Latest / The Breakfast Club / Fat Joe Talks Nike Collab, Almost Retiring From Hip Hop, Terror Squad Legacy + More
Transcript
- 0:00Speaker 1: So, Joe, you got these Air Force ones that you
- 0:02Speaker 1: dropped off, So tell us about what you're doing with Nike.
- 0:06Speaker 2: You know what's crazy is the craziest part of the
- 0:10Speaker 2: story is so you see, not comparing myself in no way,
- 0:13Speaker 2: shape or form, but you see how Malcolm X was killed,
- 0:17Speaker 2: then they made schools after he died.
- 0:20Speaker 3: Martin Luther King, you know he was killed. Now we
- 0:23Speaker 3: got a Martin Luther King boulevard, Joe Louis.
- 0:27Speaker 2: You know, they stressed him to death and then they
- 0:29Speaker 2: made highways after him. Well, the guy who actually designed
- 0:33Speaker 2: this sneaker from me got fired for designing the sneaker
- 0:36Speaker 2: back in the day at nineteen oh yeah, and twenty
- 0:39Speaker 2: years later were celebrating the Air Force one.
- 0:42Speaker 3: Wow, you know what I'm saying. That the guy designed
- 0:45Speaker 3: and he got fired.
- 0:46Speaker 2: It's just ironic how we celebrate things years later.
- 0:50Speaker 4: I remember you on MTV cribs showing the TS.
- 0:55Speaker 3: Air Force long time ago. I thought that was official,
- 0:57Speaker 3: back I was twenty year it was.
- 0:59Speaker 2: But what happened was I had a guy who was
- 1:01Speaker 2: the designer of Nike making them for me without permission. Wow,
- 1:06Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So he gave me a
- 1:08Speaker 2: couple of color waves and all that, and so actually, Virgil,
- 1:12Speaker 2: right rest in peace, Virgil asked me to do a
- 1:15Speaker 2: Terror Squad Air Force one because he knew all about
- 1:18Speaker 2: the coaching and all that. And then he passed away
- 1:21Speaker 2: maybe three days later, but he had already told all
- 1:25Speaker 2: a Nike like, Yo, I'm doing the Fat Joe Terror
- 1:27Speaker 2: Squad air Force one, and so that like opened the
- 1:30Speaker 2: door to the discussion where they were like, y'all Virgil
- 1:33Speaker 2: was gonna rock with Joe, let's do it.
- 1:35Speaker 3: And so you know, I'm out here. I'm in the streets.
- 1:37Speaker 3: You know, I'm the Maleman. I'm not calm alone, but
- 1:40Speaker 3: I'm doing that especial delivery all over us.
- 1:42Speaker 1: And you got two colourwaves, right, and they both street.
- 1:44Speaker 3: We got we got it. This is gonna be the
- 1:46Speaker 3: New York release.
- 1:48Speaker 2: The black and white is globally, so you get it, Philippines,
- 1:51Speaker 2: Middle East, Africa, everywhere. And then we got a Friends
- 1:55Speaker 2: and Family which is a baby pink and great with
- 1:59Speaker 2: you guys on the list for that as well.
- 2:00Speaker 3: But I'm just trying to beat everybody to you know,
- 2:03Speaker 3: I'm us.
- 2:03Speaker 2: I don't feel right if I got something coming out
- 2:06Speaker 2: and I ain't on my ones and twos promoting I
- 2:08Speaker 2: got it.
- 2:09Speaker 3: You know, back in the days, we used to pull
- 2:11Speaker 3: up on Envy with the white label in the club.
- 2:13Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's what I'm doing. It's the same hustle. It's
- 2:17Speaker 2: just we're selling a different product.
- 2:19Speaker 1: What do you think about the sneaker coaching now? Of
- 2:21Speaker 1: course you own a couple of sneaker stores, but it's
- 2:23Speaker 1: a lot different. You know, back then it was to
- 2:25Speaker 1: you bought sneakers to get fly. Now you gotta kind
- 2:28Speaker 1: of be careful because people are buying sneakers to make money.
- 2:30Speaker 1: They're taking it from the kids that just want to
- 2:32Speaker 1: wear them and charging tripple and quadruple for the sneakers.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Nike won't like my answer, but I'm all about the entrepreneur.
- 2:40Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying that them kids stand online
- 2:42Speaker 2: and they buy a sneaker for a buck fifty and
- 2:44Speaker 2: they sell it for three hundred. That's done. They not
- 2:47Speaker 2: robbing nobody's mother. They're out there hustling, you.
- 2:50Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying. So they don't they don't like
- 2:53Speaker 3: my response.
- 2:54Speaker 2: You know, I reposted a couple of cats that already
- 2:57Speaker 2: had the sneakers.
- 2:58Speaker 3: They were like Joe. Those are infamous reasons.
- 3:00Speaker 5: Take it down.
- 3:02Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with the hype, you know what I'm saying.
- 3:04Speaker 3: It's like, I'm with the hype.
- 3:05Speaker 2: It's like if I put out a record in the
- 3:07Speaker 2: DJ in Memphis or Abay Bay is playing it and
- 3:10Speaker 2: I'm reposting. I'm like, you know, I don't know, I'm
- 3:12Speaker 2: just reposting the hype. They got the sneakst to they ear.
- 3:15Speaker 3: It's fly, you know. With me, I'm all about the entrepreneur.
- 3:19Speaker 2: You know, somebody making a couple of dollars who ain't
- 3:21Speaker 2: doing no harm than nobody.
- 3:22Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
- 3:23Speaker 2: But that's an independent, you know response, not a reflection
- 3:28Speaker 2: the Nike. They definitely ain't with that.
- 3:30Speaker 5: We were just talking before you walked in.
- 3:31Speaker 4: How you are clearly probably the best storyteller, not even
- 3:34Speaker 4: just in hip hop, just one of the best storytellers period.
- 3:36Speaker 4: Because he was listening to you on rap radar when
- 3:38Speaker 4: you were telling the story about being in your mom
- 3:40Speaker 4: house and it's just the attention to detail everything. I
- 3:43Speaker 4: was in my mother's house about three thinking about retirement,
- 3:45Speaker 4: shirt off topless.
- 3:49Speaker 2: You know, my mom's house is still a baby like,
- 3:51Speaker 2: so no real talk like my mom's house is the
- 3:54Speaker 2: only place I take my shirt off. Everything I'm in boxes,
- 3:58Speaker 2: my feet is on my mom, bubbing my feet.
- 4:01Speaker 3: I'm home, you know what I'm saying. I'm just home.
- 4:04Speaker 2: I don't know how to explain it any other way.
- 4:06Speaker 2: And so and Eminem called and was like, yo.
- 4:09Speaker 3: Bro, you can't retire. You know you can't.
- 4:11Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And that's like big for me.
- 4:14Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I look up to Eminem.
- 4:16Speaker 2: You know, he's one of the rap guards to me.
- 4:18Speaker 2: So you know, with him calling me trying to come here,
- 4:21Speaker 2: and I really gave this thought, Like he said, I
- 4:23Speaker 2: really started listening to all your music and I really
- 4:26Speaker 2: He's like, nah, Joe, you still got it now, you
- 4:29Speaker 2: can't leave. It was almost like a don't leave, like,
- 4:32Speaker 2: don't leave us, like he's still in the game.
- 4:36Speaker 3: That No.
- 4:36Speaker 2: That was right around the time I had dropped the
- 4:39Speaker 2: joint with with Dre, the album with with Dre from
- 4:44Speaker 2: Cooling Dre. And so he was like, yo, bro, you can't.
- 4:48Speaker 2: You know, you can't leave the game. You know you
- 4:51Speaker 2: got some legends up there.
- 4:54Speaker 3: I'm in that corner.
- 4:58Speaker 1: He's all Breakfast Club moments, a moment to the breakfast club.
- 5:01Speaker 1: So these are all things that happen on the breakfast club,
- 5:04Speaker 1: the same outfits, the same facial less.
- 5:06Speaker 5: I like.
- 5:09Speaker 4: You, Big Daddy, Kmee, DMX, Charlie Murphy, Nori, Jennifer Lewis, Ray,
- 5:15Speaker 4: Will Smith.
- 5:15Speaker 2: Mat something happened to think that I have some legendary
- 5:19Speaker 2: not shock value, not.
- 5:21Speaker 3: Birdman, respect on my name, not dumb. But I think
- 5:25Speaker 3: I've come up in here.
- 5:26Speaker 2: We've done had some legendary conversations, some behind the scenes,
- 5:30Speaker 2: something on the mic, something on the mic, some behind
- 5:33Speaker 2: the scenes, but just on the mic. I tell you
- 5:35Speaker 2: that story about what I told the guy he needs
- 5:37Speaker 2: ninety nine more guys in jail.
- 5:38Speaker 3: That was a legendary story.
- 5:40Speaker 5: Guy. People got to read your book.
- 5:41Speaker 4: If you think Joe's a great storyteller, read his book,
- 5:45Speaker 4: The Book of the Book of the Book of Jose.
- 5:48Speaker 5: Jose criminally underrated very much. So you read it and
- 5:53Speaker 5: you're like, this couldn't have happened. But then you're like,
- 5:56Speaker 5: this is Joe.
- 5:57Speaker 3: Probably you know what happened. I tell first of all,
- 6:00Speaker 3: I don't lie.
- 6:01Speaker 2: That's just just men shouldn't lie unless you're a lawyer.
- 6:05Speaker 2: Because one time I was in the room and they
- 6:07Speaker 2: was just lying each other. I wanted to die.
- 6:09Speaker 3: I tried to get out of there. It was negotia,
- 6:12Speaker 3: You're right, I lied.
- 6:13Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, like we're playing these guys to lie to
- 6:15Speaker 2: each other, right, And so thank you my brother.
- 6:20Speaker 3: It's all you know.
- 6:22Speaker 2: I don't lie, So I never want to have somebody
- 6:25Speaker 2: catch me in the line and be like, yo, this
- 6:27Speaker 2: guy's line. So if I say something, I know that
- 6:31Speaker 2: eventually somebody would back it up. Somebody will come out
- 6:34Speaker 2: of nowhere, you know what I'm saying. The recent one,
- 6:36Speaker 2: I'm rapped made out, I said, but with no disrespect,
- 6:39Speaker 2: because you know I love Drake six god, you know,
- 6:43Speaker 2: most consistent. But I told you I called me like
- 6:47Speaker 2: three times trying to get on all the way remix, right,
- 6:51Speaker 2: But being the whole story I had with jay Z,
- 6:54Speaker 2: I wanted it to just be me and jay Z
- 6:56Speaker 2: because you know, I never thought in a hip hop
- 7:00Speaker 2: I never thought Fat Joe and jay Z would do
- 7:02Speaker 2: a song be myself, right, So I was like, Yo,
- 7:05Speaker 2: no thanks, but you know I love you brother.
- 7:06Speaker 3: Maybe some other time, please call me now, Drake.
- 7:10Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, But then I said some
- 7:14Speaker 2: normal person to be like, yo, he sounds crazy this
- 7:17Speaker 2: and this and that.
- 7:17Speaker 3: But I'm sure.
- 7:18Speaker 2: Sooner or later, Drake's gonna confirm the story and be like, yo,
- 7:22Speaker 2: you know I called him.
- 7:23Speaker 3: You know, you know I want it. And that's it.
- 7:25Speaker 3: All the stories are confirmed. But in the in the book, man.
- 7:28Speaker 2: That's why I had to write the book, because the
- 7:30Speaker 2: book was so much transparency.
- 7:31Speaker 3: I didn't want to leave nothing out.
- 7:33Speaker 5: The stories before rap the better people.
- 7:36Speaker 2: To really understand. Ah, there's a lot of rap stories
- 7:40Speaker 2: never told. For Fat Joe, that's a whole different, you know,
- 7:46Speaker 2: But the stories before rapped, Like when the Ecuadorian kid
- 7:49Speaker 2: was trying to kill me, he said eight times in
- 7:52Speaker 2: two days, like he was.
- 7:53Speaker 5: He was letting it go like unbelievable.
- 7:55Speaker 3: We know he was unbelievable. He was like he was
- 7:58Speaker 3: like God, John Wick.
- 8:00Speaker 2: From Mark for Death, the guy from Mark for Death,
- 8:03Speaker 2: like rich Richie, remember Richie kept popping up Stevenson call
- 8:07Speaker 2: like this guy was trying to finish.
- 8:09Speaker 3: For no reason.
- 8:10Speaker 5: So he shot the car up and he was in
- 8:11Speaker 5: the car and everybody thought.
- 8:14Speaker 2: I heard the screams like if I was dead, the
- 8:16Speaker 2: whole building.
- 8:17Speaker 3: Yo. Yeah, and we like yo, what's up?
- 8:21Speaker 2: And you know, we try to get him, we couldn't
- 8:23Speaker 2: get him. Like this guy he was, he was really,
- 8:26Speaker 2: he was really something else.
- 8:28Speaker 3: Man.
- 8:29Speaker 1: I don't tell too many because you want people to
- 8:30Speaker 1: go on. You gotta.
- 8:32Speaker 2: But you know we're doing the series with the Terrero brothers,
- 8:35Speaker 2: Judy Jesse and Kenya. Kenya Barris is actually writing the
- 8:40Speaker 2: series himself. So that's an honor, you know what I'm saying.
- 8:45Speaker 2: So we excited about it. But you know, we got
- 8:46Speaker 2: this little strike or whatever the case may be. So
- 8:50Speaker 2: I'm opening and I do, trust me, I do sympathize
- 8:54Speaker 2: with everybody striking because you know, some of these checks
- 8:57Speaker 2: come through for two dollars, Like I be like Joe
- 9:00Speaker 2: the time you hosted Wendy Williams two dollars and forty
- 9:04Speaker 2: three seconds. I'm like, yo, I would be homeless trying
- 9:07Speaker 2: to live on a like a royalty check, a royalty
- 9:10Speaker 2: check from from TV or movie. No, it's incredible, be
- 9:15Speaker 2: like Yo, sag and I go rush. I opened the
- 9:18Speaker 2: check eight dollars nineteen.
- 9:20Speaker 3: I said, Yo, bro, I can't buy sandwich with this
- 9:22Speaker 3: thing right here?
- 9:24Speaker 5: Did that affect your talk show? And you have to
- 9:25Speaker 5: talk show with Star.
- 9:26Speaker 2: Yeah, but not really. We still we all in. We
- 9:29Speaker 2: shot the first one.
- 9:34Speaker 3: It's all go. But yes, the strike effects, it's affecting everything.
- 9:39Speaker 5: You got my girl over there, Bianca beyond everybody.
- 9:42Speaker 3: You know.
- 9:42Speaker 2: Listen, Stars is gonna be amazing. It's gonna be a
- 9:45Speaker 2: list It's gonna be the interviews you never thought you
- 9:48Speaker 2: could get, you know, on top of the game. And
- 9:51Speaker 2: you know the thing with me is, you know, coming
- 9:54Speaker 2: from like artists to artists, you know they could let
- 9:56Speaker 2: their guard down and know I ain't trying to jam
- 9:58Speaker 2: a mark.
- 9:59Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. They could be like we
- 10:01Speaker 3: could talk about you know.
- 10:02Speaker 2: I always say, you know, when we was doing COVID,
- 10:05Speaker 2: I start turning on the I g you both was
- 10:07Speaker 2: my guests. So I interviewed Bobby Brown. Now there's so
- 10:11Speaker 2: much stuff you could talk about Bobby Brown, but all
- 10:14Speaker 2: I kept it was music. You know, this and this
- 10:16Speaker 2: and that. And so when an artisty oh, he ain't
- 10:19Speaker 2: trying to jam me up. He threw me a gym.
- 10:22Speaker 2: He was like, yo, you know I taught Michael Jackson
- 10:24Speaker 2: how to moonwalk. You know, I wanted to slam the
- 10:27Speaker 2: phone against the wall like I never heard he said
- 10:29Speaker 2: he taught Michael Jackson how to move.
- 10:33Speaker 3: You ever had an interview with somebody said something, you
- 10:35Speaker 3: just want to end it right there. It's off like,
- 10:38Speaker 3: you know, we got it like this.
- 10:39Speaker 5: I got that from the Bronx. I thought it was
- 10:40Speaker 5: break dances in the Bronx. I thought it was.
- 10:42Speaker 2: No no, and then and so what happened is I
- 10:46Speaker 2: called or remember members of New Edition and they all
- 10:51Speaker 2: didn't comment on it. They was like, yo, no comment.
- 10:55Speaker 2: So I kind of heard that it was the guy
- 10:58Speaker 2: from Shallamar taught Michael how the Moon.
- 11:01Speaker 5: That's what they said.
- 11:02Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they said the.
- 11:03Speaker 2: Guy from Shallamar taught him. But but when Bobby Brown
- 11:06Speaker 2: told me that, I was like, oh my god, like
- 11:09Speaker 2: you taught Michael.
- 11:10Speaker 5: How the Moon? Was still a story.
- 11:12Speaker 2: I know he means it though he Bobby Brown was
- 11:17Speaker 2: the man, So you gotta understand, right, it's a little Oozy, right,
- 11:21Speaker 2: Little ozis my man. I love him, Littlezy the little
- 11:24Speaker 2: dance he dude. You know it's another young kid from
- 11:26Speaker 2: Philly that taught him to dance. There's a young kid
- 11:30Speaker 2: from Philly that raps that taught him to dance. Ouzie
- 11:33Speaker 2: is such a star. He made it more famous It's
- 11:36Speaker 2: almost like Luie De was going, oh, and then be
- 11:39Speaker 2: honestly came and said, I took that to the you
- 11:44Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
- 11:46Speaker 5: Le lean back from then?
- 11:48Speaker 3: Well, I learned lean back from Uh.
- 11:50Speaker 2: I studied Missy how she did songs around that time,
- 11:53Speaker 2: and really the whole reggae movement. It was like single
- 11:56Speaker 2: to play talking with all that, right.
- 12:01Speaker 3: The Elephant man, and and so I was like, yo, I.
- 12:04Speaker 2: Gotta do like the like the Jamaicans. Man, they making
- 12:07Speaker 2: these songs that everybody's doing the dance too. So that
- 12:10Speaker 2: was really the influence of lean back all in the
- 12:13Speaker 2: in the Gumboat.
- 12:14Speaker 3: I gotta ask.
- 12:15Speaker 1: So you know, of course we're still celebrating fifty years
- 12:17Speaker 1: of hip hop. Just because it was the day doesn't
- 12:19Speaker 1: mean we stopped celebrating. But you got a chance to
- 12:21Speaker 1: perform a Yankee Stadium. Talk about talk about Joey Krack
- 12:27Speaker 1: back in the Bronx at Yankee Stadium.
- 12:30Speaker 3: Man, it was just legendary.
- 12:31Speaker 4: You know.
- 12:31Speaker 2: I grew up five minutes from Yankee Stadium. I drove
- 12:34Speaker 2: there from the projects. So I went to my old apartment,
- 12:38Speaker 2: got dressed, dumped in the drop, drove to pass everybody
- 12:44Speaker 2: to k y'all, Miami trap, all the guys pistol drove.
- 12:49Speaker 3: In the stadium.
- 12:49Speaker 2: And then the next time the camera sees me, I'm
- 12:51Speaker 2: walking on stage, live and direct.
- 12:53Speaker 3: I had crazy legs and gravity. Who's my cousin?
- 12:58Speaker 2: They both break dances, so you know, they came out
- 13:00Speaker 2: there the biggest Puerto Rican flag you ever seen in
- 13:03Speaker 2: your life.
- 13:04Speaker 3: Like they was out there like then they got super busy.
- 13:08Speaker 2: So I'm walking on stage. You know, I started letting
- 13:11Speaker 2: it go a little my lifestyle. I let go to
- 13:13Speaker 2: New York.
- 13:14Speaker 3: Hundred guns and hundred. But I was possessed, you, I
- 13:16Speaker 3: was possessed. I was.
- 13:18Speaker 2: I was in that back room. I wasn't even talking
- 13:20Speaker 2: and over I had like five security. I don't have
- 13:23Speaker 2: security now, I just don't have security, but I had five,
- 13:28Speaker 2: like so nobody could offer me right and I had
- 13:30Speaker 2: to sneak in the stadium because they had like four
- 13:32Speaker 2: hundred and fifty guys. They were Joe. I mean, I
- 13:36Speaker 2: guess I went to Junior High with all. I didn't
- 13:38Speaker 2: even know who. The phone was going off too much,
- 13:41Speaker 2: so I couldn't answer the phone. But it was so
- 13:44Speaker 2: special to me because I knew it was the fiftieth anniversary.
- 13:47Speaker 2: You had run DMC, you had all the legends Hollywood
- 13:52Speaker 2: that every whoever you could name me an ice Cube,
- 13:54Speaker 2: Snoop this, Nahs this. It was just so it's not competition,
- 13:59Speaker 2: but it's friendly competition. And so I didn't want to
- 14:02Speaker 2: you know, Snoop Dog ain't letting me go to l
- 14:04Speaker 2: A and steal that thing, you know what I mean.
- 14:07Speaker 2: So I'm in the Bronx, so I knew yo, I
- 14:10Speaker 2: got to put it down for the Bronx, the rock Steady,
- 14:12Speaker 2: the create the rock Steady crew.
- 14:16Speaker 3: Remy came out with me. Uh, Tom Sunshine was with me.
- 14:19Speaker 2: Then we get We brought out a shanty looking beautiful
- 14:23Speaker 2: as ever.
- 14:24Speaker 3: She ripped that down. Crazy.
- 14:25Speaker 2: Then we went into Peter Guns with the with the
- 14:28Speaker 2: with the Bronx National and then in the middle of
- 14:33Speaker 2: the if it wasn't for the bron then it goes
- 14:36Speaker 2: standing at that.
- 14:38Speaker 3: And then the.
- 14:38Speaker 2: Big bully comes out, the teacher my idol carevas once
- 14:43Speaker 2: on the South Bronx.
- 14:44Speaker 3: Then he does the bridge the bridges over the bridges
- 14:48Speaker 3: was crazy.
- 14:48Speaker 2: Miss I had just kissed rock Shan Chante on the
- 14:52Speaker 2: way to the stage. I was just talking to Craigy
- 14:55Speaker 2: g mc shan was the probably the one guy who
- 14:58Speaker 2: got in my room. I was talking to to him
- 15:00Speaker 2: for like an hour. So it was just a celebration
- 15:03Speaker 2: of hip hop, right, you know, And it was nothing
- 15:05Speaker 2: like it. You know, I pull up young young, young
- 15:08Speaker 2: dudes and girls. They had their own little speaker. It
- 15:11Speaker 2: was almost like when you watch one of the movies
- 15:13Speaker 2: like Malcolm X. With the movie Malcolm X, Spike Lee
- 15:16Speaker 2: did the al Shoppings on the box.
- 15:18Speaker 3: Preaching the usc That's how I was with hip hop.
- 15:21Speaker 2: Outside the stadium, they was all freestyling and then ten
- 15:26Speaker 2: Steps there was bands, queens, shook ones, ten Steps there
- 15:30Speaker 2: was cops breakdancing like it was out of this world.
- 15:33Speaker 2: And it wasn't just New York. It was like so
- 15:36Speaker 2: I went back and I watched all the interviews they did,
- 15:39Speaker 2: you know, like news reporters, and they was like, I'm
- 15:41Speaker 2: from Oklahoma. I drove up Yo, I'm from the California.
- 15:46Speaker 2: Guys with the Jerry Carrolls, they was in Yankee Stadium,
- 15:50Speaker 2: not performing. They came whoever the guys is with them.
- 15:54Speaker 2: They was all around. They was in the Bronx like
- 15:57Speaker 2: the whole world of hip hops I'm over there at
- 16:00Speaker 2: the Yankee Stadium, So there was an honor to see
- 16:03Speaker 2: some of the legends get acknowledge. Of course, you can't
- 16:06Speaker 2: make everybody happy, you know, there's just too many rappers,
- 16:09Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But we put it down
- 16:11Speaker 2: for rap, you know, legendary.
- 16:12Speaker 4: When you think about tarror squad, right and what terror
- 16:15Speaker 4: squad was in the street and then you see it
- 16:17Speaker 4: on the sneaker, what did that do to you?
- 16:19Speaker 3: You even can't even comprehend.
- 16:21Speaker 2: You know, I just work hard. You know, I got
- 16:23Speaker 2: up early. My wife is like, Yo, what's up. I said, Man,
- 16:27Speaker 2: we're just so blessed, and it was just like, you know,
- 16:29Speaker 2: we you know what we you know, I want a shot.
- 16:33Speaker 2: I went to my projects and I love you, Foss President,
- 16:37Speaker 2: you know, I always represent you. But I went to
- 16:40Speaker 2: my projects. It's been a while. I went to my
- 16:43Speaker 2: old project apartment. You know, I was touching the walls
- 16:47Speaker 2: like this one wall, one wall.
- 16:50Speaker 3: That's when you little, you think it's big.
- 16:53Speaker 2: You got four kids, uncles, you know, every uncle to
- 16:57Speaker 2: get thrown out his house, come to your house.
- 16:59Speaker 3: You know, we're walking on people. It's in the book
- 17:02Speaker 3: let my father's Cuban.
- 17:03Speaker 2: My father went to the Madiella to Cuba to go
- 17:07Speaker 2: get my brothers and sisters. They gave him two sisters
- 17:09Speaker 2: lords in mercy. They gave him thirty cubans. All those
- 17:13Speaker 2: Cubans came and the boat saying because it was a
- 17:16Speaker 2: bullshit boat, we ain't had no money.
- 17:18Speaker 3: All the Cubans came to my house.
- 17:20Speaker 2: When I was going to school, I was stepping on
- 17:23Speaker 2: Cubans like going to school in the morning, and that's
- 17:26Speaker 2: how small the crib was. When you go home now
- 17:29Speaker 2: and you see these.
- 17:30Speaker 3: Big ass ceilings and marble and stuff, you can't believe this.
- 17:34Speaker 2: So I'm looking at the terroce cars, sneaker, everything I
- 17:37Speaker 2: did prior to rap, and I'm not proud of what's.
- 17:41Speaker 3: To get sneakers.
- 17:43Speaker 2: It was to get sneakers, not to have your own sneaker.
- 17:49Speaker 2: I'm telling you the truth. I haven't even allowed I
- 17:51Speaker 2: don't know if it's a form of depression or something.
- 17:55Speaker 2: I don't I haven't you know how when you got
- 17:57Speaker 2: something that you just keep away. I have allowed myself
- 18:00Speaker 2: to really look at the sneaking by myself, in the room,
- 18:03Speaker 2: by myself, and be like you probably cried, Yeah, I.
- 18:06Speaker 3: Probably cried, I'm just like, yo, I'm sneaker. You know
- 18:10Speaker 3: what I'm saying with terror squad and with no disrespect.
- 18:15Speaker 2: It ain't like, you know, it ain't like it's Nike,
- 18:20Speaker 2: it's you know, it's an air Force one.
- 18:23Speaker 3: It's up chowns right.
- 18:24Speaker 2: It ain't a collab with a you know, up and
- 18:26Speaker 2: coming brand or something like that.
- 18:29Speaker 3: It's like, yo, it's the one. You know what I'm saying.
- 18:32Speaker 1: I love to see how far Joe has come as
- 18:35Speaker 1: a person, just how how you've come because all those
- 18:38Speaker 1: stories in the book, you know, we've either seen or
- 18:42Speaker 1: we've ran from, or we've avoided or dodged.
- 18:45Speaker 5: So the fact I read the book, I I had
- 18:47Speaker 5: to ask.
- 18:47Speaker 4: I wanted to ask him and Richard million questions like
- 18:50Speaker 4: how far removed tole them dispect, But he said there
- 18:57Speaker 4: will be no disrespect.
- 18:59Speaker 1: I remember I remember looking out my window and seeing
- 19:02Speaker 1: Fat Joe walking up my block Murdock Avenue, and me
- 19:05Speaker 1: calling Clue like what did you do?
- 19:07Speaker 3: He was like, what do you mean?
- 19:08Speaker 1: I'm like, Fat Joe is walking up the block. He's
- 19:10Speaker 1: probably coming to hurt you and kill you. He's like, no,
- 19:12Speaker 1: he's just dropping off a record. I'm like, well, I'm
- 19:14Speaker 1: staying in the house. I just I just remember those stories.
- 19:17Speaker 1: So to see you in fifty performing in New York
- 19:21Speaker 1: together is.
- 19:22Speaker 3: I got one better for you.
- 19:23Speaker 2: They made documentaries about my brother, Pistol p Pistol p
- 19:27Speaker 2: Kar and his documentaries. Like he's like he predicate from
- 19:34Speaker 2: Rykers Island. You know, he started no disrespect, all that
- 19:37Speaker 2: cutting and all that in Reykers Island and now he's
- 19:40Speaker 2: going back mentoring the youth from Rykers Island, telling them
- 19:44Speaker 2: a chill, you know, vibing with them, you know, keeping
- 19:47Speaker 2: it real with them and telling them, yo, you got
- 19:49Speaker 2: to get up out of here. He's eveniller than Fat Joe.
- 19:52Speaker 2: Like it's unbelievable. When I'm sitting with him yesterday, we
- 19:55Speaker 2: was chilling and all he was telling me is about
- 19:57Speaker 2: how he's talking to the youth, how he's.
- 20:00Speaker 3: Trying to change their lives. Yo, jonahs crazy.
- 20:02Speaker 2: I'm looking at Pistol Pete like this, I'm like, yo,
- 20:05Speaker 2: this is out of control.
- 20:07Speaker 5: Was he one of the ones break dancing withche He.
- 20:10Speaker 2: Was just one of those, was the West Side story.
- 20:19Speaker 2: This guy he ain't lying man, you know, but we
- 20:23Speaker 2: come a long way and we really really want to
- 20:26Speaker 2: help the community. That's pretty much what it's all about,
- 20:29Speaker 2: you know, because at the end of the day, shout
- 20:30Speaker 2: out to my stylists and one of my best friends ever,
- 20:33Speaker 2: Terrell torell Is, And he told me one day, one day,
- 20:36Speaker 2: we in Turks and Kekos and we in the middle
- 20:39Speaker 2: of you know that water is different and we both
- 20:42Speaker 2: drinking and I said, man, I grew up with some
- 20:44Speaker 2: bad guys. He turned around, he said, they weren't that bad.
- 20:48Speaker 2: I said, what you mean? He said, they didn't kill
- 20:50Speaker 2: you in the lobby on the alley. Let you live.
- 20:55Speaker 2: Changed my whole life there. I start thinking about my
- 20:58Speaker 2: hood and I said, damn, they were bad, but they
- 21:01Speaker 2: really could have did me bad. You know how many
- 21:03Speaker 2: brothers died out there. You know what I'm saying, girls too.
- 21:07Speaker 2: It was like, you know, they never told on me.
- 21:10Speaker 2: You know, nobody ever told on.
- 21:11Speaker 3: Me out there.
- 21:12Speaker 2: They just kept them one hundred with me. So that's
- 21:14Speaker 2: why we constantly think about them. Every time we can
- 21:17Speaker 2: help them, every time we could do something for the community, we.
- 21:20Speaker 3: Always did, you know. You know, just the other day,
- 21:23Speaker 3: me and you was walking around.
- 21:25Speaker 2: You want jay Z to get get the casino from
- 21:29Speaker 2: time squaes. It's time that a brother of color. You
- 21:33Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. We've been gambling. If you go
- 21:35Speaker 2: to any casino in America, there's nothing but black and
- 21:39Speaker 2: Spanish people in there, gambling every day. Finally we got
- 21:42Speaker 2: an opportunity to make the flat because he told me, yo,
- 21:45Speaker 2: we're gonna kill Dubai like this casino's gonna be so flat.
- 21:49Speaker 2: And so, you know, so I walked around the neighborhood
- 21:53Speaker 2: to see how they could benefit from the casino and
- 21:56Speaker 2: the community that does the plays and all the our
- 22:02Speaker 2: actors and all that they can have a home there
- 22:05Speaker 2: in there.
- 22:05Speaker 3: So it's a beautiful thing.
- 22:06Speaker 2: We just constantly just you know, trying to elevate to
- 22:10Speaker 2: another level. That's what we're doing. That's what you do.
- 22:12Speaker 2: That's what you do. That's what I do. That's what
- 22:14Speaker 2: we all do. We feel like we're blessed to live
- 22:16Speaker 2: another day. You know, I'm at the point now when
- 22:19Speaker 2: it's sunny outside, I wake up in and saying, oh
- 22:22Speaker 2: my God, I got another one.
- 22:24Speaker 3: God that's right, you know what I'm saying.
- 22:26Speaker 2: Thank God, God is the greatest. And so every day
- 22:29Speaker 2: I wake up now it's like, so you remember when
- 22:31Speaker 2: you was young. You know it's in the book.
- 22:33Speaker 3: You know.
- 22:33Speaker 2: I used to fight thirty forty dudes every day like
- 22:36Speaker 2: they was cutting me and.
- 22:38Speaker 3: I didn't care. I thought I was invincible. You know.
- 22:40Speaker 3: I got shot.
- 22:41Speaker 2: I checked out the hospital, you know, an hour later,
- 22:44Speaker 2: like take the tubes off, thinking I'm bionic. Now I'm like,
- 22:49Speaker 2: when to God, forbit, somebody sneeze on the plane, I'm.
- 22:55Speaker 3: Dunking, the mask is out, the hoodie. I'm like, yo,
- 22:58Speaker 3: I'm ank. You know, it's a different time.
- 23:02Speaker 2: So we appreciate God and we just constantly try to
- 23:04Speaker 2: get back to the community.
- 23:05Speaker 3: Well, we appreciate you, Joe.
- 23:07Speaker 1: We know we stole you for a couple of minutes
- 23:08Speaker 1: and we just came to we need to We needed
- 23:11Speaker 1: to holle let Joey Crack for.
- 23:12Speaker 2: We need the girl to send me the footage of
- 23:13Speaker 2: me giving you the Sneakers. We got it, we got it, came,
- 23:16Speaker 2: we got it.
- 23:16Speaker 5: We gonna get it.
- 23:17Speaker 3: To need that a son.
- 23:21Speaker 2: Before noon, before before you, guys, Joey Crack.
- 23:25Speaker 5: Get the Book of Jose Go get the Sneakers.
- 23:28Speaker 1: Squad Sneakers Joe from Mail, Breakfast, Clue co Morting
- 23:32Speaker 3: No No, No Politics,