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'Humans Are Performers' w/ Darren McGarvey & Becci Wallace · You Call That Radio?

• 0:00
  Speaker A: 1, 2, 1, 2. Yo. This is Charlie Tuna from Jurassic 5 live and direct here in Glasgow, Scotland. And you call that radio. Straight into it. Well, if you call that radio tv. Unless you listen to the podcast and it's just. You call that radio. I do podcast. Live with Darren McGarvey. Becky Wall.
• 0:26
  Speaker B: Hi.
• 0:26
  Speaker A: Hi. Is it Darren and Becky? Is that the right way to do it? Or is it Becky and Darren?
• 0:32
  Speaker B: I wrote it. So it's Darren and Becky today.
• 0:36
  Speaker C: How is it even put my own name in there, Mark. A knee and appendage hanging about the back somewhere.
• 0:45
  Speaker B: This is the visual.
• 0:47
  Speaker A: Why is it that when you've got two names, we somehow naturally know what names comes first? And it's obviously not a bit important. It's about language.
• 0:58
  Speaker B: That's actually a good question. I think if you ask my friends, it's Becky and Darn. And if you ask his friends, it's done. And Becky.
• 1:04
  Speaker A: All right. Okay. I thought it was always a style to it. Well, anyway, that was just a wee theory to get things going. I feel we. But unprepared. I mean, how are you doing? Are you all right?
• 1:16
  Speaker B: We're great.
• 1:17
  Speaker C: We're great. We're just usual in the house, trying to get children to eat something other than tomato. Tinned tomato soup. It's just a constant struggle, mate. Do you know what I mean?
• 1:29
  Speaker B: I'm the one who's eating that.
• 1:32
  Speaker A: It's ten. Tomato soup. No bad.
• 1:34
  Speaker B: It's one. Five a day.
• 1:36
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 1:37
  Speaker C: Also five of your. Five a day on the sugar scale.
• 1:42
  Speaker B: We did actually have some lovely tacos. Chicken tacos.
• 1:48
  Speaker A: Did you. Did you put lime in your tacos?
• 1:51
  Speaker B: I did, yeah, of course.
• 1:54
  Speaker A: Keeping it Mexican. So a bit of a bad day. So I'm really prepared, then. I've got. I'm just. You've got a tour. You're both on tour.
• 2:06
  Speaker B: We are indeed. Darren, how's your tour going?
• 2:10
  Speaker C: It's going really well.
• 2:15
  Speaker A: You know. You're going to give me mayor. You're going to give me mayor.
• 2:17
  Speaker B: He's forgot how to do the telly.
• 2:20
  Speaker A: Ask you what I'm doing. Ask you what I'm doing.
• 2:22
  Speaker B: Mark, how are you?
• 2:24
  Speaker A: I. If you'd asked me. If you'd asked me a week ago, I was a bit stressed. If you'd asked me three days ago, I was ill. If you'd asked me yesterday, I would have said I'm absolutely brilliant and I think everything's going to be okay.
• 2:40
  Speaker B: And how are you today?
• 2:42
  Speaker A: No comment. Don't ask me that again.
• 2:48
  Speaker B: How dare you. Conversation.
• 2:52
  Speaker A: Well, well, do you know what? I think a good place to start is? Because obviously, Becky, Becky, you're on tour and, like, there is what could go wrong in the music industry. There's. It's really hard. No matter how much planning you do, something will happen that is unavoidable. You plan things out. You think. I'm an overthinker, so I think of everything that could go wrong. Too much, probably.
• 3:16
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 3:17
  Speaker A: But I never in my way with his dreams. Thought we'd have to postpone your show because there was a cycling festival and nobody could enter the venue.
• 3:28
  Speaker B: I don't want to rile up the cycling audience, but seemingly it was unwise of us not to know this, but there we are. Who knew cycling. Cyclists were pretty mad that we didn't know that, that we didn't know about their big event, the Gravel Cycling Tour, the Gravel
• 3:48
  Speaker A: Pit.
• 3:48
  Speaker B: I didn't know about it. So, yeah, that was. That was the. That's. Every day of the tour has had an interesting story. That one is. Was up there, definitely. So.
• 3:59
  Speaker A: But the good news is that it got postponed, but it's now got a new date for the people of New Galloway or the surrounding Dumfries and Galloway area.
• 4:09
  Speaker B: It's going to be beautiful. Yeah, it's been. I mean, the thing is just getting the pleasure. Enjoy and playing with the band and. And actually doing a tour. Like everyone always says to me about tours, you know, we. Carla's always telling me how tough it is, and it is tough. It's tough to get people through the door and it's. It's a tough slug, but it is a lot of fun, you know what I mean? Like, it is fun just going about and getting to play with a band and actually having that. That sound and bringing that sound to places. And it's been dead well received. So it just is what it is, man. Looking forward to doing New Galloway. We're doing Cat strand on the 18th. If you see us kind of doing this, we're trying to get our daughter not to.
• 4:47
  Speaker C: She's slapping us.
• 4:48
  Speaker B: She's trying to make noise because she wants to be on this.
• 4:50
  Speaker C: She's going to be doing a tour of household chores.
• 4:53
  Speaker B: She'll be doing a studio bedroom and she's cleaning up. That's it. So I.
• 4:58
  Speaker A: Sponsored by Heinz Tomato.
• 5:01
  Speaker B: So the Galloway one was weird, man. But what was weird was when I put the post up, which, like, there was a bunch of cyclists that were like, how dare. How dare you guys not know about our event, which I thought was funny.
• 5:17
  Speaker A: Apparently they had when, when we investigated it further. There was a sign on a bridge Galloway to tell.
• 5:27
  Speaker B: But not like a sign, like a national sign sign. Like a bit of paper with some
• 5:32
  Speaker A: words on it, a big banner. We guitar. You know band bands are banned or whatever. No bands for two days. So it's so. So that's good though. So it's been moved here Thursday night, the 18th of June and. But in another sort of. It's not good news because obviously it's bad for the people who knew Galloway.
• 5:53
  Speaker B: But closed.
• 5:55
  Speaker A: The pubs are closed.
• 5:56
  Speaker B: Just the last pub shop, new gallery has now shut. So Cat Strand where we are playing is now the local pub as well. So it's opening like as a bar day. We'll be down there to provide the tune. So it'll probably be a great video I imagine or evening. And Johnny Slater will still be doing his set as well. So he's. He's supporting so he'll be doing a reopening set too. So it should be a great laugh and the only pub in New Galloway. So you know, what's not to like about that? Come on down.
• 6:26
  Speaker A: Yeah, there's nothing not to like unless you're the pub that shut down. Shout outs to the public shut down.
• 6:30
  Speaker B: I hope these are all okay down there.
• 6:33
  Speaker A: Yeah, actually I stayed in a caravan in that way from. For about a week last year that it's kind of what made me want to go a bit more rural. That was a bit too rural. That was like a two hour walk to. To New Galloway.
• 6:47
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 6:48
  Speaker A: And that's the nearest shop so that's a wee bit too.
• 6:52
  Speaker B: We played at the Galloway Arms Hotel last year with Song Seeds and it was brilliant. Like it was really, really good. Same vibes as I think what we'll probably be getting in a couple of weeks. You know, local, very local. Very, very interesting.
• 7:06
  Speaker A: And you wisely avoided the. The World Cup. I would like to ask you both what you said. What is a making of the Scotland collectively losing its mind and making I suppose what we could describe as songs
• 7:22
  Speaker C: main songs as that was being gone on. I am. I've been busy writing essays, man. I'm in a. I'm in a world of male masculinity, toxic masculinity, patriarchy, guys performing in the street. So I've not been following.
• 7:41
  Speaker A: Are you for it or against it? Are you. Are you pro toxic masculinity or anti toxic masculine?
• 7:46
  Speaker C: I'm antitox masculinity. But I think that for a lot of men it would be unwise to complete absolutely down all toxic tools. Given the fact that situations really would be quite handy and that's the predicament.
• 8:01
  Speaker B: Toxic tools. Toxic traits. Toxic traits. I think the football songs are a great example of our blind hope.
• 8:10
  Speaker A: We are doing a show tomorrow where we're going to try and review them all but there's too many and there
• 8:16
  Speaker B: are a good few now.
• 8:17
  Speaker A: There's too many.
• 8:19
  Speaker B: One's done one We've got.
• 8:21
  Speaker A: We're going to do a drinking game. Obviously John McM doesn't drink. He's. I think he's. He's half it for about a year. Sure. He doesn't really drink. Jim doesn't really drink either. So. But basically the game's going to be every. We're going to. So they're going to have to take a drink of something they don't like. I don't know. Tizer Lucas. I think Q doesn't like Lucas Aid. Jim wanted Disney like Iron Brew which I think's a wee bit controversial.
• 8:45
  Speaker C: Don't like chaps. It's just like Red Flag, you know.
• 8:50
  Speaker A: Not in World cup month to announce something like that. That's a bit dangerous. It might get cancelled for that. So every time. So the drinking game is. He's going to have to take a short Iron Brew every time. Some dimensions Mount Florida mctomy and because I. I have noticed there's a pattern with most of the songs that have. That I've been at so far.
• 9:12
  Speaker C: Like they've got to reference certain places in people as if we're not going to understand the concept without that.
• 9:19
  Speaker A: Maybe a Bonnie Glenn. Perhaps a Bonnie Glenn.
• 9:22
  Speaker B: Indeed. On a battlefield.
• 9:25
  Speaker A: Well, what I sent Darren, it might be the last person caught me unconscious did a Scotland song yesterday.
• 9:32
  Speaker C: Right?
• 9:33
  Speaker B: You had that one?
• 9:34
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 9:34
  Speaker B: Oh, great.
• 9:35
  Speaker A: I was inspired by all the great music.
• 9:37
  Speaker C: You've done a fish take one.
• 9:40
  Speaker A: What?
• 9:40
  Speaker C: You've done a fast take one.
• 9:42
  Speaker A: It's not. It's not serious.
• 9:44
  Speaker B: Is it called Over Hill and Glenn?
• 9:46
  Speaker C: It's serious.
• 9:47
  Speaker A: It's called Donald. Where's your morphe?
• 9:53
  Speaker C: Donald Measure Morphine.
• 9:57
  Speaker A: Donald is a morphe because Donald Trump's moss for the I live list.
• 10:01
  Speaker B: Ah. She has indeed.
• 10:03
  Speaker A: And I visited. They were losing. No offense there with Lewis but I'm married a Harris guy. Team Harris. They've. They're. That's a fighting talk actually.
• 10:11
  Speaker B: Right.
• 10:12
  Speaker A: I think Celtic and Rangers have got a problem.
• 10:14
  Speaker B: Lewis and Madison. How close have such a problem? There's nobody around them, I guess.
• 10:21
  Speaker A: Say the same about us. You can see the Same about every.
• 10:24
  Speaker B: I think it's cool. I think it's cool that people are jumping in and. And you know, expressing themselves through the music. My views on how Scotland are going to do the World cup are really hopeful. I say they're really hopeful too. But.
• 10:38
  Speaker A: Yeah. What. What did you. Were you not tempted to make a Scotland World cup song?
• 10:44
  Speaker B: I'm always tempted to make a song but it's not. It's not when I don't feel I have the right to because I'm not a big football person.
• 10:53
  Speaker C: Football fans. So I was in cyclists. Do you know what I mean?
• 10:58
  Speaker B: Cleaning up the soup, by the way, because my daughter hasn't eaten the soups, in case you wonder. She smelled the soup, spilled the tea, spilled the soup. I not. I like watching it, but I don't feel like I have enough knowledge to take part, if you know what I mean.
• 11:16
  Speaker A: You like. You like a. A song since would you call it. What would you call an exercise?
• 11:21
  Speaker B: We could do that. I could.
• 11:25
  Speaker A: You could. You could have a song finished by the end of the show. Basically all you need to do is mention Hamden. Roar.
• 11:31
  Speaker B: Oh, listen.
• 11:34
  Speaker A: Heathers in the Hills, Mount Florida Battlefield.
• 11:40
  Speaker C: Freestyle and folk songs like the structure of a folk song, particularly male. Male folk singers. The structure of the song is so like formulaic and predictable that actually Becky can freestyle entire folk songs in the car, even in quite busy traffic. Just looking at the environment and pulling an ante. I kind of folky vortex.
• 12:07
  Speaker B: I feel like as long as you start by going and then you go from there, it's usually playing. Well.
• 12:18
  Speaker A: I don't know if you remember Scottish album of the year. I had that back. We're in. I can be twee too. That's what it says.
• 12:23
  Speaker B: I would never leave you.
• 12:25
  Speaker A: I would never leave you. Because My postcode is G2. Do you know what? I'm going to just. I'm just going to stop. I'm going to stop my camera for a second because I've actually I put upgraded that and it's the. The. The Asti can't handle this amount of Internet. Could you do. Could you do. Do I talk about your glassware just for two seconds just to turn this down a bit.
• 12:50
  Speaker B: You're going to ask me if you set a folks on there, weren't you do that.
• 12:52
  Speaker A: I'm going to ask you if you still a folk song but I didn't want to just say freestyle a folks home and then leave you with that thought. So if you talk about Glasgow and then. Then get. Then get, get the guitar. I think we can do this. You've got Glasgow I'm ready to tell
• 13:12
  Speaker B: you all about, don't worry. So 21st of this month, Glads Cafe in Glasgow is our homecoming gig after our tour which has been going on since May April and May April, which is a new month I've made up and it's in the Glad Cafe 21st we're playing our whole album after the Fog Air, which was written by me and Stegg G. Got a five piece band, it'll be a six piece actually on the day and we've got an amazing support actor we've not announced yet. So we can announce here and now who is the wonderful pop legend Sarah Grace, who'll be doing a support slot, a song Seeds attendee and also an absolutely like mind blowing singer and artist in her own right. So she's going to be doing a support slot. You never know, there might be a few more surprises as well. But that's in the Glad cafe on the 21st, which is Sunday this month. Yeah, amazing.
• 14:08
  Speaker A: That's this. And then you're also. You are actually clashing. Darn, you're in. Evan.
• 14:14
  Speaker C: Always collaborating, mate. Never clashing. Always collaborating. Yeah. What. What have I got in the 21st Inverness?
• 14:22
  Speaker A: Leith Arches, I think.
• 14:24
  Speaker C: Fuck Leaf arches. Sorry, I'm Vanessa's next week. I am at Leaf. Well, because I mean out of the. Of my own generosity, to be honest. You know, when you, when you, when you're at the Edinburgh fringe every year for five years in a row and people from Leith messages saying, when are you going to do a show near us? And my natural first thought, when people from Leith say when I'm at the Edinburgh fringe, when are you going to do a show near us as well? Actually that's a good point. It's much more convenient for me to bring a whole production to Leith for people and Leith to come to the Edinburgh fringe. And so this year what I did was I said it, you can have a show and Leith especially for you. But of course the problem is people's, people's. People's anticipation, people's sense of what they want when it's actually presented to them. They're very, very slow off the mark. Do you know what I mean? Unless there's a tram stop directly to the seat in the venue where they're gonna come, so knows how we're gonna sell that place.
• 15:34
  Speaker B: Do you know what I mean?
• 15:36
  Speaker C: I might have to appeal to the local cycling population which I hear has grown exponentially since the Whole place has been gentrified.
• 15:43
  Speaker B: But you could write a football song that might do it.
• 15:46
  Speaker C: I. I could give it a go. And. And all the other shows. All the other shows.
• 15:56
  Speaker A: It's a cracking venue. We played November.
• 15:59
  Speaker C: That is good.
• 16:00
  Speaker A: And it shows to Jade. The who put it on. He's put on the. Tried to get it. Anyway, I was going to put the poster up. It's. Yeah. Lee thatches, Sunday the 21st and I. I got. That was the first time I got a tram and it feels like my entire adult life. Edinburgh was under construction for trams.
• 16:22
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 16:23
  Speaker A: And then I finally got on the tram on in November and do you know what it was. It was really bad. I know. I know that everyone hates the drums. I know that Edinburgh, he's the drums. I know that it cost a lot of money. I heard it was a wee bit delayed, a wee bit over budget but you know, I had. I really enjoyed my trap. You know.
• 16:43
  Speaker C: I'm hearing you.
• 16:44
  Speaker B: I think if you're not from Edinburgh then the trams are an absolute delight. I can imagine it's different if you're from there.
• 16:52
  Speaker A: This actually came up on the Q A. Ivory Blacks. I don't know if you remember Darren.
• 16:57
  Speaker B: Oh yeah, it did. Yeah it did. Yeah. The first one.
• 17:01
  Speaker A: Yes, the first question. The first question, which we are. I'm going to try and edit that and send you. Send you over to see if you. You're all right with that going out. Because I think it was good. I can't remember. I thought it's hard to. It's hard to know when you're doing these things. Life. So. So Ed. So you're. You're doing le. So this is this trauma industrial complex. You're doing the 21st.
• 17:23
  Speaker C: Yeah. One one hour show and then one hour Q& A. And that's been a great format for this tour and I think I will future always have that format because the show is always going to have some kind of thesis that relates to the experiences of the audience anyway and them getting a chance to come in one. It means you don't need to write another 45 minutes to have a two part interval show. And also it's. It's a good way to kind of chat to people who've come along because you don't always get the time to hang out after it. So it kills a few birds with. With one stone, which is obviously what I'm all about, mate, killing bugs.
• 18:08
  Speaker A: So I. So you don't actually. So that means you don't have to like stay behind as much to talk to everybody because your shows always seems like that your, your show comes with specific questions because obviously we come off stage, there's always people that want to say hi and stuff. But if he was like, there's always people just choking to ask you a very specific question.
• 18:32
  Speaker C: So the Q and A. The Q and A creates the appropriate amount of time to do that without people feeling like I'm not giving them my full attention or me feeling like people are not being considerate of, of, of my time. So when you actually set the time aside, then it means that everybody gets what they want, including me, which is always nice in any transaction. So I. It's been a good format and I. Everybody is dealing in the live event space unless you're Kevin Bridges or a big act where people know the tickets are selling out straight away. Everybody's dealing with slow ticket sales, everybody's dealing with anxiety and the days leading up to the show. But at the end of the day, it's a privilege to be doing events and it's a privilege to be doing all these things. And I need to remember that if, if you were actually playing in a venue that's five times the size, you would still be anxious because all the costs associated with doing the show and the potential embarrassment of it not being full would be just the same as if it was 100 cap venue. And I always just try and keep that in mind no matter what the dynamics are, because it's like these are the things that we all wanted today when we were young, you know, we wanted to travel and we wanted to play and sometimes we just turn that into a nightmare for ourselves, you know what I mean? So I'm looking forward to bringing this really positive outlook and attitude to the sunny people of Leith.
• 20:05
  Speaker A: Would young you and young to both of you, young Becky, young Darren would use if young, I don't know, say 16 year old versions of you. Would you, if you were to look at yourselves now, would you be proud of yourselves? So why, why can't we. Why can't we just be proud of ourselves now? Can we or can you?
• 20:25
  Speaker C: It's just, it's just a mind. It's just a. It's just a human mind mate. Not to get too deep on the podcast, you know what I mean? But the human mind is always looking for the next problem and the umbrella
• 20:35
  Speaker B: me is proud of herself but in the little momentary moments of me are all dead anxious about everything all the time. Do you know what I mean?
• 20:41
  Speaker C: It's a bit like this Right. Have you ever just stood for watching a bee just fly in a glass pane?
• 20:48
  Speaker A: And.
• 20:48
  Speaker C: And where the doors are all Nana House and the be. Somehow that managed to get in kind of get. It just keeps flying into a pane of glass. And you stand there and you stare at all that. What a stupid bee. Do you know what I mean? But that's what we're all doing.
• 21:02
  Speaker B: We're just bees flying into the glass.
• 21:06
  Speaker C: It's the exact same thing. It's. It's. It's a lack of perspective. You know, it's no really understanding where you really are. Yeah.
• 21:13
  Speaker A: And what.
• 21:14
  Speaker C: And what the root really is. So I would need to remember that because.
• 21:20
  Speaker A: Because I was talking about someone about this other day and they were asking, do you know. You know, because that's. That's what I brought up. Are you not proud of yourself? And I didn't really know. Answer the question. It's like, I. I think that the phrase pride comes before a fall. Like, I. I don't get very comfortable giving myself to others or passing the back because I just feel like, oh, you're just setting yourself up for something bad. Is that, is that. Is that just mental? No.
• 21:44
  Speaker B: I think there's a difference between what a kid thinks, which is. And I. An ideal or a dream. Like, it's different when you're an adult. You're dealing with reality every day. That's not. It's not like nothing's easy. Do you know what I mean? Like, nobody's just coasting about. You know, everything's really, really tough. So, you know, I think I'm similar, Mark. I'm always like, on the hustle. Like, always thinking about the next step, the next move, or, like, where I'm going. But I think it is good sometimes to take stock. Like, I get asked to take stock quite a bit because of the kids, obviously. Do you know what I mean? So you've kind of got to take stock here and there and go, we're actually doing okay. Do you know what I mean? But, but in general, I think, you know, a child has an ideal. An ideal image of what the future is. The future can be amazing, but it's always hard. Like, reality is not a dream. Yeah. It's not like a kid.
• 22:35
  Speaker C: As parents, it's our job to destroy that child.
• 22:38
  Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, our daughter can be saying this now. She knows she's not going to be a princess. You know what I mean? That's. That's life.
• 22:46
  Speaker A: But. But you can. You can need to match it as well.
• 22:49
  Speaker C: She's painting. She's actually. She's painting the living room walls. Worth it as well. So there's always a future career as
• 22:55
  Speaker B: that she's going to be. Yeah.
• 22:59
  Speaker A: Wait, Edmund. Fringe Performative male. That. So that's trauma. It's at the end of the trauma
• 23:04
  Speaker C: Industrial complex stops for the Fringe. And then I go back onto her after the Fringe.
• 23:08
  Speaker A: And obviously I know this already, but for people that don't know the performative male, you kind of. I kind of interrupted you, I think. Yeah. Explain what the Fringe show is about. And obviously you've got, you've got some really good special guests there as well.
• 23:22
  Speaker C: The, the Friends show is an in conversation series where I'm getting a bit deeper into the topic of masculinity by talking to a bunch of guests, most of them being men from different backgrounds who have different views on masculinity, what the problems are, what the solutions are. But also it's men who have established themselves in broader communities. And so in that sense I think that the prospect of the in conversation might be an exciting one for people who follow them as opposed to people who know me. So, you know, it's a chance to put something on at the Fringe without pressuring myself to write a new hour. I think I need to do a wee bit more investigation and research and hear a few more views and opinions on this issue before I dive in with my take. So it means that I can do research, interview people, get a feel for what the audience is into, what they're not into, and still be able to put on. Put on something at the festival.
• 24:25
  Speaker A: And that's. I've seen Textures Brahm. Brammy Gibbon is one of the your guests who I believe will be on the show this month. He's us. He's. He misses me. So we'll have Bramon who, who's been doing a lot of good substack essays on. On the Sub as well. And. And Becky, what was what tell us about your tour then. What has been. What's been the highlight?
• 24:49
  Speaker B: I think the. See all the different places have all had their own highlights. But what the. The plan of the tour is to bring like kind of more pop, I guess it's compared to trad music, like more pop, urban music to rural areas. So like that was the kind of the point of it. Obviously you try and get more. They are reaching more than an audience as well. But. But it's been beautiful just traveling. I've got such a lovely band. They're all great musicians and it's great to work with them. When we went up to Ullapool, that was just gorgeous. We got a pure sunny day. Brilliant. But we also started that day with the polis getting called because I left my suitc a pavement in East Cobrade. And then they basically were worried it was a bomb.
• 25:35
  Speaker C: So I got a chapter go for the polls, a chat watch instantly recognized as a Polish chap. And then just somebody going like that. Are you Becky Wallace's husband? And I was just like, oh no, that's. She's gotten an argument with a BMW driver and he's most far off the road and they're all fucking deed it could happen. I mean I just looked down the road and there was another polestone and next to all her cases. And I was just like, all right, I get it. I know what's happening.
• 26:03
  Speaker B: Like we had to drive all the way olive. We had to get the kids to school and we were packing a car and I just left a couple of hands outside the road and a rush. So that was the first.
• 26:13
  Speaker C: So that's how you start a tour.
• 26:15
  Speaker B: One of these highlights.
• 26:16
  Speaker A: You're lucky they didn't they detonate it like a controlled. A controlled demolition and a controlled explosion.
• 26:23
  Speaker B: I know, I know. We were lucky. It turned out that the. The day before there'd been something happened in Atlanta and they had to call the bomb squad out. So they were like heavy.
• 26:30
  Speaker A: So they were in the area anyway.
• 26:33
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was that. And then the second strafing was cool. Strafing. We were playing in such a beautiful wee theater space. It was really, really nice. But that was another anxiety ridden day because like in the morning the gig there was like eight tickets sold. So I didn't think anything was coming to that. But it ended up a lovely night. That was great also. And then we done and obviously then we had Galloway which get cancelled, but
• 26:54
  Speaker A: the one in bu it got postponed. Duty cycles, cyclists on the road.
• 26:58
  Speaker B: Actually it got postpone. Why do I feel that I've missed one?
• 27:03
  Speaker A: You were in there with Butte. I was at that one.
• 27:05
  Speaker B: That was amazing.
• 27:06
  Speaker A: Honestly, with the fabulous shiry and the
• 27:09
  Speaker B: velvet underpants was just what I just can't believe the energy. My favorite thing about his performance was the stone cold like monotone expression of his whole band. Like just like I think they've seen musicians and they're just like they're playing this cold, cold. And he was just rifing about the floor. I mean we had no over on his head and all that. I thought that the way they played it, they're all.
• 27:38
  Speaker C: They're committed to it. They're all committed to it.
• 27:40
  Speaker B: So that was brilliant.
• 27:41
  Speaker A: We loved be and even Zambo had shouts to Zambo on the sound. He had a great laugh.
• 27:47
  Speaker B: Yeah, a great sound guy. So that was. That was spectacular, Mark, like. So I'll definitely be going back there at some point to play again, maybe hook up. Huy, dig in, see if we can do something else over there. And then the ne. And then obviously we've kick Glasgow, so only been five stops, all in, which I hate for a lot of artists still. Like, we tour all the time, but that's the first time I've ever done one, so I just liked it, man. I just. I just thought it was a new way to get to know people. Everywhere I've been, people have loved the music and they've came up after and said how nice it was to have something different from what they would usually have. So that's all that's dead positive for me, like, just to hear that, you know, and hope for. Hope for a wee bit more of it. I think I've got the confidence now to go out and do it myself, like, and just maybe do it a wee bit more and get more used to it. So I. It's been great. I'll hopefully do some. A wee bit more here and there over the summer. I'm taking. I'm going up to the black Iot to do some stuff with some young people and then through the summer there'll be a few more gigs than that, but I've not committed to anything this year, so I'm just writing a new album after this tour. But, yeah, it's been an amazing experience. But like Darren says, like, the anxiety of going place to place and worrying about if Andy's going to come and. And actually, weirdly, like, Glasgow's such home turf for us that we're dead comfortable here. But when you go out, like, far away, nobody knows who. I mean, obviously they don't know who you are, so you're getting like, you know, community centers and just hope for the best. So it's quite. It's quite humbling as well, but it's been great, man. And the age range of the audience too, has been dead interesting. I've had, like, in a local, there was people there who are like, 18. There was like a few kind of about our age, and then there was people that were like, 80 and they were loving it and that was so cool as well. And some dugs. My daughter sent Me, this note, it says that word in the middle is throw it F R O T E. My throat.
• 29:36
  Speaker A: So my throat hurts.
• 29:38
  Speaker B: Yeah, my throat hurts.
• 29:44
  Speaker A: I thought. I thought I was being lazy, but I think I was just ill. Yeah. I didn't know I got. Oh, I didn't know.
• 29:51
  Speaker B: Well, you know, sometimes, yeah, hangovers masquerade as illness or the other.
• 29:57
  Speaker A: No, no, that's. I think just obviously if I'm no feeling well, it's usually I just think I've brought it on myself, but I think it was just ill. But yeah, I. I feel like, yeah, I was out for a few days and then yesterday I felt great.
• 30:09
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 30:10
  Speaker A: Just been a busy day, you know.
• 30:12
  Speaker B: You've got to tell me you've got a rest for yourself sometimes.
• 30:15
  Speaker A: I know I Disney World like that though. It was a nice sunny. It was a nice. I was offered. I had finally got a week off last week and I went. I felt guilty because I was missing the sunshine. And then when I was in the sunshine I was like, I should be doing stuff. And I just neither enjoyed myself or getting any work done. But it's a new week, we start again. You said new album. What is. Where are you at? And then you album you've written.
• 30:40
  Speaker B: So I'm using like all the songs that I've written from the two. Two years or three years I've been running Song Seeds. So after all these songs, it's hard to explain where they exist and. And I mean where they exist in the world. Like, it's like it's very vulnerable effect. Like Song Seeds are very vulnerable space, you know. So all the songs are very honest, I think. So I'm going to call it Notes from Therapy. And I think the subtext is how to train your avoidant, which was Darren's idea. But I think that's good as a subtext for the. For the album. And it's just. I think I'm going to just focus on trying to do something completely on my own, like play all the instruments, produce all the music and just like bring it back to that kind of guitar root. So probably quite acoustic, but I think it's going to be quite cathartic to just put it out, you know, and it's. I mean, the songs are great, you know, I think like we've had so many people. We had them. Kareem Polwart, actually, I used her song on. On after the Foggy or the Wood between the Worlds. Like. So that was from a prompt that she gave us. Jill Jackson gave us a great prompt about like writing a letter to yourself. That'll be on this next one. Rachel Sermani gave us a beautiful prompt, which I've done a really cool song about having adhd. This is called Two Places at Once. It's good. That'll be on the next one. So I like. I think just like bringing all those stories in and talking about how they were all made and just making something that said, like, open and kind of shows you the process. I'm really getting into just talking about songs and what more publicly. You know, I do that in workshops and stuff, but just like making that who I am, just chatting about the songs. Darren said, just over here, giving our daughter a wee mini row there.
• 32:27
  Speaker C: Actually, I'm giving her milk with honey in it and cinnamon and asking her not to spell it, which requires very carefully weighed, very carefully sentences and statements, or else I'll be waiting. I'll be wearing it. Do you know what I mean?
• 32:41
  Speaker A: I'm gonna. I'm gonna go on a Facebook. That's. That's because there was a couple things I wanted to talk about, and I can't remember what they were, but you call that radio's Facebook page. Yes, here we go. That's with it. Talent. Have you heard about this one? Talent recruiter Behind Action Trump 250 concert is named Jeff Epstein. So, you know, there's a. Basically there was a bunch of acts booked. I think it's actually tonight somewhere. There's a UFC ring. There's going to be UFC fight outside the White House, and there's going to be. There was about 12 bands that have pulled it. And the. The guy that was booking them, the guy that was emailing the ax to put them in the first place was called Jeff Epstein.
• 33:26
  Speaker B: But because they were told they were playing an America's 250 party, don't get me wrong, I mean, the Axe, it's like Melly vanilla and iced tea.
• 33:35
  Speaker A: And like, I don't think it was iced tea.
• 33:39
  Speaker C: Oh, no.
• 33:43
  Speaker A: Yeah. There's a wee bit of a difference there.
• 33:47
  Speaker B: But I actually, that. That guy. They're all on that guy. Jeff Epstein's talent agency. Like, that would be your first red flag.
• 33:54
  Speaker A: Yeah, no, you need to change. He needs to change his name or his job. You can't. You kind of just be trying sending people email simage, like to play my game.
• 34:03
  Speaker C: I mean, who wants to.
• 34:04
  Speaker A: What.
• 34:04
  Speaker C: What. What serious artist wants to be seen in that context?
• 34:07
  Speaker A: I know.
• 34:09
  Speaker C: I think like, UFC's cool. People that are in it are cool. But I think when you Marry UFC up with Trump and the White House. Kind of proto fascist.
• 34:20
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 34:20
  Speaker C: And just like people would just naturally artists just when you want to be. That's a thing that you're never going to outrun. If you took part in that. Fair enough. There's going to be some people that want to be seen as part of that because they're not really wanted anywhere else. And so they can find an audience. But the money. There's also just like people that are in power even if they're Dex. You know what I mean? They've got a kind of. They've got quite an allure. And so I. The fact that it's all falling apart, I think is.
• 34:51
  Speaker B: It's hilarious. It's a big fat damp squib. But I mean, we said years ago that it was just Beth tanning from the. The worst timeline and back to the future. You know what I mean? It totally is like. It's just. It's just, it's. It's rotten at its core. And it looks. It's just like. It's just like McDonald's. It's just a big McDonald's world we live in now. That's what it feels like.
• 35:14
  Speaker A: Last week we didn't show a special about the right wing has nations. And it's just.
• 35:18
  Speaker B: And you're right, they have nations, they have zero.
• 35:21
  Speaker A: And I got. I got about 30 comments of people saying, oh, no, what about this? What about that? And none of them passed. None of them passed.
• 35:28
  Speaker C: What were they saying?
• 35:30
  Speaker A: Donald or somebody did mention Tom McDonald unironically. And I don't. You can't even really. I didn't even say anything back to
• 35:39
  Speaker B: that because any chat about yay and all that right now, I mean, like, no, thanks.
• 35:45
  Speaker A: I mean, somebody mentioned Morrissey and I don't know if he's. I think he's just. He likes to just say things, you know? I mean, I don't know if he's actually.
• 35:53
  Speaker B: That was my Melody impression there.
• 35:55
  Speaker A: A contrarian. A contrarian.
• 35:57
  Speaker C: It's a bit more like. More. But mew. Do you know what I mean? He's getting.
• 36:03
  Speaker B: It's more like drunk auntie.
• 36:04
  Speaker C: He's like a modest turning up at the school and the dressing gown and the Ugg slippers. You know what I mean? It's just reciting whatever's being said on TV news. Breakfast time. Do you know what I mean?
• 36:19
  Speaker A: Have you. Have you seen the. I'm just recycling the Facebook post, but have you seen the iron bread advert with Sybil and the Franz Ferdinand guitarist.
• 36:27
  Speaker C: No, not yet.
• 36:30
  Speaker A: Something to look forward to. Something. It's a fever dream.
• 36:34
  Speaker C: And it's like a pretty deliberate fever dream.
• 36:38
  Speaker A: Yeah. And it will brought back the old gutter song. The 13th note is coming back.
• 36:43
  Speaker C: Yes.
• 36:44
  Speaker B: Yes.
• 36:44
  Speaker A: That's quite good news to hear that a venue is reopening rather than shutting down for a change.
• 36:49
  Speaker B: Is it going to be called the 13th? Not though.
• 36:51
  Speaker A: No. It's going to be called Anderson's which is a bit sh. And no offense to probably someone called Anderson that's bought it. No, it's. It's the people that run bad in Black Friars who seem to be doing quite a good job with them.
• 37:01
  Speaker B: Okay, good.
• 37:02
  Speaker A: So it could work.
• 37:03
  Speaker C: It could work out bad than like horizontal student sleeping pods. Do you know what I mean?
• 37:10
  Speaker B: Space like that was pub the 13th note. I was drinking in there when I was 15. That's where I used to go when you were. Well, sorry. I used to go when I was underage man had my 16 fin there.
• 37:20
  Speaker A: Well, luckily they've already lost a license, so.
• 37:24
  Speaker B: Yeah, Anderson.
• 37:25
  Speaker A: Anderson is promising pub grub like men Tatis former Michelin chef or a Melin star chef doing men and Tatis upstairs and a cultural music venue.
• 37:40
  Speaker C: What non cultural music is. Is like. What's the sort of. What's the non cultural musical turnaround?
• 37:47
  Speaker A: Well, the Scottish World cup songs for a start. Here. Have you got a guitar nearby? We're going to come in. I want to. I would like to finish. All you need to do is Rainbonic. Lend me something. Steve Clark rhymes up with Steve Clark, the manager.
• 38:08
  Speaker B: No, see, now you're making. Now you're giving me too many talking points.
• 38:12
  Speaker A: I'm just ready. I'm just. Well put you in the spot.
• 38:15
  Speaker C: Lily's going to join for this because she wants to test her. So throw it out to see if she's still got it.
• 38:20
  Speaker A: All right. Okay. We've got a special guest.
• 38:31
  Speaker B: Right. The whole point is to make up stupid songs about the World Cup. Right? Yeah. Okay. Okay, Cool, cool. So tell me more about it. We've got Steve Clark.
• 38:47
  Speaker A: So Steve Clark's the manager. So we want to. It's people. So things like Steve Clark's tartan army would be good. Steve Clark starting army. You want to mention. You've got to mention at least a Glenn or a lock, maybe a bit of haggis, maybe a bit of iron brew and. And Scott McTominay. Everybody's mentioning Scott McTominay's overhead kick. Everyone has to mention that.
• 39:11
  Speaker B: Okay, okay. Oh My God. See as the bonnie green of Humpden O It's a bonny park run by a steep CL and the army. Well that doesn't help but there you go.
• 39:45
  Speaker A: That's good. That's it. Fantastic. That's maybe the best, the best I've heard so far.
• 39:53
  Speaker B: We do enjoy making. I think I'm going to start going take it over there and play it. You're lucky. Now I'm going to start a. An Instagram real series which is just a baron putting up random words and me just making ridiculously bad folk songs. I think that's a good patch.
• 40:15
  Speaker A: Has Dan got an opinion on the festival? Yes, the, the dress code music festival.
• 40:25
  Speaker C: I mean I'm cynical. I think that people actually, I think that people actually do things like that to promote the brand. So they go for something that's provocative that they know is going to create a talking point on social media that will be spun out and print media stories and maybe even some broadcast media stories and talk panels and all that sort of stuff. Like even if that is their policy, I still think that the way that they've promoted that is deliberately meant to make people go, hang on a minute, I'm going to do a song about this, you know what I mean? Or I'm going to respond to this. Most festivals already have no necessarily a dress code, do you know what I mean? But a lot of the big festivals just price certain people anyway so they already get that kind of clientele showing up. So I think that the fact that this festival's gone one further than that and said well no, just pricing you. We also want to publicly humiliate you while you're priced out as just I guess from an advertiser's point of view, great advertising from a consumer's point of view.
• 41:39
  Speaker A: I had, I had sold it already. Had already sold it before probably as
• 41:43
  Speaker B: well someone so out of touch that their whole festival, even though it's sold out is based on the same as that premise of branding. We want this to be branded in a certain way. Therefore we want everyone to have their khakis on. Do you know what I mean? And it to feel really nature like, like that whole thing. It just feels like somebody's forgotten that not everyone's in on their little branding like exercise, you know. What do you think, Lily? He agrees.
• 42:11
  Speaker C: I was the performative male thing that where that came from was an article that got published last year and the Independence Intrepid Lifestyle section. And basically it was a London based journalist who after noticing that there was a meme of men being seen reading literature publicly and how they were being kind of equal parts mocked or suspected of some kind of like toxic masculine agenda. And this includes people who were reading, you know, feminist authors like bell hooks or female writers like Sally Rooney. And the article is called Performative Male Are Men Reading for Attention? Now if you look at just that, just that that headline is enough to sort of make your face palm so hard that you give yourself a mild concussion. Right? And that's the point. That's the point. The point is to click on it and then your cookies are already sent over all the advertisers. Then you can either give away more of your information or go through the paywall. And then when you read the article, it's a lot more temperate and a lot more like light hearted than the provocative title suggests. But this is just anybody who's operating in media and what they want is just reach at the expense of almost everything else, including integrity. Then they just go for whatever it is that's going to cause the most upset. And I think with some issues that's fine if it is light hearted. But I think we're more serious things on anything that's tapping any anxieties or, or prejudices or inequalities like the festival you're talking about. I think it's just, just, just kind of shy.
• 44:00
  Speaker B: Do you know what I think? So aggressive people that tell you what you should read. That's my.
• 44:07
  Speaker C: Not in.
• 44:08
  Speaker A: I don't mind it. I want you to tell me what to do that I'm. Because I'm trying to write a book because I had that week off. Like I said, I've been working really hard so that I could just take a week, a couple of weeks off and write my book. And then I just, I didn't
• 44:23
  Speaker B: tell you what you should read. The. Hank, if you would tell you what you should.
• 44:27
  Speaker A: You know me, what should I read? Don't let me down because I will read it to the end and then I'm.
• 44:34
  Speaker B: I'm rubbish at this. I only read academic books. It's really boring. I would never recommend something I read to you ever. But Darren reads great books. There you go.
• 44:42
  Speaker C: Well, when it's fiction it's always got to be short, you know what I mean? But non fiction, I might not read a whole book in one sitting, but I'll dive into the book enough to get like a solid enough idea of where it's coming from. And when it comes to books, I tend to like stuff that Focuses on human psychology and the way humans behave that goes a bit deeper than this stuff, you know, class and identity. There's one that I've just discovered, actually, a sociologist, Canadian guy Effing Goffman his name is. And his whole thing is that, you know, humans are essentially performers and that we have a front stage Persona. That's the thing that we think everybody wants to see. And then we've got the backstage Persona, which is when we let it all hang out a wee bit and some of the flaws come through. And then we've got this other realm, which is no one gets to see the kind of secret self, the private self. And, and, And I just. I end up forgetting I'm reading when I get into that sort of stuff. And I think that's the trick. A lot of people, when people are. Are thrusting things that they like and your. And your direction, it can feel like you're being bossed about. But really what they're doing is what we would do with music. It's like, oh, you remember when. When hip hop was about, like, discovering something new and getting someone else because you were the one who brought it to them. But also the music says something about you. And it's a bit like that with readers. You know, I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't call myself a reader in terms of like, the level of passion and effort that proper readers put in it. But I mean, it doesn't matter if the book's short, doesn't matter if the book's big. Just the act of reading, whether it's a newspaper, whether it's an article online, that's enough. Do you know what I mean? That's enough.
• 46:37
  Speaker B: I think I just. I'm probably a bit jealous, to be honest, because I just. I don't have time to read the book.
• 46:43
  Speaker A: You do too much stuff. So I've been. I've been trying to help you with the. With the tour and stuff, and it's like, I feel like you're too busy to even just say, you should do this, you should do that. Same with you done in the past. What were you. Because he's just so busy.
• 46:57
  Speaker C: Yeah, well, I mean, in my defense of busyness, as an accusation that's been leveled up, a lot of people assume that I'm busy because I'm always doing lots of different things. But I've got a way of working.
• 47:10
  Speaker B: He's really good at relaxing.
• 47:11
  Speaker C: I've got a way of working that. That also allots time for me to do the things that I want to do and also just have time to do nothing. You know what I mean? Like, so that's got everything.
• 47:24
  Speaker A: I think the last time you were on you. Is it PlayStation or Xbox? Is that how you earn went
• 47:31
  Speaker C: sometimes PlayStation, sometimes it'll be, you know, I walk up to the gym and train for an hour and have the shower and. And all that for me to decompress. And then other times it's literally like I like to. I like to just go. Go into my bedroom and close the door for a couple hours and close the curtains in a nice cold, cold dark space where I just get to reset a wee bit. You know, I mean because just the act of dealing with other human beings and I don't mean that in a bad way. I just mean for whatever reason, man, that just. That's the most tiring thing for me, you know. I mean so just taking a couple of hours to just like be on my own and reset. No hiding for anybody. Just taking that time. That suits me fine.
• 48:16
  Speaker A: What about podcasts? You listen as a as. Do you ever listen to podcasts on mind Is there anything or is there anything? Because what I'm. I could like just know to win a same thing curtain shot, put on a podcast or. Or I don't know like a lecture or something. YouTube. I've got YouTube Premium.
• 48:32
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 48:32
  Speaker A: So I've got like short documentaries.
• 48:35
  Speaker B: What Numbing trivia. That's what I like. I like to go deep on all the facts that were ever invented and wrestling documentaries.
• 48:42
  Speaker A: We spoke about this before. I love a wrestling documentary. I don't watch wrestling itself but I love.
• 48:47
  Speaker B: I do watch that too but that's my whole like relaxation thing is around that. Or if I'm really, really relaxed then I'll write a song. But I need to get. There's levels to it. As Roman Reigns would say.
• 49:03
  Speaker C: I usually tribal chief report the tribal chief. I'll start. I start the day with just about a news to just get caught up.
• 49:10
  Speaker B: I feel like news is just on all the time. Me too. I'm constantly listening.
• 49:16
  Speaker A: I always start with the news. It's like when I wake up I've always got a few messages. It's always bad news. Always bad news. Or asking me to do something and then reading the news is bad news. Is there no any. What I've been trying to do a wee bit more is but the weather's not been allowing it. But I did do a few days and I think it worked. It's just waking up and trying to not look at my Phone.
• 49:39
  Speaker B: That's where I find the most love and joy is out. I love the woods and we've get woods really close by. So if I've got a couple hours, I'll go, even if it's quite late in the day for a walk in the woods. And I absolutely love doing that like. Or I love going for a big long cycle that's just about getting in the countryside. Do you know what I mean?
• 49:59
  Speaker A: You just want to get straight into the news, just wake up straight in. Well, see what Trump's been up to.
• 50:05
  Speaker C: Well, no, no, no, no. I just mean in terms of like media. I have a. I have about an hour before I turn it on, where I'm just sort of sitting more reflective when I'll have maybe some ambient music on or something like that. I find that that helps me to connect with bigger ideas other than what the logistics are of the day or how annoying everybody is. And then that means I'm in a good, a good place to deal with other human beings when they start appearing around 8 o'. Clock.
• 50:34
  Speaker B: He's top of us, you understand? There's no other community around, you know what I mean?
• 50:40
  Speaker C: But then in the afternoon I'll catch up with movie news, but maybe some video game stuff. That's while I'm eating.
• 50:49
  Speaker A: Sorry, just to get. Just to clarify this. So you, you. So you're putting on. So you're, you're not looking at your phone, so you're not reading the message. You're getting ambient music on and reading the articles with ambient music to take the edge off it.
• 51:00
  Speaker C: Yeah, well, if I'm up early, I'll. I'll maybe catch up with some writing. I'll. The morning's the best time for me to start that. Then in the afternoon, then afternoon it's more like pop culture stuff, video game stuff. What's happening in the world of comic book films and stuff like that. Maybe some Anthony Fantano.
• 51:19
  Speaker A: I like about Fantano.
• 51:21
  Speaker C: Yeah, Reviews, catching up with what the chat is, you know, the latest kind of. I always keep up with, you know, the commercial artists of my time and of current time in terms of if there's any beefs or politics going on. I like to stay up on all that. What are the subliminal shots in that?
• 51:39
  Speaker A: On that point? I heard that Jay Z's been going everybody. Yeah, but I listened to the freestyle. Wasn't he.
• 51:46
  Speaker C: Well, if you're not, if you're not up on, on his lore, then, you
• 51:51
  Speaker A: know, are you up. Are you up to Speed. Do you know what. What it was all about?
• 51:54
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 51:55
  Speaker A: Can you give me. Can you give me the load of Jay Z's new freestyle?
• 51:58
  Speaker C: Well, he came, he came, he came out and started ratting for the first time in about 10 years. And it was after all these different. I. All these different accusations about his behavior in relation to Puff Daddy and all of this. And, and he came up with a really nice acapella, opened a show, sold out show, the Roots Picnic and, and with the Roots, obviously, as he started
• 52:25
  Speaker A: with that acapella, that was.
• 52:27
  Speaker C: It was the opening thing. So he started that and he addressed. He addressed basically every sort of high profile, a hip hop person who took a shot on. But he did it in a very w. Sly way with a theme that ran through the whole thing that was really awesome. Sort of I'm so angry I could kill you, but I'm too rich to get away with sort of vibes. So I've seen a lot of interesting breakdowns of. Of what he meant and, and all the different entendres. But I mean, he's a clever lyricist so it's always interesting to hear him when. When he's got his game face on. That was interesting. And then in the evening, we won't usually have a show that we're watching the new. We're watching Spider on the War and we've done some in black and white. Now we're watching some of them in color. And then we caught up with some Nicholas Cage interviews talking about it, which is interesting.
• 53:20
  Speaker B: And then finish watching the Boys as
• 53:21
  Speaker C: well and talking about that. And then my thing at night's usually all sort of Soviet era stuff, you know, the collapse of the Soviet Union. There's always something to do with that, you know, I mean, Bolsheviks and. And I might only listening for 20 minutes before I fall asleep. I don't know what it is that's comforting about it. I don't know if it's historical enough that it's. No, make me anxious. Or if it's the sort of promise
• 53:44
  Speaker B: of the nostalgia of it.
• 53:45
  Speaker C: A promise of a Marxist utopia maybe one day, but without all the Gary that can go on with these things.
• 53:52
  Speaker B: I actually think it's the nostalgia of the 90s, even though you're living it through the documentaries of the. Of those years. Because in the 90s we. That's when we learned about all this stuff. We were. We felt safe. Yeah, Honestly, it's mad. I like space stuff at night. I like to like look at planets and galaxies and what the telescope's seeing and all that stuff.
• 54:15
  Speaker A: Stuff like I like a quantum physics podcast because I don't have a clue what they're saying. No, I. There's lots of words that I don't understand, so it's really hard to get opinionated in that.
• 54:23
  Speaker B: Yeah. What's that one? Is it Cur gap or something? It's like. It's like a can. It's almost like cartoony. But they do like really a lot of science stuff.
• 54:33
  Speaker C: I don't know.
• 54:34
  Speaker B: It's really, really good, man. I like all that too, but it's just old mo ways to relax. But actually the relaxing I always feel just is turning into procrastination for me. So I get guilty with the relaxing.
• 54:46
  Speaker A: This is what happened to me last week.
• 54:48
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 54:48
  Speaker A: I finally got. I finally got a few days off and I just felt like I've waited so long to have, you know, more space to write and I thought, well, I've got time off. There's nothing holding me back. And.
• 55:01
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
• 55:03
  Speaker A: But I think it ended up making a Scottish World cup song that we're gonna. We're gonna release tomorrow. I put as little effort into it as everyone else's.
• 55:12
  Speaker B: I. I might just join you for a laugh, man.
• 55:15
  Speaker A: Well, you already did. You just did one there. Just clip it. Clip that. That's just. That's as much effort as anyone else seems to be putting into their grass.
• 55:23
  Speaker B: So green has been seen and that.
• 55:24
  Speaker A: Although there is a boy band that's doing backflips and a kilt. So that's a wee bit mere effort.
• 55:31
  Speaker B: Can't do a flash mob in central.
• 55:34
  Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Colonel Mustard did a flash mob in Central Station.
• 55:39
  Speaker B: I mean, good for them.
• 55:40
  Speaker A: I've seen the video. It's part of the music video.
• 55:42
  Speaker B: It's the love of football. Right. And I don't.
• 55:45
  Speaker A: He loves his football. He's a manager of his kids football team, I think.
• 55:48
  Speaker B: Exactly. That's what it is, man. You get it.
• 55:51
  Speaker A: But it's a cracking tune, to be honest. It's the samba, yabamba, and also the concept of. Because Scotland brought football to Brazil. So we calling having the golf to call us fathers of Brazilian football. At least it's got a bit of an angle to it.
• 56:08
  Speaker B: He's thought about it. He thought about it.
• 56:10
  Speaker A: He actually. He has put thought into it. And I seen the. I got a wee sneaky peek exclusive of the video today. Hendo and Tam, I think did it. So it's a cracking video. I think that's coming up tomorrow. So we'll be doing that tomorrow night. We've got Hugh Reed who's also got a World cup song. We've got Color Mustard who's launching his video. Jack of Trades, going to release a sh. And Jim Moran who's just coming on to judge everybody.
• 56:35
  Speaker B: Fantastic. Is he actually going to judge everybody?
• 56:38
  Speaker A: Yeah, we're all judging. We're going to play the drinking game. He's going to take a shot at Iron Brew. Every time someone mentions Mount Florida, We're getting. Oh, you kind of collect. Heckling again. May I desire to acquire to inform the threes you're looking but all love for collection.
• 56:59
  Speaker B: Thanks, baby doll.
• 57:02
  Speaker A: Epime, Jupiter and Pollux will be paired close tonight on the Space team.
• 57:07
  Speaker B: Thank you. That's good to know.
• 57:09
  Speaker A: Well, it's a blooming. We've got a full. It's apparently a blooming this week.
• 57:13
  Speaker B: We've got a telescope out the back we got for Daniel one year and he's never used it. But every now and again we look
• 57:19
  Speaker C: we're supposed to encourage them and take them to places and do interesting things with the telescope but we've not really kept ourselves and we just thought. We just thought maybe this telescope will act as some sort of childcare for a couple hours.
• 57:33
  Speaker A: Well, it's fair enough. It didn't work. No, it's not an iPad.
• 57:37
  Speaker C: I just thought it'd be funny to say that.
• 57:43
  Speaker A: In fact New Galloway. I'm pretty sure New Galloway is dark skies.
• 57:49
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 57:49
  Speaker A: The Michelin star of skies didn't there
• 57:52
  Speaker C: in the Galloway pubs I went to.
• 57:56
  Speaker B: So I'm getting retreat once in New Galloway and it was during the time when there was me our shower and it was. Was amazing. You could see everything. It was so cool. So it is. That is beautiful. Maybe we'll take the telescope down there.
• 58:08
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 58:09
  Speaker A: Stuart saying this is a good show. Thanks Stuart and Madame Guy. Hello. Hello. Jigsaw Tiger. Thanks. Everyone's tuning in and if you. Thanks to the patrons for supporting the show. We've done an hour that's flown in. It's always a pleasure guys. If any final thoughts, any final words, any final plugs?
• 58:27
  Speaker B: 21st of June, Glasgow people get down to the Glad Cafe for the last of our shows on this tour. It's going to be a banger, Darren.
• 58:36
  Speaker C: Yeah. I would plug that as well as
• 58:38
  Speaker A: my plug and you'll be in Lee 30. So if you're in. If you're in the east coast go and see Darren. If you're in the west coast says Leaf.
• 58:45
  Speaker B: I only ever think about Darren's battle that he did where he said congratulations for being the only one near Leaf with real teeth. And everyone called.
• 58:59
  Speaker A: Oh, no, that was a good one. That was a good battle. That was a. That was the Flying Duck which Sadly shut down. 13th notes back. But Flying Duck's gone.
• 59:16
  Speaker B: It's not good. That's this year because we'll just.
• 59:18
  Speaker A: I think that's the first time I met Dan. I think. I think I properly had the conversation. It was Don't Flop, Don't Fortnite versus Nutty Grits.
• 59:28
  Speaker B: That's. That's the exact battle rap I'm talking about as well. I just don't know what I'd like call out in case it started off okay.
• 59:33
  Speaker A: I think Nick is. I think that is getting used to the. The teeth things where I was actually. I was actually showing. Introducing somebody to the. Some Scottish battle rap lord. They'd never even knew it was a thing on the island. It's not reached aisle yet. Absolutely loving it. And it was just. They couldn't believe how many times that they get mentioned. When you actually start watching it back, it's like
• 59:55
  Speaker B: you've changed. At the start. Was that Rap versus Panda? Remember that one? Oh, good.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker A: Pandas. I'm enjoying Panda's YouTube channel. He's doing great. Stuart's going to try the arches. Glad to hear everyone's got great stuff coming up, says Jigsaw Tiger. I believe that Jigsaw Tiger's got some stuff coming up as well, which I'm glad to hear. And be nuts says I. New albums about her. Becky.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker C: Thank you.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker A: Check out after the Fog Air. Becky Wallace's album is available with Stag G on all the. The plugins and not funded by Creative Scotland is available. There's still vinyl done.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker B: Yeah, they're still vinyl. Yeah.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker C: I've got a couple of boxes there. I think there's about 40 or 50 left.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker B: You can get that on Band Camp as well. If you want to order Darren's final.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker A: Get it on Bandcamp and buy a. If you're. And while you're on Bandcamp, get Dreams of Men over there. Because I just got a box brought back to me from my last. My last show. Have you. Wait. They have no sooner in this year
• 1:01:00
  Speaker B: we go.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker A: I got a. I don't. I don't believe in what is it for. But. Yeah.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker B: What did you win that for? Is that all the awards and one is the OR seal. Yeah.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker A: It's kind of like my. My version and Orwell team captain 2008. It looks like it looks like my gravestone, to be honest, but 2008 to 2026, Jerry's name shouts to Josephine seller. She actually made me a gyro. But it's actually, it's actually, it's actually. I didn't realize how well written it was. It's actually really funny and it's actually very sweet. So that's what I was fucking 18 years for this. I really liked it. Thank you.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker B: You deserve it, Mark.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker A: Thank you. Anyway, I've turned in it's not all about me. Thank you. Becky Wallace, Darren McGarvey, we are back tomorrow night for the Songs of the World cup special with you Read Colonel Mustard and Jim Monaghan and I hopefully see you there. Thank you to the patrons@patreon.com forward slash. You call that radio for making things happen, CC. Some guys hopefully see it. I'll see you the 21st. I'll either go to Glasgow or Edinburgh.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker B: You go to whatever one you want.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker A: I'll not hate you for going to nice one guys. Take easy. Bye. You are tuned into yct.