Latest / The Confident Entrepreneur With Jennifer Ann Johnson / Strategic Tax Moves to Boost Your Business's Bottom Line
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- 0:37Jennifer Johnson: Today we welcome back into the studio Fernando Torres, and he is with S Taxes.
- 0:42Jennifer Johnson: Welcome back.
- 0:43Fernando Torres: Thank you so much.
- 0:44Jennifer Johnson: You were on our last podcast.
- 0:45Jennifer Johnson: We chatted about what's new for 2024, for taxes, and, wow, I learned a lot, thank you.
- 0:52Jennifer Johnson: Now I want to know about business write-offs.
- 0:55Jennifer Johnson: Okay, like everybody wants to know, right, what can I write off?
- 0:58Jennifer Johnson: What do I have to do to not pay taxes or get a refund?
- 1:01Jennifer Johnson: Yes, so what are?
- 1:08Fernando Torres: some common business write-offs that we can legitimately take advantage of.
- 1:10Fernando Torres: Sure, the first nugget that I want to give out is that one of the biggest strategies that I utilize is having each type of tax structure.
- 1:17Fernando Torres: So each tax structure provides you different benefits and different deductions.
- 1:23Fernando Torres: So, for example, the C-Corp there's the.
- 1:26Fernando Torres: S-Corp, there's the single member LLC.
- 1:28Fernando Torres: Those allow you to write off different things, and so a lot of newbies into the business world, even people who are seasoned, they don't take advantage of this.
- 1:40Fernando Torres: They're stuck with one structure for their entire business life and they're limited to what they can deduct.
- 1:45Fernando Torres: So, for example, c Corp, the C Corp.
- 1:49Fernando Torres: I love the C Corp.
- 1:50Fernando Torres: A lot of people don't, a lot of CPAs don't, but it allows the business owner to deduct a lot of fringe benefits.
- 1:56Fernando Torres: So, like medical expenses, I have a family and medical expenses can be heavy some years.
- 2:01Fernando Torres: I have a son who has eye issues and so we have some out-of-pocket costs, things like that.
- 2:07Fernando Torres: There's a tax law that allows for health insurance reimbursement.
- 2:12Fernando Torres: I take full advantage of that, and so that's available to the C-Corp for owners of the C-Corp.
- 2:21Jennifer Johnson: So the question about that and this may be.
- 2:23Jennifer Johnson: I don't know the answer, but is it true that if you're a C-Corp, an LLC has more I don't know legal protection for the owner than a C-Corp?
- 2:37Jennifer Johnson: Is that true or is that fictitious?
- 2:39Fernando Torres: They're the same.
- 2:40Fernando Torres: It would be the sole proprietor.
- 2:42Fernando Torres: So if I'm Fernando Torres just working as a tax preparer, I don't have as much protection as if I was an LLC or corporation.
- 2:50Fernando Torres: So they both basically do the same.
- 2:52Fernando Torres: It's just how things are structured and how things are taxed.
- 2:57Fernando Torres: That's the difference between a corporation and an LLC.
- 2:59Jennifer Johnson: And for our listeners who may not know.
- 3:01Jennifer Johnson: When do you determine what type of business you are?
- 3:04Fernando Torres: So I would say the easiest structure is the LLC.
- 3:08Fernando Torres: So when you first start you'll be that single member LLC and it's the least expensive.
- 3:13Fernando Torres: You register with whichever state you're in and then maybe you get the local licenses and permits and all that stuff.
- 3:18Fernando Torres: Even if you're a home-based business you still need a home-based license with the county or city.
- 3:23Fernando Torres: I would say that's the easiest because a lot of people treat their business account as a piggy bank.
- 3:28Fernando Torres: So as you upgrade to corporation you need to be careful on how you withdraw money.
- 3:35Fernando Torres: So C-Corp is the strictest.
- 3:37Fernando Torres: You can't take any money out unless it's a repayment of a loan or a payroll.
- 3:45Fernando Torres: So you can't do distributions from a C Corp.
- 3:49Fernando Torres: That's only available to S Corps and LLCs and sole proprietors.
- 3:53Jennifer Johnson: Okay, otherwise you're basically just taking money from the company.
- 3:56Jennifer Johnson: Yeah, how it's looked at.
- 3:58Fernando Torres: Yes, so you have your company.
- 4:00Fernando Torres: Let's say you have an LLC.
- 4:01Fernando Torres: You have your company and you make $10,000 on a contract.
- 4:06Fernando Torres: That's pure profit.
- 4:07Fernando Torres: You can take it out of the business, but it's still taxable, of course, because taking $10,000 out for personal use is personal income and so you have to set up systems.
- 4:19Fernando Torres: So, going back to your original question, when does it make sense to maybe change structures?
- 4:24Fernando Torres: They say usually around $40,000 to $50,000 of profit from an LLC that you should think about converting to an S-corp.
- 4:32Fernando Torres: Okay, but not a C corporation, okay.
- 4:48Fernando Torres: But if you come to me as your tax preparer and I know you're disciplined and you have family and you want to be able to write off most of these fringe benefits I will push you to C-Corp.
- 5:01Fernando Torres: But it's very rare.
- 5:02Fernando Torres: Most people who come in.
- 5:05Fernando Torres: They have to be trained and their mindset has to change, right.
- 5:08Jennifer Johnson: What other business write-offs are there out there that we may not?
- 5:11Jennifer Johnson: We know that there's the meals and all of that, but what else is there that we may not be taking advantage of?
- 5:18Fernando Torres: Sure, I think a big one is.
- 5:20Fernando Torres: Like I said, I'm an employee of my C corporation and I get an achievement award.
- 5:26Fernando Torres: So that allows me to get a tangible gift from the business, tax-free.
- 5:32Fernando Torres: It can't be cash, it can't be a gift card, it can't be a ticket to like a sporting event or to like a Ruba or something like that.
- 5:40Fernando Torres: It has to be something tangible.
- 5:41Fernando Torres: So when you hear I don't know if you watch movies or whatever, this is where I see it where somebody retires and they get that gold watch, so that value for 2023 and 2024 is at $1,600.
- 5:56Fernando Torres: So what is an achievement?
- 5:59Fernando Torres: So it's Probably if you're in a manufacturing industry, if there's no accidents for a year, that could be an achievement.
- 6:10Fernando Torres: Or you're with a company for the year, five years, 20 years IRS actually has it within the publication when you can award this.
- 6:21Jennifer Johnson: And you can award it to yourself.
- 6:23Fernando Torres: If you're a C-corp.
- 6:24Jennifer Johnson: If you're a C-corp, you can be like oh, I had a great year, I'm going to go out and buy that Louis bag If it's under $1,600.
- 6:30Fernando Torres: Correct If it's more than it becomes taxable income, the difference.
- 6:34Jennifer Johnson: Oh my gosh.
- 6:35Jennifer Johnson: So how does it work?
- 6:37Jennifer Johnson: Now that we're on the subject Bonuses, employee bonuses Okay, bonuses, they have to be put in their check to be taken out.
- 6:46Jennifer Johnson: You can't just give them a gift card, you can't just give them cash.
- 6:50Jennifer Johnson: How is that looked at?
- 6:52Jennifer Johnson: How does that work?
- 6:53Fernando Torres: So another great deduction is gifts.
- 6:55Fernando Torres: I think people underutilize that.
- 6:57Fernando Torres: I use it all the time.
- 7:05Jennifer Johnson: I have multiple businesses, so I gift to each businesses, but it's technically at $25 per person per year.
- 7:08Jennifer Johnson: Oh, that's it.
- 7:08Jennifer Johnson: Yeah, I know it sucks.
- 7:08Fernando Torres: Oh my gosh Because people would take advantage of it.
- 7:10Jennifer Johnson: Right.
- 7:11Fernando Torres: And so if you give $25, that's tax-free to the recipient, the employee.
- 7:16Fernando Torres: If you go beyond that, then it becomes taxable and you run it through payroll Right and so you're paying payroll taxes and you have two options of the withholding.
- 7:27Fernando Torres: Sometimes I don't know if you've heard people who get like $100,000 of a bonus or something.
- 7:32Jennifer Johnson: Wow, I would like that yeah.
- 7:34Fernando Torres: I've heard people get big bonuses and I'm astonished because it's more than what I make and so there's two withholdings.
- 7:42Fernando Torres: So there's a bonus withholding.
- 7:43Fernando Torres: It's usually 25% or you can just use the regular tax bracket that they're in.
- 7:47Fernando Torres: But usually people will take the bigger portion because they might owe more with this extra $100,000 plus their regular W-2.
- 7:56Jennifer Johnson: So what are the benefits of taking some of these write-offs?
- 8:00Fernando Torres: Of course it's a comfort of life lifestyle.
- 8:04Fernando Torres: So, like I said, for me I'm paying for.
- 8:07Fernando Torres: The business is paying for my health insurance and my medical out-of-pocket medical costs, so I don't have to take that as payroll self 75%.
- 8:20Fernando Torres: And then also that income is also not taxed because, let's say, I need to make $10,000 to pay for my out-of-pocket health insurance.
- 8:34Fernando Torres: That's going to be taxed and then that's going to be reportable in my tax return.
- 8:38Fernando Torres: So you're potentially paying two taxes.
- 8:42Jennifer Johnson: Double taxed right yeah.
- 8:43Fernando Torres: Wow.
- 8:44Fernando Torres: So, yeah, I think just knowing knowledge is power.
- 8:48Fernando Torres: It is, and so that's what a good CPA should do is provide you with that service that they know and can help you with the write-offs.
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- 9:27Jennifer Johnson: Welcome back, friends.
- 9:29Jennifer Johnson: We are back in the studio with Fernando Torres from Serro Tax Services.
- 9:34Jennifer Johnson: Did I say that right?
- 9:35Jennifer Johnson: It's Serro Taxes.
- 9:36Fernando Torres: There's no services, no, no services.
- 9:38Fernando Torres: Serro Taxes.
- 9:40Jennifer Johnson: DBA.
- 9:41Jennifer Johnson: All right, we're talking all about write-offs today, and I find it very fascinating, just because it's the way to save money.
- 9:50Jennifer Johnson: It's the way to not avoid paying taxes, but to get more bang for your buck, I guess.
- 9:58Jennifer Johnson: So how can businesses maximize their write-offs?
- 10:03Fernando Torres: The biggest thing is understanding what their tax structure allows them.
- 10:08Jennifer Johnson: Which is what the S-corp C-corp yes.
- 10:09Fernando Torres: C-corp, yes, and utilizing your CPA.
- 10:12Fernando Torres: I think the biggest misconception is that when you hire a CPA that they're going to do everything for you.
- 10:21Fernando Torres: You have to communicate with your CPA what are you going to provide me for this fee?
- 10:28Fernando Torres: So if somebody comes to me at the end of the year, I'm assuming that they're going to use me just for tax prep, but I'm available all year round for tax consultation.
- 10:37Fernando Torres: So I think that's the biggest thing to help a business get to one, get systems in place, and to utilize somebody else's expertise to help you with deductions.
- 10:54Jennifer Johnson: And I think I totally agree with that, because you know, back in when I started my company, that's what we thought of our accountant was oh well, they're the one time a year to do our taxes.
- 11:00Jennifer Johnson: But the more you get into your business, the more seasoned you are, the more you realize how beneficial having that meeting maybe once a quarter how often would you suggest, because I know that's important?
- 11:15Fernando Torres: Sure, yeah.
- 11:15Fernando Torres: So I want to do quarterly.
- 11:18Fernando Torres: It's really tough because I've had a growing company and so you just get bogged down with the accounting and then you get late clients and you do catch up work and so it's just an endless cycle of more and more work, because if you do a good job you're going to get referrals and you're just going to naturally grow.
- 11:34Fernando Torres: So my goal for 2024 is to do quarterly, and a good CPA should be doing quarterly as well, if not at least once a year, definitely once a year, hopefully by the fourth quarter.
- 11:46Jennifer Johnson: Once a year, but not the once a year do my taxes, so you're really seeing them twice a year.
- 11:50Jennifer Johnson: Yes, essentially, if you look at it that way, do you have some tips for our listeners how they can keep track of the write-offs that they're doing?
- 11:59Fernando Torres: Yes.
- 11:59Fernando Torres: So I usually recommend, if they're a small business with 20 transactions or less, just print out your statement and then write next to it what it's for, so you have a check.
- 12:11Fernando Torres: For example, check one, two, three, four.
- 12:13Fernando Torres: The IRS doesn't know what that is, they don't have a copy of the image, but if you can write it, it was to John Smith for repairs and maintenance of your office, something along that line.
- 12:24Fernando Torres: And then I would say, once you get beyond 20 transactions, you can use a program like Sage, quickbooks, wave App, xero I think there's a few more.
- 12:34Fernando Torres: That's probably the best.
- 12:36Fernando Torres: So as you grow, you want better systems.
- 12:39Jennifer Johnson: That makes complete sense.
- 12:40Jennifer Johnson: Okay, this is a big one for our listeners, because I know everybody has this on their mind at some point and they're all freaked out about it, because I would be too.
- 12:48Jennifer Johnson: How, as a business, can you prevent being audited, or can you prevent that Sure?
- 12:56Fernando Torres: I would say first, don't DIY if you have a business.
- 13:00Fernando Torres: Second, don't go for the preparer who says they can get you the biggest refund preparer who says they can get you the biggest refund being in the Miami-Florida area, there's a lot of fraud and it's already known that Miami-Florida has a lot of financial fraud, and so I picked up clients who've dealt with these poor preparers and what they do is they promise the world that you can deduct 100% of your home, 100% of your car Basically anything that hits your personal piggy bank is going to be tax deductible.
- 13:31Fernando Torres: So just stay away from those people.
- 13:34Fernando Torres: Reviews people can fudge with reviews and things like that.
- 13:39Fernando Torres: Just ask a friend, family, whatever it is, another business colleague, maybe join a BNI or mass network, something like that, and you'll have somebody reputable to help you prepare for that tax return.
- 13:52Jennifer Johnson: Yeah, because otherwise you're opening yourself up, I'm sure.
- 13:56Fernando Torres: Yes, and so that's the first step, and then the next.
- 13:58Fernando Torres: Everybody's going to say it again documentation.
- 14:01Fernando Torres: As long as you have a box where all your expenses are, that's fine, I'll take that any day.
- 14:07Fernando Torres: Expenses are, that's fine, I'll take that any day.
- 14:09Fernando Torres: And the problem is is when you need something, those receipts become faded over time.
- 14:14Fernando Torres: So I don't know if you've kept receipts for years they become faded.
- 14:21Fernando Torres: It's just the type of paper and the ink that they use, and so that's why having the bank statements there within all one pile will be great.
- 14:25Fernando Torres: In case something happens and you do get audited, what do they do about that?
- 14:29Jennifer Johnson: Sorry, the time faded the thing.
- 14:34Fernando Torres: So hopefully you still have your bank statements, because if you pay cash, your receipt is your defense Right.
- 14:38Fernando Torres: So what happens is, if you can't defend your deduction, they will usually and if it's something that doesn't look like it's business related, they will definitely put it in as distribution.
- 14:50Fernando Torres: And then if you have a C corporation, then that could be a dividend and you're going to pay the dividend tax which could be a mess.
- 14:58Jennifer Johnson: What is dividend tax?
- 14:59Fernando Torres: So the C corp pays the tax of any profit.
- 15:03Fernando Torres: So how do you take the profit out of the business?
- 15:06Fernando Torres: You have a loss the following year or you do a dividend which is, depending on the timeframe of the earnings.
- 15:15Fernando Torres: It could be taxed at your taxable income rate, which right now the highest tax bracket is 37%, or long term, it could be either from zero, depending on your income, all the way up to 20%.
- 15:28Jennifer Johnson: But if you are an S-corp or any other, then you pay your taxes as your business personally.
- 15:33Jennifer Johnson: Is that correct?
- 15:34Fernando Torres: Correct.
- 15:34Fernando Torres: Yeah, so you're going to get a K-1 from the business showing your profit and your distributions and anything else that's taxable, and then you put that on your personal tax return and spits out whatever tax liability or refund you get.
- 15:46Jennifer Johnson: I see Interesting.
- 15:47Jennifer Johnson: Is there any other tax information that you wish your clients or future clients knew?
- 15:56Jennifer Johnson: What do our listeners need to be enriched or enlightened on from your world?
- 16:02Fernando Torres: So I would say, if you're going to DIY it, the proper publication, the proper source is big.
- 16:10Fernando Torres: So are you getting?
- 16:11Fernando Torres: Are you reading articles from, let's say, accounting today, a CPA journal, maybe from another reputable CPA?
- 16:19Fernando Torres: Are you just Googling because you see TikTok videos?
- 16:23Fernando Torres: I hate TikTok videos, oh my gosh.
- 16:25Fernando Torres: My client sent me hey, is this something that you can do?
- 16:28Fernando Torres: And so TikTok videos is like it's 15 minutes, I'm sorry, 15 seconds of the sexy write-off.
- 16:36Fernando Torres: How like?
- 16:36Fernando Torres: Okay, the Augusta rule, Like you can rent your-.
- 16:40Fernando Torres: What is the Augusta rule?
- 16:41Fernando Torres: So the Augusta rule is it became because of the wording came from the Masters Tournament.
- 16:47Fernando Torres: It's a golf tournament, so you have all these beautiful homes around the golf course and people were just renting it out for the tournament.
- 16:54Fernando Torres: So if you rent your house out for, let's say, $5,000 a night for 14 days or less, that's actually cheap tax-free income to the owner.
- 17:04Fernando Torres: Wow.
- 17:04Fernando Torres: So yeah, like I said, there's great tax levels.
- 17:07Fernando Torres: You just have to know where to find it, who to trust and be able to apply so that you're not taxed.
- 17:15Jennifer Johnson: Right, wow, so that's a really good nugget.
- 17:18Jennifer Johnson: What else?
- 17:20Fernando Torres: Let's see.
- 17:21Fernando Torres: Sorry, what was the original question?
- 17:24Jennifer Johnson: In your world.
- 17:25Jennifer Johnson: What do you wish that people knew?
- 17:28Fernando Torres: Okay, so a reputable source.
- 17:31Fernando Torres: Don't listen to TikTok or Instagram.
- 17:34Fernando Torres: The fake news.
- 17:35Fernando Torres: Yeah, utilize an expert early on.
- 17:40Fernando Torres: You go.
- 17:41Fernando Torres: I know I do the same thing.
- 17:43Fernando Torres: Something happens, I have a runny nose, my throat hurts.
- 17:45Fernando Torres: What do?
- 17:45Fernando Torres: we do, we go online first Dr Google, we all.
- 17:46Fernando Torres: Something happens.
- 17:46Fernando Torres: I have a runny nose, my throat hurts.
- 17:48Fernando Torres: What do we do?
- 17:48Fernando Torres: We go online first Dr Google, yeah, dr Google, and then it gets serious.
- 17:51Fernando Torres: Then, okay, we go to the doctor urgent care, whatever it is.
- 17:54Fernando Torres: As a business owner, you specialize in whatever you do.
- 17:58Fernando Torres: You're a plumber, you specialize in that industry.
- 18:02Fernando Torres: Go ahead and start delegating that industry.
- 18:07Fernando Torres: Go ahead and start delegating.
- 18:08Fernando Torres: That's how you're going to grow your business.
- 18:09Fernando Torres: But if you want to be that person who just has their own business, just for lifestyle, you don't want to worry about staff, you don't want to worry about anything, then, like I said, make sure you use the right publications, the right resources, right?
- 18:19Jennifer Johnson: You know that's right, go ahead.
- 18:20Jennifer Johnson: No, that's a great tip.
- 18:22Jennifer Johnson: You're right, because, tiktok, everybody becomes an expert, right, and nobody really knows.
- 18:29Jennifer Johnson: And what can you tell me in 15 seconds?
- 18:31Jennifer Johnson: That's going to grab my attention.
- 18:32Jennifer Johnson: That's really going to be legit.
- 18:33Jennifer Johnson: Employing your kids, so that's one that's been going around I have heard, yes, that you can pay your children up to a certain dollar amount.
- 18:43Jennifer Johnson: Correct, yes, it's $13,000?
- 18:44Jennifer Johnson: .
- 18:44Jennifer Johnson: Yes, the standard deduction rate.
- 18:45Fernando Torres: I think it's $13,000?
- 18:46Fernando Torres: .
- 18:46Fernando Torres: Yes, the standard deduction rate, I think, is about $13,000.
- 18:49Fernando Torres: Now, is that true?
- 18:50Fernando Torres: Yes, it's true.
- 18:51Fernando Torres: You just have to do it the right way though.
- 18:52Fernando Torres: Okay, so I know we have 15 seconds, but they have to be on payroll, a legit payroll service, or, if you do it by hand, you still have to do the 941s, w-2, w-3, all that fun jazz stuff.
- 19:05Jennifer Johnson: Got it, but you can pay your child.
- 19:06Jennifer Johnson: Yeah, very cool.
- 19:07Jennifer Johnson: Well, fernando, if our listeners would like to get a hold of you, how can they do so?
- 19:12Fernando Torres: Sure.
- 19:12Fernando Torres: My email is info@serro taxes.
- 19:17Fernando Torres: com S-E-R-R-O.
- 19:18Fernando Torres: My cell phone is 954-999-2300.
- 19:21Fernando Torres: And you can text me.
- 19:22Fernando Torres: Call me.
- 19:23Jennifer Johnson: Fabulous it's been great having you back.
- 19:24Jennifer Johnson: Thank you!