was in my own little world.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I like to get a table. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to be with all of them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right up close, you're right, but your cage side.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. I try to get as close as I
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: can because I want to see it and hear in
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: an experienced now and I love it.
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  Speaker 1: What did you wish I could do it? What what
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: happened for you? When Chris Perrault knocked that guy out
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  Speaker 1: in seconds?
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  Speaker 2: I went wild. I haven't moved that fast in my knees.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: I didn't even think about my I jumped up. Oh man,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: I jumped up. I was screaming and yelling. Oh the
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: whole place went.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: Why place exploded?
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  Speaker 2: That was so fantastic, wasn't it. It was a little
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: short of a fight.
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  Speaker 1: But I keep forgetting what was that? Thirteen seconds? Seven seconds?
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  Speaker 2: I on my phone. I got it on my phone.
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  Speaker 2: I think I got it at fourteen seconds. Yeah, and
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: there was a miracle. I got it.
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  Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Becky is saying that you enough of the bullshit.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: You need to start going to the races.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, to the races, Clenn thunder Road. Why it's
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: after my bedtime?
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  Speaker 1: Come on, buddy again.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have anybody to go with.
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  Speaker 1: Becky, will go with you?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I need a ride and I don't. Here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: I think I know the layout of a thunder road
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  Speaker 2: and I might just have to walk too far to
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  Speaker 2: get to the seats.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, horseshit.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, we'll get you. I haven't been up there.
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  Speaker 1: We'll figure it out. We'll get you a wheelchair but
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: or whatever we have to do.
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  Speaker 2: If it's not too far, and it's not too far uphill,
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  Speaker 2: I just used my cane. I usually make it.
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  Speaker 1: We will get there. Are plenty of folks who have
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: the same, similar and even worse mobility issues. It's they still.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: I understand the crowds in it. I got that, man,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: But listen, this come in spring. Yeah, consider it.
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  Speaker 2: I am. I was considering it just before the Milk Bowl,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: but damn well. He took one of my buddies to
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: the fights last time, and he goes to the races
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: every week, and I kind of I was hoping I
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: might be able to hook up with him and go
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: to one of the races this year, but it didn't
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: pan out. So next year I'm going to get into it.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: Because when I lived back in New York, when I
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: was in my teen years, we used to go to
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: the races every Saturday night. Okay, up at the we
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: had a stock tart car track, dirt track, and every
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: Saturday night I was up at the races.
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  Speaker 1: Becky's saying you can sit.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: With them, okay.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: And Becky won't forget I'm telling you this coming like April. Yeah,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Becky's going to be reminding me to remind you, and
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Becky and I both will put a heap of pressure
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: on me.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, let's go. I mean it's been well.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: Call your ass out on the air.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: I went up once when we first got see again,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: here I go. When we first got here, the first
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: two years, we got into everything because they got a
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: racetrack here. I love racing, so we went to the track.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: When we first moved here, we went to the track.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: Was it Thursday night day and Sundays and yeah, And
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: I hate to keep saying this, but losing the heather
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: really fucked up my not only my life, my family
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: has been fucked up over that. But here we are.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: You know, I can't. It's it's just a major part
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: of my life. I wish I could. I'm not going
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: to ever forget it, but it has crushed my spirit.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: I used to be a really fun funny guy.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Yes, my daughter, but listen, would you agree that time
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: is the most precious in the most fragile gift that
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: we all have. Oh yeah, you don't know when your
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: last day is going to be.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: Absolutely I learned that.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: So why not spend however many years you have left
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: on this absolutely crazy fucking planet. Yeah, spend it in
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: a way that.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: Tries to bring you some joy while I'm trying to
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: do that more.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: Now, where you can rediscover things that make you.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: Happy, right, Yeah, I am trying to do that now.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: Particularly that is possible. Bro.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: Well, it's hard work, it ok it's hard.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine being in your shoes. Okay, So i
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: can sit here and preach all day, but I'm not
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: in your shoes. I have not experienced what you've experienced.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, see, I think what happened, or part of
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: what's happened, is that, you know, I wasn't really well
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: established here in Vermont when in the accident occurred, so
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: we didn't really know a lot of people. And then
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: after that I virtually got to meet nobody. People. You know,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: they tend to shy away from you when you suffered
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: that kind of tragedy. Sure, so it's I lost track
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: with people and went inward to myself, and when with
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: Kathy Gowing and all the problems the kids have had
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: because of this ship. The last twenty years have just
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: been a total fucking disaster. And I haven't gone out.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: I haven't. I've lost interest in everything. I don't But
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: I think I've come to the point where I'm naw,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: my body's crapping out on me. I want to get
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: back out and start doing stuff again. I do want
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: to have fun. I want to enjoy the rest of
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: my life, you know.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: I here you go.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's things that I can do. But like
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: I say, my point, I guess is that the support
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: is what's necessary. People that can go through this if
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: they have somebody. I mean, I live alone sixteen years, man,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: I don't have people to bounce stuff off of. I
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: don't have anybody. Hey, what do you want to do today?
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: Go out to dinner? You want to go to the park,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: you want to go up to the mountains? I don't,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: I go. What do you want to do today? Not
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: really much, man, smog a joint.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: I just there's there's some people. I'm just glancing through
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: the names of some of the people that are listening
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: right now, and all of them, all of them, with
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: the exception of one that I don't know that. Well,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: have been through a whole heap of ship in their lives,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: isn't it different from yours? But still commonality. Heap of ship. Yeah, hardship, despair, discouragement, depression, Yeah,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: physical stuff, mental stuff. The list goes on. There is
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: a factor of relatability. Yeah, between listeners have aired out
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: and you sitting on that couch right now.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: Not good?
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: Know that? Good know that.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: Appreciate knowing that it is. It feels alone A lot
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: of the time. I feel all alone. Well, I used
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: to have people that I could bounce shit off of.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: My elders, been all my elders are gone.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: You connecting with me every single day, for me, it's
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: a blessing. I appreciate that every morning for years, your
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: name pops up as one of the first listeners on.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: And no matter who it is that I've got in here,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: and no matter what we're talking about, even shit that
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: you disagree with, you still you still are locked in.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: And you are beyond just a member of the audience here. No,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: you're you've You've become something a lot more than that, buddy,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: as many have. Yeah, I still haven't even met Becky,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: but that's going to happen someday and and fran scene,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: what a lovely lady. Mary. I don't think i've I've
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: met her yet. Maybe I have. I don't know. I'm
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: getting old myself, but but it has said. Listen, man,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: you are a great gift to me. I am again,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: I'm so blessed that I get to start my day
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: with not only you, but everyone else. And I have
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: my off days, I have my on days and everything
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: in between. But man, Glenn, you're still, like Francine says,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: getting up every day is a beautiful blessing. You still
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: have time. You still have an opportunity in front of
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: you every single day, seven days a week, to start
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: something fresh, start something new. And there's a lot of
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: people that are right here in your backyard. You live
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: right here in Barry City, right here in your backyard,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: who can relate to what you're saying and relate to
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: carrying weight mentally every day. There's a lot of people. Man.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying it like it.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: Is bro a strange world.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: And one of these days I'm going to get you
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: and Big Kenny in here, and I might have to
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: I might have to put something in my orange juice
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: that morning to get me through that episode. But I
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: think we should do it.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: I think we should do it.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: Tired retired cop meets retired outlaw holy ship on a shingle.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: But I'm a nice guy, and I know Kenny's a
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: nice guy. I know that, I know, I know it
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: should be fun. I mean, now, it's just so weird.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: Uh. Becky says we need an aired out get together.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: What Becky doesn't realize. I don't think you do either.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: And because I haven't talked about this on the air,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: and I probably won't anymore than I am right now. Yeah,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: but that is actually going to happen. Oh boy, sooner
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: than later. We gotta we got a cold, long winter
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: ahead of us.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know each other.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: We're all going to meet each other. Trust me, it's happen.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: It's it's gonna happen. I guarantee it.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: That's how most of my friends are. I have one
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: hundreds or two hundred friends on Facebook. I don't really
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: know who they are. I just know them.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: It's going to happen. Becky says, nice, meaning you. Mary
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: says the same. The list goes on. Taylor says, loved
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: hearing your story. Glenn. Remember you're never as alone as
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: you think you are. There's always a way through.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: Amen. I don't say that often.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in here, brother, I love it mostly.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: Thanks for being my.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: Friend me too. I love you.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: I love you too, buddy y