Latest / Chuck Douglas / Trump commutes sentace of George Santos
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Got a little pushback, not a lot, but a little
- 0:02Speaker 1: pushback on the social media over the weekend. And I'll
- 0:05Speaker 1: tell you what, We've We've had a couple of days,
- 0:08Speaker 1: what almost three days now to digest this, and I'm
- 0:11Speaker 1: still I'm still trying to come to terms with this
- 0:17Speaker 1: commutation of Santos. You know, as a general rule, I'm
- 0:25Speaker 1: pretty supportive of what our president does. I think that
- 0:30Speaker 1: it's a bit bombasting sometimes some people who I'm crude, rude, i'mnoxious, whatever,
- 0:36Speaker 1: But I believe he's got a uh, he's got a
- 0:39Speaker 1: vision for where he believes he wants to take us,
- 0:45Speaker 1: and he stays focused on that vision, and sometimes he
- 0:48Speaker 1: ruffles some feathers, obviously. So I'm now one of these,
- 0:52Speaker 1: you know, anti Donald Trump. Everything he does is miserable
- 0:56Speaker 1: type of people. But I'm having trouble accepting the commutation
- 1:04Speaker 1: of George Santos. The guy lied about everything. He made
- 1:08Speaker 1: a mockery of us. He lied about employment, he lied
- 1:14Speaker 1: about education, he lied about campaign finance, He lied about
- 1:18Speaker 1: money he was collecting for a animal charity or something.
- 1:21Speaker 1: He lied, He lied, he lied, he lied. He almost seems,
- 1:27Speaker 1: honestly like like he's got some kind of major psychological
- 1:31Speaker 1: issues to me, and I had a couple of people
- 1:36Speaker 1: come back on me on the Facebook page, and uh,
- 1:39Speaker 1: you know, well, other people have done far worth. I
- 1:42Speaker 1: don't care about that. You know, justifying your bad acts
- 1:47Speaker 1: by somebody else being more bad than you has never
- 1:51Speaker 1: worked for me.
- 1:55Speaker 2: I always thought deflections were the worst arguments ever.
- 1:58Speaker 1: They really are. Always whatever anybody else has done and
- 2:02Speaker 1: has been sentenced to or not sentenced to for what
- 2:05Speaker 1: they have done is irrelevant.
- 2:09Speaker 2: Yeah, you're basically going, I got caught rob in a bank,
- 2:12Speaker 2: but judge, this other guy did too, so.
- 2:15Speaker 1: He took more money than me, right right, you know
- 2:17Speaker 1: what I mean.
- 2:18Speaker 2: Like, it's just it always frustrates me when I hear
- 2:21Speaker 2: that kind of argument anyway.
- 2:22Speaker 1: And I'm willing to listen. I mean, I am willing
- 2:25Speaker 1: to listen, but it's I just I don't know that
- 2:31Speaker 1: I don't know that it's possible to convince me that
- 2:37Speaker 1: this was a good thing at the very least. The optics,
- 2:42Speaker 1: as they say, are are terrible. We're talking about being
- 2:48Speaker 1: a law and order country and restore Well, you know
- 2:50Speaker 1: that that applies to everybody, and the same thing every
- 2:53Speaker 1: time I have somebody from from the left side of
- 2:56Speaker 1: the political spectrum. In a conversation about the illegal immigration,
- 3:04Speaker 1: it eventually comes to me saying the same thing. If
- 3:10Speaker 1: this is okay with you, if this illegal immigration coming
- 3:17Speaker 1: into this country for whatever reasons you might have, if
- 3:21Speaker 1: this is okay with you, please tell me, by your standards,
- 3:26Speaker 1: what federal law may I break with no repercussions. And
- 3:33Speaker 1: that usually brings us to a conclusion. You cannot you
- 3:42Speaker 1: cannot talk about being a land of laws, and uh,
- 3:49Speaker 1: can you tell I'm really bothered by this? And again
- 3:52Speaker 1: I'll listen to you A two one nine eight eighty six,
- 3:54Speaker 1: A two one WTV and eight hundred and six to
- 3:56Speaker 1: ten double UTV, And I'm I'm, I am a tempting
- 4:00Speaker 1: to be absolutely and completely reasonable, but I just I
- 4:09Speaker 1: swear to you, I think this was absolutely the wrong
- 4:11Speaker 1: move to make. I also, you know, think that we're
- 4:18Speaker 1: going after a little fish. You know, the big news
- 4:20Speaker 1: last week, the Komy indictment. I will not forget the
- 4:24Speaker 1: chance of lock her up, lock her up. And Hillary
- 4:28Speaker 1: has been allowed and able to and apparently inclined to
- 4:33Speaker 1: fly under the radar for the majority of this term.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Every now and then she'll stick her head out so
- 4:39Speaker 1: she can run her mouth and then she ducks back.
- 4:42Speaker 1: Let's not forget the illegal server. Let's not forget the
- 4:47Speaker 1: thirty three thousand deleted emails. While mar A Lago is
- 4:52Speaker 1: getting raided, she's she's walking away with thirty three thousand
- 5:00Speaker 1: deleted emails, covering her tracks and being just as obnoxious
- 5:05Speaker 1: as you want to be. When she was questioned about it,
- 5:10Speaker 1: missus Clinton, did you wipe your servant? Do you mean
- 5:13Speaker 1: with a cloth or something? How ignorant does she think
- 5:17Speaker 1: we are? Well? Apparently we are, because she's still walking around.
- 5:26Speaker 1: It's annoying to me to say the least, that we
- 5:34Speaker 1: have one set of legal standards that are applied so unevenly,
- 5:46Speaker 1: even by you know what hour. I'm going to talk
- 5:49Speaker 1: to you like we're in the same club here our
- 5:51Speaker 1: side of the fence. I just don't get it now,
- 6:01Speaker 1: I know, Zach you or not? Are you? Were you?
- 6:04Speaker 1: I mean, when the whole Santo's thing was happening, before
- 6:06Speaker 1: he went to court, before he was charged before did
- 6:10Speaker 1: you have any opinions on the guy? Did you want
- 6:12Speaker 1: a conviction? Did were you surprised he got? What was it?
- 6:16Speaker 1: Eight years total?
- 6:17Speaker 2: I don't I don't know what the sentencing guidelines were
- 6:21Speaker 2: for something like that, but obviously he lied. He got
- 6:23Speaker 2: caught for it. So when he went to jail, I
- 6:25Speaker 2: was like, well, you went to jail, you got caught.
- 6:28Speaker 2: You were lying profusely. The thing about Trump getting him
- 6:32Speaker 2: out of jail, it just seemed to come out of nowhere.
- 6:34Speaker 2: And I don't understand where it came from or why
- 6:38Speaker 2: he decided to do it now, or if it just
- 6:40Speaker 2: doesn't mean anything. I don't know. I don't know, but no,
- 6:42Speaker 2: he should. He should definitely pay for what he did
- 6:45Speaker 2: because he broke the law.
- 6:47Speaker 1: But getting the optics of it, how does this look
- 6:49Speaker 1: to people when you're preaching law and order and sending
- 6:51Speaker 1: I used to these cities and sending in the National
- 6:53Speaker 1: Guard to cities. You're you're talking about law and order
- 6:56Speaker 1: to release someone from their They're just sentenced, whether you
- 7:02Speaker 1: know what. If you think it was too long, that's
- 7:04Speaker 1: up to him and his lawyers to appeal, not for
- 7:08Speaker 1: someone in power to wipe clean for him. And I
- 7:12Speaker 1: had people say that too, well, he was sentenced to
- 7:14Speaker 1: the maximum amount. You've got people out here who should
- 7:16Speaker 1: have been in prison longer for what they did. That
- 7:18Speaker 1: didn't even get close to that. Yeah, that's true. That's true.
- 7:22Speaker 1: And if you want to stand by that argument, then
- 7:25Speaker 1: you need to stand by the argument of every black
- 7:28Speaker 1: drug dealer that was convicted in the nineties for selling,
- 7:31Speaker 1: you know, five grams of crack and getting twenty years
- 7:34Speaker 1: in prison when the white guy in the sports car
- 7:37Speaker 1: was selling five kilos of powdered cocaine and getting two years.
- 7:43Speaker 1: Because we went through that period of time too, justice
- 7:49Speaker 1: is not always balanced, and that is frustrating, I admit that,
- 7:57Speaker 1: but we can't go back and rewrite things. He went
- 8:00Speaker 1: to court, he was charged, he was convicted, he was sentenced,
- 8:05Speaker 1: and to have him not held accountable, especially since he
- 8:14Speaker 1: deceived the American electorate, I mean, Donald Trump running on
- 8:18Speaker 1: integrity and elections was a big deal. To spring this
- 8:24Speaker 1: guy early when he misled the voting public. That that
- 8:32Speaker 1: is pretty outrageous to at least as far as I'm concerned.
- 8:36Speaker 1: But again, I'm open to to your thoughts. A two
- 8:38Speaker 1: one nine eight eight six A two one WTV and
- 8:40Speaker 1: let's get a few in here before we go to
- 8:41Speaker 1: our first break. Rick, you are on six to ten DOUBLETV.
- 8:44Speaker 3: And hight Ty there, No, I'm with you. I couldn't
- 8:47Speaker 3: believe it either, But I think he did more than live.
- 8:52Speaker 3: Didn't he misappropriate or I guess, to put it more bluntly,
- 8:57Speaker 3: steal money and use it for the you know, more
- 9:01Speaker 3: than avery pologist life.
- 9:03Speaker 1: Yet political funds, charitable funds for some animal charity that
- 9:08Speaker 1: ended up going into his pocket, and yeah, all kinds
- 9:11Speaker 1: of ridiculous stuff.
- 9:13Speaker 3: But I'm you know, it's been years now, but when
- 9:17Speaker 3: he was first running, I think that he was. He
- 9:19Speaker 3: was a nut job. But I think they needed a
- 9:21Speaker 3: Republican so they everybody look the other way. They needed
- 9:27Speaker 3: a Republican and you know, so they're letting you know,
- 9:30Speaker 3: essentially the Republican establishment somehow or another guy been there.
- 9:35Speaker 1: You know that. Rick, That's an excellent point too. And
- 9:38Speaker 1: now your opinion, let me ask you this. Let's say
- 9:41Speaker 1: you are the you know, the Grand Pooba of the
- 9:43Speaker 1: Republican Party. Is it better to have a bad Republican
- 9:48Speaker 1: candidate than to have no Republican candidate on the ballot.
- 9:51Speaker 3: I don't think so, but I don't either. But we're
- 9:55Speaker 3: on the wrong side obviously.
- 9:57Speaker 1: If you're not going to do the job with the
- 9:59Speaker 1: integrity that we claim to represent. That I don't. I
- 10:02Speaker 1: don't think you should have the backing. No, I agree.
- 10:06Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Rick, thanks very much for the call.
- 10:08Speaker 1: Nine eight eight six A two one WTV. Yeah. I
- 10:11Speaker 1: mean when you when you lied about absolutely everything, and
- 10:17Speaker 1: he did to be able to walk away after after
- 10:22Speaker 1: deceiving the public and getting the votes and getting the position,
- 10:27Speaker 1: just ridiculous. And yes he ran as a Republican, which
- 10:33Speaker 1: the President pointed out, well, what do you have that
- 10:36Speaker 1: quote by chance in front of you, Zach, where he
- 10:38Speaker 1: said at least he did some bad things, but at
- 10:40Speaker 1: least he had the good sense to run as a Republican.
- 10:44Speaker 1: I just thought that was a bad thing because so
- 10:45Speaker 1: many people questioned Donald Trump, who had been a registered
- 10:49Speaker 1: registered Democrat at one point, although he's we've got him
- 10:53Speaker 1: on video back to the early eighties saying that if
- 10:56Speaker 1: he ever ran for president, he would run as a Republican.
- 11:00Speaker 1: But the optics combined with that, that kind of flippant
- 11:05Speaker 1: response to the situation, that's a little annoying to people too,
- 11:12Speaker 1: because they don't want you to say yeah nah. They
- 11:15Speaker 1: wanted very serious at least I believe they do a
- 11:19Speaker 1: serious response to something like this, and flippant doesn't work,
- 11:28Speaker 1: at least not for me. A two one nine eight
- 11:32Speaker 1: eight six A two one w TV and let's get
- 11:33Speaker 1: married on the Legacy Retirement Group dot com fine line
- 11:36Speaker 1: phone lines marry Europe. How are you?
- 11:39Speaker 4: I thinks good? How are you?
- 11:41Speaker 1: Uh? The frustrated but fine?
- 11:44Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I just turned it on. So I don't
- 11:47Speaker 4: know how much you discussed this. And I saw that
- 11:49Speaker 4: headline and I shook my head. I couldn't believe it's
- 11:52Speaker 4: just like you. But you know what, I think we
- 11:56Speaker 4: put up with this. This is the problem we you know,
- 11:59Speaker 4: even the fact that politicians lie to us. We have
- 12:02Speaker 4: allowed it to happen, you know, over many years. And
- 12:07Speaker 4: you know, this is why we're in the place we're in.
- 12:10Speaker 4: We can't lie to Congress, but oh they can lie
- 12:12Speaker 4: to us, you know, because we keep re electing them.
- 12:16Speaker 4: And you know, it's just even the fact that these
- 12:19Speaker 4: congressmen are receiving a paycheck when they shut the government
- 12:22Speaker 4: down and everyone else doesn't get one. Is this this problematic?
- 12:27Speaker 1: Yeah? It's it is. And I had John hough staid
- 12:30Speaker 1: on with me last week. He is one of two
- 12:32Speaker 1: that I know. If you're in the state of Ohio
- 12:33Speaker 1: that have actually made formal recrets to not be paid
- 12:36Speaker 1: until this is over with. And I was I was
- 12:38Speaker 1: very happy to see that because I haven't seen haven't
- 12:42Speaker 1: seen any other members of the legislature around the country
- 12:44Speaker 1: do that except what's what's our guy from Bowling Green Zach.
- 12:49Speaker 1: I can't call his name off at the top of
- 12:51Speaker 1: my head, but he.
- 12:53Speaker 4: There's a woman. There's a woman who also did it.
- 12:55Speaker 4: I forget I heard her. I think she was on
- 12:58Speaker 4: Sean Hannity. I think it. I I'm not sure what
- 13:00Speaker 4: state she's from, but it begins with l e t
- 13:04Speaker 4: is her her name let Low or something like that.
- 13:07Speaker 4: I think she was going to do the same thing.
- 13:09Speaker 4: But again, why aren't people promoting this and let and
- 13:12Speaker 4: and kind of shaming the Democrats about this and everyone else?
- 13:16Speaker 4: You know, it's it's again, we have we have allowed this.
- 13:20Speaker 4: I I I worked with the guy from Iowa, and
- 13:23Speaker 4: I was all frustrated. This was back in eighth nine.
- 13:27Speaker 4: You know, why did they lie about Obamacare? Why did
- 13:29Speaker 4: they lie about this?
- 13:30Speaker 1: He's like, why are you.
- 13:31Speaker 4: Getting so upset the politicians? They lie? I said, yeah,
- 13:34Speaker 4: since when are we okay with that? You know what
- 13:37Speaker 4: I mean, it's just like it's it's really just a
- 13:40Speaker 4: shame and and and with this whole thing with Santos,
- 13:44Speaker 4: they should be held to a higher standard. Anyone who
- 13:48Speaker 4: works in the government should be held to a hired standard.
- 13:52Speaker 4: They should get a worse punishment than the rest of us.
- 13:57Speaker 1: I'm in my opinion, I'm with you, Mary, thank you
- 13:59Speaker 1: very much for the Oh, I appreciate you. A two
- 14:01Speaker 1: one nine eight eighty six A two one WTV. And
- 14:03Speaker 1: it's uh uh, it is a frustration. I mean, that's
- 14:08Speaker 1: that's that's all I can say without sounding like I'm angry,
- 14:13Speaker 1: and I I am angry, but it's a controlled anger,
- 14:17Speaker 1: if you will. The idea that we claim as a party,
- 14:24Speaker 1: as a group of humans, we claim to stand for
- 14:30Speaker 1: integrity in government, in in legislation, in elections and uh
- 14:40Speaker 1: and then someone like this is is allowed to walk
- 14:43Speaker 1: away from their their duly acute, adjudicated sentence. It just
- 14:49Speaker 1: it really bugs me.