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ABC vs FCC | Pepper-Spraying Drones in Schools · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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  Speaker 1: six forty.
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  Speaker 2: Six forty Friday morning, July thirty one, Ask candle anything
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  Speaker 2: at the bottom of the eight o'clock hour. Footy Friday
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  Speaker 2: at eight o'clock with Neil m MOI. Some of the
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  Speaker 2: stories we are looking at. Mortgage rates climb to their
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  Speaker 2: highest averages in the of the year, so that's not fun.
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  Speaker 2: An agreement has been made Hamas will disarm and it
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  Speaker 2: looks like it's the first step in a multi phase
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  Speaker 2: peace planned and the war and there's a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: other terms. Israel has to withdraw completely, Hamas has to
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  Speaker 2: let Israel know where all the tunnels are so they
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  Speaker 2: can be blown up. And there has to be tons
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  Speaker 2: of money to rebuild Gaza, of which only eighty percent
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  Speaker 2: has been decimated, where there's very very few buildings left standing.
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  Speaker 2: All right, The fight between Disney and the Trump administration
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  Speaker 2: is going on, and it is heating up, and it
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  Speaker 2: is in testify. It has intensify.
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  Speaker 3: There's the word I'm looking at.
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  Speaker 2: And what the FCC wants to do is basically force
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  Speaker 2: ABC to give up and just unload their local television stations. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the FCC does not control networks. It only controls individual
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  Speaker 2: television stations, and those stations are licensed individually by the FCC.
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  Speaker 2: So the move is from the Trump administration getting really
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  Speaker 2: pissed off at Disney that owns ABC h and asking
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  Speaker 2: ABC or those stations to renew their licenses early. The
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  Speaker 2: application is every two years, and they wanted an earlier
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  Speaker 2: application process just for the ABC stations, mind you, not
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  Speaker 2: for other stations. And ABC is saying, this is real simple,
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  Speaker 2: this is retaliation, intimidation, retribution.
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  Speaker 3: And it's all on behalf of the president.
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  Speaker 2: So the FCC Brendan Carr, took a very rare step
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  Speaker 2: and demanded that Disney defend the broadcast licenses of eight
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  Speaker 2: ABC stations, the biggest ones. And this is a problem
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  Speaker 2: because if ABC loses its eight biggest stations, obviously ABC
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  Speaker 2: is weakened, weakened big time. And according to Disney, the
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  Speaker 2: FCC has spent the last eighteen months searching for some
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  Speaker 2: pretexts for yanking these licenses. According to Disney attorneys, Disney
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  Speaker 2: said the commission found none, said there are no license
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  Speaker 2: regulations that have been violated, and the stations easily meet
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  Speaker 2: the requirements. And what ABC is saying is that this
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  Speaker 2: move against ABC by the FCC has everything to do
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  Speaker 2: with Trump's dislike ABC's network programs. Late April, when Jimmy
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  Speaker 2: Kimmel made a joke about Trump's health and First Lady
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  Speaker 2: Millennia Trump, the FCC launched its investigation one day after
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  Speaker 2: the President ripped into ABC.
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  Speaker 3: One day and for the first.
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  Speaker 2: Time in history, the FCC Commission is ordered an entire
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  Speaker 2: group of local TV stations to undergo simultaneous license renewal
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  Speaker 2: proceedings before their current licenses expired. It's never been done
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  Speaker 2: where all of these stations are asked.
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  Speaker 3: To earlier apply for their license.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, and the FCC, he said, here's why we're doing this,
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  Speaker 2: and we launched the investigation early last year. We want
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  Speaker 2: to scrutinize Disney's internal diversity equity inclusion programs to see
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  Speaker 2: if ABC has violated anti discrimination laws.
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  Speaker 3: That is what the administration is hanging its hat on.
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  Speaker 2: Diversity DEI inclusion is in and of itself discriminatory because
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  Speaker 2: it brings minorities in a higher position, gives them preference
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  Speaker 2: over white folks. So one of the big deals is
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  Speaker 2: the inquiry over the view, and the view has an
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  Speaker 2: exemption granted to news programs that are not obligated to
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  Speaker 2: provide equal time for opposing opposing views. Now, the equal
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  Speaker 2: time rule which we used to be part of, if
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  Speaker 2: I went out for examp and I brought in a
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  Speaker 2: political or John or brings in a political interview of
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  Speaker 2: one side, it used to be that you have to
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  Speaker 2: give the other side the same amount of time. Still
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  Speaker 2: on the books, but not enforced at all. Well, the
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  Speaker 2: FCC wants to bring that back. And then my question is, uh,
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  Speaker 2: is that happening also to Fox when it talks about
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  Speaker 2: when it brings Sean Hannity, Laura Ingram, Mark Levin on
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  Speaker 2: for their programs, which are about as anti Trump as
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  Speaker 2: you can get. Now, the same thing goes on CNN.
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  Speaker 2: Do they are they required to bring in the opposite view?
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  Speaker 2: Is MSNBC, which is now called whatever.
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  Speaker 3: The hell is called? Uh? Yeah, I have no idea
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  Speaker 3: what it's an ms now?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, are they required because there that is insanely liberal?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it just isn't. It's just not being done, although
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  Speaker 3: it's probably going to have to. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: The FC is going balls to the wall against anything
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  Speaker 2: or anybody or any network or a company that is
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  Speaker 2: anti Trump. It's a case of retribution, simple as that,
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  Speaker 2: you say anything against the president, he uses the powers
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  Speaker 2: of the presidency, the executive branch, in this case, the FCC,
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  Speaker 2: to go after that organization. Man well, as I said
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  Speaker 2: many many times before, we are in a whole new
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  Speaker 2: world to say the least. Okay, I have a question
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  Speaker 2: to ask you. You've heard me tell you that one
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  Speaker 2: of the big, big deals. Whenever one passes a law,
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  Speaker 2: whenever the legislature or we do a proposition passes the law,
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  Speaker 2: the problem is always unintended consequences. I was involved very
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  Speaker 2: heavily in creating the surrogacy laws in the state of
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  Speaker 2: California early on, because I was one of the few
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  Speaker 2: people that knew what the hell I was talking about.
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  Speaker 2: We spent more time talking about unintended consequences than the
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  Speaker 2: law itself. And let me give you an example of
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  Speaker 2: what's going on. In twenty twenty four, we the people
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  Speaker 2: of California passed Prop.
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  Speaker 3: Thirty six. Oh boy did we pass it.
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  Speaker 2: Seventy percent of the vote we got, and it combines
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  Speaker 2: addiction treatment with punishment. It was going to put California
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  Speaker 2: on the path of dealing with chronic homelessness and in incarceration,
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  Speaker 2: sort of putting the two together. And this came about
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  Speaker 2: when we saw those videos of packs of smash and
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  Speaker 2: grab thieves and drug markets in San Francisco seemed to
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  Speaker 2: be everywhere. So you have a group of tough on
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  Speaker 2: crime conservatives put the two issues together, created Prop thirty six,
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of new laws that would put combine addiction
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  Speaker 2: treatment with punishment for those who refu used or failed
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  Speaker 2: to kick their drug habits. Okay, voters loved that, so
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  Speaker 2: here we go. That was twenty twenty four, two years later,
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  Speaker 2: and now the realities of Prop thirty six have come
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  Speaker 2: into the forefront, not what most voters thought. They were approving,
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  Speaker 2: unintended consequences, and right now the implementation of Prop thirty
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  Speaker 2: six is a mess. It's putting California on a path
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  Speaker 2: of dealing with chronic homelessness through incarceration. That's what it's
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  Speaker 2: actually doing. It's putting people who are drug addicted into prison,
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  Speaker 2: which didn't happen before.
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  Speaker 3: Now. The promise of.
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  Speaker 2: Prop thirty six is that people struggling with addiction would
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  Speaker 2: have access to treatment, complete that treatment, and it wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: impact their record if they did that otherwise they go
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  Speaker 2: to prison. Okay, less than one percent of the people
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  Speaker 2: actually realize that benefit.
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  Speaker 3: Many, many menny.
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  Speaker 2: More like ninety nine percent are getting arrested for these
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  Speaker 2: drug addiction programs or through drug violating. Drug addition law
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  Speaker 2: and Prop. Thirty six created a brand new crime, a
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  Speaker 2: treatment mandated felony. If you don't go into one of
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  Speaker 2: these treatment centers or programs, you will be charged with
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  Speaker 2: a felony. Where heretofore it was a misdemeanor, they created
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  Speaker 2: a felony if you don't go. In forty thousand new
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  Speaker 2: felony arrests statewide on drug or theft charges, many of
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  Speaker 2: them on repeat offenders, petty theft, drug prediction, drug possession charges,
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  Speaker 2: all misdemeanors that have become felonies. A stat ten nine
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  Speaker 2: hundred and thirty six thirty seven felony drug cases tracked
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  Speaker 2: by twenty nine courts. They looked at one three hundred
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  Speaker 2: and five defendants elected to receive the treatment program. They
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  Speaker 2: would take their chances. We'll go into treatment of those
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  Speaker 2: who successfully completed the treatment and had their charges dismissed.
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  Speaker 2: So let's start with ten thous or eleven thousand, and
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  Speaker 2: then you have thirteen hundred elected to receive the treatment.
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  Speaker 2: How many people successfully completed and had the charges dismiss
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  Speaker 2: thirty six people.
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  Speaker 3: Boy, there's a stat thirty six people. So is it
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  Speaker 3: time to undo that program? You bet?
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  Speaker 2: Because Prop thirty six is an utter complete failure. And
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  Speaker 2: one of the things I hate about propositions is they
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  Speaker 2: are written by the proposition proponents and can say anything
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  Speaker 2: they want, which is why, for example, Prop one hundred
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  Speaker 2: people's people's moving against taxes. When you look at it,
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  Speaker 2: it's really in favor of taxes. Here's a rule of thumb.
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  Speaker 2: Whenever you see a proposition explained to you during an
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  Speaker 2: ad go the other way because that's what that's what
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  Speaker 2: the proposition is about. And always look at who is
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  Speaker 2: promoting it, because that tells you everything, who is promoting it.
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  Speaker 3: There's one right now.
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  Speaker 2: It talks about how horrific the law is going to be,
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  Speaker 2: and you're going to get nailed, You're going to pay
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  Speaker 2: too much, it's going to ruin your purchasing power through
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  Speaker 2: your credit cards, and then at the bottom paid for
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  Speaker 2: by the people who control credit card transactions. Okay, all right,
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  Speaker 2: we're done with that. Unintended consequences it's a mess. And
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  Speaker 2: originally propositions were created because there was too much corruption
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  Speaker 2: in the state legislature. Now it's gone the other way.
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  Speaker 2: All right, how do you deal with schools well and
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  Speaker 2: active shooters and security? And we already know active shooter.
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  Speaker 2: They have all kinds of drills, active shooter drills, which
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  Speaker 2: is crazy, by the way, because we used to have
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  Speaker 2: drills when I went to elementary school, and they were
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  Speaker 2: anti Russian atomic bomb drills where you would dive under
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  Speaker 2: the desks and then put your ass against the window,
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  Speaker 2: put your head, your hands over your knees or over
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  Speaker 2: your neck on your knees hands, and when the bomb comes,
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  Speaker 2: I guess the windows would blow in and your head
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  Speaker 2: would be blown off one thousandth of a nano second
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  Speaker 2: before your butt would fry.
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  Speaker 1: You know what's odd? There is a question about that
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  Speaker 1: in the ass handle anything today?
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  Speaker 2: Is there really yeah about you and that very topic? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: well that's really odd, that is very odd. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: now it is active shooter drills. Now there are always
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  Speaker 2: fire drills, which is a given, and earthquake drills which
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  Speaker 2: have happened forever. But we have switched from the atomic
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  Speaker 2: bomb coming in from Russia drills to the active shooter drills. Also,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever seen those towers with
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  Speaker 2: the big yellow megaphone kinds of things, the speaker.
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  Speaker 1: All the old ones. Yeah, used to be their raids.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and those were specifically for atomic bomb attacks, that's
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  Speaker 2: what they were.
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  Speaker 1: There's a couple in my neighborhood.
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  Speaker 3: And they don't work anymore.
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  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, they're not connected to anything,
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  Speaker 2: but think it was long gone. And every Friday, or
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  Speaker 2: excuse me, the last Friday of the month at ten o'clock.
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  Speaker 3: It would be the drill. You'd hear the siren go off.
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  Speaker 2: And I was a kid, and of course the joke
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  Speaker 2: was always when the Russians dropped the bomb on the
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  Speaker 2: last Friday of the month at ten o'clock, and everybody
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  Speaker 2: think it was a drill. And I asked that question
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  Speaker 2: to one of the experts that used to have experts
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  Speaker 2: in that world, and I was told, what you hear
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  Speaker 2: in that siren is a fraction of what you're going
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  Speaker 2: to hear if it ever really does happen. And then
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  Speaker 2: they were building bomb shelters. I remember Sears was obviously
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  Speaker 2: a huge department store and they were selling bomb shelters
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  Speaker 2: at sears and in the parking lot they had built.
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  Speaker 2: The contractor had built a bomb shelter underground in the
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  Speaker 2: parking lot. I mean, it was crazy in those days.
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  Speaker 2: We are getting just as crazy now as far as
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  Speaker 2: active shooter and securities, active shooter drills and security. So
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  Speaker 2: schools and at least three states their pilot programs are
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  Speaker 2: going to be equipped with drones this year that will
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  Speaker 2: zoom through halls, be able to smash windows, spray pepper,
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  Speaker 2: spray active shooters when the teachers report them or then
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  Speaker 2: there were security people see them on their TV screens.
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  Speaker 2: At least nine schools, three in Florida, five in Georgia,
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  Speaker 2: one in Colorado. I'm surprised we don't have one here
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  Speaker 2: in California. We'll actually have storage boxes that house these aircraft,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to call it. These drones. They're plastic,
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  Speaker 2: they're non lethal, although they could easily be made made lethal.
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  Speaker 2: I like that the idea of spraying a hallway with
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  Speaker 2: kids they're running away, just the just the entertainment value
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  Speaker 2: of that. The drones can be activated by teachers and
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  Speaker 2: are capable of reach reaching a shooter within fifteen seconds.
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  Speaker 3: See any problems with that, I don't know. Maybe there's
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  Speaker 3: a problem or two.
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  Speaker 2: After Uvaldi in Texas where the police didn't break into
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  Speaker 2: the door of those classrooms in which those kids were
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  Speaker 2: shot up and killed, that sort of changed the thinking
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  Speaker 2: of security.
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  Speaker 3: How much more can we do?
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  Speaker 2: And at least nine schools three and four to five
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  Speaker 2: in Georgia, one in Colorado are now testing drones, drones,
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  Speaker 2: security drones, Drones that go down the hallway, drones that
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  Speaker 2: can break open a window and get into a classroom.
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  Speaker 2: Drones activated by teachers can reach a shooter within fifteen seconds,
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  Speaker 2: flashing strobes, blaring siren, spraying pepper spray, ramming into the
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  Speaker 2: active shooter, even at sixty miles per hour. Bill Kinge
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  Speaker 2: was a retired Navy seal and co founded this company,
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  Speaker 2: Mythral Defense. Once I get the drones on you, you just
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  Speaker 2: can't escape them. Now, by the way, there's a multi
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  Speaker 2: billion dollar industry high tech security on campuses. Now they
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  Speaker 2: are a problem or two on that one. For example,
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  Speaker 2: how do you know who's an active shooter and who isn't.
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  Speaker 3: And let's say there is.
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  Speaker 2: An active gun, Yeah, well a gun works, yeah, And.
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  Speaker 1: So they're actively shooting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that helps.
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  Speaker 2: So you have a bunch of people running down the hallway,
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  Speaker 2: you don't know which one is the bad guy, So
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  Speaker 2: let's send the drone down and pepper spray everybody.
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  Speaker 1: All right, how's that any different than an officer. It's
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  Speaker 1: not like the drones guessing they don't have eyes in
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  Speaker 1: the drone. I know, but it's not fully autonomous. I
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  Speaker 1: have to make decisions sayers on the ground.
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  Speaker 2: That's the other is that is this just a supplement
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  Speaker 2: to guns or is it beyond that where it's more
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  Speaker 2: easily to make mistakes. And on the side of the drone,
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  Speaker 2: the pro drone people said, the technology and this is
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  Speaker 2: Georgia State represented Matt Dubnick. Dubnik, who is chairman of
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  Speaker 2: the House Appropriations Educations Subcommittee, said, hey, this could protect schools.
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  Speaker 3: That don't have the resource officers on campus.
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  Speaker 2: And when you have police officers that show up, I
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  Speaker 2: think it best three minutes later, four minutes, five minutes,
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  Speaker 2: when the cops show up. These are up in fifteen seconds.
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  Speaker 2: They're put in these boxes the teacher and I don't
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  Speaker 2: know who runs them. Someone runs them, whether it's a
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  Speaker 2: trained teacher, which I would think the teachers will have
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  Speaker 2: an app or from panic buttons to some of the drones.
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  Speaker 2: Professional drone pilots can fly them remotely.
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  Speaker 3: For example.
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  Speaker 2: You have monitors the way we do the alarm monitors,
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  Speaker 2: home monitors, where you know, people can look at cameras.
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  Speaker 2: So they've been tested, but never in real life, never
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  Speaker 2: been involved in a shooting, never has actually been used.
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  Speaker 2: And this all happened, as I said Uvaldi, and then
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  Speaker 2: this guy who started it, he took the technology out
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  Speaker 2: of Russian and Ukrainian military forces using drones to attack
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  Speaker 2: each other, so he figured a non lethal version would
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  Speaker 2: have saved lives in Uvaldi and he said, the first
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  Speaker 2: one and twenty seconds are absolutely critical because that's when
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  Speaker 2: most of the shooting happens. And to get cops there
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  Speaker 2: within two minutes is very difficul Golt because it's considered
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  Speaker 2: immediate response. When cops show up in five minutes, and
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  Speaker 2: what he is saying is by then incredible damage is done.
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  Speaker 2: People have died because it's the first two minutes, and
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  Speaker 2: the drones could be activated at anytime, and they're meant specifically
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  Speaker 2: for potentially lethal situations. I think, does it reach a
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  Speaker 2: point where drones are armed.
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  Speaker 1: You can already buy. I keep up on a lot
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  Speaker 1: of security stuff that you can already buy. They exist.
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  Speaker 1: And guns, gun turrets obviously not legal in California, gun
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  Speaker 1: turrets that have less than lethal and lethal options that
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  Speaker 1: are AI track the AI track intruders on your in
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  Speaker 1: your yard, in your you know, if you have a
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  Speaker 1: very large.
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  Speaker 3: And guns yeah that shoot and kill people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can buy Century units that are robots that
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  Speaker 1: will go through your house with cameras while you're asleep
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  Speaker 1: at night. And if you have a dog. No, they
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  Speaker 1: know the family, they know everybody through AI and anybody
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  Speaker 1: that's not supposed to be there. There's all kinds of
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  Speaker 1: crazy tech. It's just whether it's going to be legal.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, California wouldn't let that happen. In Texas is
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  Speaker 2: probably mandatory because boomer if you don't have one, booby
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  Speaker 2: traps are completely illegal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but would you would have to trespass or do
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  Speaker 1: something to have them triggered.
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  Speaker 2: My favorite anti uh intruder, anti bad guy weapon was
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  Speaker 2: a former police chief chief in South Africa, because in
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  Speaker 2: South Africa people come up with guns. You have a
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  Speaker 2: stop sign and literally people come up on both sides.
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  Speaker 2: Bad guys can stake a gun literally through the window
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  Speaker 2: even when the window is up, and they say give me,
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  Speaker 2: give me all your valueabiles, or I kill you, and
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  Speaker 2: sometimes they do. So you had a South African cop,
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  Speaker 2: former cop, and what he did he is he put
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  Speaker 2: these basically blowers under the car facing outwards. So you
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  Speaker 2: had these basically flame throwers and someone's seen them and
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  Speaker 2: sae as someone comes up and it fried the guy's
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  Speaker 2: legs right off. He went to jail for that, but
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  Speaker 2: it was there were no legs left of that guy.
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  Speaker 2: Those legs were burnt to a crisp that worked.
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  Speaker 1: Tear gas that can shoot out of the sides of cars.
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  Speaker 3: Falco.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, we're done, guys. Coming up, it is Foody Friday
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