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Tupac’s Brother Mopreme Shakur on Keffe D’s Sentencing: “There’s More to Come” · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Moprim Shakur, how you doing? How you feeling over there?
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  Speaker 1: I'm blessed. I'm grateful. Thank God. What's happening?
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  Speaker 2: Have you gotten any rest? I know you just flew back,
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  Speaker 2: you know, over from Vegas. Have you been able to
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  Speaker 2: rest and kind of just recuperate yourself and your mental
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  Speaker 2: a little bit? It's been a lot going on with
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  Speaker 2: you guys and your family for the trial and emotionally
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  Speaker 2: a lot, I'm sure. Rest?
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  Speaker 1: Very little. Yeah. Little. But, you know, I'm grateful.
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  Speaker 2: I can imagine. I mean, I guess I'll start. I
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  Speaker 2: watched a lot of the CNN coverage that Laura Coates did. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, some of the interviews that you did prior
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  Speaker 2: to the sentencing, the 40 years of life that Kifidi
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  Speaker 2: was sentenced with. And I saw a conversation about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: justice and whether or not you guys, you know, felt
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  Speaker 2: like justice would actually come for your family in the trial,
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  Speaker 2: the murder trial of your brother, Tupac Shakur. You know,
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  Speaker 2: with the sentencing here, the 40 years of life, do
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  Speaker 2: you feel like justice has now been served? Or is
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  Speaker 2: that a question that even stands because there's, you know,
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  Speaker 2: loss of life here?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. Justice is, you know, it's subjective. You know, I.
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  Speaker 3: Feel there's been some accountability, but, you know, Justice is
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  Speaker 3: me getting my brother back.
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  Speaker 1: This is murder.
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  Speaker 3: This is death. There ain't no coming back. But so
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  Speaker 3: much justice I'm going to get. I already know that.
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  Speaker 3: But accountability is, I'll take it.
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  Speaker 2: I also got to see and read some of the
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  Speaker 2: testimony that you guys gave, not testimony, but the impact statements.
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  Speaker 2: that you and your sister set gave prior to everything.
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  Speaker 2: Talk to me a bit about, you know, behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 2: kind of just even preparing yourself to be able to
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  Speaker 2: speak in a situation like that, having to relive all
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  Speaker 2: of this and then, you know, having to put words
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  Speaker 2: out there for people to listen to and kind of
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  Speaker 2: use that to make their decision along with everything else
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  Speaker 2: to get to the 40 years to life.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they asked for impact statements, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The impact is unimaginable. It's everlasting ever since we lost five.
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  Speaker 3: So there's so many things we can say. There's so
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  Speaker 3: many things to say. It's been 30 years. You know,
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  Speaker 3: we've lost.
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  Speaker 1: So many people.
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  Speaker 3: There's so many things we can say, and that, it
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  Speaker 3: just created another.
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  Speaker 1: Anxiety with me and my sister. You know, what are
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  Speaker 1: we going to say? What are we going to say?
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  Speaker 1: People are going to listen to us. I just want
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  Speaker 1: to talk from the heart. I want to talk from
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  Speaker 1: the heart.
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  Speaker 3: And, you know, it's making them decisions. It's like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it was necessary, though. It was necessary for us to
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  Speaker 3: figure out what we were going to say, to.
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  Speaker 1: What extent. I'm so proud of my sister. She did
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  Speaker 1: an excellent job.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Because she's, you know, she can get real emotional. And
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  Speaker 3: she kept it together. She got everything out. that covered
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  Speaker 3: a lot of bases. You know, I just wanted to
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  Speaker 3: get a few things through to the judge, like Pac
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  Speaker 3: didn't have no tribe.
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  Speaker 1: Pac didn't have no kids. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Pac has got a death sentence. I felt like those
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  Speaker 3: things were important. It impacted the whole family, not just me.
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  Speaker 3: It impacted all the Pac fans, too. Pac fans and
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  Speaker 3: loved ones because Pac truly truly loved his fans and
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  Speaker 3: um so I thought about them too so that's all
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  Speaker 3: you know I didn't I wasn't trying to grind my
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  Speaker 3: heels on a nigga and shit you know is but
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  Speaker 3: it is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I just can imagine even you know in preparation
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  Speaker 2: or even just speaking from the heart like how I
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  Speaker 2: would feel like before it happened and the day before
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know. I felt for y'all, especially when
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  Speaker 2: your sister started talking about like, you know, like his
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  Speaker 2: tattoo and his scent and I have a younger brother.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm just, I'm imagining, you know, having like me
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  Speaker 2: being in, in, in those shoes and having to think
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  Speaker 2: through all that. And I'm like, man, y'all were so strong,
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  Speaker 2: even though y'all shouldn't have had to have been strong
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  Speaker 2: throughout that whole trial. Like just watching you guys hold
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  Speaker 2: it together. I was like, wow, like 30 years later
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  Speaker 2: or not, that's your brother. You know?
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: And, uh, You know, because dudes acting like Pac didn't
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  Speaker 3: have no family. You know, it was just, you know, whatever.
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  Speaker 3: He ain't got no family, you know? So it was
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  Speaker 3: important for us to be unified, for us to be,
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  Speaker 3: you know, there to represent for Pac.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Nobody else would be.
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  Speaker 2: And when, I mean, because the interviews, the book, all
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  Speaker 2: these things, right, that they use as evidence in convicting
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  Speaker 2: Keefy D in this trial, all of that stuff was
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  Speaker 2: building up over years and over years and over time.
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  Speaker 2: You know, as his family, watching all of that stuff
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  Speaker 2: before this trial happened, what was the feeling like then?
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  Speaker 2: And you said, you know, people were just, he was
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  Speaker 2: acting like there was no family. It's like, you think
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  Speaker 2: of all the words that are put out there and
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  Speaker 2: the stories that he's telling and you guys are having
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  Speaker 2: to hear this and relive this, this whole time prior
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  Speaker 2: to this trial with no, you know, with no counter
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  Speaker 2: per se.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: This, this case, you know, it's been 30 years, 27
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  Speaker 3: years when he got cracked, right?
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  Speaker 1: It's the first time this case has, actually been in
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  Speaker 1: the light of day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: With full examination. You know what I'm saying? And now
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  Speaker 3: some of these things could be addressed. I've been, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I've been wanting some answers. I've been working towards that.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing I could do is use the tools
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  Speaker 3: that I have as being in this game, in this
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  Speaker 3: entertainment industry, working on documentaries. I worked on, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Who Killed Tupac, Unsolved.
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  Speaker 1: All of them, you know, searching.
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  Speaker 3: Because through the documentaries, there's research involved.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you actually look into shit. You find out
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  Speaker 1: new information and how, you know, something.
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  Speaker 3: Because law enforcement wasn't telling us shit for 30 years.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what I could do. That's what I was
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  Speaker 1: involved in. Right.
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  Speaker 3: And, you know, and then to see dude on BET
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  Speaker 3: of all places, bragging about how he killed my brother.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. So, um, you know, I'm grateful.
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  Speaker 1: I'm grateful. We got some justice, especially on dude.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. I mean, I know from documentaries,
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  Speaker 2: I know, you know, you have your book, like there's
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  Speaker 2: been a lot of different things and ways that you
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  Speaker 2: story told, not just about this situation, but about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: your life, um, your work and all the different things
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  Speaker 2: moving forward from here. Um, there's going to be a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people who try to retell this story in
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  Speaker 2: documentary form and book form. Are you planning to do
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  Speaker 2: anything yourself so that now you can kind of control
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  Speaker 2: the narrative a bit more because it, It was like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, so many people and so many different things
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  Speaker 2: that were just everywhere and going everywhere. And I think
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  Speaker 2: now people will be a bit more careful with how
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  Speaker 2: they try to tell the story or tell the story
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  Speaker 2: moving forward. Like, do you plan on doing anything or
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  Speaker 2: putting anything out there about the trial yourself in documentary
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  Speaker 2: form or book form?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I am working on a documentary with Passion Pictures.
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  Speaker 3: The spine of the film is the trial, but it's
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  Speaker 3: really about justice. What is justice for the fam, for me,
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  Speaker 3: for the fans? What is justice 30 years later? At
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  Speaker 3: this point, trial was going on. There was a lot
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  Speaker 3: of reasons to do a piece.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, that's happening.
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  Speaker 2: I think I just saw, were they, are they the
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  Speaker 2: same company that was just announced to be doing something
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  Speaker 2: on the YSL Young Thug trial in Georgia too? With Netflix? No.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I thought I saw that they were that company as well, too.
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  Speaker 1: I'll check. I don't think so, but I'll check.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I appreciate your time and I
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  Speaker 2: appreciate you for joining me. I know, you know, at
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  Speaker 2: this point, it's kind of just like trying to put
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  Speaker 2: the pieces together to your life at this point 30
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  Speaker 2: years later and whatever that may look like for your family.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know where or how you guys begin. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, wishing y'all some comfort in all of this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's like a 30-year-old unsolved mystery, right?
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  Speaker 1: You got you. Who, what, when, where, how? You know, why?
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  Speaker 1: You got them questions. We know the when and where.
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  Speaker 3: But the why, how, all them other questions, we need
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  Speaker 3: to answer to them too.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the next part of the journey. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think for a lot of people, the
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  Speaker 2: conversation around this sentence and it's 40 years of life,
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  Speaker 2: it's a period at the end of it for them.
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  Speaker 2: But for you, you're saying... there's still a lot of
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  Speaker 2: unanswered questions. So legally, you guys are still wanting to
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  Speaker 2: move forward with other trials and other cases. Because I
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  Speaker 2: know that police have had such a hard time getting
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  Speaker 2: any witnesses and evidence and all these things they've said.
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  Speaker 2: So how do you even start to go back and
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  Speaker 2: answer some of those questions for yourself?
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  Speaker 3: Well, a certain amount of it is public information. Court TV,
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  Speaker 3: law and crime, everybody's seen that part of it. And
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  Speaker 3: I know just like myself, I have other questions. And
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  Speaker 3: why did this happen? Because what it looked like from
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  Speaker 3: the trial was that money was the motivation. Money was
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  Speaker 3: the motivation. That has to be followed up on. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: for Pete's sake, the very weapon that dude claimed he
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  Speaker 3: was using, he got from Zip.
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  Speaker 1: You know, who is known to be Puppy's godfather. Sean's godfather.
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  Speaker 1: So we're going to see.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to see.
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  Speaker 2: When those allegations came back up that, you know, Diddy
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  Speaker 2: may have allegedly been involved and or not or whatever in,
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  Speaker 2: in court, did any of the family, Diddy himself, did
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  Speaker 2: anybody reach out to you guys just as, you know,
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  Speaker 2: want to, cause I saw statements be put out in
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  Speaker 2: the media when that happened from his team, clarifying that
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  Speaker 2: that wasn't something that they're saying he had anything to
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  Speaker 2: do with, but did anybody reach out to you guys
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  Speaker 2: personally and say, Hey, was there a, that would be a.
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  Speaker 3: No, uh, You know, we're going to see because niggas
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  Speaker 3: be lying. Plenty of niggas be lying. People be lying.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they got their shit off. Niggas did what
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  Speaker 3: they wanted to do. And they're going to lie to
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  Speaker 3: protect themselves. That's what's been happening for the last 30 years.
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  Speaker 3: But God don't like ugly.
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  Speaker 1: You dig? So, you know, people being exposed. They're getting
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  Speaker 1: a little sunlight on them, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Probably getting a little sunlight on the case, which is
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  Speaker 3: exposing a lot of, you know, culprits.
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  Speaker 2: When you heard, like, certain testimonies, like, there was the
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  Speaker 2: police officer who says that he was in the ambulance
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  Speaker 2: with Tupac and was trying to, like, question him, and
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  Speaker 2: Tupac was, like, still responsive to him, but was like, no,
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  Speaker 2: we got it. We'll take care of it ourselves. You know,
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  Speaker 2: for a lot of people, that was the first time
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  Speaker 2: they heard that story and that fact whatsoever about him
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  Speaker 2: still being responsive. And, you know, leading up to the hospital,
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  Speaker 2: what were those for you guys personally? And you can
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  Speaker 2: share as much as you want or not share as
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  Speaker 2: much as you want. What were those days like leading
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  Speaker 2: up to, you know, his actual passing where he was
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  Speaker 2: somewhat responsive enough to be able to have certain conversations?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was a difficult week. Uh, everybody
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  Speaker 3: came out to Las Vegas and, uh, hoping to get
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  Speaker 3: some of those answers.
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  Speaker 1: But when I finally got to see.
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  Speaker 3: Him, he had pipes all, you know, down his, in
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  Speaker 3: his mouth, down his throat, taped around. Cause he had,
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  Speaker 3: you know, got shot in the lungs. So breathing was
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  Speaker 3: an issue. So I couldn't really talk to him. Yeah. Um,
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  Speaker 3: he was clearly trying to tell me something, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: Pac was always full of information. So I just told him,
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  Speaker 3: heal up and get up out of here, man. You know,
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  Speaker 3: we'll talk about this shit when you get up out
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  Speaker 3: of here. First things first. And so I never got
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  Speaker 3: to actually communicate in that way.
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  Speaker 2: Is there anything that you didn't get to say in
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  Speaker 2: the courtroom that wasn't brought out from any of the
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  Speaker 2: witnesses or by any of the attorneys that you want
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  Speaker 2: to say now, or you really want people to understand
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  Speaker 2: from this trial?
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I, a.
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  Speaker 3: Lot of, they purpose, the prosecution purposely kept it very narrow.
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  Speaker 3: They kept the scope very narrow on, so they could
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  Speaker 3: have an actual case that they could win. You know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean? That was one of the first things
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  Speaker 3: they told us was that, Um, um, this is the
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  Speaker 3: only one we're going after. We're only going after him.
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  Speaker 3: We only have evidence on, on him, enough evidence on him. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: and I said, well, that sucks because it was clearly,
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  Speaker 3: it was clearly more than him. Uh, it was clearly
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  Speaker 3: more than the individuals in the car. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: me for one, they had Reggie Wright up there testifying,
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  Speaker 3: but me personally, I want to know why there was
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  Speaker 3: such a massive security failure. There was a massive security
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  Speaker 3: failure at the biggest rap label in the world on
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  Speaker 3: their principal artist, the biggest artist in the world. Why
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  Speaker 3: was that such a massive security failure on that night.
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  Speaker 1: After Pop had a fight.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: That's just one of the many questions like you're talking
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  Speaker 3: about that needs to be answered and we're going to.
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  Speaker 2: Try to get answers. Have you ever asked that question
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  Speaker 2: to Shub directly?
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  Speaker 1: Nah, dude don't like me.
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  Speaker 3: We don't jive. So, no.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to find out on my own.
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  Speaker 2: I got you. I got you. Unless, I mean, removing
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  Speaker 2: yourself from the courtroom, you know, you've been dealing with
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  Speaker 2: this 30 plus years, you know, way, way deeper than
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  Speaker 2: any of us can ever imagine mentally. Like how, what
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  Speaker 2: have you been telling yourself every day for the last
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  Speaker 2: 30 years, trying to put the pieces to the puzzle
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  Speaker 2: together to stay motivated, but also to just stay okay.
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  Speaker 2: And it's, they saying, um, with all these unanswered questions.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, Hmm.
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  Speaker 3: Mental toughness, I guess. You know, I was in the military,
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  Speaker 3: so I know a bit of that. I knew I
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  Speaker 3: would have to develop a thick skin to keep going
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  Speaker 3: over this situation to get some resolution. You know, it
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  Speaker 3: ain't going to be possible if I can't keep it together.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: If I keep breaking down every five minutes, we ain't
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  Speaker 3: never going to get the answers we seek. Um, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the Pac fans behind me, uh, all over the world. Um,
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  Speaker 3: now that the case is back in forefront, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they really, you know, with 30 years worth of new information,
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  Speaker 3: they really on my side, our side. So, um, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep pushing. I'm gonna keep pushing, uh, long.
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  Speaker 1: And hard as I can.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate you. I do. And, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: hope y'all get all the answers in the world. You
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  Speaker 2: guys deserve it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am. Thank you. God is good, grateful, blessed.
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  Speaker 3: Thank everybody out there on your show for the support
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  Speaker 3: to the fam.
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  Speaker 1: We feel it. God bless y'all. And keep on praying.
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  Speaker 1: Stay tuned.
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  Speaker 2: Stay true to yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Keep your popcorn. Get your popcorn. There's more to come.
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  Speaker 2: Well, keep us posted. Yes, ma'am. All righty. Thank you
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  Speaker 2: guys for tuning in. I tell y'all every single episode,
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  Speaker 2: my lowriders, y'all could be anywhere with any old body,
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