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Ruthless Bloomberg Kidnap-Victim Mouths "HELP ME" at ATM · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. This proves that no one
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Speaker 1: is immune to crime. Crime strikes at every socio economic level,
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Speaker 1: and I'm talking about multi millionaire famous people. First of all,
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Speaker 1: take a listen to our cut one Kim Christiansen, Kyle Clark.
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Speaker 1: Nine News Colorado. We start with breaking news. Law enforcement
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Speaker 1: across Colorado are looking for a missing woman tonight the
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Speaker 1: Colorado Bureau of Investigations as Amanda Editor was kidnapped in
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Speaker 1: Rio Blanco County in western Colorado earlier today. Investigators think
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Speaker 1: that a man named Joseph Beecher kidnapped her and maybe
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Speaker 1: headed east. They were last seen in Golden around three
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Speaker 1: thirty this afternoon. They could be in a maroon four
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Speaker 1: at F one fifty Colorado plates. Truck may also have
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Speaker 1: a cover shell on the back. CBI says they believe
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Speaker 1: the suspect is armed. Anyone with information is asked to
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Speaker 1: keep their distance and call nine one one. Take a
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Speaker 1: listen nat to our cut two. ABC authorities say on
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Speaker 1: Wednesday morning, the suspect, Joseph Beecher, rammed his vehicle through
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Speaker 1: the main gate to the home and confronted a supervising housekeeper.
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Speaker 1: He reportedly asked where the billionaire's daughters were wanting to
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Speaker 1: make an international scene, but officials say the Bloombergs were
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Speaker 1: not at the ranch. The woman telling authorities Beecher pointed
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Speaker 1: a machine gun at her face and told her she
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Speaker 1: was coming with him. She reportedly mouthed the words helped
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Speaker 1: me to an ATM camera when he forced her to
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Speaker 1: withdraw money. The two scene on hotel surveillance videos that afternoon.
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Speaker 1: So the name Amanda Atinger may not ring a bell,
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Speaker 1: But what about the name Michael Bloomberg, former mayor of
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Speaker 1: New York City who founded and runs Bloomberg TV. Multi millionaire,
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Speaker 1: all around good guy according to sources that know him.
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Speaker 1: So who is Amanda Edinger and what does she have
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Speaker 1: to do with multi millionaire Michael Bloomberg? I mean, see Grace,
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Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories, thank you for being with us
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Speaker 1: here at Fox Nation, and Sirius Sex sim Won eleven,
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Speaker 1: think about it. Suddenly, I don't know where You're minding
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Speaker 1: your own business and somebody puts a machine gun in
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Speaker 1: your face and says get in the car. It sounds
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Speaker 1: like a movie, but it's not straight out to Alexa's
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Speaker 1: Terrestra Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. First of all,
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Speaker 1: who is Michael Bloomberg. Let's start right there. So he
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Speaker 1: is a businessman from New York City. He is actually
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Speaker 1: a billionaire. He has created multiple businesses, but he has
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Speaker 1: a Bloomberg company. Hey question, and this may be better
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Speaker 1: for a shrink, Doctor Bethany Marshall, Doctor Bethany, not that
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Speaker 1: Michael Bloomberg did this, because by all accounts, he's very assuming,
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Speaker 1: he's very um, acts like a regular guy kind of person.
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Speaker 1: But why is it when billionaires billionaires get mad if
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Speaker 1: you call them a millionaire? It's real. I'm not gonna
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Speaker 1: name any names, but they recently in the news, we've
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Speaker 1: heard a lot of drama about a millionaire angry that
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Speaker 1: he was described having fewer millions and he really does have.
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Speaker 1: What is that? Oh did that? Or why they get
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Speaker 1: they become victims of crime? You know? Why did they
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Speaker 1: get angry if they're described this is a this is real? Okay,
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Speaker 1: billionaires get angry if you describe them as a millionaire.
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Speaker 1: They don't want to be portrayed as having less than
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Speaker 1: they do. Okay. So there's a theory in my field
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Speaker 1: that money becomes what we call the third in people's lives.
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Speaker 1: It becomes that thing through which they mediate their identity.
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Speaker 1: It's they're calling part of society. It's a measure of
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Speaker 1: how important they are. And so when you mess with
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Speaker 1: somebody's identification of how much money they have, it strikes
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Speaker 1: at the core of their character. Now, for you or me,
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Speaker 1: or maybe other people on this panel, that's not front
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Speaker 1: and foremost in their life. But for a billionaire everything
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Speaker 1: has to do with their money. Their whole day is
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Speaker 1: spent collecting it, taking care of it. Okay, I just
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Speaker 1: had an epiphany because if somebody says, oh, she's a lawyer,
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Speaker 1: and someone asked me like a slip and fall or
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Speaker 1: a real question, I'm like, I don't do that. I
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Speaker 1: put murderers behind bars. That's my kind of law. If
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Speaker 1: it ain't got a crime scene tape around it, I'm
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Speaker 1: not interested. And I take offense at being described as
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Speaker 1: like I don't know a slip and fall attorney or
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Speaker 1: an ambulance chaser, because I guess your identity is so
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Speaker 1: wrapped up. Or somebody says she has a daughter, might no,
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Speaker 1: doun't I have a girl and a boy. I have
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Speaker 1: twee I'm double duty. Okay it Matt it's what someone
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Speaker 1: calls me a psychologist. I'm a psycho analyst. I still
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Speaker 1: don't know the difference because they did not teach me
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Speaker 1: that in law school. But I know better than to
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Speaker 1: call you a psychologist or a psychiatrist. No way. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm starting to understand it. Okay, alexis arresta little. Did
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Speaker 1: you know you just dropped a bomb in this? Guys
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Speaker 1: with me? A high profile lawyer out of LA. This
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Speaker 1: is an very common phenomena in LA. Troy Slayton with me.
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Speaker 1: You can find him at Slayton Lawyers on Twitter at
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Speaker 1: Troy Slayton. Doctor Bethany Marshall, who we've already been speaking
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Speaker 1: with psycho analysts to the stars at doctor Bethany Marshall
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Speaker 1: dot com. Starva Hittney series on Netflix, Bling Empire. Bobby Chicone,
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Speaker 1: a longtime friend and colleague who's taught me a lot
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Speaker 1: twenty seven years. Former FBI. You can find him at
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Speaker 1: Bobby Chicone dot com. Good Gravy, Chico. Now you're writing
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Speaker 1: and producing audible original series After the Fall. Okay, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna listen to that. Tom Pachy with me, also a
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Speaker 1: longtime friend and colleague, America's leading personal safety expert, author
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Speaker 1: of the Personal Protection Handbook, and you can find him
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Speaker 1: at Tompachery dot com. Alexas Terreschuck Crime online dot com
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Speaker 1: investigative reporter. Pick it up where you left off. What
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Speaker 1: we were talking about. Who it's Michael Bloomberg. So Bloomberg
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Speaker 1: started out in the financial world. He founded his own company.
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Speaker 1: It's a financial institution, but it provides information and software
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Speaker 1: and it's known as the Bloomberg Terminal. Makes his billions
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Speaker 1: of the Bloomberg the Bloomberg Terminal Terminal. Okay, he has
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Speaker 1: a really unique office. He has this philosophy behind his business.
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Speaker 1: So like the elevators in his building don't go to
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Speaker 1: every floor, and there are only trash cans at the
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Speaker 1: end of the wall, and there are no like private offices.
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Speaker 1: Everything's open. It was a philosophy he felt really made
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Speaker 1: people work to their maximum and really was the most
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Speaker 1: beneficial bread. Well, I don't the elevators go to every
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Speaker 1: floor because he thought it'd be better to blok or
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Speaker 1: do different things. Dear Bloomberg philosophy. Yeah, okay, can I
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Speaker 1: tell you I had that experience seeing a friend in
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Speaker 1: the hospital in New York and those elevators stopped at
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Speaker 1: every floor, so Orthodox Jews would not have to push
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Speaker 1: a button on Sundays because they are well on their sabbath. Right,
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Speaker 1: So the elevators are are very different in certain locations.
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Speaker 1: But you know what I've been told Alexis Terres by
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Speaker 1: people that have worked for Bloomberg directly for him and
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Speaker 1: people that were way down the totem pole, that they
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Speaker 1: love him. That he would provide food in the building
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Speaker 1: for his employees, like really good food. So in New
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Speaker 1: York at Bloomberg TV, you don't have to go out
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Speaker 1: in the cold to find lunch. Just a really nice
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Speaker 1: guy walked the floor, would talk to the employees all
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Speaker 1: the time, actually listen to them. And that's really how
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Speaker 1: I'm judging him, because that's how he treats his employees.
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Speaker 1: And I would also like to say to my recollection, Hey, Jackie,
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Speaker 1: well you google this can make sure I'm not wrong
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Speaker 1: that under Bloomberg, when I was living in New York
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Speaker 1: for so many years, the crime rate was really low,
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Speaker 1: as I recall, so I know he was doing something right. Okay,
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Speaker 1: back to Bloomberg, Let's get to the billion billionaire part,
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Speaker 1: because that's what plays into this kidnap go ahead, so
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Speaker 1: I looked it up to make sure that these numbers
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Speaker 1: are right. In twenty twenty, Forbes ranked him as the
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Speaker 1: twentieth richest person in the world, and then as a
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Speaker 1: September eight, twenty twenty, he ranked him fourteenth. He is
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Speaker 1: worth fifty five billion dollars. Wow, that's all I can
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Speaker 1: say to that. And he worked for it too. It's
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Speaker 1: not like it was handed down to him. Guys. How
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Speaker 1: does a guy like Bloomberg and his daughters Emma and
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Speaker 1: Georgina get dragged into a violent kidnapping plot where this woman,
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Speaker 1: Amanda Edinger has a machine gun shoved in her face. Guys,
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Speaker 1: take a listen nowt to our cut three. This is
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Speaker 1: Andrew Hillo Denver seven nuta tails tonight about a woman
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Speaker 1: allegedly kidnapped from a ranche in northwestern Colorado early yesterday morning.
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Speaker 1: The Rio Blanco County Sheriff's Department says she worked on
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Speaker 1: the ranch. A former New York City mayor, Michael Bloomberg.
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Speaker 1: Forty eight year old Joseph Beach was accused of kidnapping
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Speaker 1: Amanda Edtinger at gunpoint. Deputy State Beecher forced her into
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Speaker 1: her own pickup truck and drove across state to the
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Speaker 1: front Range Crime Stories with Nancy Grace to Alexis Terres Chuck.
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Speaker 1: She worked on his ranch. Tell me about the ranch,
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Speaker 1: where is it? How big is it? What she does
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Speaker 1: there to the connection between Bloomberg and Amanda Edinger. So
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Speaker 1: she works on his property which is in it's known
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Speaker 1: as wet Lamb and he Westlands Westlands west and it
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Speaker 1: is Land west Lands, and it is four thousand, six
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Speaker 1: hundred acres forty six hundred acres. It is immense, and
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Speaker 1: he just purchases in twenty twenty for forty four point
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Speaker 1: eight million dollars. But that was he actually got a
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Speaker 1: deal on it because it was originally the asking prices
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Speaker 1: forty six million dollars. So okay, a bit of money, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's the bargain from what I understand, This
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Speaker 1: guy Joseph b Sure barrels his car through the front
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Speaker 1: gate and stormed the home straight out to Bobby Chicon
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Speaker 1: twenty seven years FBI agent Bobby, how does one person
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Speaker 1: pull off storming the gates of Bloomberg's Westland mansion. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, nanty a lot of these um wealthy people
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Speaker 1: when they have these with these ranches and things like that.
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Speaker 1: They're not often there and they keep a pretty public schedule,
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Speaker 1: so that you know, on many many many times, sometimes weeks,
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Speaker 1: sometimes months, um, there's nobody at these ranches except the
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Speaker 1: bear maintenance crews that keep the place up and running
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Speaker 1: for when the when the owner is going to arrive.
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Speaker 1: So a lot of times there's very few people there.
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Speaker 1: And if you're any student of these places, these are
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Speaker 1: usually in small towns, um, and you can you know,
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Speaker 1: people are fairly easily tracked their comings and going, particularly
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Speaker 1: celebrities type people. UM. And so there's usually barrel any security.
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Speaker 1: If the owner's not there, they have the bare minimum
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Speaker 1: security of course when the owner arrived as the big
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Speaker 1: beef up security. But normally at a time like this,
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Speaker 1: when the owner's not off property, you're going to have
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Speaker 1: simply just the maintenance and cleaning people and maybe some
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Speaker 1: you know, skeleton crew of security there. So explain to me,
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Speaker 1: alexis terres Chuck, how he got through it? Was there
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Speaker 1: even security? Was there a closed gate? Did he ram
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Speaker 1: the car through the gate opening it or did he
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Speaker 1: ram the car into the ranch? What happened? So there
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Speaker 1: was a gate in front of the ranch. There was
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Speaker 1: not there's not a security guard at the gates. She's
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Speaker 1: a big metal ring. So he drove up, he checked
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Speaker 1: it out, he looked at it. Then he backed his
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Speaker 1: car up and barreled through it. His car was powerful
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Speaker 1: enough to crash through the gate. And nobody noticed, as
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Speaker 1: you know, he just said Bloomberg had was not there
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Speaker 1: and so but he didn't know this right, and so
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Speaker 1: that he just crashed it. And then he gets into
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Speaker 1: the house. This house, this is not a small ranch house.
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Speaker 1: This is a nineteen thousand square foot house. The property
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Speaker 1: also has a golf course that was designed by the
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Speaker 1: famous golfer Greg Norman. There's a tennis court, there's a hellipat,
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Speaker 1: there's a theater in the house. So nineteen thousand square feet.
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Speaker 1: This woman is inside the home. Of course, in the
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Speaker 1: nine thousand square foot house, you're not going to hear
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Speaker 1: what happens at the gate, you know, in a almost
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Speaker 1: a five thousand square foot or five thousand acre property.
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Speaker 1: It's a mile away, So she didn't hear it at all.
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Speaker 1: Nobody was aware of the car crashing through the gate.
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Speaker 1: He pulls up to the house, runs inside, starts running
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Speaker 1: around and confronts her. He finds her she's actually cleaning
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Speaker 1: a closet, so her back is to him. She's completely
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Speaker 1: unaware of anything going on around her, and he comes
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Speaker 1: up to her with what she described as a machine
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Speaker 1: gun and puts it pointed at her. To Tampa Terry,
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Speaker 1: America's leading personal safety expert, author of the Personal Protection
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Speaker 1: Handbook for US regular People? What are we supposed to
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Speaker 1: do to ward off home invasions? Tom? Just so you know,
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Speaker 1: was it three days ago we covered the case of
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Speaker 1: a home invasion where a felon breaks in to a
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Speaker 1: home where the man, the husband, and wife are asleep
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Speaker 1: in bed. It was either his brother or his friend
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Speaker 1: was staying there, was leaving for a night job at
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Speaker 1: about one o'clock in the morning, goes outside to get
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Speaker 1: in the car to go to work, has this little
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Speaker 1: lunch and everything with him my dad used to do
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Speaker 1: at midnight, would leave to go to work, and the
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Speaker 1: perps sees that opportunity to storm the house with guns,
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Speaker 1: shot the husband, the father dead in the bed, and
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Speaker 1: all they took was a cell phone and a pocketbook
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Speaker 1: and some money that was laying beside the pocket. But
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Speaker 1: like you know, like I would have five ones and
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Speaker 1: a ten and that's he home invaded, shot the dad,
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Speaker 1: the husband dead in bed as he was sleeping beside
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Speaker 1: his wife for a cell phone in a pocketbook. So
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Speaker 1: help me out. But Terry on home invasions, Okay, well,
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Speaker 1: there's two types of home invasions. Usually in the daytime
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Speaker 1: ten to two. It's it's a professional and goes in there.
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Speaker 1: He takes what he knows. Hold on to Terry. You
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Speaker 1: got me drinking from the fire, Hydra here, slow it down,
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Speaker 1: and you said there's two types and one would be
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Speaker 1: between ten and two, and that would be a pro. Okay, exactly,
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Speaker 1: professional that knows what to do, what takes only lucrative stuff, cash,
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Speaker 1: jewelry gone. Usually three to five minutes done. He's already gotten,
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Speaker 1: you know, and he's got a preset plan. He already
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Speaker 1: knows a day out of the house. He knows when
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Speaker 1: people are home. You know, we are creatures of habit.
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Speaker 1: So are you saying they would come in? A pro
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Speaker 1: would come in between tenna two because he thinks everybody's
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Speaker 1: at work. Yes, And then most of the time, because
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Speaker 1: he surveiled the house, he already knows, you know, how
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Speaker 1: to get in what to do is their alarm system,
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Speaker 1: is their broken door? You know, did they leave a
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Speaker 1: ladder around that they could go through a window? I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's all things that people usually doing, and a lot
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Speaker 1: of times they played themselves as landscapers or gas man,
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Speaker 1: so they look like they fit the environment. Now that's
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Speaker 1: much different at night. Now at night it's usually drug
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Speaker 1: induced somebody that's desperate. You know, they're not of sound
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Speaker 1: minded body, So that's when the violence occurs, you know,
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Speaker 1: and they're looking for anything that they could take and
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Speaker 1: sell to get a quick fix, to buy their selves
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Speaker 1: drugs or whatever they need do. So in this case,
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Speaker 1: I would say he falls in the category of the
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Speaker 1: pro Alexas Terrestia. What time of the day or night
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Speaker 1: was the home invasion of Bloomberg's ranch. It was ten
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Speaker 1: fifteen in the morning. That's exactly what you just said, Petery.
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Speaker 1: You said between ten and two, and this is at
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Speaker 1: ten fifteen. Now it seems to me, though, Tom Pettery,
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Speaker 1: that knowing it is Michael Bloomberg's ranch, you would assume
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Speaker 1: that somebody was there, and I guess that's the point.
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Speaker 1: He was there to kidnap someone as opposed to home
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Speaker 1: invade and steal stuff. Yes, because look, I protect celebrities
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Speaker 1: and execs for a living, and the biggest thing that
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Speaker 1: they care about is the weakness in the chain, which
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Speaker 1: is family members. They care more about having security on
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Speaker 1: their kids than themselves. So this person that did this
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Speaker 1: knew that if he abducted this daughter or son or whoever.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's high ransom because in the history of ransoms,
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Speaker 1: people will always pay for their children. Well, you're right
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Speaker 1: on the money. Speaking of money, Tom Petery, take a
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Speaker 1: listen to Less Trent Insight edition. For those of you
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Speaker 1: that know the name Sinatra, this should ring a bell. Listen.
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Speaker 1: Frank Junior inherited his father's looks and velvet voice. When
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Speaker 1: Junior was just nineteen, he was kidnapped at a casino
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Speaker 1: in Lake Tahoe. They are of rying ordeal of Frank Chanak.
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Speaker 1: When Junior began while he was killing an engagement at
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Speaker 1: Lake Tahoe. The mastermind was a troubled young man named
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Speaker 1: Barry Keenan. He knew I was dangerous. He knew I
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Speaker 1: was just one crack away from killing everybody, or not
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Speaker 1: killing me. He didn't know, but he can tell I
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Speaker 1: was crazy. Inside edition spoke to Barry Keenan in two
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Speaker 1: thousand and four. Keenan and two cronies were paid a
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Speaker 1: ransom of two hundred and forty thousand dollars the equivalent
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Speaker 1: of one point eight million dollars today. The thugs released
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Speaker 1: Junior on an LA Freeway overpass. Then he walked home
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Speaker 1: to the family's mansion in bel Air. Nervous eventually, but
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Speaker 1: the only I'm gonna do all for the best. Keenom
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Speaker 1: was caught and spent five years in prison. Five years
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Speaker 1: for kidnapped Troice Layton. That's not right. That's a twenty
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Speaker 1: to life. While there may have been mitigating circumstances, and
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Speaker 1: the victim was released and turned out unscathed. Crime stories
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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace Troice Layton. The money motive, or pecuniary interest,
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Speaker 1: as it is often called in the law, in most
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Speaker 1: cases works against a defendant because it's for instance, that
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Speaker 1: is an aggravating circumstance for the death penalty. If you
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Speaker 1: are killing for money, like a hired mercenary. If you,
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Speaker 1: in fact arrange a killing of your spouse safe for insurance,
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Speaker 1: that's killing for money. So the law looks less kindly
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Speaker 1: on a killer or a kidnapper if they are acting
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Speaker 1: with money motive. Explain why, Troice Lighten. Well, when a
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Speaker 1: jury is asked to consider whether or not to impose
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Speaker 1: the death penalty on a victim, there's a whole list
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Speaker 1: of what are called special circumstances that the jury may
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Speaker 1: have to find lying in wait, killing multiple people, all
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Speaker 1: this malice of forethought. Like you said, money, these are
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Speaker 1: all things that make just what would be a normal
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Speaker 1: crime of murder a heat like a heat of passion,
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Speaker 1: something happened right in the moment where somebody finds their
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Speaker 1: wife in bed with another man. Why do you always
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Speaker 1: use the same tired example, Troice Lighten, Why doesn't the
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Speaker 1: wife ever find their husband in bend with somebody and
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Speaker 1: shoot both of them? It's always the same with you.
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Speaker 1: Oh that happens to Nancy. But what the point is
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Speaker 1: the lone? You just go to the botron worse, Why
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Speaker 1: does it always have to be the woman in bad
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Speaker 1: with somebody else having sex and the husband comes in
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Speaker 1: and kills her. You got to come up with something
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Speaker 1: better than that. But your legal point is, the legal
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Speaker 1: point is certain motives for the crimes. What the men's
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Speaker 1: rea is, what the what the guilty mind is Oh,
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Speaker 1: I know you're throwing Latin phrases around. Go ahead, certain
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Speaker 1: things are worse than others. Men's rea means the guilty mind,
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Speaker 1: and so the line poses worse penalties on things that
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Speaker 1: have worse motives. And you know why I think that is.
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Speaker 1: I mean, all motive for murder is bad. All murder
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Speaker 1: is bad. But doctor Bethany Marshall, it takes a certain
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Speaker 1: kind of mind, depraved mind to plan out the murder
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Speaker 1: coldly and calculatedly. You know you're going to kill this person,
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Speaker 1: you plan it in detail, and your motive is money.
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Speaker 1: There is something there's something colder about that, as Troy
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Speaker 1: Slayton was pointing out in his own special way. Then
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Speaker 1: getting into a bar fight, pulling your gun at bam
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Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, what did I just do? No,
22:25
Speaker 1: this is cold and calculated. When you kidnap or murder
22:29
Speaker 1: for money, Well, if the motivation is emotional, you caught
22:34
Speaker 1: your husband cheating with another woman, You've gotten in a
22:38
Speaker 1: bar fight, something like that, it's hot. The emotions are hot,
22:42
Speaker 1: it's temporary, it ebbs away over time. It's based on
22:46
Speaker 1: impulsivity and the inability to contains one emotion one's emotions.
22:51
Speaker 1: Now in this case, somebody who's going to crash through
22:54
Speaker 1: the gates of by multi billionaires, a billionaire inaire's home.
23:01
Speaker 1: This is somebody who's been methodical, who's been thinking about it.
23:05
Speaker 1: And actually I was thinking about the profile of the stalker.
23:08
Speaker 1: In some ways, we could even see this as a
23:10
Speaker 1: form of stalking Michael Blueberg, that he is obsessed with him.
23:14
Speaker 1: You know, I have a couple of international stars in
23:19
Speaker 1: my practice who were child stars and they tell me
23:22
Speaker 1: that they had bodyguards throughout their childhood and even now
23:27
Speaker 1: because the lad would regularly approach them and say, did
23:32
Speaker 1: you know you have stalkers? It would come to the
23:34
Speaker 1: LAPD's attention. And when one child star told me it
23:38
Speaker 1: was terrifying that the police brought her pictures of the
23:42
Speaker 1: stalker's room. He had a whole room dedicated to her,
23:45
Speaker 1: and it was pictures of her on tour, pictures her,
23:48
Speaker 1: you know, newspaper clippings, her family members, her child So
23:54
Speaker 1: the person was obsessed with her and she still thinks about,
23:58
Speaker 1: you know, if he's still obsessed with her nowls So
24:00
Speaker 1: I would also put this in that category. When you're
24:02
Speaker 1: talking about these kinds of crimes rather than a ball
24:06
Speaker 1: ballroom brawl or something like that. You have somebody who's
24:09
Speaker 1: fixated on Michael Bloomberg, and as soon as he gets
24:12
Speaker 1: back out of jail, he's going to be fixated on
24:14
Speaker 1: him again. You know, I'm gonna come to you, Bobby Chicone,
24:18
Speaker 1: because I know you have had experience with kidnappings. We
24:21
Speaker 1: just played you, Safro when Frank Sinatra's son. You don't
24:25
Speaker 1: I didn't want to mess with Sinatra. Okay, he's got
24:28
Speaker 1: so many mob ties out the ying Yang, but he's
24:32
Speaker 1: not the only high profile person whose relative child specifically
24:39
Speaker 1: was kidnapped. Take a listen to our cut seventeen from
24:42
Speaker 1: Inside Edition. To the name Getty ring a bell. He
24:47
Speaker 1: was the richest man in the world, but when billionaire
24:49
Speaker 1: John Paul Getty's sixteen year old grandson was kidnapped, he
24:53
Speaker 1: refused to pay a dime in ransom. The real kidnapping
24:56
Speaker 1: in Italy in nineteen seventy three made headlines around the world.
25:00
Speaker 1: The teenager's distraught mom pleaded with the kidnappers. Only when
25:03
Speaker 1: the kidnappers cut off the boy's ear did his grandfather
25:06
Speaker 1: agree to pay, but only as much as he could
25:09
Speaker 1: deduct from his taxes two point two million dollars. The
25:13
Speaker 1: rest of the ransom, seven hundred thousand dollars, was deemed alone.
25:17
Speaker 1: The teenager had to pay back with four percent interest.
25:23
Speaker 1: This was the dramatic scene when the boy was released
25:26
Speaker 1: and reunited with his mother, but there was no happy ending.
25:30
Speaker 1: Eoded and suffered a stroke when he was just twenty four,
25:33
Speaker 1: and he spent the rest of his life in a wheelchair.
25:36
Speaker 1: He died in two eleven two. Hold on, Bobby, I
25:40
Speaker 1: gotta get back to our shrink. Doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst
25:43
Speaker 1: joining us from La Bethany. Your grandfather refuses to pay
25:48
Speaker 1: their aunt someone he's the richest person in the world.
25:52
Speaker 1: Then only when your ear is cut off does the
25:57
Speaker 1: grandfather agree to pay. Only the amount that is tax
26:00
Speaker 1: deductible two point two million dollars. The rest is seven
26:06
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. He paid was deemed alone, and his
26:09
Speaker 1: grandson had to pay it back four percent interest. No
26:14
Speaker 1: wonder was I mean, if we know that much about
26:18
Speaker 1: the family dynamic, can you imagine why the boy grew
26:23
Speaker 1: up and overdosed when he was just twenty four and
26:26
Speaker 1: then died of a stroke. You know, Nancy, one definition
26:29
Speaker 1: of trauma is when the unimaginable happens. The unimaginable happened.
26:34
Speaker 1: He was kidnapped. His grandfather wouldn't pay the ransom. He
26:38
Speaker 1: had to pay it back with four percent interests. Yes,
26:41
Speaker 1: the fact that he stroked out, odeed, spent the rest
26:44
Speaker 1: of his life in a wheelchair is not surprising because
26:47
Speaker 1: when we have severe trauma, it affects our body, not
26:52
Speaker 1: just our mind. It's all intertwined. So for any of
26:55
Speaker 1: your listeners who had the unimaginable happen to them, Yeah,
26:58
Speaker 1: they're going to be depressed, They're going to have sleepless nights,
27:02
Speaker 1: They're going to have reactive attachment disorder where they can't
27:04
Speaker 1: attach to the people around them. It's going to affect
27:07
Speaker 1: them on every single level. And I'm thinking about when
27:10
Speaker 1: this guy crashed through the gates, you know, who did
27:13
Speaker 1: he encounter, what did he do to them? And what
27:15
Speaker 1: kind of unimaginable horrors did they did they encounter? And
27:19
Speaker 1: what are the reverberating effects of this story and this
27:22
Speaker 1: crime going to be Bobby Karl, you've seen a lot
27:26
Speaker 1: of kidnaps, and before you describe what you have seen,
27:30
Speaker 1: take listen to our cut forteying This is our friend,
27:34
Speaker 1: Deborah Roberts at ABC News. I did not want to die,
27:38
Speaker 1: and I remember praying to God, and I remember I
27:41
Speaker 1: never said, you know, like a man. In my mind,
27:44
Speaker 1: I never wanted to end my prayers because I didn't
27:47
Speaker 1: want God to leave me. She endus the next nine
27:50
Speaker 1: months through prayer and gains her captor's trust by never
27:54
Speaker 1: disagreeing or angering him, The two forming a complicated bond.
27:59
Speaker 1: They would walk together, and she says she even agreed
28:02
Speaker 1: to help him make counterfeit money. Part of how I
28:05
Speaker 1: gained his trust, I guess was, you know, I went
28:07
Speaker 1: along with whatever he wanted to do. In fact, he
28:10
Speaker 1: was so afraid police were about to arrest him on
28:12
Speaker 1: a counterfeiting investigation. He let Abby go on a desolate road.
28:17
Speaker 1: There were no cars coming either way, and he said,
28:19
Speaker 1: get out, just like that, Just like that. That was it.
28:23
Speaker 1: I remember looking up and laughing, just being so happy.
28:27
Speaker 1: I never thought it would happen to me. But I'm free.
28:31
Speaker 1: And I just walked home hearing the voice of kidnap
28:35
Speaker 1: victim Abbey Hernandez. Now I believe it's Philippians, it says
28:40
Speaker 1: pray and all circumstances pray without ceasing that she was
28:43
Speaker 1: so afraid he would kill her she would not say
28:48
Speaker 1: amen to any of her prayers. She says she didn't
28:51
Speaker 1: want the Lord to leave her as if he would.
29:08
Speaker 1: Time stories with Nancy Grace. You know Bobby Chakarn speaking
29:13
Speaker 1: of kidnapping for money, and you know who I'm talking
29:16
Speaker 1: about the Alaska and Barista Samantha Koenig and her pos
29:22
Speaker 1: kidnapper mayhe rot in Hell Israel keys remember that, sure, Nancy,
29:28
Speaker 1: I didn't. We don't even think that started out as
29:30
Speaker 1: a kidnapping. That was a mistake that's admittedly made later on,
29:35
Speaker 1: but it was it was the thing that got him,
29:37
Speaker 1: caught him kept going back to the ATMs to get
29:41
Speaker 1: money out of the account that Samantha's account that we
29:44
Speaker 1: had started depositing money into. That was our connection to him,
29:47
Speaker 1: and ultimately it's downfall. But these these kidnappings break two
29:50
Speaker 1: different ways. So you have the stalkers like we just
29:54
Speaker 1: heard this young woman whose heals for nine months, who
29:56
Speaker 1: was much more personal, not financially motivating. Then then then you
30:00
Speaker 1: would have the ones more recently, like see when the
30:03
Speaker 1: hotel owner in Las Vegas casino owner whose daughter was
30:06
Speaker 1: kidnaped in nineteen ninety three. He made the ransom, never
30:09
Speaker 1: at contact of the cops. He got the daughter back
30:11
Speaker 1: in two hours. We got involved later in track down
30:14
Speaker 1: the kidnappers and they went to jail. Um. But there
30:18
Speaker 1: are those types of that are professional. They just want
30:21
Speaker 1: the money, they have a plan, it's executed very well. Um.
30:25
Speaker 1: We in the early two thousands, we foiled an attempt
30:28
Speaker 1: to kidnap David Letterman Stun from his ranch in Montana,
30:32
Speaker 1: which seems very much like this case with Bloomberg. Um.
30:35
Speaker 1: But there it was a person who worked for the
30:39
Speaker 1: Letterman estate there. They knew the inside layout of the property,
30:42
Speaker 1: they had pictures, and they had a plan. Fortunately we
30:45
Speaker 1: were able to get onto the plan before whatever took place.
30:48
Speaker 1: But but there are these things breakdown along those those
30:51
Speaker 1: two lines, whether it's personal and they're going to kidnap
30:54
Speaker 1: this person because they're obsessed with them, they're not really
30:56
Speaker 1: as interested in the ransom. Um. And then there's the
30:59
Speaker 1: ones the wind case where the girl was left safe
31:03
Speaker 1: alone in a car at the airport in Vegas. I
31:05
Speaker 1: think that's how they returned her after two hours. And
31:08
Speaker 1: so they were just interested in money, and they got
31:12
Speaker 1: it very quickly, and it was planned very well. Um.
31:15
Speaker 1: The Bloomberg case, I'm not sure how well it was planned. Um,
31:18
Speaker 1: there was a seems to be you know, an emotional
31:22
Speaker 1: you know elements in this way he crashed the gate. Um.
31:25
Speaker 1: It's not the kind of thing we usually see. Kidnapping's
31:27
Speaker 1: usually done very covertly. Um. You want to get the
31:30
Speaker 1: person to get to get in and get out and
31:32
Speaker 1: then make your ransom demand. So you want to do
31:35
Speaker 1: that with as little fair fanfare as possible to the
31:38
Speaker 1: initial abduction. Um. And so normally we don't see this
31:43
Speaker 1: kind of approach on a kidnapping. You know, you mentioned
31:46
Speaker 1: some kidnappings that were foiled and somewhere the kidnapped victim
31:52
Speaker 1: was saved. Not true in the case of Samantha Konik,
31:55
Speaker 1: where you actually supervised digging and an iced over river
32:02
Speaker 1: lake to pull up Samantha Koenig's body parts. This young
32:07
Speaker 1: I believe she was nineteen, wasn't she Alaska? Yes, working
32:12
Speaker 1: in a coffee stand, was kidnapped. A ransom photo of
32:17
Speaker 1: her was left at a park with a money demand,
32:23
Speaker 1: and as soon as the boyfriend and the dad saw it.
32:26
Speaker 1: They knew something was wrong because she never, like my
32:30
Speaker 1: daughter has never, except when I did it when she
32:32
Speaker 1: was a little girl, worn her hair in two long braids.
32:37
Speaker 1: Never she puts her hair back in a bun. My
32:40
Speaker 1: girl does. And Samantha had her hair in braids, and
32:45
Speaker 1: she looked like she had on makeup that she wouldn't
32:48
Speaker 1: normally wear. We found out later he had not only
32:53
Speaker 1: raped her repeatedly, but had sewed her eye lids open,
32:59
Speaker 1: had covered her makeup to make her look alive. And
33:02
Speaker 1: she was dead at the time. The ransom from the kidnapping.
33:07
Speaker 1: That's how serious kidnappings can be. So to you, Alexis
33:12
Speaker 1: terres Chuck, and I'm going to come back to you,
33:15
Speaker 1: Tapatie with the personal protection handbook about how to avoid abduction.
33:22
Speaker 1: Alexis Terresha, I believe that the intended victims were Bloomberg's daughters,
33:28
Speaker 1: Emma and Georgina. They were That's what he was, That's
33:31
Speaker 1: who he was looking for. Now, Emma and Georgina are
33:34
Speaker 1: not young children, ones in r thirties and ones in
33:36
Speaker 1: her forties. Georgina that is a well known equestrian. She
33:41
Speaker 1: both of these girls and were in a documentary that
33:45
Speaker 1: was called born Rich in two thousand and three. Like,
33:47
Speaker 1: people know who they are, they're they're very well known.
33:51
Speaker 1: Their dad is not the kind who's like, I'm cutting
33:53
Speaker 1: off my children. I'm not helping them. He would, you know,
33:56
Speaker 1: a ransom. I don't know him, but I would imagine
33:58
Speaker 1: if there was a ransom, he would pay it. He
34:00
Speaker 1: would never want his daughter's ear to be cut off,
34:03
Speaker 1: and he wouldn't charter her interest when it came back,
34:05
Speaker 1: when he came back. Take a listen to our cut six.
34:07
Speaker 1: Phil lipof ABC This Morning new dramatic police video a
34:12
Speaker 1: daring rescue ending the kidnapping of a woman who worked
34:14
Speaker 1: for Michael Bloomberg. Police say she was taken at gunpoint
34:18
Speaker 1: from his Colorado ranch Wednesday. This video showing the Cheyenne
34:21
Speaker 1: Police Department's joint SWAT team arriving to the scene at
34:24
Speaker 1: the Stagecoach Motel just across state lines. All enfortunate did
34:28
Speaker 1: everything right in this case. They were able to apparently
34:33
Speaker 1: track her iPad, which eventually led them to Cheyenne, Wyoming.
34:38
Speaker 1: Investigators say the suspect, Joseph Beecher, was carrying an AR
34:42
Speaker 1: fifteen and a handgun when he was arrested. Now he's
34:45
Speaker 1: charged with kidnapping in federal court. To Bobbie Chacon, explain
34:49
Speaker 1: what an AAR fifteen is. It's semi automatic long gun.
34:52
Speaker 1: It's not. It looks like a machine gun because it's
34:55
Speaker 1: got a long barrel on it and the way it's held,
34:58
Speaker 1: but it really is a Usually a nine millimeter is
35:02
Speaker 1: the same round semi automatic handguns did just a semi
35:05
Speaker 1: automatic rifle. I will never forget Choice Slayton. The first
35:08
Speaker 1: time I had to handle an AAR, it was in
35:12
Speaker 1: a murder and two dopers had meant to shoot another
35:15
Speaker 1: doper and they did at sniper style at a distance.
35:19
Speaker 1: That's because that's why they didn't realize who they were shooting.
35:23
Speaker 1: Was a thirteen year old little boy coming home from
35:25
Speaker 1: band practice, his nickname Moonbeam, and as he tried to
35:30
Speaker 1: crawl to his house, he was calling out for his
35:33
Speaker 1: mother when he died. And I remember holding that AAR
35:39
Speaker 1: in court and it looked like somebody had spray painted
35:43
Speaker 1: it Matt black, a dull black, and I swear it
35:48
Speaker 1: looked like it came straight out of the gates a hill.
35:51
Speaker 1: That's what an AR looks like to me. You ever
35:54
Speaker 1: had to deal with one of those in court, slave,
35:55
Speaker 1: I actually have and although they may look scary to
36:00
Speaker 1: somebody that's not experienced handling guns, they are the most
36:04
Speaker 1: common rightful in the United States. Okay, I guess that
36:09
Speaker 1: makes it okay the diapers and kidnappers used them more often.
36:14
Speaker 1: Thanks Joy for that inside information. Guys, what was the
36:17
Speaker 1: whole purpose of this kidnapping? Take a listen to our
36:21
Speaker 1: cut seven ABC. According to court documents, Beecher was looking
36:24
Speaker 1: for Bloomberg's daughters and wanted to quote make an international scene,
36:28
Speaker 1: the victim told authorities. Beecher rammed his truck through Bloomberg
36:31
Speaker 1: Ranch's security gate and forced her to leave with him.
36:34
Speaker 1: She says she was forced to withdraw money from an ATM.
36:37
Speaker 1: While taking that money out, she mailed the words helped me,
36:40
Speaker 1: hoping it would be recorded by the machine surveillance camera.
36:43
Speaker 1: The victim safe and returned to her family. She remained calm.
36:47
Speaker 1: She tried to be friendly, and so if you can
36:50
Speaker 1: do those two things not agitate a kidnapper, you any
36:54
Speaker 1: increase your odds of staying alive. Authorities Saint Bloomberg was
36:58
Speaker 1: not at the ranch during the kid apping. Overnight a
37:01
Speaker 1: spokesperson for Bloomberg telling ABC News were deeply grateful to
37:05
Speaker 1: the Rio Blanco County Sheriff's Office for their swift and
37:08
Speaker 1: heroic action in this case. No word from an investigators
37:11
Speaker 1: so far and why Beecher was trying to cause what
37:13
Speaker 1: he called an international incident. But he is in custody
37:17
Speaker 1: now and facing serious federal charges. Okay, data shrink pronto.
37:22
Speaker 1: The victim in this case, Amanda Editor tells the FBI
37:28
Speaker 1: demanded She's sleeping bed next to him, with her head
37:31
Speaker 1: on his chest, her arm around his middle, and his leg,
37:38
Speaker 1: her leg over his What is that you wanted to spoon?
37:43
Speaker 1: I think that this is going to sound strange. He
37:47
Speaker 1: was not from you. Nothing strange, Doctor Bethany, go ahead.
37:50
Speaker 1: He was trying to steal another person's life, not just
37:54
Speaker 1: their money. By that, I mean, remember she did he didn't.
37:58
Speaker 1: He rob his employee before he left the place where
38:01
Speaker 1: he lived. He broke through the gate to the compound.
38:04
Speaker 1: He smack up behind her with an AK forty seven
38:07
Speaker 1: while she was working, told her, I'm going to blow
38:09
Speaker 1: your effing face off, brings her to the motel, wants
38:13
Speaker 1: to snuggle with her like she is his wife. Or girlfriend.
38:17
Speaker 1: I think in some ways he wanted to be Bloomberg.
38:20
Speaker 1: He wanted to have Bloomberg's life, he wanted to have
38:22
Speaker 1: Bloomberg's money, he wanted to have Bloomberg's daughters. I know
38:27
Speaker 1: you guys are thinking about this as being financially motivated.
38:30
Speaker 1: I see it as stocking, where you want to be
38:33
Speaker 1: the other person. You want to merge into them. You
38:35
Speaker 1: want to have something they have. And if he couldn't
38:38
Speaker 1: have the daughters, Michael Bloomberg's daughters, well I'll have the housekeeper.
38:43
Speaker 1: She I've looked at pictures of her. She's an attractive,
38:45
Speaker 1: middle aged woman, and I'm going to get her to
38:48
Speaker 1: snuggle in bed with me at night. As if he
38:51
Speaker 1: is now Bloomberg, adopting his life, his customs, his housekeeper
38:55
Speaker 1: and Anthea. I want to say something about this house.
38:58
Speaker 1: You know, the listeners might think of this as, oh,
39:01
Speaker 1: it's this sprawling, you know, nineteen thousand square foot house
39:05
Speaker 1: and nobody is there. These places are like hotels. You know.
39:09
Speaker 1: She was the head housekeeper, which means that she has
39:13
Speaker 1: dozens of housekeepers working underneath her. This house is probably
39:17
Speaker 1: fairly well staffed. There are people coming in and out.
39:21
Speaker 1: So that makes this much more even more of a
39:23
Speaker 1: brazen act. But I think in some way he wanted
39:27
Speaker 1: to experiment with what it was like to be Bloomberg,
39:30
Speaker 1: and he forced her to be like a companion to
39:32
Speaker 1: him of sorts. I didn't say that coming doctor Bethany.
39:36
Speaker 1: As usual, guys, a little bit more, we're learning about
39:41
Speaker 1: what the said. Take a listen to Art cut Hey,
39:44
Speaker 1: this is Steve Steger nineties Colorado and ARRESTAFFI David says
39:48
Speaker 1: that he asked for Bloomberg's daughters before kidnapping an employee
39:52
Speaker 1: at gunpoint. On Wednesday. Joseph Beecher was arrested in a
39:55
Speaker 1: motel in Wyoming with the woman the next morning. Yeff
39:59
Speaker 1: David says investigate found them by tracking the woman's iPad.
40:02
Speaker 1: The woman wasn't hurt, but she told police Beecher kissed
40:05
Speaker 1: her and told her if she was a man, she
40:08
Speaker 1: would be dead. At one point, she says that they
40:11
Speaker 1: stopped in the Metro area to pull money out of
40:13
Speaker 1: an ATM. The woman told investigator she mouthed the words
40:16
Speaker 1: help me, hoping that someone would notice on a security camera.
40:20
Speaker 1: Rio Blanco County Sheriff's Office says that Beecher had no
40:23
Speaker 1: connection to the Bloomberg's or this woman. Beecher is facing
40:27
Speaker 1: federal kidnapping charges. To Tom Pachierry, America's Lady Personal Safety Expert,
40:31
Speaker 1: author Personal Protection Handbook, Tom, of course we're not at
40:36
Speaker 1: Bloomberg's level with all of his literally billions of dollars.
40:40
Speaker 1: But we go walking, we go jogging, we take our
40:44
Speaker 1: children to the grocery store. We have to go in
40:47
Speaker 1: and out of malls or gas stations. We're home. Some
40:51
Speaker 1: people forget to turn all their alarm or the locking
40:54
Speaker 1: their doors when their home. I've had kidnappings that have
40:59
Speaker 1: covered them and the investigate them that take place in
41:02
Speaker 1: their front yard. What can people do, tape Teera to
41:07
Speaker 1: avoid exactly this. Well, one of the key things is
41:10
Speaker 1: we have to learn to increase our protective veil. And
41:14
Speaker 1: what that means is, you know, our awareness queues number
41:17
Speaker 1: one when we're out in public and things stay off
41:20
Speaker 1: the cell phones. I mean, the cell phones are the
41:21
Speaker 1: biggest distraction things out there. While you're talking, somebody's listening
41:26
Speaker 1: or somebody's looking. You know. The other thing is change
41:29
Speaker 1: your routine. You know, if you go pick up the
41:31
Speaker 1: mail every day at nine oh five, you know, change that,
41:33
Speaker 1: change the route that you go to work, and things
41:36
Speaker 1: like that don't have a pattern for somebody that's looking
41:39
Speaker 1: to know where the vulnerability is. You know. The third
41:43
Speaker 1: thing is is always check and balance, you know, always
41:45
Speaker 1: let people know where you are when you are. The
41:48
Speaker 1: problem is here we get complacent in life, and we
41:51
Speaker 1: all do, and then random things happen to us. I
41:54
Speaker 1: mean on the celebrity editored executive that I have to
41:57
Speaker 1: say this about the Bloomberg incident. I'm surprised that they
42:01
Speaker 1: didn't have an impact alarm on the gate itself, that
42:04
Speaker 1: when the impact hit the gate, that didn't go directly
42:07
Speaker 1: to the police station to know that. You know, the
42:10
Speaker 1: gate was destroyed. Something drawing at this house. You know,
42:13
Speaker 1: because a lot of things that we do at celebrities
42:15
Speaker 1: because they have money or VIPs is different than what
42:18
Speaker 1: we do for everyday people. Impact alarm, I've never heard
42:21
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, it's actually designed into the gate. Oh,
42:24
Speaker 1: Liza's tersha. Where does the case I guess Joseph Bischer
42:28
Speaker 1: rot in Heale, where does it stand right now? Well,
42:31
Speaker 1: he is in jail and they are going to they've
42:34
Speaker 1: charged him with kidnapping, but There also will probably be
42:36
Speaker 1: charges from as doctor Rethney Marshall had said, earlier, he
42:40
Speaker 1: robbed his employer. He was working at a hotel, and
42:43
Speaker 1: earlier he robbed his employer, and that's where he got
42:47
Speaker 1: the gun, and so he broke into their house, he's claiming,
42:53
Speaker 1: or well, the housekeeper told the FBI that he confessed
42:57
Speaker 1: to heart that he broke into his employer's home, got
43:00
Speaker 1: in a fight, and that's where he stole the guy.
43:02
Speaker 1: Troy Slat and I see a lot more charges coming
43:04
Speaker 1: down the pipe, for instance, aggravated assault with a deadly weapon,
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Speaker 1: putting a machine gun in her face, kidnapping, the armed
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Speaker 1: robbery of the boss, well, the robbery of the boss
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Speaker 1: of the weapon. There's a lot going on here for
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Speaker 1: the prosecutors to use in charging. And if those charges
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Speaker 1: are stacked consecutively like twenty plus twenty plus twenty, he's
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Speaker 1: looking at life behind bars. He is, and once the
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Speaker 1: federal government is done with him, he's facing local charges
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Speaker 1: in each one of the jurisdictions where he committed a crime.
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Speaker 1: Just barreling through the gate at the Bloomberg estate. That's
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Speaker 1: breaking entering and burglary. It's breaking into the dwelling house
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Speaker 1: of another with the intent to commit a felony. They're
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Speaker 1: in the definition of burglary. We wait as justice unfalls.
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace Crime Story, signing off goodbye friend,