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Understanding Mineral Deficiency & Metal Toxicity with Jeff Lioon | The Holistic Pharmacy Podcast · Pharmacy Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: You are listening to the global network of podcasters dedicated
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  Speaker 1: to the pharmacy profession. Welcome to the Pharmacy podcast Network.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to the Holistic Pharmacy Podcast. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 2: Marina books of and I'm a functional medicine pharmacist in
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  Speaker 2: New York. I'm also a clinical herbalist and an integrative
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  Speaker 2: health coach specializing in mindfulness and empowerment. I'm on a
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  Speaker 2: mission to transform the way we approach healthcare by bridging
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  Speaker 2: the wisdom of traditional medicine with modern practice, and in
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  Speaker 2: this podcast, I will be highlighting guests who do just that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm constantly inspired by them and I know you will
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  Speaker 2: be as well.
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  Speaker 3: Hello everybody, Welcome back to another episode of the Holistic
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  Speaker 3: Pharmacy Podcast. I have another amazing guest for you in
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  Speaker 3: store today. His name is Jeff Leone. I hope I'm
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  Speaker 3: pronouncing that right, Jeff, and he's been using the Oligo
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  Speaker 3: scan for the past nine years. He's tested over seven
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  Speaker 3: thousand people with the device and his mission has been
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  Speaker 3: to disprove the Aligo scan and after correlating the reports
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  Speaker 3: with what people tell him about their symptoms and health conditions,
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  Speaker 3: the test is almost always spot on. His passion is
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  Speaker 3: to help people understand the root cause of disease, and
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  Speaker 3: that always starts with minerals and metals. So, without further ado, welcome.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff, thank you, thanks for having on the show.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, it's so great to have you.
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  Speaker 3: We met this year at the Integrated Healthcare Symposium here
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  Speaker 3: in New York City where I'm based, and I was
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  Speaker 3: super impressed and drawn to your booth and I was
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  Speaker 3: able to get tested right there on the spot. It
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  Speaker 3: was not invasive, as quick, I got a whole report,
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  Speaker 3: and so I was really curious to hear about this
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  Speaker 3: technology and more detail and how it can be applicable
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  Speaker 3: to pharmacies.
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  Speaker 5: And healthcare in general.
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  Speaker 3: And so before we get into all of that, I'd
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  Speaker 3: love to hear your personal story and how you got
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  Speaker 3: into this work.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so my father, my grandfather, and my godfather all
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  Speaker 4: started Douglas Labs back in the eighties. So as a kid,
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  Speaker 4: I was just surrounded by alternative health nutrition pretty much
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  Speaker 4: my whole life. So they grew that company and then
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  Speaker 4: they eventually exited. But you know, as a kid, I
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  Speaker 4: would come home to boxes of supplements and our cabinet,
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  Speaker 4: our kitchen, pantry was just full of supplements, so I
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  Speaker 4: was always looking at the bottles and researching them. And
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  Speaker 4: I would go into my dad's office and he just
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  Speaker 4: had books piled to the all on the walls, so
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  Speaker 4: I would just grab books. And the subject really interested
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  Speaker 4: me at a young age, so I read a lot
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  Speaker 4: and anyway, so I just went to college like a
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  Speaker 4: normal person. I always wanted to do something with health,
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  Speaker 4: but I kind of folks more in finance, and to
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  Speaker 4: kind of keep the long story short, after my dad
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  Speaker 4: sold Douglas, he got introduced to a Lego scan before
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  Speaker 4: it was on the market, and I had one of
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  Speaker 4: these devices and I was scanning myself like every six months,
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  Speaker 4: and the report looked really bad, and I didn't really
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  Speaker 4: believe in it. At first. I was like, there's no
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  Speaker 4: way this is accurate. I'm pretty healthy. So I kept
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  Speaker 4: scanning myself and I kept seeing bad results. And meanwhile,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'm in college, so I'm binge, drinking, I'm partying,
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  Speaker 4: stressing for exams, eating dining hall food. So I kept
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  Speaker 4: testing myself but kept seeing the same results, and one
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  Speaker 4: day I was eventually like, Okay, like maybe this is
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  Speaker 4: actually like revealing, like what's going on and I need
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  Speaker 4: to address it. So because I was having some health
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  Speaker 4: symptoms but nothing crazy. So fast forward, I'm in New
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  Speaker 4: York City. I'm working a corporate job that I really like,
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  Speaker 4: not in this space, and pretty much got to the
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  Speaker 4: point where it was burned out, and I decided to
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  Speaker 4: go down to Peru and sit with ayahuasca. And my
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  Speaker 4: biggest takeaway from that experience was that I needed to
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  Speaker 4: be doing something more aligned with my health. So I
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  Speaker 4: came back and this is right when COVID started. Came
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  Speaker 4: back with my job, left New York City, and was
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  Speaker 4: determined to align myself with something in alternative health and wellness.
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  Speaker 4: And that really was the beginning of my journey. I
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  Speaker 4: kept testing myself with the illegal scan and I saw
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  Speaker 4: my results starting to change. But what really made the
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  Speaker 4: light bulb go off, so to speak, was reading The
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  Speaker 4: Carnivore Code by Paul Cladino. I read that book, I
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  Speaker 4: knew that it resonated with me and kind of what
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  Speaker 4: I believed. I tried the carnivore diet for thirty days
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  Speaker 4: and my report like drastically got better. And I think
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  Speaker 4: the real reason was because of the elimination of some
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  Speaker 4: foods that are more laden with chemicals and pesticides, but
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  Speaker 4: also the introduction of organ meets into my diet and
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  Speaker 4: that really, I mean, I saw my VI vitamins to
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  Speaker 4: my zac and my copper all just skyrocket. So that
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  Speaker 4: was like the proof of the pudding for me. And
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  Speaker 4: since then I've been scanningans of people with the device
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  Speaker 4: and that ultimately brought me to a Lego scan and yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's kind of brought me today.
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  Speaker 5: Amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I always find it fascinating that usually something in
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  Speaker 3: our personal life or a friend or family members will
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  Speaker 3: be that trigger, that catalyst that has us look deeper
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  Speaker 3: beyond conventional medicine, because unfortunately, conventional medicine does not have
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  Speaker 3: all the answers, and sometimes it even can cause further
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  Speaker 3: injury or damage or trauma or side effects that then
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  Speaker 3: you know, we have to deal with.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, I always find the story very very important.
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  Speaker 3: And so how did you then partner with Aligo Scan
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  Speaker 3: and what are you doing there today?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so my dad's been the global disugar for the
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  Speaker 4: past fifteen years, so before it came to market. Since
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  Speaker 4: my dad grew Douglas in Europe, he was connected with
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  Speaker 4: a lot of European doctors. So after he you know,
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  Speaker 4: exited Douglas and it basically, you know, it was like
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  Speaker 4: semi retired after his non compete contract was up. He
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  Speaker 4: went over to Europe and met the founder of the
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  Speaker 4: Legal Scan and they became partners. So my dad's been
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  Speaker 4: running it for fifteen years. And you know, I really
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  Speaker 4: wanted to go out in the real world and gain
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  Speaker 4: my own business experience and gain my own perspective on life.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm really glad I did that. But after using
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  Speaker 4: the Illegal Scan personally and after seeing testing other people
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  Speaker 4: and seeing the correlations which I can get into later,
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  Speaker 4: I kind of knew that this was this was what
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  Speaker 4: I needed to focus on, and it was sitting in
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  Speaker 4: front of me the whole time, but I needed the context.
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  Speaker 4: I needed the life experience to see it like in action.
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  Speaker 4: For example, part of my journey was I really wanted
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  Speaker 4: to get closer to my food, and after I did
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  Speaker 4: the carnivore diet, I actually got interested in not only
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  Speaker 4: going to meet farmers and seeing how they were raising
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  Speaker 4: their animals, but I got into hunting and I actually
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  Speaker 4: moved to Hawaii and was hunting wild rams for this
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  Speaker 4: rancher and you know, learned how to hunt, I learned
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  Speaker 4: how to process the animal. I learned how to basically
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  Speaker 4: take the animal, you know, live animal to meat on
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  Speaker 4: your table in the different cuts. So it really, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it got me really ingrained on like where's the food
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  Speaker 4: actually coming from, and not just meat, but also fruits
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  Speaker 4: and vegetables, and what are people spraying on the fruits
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  Speaker 4: and vegetables, how are they growing it, what are they
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  Speaker 4: using as fertilizer, so all these things really play a
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  Speaker 4: role in it. And that was really that allowed me
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  Speaker 4: to just gain a bigger perspective into why people are
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  Speaker 4: mineral deficient and heavy metal toxic versus not. So there's
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  Speaker 4: it's there's a lot of different parts of the equation.
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  Speaker 4: But that also really fascinated me because food and water
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  Speaker 4: is really you know, that is the reason we eat
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  Speaker 4: is for minerals in vitamins. But minerals are you know,
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  Speaker 4: minerals are the cofactors for the production of antioxidants, vitamins, proteins,
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  Speaker 4: fatty acids, enzymes, hormones. So without minerals, your body can't
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  Speaker 4: make all those different things. So it's really the core
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  Speaker 4: of our health in my opinion, I mean, it's part
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  Speaker 4: of the major core of why we consume food, and
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  Speaker 4: that always fascinated me. So I think if we can
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  Speaker 4: establish the baseline, then the body can heal itself. That's
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  Speaker 4: my main premise.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, It is so.
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  Speaker 3: Foundational that food and water and the air we breathe,
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  Speaker 3: everything around us, our environment really does create the picture
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  Speaker 3: of health or disease as we were talking about, and
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  Speaker 3: more and more I'm seeing that collectively we have to
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  Speaker 3: start paying attention because just like you said, the average
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  Speaker 3: person probably doesn't really wonder what's the farm to table,
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  Speaker 3: Like what's the process like of getting the food that
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  Speaker 3: we're actually eating in front of us, and like how
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  Speaker 3: many steps it had to go through, and what it
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  Speaker 3: was exposed to and what we are exposed to by
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  Speaker 3: consuming those things. And so it really does take that
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  Speaker 3: intentionality to unwrap all these little pieces to the puzzle
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  Speaker 3: and to then understand how our individual behavior is influencing
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  Speaker 3: and driving some of the things that are then marketed
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  Speaker 3: back to us.
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  Speaker 5: And so we really have.
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  Speaker 3: To start unraveling. I think for better health care, for
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  Speaker 3: better preventative care, for better public care, everybody has to
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  Speaker 3: start thinking about how are these things actually making it
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  Speaker 3: into our foundational day to day and how can we
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  Speaker 3: change that so that we're not relying on so many
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  Speaker 3: supplements or drugs or surgeries when our foundations are right.
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  Speaker 3: And your story is actually very interesting too, because it
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  Speaker 3: reminds me of the story about the prodigal Sun that
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  Speaker 3: goes and the returns or the alchemists, right when it's
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  Speaker 3: like you have to kind of see what else is
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  Speaker 3: out there, but then returning to your roots and seeing
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  Speaker 3: like how can I enjoy my life right here or
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  Speaker 3: even Buddha right how can I actually implement what I've
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  Speaker 3: learned and take it back to my hometown and then
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  Speaker 3: recognize the treasures that are already in front of me.
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  Speaker 3: So how has that played out? And what role did
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  Speaker 3: Aligo scan have in that for you?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? So, I mean honestly the first two years, like
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  Speaker 4: it's taken me time to understand and interpret the test report,
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  Speaker 4: you know, at the first couple of years, like I
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  Speaker 4: wasn't comfortable like interpreting the report because I had no
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  Speaker 4: idea what I was looking at. And more importantly, I
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  Speaker 4: had no idea between the antagonist synergist relationships of metals
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  Speaker 4: and minerals, you know, because minerals and metals are both elements.
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  Speaker 4: Elements have relationships with one another. So I'm very grateful
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  Speaker 4: and fortunate that I had a lot of great mentors
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  Speaker 4: along the way that I learned from. So I really
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  Speaker 4: spent the first two years learning. You know, doctor John Gamble,
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  Speaker 4: he's one of our nature paths in Australia. He wrote
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  Speaker 4: a book called Mastering Chronic Disease, Toxicity, Deficiency and Infection.
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  Speaker 4: I learned a lot from him. I learned a lot
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  Speaker 4: from doctor Raymond Palpletz, he's a clinical metal topsychologist in
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  Speaker 4: the Netherlands. I learned a lot from Michael Fesler. He's
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  Speaker 4: he's the founder of Erbaliz Restoratives. They make like salves
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  Speaker 4: that you basically put on your skin to help trans
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  Speaker 4: germally pull out the metals. And then I did a
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  Speaker 4: lot of self research. I did a lot of reading.
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  Speaker 4: I've always been an avid reader. I love to read, so
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  Speaker 4: it's been a lot of research. But after a couple
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  Speaker 4: of years of going through these reports and one of
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  Speaker 4: the benefits that I've that I have is I've gotten
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  Speaker 4: to test so many people. So I would go to
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  Speaker 4: these trade shows and test you know, two hundred and
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  Speaker 4: three hundred people, and you know, I like I, like
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  Speaker 4: you mentioned at the beginning, my goal has always been
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  Speaker 4: to disprove it. I mean not in the sense that
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  Speaker 4: like I'm trying to prove it wrong per se. But
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  Speaker 4: you know, I wanted to be I wanted I want
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  Speaker 4: to I want the test to validate itself to me
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  Speaker 4: based on what the person's actually telling me. So how
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  Speaker 4: I do that is I look at the report and
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  Speaker 4: I start asking a bunch of questions because I'm trying
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  Speaker 4: to see if the report is actually reflecting what they
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  Speaker 4: are telling me they're going through. And I've done that
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  Speaker 4: a lot of times, and it's really you know, it's
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  Speaker 4: probably ninety percent of the time it's spot on. The
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  Speaker 4: ten percent of the time where it's not, is that
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  Speaker 4: likely it's Number one, it's not a metal problem. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it could be a chemical, it could be something different.
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  Speaker 4: Number two, though it's it's the toxicity is likely not
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  Speaker 4: in the peripheral tissue, right, you know, the illegal scan
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  Speaker 4: is only looking at the peripheral tissue of the hand.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we use it as a proxy for the
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  Speaker 4: whole body because if it's high on the intracellular level
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  Speaker 4: in the hand, it's likely going to be high in
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  Speaker 4: the rest of the body. But it's not perfect, right,
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  Speaker 4: it's not telling us the amount of lead in the bones,
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  Speaker 4: or cabmium in the kidneys, or mercury in the heart,
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  Speaker 4: or aluminum in the brain. The only way to know
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  Speaker 4: how much of those of a metal is in that organ,
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  Speaker 4: it's going to take a biopacy of that tissue. Well,
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  Speaker 4: nobody really wants to do that, so it's the next
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  Speaker 4: best thing. And you know, the light is shining through
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  Speaker 4: the cells, the blood and the inner social space, which
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  Speaker 4: is the beginning of the lymphatic network, so it has
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  Speaker 4: to the light has to penetrate at least one cell membrane.
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  Speaker 4: So we're getting an understanding for intracellular levels in the
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  Speaker 4: cerpheral tissue of the hand, and that's really the premise
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  Speaker 4: of it. But yeah, I mean there's a lot of
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  Speaker 4: different clues that we can look into based on the report.
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  Speaker 4: You know, what minerals are low, what metals are high.
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  Speaker 4: You know, is the person exposed to this certain heavy
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  Speaker 4: metal and we can ask questions about that, right, we
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  Speaker 4: can investigate the whole life. And sometimes it becomes difficult
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  Speaker 4: because this test is really reflecting since they were born,
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  Speaker 4: all the way until this moment in time and everything
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  Speaker 4: in between. You know, it's not just looking at the
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  Speaker 4: past two weeks, right, We are a combination of all
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  Speaker 4: the decisions we've made since the beginning. So it's really
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  Speaker 4: looking at the whole life. So sometimes it takes a
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  Speaker 4: little bit of work to go back in time and
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  Speaker 4: try to identify, you know, what kind of water was
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  Speaker 4: I drinking? You did I have anyuries where it was
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  Speaker 4: on medications as a kid? Was I on the standard
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  Speaker 4: American diet as a kid? You know, if somebody's eating
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  Speaker 4: standard American diet from age five to fifteen, ten years right,
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  Speaker 4: and they're getting they're eating a bunch of processed food,
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  Speaker 4: they're eating microwave food, and they're getting an overabundance of cadmium,
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  Speaker 4: for example, which is a common metal found in a
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  Speaker 4: lot of processed food. They're getting a lot of cadmium
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  Speaker 4: it's coming in, but they're not getting a lot of zinc.
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  Speaker 4: The body is going to absorb that cadmium because zinc
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  Speaker 4: and cadmium are very very related. They're very close to
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  Speaker 4: another in structure, but on an enzymatic level, the body
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  Speaker 4: is going to suffer because it needs zinc. It doesn't
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  Speaker 4: want cadmium, but all it has is cadmium, so it's
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  Speaker 4: going to absorb it. So there's things like that that
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  Speaker 4: we can look into. But that's a that's a pretty
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  Speaker 4: common one. You know, mineral deficiency can really can really
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  Speaker 4: start as a kid if they're not getting the adequate minerals.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you for that. And on a technology level,
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  Speaker 5: you mentioned that.
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  Speaker 3: The device uses photo spectrometry rate and so how does
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  Speaker 3: that give us an accurate picture of what the minerals
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  Speaker 3: and metals are in our body, and like what the
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  Speaker 3: cumulative aspect is and how does it compare it to
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  Speaker 3: other standardized tests.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so spectral photometry is all about light. It's been
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  Speaker 4: used for decades across various different industries. Apparently, it's even
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  Speaker 4: the technology that they used to analyze the crust of
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  Speaker 4: other planets. It's light. So metals and minerals are both elements.
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  Speaker 4: Every element has a different color. That color is determined
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  Speaker 4: by its atomic emission spectra. So what we do is
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  Speaker 4: we shine the full visible light spectrum into the peripheral
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  Speaker 4: tissue of the hand, and we're basically measuring the momentum
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  Speaker 4: change of light, how much that light was reflected and
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  Speaker 4: absorbed back to give as an idea if the minerals
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  Speaker 4: low or if the metals an excess, based on the
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  Speaker 4: reference ranges that were established. So the first ten years
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  Speaker 4: of the Illegal scan, before it came to market, a
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  Speaker 4: Brazilian scientist was basically testing people and establishing these reference
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  Speaker 4: ranges using statistical Galsian methods. So that's that's basically how
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  Speaker 4: the technology works. How it does it comparative blood, heir
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  Speaker 4: and urine. So blood is you know, you take a
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  Speaker 4: blood draw, you're looking at basically what's in circulation. The
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  Speaker 4: blood is the transportation system of nutrients. Right, if I
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  Speaker 4: eat or drink or breathe in air, right, metals are
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  Speaker 4: going to come in to some capacity. The body is
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  Speaker 4: going to either detox them out like it's designed to do.
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  Speaker 4: But if the detox pathways become blocked or less efficient,
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  Speaker 4: the body, if it can't detox the metal out, it's
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  Speaker 4: going to story It's going to put it because it's
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  Speaker 4: got to do something with it, so it's going to
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  Speaker 4: put it in the tissue. So a blood test is
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  Speaker 4: really only looking at what's in circulation. It's not giving
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  Speaker 4: us an idea of what's accumulated. You know, the body
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  Speaker 4: wants to keep the blood in homeostasis, does not want
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  Speaker 4: high mercury in the blood. But there might be high
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  Speaker 4: mercury in the blood if you ate a piece of
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  Speaker 4: swordfish last night for dinner, or if you have a
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  Speaker 4: dental mercury filling that's leeching into your body, it's going
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  Speaker 4: to be in the bloodstream, So that's blood. Hair is
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  Speaker 4: looking at what the body's excreting via the hair in
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  Speaker 4: the past ninety days. It's looking at excretion. You know,
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  Speaker 4: Doctor Butar, they're an amazing well he actually testified to
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  Speaker 4: Congress in two thousands, and you can read this online,
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  Speaker 4: but he basically gave two hair tests, one to normal children,
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  Speaker 4: one to autistic children. And what he saw was that
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  Speaker 4: all of the normal kids had metals in the hair,
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  Speaker 4: and all of the autistic kids, like they had very
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: low levels coming out in the hair. And what does
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: that tell us. That tells us that we actually want
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: to excreete metals in the hair. It's a sign that
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: the person's excreting. But these autistic children had no metals
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: coming out in the hair. So hair is looking at
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: excretion capability. But it's not looking at what the bodies
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: accumulating necessarily, same with urine. Urine is looking at what
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: the body is excreting via the kidneys, you know, provoked
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: or unprovoked. So they're all different tests. They're all really
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: looking at different vectors of the body. You know. I
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: tell people it's not that one is better than another
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: because they're all looking at different things, you know. I
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: use the Illego scan to help paint another picture and
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: understand what is what is the body actually absorbing, what's
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: bioavailable for the body to use, or what is accumulated
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: from years of toxicity or exposure.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: And quick question, why is the hand used?
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Is that just because of ease or doesn't matter which
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: body part is being scanned?
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, great question. We use the hand because it's the
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: only place in the body besides the foot, where the
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: pigments the same across all races and ethnicities, so it's standardized.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: That's why we use the hand.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's convenience.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, anybody can just go and put their hand on
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: the device and I can a test.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: It's very very easy. So yeah, that's amazing.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think using a combination of the test
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: and like you said, questioning of personal history will give
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: us more of an idea of what the risk factors
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: are and if the tests are accurate or if there's further.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: Testing and questioning that needs to be done.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: So let's like walk through a scenario, right, Like a
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: person goes and gets the scan, what can they hope
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: to discover and what are the next steps for them?
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know, what we're doing is we're looking
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: at minerals, vitamins, heavy metals, and we're basically looking for,
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: you know, are is the trend? I love it the
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: overall trend. Are the minerals trending low deficient, or are
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: the minerals trending high? Which is this term called a
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: blockade or a false positive. You know, it doesn't always
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: mean that they're getting too much of that mineral. Let's
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: call it lithium. Example, there's probably a very very good
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: chance that if the lithium is high, they're not getting
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: too much lithium from their diet. But that lithium is
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: high because it's being displaced, it's being lost to the
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: peripheral tissue, usually by a metal like barium. You know,
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: and barium comes from root canals, So if I go
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: to the dentist and they say you need a root canal,
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: and but we can't do it for a week. They
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: add barium. I think it's hydroxide or I'm probably missing
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: that one, but they add some form of steeler on
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: the root canal. It contains barium. And I see it
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: all the time, you know, when I see the high barium,
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: I asked, like, have you had a root canal? Yeah,
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: I had a couple in the barium's high. I was
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: at a show last weekend and this woman told me
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: that she had a nickel retainer in her mouth for
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: like twenty years. And she told me that the dentist
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: told her that she needed to get it removed because
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: it was a nickel retainer. And I scanned her and
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: the nickel was high. So there's I can go over
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: ten other examples of this. So you know, mercury fillings,
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: you know, if you've had them in your mouth for ten, fifteen,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: twenty years, the mercury is likely going to be high.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: Sometimes it's also the silver is high, because every amalgam
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: filling is different. Could be mercury, could be silver, could
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: be nickel. I was in Miami for a trade show,
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: and I tested three Pruvian models and I scanned all
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: of them and all their nickel was high. And I
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: was really stumped at the time because I didn't come
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: across this before. And I asked him, you know, do
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: you have a mercury fillings or a malcolm fillings And
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: they said yeah, And I said, open your mouth, because
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: I didn't see any it was all white. They open
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: their mouth and it's all white. So I asked, my
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: biological dentis fran and I'm like, what's going on here?
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: He said, yeah, It's called porcelain fuse to metal, so
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: the inside is nickel and they coat the outside with
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: porcelain because they're models and they don't want to paste
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: full of metal. So sure enough, all three of these
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: women had a high nickel. You know, Fluoride is another one,
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Florid toothpaste, Florida water. You'll see the fluoride high, You'll
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: see the iodine low. You know, the three halogens are
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: chlorine bromide and chlorine bromide fluorid. So the halogens are
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: notorious for blocking the absorption of not only vitamin D
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: but I die. So you see all these different trends
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: and that this has been part of my journey of
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: validating the Allego scan personally. Is you know, if I
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: can't go to a lab and get a biopsy of
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: the hand tissue and compare it to the Ollego scan,
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: which I've tried to do, it's just very difficult because
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: not a lot of people want to volunteer for that.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: I'm going to at least take it the other level
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: and try to get as many of these reports correlated
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: with what the person's actually told me, and that's what
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: I've done. So yeah, there's all kinds of different common
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: trends that I see because a lot of us are
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: exposed to the same metals or the same habits or
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: eating the same kinds of food. But overall, I'm looking
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: for what minerals are low and what metals are high.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: And there's a difference between mineral deficiency from lack of
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: nutrition and or mineral deficiency from a toxicity. Right, So
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: metals block the absorption of particular minerals, So aluminum is
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: going to impact silica, magnesium, lithium, boron Cadmium is notorious
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: for preventing zinc and chromium absorption. Mercury is the most
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: insidious metal it's going to It can affect phosphorus, selenium, zinc, benign,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: vitamin D. Then there's other ones like gadolinium, which is
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: really interesting. It's the contrast agent. It's used in MRIs.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: It's called the glow in the dark agent.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: Most people don't just get gatallinium toxic, right, They usually
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: you get this MRI done with contrast and then I
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: see it highlands on the scant. Now there is I
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: have had reports come back to say some gadolinium is
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: getting into the water because these hospitals are just flushing
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: it down the sewage. I'm assuming that most municipalities would
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: probably take that out in the water treatment. But still
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: they're all kinds of different sources now, just because we're
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: living in this industrial technological world. But yeah, that's that's
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: pretty much. My main objective is to identify why is
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: the mineral low and how do we address it moving forward?
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: So if somebody comes and gets tested and they get
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: whatever report, maybe something is concerning, what are the next
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: steps like how do they follow up figure out what
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: the cause is and maybe get some kind of intervention.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So We've got about six hundred clinics in the US.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: It varies from ivy spas, mds, nature paths, homeopaths, holistic medicine,
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: functional medicine, med spas, all kinds of different practice, health coaches,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: all kinds of different people. So, you know, I train
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: the clinics and practitioners on how do you interpret the test?
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: What are you looking at? So most of the practitioners
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: should have a decent idea also, you know, with their
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: own health experience and detoxification experience on how to address it.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: You know, it's really not rocket science, right, Mineral deficiency
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: metal toxicity. First we have to establish why is the
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: person mineral deficient? And the easiest, best free advice I
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: can give is you go to a site called chronometer
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: dot com and you basically keep a food diary for
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: one or two days, and you really want to do
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: it accurately and honestly, and you type in everything you
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: eat for a typical day, and you go to the
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: bottom and you see what percentage of the RDA you're
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: hitting for particular minerals like zinc, like chromium, like magnesium,
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: like selenium, like copper, like iron, And if you're only
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: getting fifty percent of the zinc and thirty percent of
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: the selenium, thirty percent of the chromium that you need
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: according to the RDA, and you extrapolate that over two weeks,
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: two months, two years, you've got a mineral efficiency because
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: you're not getting adequate minerals from your food. So that is,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: you know, the first thing you do is you establish that,
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: you know, and if they're only getting those minimum percentages,
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: you got to change something. You either got to add
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: you got to add in the right foot foods, or
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: you've got to supplement supplement. But I always advocate for
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: adding in the real foods because real food is you know,
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: that is nutrition. So that's number one. Number two is
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: we have to ask ourselves if the person has a
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: lot of metal accumulation, are they excreting? You know? And
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: really I tell people, like the easiest way to tell
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: if you're excreting versus not excreting, you know, because we're
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: all born. We're all born most of us ninety nine
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: point nine percent of people are born with the ability
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: to excrete metals. Right, It's part of God's gift to
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: us is we're going to excrete what doesn't serve us.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: So over time. My hypothesis is basically people stop excreting
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: because the detoxification pathways become blocked. Now, what causes that.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: It could be mineral deficiency, it could be genetic polymorphisms,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: it could be too much of a metal is overburdening
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: the body, and the body can't keep up with detoxification
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: at the rate that the metal is coming in. You know,
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: it's probably a combination of all these things. But a
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: non excreeter is somebody that's not excreting, and non excreens
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: are usually carrying a lot of excess fat. And basically
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: what happens, in my opinion, is that the body gets
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: to this point where it can't detox the rate that
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: the metals coming in, and the body says, Okay, we
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: can't get rid of it. We've got to do something
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: with it. We've got to put it in the fat issue,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: because you'd rather have the metal in the fat tissue
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: than in the heart or the kidneys or deliver I mean,
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: the body is going to you know, it's probably going
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: to put them in both, but it's going to put
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: it in the fat isssue. So I think one of
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: the reasons why it's so hard for some people to
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: lose weight is because their detox pathways are blocked and
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: the body is as hard as they try to lose
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: the weight, the body is not going to release that
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: fat because the metals are in the fat, toxins are
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: in the fat, and the body is not going to
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: just lose the weight to redistribute the metals if the
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: detox pathways are blocked. So, really, we need to address
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: the detox pathways. You know, the kidneys deliver, the skin,
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: the gut, you know, those are really you know, these
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: are all just fundamental things, but these are all different
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: functions and systems in the body that we need to
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: get higher efficiency. You know, if the liver is only
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: operating at thirty forty percent, how do we expect the
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: body to detox metals. So I really try to address
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: all those different systems in the body, and I try
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: to I try to understand the symptoms that the person's experiencing.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: What is the body telling the person, and what is
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: the body trying to communicate that's wrong with the body
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: that we need to address.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you, Jeff.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: This is a huge topic, and I feel like there's
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: so many misconceptions too about detoxification and what's needed and
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: all these cleanses that are also advertised, and then there's
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: talk about collation and different solvents and agents. So can
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: you talk a little bit about some myth busting and
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: like briefly just go over the fundamentals and if it
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: is possible to detox naturally so to speak, or like
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: what extreme measures should we be looking at?
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, totally. So I'm not the one all sorts of truth.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: I'm just speaking from my experience in my perspective. So
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: I'm sure other people have other opinions on this, and
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: that's great. I think we need to all collaborate and
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: not really compete with one another. But you know, my
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: philosophy on this is that the human body is fully
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: capable of healing itself and detoxing and detoxification is part
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: of that. Right, So if a person's not detoxing, we
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: need to understand why. So you know a big part
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: of that, the core of that is is the person moving, right?
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: Like are they sedentary or are they moving? Are they
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: getting adequate sunlight? Right? And you know, do they understand
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: that this concept of the different Fitzpatrick's scores, Right, I'm
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: not telling somebody that has a number one, Fitzpatrick to
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: go lay in the sun for eight hours a day. Right,
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: that's just not using common sense. But I am telling
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: them that they still need to incorporate the sun into
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: their diet or into their lifestyle because truly light is
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: the source of all life. We need light. Most people
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: are getting the wrong type of light, the blue light
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: at night and not add it, but sunlight. So light, water,
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: and magnetism is a huge part of this. We have
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: to address all three of those. That's just that's the
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: core foundation. Light water, is the water clean that we're
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: bathing in? Or is the water and also that we're
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: drinking obviously, or is it loaded with metals and pharmaceutical
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: metabolites and toxins. And then magnetism is a huge one
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: as well. You know, are we grounded to the earth
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: or are we living twenty stories high and not touching
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: the bare feet to the ground daily? Are we living
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: under a power line? Are we living next to a
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: five G tower? Are we you know, what's our relationship
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: with our phone? Like? Are we sleeping with our phone
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: next to our head? Is our WiFi router on when
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: we go to bed? So all these things play a role.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: I mean there's an amazing book called The Invisible Rainbow
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: by Arthur Fistenberg, and it's like this thick but it's
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: one of those books where you can't put it down
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: when you started. I think I got through it in
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: like a week. I was so ingrained in this book
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: and it was just amazing. But talks all about non
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: native electromagnetic radiations impact on the digestion of proteins, fats,
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: and carbohydrates, and if you look back in history, all
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: of the major advancements in technology have led to these
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: massive outbreaks of diseases. So it's really interesting. I think
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: it's great perspective for people to at least wrap their
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: head around because it plays an impact in our health.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: So lightwater magnetism is the core. But also after that,
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: I would say diet. You know, diet is going to
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: be key. And then you know moving is the lymphatic
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: system stagnant. Are we moving the body? Another one, probably
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: the most important, is are we sweating because sweat perspiration
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: is the definition of excretion. We're extreting. You know, it's
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: so important because we're increasing the core body temperature, which
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: is going to activate heat shock proteins, which basically go
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: around our body and like scavengers and then we're sweating
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: that out with the sauna. So people always ask me, like,
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: what's the best kind of sauna? Well, any sauna that
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: you're going to break a sweat it. I mean I
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: personally just like a dry sauna. But in today's day,
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: in today's day and age, like, it's just like a
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: non negotiable. That's just like the baseline is sweating at
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: least four times a week in a sauna. It's like
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: one of the best health health tips I can give
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: is sona. And obviously, like you know, know your limitations
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: start slow. Don't just sit in a two hundred degree
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: sauna for forty minutes. You know that's not the first
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: time you do it. It's not that's not smart, use
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: common sense. But I think sauna is one of the
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: best song is one of the best ways to help
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: the body do its job.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And could you give us any safety tips
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: on how to approach this safely as far as like
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: making sure that we're not detoxifying too fast as well,
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: like what what should we watch out for? Is there
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: any supplement that you'd recommend to make sure that we
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: are actually getting it out of circulation and excreting the metals.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So you know there's a lot of cleanses
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: out there, there's a lot of all kinds of different supplements, binders,
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: all kinds of different things to address dejostigation. There's kelation,
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: there's keylating agents. You know, I'm not a doctor, so
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: I'm not giving I can't give medical advice. I can
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: only steer people in direction and share my experience. But
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: you know, kelation therapy can work for people, right. Healating
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: agents are basically going to pull up the metals, they're
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: going to move them. Depending on their half life, they're
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: going to move them and they're going to drop them.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: So you know, there's the famous Anti Cutler protocol method,
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: which is basically taking d M s A every four
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: hours for like four to five days and then giving
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: the body two days of break. And what that requires
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: is taking d M s A four times sort of
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: every four hours because the half life is four hours.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: So what that's doing is you're pulling metal up. You're
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: going to drop it on a You're pulling it on
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: a commander belt, and it's going to drop it. And
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: that's why you retake the d m s A, so
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: healiating agents can work. You know, they're keylating agents, but
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: you also run the risk of detoxing too much metal
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: too fast, which is going to put significant stress on
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: the kidneys. And you're also going to run the risk
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: of redistributing to metals from one part of the body
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: to another part of the body, which really is not ideal.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Having said that, I mean, there's people out there that
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: will tell you that helations saved their life. So I
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: think it's really best to go see a doctor if
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: you're going to do kelation. I don't recommend doing that
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: on your own. It's probably best to be under medical
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: supervision for that because you know, it's in my opinion,
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: it can be a little bit dangerous when you start
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: mobilizing metals. You know, it's almost like you're playing god
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: in a sense, and that's a little bit risky and
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: you don't want to hurt yourself. I personally stick with
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: more natural ways to enhance the body's natural ability to detox,
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: and you know, I think a lot of that starts
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: with what we're putting in our body. You know, what
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: we're actually putting in. We're in a little bit of
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: a disadvantage right now, because we're getting hit on a
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: bunch of different angles. You know, number one, we're getting
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: hit because the food is less mineral, has less minerals
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: in it than it did forty fifty years ago. And
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: the core reason for that is the use of phosphate fertilizer.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: You know, you can grow a plant an NPK fertilizer,
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: but it's missing all of the trace minerals because it's
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: a product of what it's being grown in. And you know,
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: if you're shopping at the supermarket, you know, if you're
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: buying food that is mass produced, it's likely being grown
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: in phosphate fertilizer and city or low grade well water,
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: and it's likely having exposure to pesticides. So but it's
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: really mineral deficient because it's not being grown in quality soil.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: So a lot of the you know, we do the
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: chronometer exercise, but you know that's just the RDA. The
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: RDA is is like the bare minimum to keep somebody alive.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: It's it's not like what we need to thrive. So
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: you've got to keep that into consideration. And you also
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: have to keep in its consideration that the FDA doesn't
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: have urda's for particular minerals like sulfur, like lithium, like boron.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: So you'll do the chronometer exercise and you're not going
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: to see those minerals on there. So you really have
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: to try to find out, Okay, what minerals are high
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: in boron, what minerals or what foods are high in lithium,
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: what foods are high in sulfur. So that becomes a
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: little bit of a challenge, but it's doable. And then
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: we have to also consider that the more metal that
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: we that we basically comes into the body, that's going
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: to require an increased need for minerals because of this
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: antagonist synergis relationship between the elements. So if I have
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: a lot of cadmium coming in, that's going to increase
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: the need for zanc and chromium. You know, Cadmium is
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: a common metal. It's found in air pollution, cigarette smoke,
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: automobile exhaust fumes, it's found in a dark chocolate is
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: notorious for a cadmium and lead. Yeah, which a lot
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: of people, probably including myself. There's a consumer reports online
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: that you can look up different brands that they tested
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: for leading academium so it's always best to go with
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: a brand that tested lower. But a lot of the
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: common brands are pretty high, so it's best just to
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: limit that overall. So yeah, we can you know, the
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: more metals we have the I'm sorry, the more metals
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: we have coming in, it's going to increase the need
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: for other minerals. And then overall, sweating is going to
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: be key, right because that's the body's natural way to detail.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: So I always to answer your question, I always try
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: to first and foremost look at the basics, get the
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: basics in check. Where can I improve on the basics?
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: You know? Do I think binders can help people? Absolutely?
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Binders are definitely gonna help people. You know, binders are
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: primarily going to get absorbed in the gut and they're
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: going to basically attach to metals and the goal is
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: to poop them out. But I don't think we should
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: be like seeing these binders is like be you know,
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: it is detoxing the metal. No, the body is going
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: to detox the metal. The binder is going to assist
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: the body to detox the metal. So you know, if
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: somebody's using a microwave or using an aluminum pot and pin,
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: you know that's the root cast the root, that's one
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: of the root causes of the source of the metal.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: So we have to address all those different sources first
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: and foremost, and then we start to look at the
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: liver and the kidneys and the gut and try to
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: assist the body and try to increase the efficiency of
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: all these different organs and systems so that the body
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: can do its job.
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: So what I'm hearing you say is again and again
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: focusing on a foundations. And there's a lot actually that
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: we can have control over in our personal choices.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: And day to day life.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: And my next question to you is like, if you
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: can give us a sustainable recommendation, Like, once you become
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: aware of the problem, right, how do we make these
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: everyday changes but not go crazy thinking like, Wow, I
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: have to change my whole lifestyle, like I'm doing everything
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: wrong and now I'm just so overwhelmed because there's just
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: so many decisions I have to now be changing.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So, I generally like to think of myself as
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: a purist in the sense that even though I was
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: raised in the household that started to self my company,
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Like I want to try to get the majority of
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: my stuff through food, right. And that's the thing about
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: these different diets, It's like, you know, they're all short term,
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: but we want to you know, we can do things
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: short term to help us get to a certain goal,
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: but the goal is really to incorporate a lifestyle where
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: we're not even having to try. I mean, we're not
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: even trying, you know. I try to like have fun
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: with this. I try not to make it like such
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: a burden, you know. So I basically try to incorporate
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: the foods that are going to give me the most nutrition,
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: and then the minerals that I can't sell that I
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: can't get through food, I'm going to try to selflement
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: with those, because you got to get them somehow. You know.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: The beautiful thing is that organ meats, avocados, raw milk.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: I mean those three foods alone. You know, beef liver
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: is going to give you so many different minerals that
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: make your chronometer look incredible compared to not organ meats.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: So I mean selenium, phosphorus, molybdenum, manganise, a lot of
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: different trace minerals. And I'm not saying you want to
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: eat this stuff every day. I'm just saying, like you know,
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: a couple of times a week is really beneficial, and
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: it's really about sourcing. You really want to try to
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: source food that's clean. Shopping at farmers' markets and supporting
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: local farm farmers and ranchers is really important. You know,
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: anytime you're buying stuff in a grocery store, it's it's
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: it's it's big agriculture. You know, there's a ton of
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: greenwashing going on in big agriculture and food, so you
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: really want to be weary of that and try to
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: support local brands or local farmers. Yeah, I mean, I
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: would always also say, like, you know, there's there are
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: going to be some minerals that it's it becomes very
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: difficult to get from food, like stilica for example. You know,
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: silica is primarily found in water, water and green beans
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: or the highest also beer. But you don't really want
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: to drink a lot of beer for silica because you're
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: also probably getting estrogens, you know, estrogens, so that's not
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: really great. We don't want to be consuming tons of
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: estrogenic food all the time, especially if you're a guy.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: So silica is one of those ones where supplementation is
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: almost necessary, and you know you wouldn't have to supplement
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: with silica two hundred three hundred years ago, when we
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: didn't have an over abundance of aluminum the antagonist. But
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: when you have this over abundance of an aluminum antagonist,
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: you have to give the mineral synergists, which is silica,
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: boring lithium. Magnesium. Lithium is another one. It's usually found
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: in water. Our water in this country is not great
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: just because of the municipalities and just the sole fact
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: that we're basically using sewage water paint. We're treating sewage.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: We have one place it's all going to, we're treating it.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: So we're losing a lot of the essential minerals and
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: we're also gaining a lot of pharmaceutical metabolites and toxins
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: like fluoride and chlorine. So for that reason, there's some
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: minerals that I like to supplement with. But if you
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: can incorporate some of these super nutrient dense foods like
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: raw milk and a good quality liver into your diet,
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: you're going to hit a lot of those different minerals
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: that you wouldn't.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, and quick herbal tip. You can drink
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: some horsetail tea for the silica as well. So yeah,
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: that's one way to supplement if you don't want to
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: actually like take a pill supplement.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: So I have one quick follow up question.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Some people are concerned about, let's say, consuming an organ
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: meat like liver, because that is also an organ where
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: the animals processing and detoxifying.
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: What are your thoughts on that.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've heard that one before. I'll say, first off, like,
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: you never want to eat liver from a sick cow.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: Like that's a big no no, right, Like, if that
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: if that animal is sick, you don't want to eat
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: the liver. And by sick, I mean like if it's
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: if it's a conventional cow that's at a feed lot, right, antibiotics,
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: they're feeding the cow corn, which is you know, it's
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: a ruminate animals supposed to eat grass its entire life.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: So these feed lots are getting the fowls as the
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: cows as fat as possible that that cow's liver I
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: would not eat. So you always want to source from
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: a good quality farmer or rancher, you know, ideally one
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: that doesn't vaccinate their cows either. But yeah, it's just
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: like anything, you know, it's all about the dose. You know,
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: too much water will kill you. You know, too much
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: of anything will kill you. It's all about balance. So
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: and it's also about looking at somebody's in my opinion,
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: looking at their a legal scan. You know, if they've
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: got high copper, they should not probably be eating liver.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: Copper is one of those minerals where you can actually
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: be toxic and deficient at the same time. It's actually
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: like the body is not able to use the copper.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: So in a case like that, when somebody has too
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: much copper high copper, we call it a copper toxicity
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: copper blockade. You wouldn't want to eat a lot of liver.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: You'd actually want to incorporate more zinc. One of the
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: best superfoods period is oysters. It's got zinc, copper, iodine, selenium,
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: B vitamins. The problem with oysters is you really want
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: to source oysters from a good place. You don't want
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: to be eating oysters for the Gulf of Mexico. You know,
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: oysters are a filter, right, so they are going to
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: be contaminated. And that's why you never eat oysters in
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: a month. It doesn't have an R because if the
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: month has to have an R in it because that
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: generally is the water is colder, and oysters also have
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: more nutrition in the colder water. It's you know, than
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: the warm water. So that's another reason why you don't.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: But it's bacteria as well. You don't want to eat
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: oysters in the summer. My uncle actually almost died from
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: eating always in Italy. That was in July, so no
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: r from bacteria. So yeah, you oysters can be a
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: super food, but you've got to make sure that their quality. Yeah,
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: So it's all about using common sense. It's all about
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: using this stuff in the right way, and it's all
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: about looking to see, like that's why I use the
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: alligas kind of see like what's the baseline, where's this
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: Is it leaning deficient? Is it leaning excess? Are things
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: not being used correctly or they're not being are they mobilized?
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: Are they bioavailable? So yeah, it's a little bit. It
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: takes a little bit of fine tuning.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, I'm glad you circled back to the
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: oligo scan because I'm curious what is the scope of
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: using this kind of test, Like is it available to
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: all practitioners licensed and unlicensed?
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: I think I heard you say yes.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: So what are the applications that we can start to
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: use in our practices, Like how can we get our
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: hands on this testing and you know, talk to us
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: a little bit about the applications of it.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we primarily sell the illegal stand of healthcare providers.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: So you know, there's, like I mentioned at the beginning,
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: there's all kinds of different ones functional medicine, you know,
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: mds acupuncturius. But I mean, basically, like we're keeping it
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: very simple, we're looking at mineral deficiency and metal toxicity.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's the core. It's the it's the it's
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: the core. It's the foundation, you know. I mean, if
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: if somebody is mineral deficient, they don't have enough of
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: those minerals to create or produce the vitamins, the antioxidants,
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: the proteins, fatty acids, the hormones, the enzymes. So in
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: my opinion, it's really like the foundation. It's the foundation
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: of what the body is actually absorbing or what is
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: accumulating in the body. So yeah, that's my that's my
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: opinion on it. You know, that's why I'm obviously biased,
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: but I think everybody should be at least get a
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: baseline of where they're at and if somebody is really good,
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: if they're scan lot's really balanced, you know, because that's
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: the main thing we're looking for. We're looking for balance,
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: and we're looking for how far are is the person
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: from balance? And where do we need to focus our
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: time on? Where do we need to do it? Where
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: do we need a pinpoint? Right? If somebody's aluminum high, okay,
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: are they breaking a sweat? No, they're not breaking a sweat, Okay,
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: So we need to address that because if they're not sweating,
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: they're not extreting. Is somebody low in copper and zinc? Yes? Okay?
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: Are they vegan? Yes? They don't eat animal based food? Okay?
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: Well where are they getting the copper and the zinc?
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: If they're not eating animal based food, it's going to
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: be very difficult. I mean, I know vegans that do it,
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: but it's it's like very They're taking a million different supplements,
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: you know. Is the chromium super low? Is the iodine
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: super low? You know? Are they somewhat overweight? What is
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: Is that a reflection of their thyroid? Is that a
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: reflection of their metabolism? Are they having trouble losing weight?
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: While those two minerals are imperative for metabolism. Metabolic function,
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: you know, is the phosphorus super low phosphorus represents the
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: ATP of the cell, it's the mitochondria, it's how much
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: energy the cell has. So Jonathan my co founder with
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: the Aluminum Export and I, we take a bio energetic approach.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: So it's all about like energy, is the person reducing
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: enough energy? And if not? Why? So you know, there's
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: there's a there's a lot of different patterns we look for,
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: but we're looking mainly for what is imbalanced and what's
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: the root cause of that imbalance.
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: This is really exciting to me as a pharmacist and
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: imagining like this is a tool that pharmacies can even
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: offer because it's so quick, it's not invasive, and all
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: we need to do is then just learn the patterns
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: and the trends like you were talking about about, you know,
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: what you commonly see and what follow up questions to ask,
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: and then maybe give a person recommendation or protocol, maybe
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: one that even includes some supplements and then you can
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: retest and really navigate the protocol from there.
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: So this is really really exciting and if.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: You have just one more minute, I'd love to do
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: a rapid fire round with you. Yeah, okay, So what's
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: the number one thing somebody can do right now to
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: improve their quality of life?
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: Move their body, get out in the sun. Find community.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: Community is so important. We need to we're social beings.
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: We can't be isolated, you know, we need to be social.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: We need to have community. You know, it's not just
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: about the physical. It's also the emotional and the spiritual,
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: and I think people tend to forget that, and we
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: need to make sure that all three are balanced. And
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: you know, try not to get in the fear state,
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: you know, try not to subscribe to the fear. Like
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: I really encourage people to have fun with this. See,
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: this is like an opportunity to really get to the
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: root cause and to help the body. You know, nothing,
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: I don't prescribe drugs. I'm prescribing food. I'm prescribing maybe
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: supplements that are they're natural that you find from food,
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: maybe the foods that we can't get in a particular country.
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: But everything I've talked and focus on and recommend is
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: all holistic, and it's all just about remembering where we
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: came from and trying to get as close to the
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: source as we can.
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, the Blue zones have established that relationships are super
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: key and purpose and spirituality and all that. So on
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: that note, what do you hope as like a mission
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: for yourself and the Oligo scan and the contribution to
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: the world at large.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I'm just continuing trying to crack the code.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: My biggest focus for the past nine years has just
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: been about when you see a case of deficiency, how
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: do we correct it? You know, when you see toxicity,
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: you see the high marker, you see the high silver,
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: it's really high. How do we get rid of it?
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: You know, how do we get how do we how
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: do we actually take action and get rid of and
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: start to create balance in some of these situations where
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: there's total imbalance. So my goal is, you know, I'm
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: just a free thinker and a researcher, and I'm just
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: trying to connect the dots and trying to give people
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: solutions to a lot of common things that we see.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: I would say that my one of my missions is
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: really to try to understand mercury better. I think it's
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: the trillion dollar question that nobody's really figured out. I
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: think the keylation is probably one of the ways. I
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: think OSR is another way, but I'm not convinced that
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: it actually detoxes the mercury out of the body. You know,
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: if it took thirty years for the mercury to accumulate,
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: who's to say that it's not going to take thirty
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: years for the body to get rid of it. I
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: think it's it's such a sticky and it's such a
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: sticky element that it's very difficult for the body to excrete.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: It's almost like the body opens the door to the
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: jail cell throws the mercury in, it shuts the door
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: and locks it, and it's like we start to wanting
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  Speaker 4: to detox and using kulation and everything, and it's like
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: the body, I think, intuitively knows that, Okay, we're going
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: to start mobilizing this mercury. We're going to open the
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: door and these mercuries are going to start getting out,
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: and if the detox pathways aren't open, it's going to
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: wreck havoc. It's going to go to other places in
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: the body. It's going to do more damage than good.
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  Speaker 4: So I think that by trying to force the body
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  Speaker 4: to release some of these metals, it can cause more
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: harm than good. I always like to think that we
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: have to trust the body. The body always knows best,
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: and there might be a reason why it's not letting
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: all this mercury go. That being said, mercury is going
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: to deplete the body of eye on its selenium, which
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: are two key minerals for the body's protection of the cell.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I think it's just more so following this
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: path of trying to identify different ways to detox and
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: a safe manner.
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: And the last kind of fun question, is there a
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: hobby or a fun fact about yourself that maybe some
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: people don't know about that you'd like to share.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, I just really like to be outside. You know.
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: I will worship the sun. I like Jack Crews is
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: saying the sun is Tina, there's no alternative. I'm also
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: very biased because I have really dark skin. So for me,
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: my body just loves the sun. So that's why I've
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: started to tell people like, you know, if you've got
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: really pale skin, like, don't like go fry yourself. That's
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: not healthy, right, but just try to get outside. I
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: think it's so important. I also grow cactus and I
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: have a nice garden, So I really like to be
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: outside of my garden, and yeah, I just anything outside
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: is really what I'm passionate about, is just being in nature. Great.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if only the Wi Fi signal was better there
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: that we can record our podcast outside.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, thank you so much, Jeff for your wisdom,
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: your time, year, and all the information that you've shared.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: I'll have everything about how to contact you in the
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: show notes so people can reach out.
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: Is there anything else that you'd like to share before
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: we close?
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I think just stay positive, you know, always stay positive.
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  Speaker 4: Always see it as a as a challenge to embark on,
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: and just just do so with like an open mind,
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: and you know, just like make one small thing, one
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: small change a day, you know, really take inventory of
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: like where you're at, you know, like spend an entire
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: day just going through everything that you put in your
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: in your body or put on top of your body,
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: and ask yourself like could this be like you know,
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: could this be source of etamination? And I'm not saying
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: to do that like you know OCD like stressful wise,
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like to have fun with it. But
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: it's really about all these little decisions that add up
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: over time. And yeah, I think the biggest thing too
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: is just try to move your body and try to sweat,
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: because that is ultimately the body detoxing on its own.
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you so much, Jeff.
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  Speaker 3: I hope to see you around maybe at other future
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: trade shows.
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: And again, I'll have everything in the show notes. Thanks again, Bye.
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: You got it, Take care.
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