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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, March 3 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, March th This is Jaguars Happy Hour
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  Speaker 1: and now the father of journalistic sports writing and the
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  Speaker 1: mother of George Jihan Osier and Ashlyn's Sullivan. Welcome in
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. We are live from the NFL Scouting Combine,
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  Speaker 1: Indian India in Indianapolis on Radio Row. It is our
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  Speaker 1: fourth day of Jaguars coverage on Jaguars dot Com. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of news coming out on Tuesday. I know you
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  Speaker 1: are here till Saturday, and we were just saying when
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  Speaker 1: this thing dwindles down, it dwindles down quickly. It's I
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  Speaker 1: mean that room out there, we're the only ones left,
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  Speaker 1: is the only one left. FAM, your CBS, your Big
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  Speaker 1: Time well and we have to stay on Saturday, all right, guys,
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  Speaker 1: So let's start with Tuesday. We came here, there was
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  Speaker 1: a big Jaguars news that Peterson Trent Balky spoke to
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  Speaker 1: the media, and we started Tuesday morning with the news
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  Speaker 1: that the Jaguars have decided they will not higher an
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  Speaker 1: executive president. I don't like it. I think they needed
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  Speaker 1: to bring a guy above Trent Bulky and and let
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  Speaker 1: him have some input into the way things are run.
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  Speaker 1: Uh maybe not have the final decision making power, but
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  Speaker 1: also be a guy who can add his insight into that,
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  Speaker 1: because where are they now? You have Doug Peterson who's
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  Speaker 1: in there, but now you also have the general manager
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  Speaker 1: who's the same guy that was the general manager a
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  Speaker 1: year ago. And so I think that's part of the
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  Speaker 1: problem here, I really do. And I look, I've made
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  Speaker 1: I haven't shied away from it. I think they needed
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  Speaker 1: to make a change at general manager. I'm not as
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  Speaker 1: adamant about it as the fans are, and nor do
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  Speaker 1: I think shots a clown for not making that move.
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  Speaker 1: But they needed to make a move. Just why didn't
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  Speaker 1: they just start all over again? But as it is now,
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  Speaker 1: it's all on Trent and and Doug Peterson to get along.
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  Speaker 1: And I asked. We had Doug on our our set
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  Speaker 1: the other day, and I asked him, I said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's a the fans wanted him out. There were people
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  Speaker 1: that didn't want to come work here with him. What
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  Speaker 1: is your relationship with him? And have you paid attention
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  Speaker 1: to that? And he said, look, I'm not looking into
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  Speaker 1: the rear view mirror. I'm looking forward. So I understand
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  Speaker 1: it from his standpoint. I just would have made a change. Pete,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure you've been on our I guess the
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  Speaker 1: channels is the word you use, right, that's this, that's
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  Speaker 1: the word the kids use. Um. But I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: we've talked to you much since the Peterson higher You
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  Speaker 1: obviously no Doug from before. Uh talk about him, talk
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  Speaker 1: about what he's gonna bring. What are your impressions? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think this was a job. And I'm a big
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  Speaker 1: Byron left which guy. I love Byron, I always have.
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  Speaker 1: I've always had a great relationship with him. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think this would have been a good job for Byron.
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  Speaker 1: I think Byron is gonna be a great coach down
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  Speaker 1: the road, but this wouldn't have been it. They treated
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  Speaker 1: him poorly in Jackson, let's be honest about it. He's
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  Speaker 1: still had some bad blood about that. And I think
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  Speaker 1: this was a team that needed a guy with skins
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  Speaker 1: on the wall, and by that I mean a guy
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  Speaker 1: who has the cash a that the Super Bowl rank
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  Speaker 1: you can come in there and clean up the mess.
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  Speaker 1: And it was a mess that's being left behind, and
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  Speaker 1: so I think that's the most important thing. And he's
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  Speaker 1: good offense and mine. Oh, you have to you have
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  Speaker 1: to do is Look, you want a super Bowl? Nick
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  Speaker 1: Folest shocked. Oh my god, he want a super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: with Nick Foles? Just put him coaching Hall of Fame
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  Speaker 1: just for doing that. How will his uh? You know again,
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  Speaker 1: you study more other team schemes and we get a
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  Speaker 1: chance to detail wise, how do you expect the offense
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  Speaker 1: with Peterson to Look? How is this gonna look? Explain
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  Speaker 1: that to fans in Yan's terms. Well, look, it's not
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  Speaker 1: gonna be the wide zone that everybody you don't want to,
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  Speaker 1: which I think is the perfect offense for a lot
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  Speaker 1: of quarterbacks. You know, where you run the wide zone
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  Speaker 1: like the forty Niners do. It makes it so much
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  Speaker 1: easier on them. The old Kyle Shanahan offense. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we've seen them rush for three yards once in a
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  Speaker 1: playoff game running that offense. It just makes it easier
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  Speaker 1: on the quarterback. So this is gonna be more of
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  Speaker 1: a pro style like we take Kansas City, It'll be
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  Speaker 1: a lot like their offense, you know, the Andy Reid
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  Speaker 1: pro style offense, which means it's gonna cater to the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: And if you looked at what Doug did when he
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  Speaker 1: was in Philly, he cater to the quarterback cars and
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  Speaker 1: once was an m d P candidate. When he was there,
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  Speaker 1: it was probably gonna win it. He he and I
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  Speaker 1: got hurt there, correct, And so it's perfect for Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 1: It's a quarterback eccentric offense. Now, there's always been criticism
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  Speaker 1: of this offense that you don't run the ball enough,
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  Speaker 1: and Andy Reid gets that all the time he's got
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  Speaker 1: his entire career. But I think Doug will be more
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  Speaker 1: much more balanced. I think, yeah, most of the offenses
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  Speaker 1: that have had most of the times this offense has
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  Speaker 1: had a functional quarterback, it's performed at a pretty high level.
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  Speaker 1: And even with an average play there. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think in this building if the running back
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  Speaker 1: fumbles that they're going to yank him out for the
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  Speaker 1: entire game either. So it's just key, oh man, I'm
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  Speaker 1: getting it all out. And then when I come back
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  Speaker 1: and do the thing with Bosselli in the fall, then
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  Speaker 1: we'll get it out. Even I will say, and this
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  Speaker 1: it sounds cliche, but we've met Doug Peterson now a
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  Speaker 1: couple of times, like, all right, great guy, But then
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  Speaker 1: we followed him around his meted tour where you were
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  Speaker 1: at CBS and he was stopped sixty times by the people,
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  Speaker 1: and everyone's saying, now, he's not a good guy. He's
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  Speaker 1: a really good guy. And again, that can only take
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  Speaker 1: you so far. But I'm all for that treat not
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  Speaker 1: how you treat your players, but how you treat everybody
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  Speaker 1: else in the building. If you walk through the building
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  Speaker 1: in the morning and you see a person over there,
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  Speaker 1: there's maybe the cafeteria worker, say hey, how are you
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  Speaker 1: doing having a good day to day? Little thing like that,
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  Speaker 1: or walk by him or whatever. And we've had, we've
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  Speaker 1: seen guys who have done that, and not just in Jacksonville,
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  Speaker 1: but everywhere. It just doesn't work because I think the
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  Speaker 1: bad field comes into throughout the entire building. Now, I'll
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  Speaker 1: be honest. Tom Coughlin brought a lot of that into
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  Speaker 1: that building when he was first there, and it took
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  Speaker 1: a while for him to evolve a little bit. He
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  Speaker 1: didn't evolve all the way, but he evolved. He realized
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  Speaker 1: he can't be that way. And this is the same
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  Speaker 1: with with you know, Doug smart enough to realize treat
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  Speaker 1: everybody with respect, not just your players. How important is it?
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  Speaker 1: And it's pretty self evident, But my thought is Doug
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  Speaker 1: Peterson gets in front of a room a player is
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  Speaker 1: in March fifteenth, whenever he talks to him first April two.
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  Speaker 1: The instant credibility combined with the ability to reach Uh,
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  Speaker 1: you're not gonna have players roll in their eyes at
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  Speaker 1: this guy, not at all. And they were, they were,
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  Speaker 1: and they were rolling around the last guy. I believe.
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  Speaker 1: We've heard the stories, many of them. And yeah, he's
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  Speaker 1: got he's got the cash a and if you have
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  Speaker 1: the cash at players are gonna pay attention. It's not
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  Speaker 1: like everybody goes, who's a great leader in the NFL?
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  Speaker 1: Why is he a great leader? If you're good, you're
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  Speaker 1: a leader. If you're bad, you're not. Everybody. Oh, he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a good leader. Is he any good? I
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  Speaker 1: mean if Tom Brady was a six round pick, if
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't any good, he wouldn't let anybody. He became
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  Speaker 1: great and he let you know, you're around painting all
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  Speaker 1: those years. They follow greatness. And so he's got a
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl ring, they're gonna follow him from the start.
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  Speaker 1: If he gets another one, they'll follow him everywhere in
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of months until they figure out if
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  Speaker 1: he's good or not. It's had the NFL. Good good earns,
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  Speaker 1: you respect period. Easy enough? All right, this room is
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  Speaker 1: buzzing the entire week about the number one overall pick.
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  Speaker 1: We've talked to a bunch of draft anialists and everyone.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, at first it was Evan Neil. Now we're
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  Speaker 1: hearing some different names. What are you thinking? I think
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  Speaker 1: you should be Evan Neil. Did you see him today?
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  Speaker 1: He's standard thirty pounds and he looks like he weighs
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  Speaker 1: a hundred and seventy. That tells you what kind of
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  Speaker 1: the shape he's in a and what kind of body
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  Speaker 1: has he has a capability to get bigger. He reminds
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  Speaker 1: me of Tristan wars And you saw what Tristan worse
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  Speaker 1: did you know as a rookie end last year? He's
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  Speaker 1: a dominant player, he's a All Pro And everybody goes, well,
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  Speaker 1: what do you do with Walker Little? How about this scenario?
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  Speaker 1: You could do this? You play Walker Little at left tackle,
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  Speaker 1: you play Taylor at right tackle, and you play Neil
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  Speaker 1: at guard. And people say, well, how can you do that? Well?
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  Speaker 1: They played Jonathan Ogden at Gardens first year in in
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  Speaker 1: in Baltimore and then okay, well, the next spitute fourward scenarios.
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  Speaker 1: What if Taylor plays great, maybe almost at a pro
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  Speaker 1: bowl level, then he got a pleasant album on your hands.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what I would do. I would draft the
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  Speaker 1: offensive line. Would you be ballistic or just in disagreement
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  Speaker 1: if they went with Aidan Hudginson. Oh, I wouldn't know.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't. It wouldn't be that much. No, absolutely not.
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  Speaker 1: You can never go wrong getting another pass rusher. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I really believe that. I just think my concern with
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  Speaker 1: Hutchinson is he's so good right now with his hands,
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  Speaker 1: he's so good with all the moves that he's got
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  Speaker 1: a big edge up on the tackles in the college game.
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  Speaker 1: When you get the NFL game, those guys all have
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  Speaker 1: long arms. They could keep you at bay. So you gotta,
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  Speaker 1: you know, work on other things. And I wonder if
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  Speaker 1: his ceiling might be the ten sac a year guy
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  Speaker 1: and not the boss, because I don't think he's a Bosa.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he's Nick Bosa. I don't think he's
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  Speaker 1: Joey Bosa, you know, because he kind of came out
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  Speaker 1: of nowhere and these kids have been those prodigies for
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  Speaker 1: a long time. So is he just what is he?
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  Speaker 1: That's my concern if he could continue to get better
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  Speaker 1: and better than as a great pick, but there's still
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  Speaker 1: some questions about where his ceiling is for me anyways,
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  Speaker 1: And that's kind of the dilemma of this draft is
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  Speaker 1: everybody you bring up at one there's a relatively big yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but involved even with Evan Neil, you know, not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: an absolute plague and play left tackle, well, he would be,
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  Speaker 1: I think he would be. But if you drafted Walker Little,
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  Speaker 1: we drafted him last year, what do you do with him?
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  Speaker 1: And they I mean what you saw from Walker Little
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  Speaker 1: and last week of this season that was if he
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  Speaker 1: can play like that all the time, that's a legitimate
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  Speaker 1: starting left back on this league. So I just think
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  Speaker 1: it's a pleasant problem to have. You can never haven't
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  Speaker 1: we seen over the course of the last two Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowls the team that doesn't have the offensive line doesn't win.
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  Speaker 1: The Bengals were a disaster because their line was a
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  Speaker 1: disaster the and they almost won the game. Anyways, the
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  Speaker 1: year before, the Chiefs couldn't block the box and they
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  Speaker 1: were a disaster. So you gotta be able to block
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  Speaker 1: in this league, and offensive line plays so bad if
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  Speaker 1: you have Trevor Lawrence to get better upfront. So in
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  Speaker 1: this situation, you're saying, let Cam Robinson walk, don't bring
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  Speaker 1: him back. I'm walking him, and I'm walking him. I'll
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  Speaker 1: let him walk. Play little Neil and Taylor and if
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  Speaker 1: Taylor doesn't want to, if Taylor doesn't work out, you
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  Speaker 1: move Neil out. You played two young kids to tackle.
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  Speaker 1: And the fascinating thing, Pete, I've been saying this for
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  Speaker 1: the last month. What you said makes sense. And yet
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  Speaker 1: keeping Cam putting little on the left side and or
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  Speaker 1: on the right side and draft in Hutchinson is not
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  Speaker 1: a terrible argument. So it's a very to me. Figuring
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  Speaker 1: out the Jaguars offensive line in the draft right now
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  Speaker 1: is as tricky a puzzle as maybe I've ever seen
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  Speaker 1: for a team going into How are you keeping him
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  Speaker 1: on a tag? Uh? It's a pricey tag, is it though?
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  Speaker 1: And is he a happy guy if you tag him again?
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  Speaker 1: Probably not? Well, I can figure out a whey you
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  Speaker 1: get half for sixty? Well you could, but I mean,
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  Speaker 1: is he one of those guys that would be okay
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  Speaker 1: with that? He seemed Uh. I didn't get the impression
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  Speaker 1: of misery from him. Last year at fourteen. But but
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're in the back of his
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  Speaker 1: mind six year now, right back of his mind, he's thinking, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'll play on playing fourteen and then I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 1: get my big money contract next year. You wouldn't give
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  Speaker 1: him the big money contract, would you? Because of this.
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  Speaker 1: I'd have to think about it, because right now the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars don't have enough really good players. If you keep
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  Speaker 1: Cam and you draft, say Hutchinson, you've added a good player.
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  Speaker 1: If you let Cam go, you've let it one more
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  Speaker 1: good player out of your building on a team that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have that many. So that would be the philosophy
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  Speaker 1: behind it. I could also get your point, but also
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  Speaker 1: get this, he could also draft Cam. I mean you
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  Speaker 1: could be hard to draft. I mean signed Cam, signed
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  Speaker 1: Cam and f Neil and then you have four big,
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  Speaker 1: giant bodies to move around on the confensive with Shatley
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  Speaker 1: is the center the idea there's When Doug Peterson and
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  Speaker 1: Trent Backy talked on Tuesday, they both talked pretty extensively
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  Speaker 1: about we need to keep our own guys. That just
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  Speaker 1: triggered me to think maybe that's the way they're thinking
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  Speaker 1: is we need to keep guys in the building and
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  Speaker 1: add to what we have rather than switching positions out
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  Speaker 1: that can we just meet. That could very well be
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  Speaker 1: me misreading what they said. If there was, if there
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  Speaker 1: was a real dominant plug and play pass rusher, then
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  Speaker 1: I would say yes for sure. But I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if there is. In fact, there's some guys and I'm
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  Speaker 1: I think the other guy that rushes the pastor of
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  Speaker 1: michigano Jabo might end up being. Okay, let's go this way.
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  Speaker 1: At Michigan, Hutchinson was better, but Ojabo just came to
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  Speaker 1: the football a couple of years ago, and there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people who think he'll be he'll better. So
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  Speaker 1: if you're telling yourself that you're drafting a guy that
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  Speaker 1: somebody who was the second on the team to him
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  Speaker 1: in college is going to be better, then which is
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  Speaker 1: a possibility, than are you drafting the right guy? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Hudgenson I think is going to be a really good
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  Speaker 1: football player. I just don't know if he's going to be.
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  Speaker 1: If he's somebody said Ryan Carrogan, it was a good player.
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  Speaker 1: Who's who you're ecstatic with it? Fifteen? Are you ecstatic
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  Speaker 1: with him? At one correct, whereas if you draft Neil
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  Speaker 1: at one, he's the plug and play for the rest
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  Speaker 1: of his career. I don't think he's gonna have any
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  Speaker 1: problems at all play you. Some people have the North
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  Speaker 1: Carolina State kid the other tackle, and I think Neil
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  Speaker 1: is better. I think he's the He's the guy. Before
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  Speaker 1: we let you out of here, you talked to far
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  Speaker 1: more people around the league. One of the most tight
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  Speaker 1: end writers around. We're not a writer anymore. You have
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  Speaker 1: written like eight years, but it's a um what's the
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  Speaker 1: buzz among good football people. You talked to about Trevor
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  Speaker 1: Lawrence after the rookie year that you can't judge him
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  Speaker 1: on what had happened last year. You just can't. It's
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  Speaker 1: not fair to the kid to judge him on that.
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  Speaker 1: And and I'm I'm with them in no speed. The
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  Speaker 1: offensive line was a problem. It's a bad staff. How
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  Speaker 1: the heck were you going to do that? So I'm
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  Speaker 1: not judging him based on last year. You want to
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  Speaker 1: judge him, judge him based on how he went through
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  Speaker 1: all that misery and played so well against the Colts
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the year. And I think you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's the most important thing. Does it matter to you
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  Speaker 1: because he made a big deal out of it because
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  Speaker 1: it was a positive and I liked what I saw,
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  Speaker 1: But the fact that he never seemed to wilt mentally,
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  Speaker 1: And I get the press conferences, you can't always tell
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  Speaker 1: but from that, but there is something you can tell
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  Speaker 1: from that, from how a kid is standing up, how
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  Speaker 1: he's not changing as impressive on that front as I've
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  Speaker 1: ever seen. Maybe does that matter to you? Yes, pros
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  Speaker 1: pro then't wilt. It could have wilted, could complained, could
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  Speaker 1: have because it's done a lot of stuff. You never
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  Speaker 1: did any of it, So yes, absolutely. Look, I thought
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  Speaker 1: he would be a star when he came into the league.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still thinking he's gonna be a star. Now tell
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  Speaker 1: me about your interaction with him at the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: I love this story you already told me. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we had him on zoom and I had no It's
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  Speaker 1: good I we had had him on zoom and I
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  Speaker 1: had never really unbeknownest too many but I hadn't talked
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  Speaker 1: to him because when I came to camp, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: talk to him. And I had him on zoom, and
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  Speaker 1: he he could I could, I couldn't hear him and
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  Speaker 1: he couldn't hear me, and so we had to wait.
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  Speaker 1: We're getting a little day that he's playing with his hair.
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  Speaker 1: This in the beginning of the thing. He's playing with
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  Speaker 1: his hair. Yeah, yeah, And so I go, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: got the same problem there, Trevor. He busted out laughing.
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  Speaker 1: So as we go through the we go through the
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  Speaker 1: interview and I said, look, Trevor, I really hope you
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  Speaker 1: play so well, really well, to the point where but
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  Speaker 1: you know you're a star, but don't play that well
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  Speaker 1: because I'm the mayor of Jacksonville and you're never going
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  Speaker 1: to be And what a great kid he is, awesome
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  Speaker 1: prose pro The pros pro part is significant, and uh,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: I kind of agree with you know, I kind of
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: at least one person because he should. Yea. And with that,
• 15:59
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• 16:18
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• 16:20
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• 16:23
  Speaker 1: from ESPN will be joining as shortly. For now. It's
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: John Osier and I and your dog on your phone
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: just popped up. Yes, I have been face timing and
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: security cameraing my dog all week. We're going home tomorrow,
• 16:36
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• 16:38
  Speaker 1: George excited. No, he's very excited. I asked, Okay, So
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: here's the deal. And it's kind of crazy to think
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: about this. Cam Robinson could completely define how the draft stands,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: not just for the Jaguars, for all other teams. I
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: was talking to NFL networks analysts about this day and
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, like that's not underrated. Whatever happens with
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Cam Robinson determines what the Jaguars will pick determined second, third, fourth,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: fifth of all of these NFL teams. Yeah, no pressure,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Camp Robinson, and in turn, it determines how the Jaguars
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: will shape their own offensive line. It could also determine
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: whether or not they have somebody to package with Josh
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Allen or not, because if they pick Evan Neil, then
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they can't pick the potentially elite
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: pass rushing on the other side of dominance. Again, That's
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: why this is not you know, trendball, keep pulling me
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: aside and whispering what's gonna happen? Just sort of reading
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: t le's listening. You just wonder if the move isn't
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: to retain Cam who they know can play in the NFL,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: and no, can do it keep a good player or
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: potentially a very good player and then add a pass
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: rusher to it, therefore having more good pieces in that
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: front nine, if you will. Uh, that feels to me
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: like a team that needs talent a route they might go.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: We'll see and uh, Matt Miller coming in here now,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Matt Miller will definitely know the answer to this. Hello, Matt,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: how are you? I know it right? I hope you
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: know the answer. Good to see, It's good to see you.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. Congrats on your contract extension.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: What a week for you. Free agency has already started
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: for me, right, so it's good. It's a good time.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: So Matt Miller on ESPN, a big time draft analysts,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: we're just talking about the number one overall pick and
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: do you go defensive end? Do you go offensive line?
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: And everyone we talked to kind of has different opinions,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: which is a good thing to happen. Yeah, it's a
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: good thing. I think it also speaks to the way
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: that this draft class is stacked right where there's not
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: that consensus number one player like last year when you
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: guys got it's the best quarterback prospect in a long time. Sorry,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I default towards the idea of protecting Trevor Lawrence. Obviously,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Cam Robinson's a free agent. I do like Walker Little,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: who they drafted in the second round out of Stanford
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: last year. But I think when you have an opportunity
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: to get an elite left tackle, you have to do
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: that to protect your quarterback. You know, I was on
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: with the team earlier today. I mentioned to them that's
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: really what that's been the model, you know, Buffalo bottom
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: offensive line for Josh Allen. Kansas City went all in
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: last year for Patrick Mahomes to have an offensive line,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: and we saw I think in the Super Bowl how
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: important that is with Andrew Whitworth's great play and the
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Bengals struggles up front. So I would trend more in
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: that direction. Pass rusher is very important. I think a
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: left tackle for a young quarterback is paramount. Though is
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Neil elite? Is he that much better than the others
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: in sort of that group that's at the top in
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: your opinion, But I think a lot of that's gonna
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: get figured out, you know, in the next couple of days.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Not the hedge on that. No, I don't think he's
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: head and shoulders above everyone else, you know, not to
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: keep throwing back to last year, but last year Trevor
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: was head and shoulders above anyone else at the position.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Right So I think Evan Neil ikey Ikuanu they're very
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: much still I think in competition for who's going to
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: be the first pick, and in those opinions are gonna vary.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I think you talked to some scheme teams. Their scheme
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: is gonna prefer Evan Neil. I think Equana's arm length's
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting measurement when it comes in tomorrow.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Some a lot of people will be watching. But from
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: from myself, from my own rankings, I have those two
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: players right there together, and I'm still, you know, waiting
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: for those intangible to try to figure out what separates them.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Is this as wide open as you remember or is
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: it just a case where it's always going to be
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: wide open if there's not sort of that quarterback fever
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: at the top. It's the most wide open draft that
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I think I've ever covered. I've been doing this professionally
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: for a long time, twelve twelve years, I think so, um,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: you know, I think even like Myles Garrett seventeen, you know,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: there were quarterbacks in that draft, but we knew it
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: was going to be him still, So I think this
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: is the probably the most wide open in that case
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: of a team that at the top that has a
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: couple of needs. Right, You've got a new structure in
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: place with a new head coach that's gonna have a
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: lot of say and what happens. So I think that
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: all adds to it, and it does speak to the
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I think lack of elite talent at the top of
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: the draft as well to where there's not that sure
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: fire player we always talk about with the Jaguar, especially
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: this past season, everyone talks about the need for speed
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: and you gotta get it quick with the Jaguars. Then,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: sitting at thirty three, it seems like, all right, the
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: elite wide receivers might be gone by then. Do you
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: use some capital to trade up maybe try to get
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: one of those guys. Yeah, I wouldn't be against it
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: at all, and I I think the good news is
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: you're getting Travisy team back next year. Be instuting to
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: see how Doug Peterson wants to use him, you know,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: after after last year, there's being some conversation about him
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: doing different things. But I do think that using some
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: capital to go get an elite receiver. And and there
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: are five or six first round receivers in this class,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: but they might all be top twenty picks, you know,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: a couple of them. Jamison Williams tears his a c
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: L in the National Championship game, but he's weeks ahead
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: in his recovery. You know, he's not gonna miss much time.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: His teammate John Metchi tears is a seal in the
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: SEC Championship game. He's saying that he's close to too
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: ready already. So I do think that if if someone
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: starts to slip, that it could be a good opportunity
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: to move up five picks, six picks and make sure
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: you're getting You know that that as much as Trevor
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: needs left tackle, he needs the number one receiver as well, right,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: so making sure that he leaves this draft knowing, Okay,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: my backside is protected and I have a best friend
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: at wide receiver to throw too. The consensus, uh seems
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: to be a okay to good draft at the top,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: but that it stays pretty good for a long time.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: In this draft, is that the way you see it
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: as well? Absolutely? I don't think I've ever seen this
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: type of like we call it flat right, So the
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: difference between the number four overall player and the number
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: twenty overall player, it's not that big, right. I think
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: that a lot of people are down on the draft
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: because there's not the quarterbacks like we saw five in
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: the top fifteen last year. But I think if you
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: need to tackle a receiver and edge rusher, a corner line,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: like it's so deep at those positions where you are
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: in round two and three still looking at players like, gosh,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: these guys are starters. You know. I did a I
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: did a mock draft exercise and even publish it just
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: didn't a mock draft to see kind of how things
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: fell out. And I was in round three and was like,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: there's no way this. Players just told me on the
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: board like what where did I mess up? But like, no,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: the draft is just that deep that guys who could
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: be ranked in the fifties could be there in round
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: three just because teams are are drafting for need or
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: guys are are slipping through the cracks a little bit.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: That's always interesting to me. How many mock drafts do
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: you do? Oh? A lot, a lot, if you know. Now,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: thankfully I love my new employers. We don't have to
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: do as many, right, but there's an insatiable need for
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: or thirst for. You know, we could put one out
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: every day and fans would love it. And there's so
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: many different scenarios that you can run through that I
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: think that that makes it interesting. You know, if if
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville takes Aiden Hutchinson it changes everything, Or if they
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: take Evan Neil, what does that? What does that do?
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: So I think that's what makes it fun. You know,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I love that part of this job. That was I
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: fell in love with it as a young child doing
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: mock drafts in my parents house, you know, so I
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: still still love doing that, and I think that that
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: is what makes it fun, is the hope of this
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: one pick could change our franchise. But then also, okay,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: how do we put this puzzle together that is a
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: fifty three man roster? How concerned were the parents when
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: very because my parents got concerned when I was doing
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: stats all the time as a kid, So that's how
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: they knew I was. We're going off topic here, it's
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: a true story. I almost h got kicked out of
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: high school. I was a good kid, right, I almost
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: got kicked at high school because I was skipping school
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: to play Madden so much. My parents didn't know. They
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: were like, you missed twenty days this semester. What do
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: you like, does he have the flu or what's happening.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: There's no I was just addicted to playing Madden and
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: making mock drafts. So it worked out. Mom and dad like,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I'm it worked out, But there was there was a time.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I think they probably wondered what I was doing man
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: on a football sort of bring it back, and it's
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: been fascinating. As I've tried in the last couple of
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: weeks to sort of get up to speed with the draft,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: it strikes you that there maybe a better chance this year.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think it will happen, but there's more discussion
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: of say Kyle Hamilton's maybe at number one, A dabt
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: it will happen. They'd be an unusual position, but not
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: a complete shock considering the draft wide open. You also
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: are hearing more talk about linebacker again becoming an elite position.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Are we seeing any sort of a change in a
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: trendle on those lines of how teams are viewing certain
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: positions in terms of draft value. I think so. I
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: think we can look at last year Kyle Pitts being
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: a tight end being drafted in the top five. That
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: almost never happens. T J. Hockenson, you know, several years
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: before that was a great player as well. But I
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: think what Kyle Pitts Kyle Hamilton's a very good comparison
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: to that of You're not truly just a position here,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: not just the safety. You're not just a linebacker. You
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: are a defensive weapon or a defensive playmaker. And you know,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: we can deploy you in all these different ways to
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: match up against tight ends or big receivers or to
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: spy mobile quarterbacks. So I think that's what makes Kyle
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Hamilton's arguably the best player in this class. He's a
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: high i Q, highly productive multi year starter who is
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: also somewhat of an anomaly from his athletic gift standpoint
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: at six ft four to twenty UM. So I do
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: think that there is a solid argument for I was
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: asked just a little big ago, if you could pick
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: one player in this class be a Hall of Famer,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: who would it be? And I say, Kyle Hamilton's right,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: because he is just that unique of a skill set that, yes,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: you could argue positional value is not great. But in
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: a draft that lacks that elite player at the high
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: positions of value, maybe you just go with the best
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: football player sometimes. Yeah, And obviously I need for the
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: jag Wars as well to break a case for it.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: We asked this this week because I feel like in
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville every offseason we have this hope and this optimism
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and you almost get in this whole of just hoping
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: and wishing for positivity people. Yet for a national outlook ESPN, obviously,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: where are the Jaguars right now? Where do you see them? Um?
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: An unknown? You know. But the Bengals two years ago
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: where we made fun of the Bengals two years ago
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: because they only have like seven scouts, you know, and
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: it was like what are they? What they team doing right?
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: And even you know, when they took Jamar Chase, people
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: scoffed at that of what what are you doing taking
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: a receiver? Well, they were in the Super Bowl after
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: having the number one picked two years before. So I
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: think for Jags fans there is a model that you
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: can be excited about of you can turn this around
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: very quickly, you know, if you get things right. And
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I think that's where the Bengals drafted so well, not
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: just in round one, been in round two, getting Jesse Bates,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: in round three, getting Logan Wilson. It's not just hitting
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: in round one, it's hitting in round two and three
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: and getting starters out of that group. So I think
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: that's where you know, Trent and Doug Peterson have to
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: be smart about. It's not just about pick one, because
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I just about pick thirty three. We gotta make sure
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: that we get sixty five right and you gotta make
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: sure you get you know, sub subsequent rounds. You have
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: to be pulling starters. You talked to draft people all
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: over the league and inside the league inside buildings. Um,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I'm curious if you think had there been a number
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: a true lead receiver, had there been a Jamaar Chase
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: level wide receiver in this draft, which I guess the
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: consensus is there's not, But considering the way the league's
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: going and his success could we see in the next
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: ten years a wide receiver again go one Keyshan did
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: ninety six last time. Possibly. I think it would take
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: someone who is, you know, a Julio Jones type, Calvin
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Johnson type. You're gonna need to be, you know, six
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: four running a four three, But it is possible. I
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: think one thing that that would hurt that argument would
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: be that we're seeing so many receivers come out around
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: two that are successful. A J. Brown and DK Metcalf,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: you know, out of round two have been great players.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Even in Cincinnati, you know, Tyler Boyden T. Higgins are
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: very good players. So I think that is one area
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: where at the receiver position, much like a corner right now,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: are you better off drafting one earlier or you better
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: off drafting a couple late who are standout athletes, like
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: a Tyreek Hill that you can maybe mold and develop
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Our teams at all shying away from
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: or not shying makes you need defensive players, but devaluing
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: it a little bit because of a thought of, hey,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: if you don't score in this league, you don't win.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I definitely think so, and I do think that's why
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: this year might be an outlier in that case because
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: of the way the draft talent is tacked. But I
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: do think that there's much more of an emphasis on
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: getting playmakers, building offensive lines, and and going more of
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: those positions. Obviously, corner and pass rusher are always going
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: to be early picks, but I think for you know,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: d tackles, linebackers, I do think that position starting to
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: slide a little bit. Yes, points are fun and the Jaguars, Yes, absolutely,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Matt Miller, thank you for your time. Thank you guys
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: so much, fantastic. Thank you. Still to come on Jaguars
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Happy or John Ore and I break down the draft
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: coming up shortly, stay with us. Welcome back to Jaguars
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Happy Are We are alive from the scouting Combine, live
• 29:00
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• 29:04
  Speaker 1: of Jaguars dot com coverage. Much more to come the
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: rest of the week. We will be heading out tomorrow morning.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: You leave in this afternoon. I'm leaving as soon as
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: we get at Yes, it's been a long week. It's
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: definitely it's Wendel's quickly after Wednesday, that's for sure, And
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: it's crazy to think that free agency is in two weeks.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: We spoke to Trent Bulky on Tuesday, we kind of
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: asked his mindset of free agency. He said, we have
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: the money, we're going to spend it. We're gonna be aggressive. Yeah.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: And I think it's important to note that every time
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: he said aggressive and Doug Peterson sat in that chair
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: right there, Slynn did and said the same thing aggressive,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: But then seconds later they both said, you have to
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: be aggressive within a plan, and you have to make
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: sure you're gonna have to the right player. So, UM,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I do think you're going to see the Jaguars very
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: much in on, much more high, high profile home run
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: guys than you saw last year. I don't think you're
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: gonna see fans as upset at what they perceived as
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: in activity on the first coup for days. UM. I
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: hope that they don't go overboard with it. I hope
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: that they don't spend for the sake of spending. I
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: don't think they will. UM. I think Trent's point that
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: he was making with you have to make sure that
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: the guys you pay are worthwhile, not only for on
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: the field, but for in the locker room, for what
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: you were trying to build here. UM. This is not
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: a case where you're trying to add one piece to
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: get to a Super Bowl. Um, you know news flash,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: and I think the Jaguars might have a year before
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: there at that point, So you're still very much in
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: a build. With that being kept in mind, you want
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: to make sure that you have team and locker room
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: and everybody buying into what's going on as much as
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: you can. So you've got to make sure that the
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: guys you were paying are good fits and at least
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: feel like two or three year foundation pieces rather than just, hey,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: we're adding a piece to the puzzle here. Yeah, it
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: was interesting when we Trent Bulky. Right after he said yes,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: we want to be aggressive. He also said players in
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: the locker room know when a free agent is worth paying,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: And that was really interesting because you always hear fans
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: and us a lot of time say I'll just pay him.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: You have the money, We'll go hit the home run
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: and pay him. He said, yeah, Well, players in the
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: locker room turn on the film and they know if
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: he's worth all that money, and not to mention, they're
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: going to compare. He got that contract, he's playing this level.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I'm here playing this level, and you have to balance it.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: You have to be aggressive, and if you're going to
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: be in free agency, being aggressive means by definition, over paying. Yeah,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: you're always going to be signing a check where you
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: think it's more I wanted to pay for that guy,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: because that's the reality, not just in Jacksonville, but everywhere
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: you're gonna pay. You're going to overpay for a fifth
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: year guy that you consider close to elite because there's
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: only so many of those available in free agency, So
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: the supply and demand equation demands that he gets overpaid.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: But you have to balance that with the idea of
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: what Trent Balky also talked about this week. You cannot
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: build a competitive roster continuously paying eleven million dollars for
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: a three million dollar player, and he used that as
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: exact numbers, but his point was if you do that
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: three or four times, you are automatically taking away assets
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: that you should be using for other areas of your
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: team and over paying for an area that you're not
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: getting production from. That takes two pieces away, and over time,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: you're going to be a dysfunctional franchise. Was very bad
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: roster fans out there saying, well, the Jaguars have been
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: that true, but you still can't overdo that or you
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: will never get to where you want to go. Yeah,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: and just because you have all this cap space and
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: get it doesn't mean okay, well let's just just spend
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: it all over the place and then we'll be in
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: a bad place in three years. That's on how it works.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: That said, it does sound as if what they were
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: talking about this week from piecing different places together, Trent
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Baulky and Peterson, both on the podium, both talking to
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: local media, both talking to us, it certainly sounds like
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: at wide receiver especially, they really is that is a
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: position where we have to get better. We have to
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: get experienced better, and we have to get rookie build
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: guy better. Would not surprise me at all. Huge free
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: agent signing plus number thirty three overall in the draft
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: to try to get that spot to a point where
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: you can add it to some serviceable players on the roster,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: some productive players on the roster. Not have the guys
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: on the roster have to be stars, have them be
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: part of a good wide receiver package. That seems to
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: be the goal of this regime right now. Yeah. We
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: asked Trump Balky the need for speed, Where do you
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: get need for speeds my thing this week. I've said
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: that like twelve times need for speed, and we asked, okay,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: do you get in free agenty do you get in
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: the drafting looks at as a matter of factling goes both.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: So tonight the wide receivers are working out the first
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: for the on field. So tonight's a big night for Trump,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Balky and the scouting staff because yeah, thirty three just
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: it makes all the sense in the world. It is,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: and I really think we missed out on the potential
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: for a fascinating what is it now March three, couple
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: of months leading to the draft, had there been elite
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: wide receiver guy draft. I just asked Matt Miller and
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: he sort of, you know, didn't really go there that
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: it could have happened this year, had had Jamar Chase
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: or that level of kids be available in this draft,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: with the Jaguars sitting there with that need um, I
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: don't know that they would have done it, but it
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: would have been fascinating to find out how close they
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: came to it, because this feels like a year where
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: that could have happened. I can agree with with Matt
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Miller for the most part. Your positional value. Most years,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: you're either still going to have quarterback, tackle or pass rusher,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: probably the number one overall. Picking the draft. This felt
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: like a year where had there been an elite Julio Jones,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Jamar Chase type guy coming out. You just wonder how
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: tempted the Jaguars might have been. Yeah, or even crazy
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: to think if this isn't if this is last year
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: and Kyle Pitts is there and as tight and so bad,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: do you even read for that? Which is crazy? I
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: think that a tight and go one. But man, you
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: need it, and if it's there was in this draft, um,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: I'd begin a lot of these questions about it. Yes
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: you sure? How it answered? Yes? Absolutely? We have much
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: more to come on Jaguars Happy Hours, stay with us,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: much more draft talk, much more Combine talk coming up.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Stay with us. Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour. John Osier
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: and Ashland Sullivan here live in Indianapolis, live at Radio Row.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Our last day of live coverage here from the Indianapolis
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Scouting Combine and major news today regarding COVID and oh
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: my gosh, we have made it for two years. There
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: have been strict protocols and tears and testing and tracking
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: devices and separate hallways. And now today they cleared the
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: protocols we've been waiting for this day they really have.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: It's a could us slim you know, take people behind
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: the scenes. There's been certain things we have been able
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: to do. It's been certain interviews we haven't been able to, uh,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: to get your famous walk offs, able to get as
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: many as camp camping next one as he likes. So
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: that will come back. More pertinent to football operations is
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: the players. I think we'll have a chance to get
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: back to normal in terms of their routine, in terms
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: of not having to test and and I think that
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: will create more of a chance for team more together
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: in this more camaraderie, less separation in the locker room.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: For the players, I think they will look forward to
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: getting back to what they I guess the football environment
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: that they all grew up with, you know, would be
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: in the locker room, uh, beyond the team bus, not separated.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: All those things that they grew up around. They will
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: be able to get back too. And it will just
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: make organizationally, it's much easier to function in the NFL.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: More bonding. Yes, he's awesome, speaking of bonding, kind of
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: speaking NFL Combine. So today is tonight is on field workouts,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: but the Jaguars have been going through formal interviews this
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: entire week. Those started Tuesday and they will interview forty
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: five prospects for fifteen minutes each. And we sat down
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: with head coach Doug Peterson about this process. This is
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: now his thirteenth year at the NFL Combine and he
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: said he gets so much out of the formal interview process.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: The coolest part about it, Johnny, you'll be able to
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: watch this interview soon on Jaguars dot com is he
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: talked about the skill positions and what they use the
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: white board forward in that portion in quarterbacks and wide
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: receivers drawing up plays and you could just see the
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: football i Q was really starting to go when you
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: asked him about that, and a guy was so much experience.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: To have him in your room doing that is crucial. Yeah,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: and they get a chance. I doubt that they make
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: their final decision based on that, but it's certainly when
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: they put these guys on the board and they start
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: talking x as and os with them, it gives them
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: an idea of their personality type. And I'm not sure
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: if it was Doug or Trent may have been. Doug
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: said on our air this week. Um, it gives you
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: a chance to see how they function in the work
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: day under pressure. And that's what the Combine can give them,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: not necessarily anything specific out of an interview, but if
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: if you give a kid, hey, what would you do
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: in this situation, here's our scheme, what would you expect
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: out of this? It gives them a chance to see
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: how they react. We're gonna cover Tony Dungeon, Indianapolis. He
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: used to talk about he would come to the Combine
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: and as much as he would get something out of
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: the interview process, his thing was some of those answers
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: are very canned. So what he would do often is
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: go and watch guys during their drills when they didn't
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: know they were being watched. How they behaved around other, uh,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: other prospects in their group, whether they were naturally the leader,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: whether they were reserved. And he said, you didn't make
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: decisions based on it, but you know, coaches have never
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: seen and been around these guys before, so they're just
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: looking for something to give them an idea. What is
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: this guy going to be like once he's in our building?
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: What am I dealing with? Can you function with the
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: rest of the people. Is it going to be a problem.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Probably doesn't make your decision number one. But when you're
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: in the third round and you're wondering about and you've
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: got five guys on the board, at some point it
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: becomes a gut feeling where somebody says, you know what,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: all five of those guys are fine. I had a
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: good vibe about this kid. Yeah, absolutely somewhere as a
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: human being that comes into play. Yeah, And it's it's
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: funny we were talking about and in some ways everyone
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: can relate to this process. It's it's a job interview.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: And granted it's much more pressurized than a normal job
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: interview because it's only fifteen minutes along in front of
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: thirty two NFL teams, But that's what he said. You know,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: it's a formal job interview, and NFL Sundays are an
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: incredibly high pressured situation. So this is the way it
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: has to be. It has to be pressurized, and we
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: have to be tough on them because if they can't
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: handle it now, they can't handle it on Sunday. And
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: in fifteen minutes doesn't sound like a lot, but when
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: you start doing the math for every team with the
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: head coach having to be in their forty five times
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: or fifteen minutes. I'm not very good at math, but
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: that's minutes um. The same thing with the prospect. The
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: prospect fifteen minutes times. Say the interview with twelve teams,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: that's four hours. If if it's all back to back
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: by that eleventh one, you're hearing the same questions in
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: your little days. Most teams, again, as Trent Baalky said
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: on air this week, this is a piece of the puzzle.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: You don't necessarily blow your chance at being drafted if
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: you have one bad interview. But I think teams do
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: look at a guy who can have a good interview
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: on his eleventh Okay, this kid maybe has a little
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: more mental stamina. This kid is you know, by the
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: eleventh interview, all your prepared answers are kind of gone,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: so maybe a little bit more of yourself is showing through.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: It's all part of that overall mosaic impression you have
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: of a kid. So it's always important to remember the
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: combine as trand ball. He said this week most general
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: manager's ever been around, and said it a piece of
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: the puzzle, but it's it's their first and sometimes only
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: chance to have the personality piece of the puzzle as
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: opposed to film numbers. Uh, it's it's an a live
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: piece rather than a computerized piece. And I thought it
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: was really interesting because I think the perspective from fans
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: and truthfully me before I've covered this a couple of years.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: As you come here and you think, Okay, they saw
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: all these prospects. Now their draft board is going to
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: completely change. They're gonna fly back to Jackson, will tear
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: it all up and trump, Baulky was saying, not necessarily.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: It basically says, okay, if we missed this and this
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: prospects ran a great forty time, how did we miss that?
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: And you go back and watch the film. It was
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: just interesting that not near as traumatic as he once thought.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Bill Polian, who I worked with for ten years and Indy,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: used to talk about it in exactly the same verbiage
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: that Trent used. It's a flag if you will. Yeah,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: you've got your board, you've got your rankings, you've got
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: what you think, so you can every part of the
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: draft process is okay, that's there. Okay. Now we went
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: to his pro day. Does that line up with what
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: we thought? Yes, it confirms everything we've interviewed the kid. Yes,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: it confirms everything. You go to the combine. Hey, he
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: ran two tents of a second faster than we thought
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: he was going to. Okay, well, let's go back, Let's
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: do the homework, Let's make sure we didn't miss Let's
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: call his college coach, Let's call somebody, make sure to
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: give this kid run. Let's go back. Or is he
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: just as Trent said the other day? Is he just
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: a good tester? It gives them a reason to go
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: back and do some extra work and make sure they're
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: not missing anything. It's part of the process, but in
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: no way. Again, there will be new mock drafts next week. Yes,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: there will be people talking about right, this guy's stock
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: is right, and that's the great words the stock is right,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: trendy or around here. That's that's great for fans, observers
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: and mock drafters, it's not really the reality of how
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: draft rooms work. Closing minutes here of Jaguars Happy Hour,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: it is going to be a very busy next two weeks.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Seems like the Jaguars off seasons have always been full
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: of storylines, lately, but these next two weeks kind of underrated.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: How much will be decided in these next two weeks.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: We're getting a lot of questions about why receiver d
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: J Chark. Do they franchise Hagle, do they bring them back?
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Are they're going to let him test free agency? We
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: see so many scenarios playing out, and you'd love for
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: d to to come back because he's an awesome player
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: to cover. But the more I hear around here, it
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: might not be the case. Yeah, it's it's tough, and
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: you know, I would love for d Jr. To come back.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: I love him as a person. I personally think that
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: what we've seen of him over four years, it feels
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: to me like he's a guy who is going to
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: have a better year five through eight of his career
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: than he had a or one through four. Um, he
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: made the Pro Bowl in because it was nineteen and
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: to me, even the Pro Bowl, you're just scratched the surface.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: But I also get if the Jaguars take the route of,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: you know what, we just haven't seen enough, we have
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: to go in a different direction, which again I don't
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: know if they're gonna do that. That's one of the options.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: If they do that, fans are going to wonder why.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: But the reality is he has not shown on a
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: consistent basis and done it, and he's had four years
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: to do it, so you understand why somebody would say,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: we just haven't seen it yet. So that's a direction
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: that I'm not sure which way they're going to go.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I think people who may be tuning in now watch
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: the top of the show. The conversation may with Pete
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Prisco about offensive line. They can go a lot of
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: different ways on offensive line coming up, and it is
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: not a clear cut dilemma over whether you keep Frint,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: you keep Cam Robinson, you draft to tackle in that
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: spot and there's a domino effect there or it's fascinating.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: It is how the negotiations go with Cam is going
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: to shape a lot of this draft for other teams,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: as we mentioned, and for the Jaguars, and it's uh,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: the reactions to what happens Ashlynd will be very How
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: in the world could they do that? The reality is,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: with both of those players, there are arguments to be
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: made on both sides. It's what makes it so fascinating
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: to me. It is because the m O of the
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Jaguars and past years has been they don't keep their
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: players they're good players, and Doug Peterson and Trump Bulky
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: made a point on Tuesday to say that, But I
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: don't want people to think that means, oh, they're obviously
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: they'm going to keep Cam Robinson in d J chart.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: That's what they meant, not necessarily. They said this starts
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: right here, drafting good players, keeping them. But when I
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: say that, everyone's like, oh, that must mean you know
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: they're paying Cam Robinson. Well, not the case I think
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: they would like to. I mean, you know, if it's
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: the right price, and it always compromised to oh there
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: being no You've got to make sure that the value
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: fits the player. I think I would like to pay Cam.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: If you're like, there are guys they would like to pay,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: does it fit what you want to do long term?
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: And is the value there? Uh, it's negligent if the
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: GM and personnel people don't take those things in any consideration,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: and this regime certainly will. Yes, it all seems to
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: be a compromise, and really a lot of it when
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: we talk about wide receiver is on kind of d
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: J Charks shoulders if he comes down on his price
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: and says all right, you know, I'll play for twelve,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: thirteen whatever million. Okay, deal done, and you can see
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: that happening. But I totally see d J. Chark side
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: of you know, I want to be wide receiver number one,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: and I want to go test the waters to see
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: if I can make that twenty million dollar contract that
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem like he's going to get in Jacksonville. Yeah,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: and I have no idea the numbers um because the
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: franchise tag I think was close to almost twenty million
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: dollars and he's not going to get that. Those are tough.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: It is truly a matter of if he had more
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: production in Jacksonville, even with people making the decisions, I
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: think it would be an easier decision. It's also a
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: matter of it's very easy to say, well, go test
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: free agency, excuse me, and we will see how it goes,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: how the market bears. The problem is realistically, once a
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: player gets out there on free agency, it's very rare
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: for them to come back to the former team just
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: because there's a little bit of a chip. So you
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: go to create some negative feelings. You're out there, you're
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: being wowed by somebody else. I generally think once a
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: player is out there, they don't come back. There's exceptions
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: to that rule, but it's always a word. Yes, I
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  Speaker 1: totally agree. And your fear is that if you less
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  Speaker 1: let them test the waters, or if you let them walk.
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  Speaker 1: And you see it on a much smaller scale with
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  Speaker 1: Alan Lizard who was on the Jaguars practice squad. The
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars let him go and then he becomes a serious
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  Speaker 1: downfield threat in green Bank and everyone uses that example.
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  Speaker 1: How could you have let him outside your building? That's
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  Speaker 1: d J Charkin two years killing it for another team.
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  Speaker 1: Allen Robinson's a good an example of that. Uh, that's
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  Speaker 1: a real danger with you, because again I think his
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  Speaker 1: year five through eight will be better than his year
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  Speaker 1: one through four. Question is does that mean that it's
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  Speaker 1: worth what he might bear on the open market? Fortunately, Slynn,
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  Speaker 1: those decisions are way above my pay way. Wait, wait,
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  Speaker 1: if I even have a pay grade, I think you do,
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  Speaker 1: especially here. You've done great work this week, I'll say,
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  Speaker 1: and you as well. Thank you. All right, so let
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  Speaker 1: fans know what else is coming up for you the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the week. The rest of the week, um
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: will be more coverage, still sort of parsing through the
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  Speaker 1: press conversation Tuesday. Also, I'm not sure that our conversation
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  Speaker 1: with Charles Davis's run yet. Um, that was very interesting.
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  Speaker 1: We talked to him yesterday. The should run in Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: dot Com. I'll be writing off that as well. And
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  Speaker 1: next week I should have an ozone podcast with Tony Pauline,
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  Speaker 1: who's been with Jaguars dot Com working and talking to
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  Speaker 1: us for uppers of twenty years, and he's always one
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  Speaker 1: of the most interesting people to talk to in NFLS circle.
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  Speaker 1: So I would definitely watch for that. Yes, he it's
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  Speaker 1: a very well connected man. We also have the interview
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: that we talked about with Doug Peterson in the interview room,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: all about that interview process. That's going to go up
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: on tonight's on Jaguars dot Com. We have on fuel
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: workouts starting tonight's. Of course, the Hunts are long form series,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: all kinds of written content as well. It's been a
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  Speaker 1: long week, John, We've done a lot of great work.
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  Speaker 1: I'll say we've done work. We have. It's been great,
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  Speaker 1: we absolutely have. And then next week we're gonna start
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  Speaker 1: on Drivetime and happier, we're gonna start talking about free agency.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: We don't get much break around here. It comes up
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  Speaker 1: quick and the next two weeks. As you said, the
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  Speaker 1: future of a lot of different things, long term and
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: short term, will go down in the next week two weeks.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to. I am to entertaining stuff going
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  Speaker 1: on in Jacksonville as well as an indie. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: for tuning into our combine coverage. Stay with us on
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