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- 0:00Speaker 1: provided by Thomas Allgaier and Frennus.
- 0:02Speaker 1: Based on the most relevant LinkedIn posts talking about the FII ninth edition, twenty twenty five, Frennus specializes in B to B market research for strategy and consulting teams with a focus on tech and ICT.
- 0:15Speaker 0: Welcome to the deep dive.
- 0:17Speaker 0: Today we're taking a look at the future investment initiative in RIA, the FII ninth edition, twenty twenty five.
- 0:24Speaker 1: And our mission here is really to deliver the strategic insights that professionals in our world M&A, private equity strategy, really need to know.
- 0:32Speaker 1: Because this wasn't a typical conference.
- 0:34Speaker 0: No, not at all.
- 0:35Speaker 0: It felt like a definitive signal.
- 0:36Speaker 0: The whole focus seems to have decisively shifted.
- 0:39Speaker 0: From
- 0:39Speaker 1: vision to execution.
- 0:40Speaker 1: That was the phrase we saw everywhere.
- 0:41Speaker 0: It's a huge shift.
- 0:43Speaker 0: I mean, the conversations weren't about these abstract promises anymore.
- 0:46Speaker 0: They were about treating capital markets, AI, and Saudi Arabia's transformation as well connected operational levers.
- 0:52Speaker 0: We're
- 0:52Speaker 1: past the... if it's going to happen.
- 0:55Speaker 1: Now it's all about the how.
- 0:55Speaker 0: Exactly.
- 0:56Speaker 0: So our goal is pretty simple.
- 0:57Speaker 0: We wanted to still the top trends that came out of FI-nine.
- 1:01Speaker 1: We've clustered them around a few key themes.
- 1:03Speaker 1: First, the new architecture of capital flows, then AI becoming actual infrastructure, and finally, the kingdom's own pivot to project delivery.
- 1:12Speaker 0: Okay, so let's jump right into that first one.
- 1:14Speaker 0: because it really does impact every valuation model out there, the new architecture of capital and private markets.
- 1:21Speaker 1: Right, and the consensus seemed to be that the old liquidity models just aren't working.
- 1:26Speaker 1: in this, you know, sustained high-rate environment we're in.
- 1:28Speaker 0: They're not, and the solution everyone was pointing to is private credit.
- 1:32Speaker 0: We've talked about it before, but FI-IX really cemented its status.
- 1:35Speaker 0: It's
- 1:36Speaker 1: the essential tool now for financing growth.
- 1:38Speaker 0: Absolutely.
- 1:39Speaker 0: But it demands discipline.
- 1:41Speaker 0: David B. Golub from Golub Capital, he really highlighted this.
- 1:44Speaker 0: He emphasized that their focus is on lending to, how did he put it?
- 1:48Speaker 1: Resilient businesses and resilient industries.
- 1:50Speaker 0: Exactly.
- 1:51Speaker 0: and crucially backed by top quality private equity sponsors.
- 1:55Speaker 0: It's a very specific risk mitigated way of deploying capital.
- 1:59Speaker 1: It's all about selectivity and strength.
- 2:02Speaker 1: And if you look at who's setting that agenda, who's deploying that capital, you have to talk about sovereign wealth funds.
- 2:08Speaker 0: They're definitely not the quiet co-investors they used to be.
- 2:11Speaker 0: Katie Cough of TCW noted they're now seen as active architects of global capital flows.
- 2:17Speaker 1: Not just passive asset owners anymore.
- 2:19Speaker 0: Not at all.
- 2:20Speaker 0: This long-term patient capital is fundamentally reshaping the investment map, you know, pushing us towards a multipolar world where regional capital really dictates the terms.
- 2:30Speaker 1: And the sheer scale of private markets in general is just staggering.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Faria and Sari Javed and some others were projecting that private capital, which is at what, It's projected to hit over twenty trillion in the next five years.
- 2:45Speaker 0: That's incredible.
- 2:46Speaker 0: It basically means if your firm isn't fluent in private capital, you're already playing yesterday's game.
- 2:51Speaker 1: So if private capital is the engine, FII showed us the new fuel.
- 2:55Speaker 1: It's sort of evolving ideology about how that capital should be deployed.
- 2:59Speaker 0: You're talking about the globalization theme.
- 3:01Speaker 0: My call, Katz, made the point that globalization is being Deliberately reshaped
- 3:06Speaker 1: especially in supply chains.
- 3:08Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not just about cost efficiency anymore.
- 3:10Speaker 1: It's about resilience and strategic advantage precisely.
- 3:13Speaker 0: and that led right into This concept being called patriotic capitalism
- 3:18Speaker 1: championed by figures like Donald Trump Jr.
- 3:20Speaker 1: And Omid Malik the core idea being to deploy capital for national strength investing in your own talent, strategic industries.
- 3:28Speaker 0: Which sounds like a pretty radical departure from just maximizing shareholder returns.
- 3:33Speaker 1: It does.
- 3:33Speaker 1: So how do you square that circle?
- 3:35Speaker 1: Investors still need to see high returns, right?
- 3:37Speaker 0: Well, that was the interesting part.
- 3:38Speaker 0: They argued very strongly that this is not isolationism.
- 3:41Speaker 0: It's about securing a strategic advantage.
- 3:43Speaker 0: It means you invest domestically or regionally where it protects or enhances your national competitive edge.
- 3:49Speaker 1: So the idea is you get superior, sustainable returns.
- 3:53Speaker 1: by aligning with the long-term national interest.
- 3:55Speaker 0: Exactly.
- 3:56Speaker 0: And to handle capital on that scale, the financial plumbing itself needs an upgrade.
- 4:00Speaker 0: This brings us to tokenization, which was a huge topic.
- 4:04Speaker 1: It was positioned as the essential financial software update.
- 4:07Speaker 1: The most definitive statement, I think, came from Larry Fink at BlackRock.
- 4:11Speaker 0: Oh, absolutely.
- 4:12Speaker 0: He basically said finance leaders are spending too much time on AI and not nearly enough on, quote, how quickly we're going to tokenize every financial asset.
- 4:21Speaker 1: he called it the next wave of opportunity.
- 4:23Speaker 1: I mean, coming from the head of the world's largest asset manager, that's a seismic statement.
- 4:28Speaker 0: It is.
- 4:28Speaker 0: And the practical consequences are all about efficiency and liquidity.
- 4:32Speaker 0: Mark Nesif and Efi Palerini detailed how it works.
- 4:35Speaker 0: You convert assets into secure digital tokens.
- 4:38Speaker 1: And the key is that it shrinks settlement times from days down to seconds.
- 4:42Speaker 0: Seconds.
- 4:42Speaker 0: It cuts out layers of intermediaries, frictional costs.
- 4:46Speaker 0: It's a massive unlock for institutional liquidity.
- 4:49Speaker 1: And this isn't just a theory, right?
- 4:50Speaker 0: No, we are well into implementation.
- 4:53Speaker 0: I mean, J.N.I.
- 4:53Speaker 0: Diamond's J.P.
- 4:54Speaker 0: Morgan is already processing billions in tokenized collateral through its Kenexi's network.
- 4:59Speaker 0: This is happening now.
- 5:01Speaker 1: where it gets really interesting.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Let's pivot to our second thing.
- 5:04Speaker 1: AI is transitioned from talk to actual hardened infrastructure.
- 5:08Speaker 0: Right.
- 5:10Speaker 0: Hussein M. Dejani and Sandy Carter both noted this clear shift at FI-IX.
- 5:15Speaker 0: It wasn't about experimenting with AI anymore.
- 5:17Speaker 0: It was about scale deployment and... Importantly, governance.
- 5:21Speaker 1: The big idea seems to be viewing compute, energy, and data as the new scarce resources.
- 5:27Speaker 1: Sandy Carter framed AI as a central national infrastructure.
- 5:31Speaker 0: Yeah, comparing it to ports or the power grid.
- 5:34Speaker 0: You just can't rely on imports for something that strategic.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Which explains Saudi Arabia's huge ambition to become an AI powerhouse.
- 5:41Speaker 1: The poo-ifes humane venture, for instance.
- 5:43Speaker 1: They're not just funding startups.
- 5:45Speaker 0: No, they're building five hundred megawatt data centers.
- 5:48Speaker 0: and developing the world's most advanced Arabic multimodal LLMs.
- 5:52Speaker 0: They want to own their AI stack.
- 5:54Speaker 1: That localization is key to controlling their own strategic data.
- 5:57Speaker 1: And the investment is real.
- 5:59Speaker 1: Eric Lozon pointed out the massive three billion dollar partnership between Humane and Blackstone backed AirTruck.
- 6:05Speaker 0: And it goes beyond just data centers.
- 6:06Speaker 0: They're into deep tech like NeuroFab, which is focused on next gen computing.
- 6:10Speaker 0: What Amir Hussein was talking about, it's an intense strategy.
- 6:13Speaker 1: So if the infrastructure is the hardware, then the human element is the software.
- 6:18Speaker 1: The conversations weren't just about silicon.
- 6:20Speaker 0: Not at all.
- 6:21Speaker 0: There was an equal focus on governing AI ethically and preparing the workforce.
- 6:26Speaker 0: Danish Nazir mentioned how Saudi Arabia is moving methodically from vision, to principles, to implementation, and then to regulation.
- 6:34Speaker 1: Creating a predictable ecosystem.
- 6:36Speaker 0: Exactly.
- 6:37Speaker 0: And even in applications like in HealthTech.
- 6:39Speaker 0: Kingsley Eye, Nudo's hero in AI is a good example of using it for personalized care.
- 6:44Speaker 0: There was a strong push for ethical guardrails.
- 6:47Speaker 1: Fifa Ali was cited as reminding everyone that technology has to keep human dignity, well-being, and agency at its core.
- 6:54Speaker 0: which is a vital check on the tech sector's, you know, move fast and break things mentality.
- 6:59Speaker 1: So AI is the new infrastructure, but the bottleneck is still human capital.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Mark Minovich talked about preparing the next generation, developing adaptive minds.
- 7:08Speaker 0: It's a huge challenge.
- 7:09Speaker 0: Haiyan Lee, the CEO of Squirrel AI, he pointed out that a third of jobs could be automated by twenty thirty.
- 7:15Speaker 0: That's from data shared by Monisha Contrapati.
- 7:17Speaker 0: A
- 7:17Speaker 1: third.
- 7:18Speaker 1: So what's the solution?
- 7:19Speaker 0: His solution is to use AI itself for personalized learning and skills-based credentialing to rapidly reskill people.
- 7:27Speaker 0: It's an urgent call to action.
- 7:29Speaker 1: Which sets the stage perfectly for our third theme.
- 7:32Speaker 1: This concentration of capital and technology brings us back to Riyadh itself.
- 7:37Speaker 1: Eduardo Masiu-Paredes said you could feel the shift from vision setting
- 7:42Speaker 0: to
- 7:42Speaker 1: concrete project delivery.
- 7:44Speaker 0: The symbolism was pretty powerful too.
- 7:47Speaker 0: Magnuson eBay pointed out the irony of the Ritz Carlton.
- 7:50Speaker 0: Once a detention site now hosting this global investment conference, it's like discipline finally catching up to the vision.
- 7:56Speaker 0: And
- 7:56Speaker 1: the PIF, the Public Investment Fund, is clearly the engine driving that execution.
- 8:02Speaker 1: We saw a really significant pivot in their strategy.
- 8:04Speaker 0: This is a key takeaway.
- 8:06Speaker 0: Rana Maristani and Omar Alinezi detailed how the PIS, what, nine hundred twenty five billion dollar war chest?
- 8:12Speaker 1: Almost a trillion dollars.
- 8:13Speaker 0: Is pivoting away from some of the longer term real estate ventures.
- 8:16Speaker 0: Yeah.
- 8:16Speaker 0: Gene Abilama put it as less neo, more scaffolding.
- 8:19Speaker 1: Towards what though?
- 8:20Speaker 1: Towards
- 8:20Speaker 0: high yield strategic investments.
- 8:22Speaker 0: They're targeting an aggressive seven and a half to eight percent annualized return.
- 8:26Speaker 0: That
- 8:26Speaker 1: is a very high target.
- 8:28Speaker 1: for a sovereign fund of that size.
- 8:30Speaker 1: What is that signal?
- 8:31Speaker 0: It signals a huge demand for efficiency.
- 8:33Speaker 0: Athermobium called it shift from capital abundance to capital efficiency.
- 8:37Speaker 0: So for foreign investors, the message is clear.
- 8:40Speaker 0: The PAF is looking for partners.
- 8:41Speaker 1: But those partners have to bring projects with massive scale, strategic alignment, and the potential for those high yield returns.
- 8:48Speaker 0: Exactly.
- 8:49Speaker 0: And we're seeing tangible results.
- 8:51Speaker 0: Charles Beale was showcasing how residential communities like ROSHN are moving forward quickly.
- 8:57Speaker 0: And it's also about scaling up premium experiences.
- 9:00Speaker 1: Like in tourism, Kathy Wagstaff and Ciaran Mullen highlighted the dream of the desert, that five star luxury train set for twenty twenty six.
- 9:07Speaker 0: It's a high value experience driven strategy.
- 9:10Speaker 0: It fits the whole premium feel of the giga projects
- 9:14Speaker 1: and sustainability is a core part of that.
- 9:16Speaker 1: Beatrice Buffon mentioned how projects like AMALA are prioritizing resilient, low-carbon electricity supported by advanced battery storage.
- 9:24Speaker 0: That's built in from the ground up, though it's not without its challenges.
- 9:27Speaker 0: Riyadh Air's CEO, Tony Douglas, was very candid about how difficult meeting net zero targets in aviation is.
- 9:34Speaker 1: But the commitment is there.
- 9:36Speaker 1: And that complexity is why they're so open to partnerships.
- 9:39Speaker 1: Michael Matier detailed that collaboration between Namco and Young Ventures.
- 9:43Speaker 0: Right, a one hundred million dollar fund to bring twenty innovative companies in science and next-gen energy into Saudi Arabia, they're essentially co-investing to acquire strategic capability.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Which leads us right into our final theme.
- 9:56Speaker 1: The maturation of the whole VC and entrepreneurship ecosystem.
- 10:01Speaker 1: Philippa Hoshi said the renaissance startup scene is past just experimenting.
- 10:05Speaker 1: It's attracting serious international attention now.
- 10:08Speaker 0: And the numbers are there.
- 10:09Speaker 0: Nor Swede pointed out that the Saudi venture ecosystem hit a record, one point three billion dollars raised by September.
- 10:16Speaker 1: Which is tremendous velocity.
- 10:18Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:18Speaker 1: But it also reveals where the opportunity is for investors.
- 10:21Speaker 0: The opportunity is in the gap.
- 10:22Speaker 0: Despite that growth, there's still a one point four billion dollar funding gap compared to say, series B financing in the US.
- 10:30Speaker 1: So strong at the seed stage.
- 10:32Speaker 1: but a need for late-stage growth equity to scale those regional champions.
- 10:36Speaker 0: Exactly.
- 10:37Speaker 0: That Series B gap is a huge signal to global growth investors, and the potential is there.
- 10:42Speaker 0: Just look at the story of Move, the mobility fintech from Lagos.
- 10:46Speaker 1: Right.
- 10:46Speaker 1: Ibrahim Sagna and Dina Kamal detailed how they've scaled globally across five continents.
- 10:52Speaker 1: It shows the ambition is there.
- 10:54Speaker 0: We're also seeing VCs getting more specialized.
- 10:57Speaker 0: Jan Lozek noted that deep tech demands more expertise and much longer time horizons than a typical sauce model.
- 11:04Speaker 1: You need patient tailored capital.
- 11:06Speaker 0: And private equity is changing too.
- 11:08Speaker 0: Right.
- 11:08Speaker 0: Sarah Ronas said the focus is shifting to applying tech where the region has a competitive edge fintech, prop tech climate solutions.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Which is why James Varela summed it up so well.
- 11:17Speaker 1: The PE narrative is no longer by fixed cell.
- 11:21Speaker 0: It's bi-transform embed.
- 11:23Speaker 0: It's a structural re-engineering of the business, not just a financial flip.
- 11:26Speaker 1: So this whole deep dive really confirms one powerful insight.
- 11:30Speaker 1: FI-IX showed the world has entered what Nedam Bolzon called the era of execution.
- 11:35Speaker 1: Where
- 11:35Speaker 0: capital, technology, and purpose all have to converge to get results.
- 11:39Speaker 0: Eric Lausanne put it perfectly.
- 11:41Speaker 0: The kingdom isn't just attracting investment, it's architecting the future of it.
- 11:45Speaker 1: And the biggest takeaway, the thing for professionals to really focus on comes from Amith Jade.
- 11:51Speaker 1: He said the most successful leaders in the next decade will be the ones who can bridge that gap between purpose, plus innovation, plus capital, plus policy.
- 12:00Speaker 0: That integration is the new roadmap.
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