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MINI SCROLL: Emily Gwen lesbian flag & donations accusations, Halsey vs. Tumblr + Club Chalamet claps back at fan · Mini Scroll

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  Welcome back to Mini Scroll, everyone.
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  All right, the first story that I have for you guys today, we're
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  going right in because this story came to me from actually
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  one of you guys in our discourse.
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  So one of our Patreon members, Megan, sent it to us in our
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  discord and she was like there is some serious stuff going down
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  right now. Allegedly the creator of the
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  lesbian pride flag has been scheming and scamming and she's
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  actually Australian. So it's a bit of a niche
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  Australian story and this is a big one so we need to get
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  straight into it. But before I do, Please remember
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  All right, I have tried to compile all of the information
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  for you guys, but if I have missed something in this first
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  story and you guys know that I've missed it, feel free to
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  comment and let us all know. I do need to preface that this
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  is all very speculative. It's not confirmed, it's not
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  unconfirmed, it's all alleged, OK?
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  It's just what people are putting together and speculating
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  has been happening with this person over the past eight
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  years. So Emily Gwen, the
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  self-proclaimed creator of the lesbian flag, is being exposed
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  online for allegedly lying over the past eight years for
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  financial gain. She's been accused of scamming
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  people out of around half $1,000,000 and showing up online
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  across multiple profiles on different platforms.
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  So Emily reportedly came under fire in February after claiming
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  she skips the sex scenes and heated rivalry basically because
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  she finds them icky. This angered the Internet,
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  obviously, and it sparked this Internet investigation into her
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  online behavior over the past eight years, which has resulted
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  in her basically being quote UN quote exposed.
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  I will say the main people involved in putting all this
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  information together, it seems like they have been questioning
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  Emily for a long time. So it's come to a head in
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  February and this 27 page public Google Doc has been put together
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  and I think it was mostly put together in February, but in
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  general, people have been questioning her and her stories
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  and her ethics for a long time. So yes, the main resource that I
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  used to put this story together was this 27 page public Google
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  Doc. So I'm going to break this down
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  based on the controversies because that's how the Google
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  Doc presents everything. So the first controversy is the
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  flag. So the findings argue that Emily
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  didn't actually create the popular sunset lesbian flag.
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  A Tumblr user named at Shapeshifter of Constellation
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  posted an almost identical flag in 2017, a full year before
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  Emily's 2018 post. The Google Doc even includes A
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  hex color code comparison, which shows Emily's flag matches shape
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  shifters colors exactly to the digit.
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  Internet users also claim that Emily has never credited at
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  Butch Space, who created the Butch lesbian flag that was
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  foundational to the entire design.
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  So essentially people feeling like she's been taking credit
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  for something that she didn't actually create.
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  Now controversy #2 is people believe she has been committing
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  donation fraud. So from 2019 to 2025, Emily ran
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  recurring viral donation campaigns using the hook.
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  The lesbian who designed the flag is homeless and needs Your
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  Help, which routinely racked up 100,000 plus likes, millions of
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  views, and the Google Doc estimates that she has received
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  potentially $520,000 over a total of eight years.
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  This is based on Coffee's public donor count of 17,000. 314
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  donations averaged at a conservative $5 each.
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  So coffee, for anyone that doesn't know is like an audience
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  donation platform. It's similar to Buy Me a Coffee
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  but it's KO dash. FII think it's pronounced
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  coffee. I'm pretty sure it's pronounced
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  coffee. So part of what has made people
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  suss on this donation situation is they feel like Emily has a
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  lack of transparency around what she's using the donations for
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  and how much she has received over the years.
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  So she reportedly has refused to ever publicly disclose her
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  totals received. And when she promised to use
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  Coffee's goals feature to be more transparent so she can set
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  like a $50,000 goal, a $100,000 goal, whatever, she allegedly
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  simply reset or raised the goal every time it was close to being
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  met. And then controversy #3 is that
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  Emily is also apparently a woman named Julia who she has claimed
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  to be friends with for several years.
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  So this has seemingly broken a lot of things open, but the
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  Google Doc presents evidence that Emily Glenn and at poetry
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  lesbian on Tumblr who is a woman named Julia are the same person.
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  So the alleged story between Emily and Julia was that Emily
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  had always claimed Julia was a close friend.
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  And because Emily's father was abusive and might track her
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  down, the story was that Emily's donations and different things
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  that she was raising money for would go into a PayPal account
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  that was actually Julia's. And Julia had said publicly
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  online at one point that the reason why she set it up like
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  that is because she didn't really use PayPal very much.
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  She had this PayPal account that was kind of sitting there.
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  Basically, Emily needed another way to get donations or get
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  money, and so she was using Julia's.
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  So because of this, they shared the same PayPal, they shared the
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  same shipping address, they shared the same phone number,
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  same birthday and apparently even the same city.
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  Brisbane. And in the Google doc they also
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  compare their writing styles and say that it's very similar.
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  So Juliano's own Tumblr post describe a comfortable, well off
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  lifestyle. Apparently her dad pays her
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  rent, her mother owns a townhouse.
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  So that comparison has LED a lot of their fans to question why
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  Julia would not be helping Emily, and why Emily would
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  constantly need to ask her followers for donations.
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  And of course, the big kind of point here is that she's asking
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  mostly queer people to donate to her, so a lot of people feel
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  like she's exploiting her own community for her own financial
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  and personal gain. The document also knows that
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  Julia had multiple alternative Tumblr accounts from 27, 19 to
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  2018, which also appeared to be running similar donation
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  schemes. So those are like the three kind
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  of main quote UN quote scams that this document goes through.
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  I'm going to read an excerpt from this actual Google doc as
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  the conclusion quote. Overall, there are ample
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  evidence that Emily Gwen is untrustworthy since she has
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  repeatedly lied and obfuscated the truth over the past eight
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  years for financial gains, which is estimated to be $130,000.
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  The $130,000 is just since 2024, so the total number is what I
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  said before, which was I believe $520,000 they're estimating.
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  OK, it continues. These evidence include but not
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  limited to repeatedly raising Coffee Gold campaign every time
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  it almost reached completion, insisting on how she's the
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  creator of the lesbian flag despite not even being the first
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  one to create it. Then leveraging this identity to
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  manipulate people into giving her money.
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  Actively avoids showing the total amount of money she's
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  received over the years in an attempt to hide how much money
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  she's been making from online donation posts in the past.
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  People have dismissed these instances as just pure
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  misinformation and hate campaigns.
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  Therefore, as stated in the beginning, these evidence are
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  laid out in a doc format like this to help everyone get a
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  clearer picture of why Emily Gwen has gotten so much infamy
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  over the years and hopefully help people avoid falling for
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  her post further in the future. If your main take away from this
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  document is that you should harass anyone here, including
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  but not limited to Emily Gwen, that's not the point.
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  Do not harass this person. It's expected that people would
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  feel hurt and want to air other grievances after a massive
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  betrayal, but bullying people won't solve any issues.
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  My biggest recommendation is to tell people to stop donating to
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  at the Emily Glenn or poetry lesbian.
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  OK, so this document does go into Emily's background a little
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  bit and her social media, but I wanted to get some more
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  information. You know, I didn't want to just
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  like report on this story straight from this document,
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  although I do believe several people have been contributing to
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  it at this point. But I wanted to read this
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  comment on Reddit from Sea Irvine because I think it gives
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  us a bit more of a background on Emily.
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  So they wrote, OK, so this is all been going on for a decade
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  now. Years and years ago, the lesbian
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  community, first on Lesbook, which is the lesbian community
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  on Facebook and then on Tumblr, grew tired of the only flag that
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  can really be seen as representative of lesbians being
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  the lipstick lesbian flag. Eventually this gave way in
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  20/26/2027 to a bunch of lesbians creating a bunch of
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  flags out of possibilities. Emily Gwen's is the flag that
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  got the most critical mass. I'm saying this as a lesbian who
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  was there that there were many other similar flags that weren't
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  the one that people are accusing her of ripping off because
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  people had been brainstorming other flags for years before it
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  hit Tumblr. Because there were many other
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  similar flags, some people had issues with her claiming herself
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  as the creator of the lesbian flag that is now in current use.
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  Some people had some issues with some other inter community
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  discourse that I frankly never cared about and didn't pay
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  attention to. At times this ruined to
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  accusations of her lying about being homeless considering the
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  frequency of her donation post, which were always easily
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  explained by the fact this was on Tumblr where a bunch of
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  teenagers with no real life experience with poverty thought
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  they could play hero around the flag gaining popularity.
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  Emily Gwen began asking for donations.
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  First because she was attempting to leave an abusive household,
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  then because she was homeless. Emily Gwen has been upfront that
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  Emily Gwen isn't her legal name or even the one she uses in her
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  personal life. Julia is a Tumblr user who was
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  supposedly well off that Emily Gwen befriended, who supposedly
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  let Emily use her PayPal account to access coffee donations.
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  They live in the same city, but it never been person according
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  to Julia's Tumblr. As to why the accusations
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  against Emily Gwen being a fraud have started up again, a bunch
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  of people got upset that she made a post saying something
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  along the lines of why watch Heated Rivalry if you're
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  skipping the sex scenes. And decided to go on a deep dive
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  through her post history and that of Julia's.
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  Including trying to access their PayPal and coffee accounts.
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  Leading to the information that their phone numbers end in the
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  same 2 digits and that Emily's packages were being sent to
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  Julia's house. Leading to the specific
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  accusation of them being the same person this person ends
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  with. But I've come to the point where
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  I hope she has been scamming people because if she isn't,
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  then Twitter decided to cyberstalk and harass a homeless
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  lesbian who was already in danger from an abusive family
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  with stalkers tendencies over show sex scene discourse.
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  And I feel like that actually just ties it up in a bow there.
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  That is a very high level recap of what's going on with Emily,
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  Gwen and the accusations that she didn't actually create the
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  lesbian flag that she has been scamming people for money
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  donations over the years. If you guys want to dive into
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  this document, I will link it in the show notes down below so you
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  can look at it yourself. But again, all of this is
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  completely speculative. This is just what people are
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  saying. All right, the next story that I
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  have for you guys today is Tumblr is feuding with Halsey
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  over its birthday post. So Tumblr had his 19th birthday
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  in February, and it's celebrated with a nostalgic roundup of
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  iconic moments, iconic memes, aesthetics, and celebrities that
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  have defined the platform. And they posted this on X.
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  Halsey was noticeably missing from this roundup, though.
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  Tumblr existed for several years before Halsey came along.
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  Her 2015 album Badlands played a huge role in cementing Tumblr's
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  neo grunge vibe, and she was so influential on the platform that
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  a 2015 interview with Vice called her the new queen of the
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  Tumblr generation. This is directly from that
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  article quote. Her official website is still
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  hosted on Tumblr, where she's putting years of groundwork
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  building a massive online fanbase with people who felt a
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  kindred connection with her long before she got picked up by
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  Astral Works. OK, so she was very influential
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  to Tumblr and I'm sure brought them thousands, if not possibly
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  millions of users to their platform.
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  So Halsey responded to Tumblr's celebratory post writing.
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  I keep your lights on for years and this is the thanks I get.
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  And then Tumblr responded with what can only be described as
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  kind of a classical like Instagram Notes app apology,
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  acknowledging that Halsey has indeed been foundational to
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  their platform and promised it would never happen again.
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  They wrote. Halsey, we are deeply sorry you
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  were not included in our 19th birthday edit.
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  You are and have forever been a pillar of our platform and yes,
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  for lack of a better words, keeping our lights on for years.
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  We would never, as you once put it, intentionally swerve you.
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  At just 19, we're still learning and growing.
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  We promise that this will never happen again.
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  We hope you can find it in your heart to forgive us.
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  And then they also made a second part to this edit, which just
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  included clips of Halsey. All right.
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  And the last story that I have for you guys today is we have a
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  Club Chalamet update for you. You guys know Club Chalamet.
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  She actually keeps our lights on here at Centennial World.
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  So Club Chalamet has found herself at the center of online
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  discourse after Clap looking back at a follower.
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  This all started when an ex user named Michael Roberts shared a
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  post insinuating that Club Chalamet, whose real name is
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  Simone Kromer, is no longer as invested in Timothy as she once
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  was, he wrote. Quote I cannot believe we're two
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  weeks out from Timothy's best chance at an Oscar and Club
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  Chalamet has completely taken her eye off the ball.
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  This is a nightmare post for Club Chalamet.
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  So she was quick to clap back. She quoted the tweet saying that
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  Robert has not been paying attention because she's been
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  posting quite frequently on sub stack.
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  This is what her response said. Quote, you obviously haven't
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  been paying attention. I put foot to ass in this fandom
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  and only get grief. I'm either stalking or too quiet
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  or not devoted enough. If you're a paying subscriber to
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  my sub stack, you would know exactly what's going on.
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  If you paid attention to my IG post in the past couple of
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  weeks, you would know exactly what's going on.
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  I haven't taken my eye off the ball and I haven't dropped shit.
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  Unlike a lot of people. I can focus on multiple things
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  at once and have multiple interests.
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  I'm condo shopping in Palm Springs.
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  I'm doing an audit at my job. I'm planning 4 trips to
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  Michigan, Vegas, Paris, and Toronto for the next seven
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  months. And you think I'm not doing
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  enough as Club Chalamet? Stay in your lane or pay $6 a
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  month to read my Club Chalamet sub stack.
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  I'm done with this shitty app and the cruel people who have
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  made my enjoyment in this fandom incredibly difficult in the past
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  year. Mic drop Iconic yelling at him
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  to pay $6 a month. Pay me bitch if this is the
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  content that you want or shut your mouth is so funny.
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  Also, I do need to say, I think sometimes when I talk about how
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  much I love Club Chalamet, some people don't realize that I also
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  recognize how problematic she is.
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  You know, she has literally harassed and said some of the
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  meanest things ever about the people that she's a fan of, like
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  the people in their lives. And it started with Michael
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  Fassbender, as we know. Fascinating Fassbender.
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  Like, she was horrible to the people in his life.
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  I think she's actually kind of chilled out a little bit over
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  the past few years. But yeah, in general, her vibe
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  has not been great. So I do want to make that clear.
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  I know that. But at this point, she's become
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  an iconic pop culture figure, like in her own right.
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  I love how she's like, you have no idea how hard I work.
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  You have no idea what I have going on.
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  I'm planning all these trips. I'm trying to buy a condo in
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  Palm Springs. Like, good for you, Queen.
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  Like honestly, how can you afford all of this?
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  I hope that your fan pages are making you a lot of money.
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  I mean I know she has a real job but love this for her.
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  OK so this interaction has since been posted on the FOMO
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  subreddit and tons of people are talking about her response.
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  Many users seem to be shocked that people are paying for
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  Simone's substack, as well as discussing how much fandom has
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  changed over the years, so much so that fans are paying for
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  content by other fans. Meanwhile, other users are
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  saying that they're just so fascinated by her and that is
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  incredibly relatable. I would love to know the
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  percentage of people that are paying for Simone sub stack that
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  are paying for it genuinely because they're also fans of
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  Timothy Chalamet or who are paying for because they're
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  actually fans of Simone. Like that is a split that I want
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  to know. Anyways, guys, that's it for
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