Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Digital Health + Health IT / Christopher A. Longhurst, MD, MS - Chief Medical Officer & Chief Digital Officer, Associate Dean & Clinical Professor at UC San Diego Health
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- 0:00This is Laura Diet with the Becker healthcare
- 0:02podcast, I'm thrilled today to be joined by
- 0:04Doctor. Christopher Long chief Medical Ops. Or Chief
- 0:07Digital Officer an associate Dean as well as
- 0:09clinical professor at Uc San Diego Health. Doctor.
- 0:12Long hers is a pleasure to have you
- 0:13on the podcast today.
- 0:15Sir Oh, thank you so much for having
- 0:17me.
- 0:18Now I'm really looking forward to our discussion.
- 0:20I know there's a lot happening at Uc
- 0:21San Diego Hal having to do with technology,
- 0:24Ai, and really some revolutionary things on the
- 0:27clinical care side. But before we dive into
- 0:29that discussion, can talk a little bit more
- 0:31about yourself and your background?
- 0:33Sure.
- 0:34I've been involved in healthcare administration leadership for
- 0:37about 20 years. I finished my pediatric training
- 0:41Packard Children's Hospital at Stanford. And joined what
- 0:44I thought was going to be a 2
- 0:45year project to implement electronic health record at
- 0:48and, of course, that turned into a much
- 0:50longer and more involved project. It was a
- 0:53lot of fun because I had a background
- 0:55that helped perfectly prepare me. Which is I
- 0:58had taken time off during medical school to
- 1:00do a master's degree in healthcare care informatics.
- 1:03And so after implementation of the electronic health
- 1:05record there, we found some really important outcomes
- 1:08associated with reduction mortality
- 1:11when we implemented our physician order entry and
- 1:14I subsequently
- 1:15ended up as the Chief Medical Information Officer
- 1:18founded a fellowship program and clinical informatics at
- 1:21Stanford.
- 1:22I spent 15 years there
- 1:25in total before I came down here at
- 1:26Uc San Diego about 9 years ago. And
- 1:30Initially came down to Uc San Diego to
- 1:32serve as the Cio for the health system
- 1:34and the professional schools, including the school of
- 1:36Medicine
- 1:38But after a few years, I stepped into
- 1:39an additional role as the associate Chief Medical
- 1:42Officer hoping to lead our quality and safety
- 1:45in partnership with Our. Quality and patient safety
- 1:48officer.
- 1:49We learned a lot in that, particularly around
- 1:52our public data reporting and local quality improvement
- 1:55initiatives, with And I continue to chair the
- 1:57quality council to this day, which has been
- 1:59a really gratifying part of my role,
- 2:02ultimately
- 2:03ended up in the Chief Medical Officer role
- 2:06and
- 2:07been
- 2:08continuing to help lead enterprise initiatives and we're
- 2:12now expanding as we acquire new hospitals and
- 2:14affiliate with others
- 2:16and
- 2:17have actually just hired
- 2:18Chief Medical Officer for Hill crest La jolla,
- 2:21as well as for our East campus, which
- 2:23used to be the Prime auto hospital.
- 2:26And so it's been a lot of fun
- 2:27to experience period of huge clinical growth under
- 2:31the leadership of our Ceo, Patty Mason.
- 2:35That's great to hear. And you know, really
- 2:37exciting to think about how technology has evolved
- 2:39in the health space from coming in to
- 2:42help implement a Ehr system to then completely
- 2:45leading a, you know, a It digital initiatives,
- 2:48it is really a cool career trajectory, from
- 2:51your perspective, what are some of the biggest
- 2:52issues that you're following in health care for
- 2:5420 24?
- 2:58Sure. There's a lot going on in health.
- 3:00And
- 3:02like, any large portion of the economy, I
- 3:04think it starts with finance.
- 3:06That we've seen things like Medicare advantage
- 3:10plans going belly up,
- 3:12our colleagues
- 3:14at Scripps health
- 3:16recently
- 3:17discontinued
- 3:18support of their Medicare Advantage plan. We've seen
- 3:21a bunch more patients
- 3:23And these are older sicker patients that are
- 3:25really hard to manage from a risk standpoint.
- 3:28And so
- 3:30these type of financial questions are particularly difficult.
- 3:33In the setting of the much larger trends.
- 3:35So
- 3:36we've seen, of course, inflation affecting supply cost
- 3:39by 10 percent to 12 percent particularly here
- 3:41in California,
- 3:43We have strong labor presence and we've seen
- 3:46labor costs increased 10 percent to 15 percent
- 3:49and of course all the while.
- 3:51Our reimbursement is not going up 10 or
- 3:5415 percent.
- 3:56It might be going up 2 or 3
- 3:57percent or 4 percent and that's only for
- 4:00the commercially insured patients, you know, we still
- 4:02have
- 4:03pretty fixed reimbursement in our government plans. And
- 4:06so taken all together,
- 4:08it's a really challenging time from a financial
- 4:10standpoint and forces us all to really focus
- 4:13on value and what investments we're making that
- 4:16most directly benefit the patients that we serve.
- 4:20That's such a great point. And know interesting
- 4:22they bring up some of the different health
- 4:23plans in the landscape of working with payers
- 4:27as well as
- 4:28thinking through how patients were able to access
- 4:30and afford care, and then bringing that into
- 4:32the broader strategy of
- 4:34how you're caring for patients and thinking about
- 4:36those patient populations. So, it's really interesting to
- 4:39hear from your perspective and when taking that
- 4:42into consideration and and looking ahead, what are
- 4:44you most excited about for the future and
- 4:46what makes you nervous?
- 4:50Well, I am extraordinarily excited about the digital
- 4:54transformation of health
- 4:55and not just Ai, but that's certainly the
- 4:57latest in a suite of tools.
- 5:00For example, in our managed population, we run
- 5:04a large Medicare shared savings plan accountable care
- 5:07organization. And we started in that population doing
- 5:09remote patient monitoring
- 5:11and actually have over 3000 patients now. With
- 5:15devices at home, transmitting blood pressure and glucose
- 5:19ratings and our patients with diabetes
- 5:21and
- 5:22those type of
- 5:24remote patient digital kind of tools.
- 5:26And that's allowed us to better manage population.
- 5:28We actually have data showing a reduction
- 5:31blood pressure in our hypertensive patients, a reduction
- 5:34hemoglobin A1c of our patients with diabetes.
- 5:37And the kind of care
- 5:40allows us to not only drive better outcomes
- 5:42and reduce hospital emissions, but also save cost
- 5:45to system overall and keep people healthy, keep
- 5:47people out of the hospital So that's really
- 5:49exciting from my standpoint because it's not something
- 5:51it would have been possible 10 or 20
- 5:53years ago.
- 5:54On top of that, you layer in some
- 5:56of these new Ai tools such as large
- 5:59language models
- 6:00or even just traditional machine learning. And we're
- 6:03finding all sorts of
- 6:04outstanding outcomes in the clinical side we found
- 6:07earlier detection of Sepsis resulting in 20 percent
- 6:10drop of mortality in our emergency department patients
- 6:13with Sepsis, which is
- 6:15really, really huge.
- 6:17And
- 6:18translates to 50 lives saves on annual basis
- 6:20just here at Uc San Diego.
- 6:22Imagine if that, you know, translated across the
- 6:25300000
- 6:26lives lost every year across America.
- 6:29Similarly, we've leveraged large language models for things
- 6:32like Ai generated draft messages to respond to
- 6:36patients on the portal. And we found that
- 6:38that decreases is cognitive burden decreases physician burnout
- 6:42and results in increased satisfaction.
- 6:44So lots of promising opportunities, and that's just
- 6:47on the clinical side. Think about the business
- 6:49side and there's certainly huge opportunities to help
- 6:53make our revenue cycle more efficient so that
- 6:55as we
- 6:57acquire and affiliate with new hospitals, we can
- 6:59expand our services
- 7:01without having to, you know, add as many
- 7:04people as we would otherwise.
- 7:06And that efficiency also translates to better employee
- 7:09satisfaction.
- 7:11You know, we know that some of the
- 7:13wrote tasks that can be done by Ai
- 7:16you know, when we automate that that makes
- 7:18our employees happier as well. So that that
- 7:20leads to increased retention, increased
- 7:24satisfaction at work and
- 7:26overall sort of better healthcare care experience.
- 7:29That's been fantastic to hear. And you know,
- 7:31especially thinking about Ai in artificial intelligence,
- 7:35in in some of the ways that as
- 7:36you said, you can really help people have
- 7:39a better work experience.
- 7:40And at the same time, you know, help
- 7:43become more efficient overall, I think that's really
- 7:45cool and beneficial.
- 7:47I I know, looking ahead to... Do you
- 7:49see that will make health leaders more effective
- 7:52and successful over the next 2 to 3
- 7:54years? What do they need to know, especially
- 7:56given the,
- 7:57evolving health landscape and in tools that are
- 8:00gonna become available to them?
- 8:02That's a great question.
- 8:04I think the skills from a leadership standpoint
- 8:08don't change much over time. And building a
- 8:11high functioning teams, teams that are
- 8:13diverse and work well together, I think as
- 8:16a skill that will continue to be important
- 8:19I I think that as Ai begins to
- 8:21really creep into every corner of health care
- 8:23delivery, having a superficial understanding of how these
- 8:26tools work.
- 8:28Is actually important for some of our executive
- 8:30leaders.
- 8:31And I recently wrote an opinion with Dr.
- 8:33Bob Walked and others about by the role
- 8:36of the Chief Health Ai officer,
- 8:38and we're fortunate to recruit. Doctor Car duke
- 8:41Singh that serve as our Chief Health Ai
- 8:43officer,
- 8:44here at Uc San Diego Health. And I
- 8:46think it's just a fantastic and important role
- 8:48in moving forward to
- 8:50identify where the opportunities are to leverage these
- 8:53tools to drive the, clinical and business outcomes
- 8:56that matter to our patients and to the
- 8:59organization. And so that's 1 area that I
- 9:02think investment is really needed. And
- 9:05the thing that makes me nervous is not
- 9:07about sort of bad tools it's about tools
- 9:09that are poorly implemented with And so having
- 9:12those local Ai governance and review processes, I
- 9:14think are gonna be really, really important to
- 9:17making sure that we drive the outcomes we
- 9:19want and do not...
- 9:21Inadvertently introduce unintended consequences.
- 9:24That's touch a great point. Do you bring
- 9:26up especially on the governance side. I know
- 9:28things are changing quickly? So for health systems
- 9:31that are really at their front stages of
- 9:33of trying to implement Ai or figure out
- 9:35what their strategy is. Where do you start?
- 9:37What is most important for health organizations to
- 9:40tackle so that they're not putting themselves to
- 9:42undue risk as they're taking on and,
- 9:44try and to implement new Ai technologies.
- 9:48Yes, our local governance has been really helpful
- 9:50in thinking through that. So for example, some
- 9:52of our early
- 9:53opportunities
- 9:54were around
- 9:56a low risk kind of areas
- 9:58in the business that would not impact kind
- 10:00of clinical care. And so we were looking
- 10:03in cycle operations and other areas
- 10:05even when we again
- 10:07introducing clinical Ai,
- 10:09we
- 10:10ensure that our governance processes and principles like
- 10:13keeping a human in the loop for accountability
- 10:15we're adhere to, and that helps to really
- 10:18mitigate potential risk. So that local governance, local
- 10:22Ai principles, you, driving,
- 10:24the problems is that should be solved. I
- 10:26think is really key.
- 10:30Fantastic. Doctor. Wagner. Thank you so much for
- 10:32joining the podcast today. This has been a
- 10:33really amazing discussion. And I look forward to
- 10:35connecting with you again soon.
- 10:37Absolutely. Thanks for having me, Laura.