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Wired To Hunt Podcast #232: Rut Radio 9/12/18 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyon. This episode number two hundred and
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Speaker 1: thirty two, and we are back today with another one
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Speaker 1: of our radio episodes in which we're getting real time
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Speaker 1: from the field updates on what's happening across the woods
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Speaker 1: as far as deer activity, dear behavior, and the tactics
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Speaker 1: that are working right now. All right, welcome to Wired
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Speaker 1: to Hunt's radio brought to you by on X. This
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Speaker 1: is your host Spencer new Hearth, and on the other
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Speaker 1: end is Mark Kenyon, now returned home from North Dakota,
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Speaker 1: but having some technical difficulties. What's going on, Mark? Yeah, Uh,
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Speaker 1: I forgot my podcast Mike in Montana in my truck.
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Speaker 1: I flew home from Montana because I'm only home for
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Speaker 1: a week and I'm flying back out for ELK Hunt.
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Speaker 1: So I've got an old podcast Mike at home that
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Speaker 1: I thought would work, but it is not working right now.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm calling this from my cell phone. So
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Speaker 1: thanks for for dealing with that and in running the
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Speaker 1: show today, Spencer. But another radio right, Um, what do
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Speaker 1: we have in store for this week's episode? We have
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Speaker 1: four hunters from across the nation. We start off with
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Speaker 1: Lee Ellis from Seek One Productions in Georgia. Then we
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Speaker 1: talked to Mark Knight in Kansas from Midwest White Tail Adventures.
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Speaker 1: And then we go to Maryland and from Sons of Fall.
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Speaker 1: We talked to Paul Lauber, and then we have Trent
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Speaker 1: Siegel from Heartland bow Hunter in Wyoming. Sounds like a
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Speaker 1: good slate. Um, do we have a South Dakota update? Uh? My,
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Speaker 1: my South Dakota update? It is is that it has
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Speaker 1: been really poor for me. Um. The hope of getting
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Speaker 1: a velvet buck is gone. Most of my deer now
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Speaker 1: are polished, including Dan, the deer that I was after. UM.
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Speaker 1: And I haunted like I think it was six or
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Speaker 1: seven out of those first ten days. And it was
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Speaker 1: honestly probably the worst string of haunts I've ever put together.
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Speaker 1: It was really poor, really poor. UM. Not a lot
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Speaker 1: of deer movement for me, a lot of mosquitoes, UM.
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Speaker 1: And the problem was that I was focusing on haunting
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Speaker 1: like the obvious food sources like soybeans, but the deer,
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Speaker 1: we're not having any of it. I was experiencing like
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Speaker 1: what most people consider the law UH in early September,
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Speaker 1: and normally I don't even see the law that much
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Speaker 1: come October, and so I think for the the area
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Speaker 1: that I'm at, it got pushed up to to this early. UM.
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Speaker 1: And there's just so much other food sources available. You
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Speaker 1: take a walk in the woods and you find that
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Speaker 1: there are uh, there's tons of reg weeed available, that
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Speaker 1: the beggar's lice, the wild plums are available, apples are falling.
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Speaker 1: UH is something that's hugely underrated as mushrooms. And we've
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Speaker 1: had some cooler, rainier weather and so there are all
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Speaker 1: kinds of different edible mushrooms available. UM. And so did
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Speaker 1: you just have no use for soybeans? And my time
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Speaker 1: spent watching those soybean fields has not gone well, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's disappointing. So South Dakota not real hot right now. UM.
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Speaker 1: Any kind of general consensus from folks who've talked to
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Speaker 1: so far as as as far as what kind of
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Speaker 1: stuff we're seeing across the rest of the country has
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Speaker 1: been good, bad, anything high level you can tell me.
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Speaker 1: Across the runch rest of the country, it has been
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Speaker 1: pretty solid um. You know from the people I talked
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Speaker 1: to you this week, you can still catch them those
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Speaker 1: year at the end of their summer patterns. Um Uh.
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Speaker 1: As far as buck movements, they're starting to break up
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Speaker 1: in those batch the group those are just about gone.
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Speaker 1: And then the deer getting polished handlers as well, And
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Speaker 1: so there's a lot of thoughts that the movement is
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Speaker 1: starting gonna become a little bit more nocturnal uh as
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Speaker 1: more seasons open up. As far as there's some firearms
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Speaker 1: seasons across the nation that are opening, um, some different
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Speaker 1: anner list seasons that are opening. And so with that
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Speaker 1: increased deer pressure and the loss of those summer patterns, um,
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Speaker 1: it sounds like right now is the time in September
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Speaker 1: to get a buck on the ground. Otherwise you know
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Speaker 1: it'll be a steady decrease until we get to October. Interesting, Well,
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Speaker 1: I can I can report from North Dakota a little
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Speaker 1: bit for you if if you want that. We were
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Speaker 1: out there at the end of last week. You know,
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Speaker 1: since I failed my Montana tag and as far as activity,
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Speaker 1: i'd give it probably like a a four out of ten.
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Speaker 1: Probably it's pretty poor. Um. I don't want to give
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Speaker 1: away too much because I'm gonna talk about this on
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Speaker 1: the main show Dan this week. But UM had a
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Speaker 1: pretty tough go at. It didn't see a whole lot
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Speaker 1: of activity. UM. We had one night we went to
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Speaker 1: a new area and found some deer that were feeding
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Speaker 1: on what looked like, um, a cover crop that's been
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Speaker 1: planted in a field. UM that maybe could be something
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Speaker 1: like turn ups, some kind of brassica. It sort of
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Speaker 1: looked like coming out of the ground. UM. That was
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Speaker 1: the one thing we were able to key in on
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Speaker 1: for one hunt where there was some some good daily activity.
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Speaker 1: Otherwise slim pickings, hot weather, not a lot of movement.
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Speaker 1: So now I'm now I'm back in Michigan for a
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Speaker 1: little bit, looking forward to October one for my next
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Speaker 1: white tail hunt and hopefully better conditions. Then. Yeah, And
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Speaker 1: I don't think what I've been seeing in South Dakota's uh,
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Speaker 1: indicative of what's going on in the rest of the
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Speaker 1: state or the rest of the nation for that matter.
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Speaker 1: It's just that how my property set up. It is
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Speaker 1: either very safe haunts on the field that just looking
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Speaker 1: at so soybeans, or it's really aggressive haunts. UM, the
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Speaker 1: kind of stands that I you know, wouldn't be in
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Speaker 1: until we get to the end of October. And so
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Speaker 1: I just, um don't have very many good options for
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Speaker 1: this time of year when there's so much other food available.
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Speaker 1: And one good, uh glimpse that I got into that is,
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Speaker 1: for one of my setups, there are two trails that
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Speaker 1: come by. One is it like twenty three yards and
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Speaker 1: the other ones at like thirty one. And to keep
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Speaker 1: those deer at the twenty three yard trail, I cut
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Speaker 1: off a large branch from the tree that I'm in.
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Speaker 1: I believe it's an ash tree, and I covered up
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Speaker 1: that trail um and some doze and her fonds came
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Speaker 1: by the other night and they actually stood there eating
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Speaker 1: on the leaves from that tree. And so it's just
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Speaker 1: a a you know, a good glimpse of all the
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Speaker 1: different food available to these deer that they don't even
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Speaker 1: need to make it to the soybeans that are a
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Speaker 1: hundred yards away. They could just stay in there and
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Speaker 1: eat all this other green stuff available. Yep, that's uh,
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Speaker 1: that could be a challenge when they're not keenan and
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Speaker 1: the thing that you're keen and us I hear you're there, Well,
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Speaker 1: I I'm interested to hear what you got today. It
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Speaker 1: sounds like we've got a good diverse group of folks. Um.
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Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of people that are kicking
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Speaker 1: off their seasons here soon. There are a lot of
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Speaker 1: September fifteen openers coming up, I think, so I'm sure
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Speaker 1: people will be curious to hear what's happening in the
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Speaker 1: woods now and what to look forward to the next week.
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Speaker 1: So i'd say, Spencer, I'm good to go, unless you've
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Speaker 1: got any other updates you need to share before we
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Speaker 1: get this thing Kickstarter. Nope, you figure out your mic
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Speaker 1: before the next episode and we'll talk to you next week.
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Speaker 1: Mark sounds good, Thanks Spencer. Before we get to our
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Speaker 1: don't move. They're not on their feet as much in
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Speaker 1: the South until the rug gets here. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: know that's common in the in the Midwest too, but
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Speaker 1: the many times you won't see a deer in the
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Speaker 1: Backslash Ferris that's f A R R I s are
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Speaker 1: enjoining us online. First is Lee Ellis of Seek one
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Speaker 1: Productions in Georgia. Elee in Georgia. What would you say
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Speaker 1: the buck activity is been lately on a scale of
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Speaker 1: one to ten UM, I'd probably say it's it's probably
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Speaker 1: been like a seven. Um. It's been pretty good, but
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Speaker 1: it's also been really hot, and I think it's caused
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Speaker 1: a lot of these deer to kind of lay up
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Speaker 1: during the day and use more night time. But um,
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Speaker 1: if you can get close enough to their bedroom, Um,
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Speaker 1: these deer are still in their summer areas. Um, so
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Speaker 1: it's still been pretty good. There's still been We've been
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Speaker 1: seeing plenty of bucks. Um, there's been some guys around
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Speaker 1: us that have had some success to Lee, give us
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a background on what your setups
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Speaker 1: look like right now, and I tell the audience, Uh,
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Speaker 1: you know the kind of environment that you guys hunt in. Yeah. So,
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Speaker 1: our we're based out of Atlanta. Our environment is constantly changing.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's um tighter areas of neighborhoods. Sometimes it's you know,
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Speaker 1: we've got spots acres. But we're constantly looking for these
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Speaker 1: summering areas where these bucks like to spend their summertime
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Speaker 1: growing out their antlers. And it absolutely has to revolve
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Speaker 1: around their food source. Um. We like to look for
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Speaker 1: areas that have a lot of kud zoo and that's
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Speaker 1: a m just a really it's similar lab lab. It's
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Speaker 1: a really viny and it just vinny plant and it
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Speaker 1: grows into a jungle and it's just got these really
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Speaker 1: really big leaves that are high in protein. So these
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Speaker 1: deer came get in these areas with kud zoo and disappear.
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Speaker 1: It's just really really thick cover and they can get
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Speaker 1: up and have an absolute buffet in front of them
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Speaker 1: all day. Um, so we try and key it on
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Speaker 1: areas like that, Uh, where there's cuds do around that
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Speaker 1: always seems to hold bachelor versus bucks this time of year.
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Speaker 1: So um, success finding that cud zoo is that like
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Speaker 1: something right out of someone's backyard A weorre they and
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Speaker 1: kind of yeah, I mean industrial areas along roadways, you'd
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Speaker 1: be very very surprised, uh, just driving down the roads
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Speaker 1: and whatnot where you see big patches of cud do
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Speaker 1: because it's used for erosion and along roadways and stuff
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Speaker 1: like that, but it grows so fast that it ventures
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Speaker 1: on back into the woods and sometimes right off these
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Speaker 1: roads there will be these massive cud doo patches and
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Speaker 1: people drive by them don't even think twice about them.
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Speaker 1: But usually more often times than not, there there's a
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Speaker 1: batchel of group that will grow out and a good
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Speaker 1: cud doo patch in the summer. So really, I mean,
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Speaker 1: we we do a lot of work on you know,
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Speaker 1: Google maps and whatnot, but a lot of times it's
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Speaker 1: just kind of pounding the pavement and actually laying eyes
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Speaker 1: on where the cuts is growing. Now, how are you
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Speaker 1: finding these dear early season. Are you scouting in person
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Speaker 1: out there glassing small properties? Are you just running a
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Speaker 1: lot of trail cameras? We do a mixed at of everything.
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Speaker 1: We're we'll glass these uh cud do patches and it's
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Speaker 1: I mean it's like clockwork. In the evenings when they're
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Speaker 1: growing out, they'll hop up thirty minutes before dark and
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Speaker 1: get up and get feed. And so we do a
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Speaker 1: lot of glassing around different cuds do patches. You can
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Speaker 1: get a pretty good idea of, um, you know, what's
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Speaker 1: in the area doing that. But we also run at
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Speaker 1: any given time probably forty cams. UM. So we're just
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Speaker 1: keeping as many eyes out there as we can. And
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Speaker 1: when we get into an area where we've identified a
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Speaker 1: buck that we want to go after, instead of having
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Speaker 1: our forty or fifty cameras kind of spread all throughout,
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Speaker 1: once we find a deer that we want to hunt,
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Speaker 1: kind of full you know, seven or eight of those
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Speaker 1: cameras and concentrate him in that area and really try
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Speaker 1: and kind of lock down exactly where that year is
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Speaker 1: spending most of his time, where he's most comfortable. UM.
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Speaker 1: So it's it's a lot of trail camera work and
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Speaker 1: I think identify. Suying a buck's bedroom this time of
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Speaker 1: year is super super key because there they're pretty predictable,
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Speaker 1: still in this phase where they're still in their summer areas.
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Speaker 1: They're still getting up and feeding. Um I think you know,
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Speaker 1: in the next week or so they're gonna begin to
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Speaker 1: kind of branch out of those areas. Um So this time,
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Speaker 1: you know, the next week or so, we actually have
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Speaker 1: to go rEFInd a lot of our year because they've
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Speaker 1: left their summering areas. So it's kind of that that
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Speaker 1: first weekend, first week where those bucks are still in
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Speaker 1: that area. But you know, sometimes we'll actually, you know,
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Speaker 1: we'll have a bunch of cameras in one area looking
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Speaker 1: for a certain buck, and he'll be showing up on
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Speaker 1: all of them, but he'll be showing up, you know,
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Speaker 1: closer to daylight on this camera, and we'll kind of
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Speaker 1: use clues and things like that to figure out which
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Speaker 1: direction he's coming from and really locked down his bedroom area.
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Speaker 1: And sometimes you can miss it as little as a
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Speaker 1: hundred yards, and that means that can be the difference
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Speaker 1: of seeing that buck on the hoof and daylight or
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Speaker 1: have him come in you know, fifteen twenty minutes after
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Speaker 1: shooting light. Sometimes it's that small the change that makes
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Speaker 1: all the difference. I know you said that you'll be
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Speaker 1: changing your strategy here in about a week or so. Um.
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Speaker 1: Is that because the cud zoo is no longer relevant
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Speaker 1: or is that something that you'll focus on all season long. No,
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Speaker 1: So they leave the cuds do here. Um basically the
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Speaker 1: first week they'll leave it. They'll come back to it
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Speaker 1: on occasion, but they really start switching to um, you know,
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Speaker 1: your acorns and things like that as they start to fall. Uh. Plus,
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Speaker 1: I just think they get really anty and they're you know,
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Speaker 1: dropping their velvet. Their hormones are starting to get going,
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Speaker 1: their testoscerones starting to pump, and they just I feel
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Speaker 1: like they just have to move around. They're starting to
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Speaker 1: venture more, um, kind of checking out the areas that
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Speaker 1: they may go on the rut and things like that. Um.
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Speaker 1: But they'll sometimes they'll completely abandon these summer areas and
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Speaker 1: will not come back until late late in the year.
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Speaker 1: So UM, we used their summering areas as a clue.
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Speaker 1: But kind of in the next week when they started
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Speaker 1: to leave, we got to go back into the phase
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Speaker 1: of of getting as many areas as we can to
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Speaker 1: put cameras out and kind of refine where the deer
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Speaker 1: went going forward. Then this next week or so, what
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Speaker 1: do you think that buck activity is going to be
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Speaker 1: on a skille of one to ten in Georgia. I
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Speaker 1: think that it's probably gonna drop. I think that people
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Speaker 1: will probably get more tryl camera pictures of new deer
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Speaker 1: and things like that. I don't think it's gonna be
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Speaker 1: a ton of daytime activity. Um So I expect your
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Speaker 1: your daytime activity of Bucks to drop, but I also
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Speaker 1: expect um for people to probably getting more pictures of
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Speaker 1: new bucks that are kind of leaving their summer areas
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Speaker 1: and venturing in the new places. It's kind of a
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Speaker 1: a double edged deal there where. Uh. I think it's
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Speaker 1: gonna be tougher in the next week two get a
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Speaker 1: get a mature buck in daylight. But at the same time,
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Speaker 1: I think that people are gonna be seeing new deer
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Speaker 1: that they can kind of begin to figure out and
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Speaker 1: put the pieces together on we guys can follow along
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Speaker 1: with their hunts at the Seek one Productions Facebook page
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Speaker 1: or check out their show long Carbon TV Suburban Bowlhunter. Lee.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me in good luck this year in Atlanta. Awesome,
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Speaker 1: thanks man alright and joining us on the line next
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Speaker 1: is Mark Knight in Kansas from Midwest White Tail Adventures.
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Speaker 1: Mark on the skill of one to ten. What would
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Speaker 1: you say the buck activity has been lately? I think
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Speaker 1: this week for our youth season here in Kansas is
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Speaker 1: probably we'll give the six out of a ten. Um.
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Speaker 1: I think, you know, so you've got a few things
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Speaker 1: working against us. Uh. Early last week, you know, dear,
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Speaker 1: we're all in velvet, very very patable season starting on Saturday. Uh.
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Speaker 1: You know, some food sources were changing a little bit.
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Speaker 1: The beans and the crops looked really good. Um. I
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Speaker 1: think you know this time of year, you dear, start
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Speaker 1: separating and they start, you know, kind of out who's
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Speaker 1: who's who, and and it gets a little tougher. And
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Speaker 1: I think that's kind of what happened to us since
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Speaker 1: this past week. And how is this season compared to
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Speaker 1: seasons past when it comes to having successful youth hunters.
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Speaker 1: Last year we had um ten uth hunters. We went
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Speaker 1: eight for ten, killed two over one seventy men also
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Speaker 1: killed one. It's like one sixty five. This year our
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Speaker 1: best there is and this you know this a week later,
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Speaker 1: this year, So you know that I changed things for us.
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Speaker 1: I didn't really realize how how it was gonna be
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Speaker 1: being a week later, but you know it definitely we
18:37
Speaker 1: had to make some adjustments and to to get on
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Speaker 1: the deer like, you know, like we did last year.
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Speaker 1: It is September eleventh as we are recording this, and
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Speaker 1: and what percentage of bucks would you say still have velvet.
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Speaker 1: There's some smaller ones that still got it, but the
18:53
Speaker 1: big mature ones are definitely. Um what we're seeing on
18:55
Speaker 1: cameras now that they've all they've all shed their their
18:58
Speaker 1: figure hard hearted now I know in that part of
19:01
Speaker 1: the country. Uh, the rain has been kind of spotty
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Speaker 1: this summer in this fall. How it has been for
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Speaker 1: you guys, and has that affected the food sources at all?
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Speaker 1: Early season, you know, early in the year, um cancels
19:14
Speaker 1: in a in a pretty good drought. But we started
19:17
Speaker 1: getting the rain. We started getting the rain and everything
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Speaker 1: got really good. Um past couple well past couple of months.
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Speaker 1: We've definitely got them, you know, the rains that we needed.
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Speaker 1: The second crop beans are just about as good as
19:29
Speaker 1: the first crops. So everything's looking good. I mean, our
19:33
Speaker 1: our food plots were we're getting ready to put those
19:35
Speaker 1: in now. We we got last week. We intended on
19:38
Speaker 1: putting them in, but we got about nine inches of
19:40
Speaker 1: rain there in our location in about a twenty four
19:43
Speaker 1: hour period, so it kind of stops us on that.
19:47
Speaker 1: Do you guys do any morning set ups then with
19:49
Speaker 1: those use hunters or these all evening setups? About through
19:55
Speaker 1: all evening setups, That's what we plan on doing every year.
19:58
Speaker 1: But sometimes if we can and find you want to
20:00
Speaker 1: check the cameras, we find something we can get in
20:02
Speaker 1: behind you know, those bean fields and slip into a
20:05
Speaker 1: bed area, we will. This morning we did the same thing.
20:08
Speaker 1: Took a guy from Pennsylvania in um get him in
20:11
Speaker 1: real early in a bed area bix c RP field
20:14
Speaker 1: off fourteen bucks came by him and he shot one.
20:17
Speaker 1: It was scored a hundred forty five. So it's a
20:20
Speaker 1: pretty good move for us to make it happen for
20:22
Speaker 1: the guy. Well, how we'll set up change for you
20:24
Speaker 1: guys as we get into mid September. The end of September,
20:28
Speaker 1: you mentioned that it's going to get tough for hunting,
20:30
Speaker 1: So how will you guys adjust then? Well, I think
20:34
Speaker 1: our our muslis season is going to start on Monday.
20:37
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, the deer will definitely start
20:39
Speaker 1: coming back to the feeders. Alex. It's very unusual this
20:42
Speaker 1: week for the you know kind of what happened. But
20:45
Speaker 1: they'll get back on those feeders and uh foods, horses
20:48
Speaker 1: will start changing beings to start turning yellow. So then
20:51
Speaker 1: we'll shift to the milos because those deer the milos
20:53
Speaker 1: getting real red and and and when it turns like
20:57
Speaker 1: that right there, those big bucks a goose milo fields,
21:00
Speaker 1: we just kind of shift. We've been doing it so long,
21:01
Speaker 1: we kind of kind of know what we're doing going forward.
21:05
Speaker 1: Then in the next week or so, what do you
21:06
Speaker 1: think that buck activity will look like on the skill
21:09
Speaker 1: of one to ten in Kansas. One attend in Kansas,
21:14
Speaker 1: if you're in the right location and you've got a
21:16
Speaker 1: little bit of luck on your side, you could kill
21:18
Speaker 1: a giant. It could be an eight. Yeah, I think that. Uh,
21:22
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna you're gonna see some really big
21:24
Speaker 1: deer get killed out there, because you know it's you know,
21:26
Speaker 1: September with a Muslin or anytime you're in Kansas, you
21:28
Speaker 1: stend an opportunity to kill a giant. I mean years
21:31
Speaker 1: past time we've we've harveshed some over two inches. Because
21:35
Speaker 1: you know, like I tell people that try to buckle me, like,
21:38
Speaker 1: you know, what's it gonna be like, you know, afternoon
21:41
Speaker 1: hunts are gonna be good. They're gonna be uh if
21:44
Speaker 1: it's cool, if you get a little bit of a a
21:45
Speaker 1: cool snap, it could be you know, you could start
21:48
Speaker 1: seeing deer two hours for before dark. But if it
21:51
Speaker 1: warms up, um, you know, it could be a little tougher.
21:54
Speaker 1: It could be you know, right toward the end of
21:56
Speaker 1: the hunt. But as I look at the weather before,
21:59
Speaker 1: you know, forecast for the next couple of weeks, it's
22:02
Speaker 1: gonna be warm. This week, there's gonna get down in
22:04
Speaker 1: the you know, seventy two for the highs fifty eight
22:08
Speaker 1: fifty nine, which they're gonna be good. So you know,
22:12
Speaker 1: we'll we'll uh definitely hunter set up ton afternoon, but
22:15
Speaker 1: we'll kind of venture some of these bed and areas
22:17
Speaker 1: and set up and try to see what's coming back
22:20
Speaker 1: to bed. But you know, keep the deer out of
22:22
Speaker 1: the field a little bit longer in the mornings so
22:24
Speaker 1: you can you do have an opportunity to to harvest
22:27
Speaker 1: one in the morning. Art Mark will well done on
22:30
Speaker 1: getting those youth hunters some great deer and good luck
22:32
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Thanks for joining me, alright,
22:35
Speaker 1: thank you, sir alright in joining us on the line.
22:39
Speaker 1: Next from Maryland is Paul Laver from Sons of Fall TV. Now,
22:44
Speaker 1: Paul in Maryland, what would you say the bucket activity
22:46
Speaker 1: has been lately on a scale of one to ten,
22:50
Speaker 1: I'd say on a scale of one to ten, it's
22:52
Speaker 1: been on the high side and eight to a nine.
22:55
Speaker 1: And the Maryland season opened on September seven, so we're
22:59
Speaker 1: five days into this season, and there's some Facebook feeds
23:03
Speaker 1: that the Maryland hunters upload their their photos too, and
23:07
Speaker 1: it's it's been pretty amazing the number of giant bucks
23:10
Speaker 1: that have been killed the first five days of the season,
23:13
Speaker 1: mainly due to the cold, cold or temperatures. Saturday, Sunday
23:16
Speaker 1: Monday we had temperatures in the in the sixties during
23:19
Speaker 1: the day and high fifties at night, which is completely
23:23
Speaker 1: unseasonable for this area. But in the last couple of
23:27
Speaker 1: days yesterday and today, it's back up in the eighties again,
23:30
Speaker 1: so I expect buck movement to kind of slow down again.
23:34
Speaker 1: Regarding whether there is the hurricane that is currently threatening
23:38
Speaker 1: the coast. How do you think that's going to change,
23:40
Speaker 1: dear movement? Uh, you know, we're we're expecting a pretty
23:45
Speaker 1: large storm surge in the Maryland area, especially the Chesteake
23:48
Speaker 1: Bay and tributary regions. Fact today I just pulled my
23:52
Speaker 1: boat off the lift, and you know, expecting a big
23:55
Speaker 1: storm surge. So I think it's going to keep a
23:57
Speaker 1: lot of hunters out of the woods, which is going
23:59
Speaker 1: to keep the sidings down. And uh, you know, it's
24:03
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of wind, a lot of rain.
24:05
Speaker 1: So I expect movement to be pretty pretty slow this week.
24:09
Speaker 1: Do you notice any trends before or after a large
24:12
Speaker 1: storm like that as far as buck moment goes, Uh,
24:15
Speaker 1: you know, as always, you know when the wind where
24:17
Speaker 1: when the wind and rain not really so much of
24:19
Speaker 1: the wind, but when the rain stops, you know you're
24:21
Speaker 1: going to see a surplus of deer out soybean fields
24:24
Speaker 1: and we're actually some some fields of corn are already
24:28
Speaker 1: starting to be uh harvested. So I think you're going
24:31
Speaker 1: to see a lot of deer out in these corn
24:33
Speaker 1: fields that have been harvested in the in the coming
24:35
Speaker 1: week or two. Tell me a little bit more about
24:38
Speaker 1: the food sources in that area. Uh, does a large
24:41
Speaker 1: agriculture kind of dominate for deer movement or is there
24:44
Speaker 1: some large Yeah, and you know, list in my area
24:47
Speaker 1: that I focus in is the eastern shore of Maryland.
24:50
Speaker 1: There's a there's some big bucks being shot down in
24:52
Speaker 1: southern Maryland. That's where a lot of these bigger bucks
24:55
Speaker 1: that were reported in the first couple of days. But
24:58
Speaker 1: the Eastern Shorts, you know, it truly just soybeans and corn.
25:02
Speaker 1: That that is the bulk of the food plots that
25:05
Speaker 1: are out there, you know, farming hardwoods and corn and
25:09
Speaker 1: soybeans for those folks that have been successful thus far.
25:13
Speaker 1: Then do you have any idea what they're set ups.
25:15
Speaker 1: It looked like if it's morning or evenings, if they're
25:17
Speaker 1: focusing on food or getting it close to those Yeah,
25:21
Speaker 1: we have a we have a cast member Kyle that
25:23
Speaker 1: uh shot a really nice Maryland deer on the opening
25:26
Speaker 1: day September seven, and it was an evening hunt. Thunderstorm
25:32
Speaker 1: showers were in the area. He was lucky to get
25:34
Speaker 1: the deer coming in before the showers really let loose.
25:38
Speaker 1: So he's got that on film. Uh. You know, we're
25:41
Speaker 1: expecting to have that on the show for everybody in
25:43
Speaker 1: the spring to see. So you know, listen, I don't
25:46
Speaker 1: know everybody's set ups, but you know, most of most
25:49
Speaker 1: of what we do at suns of Fall a lot
25:52
Speaker 1: of climbers, a lot of hanging hunts, and a lot
25:55
Speaker 1: of lock on tree stands that are you know, if
25:57
Speaker 1: it's private property, it's lock on, if it's if it's
26:00
Speaker 1: state land, it's it's climbers. So going forward then next
26:06
Speaker 1: week or so, what do you think that bucket activity
26:08
Speaker 1: is going to be on a scale one to ten
26:10
Speaker 1: in Maryland? I would put it at a four or
26:14
Speaker 1: five this coming week given the doom and gloom of
26:17
Speaker 1: this hurricane that's off the coast. All right, Well, thanks
26:21
Speaker 1: for joining me, Paul. You guys can check out their
26:23
Speaker 1: new series The Huntsman on the Hunt Channel, Amazon Prime, rokup, YouTube,
26:27
Speaker 1: and some other streaming services as well. Good luck this
26:30
Speaker 1: season to you and your other cast members. Yeah, thank
26:33
Speaker 1: you for having us, appreciate it alright and joining us
26:37
Speaker 1: on the line. Last is Trent Siegel from Heartland bow Hunter,
26:40
Speaker 1: currently hunting in Wyoming. Now, Trent in Wyoming, what would
26:44
Speaker 1: you say the buck activities ben lately on scale one
26:47
Speaker 1: to ten, I'd say steven. We've seen puter about every
26:54
Speaker 1: set so far on this trip, just having gotten but uh,
27:01
Speaker 1: activity has been awesome to say the least. Well on
27:05
Speaker 1: that trip, it looks like you've been covered up in
27:08
Speaker 1: deer and you've been hunting some mornings as well as evenings.
27:10
Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about those setups. Yeah, so
27:16
Speaker 1: in the mornings we've been getting back in the timber.
27:20
Speaker 1: The acorns are falling there out here like crazy inks
27:24
Speaker 1: the wind. You can just hear him hit the crown
27:25
Speaker 1: like a training. So we've been back hunting the oak
27:29
Speaker 1: flats um catch them coming off the off off the
27:32
Speaker 1: fields going back to bed. And then it's super hot
27:35
Speaker 1: here in the afternoon. So the rain intron has some
27:40
Speaker 1: ponds and some stock tanks and the water and they've
27:43
Speaker 1: been hunting those in the afternoons and they've been awesome.
27:47
Speaker 1: Lots of activity on for those morning setups. How aggressive
27:51
Speaker 1: are you guys, like your stand in reference to the beds,
27:55
Speaker 1: how close are you to to where they're trying to
27:57
Speaker 1: get to I would say I mean at least cyrus
28:06
Speaker 1: six hundred yards away there, um, you know, deep in
28:09
Speaker 1: the bedding area. We've we've been trying to get a
28:11
Speaker 1: couple of hundred yards, um you know, probably three hundred
28:16
Speaker 1: yards from fields back in the oaks, just trying to
28:19
Speaker 1: catch them cutting off those fields in the morning because
28:23
Speaker 1: it's like complete often from back home. We had some
28:26
Speaker 1: trail cameras up and I churned today and it's been
28:31
Speaker 1: out for two days and I kid single in red
28:36
Speaker 1: picture on it. They are completely different than it at home.
28:40
Speaker 1: I mean they didn't they don't move here. It's it's unreal. Um.
28:44
Speaker 1: We we found to hear the other day that killed
28:49
Speaker 1: and um, you know, we we were smelling. We saw
28:51
Speaker 1: some buzzers went over there and it was all covered
28:54
Speaker 1: up in your ass and had the bumping out of
28:58
Speaker 1: it and said, I don't know if that had something
29:00
Speaker 1: to do with them. They need to do just they
29:03
Speaker 1: don't move at night. You've been out there for a
29:07
Speaker 1: few days. Now, what have you seen as far as
29:10
Speaker 1: the bachelor groups breaking up? Are they still together? A
29:14
Speaker 1: lot of those bucks flying solo at this point. No,
29:17
Speaker 1: they're definitely, um still bachelored out big time. All the
29:23
Speaker 1: bucks are pretty much running together, and then all the
29:27
Speaker 1: does there's dough groups and then pretty much every day
29:31
Speaker 1: has two fonds with it, it seems like. But yeah,
29:34
Speaker 1: big bachelor groups still, you know, I think tonight we
29:38
Speaker 1: had a group of seven bucks come in at one
29:41
Speaker 1: time later in the night there, which until you still
29:43
Speaker 1: seeing these deer on their summer patterns and are you
29:46
Speaker 1: sometimes having encounters with the same deer night after night? Yeah? Absolutely, absolutely,
29:52
Speaker 1: most most of all the bucks we've seen that have
29:55
Speaker 1: been out of velvet um here within the last week.
29:59
Speaker 1: But they're definitely they still on a summer pattern. They're
30:02
Speaker 1: not walking the same trail, per say, every day, but
30:05
Speaker 1: they're definitely hit in the same fields. I mean going
30:08
Speaker 1: back to the same area going forward. Then next week
30:12
Speaker 1: or so, what do you think that bucket activity will
30:14
Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in Wyoming?
30:17
Speaker 1: I can't imagine it's gonna be any worse. Um, looking
30:22
Speaker 1: at the forecast, I'd say it's still gonna with the
30:24
Speaker 1: bucks still bachelored up, I would assume and guests that
30:28
Speaker 1: they're going to say in those same patterns. Alright, Champ, Well,
30:31
Speaker 1: good luck in Wyoming, and uh look forward to seeing
30:34
Speaker 1: what you guys come up with this season. At heart,
30:36
Speaker 1: Lambo Hunter, thanks for joining me you bet. Thanks a
30:39
Speaker 1: lot man having a good one. And that concludes this
30:42
Speaker 1: week's episode of Wire to Haunt's Radio. Thanks to our
30:45
Speaker 1: guests Lee, Mark, Paul, and Trent, and thank you guys
30:49
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31:00
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31:04
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31:06
Speaker 1: out this week from places like Nebraska, New Jersey, and
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Speaker 1: South Dakota. Good luck to everyone out there who was
31:12
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