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Wired To Hunt Podcast #233: Life Changing Experiences In CO & ND Disappointment · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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  Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This episode number two and thirty three,
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  Speaker 1: and today Dan and I are back together again and
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  Speaker 1: we're discussing his life changing elk hunt in Colorado in
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  Speaker 1: my downright disappointing trip to North Dakota. Before we kick
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  Speaker 1: the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by Onyx,
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  Speaker 1: and for the first time in a pretty decent while,
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  Speaker 1: we are here for just a good old fashioned Mark
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  Speaker 1: and Dan bs session. And it feels so good to
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  Speaker 1: say that no plans, no expectations. I love that because
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  Speaker 1: the thing for me is I'm always really good at
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  Speaker 1: under promising and then occasionally over delivering. So I think
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  Speaker 1: that's that's the game plan for today. So basically what
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  Speaker 1: you're telling everyone now is you're gonna tell them it's
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  Speaker 1: a good podcast, but we're gonna weigh under deliver. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like for this probably just jinks the whole thing, but whatever, dude,
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  Speaker 1: I've been in just a just a tizzy of chaos
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of days. So I literally ran this
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  Speaker 1: this is the truth. I literally ran into my house
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  Speaker 1: just before starting to record this. I ran over to
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  Speaker 1: my son and kissed him goodnight, hurried over into my
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  Speaker 1: office and took off my pants. Um, that's it, that's it, yea.
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  Speaker 1: And it was a prerequisite to take off my pants
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  Speaker 1: before recording this podcast. So you're sitting there and just
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  Speaker 1: your underwear. I am just in my underwear for you tonight.
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  Speaker 1: And I did that for a reason. Though's because I
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  Speaker 1: was worried that I might get poison ivy on me
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  Speaker 1: because I was just in the woods all day working
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  Speaker 1: on tree stands, and I just thought to myself, oh gosh,
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  Speaker 1: these are probably poison ivvy covered pants. And if you
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  Speaker 1: sit here recording a podcast, you're gonna be like touching
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  Speaker 1: your legs and not thinking about it and then touch
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  Speaker 1: your face. And I can't be having so panci lists
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  Speaker 1: for poison ivy precautions. Uh. So that's that's my state
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  Speaker 1: of mind right now. Um, it's a perfect, perfect way
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  Speaker 1: to start this podcast. Um, what I what I do?
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  Speaker 1: There are a few things that I did have on
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  Speaker 1: my list of things I want to make sure we
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  Speaker 1: did talk about. Really, just two that we have to cover. Um,
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  Speaker 1: number one, we gotta talk about your elk hunt. And
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  Speaker 1: number two, we got to talk about my North Dakota
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  Speaker 1: hunt with Further because last week's podcast, you were out
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  Speaker 1: hunting the mountains, but me, Spencer and Further did a
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  Speaker 1: quick one and I was just on my way from
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  Speaker 1: Montana to North Dakota. But no one knows what's happened since,
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  Speaker 1: so I gotta give him those updates. But that's that's
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  Speaker 1: all I got. So otherwise, it is an open highway
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  Speaker 1: for us to take people to whatever destination. We can
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  Speaker 1: think of this detour all the way. Yeah, do you
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  Speaker 1: have any detours you want to start with you or
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  Speaker 1: you just so pumped up on elk hunting mojo that
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  Speaker 1: you have to just let it out. Dude, I'm down
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  Speaker 1: for whatever. You know. Me, I don't. I don't like
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  Speaker 1: live by the normal rules. You know, every every rule
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  Speaker 1: I see is basically just kind of a guideline. It's
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily saying you have to do this. So Mark, Plus,
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm just the sidekick right on this podcast. I
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  Speaker 1: don't make any decisions. You're the one in charge, right.
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  Speaker 1: You live on the edge, Dan, you are the wild card.
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  Speaker 1: And then then I'll throw this one at you then,
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  Speaker 1: because probably nobody cares about anything else except for if
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  Speaker 1: they haven't been following along in other places. If you
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  Speaker 1: kill an elk? So did you kill an elk? No,
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  Speaker 1: we did not kill an elk. But shots were fired,
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  Speaker 1: shots plural, Well one shot, one shot. So here's here's
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  Speaker 1: what I'll do. Here's what I'm gonna say. I'll just
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  Speaker 1: kind of get into the story, right. I want to say,
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  Speaker 1: because I told you when we talked on the phone
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  Speaker 1: the other day, I purposely of waited hearing too many
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  Speaker 1: details because I wanted to hear it now, So I am,
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  Speaker 1: I am dying to hear. Just just give it to me,
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  Speaker 1: all right. So here's the deal. So I learned a
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  Speaker 1: lot on the on the elk hunt. UM that me
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  Speaker 1: and you went on right, like what to do and
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  Speaker 1: what not to do. UM. The first thing that we
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  Speaker 1: did when we got into Colorado. We got into Colorado
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  Speaker 1: like three in the morning. I went to my buddy
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  Speaker 1: Adam Par's house, crashed on his couch, got some sleep.
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  Speaker 1: So that means we woke up Saturday morning. I got
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  Speaker 1: there like three am Saturday morning. I went there or
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  Speaker 1: woke up, oh about nine or so, got some coffee, UM,
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  Speaker 1: went and got some groceries, had to make a couple
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  Speaker 1: of stops and run some errands in town. UM. And
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  Speaker 1: then we headed up to the mountains. Right Saturday. We
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  Speaker 1: got to the mount we got into camp, which a
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  Speaker 1: lot different than so we stayed on private property, but
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  Speaker 1: we hunted all public property. And it looked like you
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  Speaker 1: guys are staying in like a cabin or a house
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  Speaker 1: or something. A cabin. There was no electricity, There was
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  Speaker 1: no running water, so we had to bring all of
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  Speaker 1: our own water, UM, and all of our own food
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  Speaker 1: and ice and all that stuff. So we slept in
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  Speaker 1: a cabin. Me and Ryan slept in a cabin. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Was this was this specifically because they've heard about your
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  Speaker 1: tent to boccles and they just they really wanted to
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  Speaker 1: avoid that. Well, I'm just lucky, and I'll tell you
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  Speaker 1: as as we get into the story. It's crazy because dude,
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  Speaker 1: if instead of going back to a tent and sleeping
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  Speaker 1: on the ground, you get to go to at least
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  Speaker 1: a mattress in a sleeping bag. Uh, and you're in
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  Speaker 1: a in a enclosure, not necessarily a tent, it's a
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  Speaker 1: game changer as far as getting a good night's sleep.
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  Speaker 1: So um, so that's kind of one thing. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: for the for the for the over forty crowd, I
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  Speaker 1: guess ha ha ha ha. I'm sorry it was up there.
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  Speaker 1: You had to take it right, yeah, low hanging fruit,
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  Speaker 1: that's right. So anyway, um, I think the last time
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  Speaker 1: what just kicked my ass so bad when we went
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  Speaker 1: was dude, we got we we drove from Iowa to Idaho,
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  Speaker 1: got out of the truck and went straight up the
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  Speaker 1: mountain like we were only at the bottom of it
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  Speaker 1: at your truck for enough time to put our backpacks
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  Speaker 1: on thirty minutes to get dressed, throw them on and
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  Speaker 1: get going, get going. So what what I what we
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  Speaker 1: did this time was we didn't hunt Saturday at all.
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  Speaker 1: We got to the mountain, We got camp set up
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  Speaker 1: and I literally started drinking out of a gallon of
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  Speaker 1: water and I drank and drank and drank, and we
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  Speaker 1: got acclimated. The camp was at about the cabin was
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  Speaker 1: at about ten two yep. So we spent the entire
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  Speaker 1: rest of the evening, um, had a good meal, got
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  Speaker 1: to bed somewhat early, and uh, you know, hydrated and acclimated.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that that changed the game for the
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  Speaker 1: entire week because I wasn't suffering as bad as I
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  Speaker 1: was the last time we went. I mean I felt
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  Speaker 1: really really good. Yes it was exhausting, and yes it
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  Speaker 1: was tiring, and yes it was punishing, but it was
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  Speaker 1: not like defeating, if that makes now. Would you credit
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  Speaker 1: any of that to your change in physical preparation to
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  Speaker 1: for this one? Yeah, I did a lot of different things.
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  Speaker 1: Like I for what I did with you was I
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  Speaker 1: did a lot of like just your regular weightlifting routines
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  Speaker 1: with some cardio and like and when I mean a
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  Speaker 1: regular weightlifting routine. I mean, okay, you go to the
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  Speaker 1: squat rack and you do ten reps, and then you
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  Speaker 1: go and you do some leg extensions and maybe you
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  Speaker 1: do ten dead lifts. This I did like a hundred
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  Speaker 1: dead lifts and so but lighter weight or I did
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  Speaker 1: a of something. So I just wore the muscles out
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  Speaker 1: and then I did stare Masters. And one thing that
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  Speaker 1: I really think helped was my weighted pack hikes. Uh
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  Speaker 1: and this is for like the entire trip, right, but
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  Speaker 1: the weighted the weighted pack hikes. I mean because I
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  Speaker 1: talked to a lot of guys who went out west
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  Speaker 1: from flat lands like Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Iowa, and they're like,
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  Speaker 1: nothing can there's no exercise that can prepare you for
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  Speaker 1: what you're going to do. And the one guy was
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  Speaker 1: telling me, and the best exercise that I felt, you
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  Speaker 1: know it worked, was the weighted pack hikes. So I
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  Speaker 1: did a lot of um putting weight on a pack
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  Speaker 1: and hiking for like four miles that some of those
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  Speaker 1: took an hour and a half to maybe two hours,
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  Speaker 1: and just trying to exhaust the body basically was what
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to do. And I feel that the furst.
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  Speaker 1: I mean the first couple of days, man, I felt
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  Speaker 1: really good compared to you know, as the as the
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  Speaker 1: week went on, I felt, you know, my leg my
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  Speaker 1: energy was definitely draining. But we get it hard for
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  Speaker 1: six straight days. Yeah. Um, well that's good though. And
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  Speaker 1: when I was seeing what you're doing this summer with
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  Speaker 1: those hikes, you know, just like you said, nothing but
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  Speaker 1: hiking with a heavy pack can really replicate that. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And it's so important. It's not the glamour muscles and
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  Speaker 1: those you know, curls and stuff that are going to
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  Speaker 1: help you in the mountains. It's can you slog up
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  Speaker 1: a hill all day with a heavy load and just
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  Speaker 1: keep going and keep going? And I'm glad that helped out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely helped out. And I'll tell you what, I focus
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  Speaker 1: so much on my lower part of my body, like
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  Speaker 1: my legs and cardio that I hardly did any colonels
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  Speaker 1: or triceps or um the I did do. I did
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  Speaker 1: do shoulder press um and and a lot of rowing
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  Speaker 1: machine for the back, but you know, doing the bench press,
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  Speaker 1: the curls, the triceps, I hardly did any of that
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  Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, And now was your wife upset with
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  Speaker 1: your regiment this time, because it sounds like your glamour
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  Speaker 1: muscles just worn't up to part them this year for her.
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  Speaker 1: Is that part of the strategy to keep child number
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  Speaker 1: four from happening? No, no, no, no, child child number
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  Speaker 1: three keeps child number four from happening. I don't believe it.
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  Speaker 1: I won't believe it to like until I hear about
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  Speaker 1: the procedure. Man, Yeah, you're right. I need I need
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  Speaker 1: to just do it. I don't know why you haven't.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I live on the wild side. Mark, you
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  Speaker 1: live on the edge. You just your tiptoe right on
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  Speaker 1: the precipice of disaster a time. In order to have
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  Speaker 1: a baby, you have to have sex. And when three kids,
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  Speaker 1: it's like that bell curve just goes. Okay, I understand, now,
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  Speaker 1: we get it. Now we get it. I can tell
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  Speaker 1: we understand. Okay. So so no sex, lots of exercise,
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  Speaker 1: though you're you're feeling better at the beginning of this trip,
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  Speaker 1: continue with this story. So, so, dude, it was day
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  Speaker 1: one was out of a just out of like videos
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  Speaker 1: that I've seen and I'm not talking about elk running
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  Speaker 1: around everywhere. Because we got out of the camp and
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  Speaker 1: I got introduced to something called dead fall this trip
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  Speaker 1: and with high winds the Beetle Kill and dude, I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking about trees stacked on trees, stacked on trees, anything
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  Speaker 1: from knee high to chin high that you're having to
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  Speaker 1: climb over or under or around. And what if you're
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  Speaker 1: walking a straight line on the mountains, let's say should
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  Speaker 1: take about ten minutes to fifteen minutes. We're talking about
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  Speaker 1: forty five minutes of dead fall in a quarter mile
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  Speaker 1: and it's nasty. So you know. Then we dropped down
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  Speaker 1: to about nine five from Camp tend To. We dropped
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  Speaker 1: down over the course of about a half mile to
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  Speaker 1: a creek, walk another half mile up. We're back somewhere
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  Speaker 1: around ten to. Then we start getting out of the
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  Speaker 1: creek to these benches where all the elks, SI, aur
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  Speaker 1: and U. You know. The first setup we heard, we
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  Speaker 1: hear something. We're like, hey, let's set up here. We
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  Speaker 1: call this is day one. We call nothing happened. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: if I can time out. Did you guys are Adam right?
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  Speaker 1: Adam Adam? He he knew this area, right, So did
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  Speaker 1: you guys have like a game plan, like, hey, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna go to a place or was it. Heyward's gonna
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  Speaker 1: walk in this direction and see if we hear anything
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  Speaker 1: and stop every time we hear What was like, what
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  Speaker 1: was the game plan as you were doing this hike? Right?
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  Speaker 1: The game plan was, you know he's he pretty much
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  Speaker 1: told us the night before and he showed us on
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  Speaker 1: a map. Hey, we're looking for these these bench types.
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  Speaker 1: It's where there, you know, we come off a steep
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  Speaker 1: there's like a steep drop off on the mountain and
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  Speaker 1: it kind of flattens out and then it gets steep again.
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  Speaker 1: And these flatter areas are what the elk really seemed
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  Speaker 1: to congregate on. That's where they seem to bed throughout
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  Speaker 1: the day. That's their access routes to these meadows where
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  Speaker 1: they're going and eating grass. Um. So a lot of
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  Speaker 1: focusing looking at the topographic mac map and trying to
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  Speaker 1: find these benches where the elk we're at. So he'd
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  Speaker 1: been out there the past two years, three years, so
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  Speaker 1: he had a good idea of where where we're heading. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so you're heading towards these benches, you're getting there, you
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  Speaker 1: hear something, you set up? What are you doing? So
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  Speaker 1: we set up and uh, and Adams like, Okay, who
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  Speaker 1: who gets first shot. I look at Ryan, I say
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  Speaker 1: paper rock scissors for first shot. My buddy Ryan came
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  Speaker 1: with me. It's like, okay, one, two, three shoot, he wins. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so he gets first shot. So what he's doing is
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  Speaker 1: wherever we think the elk are gonna come. Then Ryan
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  Speaker 1: and then Adam is however far back behind him, kind
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  Speaker 1: of calling a combination of bugles and cal calls. And
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  Speaker 1: then I'm off on a flank. So if maybe he
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  Speaker 1: hits it, I get a secondary follow up shot, or
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  Speaker 1: if he misses, I get a secondary follow up shot,
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  Speaker 1: or you know, something along those lines. And you're just hearing,
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  Speaker 1: you're just hearing like movement, or you actually heard l
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  Speaker 1: bugling in your direction. You heard movement like cracking come
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  Speaker 1: like cracking going through the dead fall, right, didn't didn't
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  Speaker 1: hear any bugles. So nothing happens on the first try.
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  Speaker 1: And what we're doing is we're working our way up
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  Speaker 1: the mountain with the wind blowing in our face, the
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  Speaker 1: thermals coming downhill. And then what the goal is is
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  Speaker 1: by the time you work your way up, you're to
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  Speaker 1: a point where the thermal switch for the late morning,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and then you're coming down you maybe go
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  Speaker 1: find another meadow and then you work your way down. Right.
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  Speaker 1: So so we get up to this meadow set up.
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  Speaker 1: You know, nothing happens. Set up, nothing happens. And we
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  Speaker 1: heard and then finally, dude, I'm telling you it is
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  Speaker 1: a life changing event. And I'm not talking about what
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  Speaker 1: we heard in Colorado where we hear one bugle, um
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  Speaker 1: probably oh yeah, we didn't heard a crap anile one
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  Speaker 1: mile away. We heard one bugle. Was I was that
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  Speaker 1: when I was telling you what it could be like,
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  Speaker 1: Was I right? Oh dude, it was nuts. I hear
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  Speaker 1: this bugle across the drainage on another side, which sparked
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  Speaker 1: another bugle on our side, which sparked another bugle. So
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  Speaker 1: we heard four elk bugle uh, three in the drainage
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  Speaker 1: that we were at, and one across the creek in
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  Speaker 1: and um in the same drainage, so clear across it
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  Speaker 1: and were I look at my buddy Ryan, I just
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  Speaker 1: like that's this big smile on my face and like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god. And one was close and off to
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  Speaker 1: where you can hear the chuckle at the end of it,
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  Speaker 1: and like the a little bit of like the rasp
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  Speaker 1: and like the air and like the yeah, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So we hear these we hear these bugles. Once close
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  Speaker 1: enough we can hear the chuckle, and so I'm getting
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  Speaker 1: fired up. I don't even know what to do. Luckily,
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  Speaker 1: my buddy Adam there is like he's he's been in
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  Speaker 1: that situation before. He's like, Okay, we're gonna work our
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  Speaker 1: way up. We're gonna continue with our plan. And we
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  Speaker 1: worked our way up to the next meadow. Called, heard
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  Speaker 1: a couple of bugles, called, heard a couple of bugles,
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  Speaker 1: And then, which is crazy, the sun came out and
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: it's shut off. Right. We kept calling a little bit,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: we kept calling. Nothing shut off. So we climb up
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: this meadow and then there's this really steep embankment. But
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: at the top of this this incline is a flat bench.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: It's a little open, but what it will allow us
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: to do is scan the opposite side of the drainage
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: to look to see if any elk are coming out
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: on these meadows or if we can see any movement.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: So we climb up. We're sitting. So we started right
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: when we got off the creek. We're at ten to
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: now we're at eleven one. You know, obviously This is
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: a fast version of the story. We pop into a
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: couple more meadow, we eat lunch, um, pop into a
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: couple more meadows. I had uh some cliff bars and
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: then some pack of runs from a company called Heather's Choice.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: What's a pack of room? I don't know. It's like
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: this dense protein bar. It's like, uh um, they're really tasty, dude,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: They're they're really tasty. Okay, was it you or was
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: it further who brought like nothing but cliff bars for
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: like all of their meals except for dinner. Was that you? Yeah?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: That was me on our on Idaho. Oh. I couldn't
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: live like that. So you had you had a packer room,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: which sounds like kind of similar though, right, but it's
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: way soft. They're really soft. They're like it's like a
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: a protein brownie, but but full of all organic stuff.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: So you thumbs up for that, all thumbs up. And
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: because we were out of a camp instead of a tent,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: you know, and we had we could drive our vehicles there,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: we were able to bring more food like bananas and
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: apples and carrots and stuff like that. So every day
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: instead of eating you know, straight cliff bars, I was
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: able to have a banana or a apple right there.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: All the other things you mentioned that you think helped you,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: none of them made a difference. It was just the
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: fact that you went off of a straight cliff bar diet.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: That's that was what you had wrong last time. Probably, Well,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I couldn't I couldn't go to the bathroom last time,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: and this time I didn't have problem going to the bathroom,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: and that'll that'll change things absolutely. Okay, So no cliff bars,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: pecaruns and whatever else. Uh so sorry, yeah, water, So
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: we chilled here for about forty minutes, you know, we
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: catch maybe take a little snooze. And it's kind of
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: funny because my my buddy Ryan has this real fancy
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: watch and it tells you calories burned in elevation and
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: all this stuff, and uh, to get to that point,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: we burnt seventeen hundred calories just in the walk in
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: and dude, I'm telling you, over the course of the
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: entire trip, we were burning anywhere between five thousand to
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: six thousand calories a day. That's pretty that's pretty cool
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: to know. And you get back to camp and you're
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: you're trying to literally force feed yourself and you can't
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: even make it to four thousand calories because you're so full.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, guilt free eating. And and then you wake up,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: you stuff your face with a breakfast until you're almost uncomfortable,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: and you hike and in an hour and a half
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: you're hungry again. So that was nuts. So anyway back
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: to the back to day one, because it's kind of
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the like Day one and day three, we're the kind
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: of the most interesting. We get up there. We then
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: we kind of hike through this next meadow. We're coming around,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: work our way up, do some calling sequences similar to
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: turkey hunting. Right, you're set up, you call, set up call,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: set up call, and uh, hopefully something you know, something
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: was would come out. And long story, long story short,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: we turned around, we head down the mountain um and
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: as we're heading down the mountain, we had all the
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: way back down to where we started in the very
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: most bottom meadow and we uh and overcast starts to
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: come in, a storm comes in, and then it starts
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: raining again, and then something happened in the weather. I
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: hate to keep it interrupt to you, Yeah, because you're
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: getting momentum here and you're really your story flowing, your
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: juices are flown here. But I gotta ask, um, if
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: we're comparing and contrasting last trip to this trip, last trip,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: when it starts rain, you would put a black garbage
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: bag on, did you did you bring the garbage bag back?
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Or did you real rain here this time? No? No,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I had a real rain jacket this time. So I
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: prepared and it worked and I was happy. Oh man,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: that is one of my greatest memories of all hunting
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: trips ever, is looking at you in your parka slash
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: garbage bag, just like literally. But I'm telling you, these
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: rain storms that we witnessed out in Colorado, they went
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: away after fifty minutes, right, it didn't rain all day long. Yeah,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: we had a couple of rough ones. So okay, sorry,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: you're in good rain rain ring. Your's good, it's on check.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I'm staying dry. We were heading down the mountain and
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: as we're heading down the mountain, he lets one one
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: bugle and that an elk all the way across the
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: drainage on the other side of the creek. Um bugles,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: So we work our way even further down, all the
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: way down and uh so we're like, okay, we got
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: across the creek. We're gonna get up into the next
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: drainage and we're gonna go chase that bowl, because that's
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: kind of that was our strategy, try to get one
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: to bugle and go chase it. Right, So, were you
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: kind of doing what you and me had wanted to do,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I would never have the right opportunity. But basically, hear one,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: you just get as close as you think you can
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: and then call if you think you're right in their business. Yep, absolutely,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: and this is where it's good. All right. So we
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: were heading down, we're getting right across the creek. We're
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: probably about a hund yards from the creek, and there's
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: another bugle that just rips off right back from where
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: we just came from. And Adam goes, I bet you
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: anything that bowl bugled in his bed. So we bugle
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: again and he he responds. Again, We bugle again, he responds.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: So we're now we're trying to locate him and if
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: he's coming from the exact same spot, right, and he's like,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: let's go, this one's closer, let's go get him. Go
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: back up the mountain. We get into and as we're
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: as we're getting closer, so like every hundred yards every
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: two yards we bugle, and it's coming from the same
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: exact spot, and this dark timber is so thick and
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: nasty you can't see. You can't even see fifty yards
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: in front of you, right, So we're getting really aggressive
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: and we're going right straight towards this bugle. And the
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: good thing about how this all played out was with
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: the cloud cover and a slight drizzle the afternoon, thermals
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: were coming down. They weren't going up because it was cooler,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: and the rain kind of was pushing the thermals down. Uh,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: it was kind of it wasn't raining, but it was
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: kind of sprinkling. Thermals were going down, and and we
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: were getting closer, and we're getting closer, and now now
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: we're so close that when he bugles, you can feel it,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: like I'm like, you could feel it in your skin.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: When that high pitch part of the bugle goes, your
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: ears just kind of tickle a little bit, like that's
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: how close we were. Right. So we get up to
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: this spot, and by the grace of God, there is
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: an opening right there, right there in the um in
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: this dark, thick, dead fall timber, and it's offering a
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: shooting lane of like twenty to thirty yards and uh,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and Adam goes, okay, you set up here, Dan, you
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: flank over here, and um, I'm gonna drop back and
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: start calling. So Ryan got first shot until he actually
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: let an arrow go? Or were you guys eating on
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: every setup? Not every setup? First shot? Just like the
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: first shot. So we're gonna we're gonna get into position,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: and um the first every time we put Ryan in
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: like the first until he got a shot. It was
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Ryan's shot. That was a high stakes game of rock
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: paper scissors. I know that could have been the whole trip.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: You might have had him leading off. Yeah, it could
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: have been. So did you have any strategy when he
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: went into that rock paper sciss or just go with
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: your gut? I just I just threw. I didn't even
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: think about it, because you think about it and then
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: you start messing up. Yeah, but in retrospect, now that
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: you lost, do you think you should have approached it
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: with any different ideas or tactics? Probably? I don't know.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I really wasn't thinking about I just I was like, Okay,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I don't have a quarter in my pocket. Let's think
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: of a fairway. A fair way to do this. So
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: paper rock scissors one out of one. That's all it was.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: That's that's high stakes. Okay, Yeah, so Ryan's up to bat.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Ryan's up to bat. I dropped down a little bit lower,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: and I come around to another little clearing that's about
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: the size of a small bedroom. I mean, if the
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: elk was gonna come my way, it would have, he
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: would have I would have shot him at ten yards
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: type of deal. So Adam drops back behind Ryan down
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: the down the mountain and he starts taking sticks and
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: branches and ship and just cracking him and throwing logs
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: and beating him and bugling and cow calling, and so
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: what he was doing is sounding like he was running
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: around gathering up some cows. That's what if I had
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: to guess, that's what it sounded like. And every time
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: he bugled, and now you know, we've pushed into about
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: fifty yards of this elk, right, I can't see him yet.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: We know he's above us, but we can't see him yet.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: And he's hammering these bugles and everyone is just like
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: a you know, like just crazy. And I'm telling you man,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: to all the listeners out there, if you ever get
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: the opportunity to go on at elk hunt. It's gonna
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: be brutal. That just depends on where you go. But
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: it's like what we did. It's brutal, it's physical, it's
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: it's a mental game. But if you get the opportunity
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: to hear an elk bugle as close as we did,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: you will think about it every single day for the
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: rest of your life. Dude, I'm telling you, it was
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: a life changing event. It's it's so awesome, and right there,
• 29:39
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• 29:41
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  Speaker 1: onyx maps dot com. So anyway, I'm so I hear
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: some cracking, like so like he's up on his feet
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: now or something. So I dropped. I kind of dropped
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: down a little bit. So I'm way low and I'm
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: trying to look under this dead fall, so I can't
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: see Ryan anymore. But every time, every time Adam bugles
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: or calls, this bowl is responding and he's bugling again,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: and like I said, it's a glorious thing. So so
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: as Adams calling the next bugle sounded like it was
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: further away, maybe he stood up or turned around, so
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I thought, oh my god, this you know, there's a
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: herd of cows or something and he's heading heading off
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: with the cows or whatever. And just as I thought that,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Adam did one hell of a calling sequence, like break
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: some sticks and break the tree and made a bugle
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: and some cow calls, and he turned around and now
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I could look up and I could see the tops
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: of his antlers. He was really close, still still responding
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: with every bugle that h Ryan or excuse me that
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: to Adam set out and I can see his the
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: tops of his antlers. I could see part of his head,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: but that was it. And he's like he swaying them
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: back and forth, almost like a moose does. It was weird.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: He just like really really uh, I don't know, like
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: he was showing off to somebody almost yeah. Um, from
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: what I could see, like every elk is huge to me,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's and and plus it
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: was really thick and nasty, so it's not like I
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: had a perfect clear shot at him. So and then
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I could hear him stomping and pollen, so it was
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: almost like he was freaking pissed, really really piste off.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: And something happened and all of a sudden, he just
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: committed and it sounded like a car being pushed through
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: the woods through the timber, just cracking and coming through.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: It wasn't even like he was trying to go around
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: anything but straight through it. And then there was this
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: moment of silence and I heard and I I knew
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: that what that sound was, and that was Ryan uh
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: letting an arrow go. Yeah, And so I put my
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: arrow back quick in my quiver. I run up and
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: there I see Ryan like looking back at me like
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: he just seen a ghost type of deal, you know,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: like because he killed he killed an elk before, like
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: six years ago with a rifle on a private ranch
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: something you know, almost like shooting fishing a barrel type
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: of thing, and he and Ryan was like, I hit him.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I hit him. I'm like, did you hit him? Did
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: you like I hit him? I hit him? And so
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: we we we just kind of wait for Adam to
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: come up, because Adam didn't know what happened. And I said,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: what which way did he run? He's like, he ran
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: that way. But then I lost him. And remember this
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: is some of the thickest, nastiest ship that I've ever witnessed, right,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: and so if you walk fifty yards ahead of someone,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: you're lost. So we I start whistling for Adam. Adam
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: comes up, We kind of gather ourselves. We say, okay,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: where did you Where do you think you hit him?
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: And Ryan goes, I think I hit him a little
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: forward but high um to where I think I got
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: high long. And I'm like, dude, if you got high long, man,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: we're in business, man, We're in business. And so we
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: wait just like two minutes, three minutes, and then we
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: start making our way to the impact where and this
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: this was inside twenty yards where he had this shot,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: so probably closer to fifteen if I had to guess.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: But he hit him just a little bit high, he
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: thought because I didn't I wasn't able to see the
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: shot or the impact. Um. At once this once this
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: elk came down the side of the mountain towards Ryan.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I lost all all side of him and it was
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: just my hearing from then on. And so we we
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: kind of looking. We're looking on the ground. Nothing, We're
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: looking on, you know, for some stumps. Nothing, and then
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Ryan finds a zero and it's broken off and total penetration.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: And this is generous, probably about four inches maybe less.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: So what we're thinking is we hit the shoulder and
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: he was shooting a mechanical broadhead and it it hit
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: it and it just stopped basically through the meat of
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: the front shoulder, hit the hit the bone and just
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: stopped right there. But we did our due diligence and
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: we we we grid searched for minutes. No blood, no
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: unturned like upturned soil or anything from where we could
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: see him running. And long story short, that was the uh.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: That was Ryan's first archery shot at a at an elk.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: And um, there's nothing you say to a guy after that.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: You know, I could have sat there and be like, hey, sport,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be okay. You know, keep your head up
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: ship like that. It's like you had an opportunity like
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: that and he you just it didn't it didn't happen, right, So,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: so so we're talking about We're like, Ryan, what do
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: you think this? What do you think this bowl? How
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: big was he? And Ryan goes, I don't. I don't
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: know too much about ELK, but I'm staying somewhere between
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: two fifty and three. And then he starts to describe
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: the characteristics and he said, all I know is I
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: saw the end of one of his and they I
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: guess they call him a whale tail. The whale tail,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: so I guess the whale tail is something that's predominant
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: on six by six is so Adam thinks it was
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: bigger than that. Um so maybe I don't know between
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: three class bowl. So and from what I saw it
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: it was it wasn't like hugely wide, but they were
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: really tall from what I can see, or well kind
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: of they flare back, I don't know. So from what
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I could see, so it was it was a good
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: decent bowl and it just didn't happen. Sounds like a
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: very exciting day, but that is that is the ultimate bummer. Yeah, absolutely.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Now here's something that I was I knew I wasn't
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: necessarily a shooter, but there was a chance that if
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: this elp came around the other way, I would have
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: had a shot on him. And for some reason, I
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: was not fire it up like I would have been
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: if I was deer hunting for some reason, like when
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: that when that deer shows up and and you're I
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: don't know, you're already you're you get buck fever, I guess,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: or you get that huge adrenaline dump like I know
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen, and I know I'm drawn back. I
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: didn't get that. I was really clear, and that was
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: strange to me. Do you think that was more because
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: of the scenario, you know, outcutting different species, different place,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: or was it more because you knew that you were
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: runner up? Well? I think a lot. I think a
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: lot of it has has to do with I think
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: for for deer hunting, you have a real low heart
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: rate and then it goes to a real high heart rate.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: My heart rate was already up right from climbing up
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: the mountain, so it's not like if I had an
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: adrenaline rushed my heart was gonna do anything more than
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: what it was already doing, you know what I mean.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. I just I was clear, I
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: was ready, and I was focused. So that's nuts. I
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: thought I was gonna be like losing my ship. Yeah,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: now that doesn't mean you couldn't lose your ship litter
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: in the trip, possibly, right right right, So tell me
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: what happens next. I'm gonna fast forward today three alright,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: So day two we go back to the same area.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: We hear two bugles, We chase them, nothing happens. We
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: have an encounter with a calf. Uh, nobody takes a
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: shot at it, just because you know, I mean, in
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: in light of what just happened the day before, we
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: felt like we had hit something right right, and then
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Adam had to head back into town, uh, to his
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: house to meet someone for get internet set up in
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: his new house. So me and Ryan were kind of
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: on our own. We had our on X maps, we were,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: you know, looking at where we needed to go. Oh
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: my god. We had a hike that went from ten
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: to eleven one and it was straight up and it
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: was literally one of the most punishing things and growing
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: things I have ever physically done in my entire life. Period.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I I don't know how many calories reburned, but it
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: was I mean, I was losing my mind, climbing this
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: like mental failure, getting mad, getting angry because we were
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: going up the same dead fall, but we were up
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: the same deadfall, but we were going at like a
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: forty degree angle. Do you think this this one sucked?
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: This watch that Ryan had that told you your exact elevation,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: do you think that was a blessing or curse? Because
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I could see it being a little scary or a
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: little bit. Uh. Every time you actually look at that number, like,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: oh god, we've gone seven, we've gonet that much. Did
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: that make misery more exaggerated? Uh? Not necessarily, because I
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: wouldn't ask him until we were done with the punishment, right,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: I ever asked before, because whenever Adam said, hey, we
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: just gotta pop up this ridge, like that's what someone
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: who lives out there says. Uh. If I was up
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: there and I was going to tell somebody what we
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: had to do, I would look at him straight in
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: the face and I would say, I'm going to try
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: to kill you right now. So that's what that punishment
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: was like. And we um, you know, we went back
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: down the mountain. Uh we he went, he went home.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: We went kind of up a little bit up to
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: a different drainage, worked our way down and uh man,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I was beat after that day. Got up the next morning,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: got into the truck and we went to a completely
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: different part of the mountain and we walked into this
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: little secluded drainage slash meadow and it was one of
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: the most beautiful things. Like the sun's coming up over
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: the mountains and it's just beautiful, a light, there's some
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: clouds the air, no bugles, but and this is a
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: learning experience for me, and it's something that I made
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: a mistake one time during this trip, and I didn't
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: make it again. So you hike in and just your
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: bass layers because you're sweating balls by the time you
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: get to where you went. And I felt, hey, I'm
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: still gonna be hot in twenty minutes or ten minutes.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna sit here in my bass layers. And
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: while Adams drops back, you know, drops back and calls,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: and I'm so now I'm up to bat first, right,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: So I get the I guess what you would call
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: the favor favorable position, and we're looking across this drainage
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, thirty yards from where I'm sitting
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: to the opposite side, so it was kind of steep
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: on both sides, so if something came out, you could
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: you could shoot across the drainage at it. And I
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: set up and I started getting cold, and my backpacks
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: behind a tree, so I get out, and as I
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: stand up and turn around, I hear something on the
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: other side take off and run away. And I'm just like,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: I just screwed up, like a potential opportunity, because you know,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: we could hear elk across the drainage, like just working
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: around in there, walking back and forth and stuff. And
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: then I started shivering because I was cold, so I
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: needed to go get some more layers on. So I
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: stood up and walked around the tree and there must
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: have been something close on the other side that busted
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: me and it took off running fast. Forward about twenty
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: more minutes and we all meet up back behind these trees,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, we hear something run off
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: and we look and it's a cow had stuck up
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: behind us. So our bows are all down on the
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: ground and Ryan goes, oh, man, there's another there's another
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: cow coming right at us. And it wasn't a cow,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: it was a bull. And if I thought that the
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: bull on day one was huge, you could have put
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: that bowls rack into this bulls rack. It was. And
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I feel I don't know shit about scoring, and I
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: don't know anything, so I'm not going to try to
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: say a score. But I've watched in my day a
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: lot of YouTube videos and stuff, and I would put
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: this elk up there with any other elk I've seen
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: on TV. Uh. Just gigantic. And it it came in
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: silent behind us, and we looked and I grabbed my
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: bow and knock an arrow and I'm getting ready to
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: draw and it runs away. It wasn't like I had
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: a shot anyway, but it was one of those things
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: where it's just like I got to see it. It's
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: like it made eye contact with me. Was it was
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: mind blowing lee huge. And again I'm from Iowa. I've
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: seen now at this point in my life, I've seen
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: two bowl elk somewhat close right in real life. So
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: it could have been a three inch and the other
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: one could have been a you know, a two fifty,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: but I know it was big and I was just
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: jacked up about it, and like, so if that, if
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: if it ended right there, I would call that a
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: successful trip. But we had we had five more days
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: to go. Unfortunately, this is where everything slows down, not
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: another bugle. It got warm and the weather turned nice,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: and we bounced around every day and every day was
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: just basically hiking and setting up on fresh sign and
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: doing our due diligence and grinding and grinding and grinding,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: and unfortunately nothing happened. Yeah, it sounds like a pretty
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: awesome trip though, those first few days, like you just said,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: makes for them for success, right right. I'm telling you,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, I will go elk hunting
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: every year for the rest of my life. Yeah. It
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: gets in your blood. Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's fun. And
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: it was not only the hardest thing I've ever had
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: to do physically, but like I was better prepared mentally
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: for this time because I remembered what that punishment breathing
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: was like. So it was like I had time to
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: prepare for So it's like I knew what I was
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: getting into. Yeah. That helps that helps a lot. So
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: long story short, dude, that's my that's my Colorado trip
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: in a nutshell. It was long, but I'm glad that
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: you've got that experience, though I felt so bad after
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: our trip. I've been talking it up so much and
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: telling me about how the year before was nuts and
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: having those moments like you described, and it obviously didn't
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: pan out for us on that one, but now you know, yeah,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: now you know it was nuts, dude. And I just
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: it's one of those things where I've said it before
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: and I'll say it again. I wish everybody has the
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: opportunity to experience something like that, because white tail hunting
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: is one thing, but when you have eight hundred pound animal,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: nine pound animal running around making the loudest noises you've
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: ever heard, it's an experience in itself. Dude. Yeah, I'm
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: glad we're having this conversation because I leave for an
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: elk hunt next week. And I mean, I wasn't I'm
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: not even really, at least not until now. I haven't
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: been the extcited about it. I've been looking forward to
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: whitetail stuff in October. I'm like playing all this stuff
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: out and and I'm kind of overtraveled a little bit,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: so just kind of burnt out and kind of just
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: wanted to spend some family time. You know, I was
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: gone for the last eleven days and I'm home for
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: like six, and I've just been thinking, Man, I wish
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't schedule this trip right after that. I really
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: would just like, you know, two, three, four weeks at
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: home instead of six days. But um, all that aside,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: you did give me a new bump of excitement for
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: that that bugle and that bugle and fest that hopefully
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: I'll be experiencing here next week. So thank you for that.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you though, it was tough. You know, I
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: hadn't been on a big, big trip like this, Like
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: I've been to the A T a show that's like
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: basically a three day event. But I was gone a
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: total of let's see, I left on the thirty first
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: and I got back on the it would have been
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: the eight So I was gone eight days from my family,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: and it's it sucked. I mean, I'm not gonna lie
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: at man. I didn't. I wouldn't say I got homesick,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: but I missed my kids and I missed my wife.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: So being able to come home and see them again
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: was that's very enjoyable. Yeah, yeah, I could definitely relate
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: to you more on that now on this trip, and
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: definitely was feeling that it was different knowing that Everett
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: was back home and not, you know, just not being
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: a part of the daily life with him. And I
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: loved getting pictures and videos and stuff that my wife
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: was sending. But then that also is just like I
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: just want to be there. Um. So it's definitely different,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: and and like I said, I'm not looking forward to
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: leaving again right away. But but that's my elk hunt.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I want to know a little bit about this North
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Dakota trip because you were obviously your successful in Montana
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: and you crossed the border. What happened? Yeah, so I
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: had that great hunt in Montana. And sorry that we're
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: not getting to talk about it at all, um, but
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: you know we already talked about with further and Spencer.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Anything you need to know that you don't know about
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: that that we should cover in two minutes. Here, are
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: you good? Well, I'll just ask you for the coordinates
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: after recording. Yeah, how much you got in your savings account, dance.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: We might be able to negotiate something, okay, we will
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: not be able to negotiate something, okay. So I killed
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: my Blucome Montana. Um, I'm driving towards North Dakota on
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: that first day and I actually get kind of sick
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: in the car. Or maybe maybe it was more that
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: was really exhausted. Um, I think at that point I
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: was just not feeling great. He end I had to
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: get a podcast up and do all this kind of
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: stuff and long story shore, I'm like, you know what,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get to camp tonight. I'm just gonna
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: get in a hotel room. I'm gonna get this work done.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna shower. You know, it's all bloody and gross
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: after having gutted and recovered that deer that day. So yeah,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: I get to the hotel room, ended up like getting
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: like nauseous and horrible headache and like pass out like
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: eight thirty that night in the hotel. Next day, get up,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: get some more work done, start driving in North Dakota.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: I don't end up getting to our spot in North
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Dakota util that evening at like six o'clock in the evening,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: so I can't hunt that night. Um, Josh is out hunting.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: So I decided I'm just gonna get out there and
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: get up on one of these big bluffs that overlooks
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: this river bottom that we're hunting, and see what I
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: could see, just try to get eyes on something. Because
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Josh had been there hunting for three days and up
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: to this point he had not seen hardly anything. He
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: had seen I think one year and a half old
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: buck and a handful of dose every day. And he
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: then had been he had been up on the on
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: the hills glassing in them warnings, trying to see, like
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: we're all these deer and was not seeing the number
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: of deer that we were expecting. But he was seeing
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: some other hunters. Um, there was there wasn't any other
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: white tail hunters, but there was guys out there chasing
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: you know, other western species, mules whatever. Um. Now, Charlie interrupt,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: but this is the same area that you guys went
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: shed hunting at the spring. Yes, we found we found
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: a good number of sheds in there, and we scouted
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: it and we saw a good sign um. So it
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: looked really good, like we had really high hopes for
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: the spot. Um. But Josh's time there was not showing
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: anything good. I show up, I sit in this butte
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: I started glassing. I don't see crap. I just see
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: a couple of does, and I can see like a
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: mile in either direction. I mean, I can cover a
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: big chunk of ground that there. You should be seeing
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: deer coming out crossing this river, coming out into some
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: of these openings, moving in around the Cottonwood groves. Nothing,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: so that's concerning. That night, we regrouped. Josh hardly saw
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: anything again that night. The next morning I'm like, all right, well,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not just gonna go sit blindly in an area
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: where we're not seeing anything. We need to we need
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: to keep learning, we need to find these deers. So
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: the next morning again I go to another spot, try
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: to glass that again, don't see anything. So after like
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: an hour, I screwed out of there and I start
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: driving rhads trying to see are there any deer in
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: any these Are there some private land fields that are
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: pulling all the deer? What's going on? Drive around, drive around,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: hardly anything at all. So we get back to camp.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Now this is like Josh's day four, I think, and
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: you know, we're kind of at a loss. He's not
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: seeing a deer. These two scouting sessions are showing really
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: really poor numbers. Still haven't seen a single mature buck
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: and we're down to two days left too, and hap
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: days left or whatever. Um So, finally that you know,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: we're sitting there midday and I kind of had this
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: idea pop in my head. You know, why, what are
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: we doing in this kind of area. It's not like
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: hunting in Michigan or Aisole where there's tons of cover
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: and you obviously wouldn't see these but sucks if there
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: were deer in this area. I was pretty confident that
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: we should see some side of them, like there should
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: be deer moving. There's not down on the river bottoms.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: There weren't a bunch of hunters, so I didn't think
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: these deer were crazy over pressured if they were in there.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Um So I throughout the ideas. Okay, we instead of
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: wasting our time here where we've not gotten a single
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: indication of there being a deer we actually want to
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: hunt and shoot. Over the last four or five days
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: or whatever however long Josh had been there, plus since
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: I was there, what if we relocate, What if we
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: spend Yeah, we're sacrificing some sits, but what if we
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: just keep looking until we actually find a deer we
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: want to shoot and then make a move on those deer.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Right now, we're not seeing anything that there really is
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: indicative of of worthwhile time spend the treats, you know,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: actually trying to fill tagg at least. So I had
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: seen some other public land a couple hours north of here.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Then it looked really good in the maps in the past.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: I've never been there, but it looked good, and there
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: was a lot of food. It looked like food sources
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: fields that was on the public land. Or jay us
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: into that public land. I thought, you know, that's that's
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: the kind of stuff that's kind of give me this
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: time year. At least it is like a much more
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: sure sign um than what we had here. There was
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: no food by where we're hunting in this spot. Um,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: So I thought, let's go back to the well. I know,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: this is like a tried and true strategy that's worked
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: for me. It worked for me in Montana. Find public
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: land betting that's close to private land food, get up
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: in there, um and and try to get eyes on
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: something that says, yes, there are deer here, and then
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: hunt the public behind him. So so, after mulling it
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: over for a little bit, we finally decided, you know,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: let's swing for the fences. Let's try it, and we
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: would only have we were going to drive up there
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: that night and have that night and the next morning
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: to do some scouting, and then we would hunt the
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: next night and next morning, and then we had to go. Yeah,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: so we do the drive, We get up there, we
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: have an hour to drive around that night, drive around
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: the back roads around this public land. It looks really good,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: and I end up finding a field with a whole
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: bunch of deer in it that's on public land. And
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: I get my spotting scope out and I see a
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: couple pretty bus that possibly would be a shooter for me,
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: for sure be a shooter for josh Um. So I'm like,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: all right, bingo, this is exactly what I wanted to see.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: We've got a huntable area with huntable deer um, and
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, we've actually got something to work
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: with here versus what we had before. So I felt
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: great about that. The next day we went in, scouted
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: another area in the morning, and hung stands midday for
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: the next morning. Really cool stuff. But the most interesting
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: and important stuff happened that night. We go and sneak
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: into that spot where I saw those bucks. We had
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: a pretty good wind, what looked like it's gonna be
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: pretty good wind for this spot. I had seen most
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: of this deer come out of kind of this inside
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: corner of this field, and and they're feeding out within
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: sight of a road in daylight, which was interesting. I mean,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: it told me that they weren't getting hunted. So I
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: felt pretty good about our chances going into the next day.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: They probably do something pretty similar, since they didn't seem
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: like they were, you know, particularly worried about hunters, and
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: this was almost a weekend to the season there. Um,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: So I put Josh. I told Josh, you know, if
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: you want, I'd probably recommend the best spout would be
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: the inside corner whemost those deer came out, so he
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: snuck in there with a stand. I went to another
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: area farther down the field where I had seen some
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: of these deer feeding. There weren't any trees, there's grass
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: and brush. Um, but I thought, I'll just tuck in
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: that brush, sit in the ground, and hopefully watch Josh
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: you a deer if something gets past him, or if
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: something pops on a different spot, I'll back clean up
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: down here. And the basically gist of that night is
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: that it went almost exactly like I thought it was
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: going to. These deer started popping out in that field
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: really early, like two or three hours before dark. They
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: were very comfortable. Um. It seemed like the main thing
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: they were feeding in this field there's some kind of
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: weed that I'm not familiar with, though it was, but
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: it looks like they had also just planted some kind
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: of cover crop, maybe turnips or radishes or something that
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: were just starting to come out of the ground. And um,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: I think that was probably what they're feeding on, because
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: I know, you know, those those fresh turnip greens or
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: ratis screens or whatever, that stuff sometimes can be really
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: attractive right now, Um, so I think that's what they're
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: keying in on. These deers start piling out. We've seen
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: a bunch of does. I have a buck come out
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: close to me that it's like a nice two year old.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: He's feeding around, and then that wind shifts completely around
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: like on a dime, spins around, blows right back into
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: the cover that we're thinking all these deer better than
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: all these deers start spooking. I'm here deer blowing behind me.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: There was a buck that circled around me. He disappears.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: The deer that were out in the field near Josh
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: went and go taken off, and we're sitting there with
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: like an hour of daylight left, just defeated, Like, man,
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: this was setting up perfect. We had made this, you know,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: we took this risk, we got to this new spot.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: It was working out perfectly. I was thinking like, oh man,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: this is amazing. It's gonna work out. And the wind
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: kind of ruined it. But as daylight continues, somehow more
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: deer start showing up now with the new wind even
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: and here comes a buck. Here comes a buck. Here
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: comes six does, here comes eight does? Here comes another buck.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: And while there's this like decent ish buck kind of
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: near me that I'm watching, I get a text from
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Josh saying, I gotta shoot her. It sixty yards or
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: something I can't get a shot at, you know, really nice.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: What was at least a three year old maybe older
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: buck had come out just out of range from fifty
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: yards out in front of him, but you know, passing
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: through some thick stuff and then moved out into the
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: field at like sixty or seventy. I think it was
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: a big eight pointer, but a split brow time I think,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: is what he said. And so he had that big
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: buck up in front of like sixty yards for a
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: long time, never came any closer. He started moving off
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: than another nice buck came popping out, but at seventy um,
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: so we found this little honey hoole spot Josh was
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: just you know, ten fifteen yards off where you know
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: it would have worked out. He got some serious buck fever.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: He had a you know, like an awesome and adrenalin rush.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: He was telling me about it afterwards that you know
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: that that's an awesome feeling to get that first buck
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: fever of the year. Um. So it made the trip
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: all worth it, I think, just with that, like just
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: to have a fun encounter, just so you could see
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: some deer, because it had been really slow going from
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: up to that point. So I felt really good about
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: it because you know, I just wanted him to have
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: a good time. At this point, I was feeling, you know,
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: it was all gravy for me. Society already filled my tag.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: But that was a fun night close encounters. Next morning,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: we went into this spot that we had hunted, that
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: we had set up the day before, and this was
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: again this was like a we're just swinging for the fences.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: We knew it's early season, we've never been here before,
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: but we decided we we would almost try like a
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: bumping dump type thing. We're just gonna plow right into
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: the thickest best looking like betting, knowing that we're gonna
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: blow anything out of there as we go into there,
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: set the stand and just pray that maybe we could
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: catch them coming back the very next morning, the one
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: time they come back in before getting all you know,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: boogered out of there. Um. It did not work, but
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: there weren't many better options for that morning set, so
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: we tried that. That That didn't working, and that was it.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: That was the North Dakota trip. It was, you know,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: a day of it was me recovering, a day of
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: it was almost two days it was scouting around trying
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: to find here, and then a day and a half
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: of it was actually hunting. But I'm glad we I'm
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: glad that we spent more time to find those deer
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: versus sitting in a tree and seeing a dough and
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: night in the same spot where we were before, just
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: because we didn't want to try something new. So it
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: was cool, you know, it was cool. Just to be
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: out there, and that was that first kind of trip
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: for for further um. So I think he learned a
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: lot from it, and I think it was just a
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: good experience for him too. And wait, a good time.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: So that was North Dakota and I got back here
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: to Michigan and just trying to get a bunch of
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: stuff done here in my six days. I've got before
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: the elk hunt, um that archery yep archery Montana, and
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: before I continue discussing my last few things I've been
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: up to here in Michigan before that Montana trip, I
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: want to quit break for our last break of this episode,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: to hear from our friends at White Tail Properties. This week.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: With white Tail Properties, we are drawn by Jeff Probes
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: and lands Specialists out of Missouri, and Jeff is going
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: to be talking to us about getting started filming your
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: own hunts. Well, I've filmed personally, my son and I
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: did for a long time. I was involved in it
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: for over twenty years. My son and I filmed together
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: for about fifteen years and uh pretty much retired from
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: it now. But I guess the first thing is is
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: don't skimp, skimp on your equipment. If you're wanting to,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: particularly if you're wanting to try to do something on
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: a professional level, get good quality equipment, obviously high definition cameras.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: The cameras have changed so much since we were in it.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: I mean they've got these small little handheld cameras now
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: that take just about as good a quality footage as
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: the old big cameras we used to carry. And um,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: you know, get good quality footage and get a good mike.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Don't go with an onboard mic on this on the
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: cameras that come with the buy a shotgun mike of
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: good quality. Spend the money, do it right. Use a
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: tree arm when you're in a tree to get nice, smooth,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: steady pans. And when you're on the ground if it's
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: if it's feasibly, use a tripod. Just keep your footage
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: nice and steady, whether you're in a tree or on
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: the ground. But the big thing is to don't skimp
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: on equipment. By good stuff and it'll show with your footage.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: The quality will show through. If you'd like to learn
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: more and to see the properties that Jeff currently has
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: listed for sale, visit white tail properties dot com. Backslash
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: propes that's p r O p s t um and Uh.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: I went to that new property I've got permission on
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: the west side of the state today and hung four stands. Um.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: It's very last minute, much later than I usually like to.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: But the guy that's out there, um, that's aweso on
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: this property. He is kind of putsing around a lot
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: of time, checking it out on a on like a
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: gator or like a UTV kind of deal. So he,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of believes that these deer are
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: pretty comfortable with his presence on that as often as
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: he goes through there, so we kind of use that
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: to mask us, you know, getting a tree stand hunk.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: So we went in there with that thing just like
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: he usually does. Left that going hung the stands, got
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: out of there, so, you know, not that much, rarely
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: be getting it done a month ago, but it is
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: what it is. Better to have something going than not. Um,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: So it's good to get that work done. And you know,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: back here on the on the main spot, the holy
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: field spot, I've got no good news. There no pictures
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: of him. Um. I checked one camera and that back
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: food plot where that camera was. The plot is like
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: a dirt field. I don't know what happened, but Braskas
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: aren't coming in like they usually do, so that was
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: a bust and that's kind of where I'm at. Yeah, Yeah,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: I got October One's a Sunday this year, so I
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: don't even know if I'm gonna hunt or not, but um,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: I think I'm going to. Whether it's gonna be around
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: home or back back at the main farm, it's uh,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm a firm believer of stay out of
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: the timber in September. So I got trail cameras that
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: I've only checked one time this entire summer, and it
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: pisses me off just a little bit that I haven't
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: had the time to go do it. But hopefully that
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: translates into just less pressure on the farm. So we
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: will see. I probably won't check my you know, unless
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: I maybe go down there at some time at some point.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna be checking my trail cameras
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: until that first week of first week of October. Yeah, probably,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: like you said, probably a good thing. I've definitely laid
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: off checking summer cameras significantly. Um. I think I checked
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: cameras once I put cameras out beIN of August. Check
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: him once. Just but just like the deer shift, man,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: I always try to get like the last week in August,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: take my trail cameras off of my mineral stations and
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: put them in pinch points and put them in fence
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: crossings and you know, historically good places where maybe a
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: scrape or two might pop up. But I haven't done that,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: so I'm gonna be a little bit behind. I should
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: still be able to go do it before the rut hits,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: but you know, I don't know. Man. Yeah, that's a
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: good point, and I'm not necessarily worried about it. It's
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: just the fact that I won't have like my typical
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: September data that I like to have, you know, once
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: that once the deer go hard horn, they have that shift,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: and I like to catch that shift on trail camera. However,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: this year I seems like I won't. I won't have that. Yeah,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: I got more bad news for you. Oh, October one
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: is on a Monday. It's on a Monday. It's on
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: a Monday. I love my calendar. Well, son of a gun,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: H want to take the day off? No, dude, here's
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: the thing, here's the just the green light way to
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: get out of a day at work. You call in
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: and you tell your boss diarrhea, you have explosive diarrhea.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: They will they will not question it. They will just
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: try to get off the phone as quickly as possible
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: and you'll be golden. Yeah, summon that up. Eat some
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: chili the night before, so you don't need to lie
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: about it. Boss listens to this. Dude, I wish no
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: he does. Really, Yeah, your boss is a deer hunt. Yeah, dude,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: he he has. He bought this, uh farm out in
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: the country. This is just a real short story. He
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: bought this farm out in the country and every year
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: he's had a boot and crockett on it. And his
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: first buck he's ever shot with a bow is like
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: a one high one fifties did you Iowa, guys, it's
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: not even right. Yep, Wow, this is amazing. So wow
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: something like that. So so he hears all the stuff
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: you talk about and he still keeps you hired. Well,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: it's not like a trash trash anybody you know, Uh,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: the cubical life. It can get to a guy. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: I can. Well, hello to Dan's boss. Thanks for being
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: a fan. Okay, Well, we've kind of ramble on about
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: our hunts. I've got one listener question that I want
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: us to tackle here before we wrap up to his
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: quick show. YEP, this comes from Jake in Arlington, Virginia.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: He says that he uh, I'll just quote I went
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: to a Washington Nationals game yesterday with my wife and
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: got into conversation about walk up songs before the batter
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: goes up to hit. I'd love to hear what you
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: and Dan talk about, or what you would talk about
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: as far as walk up songs to when you're going hunting,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: and if that would change throughout the year, Like would
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: you have a different walkout song for the early season,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: for the rut versus the late season, um et cetera.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: So if you could have a walkout song as your
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: head into the stand, what would that be? Dan? Alright,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: So first I gotta say something. Fred Bear by Ted Nugent.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: In my opinion, it's not a good let's get ready
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: for hunting song. Sorry, I probably pissed a lot of
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: people off. I don't care. Second, it's a classic though
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: many I don't care if it's a classic. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: it's a classic. Because what it's the only song that
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: we're like they talk about hunting and it's called fred Bear.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not. I don't feel it. I don't
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: feel it. So anyway, so what's your better alternative? So
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not the guy who's like, you know,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: like metal is out for me, Country Western it mostly
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: is out. I want some like really mel Low Tiptoe
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: and type stuff. So this, this isn't what you listen to.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: This is the song that would play as you triumphantly
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: head to your stand, as if you were walking to
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: the plate. Yes. Yes, And when I'm heading to the
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: plate to the tree stand, I'm not looking at headbang.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not looking to get crazy fired up. I'm what
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: I'm ready to get focused, all right. So one song
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: that comes to mind Neil Young Cortez The Killer. I
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: don't know if I know that one off top of
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: my head. Yeah, because it was made probably before your
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: dad was born. Okay, So Neil Young Cortez The Killer
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: for there um anything off the album? What what album is?
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: It's the Black Keys, uh, and it's the album Um Brothers.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: So I like that whole album. So those are just
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: two examples of just something like some bam bam bam
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: dada Da Da Da, Bum Bump Bob and then the
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: most inspiring music ever, just like some real laid back
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: chill music. You know, it's not let me guess you're
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: gonna be like blow sticks and ship on the way
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: to stand. Now, that's like my everyday life, man, I
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: got yeah, I gotta, I gotta change it up for
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: the tree stand. But basically my walk up song to
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: my office every day would be UM. But yes you
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: as you know, and as many people past listeners know,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: I like some good e d M, dance and techno music.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: That's like my pre hunt truck drive music that I
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: listen to. UM. But I think for my walkout song,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: I would have to steal a page out of the
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: book of my alma mater and play the song that
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: they play when the football team runs out into the field,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: because like just that moment for me in college, like
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: every time that happened, when the players come out and
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: they play this song, it just gets me so amped up.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: And that is thunderstruck by a C. D. C um
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: That song headed walking up to the walking up to
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: the plate would get me fired up and ready for
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: a cold front on November four, So I think that
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  Speaker 1: would have to be my pick, but I'll try Cortez
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  Speaker 1: the Killer, Quartets the Cornado or whatever things calling me
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  Speaker 1: Neil Young and the song is Cortez the Killer. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'll give that a try and when we'll see how
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  Speaker 1: that works for me. Well, good luck with that, um,
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  Speaker 1: thanks man. Um. All right, well, uh dude, awesome elk hunt.
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy it was fun, um, And I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if we'll be if I'm gonna be able to record one,
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  Speaker 1: let's try to record one before my elk hunt next week. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but if not, hopefully have a story on that soon.
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  Speaker 1: So that's it for me, buddy, and that's it for
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  Speaker 1: the show too, So thank you for listening. Um. My
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  Speaker 1: Make sure you are subscribed to the wire Unting YouTube channel.
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  Speaker 1: I got the video of my last day hunting in
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  Speaker 1: Montana up on there, so you can see that whole hunt.
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  Speaker 1: Check that out, get a leg it would subscribe. I
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  Speaker 1: would appreciate that so much. And otherwise, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: one other thing I mean to mention is that Dan
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  Speaker 1: actually did a full three part series about his elk hunt,
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  Speaker 1: and I believe it was it was with Adam and Ryan,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: the guys he hunted with. He did that over on
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: the nine Fingure Chronicles podcast, so if you want more
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: details about that, be sure check out his podcast there. Otherwise,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: stay tuned for more. It's gonna be exciting a few
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  Speaker 1: weeks coming up here with ELK and the Michigan season
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  Speaker 1: kicking off the Iowa season kicking off for Dan, so
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  Speaker 1: hopefully we'll have some good stories for you on that
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  Speaker 1: front as well. Until next time, I guess I will
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  Speaker 1: just leave you by saying thank you again, good luck
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  Speaker 1: on your seasons as well, and stay Wired to Hunt.
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