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Shocking Report Details How Elites Use Cartels & Blackmail to Control USA — Sarah Westall Interview · Man in America Podcast

• 1:31
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host Seth Wholehouse. As we look around in our society and we see all of these different individuals, organizations, groups, companies, corporations align themselves with a demonic evil, luciferian agenda, whether it's pushing for child mutilation, whether it's silencing conservative voices, whether it's promoting abortion, any number of things, we have to ask ourselves how's that control mechanism working? Who's causing all these organizations to work in lockstep, in unison to push the same agenda? And especially when you look at the agendas that actually hurt America, and you look at that judge that tosses out the case about election fraud or refuses to hear something else that that's really, really important for our country or the governor that completely shreds up the constitution, you ask yourself, why are they doing that?
• 2:36
  They live in America too. Do they want America just to descend into chaos? But according to my guest today, Sarah Westall, friend and someone who I listen to often and my wife is a big fan of as well. This a lot of this information is detailed in this 150,000 page report that was presented in Arizona. And while a lot of people may have brushed over the story because they thought it was about the Arizona election fraud, What Sarah is talking about here is something much, much bigger and how this report actually reveals these mechanisms, these invisible strings that control our society.
• 3:13
  So folks enjoy this interview with Sarah Westall. Sarah, it's so great to have you back on. We had just a wonderful conversation the first time you're on and, you know, my I listen to you here and there as I get time. My wife listens to most of your interviews, so it's not uncommon come home from the studio and she's there cooking and I hear your voice in the background. So it's just, it's nice to nice to have you here.
• 3:39
  Thank you so much for being here.
• 3:42
  Speaker 2: You're welcome for inviting me. Thank you.
• 3:44
  Seth Holehouse: Absolutely. Absolutely. So, you know, you're, I think, in a very similar kind of position of looking at the battlefield as I am, where you are the person that gets to sit and talk to all of these experts. And I find that what's really amazing about that is that it gives you the ability to see this really, really broad picture and to connect the dots because so much of what we see happening around us is every people are looking at things through silos. And I also I think it's also the way that the media controls the narrative because they'll cover a topic, but they'll cover just one silo of the topic.
• 4:28
  And so for a lot of people, they think they know everything about it. They think they know enough about it to just move on. But there's so much there's so much way deeper than that. And so what we're gonna talk about today, is is something that's very fascinating is that is the Breger Report, which is something that I've done only a little bit of research into. But I know that you've interviewed a lot of people that have been involved in this.
• 4:51
  And for the listeners and watchers of the show that aren't familiar with that, perhaps they remember, you know, was it earlier this year when this information came out about the cartels being involved in the elections in Arizona. That seems to be the story. That was the few of the key words of the stories, cartel money, elections in Arizona. But I think that when you look at it, you kind of pull back and you look at what's happening in the country, you look at the open border, you look at all the illegal immigrants, you look at the money laundering, you look at the election system. There's a much bigger story here that I think that a lot of people don't see.
• 5:34
  But I think that you see it. That's why you continue to focus on it. So why don't you just walk us through just like I think the basics of what this report are, you know, are, this Brager report, but really the broader conclusions and the information that comes out of it that paints a picture of what's really going on in our country.
• 5:57
  Speaker 2: Well, yes, I that's why you're exactly right. You've summarized it really well and why I kept following it. I first learned about it from Dave Hodges and Paul Preston, and they were saying, is this absolutely legit? Dave Hodges lives in Maricopa County and he kept talking about it. So I go, well, I want to bring him on and talk about it.
• 6:16
  And then after I dug into it, did, I've interviewed representative Liz Harris from Arizona. And then I've also interviewed Jacqueline Breger and John Thaler on this topic. And so I've interviewed five different people on this, and I've learned a lot about it. Plus I've read through the actual parts of the presentation. Watched you, Jacqueline Breger gave a presentation in front of the Arizona Congress, both the Senate and the representatives came together and they were doing a committee meeting on trying to get to the bottom of election and, you know, election integrity.
• 6:50
  And they wanted to find out what was really going on. And so Jacqueline Breger came and got this report and Liz Harris set it up for her to talk. And she was a member of the committee. She wasn't the head of the committee. She got it approved by everybody for them to talk.
• 7:06
  She thought they were gonna talk about A through C, as she told me, and they talked about A through Z, whole bunch more than they were expecting. And it was a bombshell, to say the least, that dropped in Arizona. After this happened, and I'm gonna talk a little bit about what more a lot more about what she actually presented. But after it happened, the media just went to town. It was like, it was an operation to clean it up.
• 7:31
  And they smeared the Jacqueline Berger and John Thaler and Liz Harris, who was a representative that pinned it on, she ended up being expelled from her position as a representative in the house of representatives in Arizona, blamed the whole thing on her, said it was all fraud and bunk and just made up. And she lost her position, even though she had the most votes. They voted again to replace her, but she ran again and got the most votes And they still didn't they put in this person who had the second most votes in her place because they claimed that there was a rule that whoever if somebody brought information that disparages others or accuses people of a crime who's a sitting office, they can be expelled. And so it was some archaic role, but the thing was is that she got it approved by everybody and she was just as blindsided as everybody else. But in her opinion, a big chunk of this is legit.
• 8:26
  She doesn't know because she needs to research the documents themselves. But these, the people that brought this and what this is, it's a, now it's over 150,000 page report that talks about blackmail money laundering, cartel money, how they're bribing judges and politicians. Not only that, that there's fake people like fake attorneys that are getting bar credentials, getting degrees, kind of like if you've seen the movie or the series Suits where the mic in suits has a fake law degree and a fake bar, you know, passing the bar. They just so there's a whole groups of people that are behind all these things that have these fake degrees and things. And he found that John Thaler found this through looking at documents.
• 9:15
  His own family was involved, his ex wife. So he kind of stumbled into this, but these two are not schmucks. They've smeared them in the public eye, but Jacqueline Breger has five degrees. She ran an insurance agency and she has a business and economics degree and like three other degrees. John Thaler has been doing this for over thirty three years.
• 9:35
  His whole focus was doing investigations on fraud, money laundering activities such as that with fortune 500 companies and with government agencies and cross border type problems. They kind of mess with the wrong person who, or the wrong person stumbled into this. And because it was a personal family thing, he didn't let it go when he dove into it because they ended up messing with this by abducting his child. There's this whole backstory ended up being what the media is using the smear room, but it's the reason why he actually became so passionate about figuring out what was going on. Because a normal person like this, first they wouldn't fund it, and second, they wouldn't devote this much time to it unless there was some personal passion behind it and he uncovered it.
• 10:21
  And it aligns with Mike Gill saying the same thing. Now he's from the East Coast and these guys are from more of the Western, you know, Arizona area, but this thing involves 26 states, the Breger investigation does, and probably much larger. They focused on Arizona because that's where they're giving the presentation. And it's one of the major hubs. But Mike Gill, who used to own the largest mortgage company in the country, is saying the same thing about how it's the scheme that they're using to bribe politicians, to bribe the judicial system, to the drug trafficking, the human trafficking, all this money.
• 11:01
  It's all part of this scheme. And by exposing this, we will start to understand how they have such a stranglehold on what's going on, why all the election rigging. No, it's not just a local cartel. I don't believe. I think that the cartel is also controlled and integrated into the US government and the central bankers.
• 11:24
  It's a bigger thing, but it illustrates their scheme. And the scheme is so important for us to understand so that we can start to dismantle this and get back to some kind of sanity. And so there's so much detail behind this and I can share some of that if you if you don't have any questions on just what I said so far. Hopefully that all makes sense. It's a kind of a complex situation.
• 11:49
  Seth Holehouse: Well, so you mentioned use the word scheme, right, which I look for these keywords that we can then build meaning on, right. So the scheme, which in my mind, I was visualizing this layer of something in our society that this this black hidden layer that allows them to when I say them, it's the the bad people, right, which which we can get into who they who they might be, but it allows them to control our society through this almost invisible hand. The same way that the mafia might have control over a politician or a local business owner. Right? Because it's it's these invisible threads they can pull.
• 12:29
  Right? And so when you say scheme, it sounds like that what this is revealing is a it's a glimpse into the mechanisms of how the deep state is controlling our society. So when we see judges or principals of schools or people on school boards or politicians, when we witness them openly taking actions that are anti American, such as the governor of New Mexico saying, you know what, the second amendment doesn't really matter and the constitution is up for interpretation, basically. It's an emergency. It's like, is that is it some woman that just doesn't like the constitution and she just doesn't like guns and so she has this personal vendetta?
• 13:16
  Or is it that she's being controlled by this scheme. And I think what's also important is that if if you tie into the cartels, one organization that has a massive amount of vested interest in the cartels and control of the cartels is the Chinese Communist Party. There's a reason why we've also got these military aged Chinese men flooding across the borders working hand in hand with the cartels. And so I think that kind of uncovering the rock or kind of lifting the rock and looking at the scheme and exposing it for what is is really, really important. Because I think that for so many of us, we look around and say, well, why is that school board person acting like this?
• 13:57
  Why is the teacher doing that? Why is the CEO of that business pushing this woke ideology, even though they know it's gonna destroy their business? Well, there's something, there's some other mechanism controlling them. And to me, that's what the story is about. The story is not about Arizona, actually, at all.
• 14:13
  I mean, maybe a little bit, the story is really about what we're looking at is is this glimpse into these mechanisms. And so when you're through your research, and let's kind of talk about this scheme. Let's let's paint the picture of what it is. If there is a a judge, let's just say there's a judge in, you know, Kansas, right, that is has decided to, let's just say that, as we see a lot lately, there's a an African American guy that rapes and kills somebody, and he gets sentenced for two years. Yet there's the white guy that, you know, did something else and gets twenty years.
• 14:50
  We're consistently seeing this that the judicial system is what I think the bigger goal of it is to try to create a race war. Because then these headlines get put out there and it fires up both sides, etc. So from what you're seeing with the cartels and the bribery and the blackmail, how are these mechanisms working? Hey, folks, I've got a quick message for you. So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver.
• 15:19
  But what's really behind that? Is it just a thing of, hey, buy this gold, buy this silver. Right? Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at? So I recently came across some figures about house prices.
• 15:31
  So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 2023, the average family home is just over $400,000. So you have to ask yourself, why is that? Is it because things have just gotten more expensive? No, it's actually because the dollar has lost 99% of its value since 1930.
• 15:51
  Right? When people talk about the collapse of the dollar or inflation, this is what it means. Now, let's take a look at gold. So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins. So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about $4,000.
• 16:11
  Now, if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside. If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today. What can you buy with $4,000? Can you buy a family home? No, you can't even buy a crappy used car.
• 16:29
  But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200 gold coins, 1 ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today. And this is the key lesson about precious metals. It's not about getting rich. It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now we're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver because what it's doing is it's protecting you.
• 17:13
  This is an asset that has stood the test of time, not just stood the test of time since the 1930s, we're talking about the rise and fall of civilizations. Gold was used to buy houses back in ancient Rome. It's still around. It's an asset that will forever have its value. So folks, if you want to do this and you need someone you can trust, there's no person I can recommend more than Doctor.
• 17:34
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• 18:04
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• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Well, think you nailed it on the head as far as it being this overall scheme and it's a control mechanism. Knew that blackmail was their method of currency of control, right? They like to have blackmail and people so they can control what they do. But for example, money laundering and it is kind of tied into also how they blackmail people. So let's say for example, there's a piece of land that's really worth $20,000 They sell it for $500,000 and launder $480,000 of that.
• 18:52
  And during that process, people are paid off or maybe someone's gets a big chunk of that money. So a politician or a judge, they're part of that process. And next thing you know, their real estate property that they should have just been given $20,000 for, they've been just given $500,000 for it. And in return, now they're siding with all these different cases. That's part of the money laundering thing.
• 19:24
  But there's also situations where they're passing, like, they'll have a an auditor who's not really an auditor because they're a fake straw person. And they got all these credentials in the databases and passed to have these college degrees that aren't real. And that's where I compared it to suits. And so there's, there's lawyers who aren't real. There's auditors who aren't real.
• 19:49
  There's people, there's doctors who aren't real. There's all these people who aren't real that they uncovered. And they it's it's this big scheme the thing that they told me that I push back on a little bit, but it makes a lot of sense. And that's why a lot of politicians are scared, and it's why we need to really look at this, is that they were saying that 7,600,000,000.0, just in Arizona, seven point six billion has been wandered through this system, and it's it's fundamentally affected the Arizona economy. You know, Arizona is one hub, if you will.
• 20:26
  And so there's multiple hubs around the country. And so to shut this down and to dismantle it, John Thaler was arguing that it would be such a destructive force on the local economy of Arizona that it would bankrupt or it would crash their local economy. People would have to pay more taxes. It would be devastating to the average person in Arizona. I push back on that.
• 20:50
  And I say, if you get high enough more educated business people in there, educated or smart business people who understand, have the courage to solve it, you can't have the average politician. You need people who really understand it, the money part of it. You can actually, by getting rid of this, Arizona could be more prosperous in the long run. So the cost of this kind of corruption in the short run is, way more. You know, the the destruction in the short run is way less than the destruction over time, and you will eventually prosper more.
• 21:25
  And that's very proven when you look at corruption over time and how much corruption affects we look at our fentanyl and human trafficking, everything, just horrible. And, and so that's one of the reasons too, is that these local economies are, they're so tied into it that they're afraid to pull it out. The thing that's a bright spot is that there are other states around who aren't tied into it. Their economies aren't as integrated into this drug trafficking, human trafficking, you know, the government's not totally entwined. And so they're just suffering from the side effects of all the human trafficking, the fentanyl deaths, the, you know, all the things that we're seeing and covering, they're suffering from it and they're not benefiting from it.
• 22:10
  And so those other states can push back and say, heck no, we're not going to support this. And so there are, if we can, enough people are aware of this scheme, then it can be the social pressure coming from the rest of the country who aren't benefiting from it could be a huge bonus. But there are a bunch of states who are integrated into this. And to clean it up is gonna be one heck of an exercise, but you have to understand and you have to look at it straight in the face, look at these documents, understand what's really going on in order to fix it. Right?
• 22:47
  And it is a bigger scheme in the sense that there are bigger players involved. It's why I mean, you can't have the whole mass media and of the entire country and the whole Western world supporting it and and hiding it if there wasn't a bigger game going on. But you have to deal with the game as at the local level in order to solve the bigger problem. You have to take down this criminal syndicate in order to solve this problem. And if China's involved, we have to you know, when people keep pointing to China, I like to push back.
• 23:18
  Not that China isn't involved in messing us up. I of course they are. We have to we but we're a large country with a lot of resources. We can protect our own. It's kinda like COVID.
• 23:30
  China didn't shut down our our force our universities to have all the students get jabs. They didn't shut down our economy. We did that. Maybe we're blackmailed through this control scheme, but we still did it. And so there's solace in this fact, and there's hope in the fact that we still can have control over our own country by just taking back control and ending this.
• 23:54
  But it starts with understanding it.
• 23:57
  Seth Holehouse: And I think it's a good point that that's true with really any kind of boogeyman that we create, whether it's China or the WEF or the European bankers. I think that it's easy to get so focused on that and forget that well, were we going along with it? Was I wearing a mask? Was my, you know, conservative uncle, you know, running off to do X because Fauci told him to and so it's like, you know, whether Fauci is being controlled by Klaus Schwab, you know, or Xi Jinping or, you know, one of the Rockefellers, it doesn't really matter because if we're if we're going along, then it's we're allowing that to happen. And so it what's interesting though is that, I mean, I think that part of the kind of the process of the Great Awakening, right, the way that this realization, I think for a lot of people, you know, so let's rewind ten, fifteen, twenty years ago, maybe there's this idea that there's some bad people in the world and there's some criminals, but they're kind of low level.
• 24:56
  But I think that like what this awakening is, it's really realizing that I think in many ways, that it's like our society is is here. But there's layers upon layers upon layers upon layers of criminal organizations and criminal enterprises that go, like, far beyond the presidential level, where even the presidential level is just a puppet level. As you get into the, you know, the corporations, corporatocracy, the economic hitmen, the alphabet agencies, military industrial complex, the banking system, the I mean, it just it gets so deep. And it's this realization that our world in many ways is run by criminals. And they're not just criminals that, you know, like, they want to get really rich because they're greedy.
• 25:47
  I mean, are people that will will kill life and think nothing of it. And so, but you you also you bring up a really, really important point though in saying that you have to understand how to address these things locally. And that's a really important point because I think that a lot of people can get really, really caught up and going down the rabbit holes of the 13 bloodlines and who's controlling this and, you know, who's Obama really and where is he actually trained and we can we can get really caught up in that. But understanding how like, what's the level that I'm closest to that I can interact? I think that's what this represents.
• 26:23
  This, this scheme is that I think that for people that are in these, say 20 some odd states, which is probably many more states. It's like this. Yep. This invisible hand that's controlling is all around us.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the important thing is, okay, this is what we can clean up. Because if all of us clean up all these local things, the whole puzzle is put together then. Right? The puzzle, this great global scheme is just individual puzzle pieces at the local level. You put all those puzzle pieces together, and that's the whole global scheme.
• 26:56
  So if all of us take care of our puzzle piece, we can end this global reign of terror on us. But we have to address at the local levels. It's difficult because so much of the money that affects our local environments are tied into this. Smart business people can solve this. People who don't want their children to be affected by this in the long run can help solve this.
• 27:22
  Yeah. It's dangerous. Like you were saying that, you know, they're not afraid to kill people. Well, we just went through COVID. They're trying to depopulate, but they're not afraid to kill people.
• 27:31
  John Thaler's had his life, at risk six times. They almost killed one of his clients because they thought he was him. And then they realized it wasn't him. And then they got scared and spooked and they were dressed as local police officers and maybe they got paid off. I don't know, but they were the local police officers that came in to be the thugs.
• 27:51
  And they're not sure. I asked John, were they the true police officers from the local area or were they just dressed like it? He didn't know. But the point is, is that it is a local situation. It's a bunch of local situations working its way up to be one big global situation.
• 28:10
  And that's what we need to understand. We don't need to overcomplicate it in that way. But we got to decouple ourselves from the money scenario and figure out ways to be self sufficient so that we aren't dependent on some other person or some other entity that is controlling our purse strings and have no skin in the game at the local level. We need to decouple that so that we have a more control over the money situation, and the local governments can do that. There are methods of doing that, but you first gotta clean up all this corruption in the process of doing that as well, I guess, if the if the local corruption is tied into the money that's affecting your area.
• 28:53
  You can't give up and say it's too big. You you can't. Not when we have all these people dying of fentanyl. My daughter has four people around her who she's, you know, a 22 college student and she's just ready to graduate. She's a fifth year, it's her last semester.
• 29:09
  But she said four people around her die of fentanyl overdose. You know, people that she knows, maybe not her good friends, but holy buckets, that's a lot of people. And so that's what we're dealing with is so the ramifications of letting this go on is, is just not acceptable. And these are all young people. It's not acceptable to allow this to continue.
• 29:35
  And so you just make such good points on this, then we just have to make sure we don't get so overwhelmed with these 13 families. Yeah, they're probably the ones, Soros, we know Soros is funding 500 Gen Z, you know, social media warriors to mess up our culture, and they're just totally brainwashed. So Soros is behind that. All these big players are behind that, but we can push back at the local levels. And and like I said, the puzzle pieces all come together to form one big picture.
• 30:09
  Seth Holehouse: So I wanna touch upon the the money because you mentioned in this report talking about, you know, over $7,000,000,000 that have been laundered into Arizona and how if that money disappeared, what how it would change the economy. What's it's funny because my wife and I just recently watched American Made. It's the Tom Cruise movie where he it's based upon the true story of the guy that was working with the CIA doing massive drug trafficking from South America. It tied into the Iran Contra Iran Contra scandal, tied into the Clintons because it was, I think, you know, Deep South. And it was what was crazy though is that in this guy's town where all this money was flowing in, it went from being this like closed down, bordered up town to being this wealthy town full of banks and but it was all laundered money that had come in.
• 31:00
  And that's a great scenario for this. So basically, if I understand that mechanism, because this is really important, that you look at human trafficking, you look at the drug problems, look at and you think why, you know, why is it that, you know, they can stop me from going to a grocery store if I'm not wearing a mask, or they can lock down churches across the nation, yet they can't stop human trafficking, they can't stop fentanyl from coming across the borders. And yet, you know, you have to get to the point where you realize that, well, because they're doing it, because they make money from it. And that's, that's one of the key points is that that that $7,000,000,000, that's children being sold for sex or for organs. It's fentanyl being sold to kids killing them.
• 31:48
  It's kidnappings. It's extortion. It's basically it's that money through these laundering mechanisms entering into that society. Right? Like that's what it It's
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: not the most innocent. Yeah. It's not just drugs. Right? I mean, just it's the worst of the worst.
• 32:07
  And you can excuse it by just saying it's drugs, but it's not just that. It's the fentanyl that's killing people everywhere. It's the babies and human traffic. You know, all the baby, a three year old's a baby in my mind, and all these little ones that are babies, children, 85,000 missing kids for God's sake. It's bigger than that.
• 32:29
  There's a soul searching that we have to do and say, you know what? I might live well, but do we wanna live on the backs of that? I mean, how evil is that? Yeah, there are towns that are flourishing. So basically you have to say, okay, that's why people say, you know, we want to legalize prostitution or we want to legalize drugs and say, okay, we'll have a certain amount of stuff that's legal so we can still flourish.
• 32:51
  And then, but you guys have to come to your own conclusion and soul searching on that, but you have to end the bad, the really bad stuff. And you you can't allow there's one thing about drugs. There's one thing about prostitution. You guys can argue that all day long, but you cannot argue the fentanyl issue. You cannot argue the fact that these elections are rigged.
• 33:14
  Are you really okay with them putting in the politicians that they want so they can keep getting away with this human trafficking and fentanyl poisoning? I mean, Carrie Lake, for example, they're afraid to put her in because she would address some of these issues. They can't have somebody in there who would actually address these issues or is a wild card that they can't control. And that's why we're seeing just the blatant election rigging. It's so obvious.
• 33:43
  I mean, anybody that doesn't see it is you question their ability to critically think, right? Maybe they can't critically think anymore because the mass media has told you how to think. I had Thomas All House on, he's this Hollywood Producer, we were talking about, or Hollywood Script Writer, and we're talking about the the Neuralink and and how he he he claims he wrote the matrix trilogy. And here's a lot of evidence to show. And I've come to a conclusion.
• 34:14
  I think he probably did. And that he's been messed with with Hollywood and they stole it from him and things, but he talked about Neuralink. And I thought this was really an interesting point. And he says, Sarah, Neuralink is a problem because once you get yourself hooked up on Neuralink and that, that where it feeds your brain thoughts, your brain atrophies, and you can no longer think for yourself. And we talked about how mass media and social media is actually doing that without attaching physically attaching you to a neural link.
• 34:46
  It's actually helping you make decisions to the point where you can't think and critically think for yourself. I think there's a huge portion of our population. That's why we're all like scratching our heads on how people didn't understand COVID. You know, how can you not see that an experimental vaccine when there's other treatments that work and this one is experimental and hurting people and there's other treatments that work ninety nine point nine percent of the time and you're still doing that? I mean, you scratch your head that people are that incapable of thinking.
• 35:19
  Seth Holehouse: Alright, folks. I've got a quick message for you. I have one simple question. If today you could no longer go purchase more food for your family with the food stores that you have in your home, how long would you be able to feed your family? Would it be a week, three weeks, a month, two months, a year?
• 35:39
  This is a really important question folks that we have to be very realistic about because the elites are proactively trying to put us into a state of food crisis and a state of famine. I'm sure you've seen all of the different food processing plants and farms that are blowing up. You've got cattle dying by the tens of thousands. They're proactively trying to collapse our food system because they know if they can control our food, they can control us. And so one of the best ways to be outside of their control is to be able to have our own stores of food and to be able to produce our own food.
• 36:11
  So there's really two things I would recommend. One is having heirloom seeds that you can grow your own food with, making sure that they're non GMO heirloom seeds that that way you can harvest your seeds this year, use them next year. You can use these seeds for generations. Literally, it's how it will work. The other thing though is this high quality storable food.
• 36:31
  This is food that's sitting somewhere, it's hidden in your basement, buried in your backyard, whatever it ever it is. So that way if there is a crisis, if there is an emergency, you might have three months set aside to get through that time period. And so for this, I would highly recommend a company called Heaven's Harvest. This is an amazing Christian owned patriot company, and what they're doing is they're making high quality storable food. Again, lot of the food companies, they say these food buckets, they're all about maximizing calories per dollar.
• 37:01
  They're filling the buckets with a bunch of filler and junk like sweet beverages, etcetera. But Heaven's Harvest, they focus on very high quality food that will last up to twenty five years on the shelf. They also sell heirloom seeds. You can buy all of your seed, you can buy all of your restorable food. And look folks, personally, I would recommend having at least three months per person in your household, if not six months or even a year.
• 37:26
  Again, depends on your budget, but I'll definitely make sure you have some seeds because that seed those seeds could be worth their weight in gold, if not more in the future. So to go ahead and do this right now, go up a new tab and go to heavensharvest.com. And if you use the promo code Seth, that's s e t h, promo code Seth, you'll save 15% off of your entire order. So again, folks, the time is running out and you'd rather be three months or one year early than one day late. Again, heavensharvest.com and use promo code Seth to save 15% today.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I think it's truly this this, they've learned how to psychologically control people through media and social media. And there's a segment of our population that just simply cannot critically think anymore because it doesn't make sense. And so the rest of us who still can critically think need to be hyper aware that they're trying to do that to you on an ongoing basis. And we just have to be aware of it. The first step of of keeping them from doing that to us is to be aware that that's what they're doing.
• 38:36
  Seth Holehouse: And I think that that's that's such a key point. And and for whatever reason it makes me think of Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars, where they talk about distracting people, dumbing down the education, getting people, you know, taking Hollywood entertainment down to a third grade level. They talk about these things that because, you know, let's go back two hundred years ago, know, or you know, we watch Little House in the Prairie a lot, my three, you know, two and a half, almost three year old, she loves it. And she, we watch Prairie, we watch Prairie, it's, know, and but if you look at how the people act at that time, know it was just Hollywood depicting things, but it was based upon the real books by, you know, Laura Ingalls Wilder, and it's, that was how humans used to be. They they were all critical thinkers.
• 39:21
  You had to be if you wanted to live, right? It just that was the way of life, but they've gotten us into this really this matrix that it's like Neuralink is already here, right? That's what I'm kind of hearing from you. It's it's already here. It was here a while ago.
• 39:34
  Our brains are already being controlled by some digital programming and digital infrastructure that's controlling how we think and how we vote and how we form our opinions and how we decide our health care issues. And I mean, it's already here, but, you know when you when you drill down into this and you look at you talk about these horrendous crimes committed to children and drug trafficking and all this, I feel like that when we look around our society and we see you know, one one level deeper than the surface, actually, now you see it on the surface, you look at Sam Smith and the state of the Luciferian agenda everywhere, but you see how much evil this there is, you know, earlier we're talking about, you know, the CCP or these these external enemies and and how to a certain degree we're giving them control by putting everything onto them. But I also look at the evil all around us in our society and it makes me think how many of us that are actually good people have weakened or have diluted our moral compass to a point where we've allowed this evil to flourish?
• 40:41
  I mean, how did America with the with the with the foundation of such upright principles and and the I I really like it was, you know, God's hand in the founding of this country with these Judeo Christian values. How did America get to a point where it's it's like Sodom and Gomorrah? I mean, to a certain extent, we've allowed it,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: you
• 41:02
  Seth Holehouse: know, we've allowed it ten, twenty, thirty, you know, thirty years ago, say twenty years ago, I was the one listened to ACDC Highway to Hell, you know, banging my head. That, you know, I played a role in that unbeknownst to me, but we've we've in a lot of ways we've allowed this to happen. So how do we flip that and then unallow it to happen, right? That's to me, that's a big question.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: It is a big question because the alternative is what I'm describing, you know, this whole scheme and this our whole country is on the line. Elections aren't even remotely fair, and remotely real if this is the whole scheme behind it. And if your elections aren't real, then what is real? Right? I mean, it's you did that election.
• 41:51
  We both did a documentary or some show was right when, the rigging of Donald Trump happened and it was so obvious. Yours I mine went viral. Yours went viral. Donald Trump even pointed to yours because it was just so obvious that this happened. And I, you know, I was, I had like this group of 500 computer scientists and mathematicians across the country and this guy was handle was Truman and he was organizing it.
• 42:17
  Was on the phone with him and we were talking and nobody, everybody ignored these guys. We had the best mathematician and computer scientists across the country analyzing all this. They figured out to the county level on every single race, what was going on. This Truman guy, his family, two of the members of his family were killed and he backed off and kind of the organization kind of dissolved and things and was really sad. But this is real.
• 42:44
  There are people who are smart. It's not that complex when you look at the computers stuff behind it, you know, the rigging, election rigging. It's not that complex to hold a fair election. And so it is it as long as the media and and honest people would actually look at this, we can solve these problems. They're not that complex, especially the election rigging.
• 43:06
  The complexity is the fear and the brainwashing. How do we get other people to overcome their fear and overcome the brainwashing? I think we're close. I think there's a new dawn. I think the awakening is happening and people are tired of it.
• 43:20
  When you have people who are close to you, when everybody knows somebody who's died from the jab, who has side effects, who's died from fentanyl, whose businesses were shut down and lost their businesses during COVID. When everybody's affected like this, people start waking up and they wake up in droves. And I think that's what's happening. And I think that's why they're actually getting kind of nervous. They're getting kind of scarce because they don't know what to do.
• 43:45
  They don't know what to do with the populace that, or a large percentage of us who are starting to get it. Unfortunately, there's a percentage of us that I don't think will ever get it. And I don't know what to do with them. I think we just kind of have patience and let's try to wake them up. But the ones who do get it, we have to be active.
• 44:04
  And it means at the local levels to solve these issues. And we will. I I really believe that we're really making progress.
• 44:12
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, I think that I certainly agree. And I think that the real progress is that awakening. You know, if we say fast forward to 2024, will they be able to steal the election again? Well, they'll certainly try it. Think their game plan is to not allow election to happen, you know, who knows what.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: I've heard that too.
• 44:34
  Seth Holehouse: But I think that fundamentally, this entire war, you know, boils down into a very simple principle. It's good versus evil. Evil is a lie. Like the evil in of itself is is false. It's this lie.
• 44:49
  It's the original lie that Lucifer is actually the king and that and that Christ was the impostor. It's original lie, right, that everything else, you know, Satan's the father of lies. And so I think that that's what I think that's what the great awakening is. It's these people that are realizing, wow, those are all lies, and then they find the truth. And I think that the, you know, the age old saying the truth will set you free that if we can just have more people, because it's complex.
• 45:19
  It's like, it's always what's the solution? What's the solution? Get involved locally, do this, do that. But I think fundamentally, we just have to have more people see the truth. And I think part of seeing the truth is choosing to reject the modern satanic agenda and return back to the moral way that I believe God intended for us to live.
• 45:40
  When the more that happens, I think the evil just loses their control, and they end up killing off I
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: think so. That's the whole point. The more you wake up, the more that, you know, because I don't have all the solutions, but I know collectively we do. And so the more people who wake up, the more people who are smart in positions of authority or positions to make a difference, wake up collectively. We make that change.
• 46:07
  We just keep putting roadblocks. End collectively. We're a force that they can't reckon with. They lose because and they become more and more desperate and become more and more obvious. Because I like to point to the elections because it was so obvious to anybody who was, could critically think that that was rigged.
• 46:27
  You know, with the Arizona one with Cary Lake, that it was so obvious to anybody who could critically think. COVID, anybody that could critically think it becomes so obvious that this is a situation that is just wrong. And so more people who wake up and the more desperate they become, and the more they do obvious things like that, that are just like, absurd. And they they are backed against a wall doing stupid crap. The problem is, and this is why we have to prepare and be ready for it, is they're gonna keep ratcheting it up and doing even dumber things.
• 47:05
  That's why they could suspend an election. They could do all sorts of things that we got to be ready for it. But the more of us who wake up and reject it and say, no, this isn't going to happen here. This is not happening here in my town. This is not happening here in my school.
• 47:22
  This is just not happening to my children. They won't be able to overcome that resistance. They just can't. We have more power than they do, but we have to have enough of us. And we gotta stop thinking about it as a Republican Democrat thing.
• 47:36
  I mean, I refuse to believe that Democrats wanted their their family killed with COVID due and want their kids killed with fentanyl. And even if their candidate was selected, I refuse to believe they want an unfair election for the ones who can critically think. That's why I think they're afraid of JFK or RFK Jr, because there's a whole army of Democrats who don't buy into that crap. And so he provides that alternative, and that's why they're totally afraid of him. Because I refuse to believe Democrats want to depopulate.
• 48:14
  You know, they're they're not that way. I mean, we disagree maybe on cultural issues. You might disagree with all sorts of things, but they're not that. There's a small segment that might be totally brainwashed, but the majority aren't that bad. Know, they're not they don't want their family getting killed.
• 48:31
  Seth Holehouse: I agree. Yeah, have a lot of family that are they're liberal, and they're good people. They're just they they believe certain lies that I've been blessed enough to see through at a certain stage in my life. And I think that fundamentally, you know, lot of people are praying, know, God save America, God save our nation. I think it's like, how about we make it a nation worth saving?
• 48:52
  To me, that's the solution. It's like, make America something that God looks down and says, gosh, it's become a good nation again. Let's keep it here on earth. Let's not let the satanic agenda destroy it and leave it in ruins. So, so Sarah, we're at
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: the end of
• 49:08
  Seth Holehouse: our our time today. But before I we wrap up though, I want to give people just a little quick preview of your website. So sarahwestall.com. We talked about just the importance of bringing truth to people. And that's something that you've aligned your entire life's mission about.
• 49:25
  So when folks visit sarahwestall.com, what are they going to find on there?
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: Well, they're going to see interviews that I've done with people like you who are just great. And then we have articles, it's a whole news site. So I have journalists that work with me and then myself and and we're just constantly writing and putting out information and articles and interviews and trying to be a whole a whole site that gives you different perspectives on things. I also have my own substack, sarahwessel.substack.com arch, which when I write an article or if I want to be, it's more of a personal thing, or I'll just put my own journalism up there. You can go there as well.
• 50:09
  But it's to give you different perspectives and to try to look at things differently. And the thing that's just so funny is that your cast is this far right nut job when I've never, I've always thought of myself as kind of just looking for truth and truth isn't left or right. Truth is truth. And that's where we got to get to. We got to stop this division and all this crap and just figure out what's really going on because that will save our country and all this infighting.
• 50:39
  And I realize it's really hard not to fight against people who are brainwashed, but you got to just keep hammering at the truth. And that's what I try to do.
• 50:50
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. Well, Sarah, thank you so much, not only for coming on the show today, but just for doing what you do. It's it's very important. And and to the people that are watching and listening, this is why it's important that, you one thing that you can do for those who ask is share this kind of content. You know, share this interview, go to Sarah's website, listen to her, go follow her on the podcast, share those files, know, go to follow your Rumble channel, share that.
• 51:14
  Because while you say you're, know, the friend that they're trying to wake up may not take the first one. But maybe after a couple times, say, you know what, there's some good stuff in there. And that's what we try to do. Like I think that's what you and I are both trying to do is create this library of content so that if someone's trying to bring themselves and awaken from that spell that there's this nice content that's not going to make fun of them or call them a Libtard or, you know, call them a vaccine zombie and allow them to slowly kind of exit from that slumber.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: That's right. Respectful and caring of others while you're trying to deal with this. And I just love your show. You're just doing amazing work. So thank you so much, Seth.
• 51:57
  I really appreciate it.
• 51:58
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, thank you for the kind compliment. Really appreciate it. And likewise to yourself as well. So, well, thanks again, and I look forward to next time.