Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / The Motor Trade Association's Tom Edwards is hoping Australia doesn’t follow the European Union in banning the sale of new petrol and diesel cars until appropriate measures are in place
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The European Union has passed the law, effectively banning the
- 0:03Speaker 1: sale of new petrol and diesel cars by twenty thirty five.
- 0:07Speaker 1: It raises concerns for the Motor Trade Association, which say
- 0:11Speaker 1: that Australia must not follow suit. To shed some further
- 0:14Speaker 1: light on why is Tom Edwards, the Motor Trade Association spokesperson,
- 0:19Speaker 1: good morning to you, Tom.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. How's it going?
- 0:22Speaker 1: Yeah, really good? Thank you so much for your time
- 0:24Speaker 1: this morning, Tom. If introduced, will this effectively force drivers
- 0:29Speaker 1: to well adopt electric vehicles.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Fectually in the European Union? That is correct, and so
- 0:36Speaker 2: our very strong methods share in Australia is that we
- 0:39Speaker 2: don't want to distort market intervention. We want to make
- 0:43Speaker 2: sure that we approach.
- 0:45Speaker 3: And accelerate electric geggles in a pragmatic and practical way,
- 0:49Speaker 3: and we're very much in favor of evings, so we
- 0:52Speaker 3: think we need to do it in a sensible way,
- 0:54Speaker 3: particularly given the fact that the European market is uniquely
- 0:58Speaker 3: different to Australia. One example in the Norway, which is
- 1:02Speaker 3: seen as largely the electric vehicle leader amongst many other countries.
- 1:07Speaker 3: They sell about eighty percent of their new carss each
- 1:10Speaker 3: year are electric vehicles, but that only equates to twenty
- 1:15Speaker 3: percent of the overall cars on their roads right. Compare that,
- 1:19Speaker 3: for example, through the territory only one percent or not
- 1:23Speaker 3: even one percent of all new cars last years with
- 1:26Speaker 3: ev So we've been a long way to go.
- 1:29Speaker 2: We're saying we're in favor of it, but let's make
- 1:31Speaker 2: sure we do it the right way.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and do it in a way that you
- 1:35Speaker 1: know that we're ready for as well, I guess even
- 1:37Speaker 1: when it comes to infrastructure and that kind of thing
- 1:39Speaker 1: for us here on the territory, absolutely.
- 1:42Speaker 2: There are a lot of issues for us to work
- 1:44Speaker 2: through and we're very committed to it, but we are
- 1:46Speaker 2: a little bit behind the able compared to our European counterparts.
- 1:49Speaker 2: The things like you touch on charging infrastructure, making sure
- 1:53Speaker 2: that there is enough adequate charging networks to be able
- 1:56Speaker 2: to actually make sure your car can go from point
- 1:59Speaker 2: A to point there are a range of things to consider,
- 2:02Speaker 2: and also not just charging, but also the price and
- 2:05Speaker 2: particularly compared in the territory for utes, which we know
- 2:09Speaker 2: are the overall favorite model for territories, and paying over
- 2:14Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars for an EVU probably just doesn't
- 2:17Speaker 2: pass the buck. A lot of people.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Absolutely, Well, that's been the biggest thing, hasn't it. Like
- 2:22Speaker 1: I think in theory it's it's wonderful to think, let's
- 2:25Speaker 1: all drive electric vehicles, but it can be incredibly expensive
- 2:29Speaker 1: to make that transition.
- 2:31Speaker 2: It can be, and also not just in the sense
- 2:35Speaker 2: of the expense, but if, for example, you want to
- 2:38Speaker 2: drive a ute and it's an electric vehicle, your payload
- 2:41Speaker 2: and towing capacity is limited. So again we're in favor
- 2:45Speaker 2: of it, but we're saying we're saying, let's have a
- 2:47Speaker 2: maturer conversation and see what it actually means on the ground.
- 2:50Speaker 2: And that's why has contributed towards the National Electric Vehicle
- 2:55Speaker 2: Strategy hopefully released shortly, and making sure that for the
- 3:00Speaker 2: everyday person who does want to be environmentally conscious that
- 3:03Speaker 2: is actually possible for them without hurting their pockets.
- 3:08Speaker 1: Tom What does it mean though? As well? Like you know,
- 3:10Speaker 1: for most of us, you've either got a diesel or
- 3:12Speaker 1: a petrol car. Even if you get to the point
- 3:15Speaker 1: where then you're going, all right, well I'm going to
- 3:17Speaker 1: go electric. Are you going to be able to trade
- 3:20Speaker 1: it in in the same way that you usually would
- 3:23Speaker 1: I'm assuming not if we're getting to the point where
- 3:25Speaker 1: you're phasing them out.
- 3:27Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. And so one of our main concerns
- 3:29Speaker 2: is that if we do adopt similar short term benchmarks,
- 3:33Speaker 2: which the European Union has done, it means that the
- 3:36Speaker 2: trading value of existing petrol and diesel cars would effectively plummet. Now,
- 3:41Speaker 2: obviously we don't want that because we want to make
- 3:43Speaker 2: sure that people can use the value of their existing
- 3:46Speaker 2: car to upgrade to an electric vehicle. So what we're
- 3:49Speaker 2: saying is, yes, we're in favor of electric vehicles, but
- 3:53Speaker 2: let's not punish people who can not afford it those
- 3:56Speaker 2: high prices for electric vehicles by effectively putting amount of
- 4:00Speaker 2: the market.
- 4:01Speaker 1: So where are we at right now in Australia? What
- 4:04Speaker 1: is the policy? I know that you mentioned that there
- 4:06Speaker 1: is a I think you said a review underway, But
- 4:09Speaker 1: what do you think we're going to move to here?
- 4:12Speaker 2: I think we definitely are increasing our electric vehicle stalles.
- 4:15Speaker 2: Then that's really qualities and we are supportive of it,
- 4:17Speaker 2: but probably in the short term anyway, the biggest player
- 4:21Speaker 2: and contributor will be hybrids. Hybrids are becoming more and
- 4:25Speaker 2: more popular and Additionally, for the territory where we do
- 4:29Speaker 2: have a lot of trucking, a lot of heavy commercial vehicles,
- 4:34Speaker 2: hydrogen will also be a player in it. We see
- 4:36Speaker 2: that to start to come up. So I think there's
- 4:39Speaker 2: a broad range of things. Australia definitely is behind the
- 4:43Speaker 2: able compared to some of the European nations, but that
- 4:46Speaker 2: also provides us an opportunity to do things which to
- 4:50Speaker 2: avoid doing things which they've done wrong. We are picking
- 4:54Speaker 2: out there is a long way to go.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Yeah, I had heard that, you know, hydrogen is going
- 4:59Speaker 1: to be the way that we sort of move as
- 5:01Speaker 1: well when it comes to our vehicles, and we still
- 5:03Speaker 1: it sounds as though we're still a little while away
- 5:05Speaker 1: from that though we.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Are and there are some manufacturers who have invested in it.
- 5:10Speaker 2: But again it's another option for both industry, both commercial
- 5:15Speaker 2: and also for everyday people. But we are a little
- 5:18Speaker 2: bit long ways to go, and that is why hybrids
- 5:21Speaker 2: are probably the most popular alternative type positive vehicle. Yeah,
- 5:25Speaker 2: there are more and more people getting events. We're saying it,
- 5:28Speaker 2: but like I said, the territory only having about one
- 5:31Speaker 2: percent of Utah.
- 5:34Speaker 1: Two, we are a little bit of well motor trade
- 5:38Speaker 1: Association spokesperson Tom Edwards, It's always great to catch up
- 5:42Speaker 1: with you. Thank you so very much for having a
- 5:44Speaker 1: chat with us about this one this morning. Thanks so much,
- 5:47Speaker 1: thank you.