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West Virginia Outdoors: Live from the 2025 Hunting & Fishing Show · WCHS Network Podcasts

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  Speaker 1: On five eight WCHS. The Voice of Charleston. This is
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  Speaker 1: a special edition of West Virginia Outdoors Live from the
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia Hunting and Fishing Show. Let's go live to
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  Speaker 1: the West Virginia DNR stage on the Great Hall floor.
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  Speaker 1: Here's West Virginia's Voice of the Outdoors, Chris Lawrence.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, everybody, Welcome in on five ADWCCHS. We are
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  Speaker 2: live this morning on the stage here at the Charleston
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  Speaker 2: Coliseum and Convention Center for the twenty twenty five West
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  Speaker 2: Virginia Hunting Fishing Show, Day two getting started right now.
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  Speaker 2: Even as we come on the air, the doors are opening.
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  Speaker 2: If you're on your way down today, appreciate you listening in, stop,
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  Speaker 2: buy and see us. We're going to be on the
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  Speaker 2: air here visiting with a number of the people involved
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  Speaker 2: in the show until noon here on five eight WCHS.
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  Speaker 2: And like I said this morning on West Virginia out Doors,
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  Speaker 2: it is almost a state law now that I cannot
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  Speaker 2: start any broadcast from this event without Glenn Jarrell of
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  Speaker 2: the West Virginia Trophy Hunters Association as guest number one.
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  Speaker 3: How you doing, Buddy, I'm doing great. Thanks again, Chris
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  Speaker 3: for coming down. You are the voice the West Virginia
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  Speaker 3: fishing boys. Well, I appreciate that voice of outdoors.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's worked out well that I've that I've started
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  Speaker 2: every show with you, They've all come off without a hedge.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that that's the key is to start
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  Speaker 2: with you absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: And I want to tell you, Chris, you did a
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  Speaker 3: great job yesterday. I just talked to one of the
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  Speaker 3: vendors that I came in to your legs who sells
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  Speaker 3: a saucy Oh yeah, he sold out yesterday evening.
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  Speaker 4: He cooked all night.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, so he's got the meat casey again.
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  Speaker 2: I bought. I bought a pack from him. That was
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  Speaker 2: my supper last night, A pack of those snacksticks with
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  Speaker 2: the cheddar. You can't beat those. And if you like
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  Speaker 2: the hot stuff is alipino. I'm told is that's not me,
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  Speaker 2: but the Jalipino. He has that as well, and it's
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  Speaker 2: pretty good. So yesterday we got things started to Saturday
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  Speaker 2: is always the big day here. People have been cooped
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  Speaker 2: up for the past what two weeks with ice and snow.
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  Speaker 2: We finally got some good weather and it's a great
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to come out and spend the day with the
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  Speaker 2: family here in an event that will probably have something
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  Speaker 2: for everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely what we do have, like I say, we have
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  Speaker 3: the food here. We have outfitter from all over the
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  Speaker 3: all over the place. If you want to book a
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  Speaker 3: bear hunt from Canada, the guys are here. If you
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  Speaker 3: want to book an elk hunt Annalee Punt, the western
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  Speaker 3: guys are well represented. We have fishing captains from the
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  Speaker 3: Great Lakes if you want to do any kind of
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  Speaker 3: fishing of whitewater.
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  Speaker 2: Ever, what it's here and exactly now I want to
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  Speaker 2: bring into the fold here a new voice from the show,
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  Speaker 2: and that's Tyler Roebuck. Is that? Do I say that correctly?
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Roebeck? Roadback? Tyler Roeback. Now he's also with the
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  Speaker 2: Trophy Hunters Association. And you are you in charge of
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  Speaker 2: the White Taill Hall of Fame? Are you just the
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  Speaker 2: last one hired and they sent you over here?
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  Speaker 5: I was the voluntold manager of the Whitetel Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 2: The volunt told it's interesting too, Glenn that the Trophy
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  Speaker 2: Hunters unlike other organizations in this state. I mean, you
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  Speaker 2: all obviously are a conservation organization as well, but this
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  Speaker 2: is your all thing is to put this show on
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  Speaker 2: and then the proceeds go to hunting and fishing, conservation
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  Speaker 2: as well as youth outdoor education.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, after we pay oliver bills, all the profit goes
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  Speaker 3: to organizations that promote outdoor activities. They promote conservation, anything
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  Speaker 3: to do with the outdoors, especially youth education.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Tyler, the Whitetail Hall of Fame. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if you were around when it was over in the
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  Speaker 2: in a separate room over here in the corner. But
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  Speaker 2: when they rebuilt the Civic Center, it's become part of
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  Speaker 2: the main floor. Here. It's in the and when you
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  Speaker 2: walk in the door, it's the far left corner. That's
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  Speaker 2: where the white Tail Hall of Fame is. How do
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  Speaker 2: you determine who gets to hang one on the wall
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  Speaker 2: over there?
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  Speaker 5: So there's a point scoring system. It's a minimum point
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  Speaker 5: requirement for archery of one ten and that's to be
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  Speaker 5: officially scored by the West Virginia dn R. And then
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  Speaker 5: one point thirty is the minimum for the rifle or
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  Speaker 5: gun section.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting too, these were not all killed in the
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  Speaker 2: past year. I mean many of these have been killed
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  Speaker 2: for years.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, then there's some mounts up there that are thirty
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  Speaker 5: thirty five years old, and people just keep bringing them
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  Speaker 5: back every year. And as long as you know it's
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  Speaker 5: in the d n R system that has been scored
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  Speaker 5: at some point, then they're allowed to hanging up.
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  Speaker 2: What is the what what do you get for hanging
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  Speaker 2: for bringing your mount down here and hanging it in
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  Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame? Is there a other than the
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  Speaker 2: prestige if your in the Hall of Fame. There's a
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  Speaker 2: few things. The biggest thing is a raffle.
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  Speaker 5: There's a drawing for both the archery and rifle categories
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  Speaker 5: for two hundred and fifty dollars gift card to Cabelli's.
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  Speaker 5: You also get a free T shirt and we're giving
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  Speaker 5: away some patches as well.
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  Speaker 2: I got you, I got you, and a lot of
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  Speaker 2: guys it's the same guys every year bringing their mouths in.
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  Speaker 5: There are some guys that bring the same five six
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  Speaker 5: deer in every year.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: And every time you bring you know, each head that
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  Speaker 5: you bring in that qualifies you get another opportunity to
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  Speaker 5: win the raffle tickets.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I'll just point out I don't have
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  Speaker 2: one hanging in there because I haven't I mean had
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  Speaker 2: to meet those minimum requirements. Glenn. You've got like eight
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  Speaker 2: back there, don't you.
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  Speaker 6: I will.
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  Speaker 3: Probably have to hit one of the car the only
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  Speaker 3: way I'd ever get.
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  Speaker 2: One back there. Thirty seven years we've been doing this show, Glenn. Well,
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  Speaker 2: you all have been doing it, not I. But I
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  Speaker 2: remember the first time I came to this show. I
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  Speaker 2: lived in Morgantown and I was not even the West
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  Speaker 2: Virginia Indoors didn't even exist. But I heard about it
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  Speaker 2: and I thought, I'm wanna go down there and give
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  Speaker 2: give that a try. It man, I was so impressed,
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  Speaker 2: and the way it is run is really cool. And
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  Speaker 2: then eventually, as I got the show developed and I
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  Speaker 2: came down and became a vendor, so to speak. The
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  Speaker 2: amount of help that your organization gives to vendors when
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  Speaker 2: they come here, that's talked about on the show circuit
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  Speaker 2: all over the country because a lot of these guys
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  Speaker 2: go from show to show to show and they don't
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  Speaker 2: get the kind of reception and hospitality that you all
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  Speaker 2: offer them.
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  Speaker 3: No, Chris, it's just West Virginia hospitality. That that's all
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  Speaker 3: it is. We meet them at the door, we try
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  Speaker 3: to help them find out where their booth is help
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  Speaker 3: them take everything to their booth and set it up.
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  Speaker 3: And it's just like Trevis and those guys they hang
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  Speaker 3: the mountains are very careful with them and to thank
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  Speaker 3: the people for bringing them. It's just West Virginia people,
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  Speaker 3: that's all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Tyler, it's good to meet you, man. And I hope,
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  Speaker 2: I hope I didn't grill you too hard about the
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  Speaker 2: White Tail Hall of Fame? Is there anything else that
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  Speaker 2: you want people to know about that when they come
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  Speaker 2: to see it today?
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  Speaker 5: Honestly, just just come take a look at it. You know,
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  Speaker 5: if you got things laying around the house, you know,
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  Speaker 5: mounts that you need or want people to see that
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  Speaker 5: you're proud of, you know, bring them up, get them scored.
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  Speaker 5: If they meet the you know the ones had the
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  Speaker 5: one thirty requirements, we'll hang it up on the wall
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  Speaker 5: and you get a chance to one.
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  Speaker 2: Of the Do they do they have to have been
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  Speaker 2: killed in West Virginia.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, Yes, that's another requirement that has to be killed
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  Speaker 5: in West Virginia.
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  Speaker 2: It's the West Virginia Hall of Fame. We get that
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  Speaker 2: question quite often. Yeah, exactly, Glenn Jerrell and Tyler Roeback,
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  Speaker 2: thanks so much. Guys and should be a good show
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  Speaker 2: this weekend. Thanks Chris, appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks Chris for having us.
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  Speaker 2: All right, thank you Glenn. We got to take into
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  Speaker 2: our first break of the morning. But when we come back,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to talk to the lady who has probably
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  Speaker 2: got the most popular booth here on the show floor.
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  Speaker 1: You're listening to a special edition of West Virginia Outdoors
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  Speaker 1: Live from the West Virginia Hunting and Fishing Show. Let's
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  Speaker 1: return to the show floor. Here's Chris Lawrence.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back. We're live at the West Virginia Hunting and
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  Speaker 2: Fishing Joe Charleston Coliseum on the West Virginia d n
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  Speaker 2: R stage. The doors are open and the show runs
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  Speaker 2: until nine o'clock tonight. By the way, this afternoon at
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  Speaker 2: five o'clock, it's the charity auction here on the d
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  Speaker 2: n R stage. They've asked me again to be the
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  Speaker 2: MC of that. That's always a lot of fun. Auctioneer
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  Speaker 2: Chad Strickland will be here. They get a lot of
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  Speaker 2: great items that you can bid on, including several really
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  Speaker 2: nice firearms that you want to check out, and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of trips that vendors have put up to be
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  Speaker 2: auctioned off as well. And all the proceeds go to
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  Speaker 2: the Youth Outdoors Education and Conservation causes. So five o'clock
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  Speaker 2: the charity auction here at this show. Back to some
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  Speaker 2: of the vendors. We got here. One of the most
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  Speaker 2: popular booths that you will find here, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how it became that, but it is the Crazy Cucumber.
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  Speaker 2: Katie Varga is in charge of that. How are you, Katie?
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  Speaker 15: I'm good. How are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing well? Now? When did you all come up
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  Speaker 2: with the idea of selling pickles at a show like this?
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  Speaker 16: We started in twenty fourteen, and our first year would
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  Speaker 16: be eleven years ago, and we started here in twenty fifteen, Collie, And.
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  Speaker 2: I mean at some point during the day, at several
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  Speaker 2: points during the day, there'll be fourteen deep around your
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  Speaker 2: booth over there.
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  Speaker 15: That is crat col Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Did that shock you how popular it was?
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  Speaker 15: It absolutely has.
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  Speaker 16: I mean, it was a small dream that's turned into
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  Speaker 16: a big dream for me and my dad.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, really, so you and your dad put this together
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  Speaker 2: as we start.
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  Speaker 16: Yep, me and my dad started together, and then it's
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  Speaker 16: just grown from there.
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  Speaker 2: Do you make the pickles we do? Where do you
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  Speaker 2: get that many cucumbers?
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  Speaker 15: Well, you have to wholesale them from a bunch of places.
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  Speaker 2: I got you. And how many different varieties of pickles
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  Speaker 2: do you sell?
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  Speaker 15: We make twenty different kinds.
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  Speaker 2: Can you make them yourself? Yes?
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  Speaker 16: In your house in our licensed commercial kitchen. Oh okay, yes,
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  Speaker 16: not our house.
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  Speaker 15: But yes, we're licensed and have a commercial kitchen.
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  Speaker 2: I got you. And where are you all? Where's that?
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  Speaker 2: Where are you all from?
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  Speaker 15: We're out of Johnstown, Ohio?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, And we were just talking. I have a cousin
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  Speaker 2: who lives in Johnstown here you actually knew. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 2: the most West Virginia thing ever right there. So, and
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  Speaker 2: you started this in twenty fourteen. Is this your main
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  Speaker 2: gig or do you have another job?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 15: No, this is my main gig.
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  Speaker 16: I actually have a nursing degree as well, and I
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  Speaker 16: worked at until twenty seventeen, and then in twenty seventeen
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  Speaker 16: I quit.
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  Speaker 15: And this is what I've been doing fully since then.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, as popular as they are,
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  Speaker 2: because I have friends who do not hunter fish and
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  Speaker 2: the girls, and they don't they have no interest in
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  Speaker 2: anything here, but they're like, we're coming over to get pickles,
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  Speaker 2: and they'll just come and get like three or four
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  Speaker 2: tubs those pickles.
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  Speaker 17: Oh.
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  Speaker 15: Absolutely, I mean that's what's been great for us.
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  Speaker 16: I mean, while this is a hunting and fishing show,
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  Speaker 16: we're also appealing to women and children at the same time,
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  Speaker 16: and so we're bringing more people in by getting them
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  Speaker 16: to come with their husbands.
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  Speaker 2: And you'll see them walking around just eating pickles. Yet
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  Speaker 2: now I'm not I like pickles, but I don't like
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  Speaker 2: them that much. But what is the best selling pickle
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  Speaker 2: you have?
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  Speaker 16: So our number one seller is deal pickle pickle. But
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  Speaker 16: I will say down here in West Virginia, everybody loves
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  Speaker 16: sweet pickles. So our sweet heat, spicy bread and butter,
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  Speaker 16: and bread and butter have been flying off the shelf.
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  Speaker 2: And how did you come up with all these different
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  Speaker 2: recipes and varieties?
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  Speaker 16: Just try on air and then like you know, I
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  Speaker 16: I see other people make other flavors that you may
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  Speaker 16: not have thought of.
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  Speaker 15: So we we buy, we test, and we just keep going.
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  Speaker 2: And what are some of the more unique ones?
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  Speaker 16: Well, right now we have a jalapeno line, which is
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  Speaker 16: just amazing. Now that one did not make it down
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  Speaker 16: here yet this year, but that's like a summertime one.
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  Speaker 16: We also have a new one coming out that's sweet
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  Speaker 16: with garlic.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Okay. So and what are the are the any
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  Speaker 2: unusual ones that that people like? Is their birthday cake
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  Speaker 2: pickles or something like that?
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  Speaker 16: No, no, there are there are somewhere in the world.
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  Speaker 16: I'm sure there's like cool a pickles and stuff both.
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  Speaker 16: We really haven't dabbled into that yet.
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  Speaker 2: Say you don't do the really odd.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no weird ones.
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  Speaker 15: We know what everybody likes and that's what we kind
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  Speaker 15: of stick with.
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  Speaker 2: And how do you how many do you bring with
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  Speaker 2: you when you come to a show like this?
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  Speaker 15: So this show we bought, we brought over one.
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  Speaker 16: Thousand pounds of pickles, holy, about two hundred buckets.
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  Speaker 2: How many shows do you do a year?
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  Speaker 15: We set up and sell at over four hundred shows
• 14:35
  Speaker 15: a year.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: Holy, cal that's you're somewhere ever weekend.
• 14:38
  Speaker 15: Are we are? And sometimes multiple times?
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: When do you find time to make well.
• 14:43
  Speaker 16: During the week week we do production on Mondays and Tuesdays.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: What's the furthest you guys travel to sell pickles?
• 14:50
  Speaker 16: Well, this is three hours from our house. We go
• 14:52
  Speaker 16: to the Kentucky State Fair, which is for four and
• 14:55
  Speaker 16: a half hours.
• 14:55
  Speaker 15: From our house.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, and then it's just kind of a radius
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: that that this is about his far as you go out.
• 15:02
  Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean we would travel, but we've been really
• 15:04
  Speaker 16: blessed with great farmers markets in our area, so those
• 15:06
  Speaker 16: have been really good for us.
• 15:07
  Speaker 15: So that's where we stay at mainly.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: I got you and and you said that you wholesale?
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: These are they locally grown there in the Ohio area,
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: because that's that's farm country.
• 15:15
  Speaker 16: So as much as you can, but with cucumbers, you
• 15:17
  Speaker 16: only really get one good season unless you have big greenhouses.
• 15:20
  Speaker 16: So some come from Ohio, some are coming from other places.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: I got you, I got you. Well. Katie Varga is
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: the lady at the Crazy Cucumber. She's the pickle lady,
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: and everybody comes here to grab a pack of pickles.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: And if you're wondering about what a lot of the
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: ladies are doing at the show, they're picking up the pickles.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, thanks so much, because I know thank you
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: for at least having the time to come up here.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: I wanted to talk to you because it's such a
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: popular booth and an unusual item is that is sold here.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I know you're going to be so
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: busy here in about an hour that I couldn't have
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: pulled you away to do it.
• 15:53
  Speaker 15: So thanks for coming up Oh anytime. Thank you.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: All right. Katie Varga there from the Crazy Cucumber. Talk
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: to her. She's the pickled Lady. And oh she even
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: has a has a cheering audience out here. I like that.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Let's shift gears now to a guy who has not
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: got an audience. Bobby Bauer Pro River Outfitters.
• 16:07
  Speaker 17: What are you doing, man, Well, I'm thinking about having
• 16:09
  Speaker 17: some pickles for breakfast, you know, before it gets too busy.
• 16:14
  Speaker 17: It's pretty amazing how many people line up to get pickles.
• 16:17
  Speaker 17: It really is any constant flow of pickle people by
• 16:20
  Speaker 17: the booth all day every day. So if you guys
• 16:22
  Speaker 17: want pickles, you better come get them quick.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: When I when I have to leave the booth to
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: go out to the lobby, I try to take another
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: route because you can't get by the pickle booth. There's
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: too many people and.
• 16:31
  Speaker 17: By Sunday midday the floor is so sticky that day
• 16:34
  Speaker 17: you kind of get stuck there. I think they might
• 16:36
  Speaker 17: have that as part of their marketing.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Employee get the.
• 16:39
  Speaker 17: Sticky people can't get by. They got to spend their
• 16:42
  Speaker 17: money before they keep moving. Now you're you're telling tales
• 16:44
  Speaker 17: out of school.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Now imagine that. I mean, I'm a fishing guy.
• 16:47
  Speaker 17: You knows. You know, by tomorrow will be a whole
• 16:51
  Speaker 17: new story. How how was your year last year? Did
• 16:53
  Speaker 17: you catch a lot of fish? It was out of sight?
• 16:55
  Speaker 17: You know, we had really really low water. It was
• 16:58
  Speaker 17: super clear and and you know we like the low water.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: It was amazing.
• 17:04
  Speaker 17: It was probably the best numbers I've had in the
• 17:07
  Speaker 17: last decades. So you know, the spawns have been good
• 17:10
  Speaker 17: and the New River is on fire. The a lot
• 17:14
  Speaker 17: of small fish, so that's good because they're getting bigger.
• 17:17
  Speaker 17: So it was one of the better days with better
• 17:19
  Speaker 17: years we've had.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: We obviously talk a lot about smallmouth on the New
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: River because that is the species that draws people in.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: But we would be remiss if we didn't talk about
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: the work that has been done to bring along the walleyes.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: The walleye fishing is is on point.
• 17:32
  Speaker 17: It's it's hard to go out and just target walleye
• 17:36
  Speaker 17: except for it in the spring and things are like
• 17:38
  Speaker 17: below Sandstone Falls or kanal Falls where their spawning grounds are.
• 17:42
  Speaker 17: But you know, we're we're catching big walleye on a
• 17:45
  Speaker 17: regular basis, so you know, you're although we're hunting, hunting
• 17:48
  Speaker 17: small mouth, you know, we're hooking up some nice walleye
• 17:51
  Speaker 17: and they're getting to be you know, a twenty to
• 17:53
  Speaker 17: twenty four inch walleye is not that uncommon now.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Done a lot of studies, a lot of stories on
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: this over the year. Mark Scott, who just retired from
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: the DNR. This was one of his pet projects when
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: he started. But they isolated a gene. The smart guys
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: at Virginia Tech in their their Wildlife and fisheries some
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: researchers figured out that there is a gene that is
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: unique to the New River that had had largely been
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: lost and what was here now was the New was
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: the Lake Eries strain, and those aren't nearly as hardy.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: But once they were able to isolate that particular gene
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: and replicate it, and then suddenly reproduce them. What they
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: found was that those walleyes in the New River and
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: that new River strain, they grow so much faster and
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: they're so much more aggressive. So in two or three
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: years you're gonna have an eighteen to twenty four inch
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: walley It's going to tear your arm off. Yeah, it's awesome.
• 18:44
  Speaker 17: I've followed marks projects since the since the he had
• 18:47
  Speaker 17: introduced it years ago, and it's it's worked. It's really
• 18:51
  Speaker 17: neat that they brought those fish back. And yeah, they
• 18:55
  Speaker 17: grow quick and they fight a lot harder than normal walleye.
• 18:59
  Speaker 17: Typically catch one fights for a second, but these things
• 19:01
  Speaker 17: are kind of scrappy.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you along with the guidework that you do, your
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: main business is really selling rafts. Yeah, I design and
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: manufacture rafts.
• 19:12
  Speaker 17: We do have a warehouse in Fayetteville, Oak Hill area,
• 19:16
  Speaker 17: so where a company called Rocky Mountain Rafts. We have
• 19:19
  Speaker 17: about ten of us now working in West Virginia. We
• 19:21
  Speaker 17: migrated from Colorado to West Virginia and going really well.
• 19:26
  Speaker 17: I've got one of my brand new rafts that just
• 19:28
  Speaker 17: came out this week. So this is the first showing
• 19:31
  Speaker 17: of the new Flow one thirty two fishing boat. It's
• 19:35
  Speaker 17: like half the price of most of the competitors. We're
• 19:40
  Speaker 17: gonna turn it upside down. It's a neat boat. The
• 19:43
  Speaker 17: people have been super psyched about it.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: One of the things that's really important when you're when
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: you're fishing, at least on a float trip, is comfort.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: As opposed to the white water guys. It's the ideas
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: to get wet y and to stay dry is the
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: is the idea when you're fishing. What kind of modifications
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: do you make to the rafts to make s sure
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: that those are the two goals that are met.
• 20:02
  Speaker 17: Yeah, This boat that we have at the show, the
• 20:04
  Speaker 17: new raft, it has a drop stitch floor. So if
• 20:07
  Speaker 17: you know what a stand up paddle board is, it's
• 20:09
  Speaker 17: a solid inflatable piece, so really easy to stand on,
• 20:13
  Speaker 17: really comfortable. We have padded swivel seats. We're into maximum
• 20:17
  Speaker 17: comfort for sure when we're out there fishing. Could you
• 20:19
  Speaker 17: spend a bunch of time. We also have stand up
• 20:22
  Speaker 17: paddle boards and kayaks and inner tubes that you can
• 20:24
  Speaker 17: snow or snow or float and you know, kind of
• 20:28
  Speaker 17: a full line of products.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Well, and standing up is so important when you're when
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: you're talking about the fishing, because it's a lot easier
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: fish standing up that' sit down, particularly if you've got
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: a big one on the line, without a doubt.
• 20:41
  Speaker 17: So the drop Stitch floor is just a really stable platform,
• 20:44
  Speaker 17: and we have if you come by the show, the
• 20:46
  Speaker 17: frames have leaning bars and uh it's very really custom
• 20:51
  Speaker 17: outfitted and real proud of them. The price is right
• 20:54
  Speaker 17: as well, So we got a little store up in
• 20:57
  Speaker 17: Fanville and we're selling boats all around. We're really the
• 20:59
  Speaker 17: only dealer in the eastern United States.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: On one final question, how much has the Declaration of
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: the of the Park and Preserve from what it was
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: to become an actual National Parking Preserve. How much differences
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: that made in the traffic and the people that you've
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: had through there. You know, it's it's brought a lot
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: more people and it's a different kind of crowd than
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: we had, you know, ten years ago. I do jipboat tours,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I've done a number of different businesses and it's just
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: been amazing.
• 21:29
  Speaker 17: I mean, we have people coming year round now. It's
• 21:33
  Speaker 17: it's it definitely has up the visitation in the New
• 21:37
  Speaker 17: River Gorge area and there's so much to do there.
• 21:40
  Speaker 17: So if you're out though out this summer. Come by
• 21:43
  Speaker 17: Pro River Outfitters and we'll hook you up. We got
• 21:45
  Speaker 17: all the toys.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Sounds good. Bobby boy our Pro River Outfitters, stop by
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: and see me. He's actually in the booth, just a
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: couple of doors down from our Radio Ranch booth here
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: on the show floor at the Charleston Collish Convention Center.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Bobby always good, See buddy. All right, We got to
• 21:59
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• 25:24
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  Speaker 1: Virginia Hunting and Fishing Show. Let's return to the West
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Virginia DNR stage on the Great Hall floor to continue
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: the conversation. Here's Chris Lawrence.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the West Virginia Hunting and Fishing Show.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: A special edition of West Virginia out Doors were live
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: on the show floor. The doors are open here at
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: the Hunt and Fishing Show until nine o'clock to night.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Hours tomorrow are ten until five. Twelve dollars is the
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: admission price, but if you're under the age of twelve,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: you get yourself in free. We continue to talk to
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: several of the vendors on the show floor here, and
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: one of the big draws of this particular event is
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: the opportunity to go hunting or fishing in someplace you've
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: never been before. Fortunately, I've gotten a couple of opportunities
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: to fish in Canada, and Gordon Bowen with Long Point
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Lodge is one of those guys that can provide you
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: with that opportunity. Gordon's could see him. Man, come up
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: on the mic. There a little bit for me. There
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: we go. Where exactly is your camp located? Long Point Lodge.
• 26:27
  Speaker 24: It's about eight dollars eight and a half hours straight
• 26:30
  Speaker 24: north of Buffalo.
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: It's seventeen hour drive from here.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: I got you, and so you'd leave early in the
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: morning you get there late in the evening.
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, about seventeen hour drive.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: How I remember when I came to Canada, and this
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: has been ten fifteen years ago, but there was a
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: lot of people trying to the border is where things
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: slow down because obviously it's a border. How hard is
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: it to get through there? Now?
• 26:51
  Speaker 24: The border is really simple now as long as you've
• 26:53
  Speaker 24: got your just your passports, there's no problem crossing the
• 26:56
  Speaker 24: border whatsoever.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: And it's not near as like holiday weekends.
• 27:00
  Speaker 24: Yes it's bad, but if a person comes across, like
• 27:03
  Speaker 24: on a Friday, Friday afternoons and stuff, that's really good.
• 27:06
  Speaker 24: Saturday mornings, it can be a hassle getting across because
• 27:09
  Speaker 24: when people cross, and like most of our guests from
• 27:11
  Speaker 24: down here, they'll leave on Friday and drive up and
• 27:15
  Speaker 24: maybe get as far as Toronto, stay overnight.
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: But they tried to get across the border on the Fridays.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Oah yeah, yeah do uh. And I know once you
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: get north of Toronto it starts to get a little
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: less populated up there. Oh yeah.
• 27:30
  Speaker 24: But like if the highways are busier now, like that's
• 27:33
  Speaker 24: the thing, Like it takes a little longer now because
• 27:35
  Speaker 24: there's more trucks on the road, yeah, and more traffic
• 27:37
  Speaker 24: now compared to say twenty years ago when you came.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Up right now, the one thing was though, I mean
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: these aren't dirt roads, they're paved even in the middle
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: of nowhere, you got paved roads up there.
• 27:47
  Speaker 24: And now with that new highway around Toronto makes all
• 27:49
  Speaker 24: the difference in the world because years ago, say twenty
• 27:52
  Speaker 24: five years ago, when we used to come down here
• 27:54
  Speaker 24: these shows, people went to Toronto and they just said
• 27:57
  Speaker 24: it was a nightmare, so they would never come back.
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: Now you you take that etr that pay highway right.
• 28:02
  Speaker 24: As a toll road, just expensive, but saved you an
• 28:05
  Speaker 24: hour and you don't even see the city right.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: And the funny thing is when I did that, I
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: they you don't have to You don't even realize you're
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: being told. They just send you a bill, have to
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: make check out your license. And for so many years
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I kept getting a bill from those folks for two cents,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: and I kept sending them two cents, and I'd get
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: another bill for two cents. I was like, and finally
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I was just like, you know what, if you want
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: to come and put me in your Canadian jail for
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: being a dibnor, go ahead, I'm not sending you any
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: more coins through the mail.
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: But the point bad thing is if a person don't
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: pay for these tolls and stuff. Yeah, sometimes if you
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: go across the border. That's all on your passport. Don't
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: because that is an unpaid uh huh. I think same
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: as like.
• 28:46
  Speaker 24: Now when we come down like on seventy nine or
• 28:48
  Speaker 24: ninety up in Buffalo, before you had stopped and you
• 28:51
  Speaker 24: paid your toll. Now it's electronic, just like it is
• 28:54
  Speaker 24: up at our places. They just send you a bill.
• 28:56
  Speaker 20: Yeah.
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: So if I don't pay that toll, if.
• 28:58
  Speaker 24: I go to come back to the States again, I
• 29:01
  Speaker 24: can't cross the border because I got an outstanding.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Oh geezz oh goodness, I may be an outlaw in Canada.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Probably I'll check that out. But before I go, tell
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: me a little bit about your about Long Point Lodge.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: What do you offer folks and if they're going to
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: come fishing with you, what are they Like?
• 29:16
  Speaker 24: We have, like I said, like a hunting and fishing
• 29:18
  Speaker 24: camp as well as family vacations, like we do the
• 29:20
  Speaker 24: spring black bear hunt and then we do a lot
• 29:23
  Speaker 24: of trope fishing in the spring. July and August is
• 29:26
  Speaker 24: more family groups and then we do it like then
• 29:28
  Speaker 24: we got the pike walleyed bass. As the weather's better
• 29:32
  Speaker 24: for the families, you don't have the black flies like
• 29:34
  Speaker 24: in July and August.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Like you do in June.
• 29:36
  Speaker 24: Then the fall we have our spring small game season,
• 29:39
  Speaker 24: we have our fall black bear hunt, and then we
• 29:43
  Speaker 24: also have the fall moose hunt. But don't we don't
• 29:46
  Speaker 24: cater to none residents for the moose hunts because we
• 29:49
  Speaker 24: just can't get the tags for the moose hunt.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, how hard are those to get?
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I figure for moose, they're they're pretty well regulated, aren't you.
• 29:56
  Speaker 24: Unit forty where we are is probably the worst one
• 29:58
  Speaker 24: in Ontario to get a tag on.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: So do you have a lot of moose there? I
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: mean you do that.
• 30:03
  Speaker 24: We had lost for a long time, and then when
• 30:06
  Speaker 24: they did all the new clear cuts and stuff and
• 30:08
  Speaker 24: with the ATVs and everything, that really hurt the moose
• 30:11
  Speaker 24: population for about ten years.
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: But then they changed the tag system and it's really
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: brought the moose population back up again.
• 30:19
  Speaker 24: Like I had a moose right in her yard about
• 30:21
  Speaker 24: three months ago, off in through the yard.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: That's what the bro sure you need to take the
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: picture of that.
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: You never had the caverns?
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah? What about the bear? What is the procedure? Do
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: you have to draw for a bear tag or are
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: they over the counter?
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: Yes, over the counter. As soon as you. As soon
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: as you buy your bear bear license.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: That is your that is your tag, okay, and you're you're.
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: Allowed one bear.
• 30:45
  Speaker 24: And so when the guys come up to our place,
• 30:47
  Speaker 24: they can buy the license online, they can stop at
• 30:50
  Speaker 24: dating store and get their license, and then when they
• 30:52
  Speaker 24: get to our place, then it's just a matter of
• 30:54
  Speaker 24: filling out the paperwork. Because a non resident can't just
• 30:58
  Speaker 24: go down the road and shoot a bear anywhere. He
• 31:00
  Speaker 24: can only shoot his bear on my bear management area.
• 31:04
  Speaker 24: Like I pay for two hundred and fifty five thousand acres.
• 31:07
  Speaker 24: It's the size area that.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: I good, gracious, that's a county here, but.
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: I'm the only one that the only outfitter that can
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: bear bait in that area.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say these are all over bait, I
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: guess because up there the country is so thick it's
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: it'd be difficult to stop one.
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: Like even with dogs. Years ago we tried with the
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: people brought dogs up.
• 31:28
  Speaker 24: Now nobody allows a dog up there to hunt because
• 31:31
  Speaker 24: ninety percent of the time you guys don't have their dogs.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: When they're going back home get.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Lost, they're still running one hundred miles away. You can
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: see them on the GPS but you can't get there
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: from here. So that's that's that's kind of how it goes.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: How how is the fishing and what are the accommodations
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: when that when you come up where you staying.
• 31:46
  Speaker 24: The fishing usually that I always said best fishing is
• 31:49
  Speaker 24: last week and made the month of June because the
• 31:51
  Speaker 24: water's cooler and the fish are more aggressive. But the
• 31:55
  Speaker 24: thing is people have got to realize, like with family groups,
• 31:58
  Speaker 24: that's the way you don't have them in June.
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: Because the black fly season. You know, it's just if
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: you want good fishing.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that Yeah, the the industrial strength off is
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: like the cologne of the north Woods up there.
• 32:10
  Speaker 24: But then like all the cabins are all all have
• 32:13
  Speaker 24: everything in them there self self like like I mean
• 32:16
  Speaker 24: you've got your electric fridge, got a shower, No no
• 32:20
  Speaker 24: generators those aholl hydro electric and stuff.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a deal breaker for the wives. She's like,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: if I can't take a shower, I'm not going I'm
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: not staying out there for a week with no shower.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, you can take a bathroom the lake.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: I've done that before. Yeah, especially off, Yeah, it's a
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: tad cool. You won't stay in there long.
• 32:38
  Speaker 24: But but at least you look at the end of July,
• 32:40
  Speaker 24: our lake temperature gets eighty degrees.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: It really Wow, that's that. That's really amazing. And uh
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: and I guess you said it's a pike, walleye and
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: smallmouth or you're.
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: Abdominally what we have.
• 32:51
  Speaker 24: But then we I do have boats on a couple
• 32:53
  Speaker 24: of small lakes for speckled toroat as well, but we've
• 32:55
  Speaker 24: got boats on like eleven different lakes other than our
• 32:58
  Speaker 24: main lake.
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: So you can go to the lake every day.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: And now's a great time to go to Canada because
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: the exchange rate on the money, at least if you're
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: an American.
• 33:06
  Speaker 24: A dollar forty to a dollar forty five right now.
• 33:09
  Speaker 24: So any holiday you're looking save your holidays, one thousand
• 33:12
  Speaker 24: dollars holiday will take.
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: Forty percent off.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: So you're paying your trip, you can leave here and
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: drive all the way up to where we are.
• 33:20
  Speaker 24: You're gasoline and you could get a motel room free
• 33:24
  Speaker 24: your charge with what you're getting on your exchange rate.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Wow. There wasn't like that the last time I went.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: It was the other way around. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: that now now's the time. So if you're looking to
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: go to Canada. Now, now's the time to book the
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: trip for sure. Yeah, for sure, sure, And I don't
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: know if it's going to change between now and the
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: summer when you might go. It doesn't.
• 33:43
  Speaker 24: It doesn't go up and down like you don't see
• 33:45
  Speaker 24: it drop like fifteen cents over night sort of deal,
• 33:48
  Speaker 24: like you know, like it takes a long time for it. Sure,
• 33:51
  Speaker 24: because they could say like this for ten years said
• 33:53
  Speaker 24: you know right.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Gordon Bow and Long Point Lodge. Check him out.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: He's got fishing and bear hunting in Canada, and you
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: can and you can talk to him about a trip.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: There'll be a lot of fun. I can promise you
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: you won't regret going up there and trying this out.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Gordon's good to see you, buddy already. All right, take
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: it easy. Let's shift gears. Now talk to another longtime
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: friend of the show, see Gordon Bugsy from Bugsy's Baits
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: is here. Bugsy, how are you man? Doing? Awesome? Chris,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: thanks for having me again, Old Booon County boy here
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: but now comes to us via Detroit. Yeah, I like
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: making the trip down here. So yeah, you guys, so
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: so you're still working in Detroit, but you've got this
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: the Bugsy's baits is your side hustle? Is that right? Yes, sir,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I've had it for about eight or nine years now, Chris,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: I work for an automotive company, as you know. Christs
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: were headquarters which is called Stallanis. I got almost thirty
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: one years there. But I love doing the fishing ower business.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: We've got a various assortment of baits to cover pretty
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: much any cadence that you might want to use. You know. Yeah,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: we got a lot of drop shot baits, got a
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: lot of creature baits if you want to throw a jig.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: We got some swim baits over there. Took a lot
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: of pride in adding the trick worms. You got a
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: sixth sense an eight eight inch trick worm that we
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: had last season. I think he saw some of those
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: that some of the shows last year. But any any
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: techniques the guys are used around here on the rivers
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: and lakes, we pretty much got it covered. Trying to
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: trying to caters who are West Virginia crew. We got
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Rob here with us Rob Cherrypica. We got Will Diffinball,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: we got Dustin and Bowhall in which you know all
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: those guys and of course they've all been on the
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: show with me. Yeah, they've all been on the show.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: We got Dana Brown two, who's heads up the Youth Nation.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: We don't put him on the show. That's okay, that's
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: not true. We have had Dana on before. How do
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: you come up with the designs?
• 35:38
  Speaker 9: Is it?
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Is it a collective of all these guys that you
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: just mentioned. Did they put their heads together with this
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: or is it out of your brain? How's it work?
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: At little of both. I kind of throw the ideas
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: out there and try to see if it fits their
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: fishing techniques and their cadence and you know how they
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: use the baits, and you know, you got to fine
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: tune it. You know, you got to really know the
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: streams and the rivers and the lakes and the water
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: clarity for you know, for the for the colors that
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: we got to choose that will work. I mean, if
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: you come to show and I don't have the collors
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: that you normally use, you're not obviously going to buy
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: a product. So we have to spend a lot of
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: time trying to figure all that stuff out amongst all
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: those guys. Plus, you know, a normal customer that comes
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: in you know, I asked them what you use. You know,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: I put that in the back of my mind, so
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: I may add or delete a caller just to substitute
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: it out. So I've got that covered, you know. Yeah.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: How how is the how is the development of these?
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, when you how do you come up with
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: a new color or a new combination of flakes and collars? Well,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: basically we try to figure out how much flash we
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: want in it. And and usually, Chris, when I look
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: at callers, you know, there's bright fluorescent collars, there's dark collars,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: and there's your flashy colors, and then there's of course white, Okay,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: and white, it's a whole different animal. I'm of the
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: opinion that white is probably universal. You can use it
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: in any applicant with any bait, because it's the most
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: natural color I think it is, and it works in
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: the really cold temperatures as well. Right, And you'll find
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: most anglers don't really have a whole lot of white
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: in their tackle box. So we try to put that
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: out there in front of them and tell them that
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: they need white or some version of white, smoky or
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: an off white or an ivory or something like that.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at the if you look
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: at what fish feed on, there's there's some variation of
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: white in it. Correct. So that's why I've always been
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: of the opinion and I mean I don't catch a
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: lot of fish, but I've always been of the opinion
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: that you're probably your odds are better if you if
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: you're working something white. Yeah, you'll not had this conversation before.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: But uh, the the flash. Sometimes the flashy collars are
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: too flashy. The dark colors are too dark, okay, and
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: and and basically white. Like I said, it's the safest
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: collar and it works in almost any lake, any stream,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: any river well, and flash depends on the mood of
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: the I mean, you know, early morning low light conditions
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: are a lot different than bluebird skies in the middle
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: of the day when the sun's out bright. I mean,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: those fish are going to be low, you know, under something.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: So we try to figure out how much flake we
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: want in it. Do we want to do a two
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: collar laminate? I very seldom try to stay away. I
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: probably should rephrase that. Most of the time I stay
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: away from a three collar laminate because it just gets
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: too busy, you know. Yeah, we've now dived way too
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: technical into into the bait building business that everybody's going,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: what are they talking about? Yeah, we were talking about
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: three color laminates. So we'll cut it off right there.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: But if folks want to come by, what is the
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: price of a pack of your baits? So what we
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: offer Chris is a many bulk pack of baits and
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: they're twelve dollars a pack. But if you want to
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: take a whole handful, we do six packs for sixty bucks.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: We give you a deal. And most of the packs
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: have either a twenty count in them or a fifteen count,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: so it's a really good value and they're pretty durable.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: I mean there's some of these fancy baits you buy
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: and one fig it's done, and you only bought you
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: only got like six in the pack, and it was
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: like twenty bucks. Yeah, a little better deal there, purpose
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: stay away from that. We want the baits to hold
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: up and catch at least anywhere from four to eight
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: fish per bait. Story about that. We were talking to
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: the fella from Canada here a moment ago when I
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: went up there fishing. We had one color of a
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: bait that they were really tearing up, and we only
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: had one pack of them pink. No, they were actually
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: like a Chartrou's green, like a really bright kneon green.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: And literally we were down to that pack. We used
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: every bait in there, and we were literally down to
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: putting just a speck of it on the tip of
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: the hook and still getting bites. In fact, once I
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: saw that one had gotten off and was about three
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: feet of water, I got out of the boat and
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: went down and got it and brought it back up.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: So the next time we went back to Canada, my
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: son Hank and I we went to Kabela's and I
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: guess we bought fifteen of those fifteen packs of those
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: spent a fortune. They didn't touch them, They didn't get
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: a bite on any of them. There was just that
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: day it was the right bait at the right time,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: and that's sometimes how it works. Yes, so you got
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: to have them covered. Yeah, Buggsy, it's good to see you, buddy,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: and stop buy and see him. He's actually right here
• 40:13
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• 40:15
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• 40:17
  Speaker 2: the Youth Outdoor Challenge, you all are the booth where
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: the kids come and do the casting arm of that yes,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: and it was really really busy yesterday. We saw so
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: many kids and we actually ran into a lot of
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: kids and never picked up a fishing rod or a
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: real whatever. So we're going great. Buggsy always good to
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: see you. My friend Chris, he has Buggy from Buggsy's Baits.
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• 40:38
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  Speaker 1: You're listening to a special edition of West Virginia Outdoors
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• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to West Virginia Outdoors. We are live at
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• 43:57
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• 44:03
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• 44:10
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• 44:12
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• 44:15
  Speaker 2: I will be tied up about five o'clock though, on
• 44:17
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• 44:21
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• 44:24
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• 44:31
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• 44:34
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• 44:36
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• 44:38
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• 44:41
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• 44:44
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• 44:46
  Speaker 2: a significantly reduced price, and then all of the proceeds
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: will go to outdoor youth education and conservation. That's the
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: way the charity auction works. Speaking of charity, the Poker
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: River Hunting and Fishing Club, Chris Withrow is with today.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Chris are you man?
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: I'm great, Chris, how are you?
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Good morning? I am well. You you were adamant about
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: wanting to talk about the PoCA River Hunting and Fishing Club.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Tell me a little bit about that.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: Well. We are a family oriented campground, hunting, fishing, recreation club.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: We're really excited about our reservation over there over in Poku,
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: which is right out the end of DuPont Road, and
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: we have everything an outdoorsman would like to have for
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: the whole family.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: What is the history of this is? Was this a
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: club back for one of the chemical companies?
• 45:35
  Speaker 9: It was?
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: It was the old DuPont employees okay club, and it
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: did turned over to an employee or a member's only club.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: So we have just a wonderful place out there. We have, really, Chris,
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: we have probably the best long range rifle shoot.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: How long is it?
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: Six over six hundred and thirty yards?
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: I could have used that. A couple of months ago.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: I was looking for a place to get sighted in
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: at three hundred I couldn't find one. Well, couldn't you
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: know where to find it? Now we certainly have that.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: We have a pistol range, really nice pistol range. We
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: have skeet shooting range as well, and for the whole family,
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: we have we have a two hundred and fifty thousand
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: gallon swimming pool and everything else that you would see
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: in a campground. We have five lakes that we stocked
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: with trout and catfish throughout the year and have a
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: lot of fun activities for the family and the outdoors.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: We've got a new archery range.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: So if you're you have to be a member to
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: take advantage of all these amenities.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: Absolutely. Now, once a year we have a membership drive.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: This year it's June seventh, which is open to the public,
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: so you can come out and enjoy it and see
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: everything that we have. But yeah, it's a members only.
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: We've got a booth set up over here, and we
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: would love to talk to anybody. If someone's interested in
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: becoming a member and bringing their family, we'd love to
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: have them out there.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Can you what if you wanted to if you were
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: a member, can you have say a reunion or a
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: party or something there kind of have.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: We have an indoor facility that we rent out, shelters
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: that we rent out. We UH have the opportunity for
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: anybody to come in and again if you're a member,
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: UH and say your child wants to bring a couple
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: of people over to the pool this summer. We have
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: a really small fee for guests. You can bring gas
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: in as long as you're there with them. It's a
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: wonderful place. We also have forty eight long term camper
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: spots that you're able to sign up for. It's a
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: it's a great family fund.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Kind of like a retreat. You know, you've had enough
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: of Charleston for the week and and you want to
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: go out there to spend the weekend out there doing
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: those kinds of activities.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely, it's a wonderful place to come out and
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: enjoy the summer.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, what is the what is the cost to be
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: a member? And are there various degrees of membership them
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: is the individual versus family or in order.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: To get the pool the whole shooting match, and also
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: that one of the mentioned. We have five hundred acres
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: that you can ride on side by side, nature, walk, hunt,
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: whatever you want to do. But it's four twenty five
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: for the entire family for the entire year. And then
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: we have a gun range a range membership which includes
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: our archery range, and it's one hundred and eighty five
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: dollars per year. Our our year starts April first and
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: goes through March thirty first. So yeah, it's it's not
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: very expensive. With all the things that you get and
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: and all the things that you can take advantage of
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: out there, it's it's really a monument a minimum amount.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: So yeah, if you're shooting enthusiasm that range membership, I mean,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: you're gonna not gonna find anything like that around here.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: You're not gonna find anything.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: And and it's maintained, I suppose that the shooting points.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: Are very well. We'll absolutely maintained. We have one of
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: our board members that that absolutely loves that range. We
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: it's all covered, got nice shooting benches, it's always maintained mode.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: We need it.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: Targets are good. It's a really nice place if you
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: like to shoot. You really want to come out and
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: check it out.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: It's the Poker River Hunting Fishing Club. Stop by and
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: talk to him. They got a booth here and buy
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: a chance on that side by side there giving away
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: as well. So good to see you, Chris. Thanks for
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: coming by, all right, Chris Withrow with a Poker River
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Hunting Fishing Club. Let's shift gears right. You're not Ryan
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: David Walls is with us. I was supposed to have
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Ryan on next, but you had to pinch it for Ryan.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: David Walls with Ridge Runner Rods is with us. Ain't
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: doing man? All right? You posted a picture on Facebook
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: the other day of your shop which is actually inside
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: your house. Yeah, it's actually across the street. Now we've
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: got to We just opened up January one. Oh okay,
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize that. I thought this was your your basement,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: So that that's the shop? Then how about that seven
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: square feet? I was proud to see a radio in there.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you that that's old schools. Yeah, yeah, you
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: had the had the radio in there it and it's
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: a place where you custom build rods. I had no
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: idea how how versatile you can be with this.
• 49:57
  Speaker 20: You can.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: You can get a guy a rod or a galla
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: rod that is really special and is really personalized to
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: their their taste as far as what they wanted the rod,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: but also the markings on it. Yes, dude, just about anything,
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: any type of collar decals. The nude. Big thing now
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: is memorial rods getting it, you know, with a decal
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: of the birth and the date or believe it or not,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: we're putting ashes in it really so someone's creamated. You
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: can either put the ashes inside the rod or actually
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: in the epoxy. How about that? So I had you
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: make one for me earlier this year, my friend Randy Mays.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: It was the baseball coach at WVU is a huge
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: fly fisherman, and when he retired, I had you make
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: one for him with and it had the flying WV
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: and it had some baseballs on it and his name
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: and it was it was a nineweight fly rod, which
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: I did some recon on that from his wife and
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: found out that was the one rod weight he did
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: not have. Right, boy, he was pretty excited and he
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: sent me a picture of a fish he had caught
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: with it. He was pretty excited about that rod. Really
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: nice and that's the success stories we like hearing. Yeah,
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: when they catch them. How do you where do the
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: materials come from? Where do the blanks come from? How
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: much of this do you actually build in Taye Valley?
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: And how much comes from you know, a raw materials
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: that you bring in. Most of my stuff is pre
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: built raw materials. I've got five different distributors. You've got
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: some that is actually still here in the United States,
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: but a lot of it is import and then we
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: just assemble everything that we get. It's really a complex
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: thing to do if you have the raw materials. E.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: P H challenges things like that. Sure, sure, Well, when
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: we think about known names in the rod business, Saint Croix,
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: ge Loomis, you know some of those bigger names, those
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: higher end products, are these along that level? Those are
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: these are high end rods basically the same stuff that
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: you would buy in those in those range. Right, The
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: minks that we buy is blanks that are made for us.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: But we can get g Loomis blanks, St. Corey blanks.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: We can build on exact same thing. All we would
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: be doing is curtelling it to your needs. Yeah, the
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: type of handling, it's custom made. It's custom made, the
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: type of grips you want, the type of Uh, if
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: you want it to be a certain length, that's custom
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: where you can't go in a big box store and
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: get that. So that's what we do for people. Yeah,
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: and uh, what's the average price of one of these?
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: When you're looking at that average but rod right now,
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: like I've got show specials over here and stuff. You're
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: looking at one oh nine to one fifty or an
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: average bass rods something like that. Wow, trout Rod's a
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: little bit cheaper. Fly rods are usually a little bit
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: more because they are longer, a little bit more finesse,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: even for the even for those high end blanks like
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Loomis and Saint Croixlumus. Now, if you want a high
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: end blank, it all depends upon what I can get
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: the blank for. If they are cheaper, we don't. We
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: don't try to gouge a person. We keep at savings
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: for you. Sure, I got you so? And how would
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: they you have the booth here at the Hunting Fishing Show.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: They can just come by and talk to you and
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: see the various ones. And like you said, it could
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: be a bass rod, it could be a trout rod,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: it could be a fly rod. You have all of them,
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: got them all, catfish, muskie, we do deep sea fishing rods. Wow,
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: so we do the whole gamut. Stop buy and see him.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: It's called Ridge Runner Rods. And David Walls is his name,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: and he does really good work. I can attest to
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: that he's done something for me. Dave good. See you man,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. Appreciate time. We've got more to come
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: right after the news, but we got to take a
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: break and be back at the Charleston Coliseuma Convention Center
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: on five ad w CCHS The Voice.
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: Of Charleston, five ECHSAM ninety six point five Back then
• 53:39
  Speaker 7: Charleston one oh four point five Cross Lane WRC Media Station.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: We're proud to live here too. On five eight WCHS
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: The Voice of Charleston. This is a special edition of
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: West Virginia Outdoors Live from the West Virginia Hunting and
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Fishing Show. Let's go live to the West Virginia d
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: NR stage on the Great Hall floor. Here's West Virginia's
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Voice of the Outdoors, Chris Lawrence.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Good morning, everybody, Welcome in on five ADWCCHS. We are
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: live this morning on the stage here at the Charleston
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Coliseum and Convention Center for the twenty twenty five West
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Virginia Hunting Fishing Show, Day two getting started right now.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: Even as we come on the air, the doors are opening.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: If you're on your way down today, appreciate you listening in, stop,
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: buy and see us. We're going to be on the
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: air here visiting with a number of the people involved
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: in the show until noon here on five ed WCHS.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: And like I said this morning on West Virginia out Doors,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: it is almost a state law now that I cannot
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: start any broadcast from this event without Glenn Jarrell of
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: the West Virginia Trophy Hunters Association as guest number one.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: How you doing, Buddy, I'm doing great. Thanks again Chris
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: for coming down. You are the voice the West Virginia
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: and Fishing boys. Well, I appreciate that Voice of Outdoors.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: It's worked out well that I've that I've started every
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: show with you. They've all come off without a hedge.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: So I think that that's the key is to start
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: with you absolutely, And I want to tell you, Chris,
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: you did a great job yesterday. I just talked to
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: one of the vendors that I came in to your
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: legs who sells the saucy Oh yeah, he sold out
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: yesterday evening.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: He cooked all night.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: Wow, so he's got the meat case again.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: I bought.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: I bought a pack from him. That was my supper
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: last night, A pack of those snacksticks with the cheddary.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: You can't beat those. And if you like the hot
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: stuff is Alipino. I'm told is that's not me but
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: the Jalipino. He has that as well, and it's pretty good.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: So yesterday we got things started to Saturday is always
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: the big day here. People have been cooped up for
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: the past what two weeks with ice and snow. We
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: finally got some good weather and it's a great opportunity
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: to come out and spend the day with the family
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: here in an event that will probably have something for everybody.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: What we do have, like I say, we had the
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: food here. We have outfitter from all over the all
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: over the place. If you want to book a bear
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: hunt from can of the guys are here if you
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: want to book a elk hunt anal punt. The Western
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: guys are well represented. We have fishing captains from the
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: Great Lakes if you want to do any kind of
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: fishing of whitewater.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Ever, what it's here and exactly now I want to
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: bring into the fold here a new voice from the show,
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: and that's Tyler Roebuck.
• 56:20
  Speaker 7: Is that?
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Do I say that correctly? Tyler roe Beck Roebeck? Tyler Roebeck.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Now he's also with the Trophy Hunters Association. And you
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: are you in charge of the white Tail Hall of Fame?
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Are you just the last one hired and they sent
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: you over here?
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: I was the voluntold manager of the Whitetael Hall of Fame.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: The volunt told it's interesting too, Glenn, that the Trophy
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Hunters unlike other organizations in this state. I mean, you
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: all obviously are a conservation organization as well, but this
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: is your all's thing is to put this show on
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: and then the proceeds go to hunting and fishing, a
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: conservation as well as youth outdoor education.
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: Absolutely after we pay Oliver Bill's all the profit goes
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: to organizations that from outdoor activities. They promote conservation, anything
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: to do with the outdoors, especially youth education.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Tyler, the Whitetail Hall of Fame. I don't know
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: if you were around when it was over in the
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: in a separate room over here in the corner. But
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: when they rebuilt the Civic Center, it's become part of
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: the main floor here. It's in the and when you
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: walk in the door, it's the far left corner. That's
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: where the White Tail Hall of Fame is. How do
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: you determine who gets to hang one on the wall
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: over there?
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: So there's a point scoring system. It's a minimum point
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: requirement for archery of one ten and that has to
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: be officially scored by the West Virginia DNR, and then
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: one thirty is the minimum for the rifle or gun.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: Section. It's interesting too, these were not all killed in
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: the past year. I mean many of these have been
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: killed for years.
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: And then there's some mounts up there that are thirty
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: thirty five years old and people just keep bringing them
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: back every year. And as long as you know it's
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: in the d NR system that it's been scored at
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: some point, then they're allowed hanging up.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: What is the what what do you get for hanging
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: for for bringing your mount down here and hanging it
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame? Is there a other than
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: the prestige if your in the Hall of Fame.
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: There's a few things. The biggest thing is a raffle.
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: There's a drawing for both the archery and rifle categories
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: for two hundred and fifty dollars gift card to Cabella's.
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: You also get a free T shirt and we're giving
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: away some patches as well.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: I got you, I got you, And a lot of guys.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: It's the same guys every year bringing their mouths in.
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: There are some guys that bring the same five six
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: deer in every year.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: And every time you bring you know, each head that
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: you bring in that qualifies you get another opportunity to
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: win the raffle tickets.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I'll just point out I don't have
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: one hanging in there because I haven't. I mean, you
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: have to meet those minimum requirements. Glenn. You've got like
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: eight back there, don't you wait.
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: Probably have to want the car.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: The only way I'd ever get one back there. Thirty
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: seven years we've been doing the show, Glenn. Well, you
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: all have been doing it, not I but I remember
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: the first time I came to the show. I lived
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: in Morgantown and I was not even the West Virginia
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Indoors didn't even exist. But I heard about it and
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: I thought, I want to go another and give give
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: that a try. It man. I was so impressed and
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: the way it is run is really cool. And then
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: eventually as I got the show developed and I came
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: down and became a vendor, so to speak. The amount
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: of help that your organization gives to vendors when they
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: come here, that's talked about on the show circuit all
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: over the country because a lot of these guys go
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: from show to show to show and they don't get
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: the kind of reception and hospitality that you all offer them.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: No, Chris, it's just West Virginia hospitality. That's all it is.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: We meet them at the door, We try to help
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: them find out whether their booth is help them take
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: everything to their booth and set it up. And it
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: just like Trevis and those guys they hang the mountain
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: A very careful with them and to thank the people
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: for bringing them. It's just West Virginia people, that's all.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Tyler It's good to meet you man, and I hope,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: I hope I didn't grill you too hard about the
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: White Tail Hall of Fame. Is there anything else that
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: you want people to know about that when they come
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: to see it today? Honestly, just just come take a
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: look at it.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: You know, if you've got things laying around the house,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: you know, mounts that you need or want people to
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• 1:04:27
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• 1:04:40
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• 1:04:42
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  Speaker 2: the charity auction here at the show. Back to some
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: of the vendors. We got here one of the most
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: popular booths that you will find, and I don't know
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: how it became that, but it is the Crazy Cucumber.
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  Speaker 2: Katie Varga is in charge of that. How are you, Katie?
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  Speaker 15: I'm good. How are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing well? Now? When did you all come up
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: with the idea of selling pickles at a show like this?
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  Speaker 16: We started in twenty fourteen, and our first year would
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 16: be eleven years ago, and we started here in twenty fifteen.
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  Speaker 2: Gollie, and I mean at some point during the day,
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  Speaker 2: at several points during the day, there'll be fourteen deep
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  Speaker 2: around your booth over there.
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  Speaker 15: That is crat Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Did that shock you how popular it was?
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  Speaker 15: It absolutely has. I mean it was. It was a
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 15: small dream that's turned into a big dream for.
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  Speaker 6: Me and my dad.
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  Speaker 2: Actually really so you and your dad put this together
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: as we start.
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  Speaker 15: Yep, me and my dad started together and then it's
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 15: just grown from there.
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  Speaker 2: Do you make the pickles we do? Where do you
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: get that many cucumbers?
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 15: Well, you have to wholesale them. From a bunch of places.
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  Speaker 2: I got you. And how many different varieties of pickles
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: do you sell?
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 15: We make twenty different kinds.
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  Speaker 2: Can you make them yourself? Yes, in your house in.
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  Speaker 15: Our licensed commercial kitchen.
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  Speaker 16: Okay, yes, not our house, but yes, we're licensed and
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 16: have a commercial kitchen.
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  Speaker 2: I got you. And where are you all? Where's that?
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  Speaker 2: Where are you all from?
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  Speaker 15: We're out of Johnstown, Ohio?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? And we were just talking. I have a cousin
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: who lives in Johnstown who you actually knew. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 2: the most West Virginia thing ever right there. So, and
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  Speaker 2: you started this in twenty fourteen. Is this your main
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: gig or do you have another job?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 15: No, this is my main gig.
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  Speaker 16: I actually have a nursing degree as well, and I
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  Speaker 16: worked at until twenty seventeen, and then in twenty seventeen
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  Speaker 16: I quit, And this is what I've been doing fully
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  Speaker 16: since then.
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  Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you what. As popular as they are,
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  Speaker 2: because I have friends who do not hunter fish and
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: their girls and they don't they have no interest in
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: anything here, but they're like, we're coming over to get pickles,
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  Speaker 2: and they'll just come and get like three or four
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  Speaker 2: tubs of those pickles.
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  Speaker 16: Oh absolutely, I mean that's what's been great for us.
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  Speaker 16: I mean, while this is a hunting and fishing show,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 16: we're also appealing to women and children at the same time.
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  Speaker 16: And so we're bringing more people in by getting them
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  Speaker 16: to come with their husbands and you'll.
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  Speaker 2: See them walking around just eating pickles. No, I'm not
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: I like pickles, but I don't like them that much.
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  Speaker 2: But what is the best selling pickle you have?
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  Speaker 16: So our number one seller is deal pickle pickle, but
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 16: I will say down here in West Virginia, everybody loves
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 16: sweet pickles. So our sweet heat, spicy bread and butter,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 16: and bread and butter have been flying off the shelf.
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  Speaker 2: And how did you come up with all these different
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: recipes and varieties?
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  Speaker 16: Just try on air and then like you know, I
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  Speaker 16: I see other people make other flavors that you may
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  Speaker 16: not have thought of.
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  Speaker 15: So we we buy, we test, and we just keep going.
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  Speaker 2: And what are some of the more unique ones.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 16: Well, right now we have a jalapeno line, which is
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 16: just amazing. Now that one did not make it down
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 16: here yet this year, but that's like a summertime one.
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  Speaker 16: We also have a new one coming out that's sweet
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  Speaker 16: with garlic.
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  Speaker 2: Wow? Okay, So and what are the are the any
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  Speaker 2: unusual ones that that people like? Is their birthday cake
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: pickles or something like that?
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  Speaker 16: No, no, there are there are somewhere in the world.
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  Speaker 16: I'm sure there like cool a pickles and stuff both.
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  Speaker 16: We really haven't dabbled into that yet.
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  Speaker 2: Say you don't do the really odd no, no, no
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: weird ones.
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  Speaker 15: We know what everybody likes and that's what we kind
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 15: of stick with.
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  Speaker 2: And how do you how many do you bring with
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: you when you come to a show like this?
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  Speaker 16: So this show we bought, we brought over one thousand
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 16: pounds of pickles, Holy can about two hundred buckets?
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  Speaker 2: How many shows do you do a year?
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 15: We set up and sell at over four hundred shows
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  Speaker 15: a year.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: Holy cal Yeah, that's you're somewhere ever weekend, aren't we are?
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  Speaker 15: And sometimes multiple times?
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: When do you find time to make the well during
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: the week.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 15: Week we do production on Mondays and Tuesdays.
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  Speaker 2: What's the furthest you guys travel to sell pickles?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 16: Well, this is three hours from our house. We go
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 16: to the Kentucky State Fair, which is for four and
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 16: a half hours from our house.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, and then it's just kind of a radius
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  Speaker 2: that this is about as far as as you go out.
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  Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean we would travel, but we've been really
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 16: blessed with great farmers markets in our area, so those
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 16: have been really good for us.
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  Speaker 15: So that's where we stay at mainly.
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  Speaker 2: I got you, and and you said that you wholesale
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: these are they locally grown there in the Ohio area,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: because that's that's farm country.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 16: So as much as you can, but with cucumbers, you
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 16: only really get one good season unless you have big greenhouses.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 15: So some come from Ohio, some are coming from other places.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: I got you, I got you. Well, Katie Varga is
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: the lady at the Crazy Cucumber. She's the pickle lady,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: and everybody comes here to grab a pack of pickles.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: And if you're wondering about what a lot of the
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: ladies are doing at the show, they're picking up the pickles.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, thanks so much, because I know, thank you
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: for at least having the time to come up here.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: I wanted to talk to you because it's such a
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: popular booth and an unusual item that is that is
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: sold here. Oh yeah, and I know you're going to
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: be so busy here in about an hour that I
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: couldn't have pulled you away to do it.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 15: So thanks for coming up, oh anytime.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: Thank you. All right, Katie Varga there from the Crazy Cucumber.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: Talk to her. She's the pickle lady. And oh she
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: even has a has a cheering audience out here. I
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: like that. Let's shift gears now to a guy who
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: has not got an audience. Bobby Bauer Pro River Outfitters.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: What are you doing man?
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  Speaker 17: Well, I'm thinking about having some pickles for breakfast, you know,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 17: before it gets too busy. It's pretty amazing how many
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 17: people line up to get pickles. It really is a
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 17: pretty constant flow of pickle people by the booth all
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 17: day every day. So if you guys want pickles, you
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 17: better come get them quick.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: When I when I have to leave the booth to
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: go out to the lobby, I try to take another
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: route because you can't get by the pickle booth there's
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: too many people, and by Sunday mid day the floor
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: is so sticky that day you kind of get stuck there.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: I think they might have that as part of their marketing.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: Employee get the sticky people can't get by. They got
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: to spend their money. Before they keep moving. Now you're
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: you're telling tales out of school.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 17: Now imagine that. I mean, I'm a fishing guy. You know,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 17: thinks that you know, by tomorrow will be a whole
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 17: new story.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: How how was your year last year? Did you catch
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: a lot of fish? It was out of sight?
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 17: You know, we had really really low water. It was
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 17: super clear, and you know, we like the we like
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 17: the low water.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: It was amazing.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 17: It was probably the best numbers I've had in the
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 17: last decades. So you know, the spawns have been good,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 17: and the New River is is on fire. The a
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 17: lot of small fish, so that's good because they're getting bigger.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 17: So it was one of the better days with better
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 17: years we've had.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: We obviously talk a lot about smallmouth on the New
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: River because that is the species that draws people in,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: but we would be remiss if we didn't talk about
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: the work that has been done to bring along the walleyes.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: The walleye fishing is on points.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 17: It's hard to go out and just target walleye except
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 17: for it in the spring and things are below sandstone
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 17: falls or kanal falls where their spawning grounds are. But
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 17: you know, we're catching big walleye on a regular basis.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 17: So you know, although we're hunting hunting small mouth, you know,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 17: we're hooking up some nice walleye and they're getting to
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 17: be you know, a twenty two twenty four inch walleye
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 17: is not that uncommon now.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: Done a lot of studies, a lot of stories on
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: this over the year. Mark Scott, who just retired from
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: the DNR. This was one of his pet projects when
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: he started. But they isolated a gene. The smart guys
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: at Virginia Tech and their their wildlife and fisheries, some
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: researchers figured out that there is a gene that is
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: unique to the New River that had had largely been
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: lost and on what was here now was the new
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: was the Lake Erie strain, and those aren't nearly as hardy.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: But once they were able to isolate that particular gene
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: and replicate it and then suddenly reproduce them, what they
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: found was that those walleyes in the New River and
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: that New River strain, they grow so much faster and
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: they're so much more aggressive. So in two or three
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: years you're gonna have an eighteen to twenty four inch
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: walley it's gonna tear your arm off.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 17: Yeah, it's awesome. I've followed Mark's projects since the since
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 17: the he had introduced it years ago, and it's it's worked.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 17: It's really neat that they brought those fish back. And yeah,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 17: they grow quick and they fight a lot harder than
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 17: normal walleye typically catch one.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: It fights for a second. But these things are kind
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: of scrappy. Yeah, you along with the guidework that you do,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: your main business is really selling rafts. Yeah, I design
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: and manufacture rafts.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 17: We do have a warehouse in Fayetteville, Oakhill area, so
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 17: where a company called Rocky Mountain Rafts. We have about
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 17: ten of us now working in West Virginia. We migrated
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 17: from Colorado to West Virginia and going really well. I've
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 17: got one of my brand new rafts that just came
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 17: out this week. So this is the first showing of
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 17: the new Flow one thirty two fishing boat. It's like
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 17: half the price of most of the competitors. We're gonna
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 17: turn it upside down. It's a neat boat. The people
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 17: have been super psyched about it.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: One of the things that's really important when you're fishing,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: at least on a float trip is comfort as opposed
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: to the white water guys. It's the ideas to get wet, yeah,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: and to stay dry is the idea when you're fishing.
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  Speaker 2: What kind of modifications do you make to the rafts
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  Speaker 2: to make sure that those are the two goals that
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: are met. Yeah.
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  Speaker 17: This boat that we have at the show, the new raft,
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  Speaker 17: it has a drop stitch floor, so if you know
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 17: what a stand up paddle board is, it's a solid
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  Speaker 17: inflatable piece, so really easy to hand on, a really
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  Speaker 17: comfortable We have padded swivel seats. We're into maximum comfort
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  Speaker 17: for sure when we're out there fishing.
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  Speaker 2: Could you spend a bunch of time.
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  Speaker 17: We also have stand up paddle bars and kayaks and
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  Speaker 17: inner tubes that you can snow or snow or float
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  Speaker 17: and you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, kind of a full line of products. Well, and
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: standing up is so important when you're when you're talking
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: about the fishing because it's a lot easier fish standing
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: up that' sit down, particularly if you've got a big
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: one on the line, without a doubt. So the drop
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: stitch floor is just a really stable platform.
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  Speaker 17: And we have if you come by the show, the
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  Speaker 17: frames have leaning bars and uh, it's very really custom
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 17: outfitted and real proud of them the price is right
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 17: as well. So we got a little store up in
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  Speaker 17: Faanville and we're selling boats all around. We're really the
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  Speaker 17: only raft dealer in the Eastern United States.
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  Speaker 17: You know, it's it's brought a lot more people and
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 17: it's a different kind of crowd than we had, you know.
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• 1:15:34
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• 1:15:37
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the West Virginia Hunting and Fishing Show.
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  Speaker 2: A special edition of West Virginia out Doors were live
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  Speaker 2: on the show floor. The doors are open here at
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: the Hunting Fishing Show until nine o'clock tonight. Hours tomorrow
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  Speaker 2: are ten until five. Twelve dollars is the admission price,
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• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: the vendors on the show floor here. And one of
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• 1:19:52
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• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: I've gotten a couple of opportunities to fish in Canada,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: and Gordon Bowen with Long Point Lodge is one of
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: those guys that can provide you with that opportunity. Gordon's
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: could see them. Man, come up on the mic there
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: a little bit for me. There we go. Where exactly
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: is your camp located? Long Point Lodge.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 24: It's about eight hours eight and a half hours straight
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 24: north of Buffalo.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 6: It's seventeen hour drive from here.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: I got you, and so you'd leave early in the morning,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: you get there late in the evening.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, about seventeen hour drive from.
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  Speaker 2: How how I remember when I came to Canada and
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: this has been ten fifteen years ago, but there was
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: a lot of people trying to the border is where
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: things slow down because obviously it's a border. How hard
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: is it to get through there? Now?
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 24: Oh, the border is really simple now as long as
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 24: you've got your just your passports, there's no problem crossing
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 24: the border whatsoever. And it's not near as like holiday weekends,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 24: yes it's bad. But if a person comes across, like
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 24: on a Friday, Friday afternoons.
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  Speaker 6: And stuff, that's really good.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 24: Saturday mornings, it can be a hassle getting across because
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 24: when people cross, and like most of our guests from
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 24: down here leave on Friday and drive up and maybe
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 24: get as far as Toronto stay overnight.
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  Speaker 6: But they tried to get across the border on the Fridays.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah do uh. And and I know once
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: you get north of Toronto it starts to get a
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: little less populated up there. Oh yeah.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 24: But like if the highways are busier now, like that's
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 24: the thing, Like it takes a little longer now because
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 24: there's more trucks on the road, yeah, and more traffic
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 24: now compared to was say twenty years ago when you came.
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  Speaker 2: Up right now. The one thing was though, I mean,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: these aren't dirt roads. They're paved. Even even in the
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: middle of nowhere. You got paved roads up there.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 24: And now with that new highway around Toronto makes all
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 24: the difference in the world because years ago, say twenty
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 24: five years ago, when we used to come down here,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 24: these shows people went through Toronto and they just said
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 24: it was a nightmare, so they would never come back.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 24: Now you take that etr that pay highway right as
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 24: a toll road. Just expensive, but it saved you an
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 24: hour and you don't even see the city, right.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: And the funny thing is when I did that, they
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: you don't have to. You don't even row, as you're
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: being told. They just send you a bill, they check
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: out your license. And for so many years I kept
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: getting a bill from those folks for two cents, and
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: I kept sending them two cents, and I'd get another
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: bill for two cents. I was like, and finally I
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: was just like, you know what, if you want to
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: come and put me in your Canadian jail for being
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: a dibnor, go ahead. I'm not sending you any more
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: coins through the mail.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 24: But the point bad thing is if a person don't
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 24: pay for these tolls and stuff. Yeah, sometimes if you
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 24: go across the border, that's all on your passportes because
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 24: that is an unpaid uh huh. I think same as
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 24: like now when we come down like on seventy nine
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 24: or ninety up in Buffalo, before you had stopped, you
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 24: paid your toll. Now it's electronic, just like it is
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 24: up at our place, they just send you a bill. Yeah,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 24: So if I don't pay that toll, if I go
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 24: to come back to the States again, I can't cross
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 24: the border because they got an outstanding.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: Oh geez me, Oh goodness, I may be an outlaw
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: in Canada. I probably I'll check that out. But before
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: I go, tell me a little bit about your about
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: Long Point Lodge. You offer folks and if they're going
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: to come fishing with you, what are they like?
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 24: We have, like I said, like a hunting and fishing
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 24: camp as well as family vacations, like we do the
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 24: spring black bear hunt, and then we do a lot
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 24: of troupe fishing in the spring. July and August is
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 24: more family groups. And then we do it like then
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 24: we got the pike walleyed bass as the weather's better
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 24: for the families. You don't have the black flies like
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 24: in July and August like you do in June. Then
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 24: the fall we have our spring small game season. We
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 24: have our fall black bear hunt, and then we also
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 24: have the fall moose hunt. But don't we don't cater
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 24: to none residents for the moose hunts because we just
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 24: can't get the tags for the moose hunt I was.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: Going to say, how hard are those to get? I
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: figure for moose, they're they're pretty well regulated, aren't.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 24: Unit forty where we are is probably the worst one
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 24: in Ontario to get a tag.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 6: Out of them?
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: So do you have a lot of moose there? I
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: mean you do that?
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 6: We had lost for a long time.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 24: And then when they did all the new clear cuts
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 24: and stuff and with the ATVs and everything, that really
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 24: hurt the moose population for ten years.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 6: But then they change the tag system and it's really
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 6: brought the moose population back up again. Like I had
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 6: a right in her yard about three months ago, off
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 6: and through the yard.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: That's what the bro sure you need to take the
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: picture of that. You never had the cavern?
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: What about the bear? What is the procedure? Do you
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: have to draw for a bear tag? Or are they
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: over the counter? Yes?
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 24: Over the counter. As soon as you as soon as
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 24: you buy your bear bear license, that is your that
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 24: is your tag, okay, and you're you're you're allowed to
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 24: one bear. And so when the guys come up to
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 24: our place, they can buy the license online. They can
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 24: stop at dating store and get their license. And then
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 24: when you get to our place, then it's just a
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 24: matter of filling out the paperwork.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 6: Because a non resident.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 24: Can't just go down the road and shoot a bear anywhere.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 24: He can only shoot his bear on my bear management area,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 24: like I pay for two hundred and fifty five thousand acres.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: It's the size area that I good, gracious, that's a
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: county here, But I'm.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 6: The only one that the only outfitter that can bear
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 6: bait in that area.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say these are all over bait, I
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: guess because up there the country is so thick it's
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: it'd be difficult to stop one.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 24: Like even with dogs. Years ago, we tried with the
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 24: people brought dogs up. Now nobody allows a dog up
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 24: there to hunt because ninety percent of the time you
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 24: guys don't have their dogs.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 6: When they're going back home, ye get lost.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: They're still running one hundred miles away. You can see
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: them on the GPS, but you can't get there from here.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: So that's that's that's kind of how it goes. How
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: is the fishing and what are the accommodations when that
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: when you come up where you staying.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 24: The fishing usually that I always said best fishing is
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 24: last week in May, the month of June because the
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 24: water's cooler and the fish are more aggressive. But the
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 24: thing is people have got to realize, like with family groups,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 24: that's the way you don't have them in June because
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 24: the black fly season.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 6: You know, it's just if you want good fishing.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that Yeah, the the industrial strength off is
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: like the cologne of the north Woods up there.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 24: But then like all the cabins are all all like
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 24: have everything in them their self. Stuff sook like like,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 24: I mean, you've got your electric fridge, you got a shower, inferator, No,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 24: no generators, those who hydro electric and stuff.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a deal breaker for the wives. She's like,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: if I can't take a shower, I'm not going I'm
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: not staying out there for a week with no shower.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, you could take a bathroom the lake.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: I've done that before.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, especially when the power goes off.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tad cool. You won't stay in there long.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: But but at least you look.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 6: At the end of July, our lake temperature gets eighty degrees.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: How's it really? Wow? That's that that's really amazing. And
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: uh and I guess you said it's a pike Walleye
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: and Smallmouth.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 24: Or you're that's abdominally what we have, but then we
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 24: I do have boats on a couple of small lakes
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 24: for Speckled Troat as well, but we've got boats on
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 24: like eleven different lakes other than our main lake, so
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 24: you can go to the different lake every day.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: And that was a great time to go to Canada
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: because the exchange rate on the money, at least if
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: you're an American, a.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 6: Dollar forty to a dollar forty five right now.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 24: So any holiday you're looking save your holidays, a thousand
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 24: dollars hall day will take.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 6: Forty percent off. Wow, so you're paying your trip, you
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 6: can leave here and drive all the way up to
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 6: where we are.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 24: You're gasoline and you could get a motel room free
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 24: your charge with what you're getting on your exchange rate.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: Wow. There wasn't like that the last time I went.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: It was the other way around. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: that now now's the time. So if you're looking to
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: go to Canada, now, now's the time to book the
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: trip for sure, for sure, sure, And I don't know
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: if it's going to change between now and the summer
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: when you might go.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 24: It doesn't it doesn't go up and down like you
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 24: don't see it drop like fifteen cents over night sort
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 24: of deal, like you know, like it takes a long
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 24: time for it sure, because they could say like this
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 24: for ten years, you know, right.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Gordon Bow and Long Point Lodge. Check him out.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: He's got fishing and bear hunting in Canada and you
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: can you can talk to him about a trip that'll
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  Speaker 2: be a lot of fun. I can promise you you
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  Speaker 2: won't regret going up there and trying this out. Gordon's
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  Speaker 2: coldn't see you buddy already. All right, take it easy.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: Let's shift gears. Now talk to another long time friend
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: of the show. See Gordon Bugsy from Bugsy's Baits is here. Bugsy,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: how are you man? Doing awesome? Chris, thanks for having
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: me again, old Boon County boy here but now comes
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: to us via Detroit. Yeah, I like making the trip
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: down here. So yeah, you guys, so so you're still
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: working in Detroit, but you've got this the Bugsy's Baits
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  Speaker 2: as your side hustle. Is that right, Yes, sir, I've
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: had it for about eight or nine years now, Chris.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: I worked for an automotive company, as you know. Christ
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: were headquarters, which is called the Lands. I got almost
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: thirty one years there, but loved doing the fishing ower business.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: We've got a various assortment of baits to cover pretty
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: much any cadence that you might want to use. You know. Yeah,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: we got a lot of drop shot baits, got a
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: lot of creature baits if you want to throw a jig.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: We got some swim baits over there. Took a lot
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: of pride in adding the trick worms. You got a
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: six sense an eight inch trick worm that we haded
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: last season. I think you saw some of those at
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: some of the shows last year. But any any techniques
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: the guys are used around here on the rivers and lakes,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: we pretty much got it covered. Trying to cater sort
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: of West Virginia crew. We got Rob here with us,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: Rob Cheripica. We got Will diffin Ball, we got a
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: dust in the bow haul in which you know all
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: those guys and the course they've all been on the
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: show with me. Yeah, they've all been on the show.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: We got Dana Brown two who's heads up the Youth Nation.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: We don't put him on the show. That's okay, that's
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: not true. We have had Dana on before. How do
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: you come up with the designs?
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 8: Is it?
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: Is it a collective of all these guys that you
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: just mentioned. Did they put their heads together with this
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: or is it out of your brain? How's it work?
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: At little of both. I kind of throw the ideas
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: out there and try to see if it fits their
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: fishing techniques and their cadence and you know how they
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: use the baits, and you know, you got to fine
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: tune it. You know, you got to really know, uh,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: the streams and the rivers and the lakes and the
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: water clarity for you know, for the for the callers
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: that we got to choose that will work. I mean,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: if you come to show and I don't have the
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: callers that you normally use, you're not obviously going to
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: a buy a product. So we have spend a lot
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: of time trying to figure all that stuff out amongst
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: all those guys. Plus you know, a normal customer that
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: comes in. You know, I asked them what you use?
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: You know, I put that in the back of my mind,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: so I may add or delete a collar just to
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: substitute it out so I've got that coverage, you know. Yeah,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: how how is the How is the development of these.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, when you how do you come up with
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: a new color or a new combination of flakes and colors. Well,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: basically we try to figure out how much flash we
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: want in it. And usually, Chris, when I look at collars,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: you know, there's bright fluorescent colors, there's dark collars, and
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: there's your flashy colors, and then there's of course white, okay,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: and white, it's a whole different animal. I'm of the
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: opinion that white is probably universal. You can use it
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: in any application with any bait, because it's the most
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: natural color I think it is, and it works in
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: the really cold temperatures as well. Right, And you'll find
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: most anglers don't really have a whole lot of white
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: in their tackle box. So we try to put that
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: out there and one of them and tell them that
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: they need white or some version of white, smoky or
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: an off white or an ivory or something like that.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at the if you look
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: at what fish feed on, there's there's some variation of
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: white in it.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: So that's why I've always been of the opinion, And
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: I mean I don't catch a lot of fish, but
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: I've always been of the opinion that you're probably your
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: odds are better if you if you're working something white. Yeah,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: you'll not have this conversation before. But uh, the the flash.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: Sometimes the flashy collars are too flashy. The dark collars
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: are too dark, Okay, And and and basically white. Like
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: I said, it's the safest collar and it works in
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: almost any lake, any stream, any river well, and flash
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: depends on the mood of the fish. I mean, you know,
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: early morning low light conditions are a lot different than
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: bluebird skies in the middle of the day when the
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: sun's out bright. I mean, those fish are going to
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: be low, you know, under something. So we try to
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: figure out how much flake we want in it. Do
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: we want to do a two collar laminate? I very
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: seldom try to stay away. I probably should rephrase that
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: most of the time I stay away from a three
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: collar laminate because it just gets too busy, you know. Yeah,
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: we've now dived way too technical into the bait building
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: business and that everybody's going, what are they talking about? Yeah,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: we were talking about three color laminates. So we'll cut
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: it off right there. But if folks want to come by,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: what is the price of a pack of your baits.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: So what we offer Chris is a many bulk pack
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: of baits and they're twelve dollars a pack. But if
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: you want to take a whole handful, we do six
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: packs for sixty bucks. We give you a deal, and
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: most of the packs have either a twenty count in
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: them or a fifteen count, so it's a really good
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: value and they're pretty durable. I mean there's some of
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: these fancy baits you buy and one fish it's done right,
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: and you only bought you only got like six in
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: the pack, and it was like twenty bucks. Yeah, y
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: proch a little better deal there, purpose you stay away
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: from that. We want the baits to hold up and
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: catch at least anywhere from four to eight fish per bait.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: Story about that. We were talking to the fella from
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: Canada here a moment ago when I went up there fishing.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: We had one color of a bait that they were
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: really tearing up, and we only had one pack of
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: them pink. No, they were actually like a Chartrou's green,
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: like a really bright kneon green, and literally we were
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: down to that pack. We used every bait in there,
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: and we were literally down to putting just a speck
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: of it on the tip of the hook and still
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: getting bites. In fact, once I saw that one had
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: gotten off and was about three feet of water, I
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: got out of the boat and went down and got
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: it and brought it back up. So the next time
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: we went back to Canada, my son Hank and I
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: we went to Cabela's and I guess we bought fifteen
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: of those fifteen packs of those spent a fortune. They
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: didn't touch them, they didn't get a bite on any
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: of them. There was just that day. It was the
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: right bait at the right time, and that's sometimes how
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: it works. Yes, so you got to have them covered. Yeah, Buggsy,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: it's good to see you, buddy, And stop by and
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: see him. He actually right here in the bullpen of
• 1:34:01
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• 1:34:03
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• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: you all are the booth where the kids come and
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: do the casting arm of that. Yes, and it was
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: really really busy yesterday. We saw so many kids and
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: we actually ran into a lot of kids and never
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: picked up a fishing rod or a real whatever. So
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: we're going great, Buggsy, always get to see you my friend.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you Chris. He has Buggsy from Bugsy's Baites. We
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  Speaker 1: You're listening to a special edition of West Virginia Outdoors
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  Speaker 1: live from the West Virginia Hunting and Fishing Show. Let's
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  Speaker 1: return to the show floor. Here's Chris Lawrence.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to West Virginia Outdoors. We are live at
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  Speaker 2: be on the air till noon. I'll be in the
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• 1:37:55
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• 1:37:57
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• 1:38:00
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  Speaker 2: I will be tied up about five o'clock though, on
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: the stage here because the West Virginia Trophy Hunters have
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: their charity auction at that time Chad Strickland and I.
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  Speaker 2: Chad's the auctioneer and I'll be the MC of that event,
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  Speaker 2: so we really look forward to that. Bring your check
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• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: really nice guns to bit on there. The auction is
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: always a fantastic place to get yourself a good deal
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: on some of the trips. You might be talking to
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: outfitters about here this weekend. Ask your outfitter if they
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  Speaker 2: be able to get the trip that you're talking about
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  Speaker 2: for a significantly reduced price, and then all of the
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  Speaker 2: proceeds will go to outdoor youth education and conservation. That's
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  Speaker 2: the way the charity auction works. Speaking of charity, the
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: Poker River Hunting and Fishing Club, Chris Wrow is with
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: us today. Chris, are you man? I'm great, Chris, how
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: are you good morning? I am well. You were adamant
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  Speaker 2: about wanting to talk about the Poker River Hunting and
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  Speaker 2: Fishing Club. Tell me a little bit about that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we are a family in campground Hunting, Fishing Recreation club.
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  Speaker 4: We're really excited about our reservation over there over in Poku,
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  Speaker 4: which is right out the end of DuPont Road, and
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  Speaker 4: we have everything an outdoorsman would like to have for
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  Speaker 4: the whole family.
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  Speaker 2: What is the history of this is? Was this a
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: club back for one of the chemical companies?
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 9: It was?
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  Speaker 4: It was the old DuPont employees Okay club and it
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 4: did turned over to an employee or a member's only club.
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  Speaker 4: So we have just a wonderful place out there. We have, really, Chris,
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 4: we have probably the best long range rifle shoot.
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  Speaker 2: How long is it?
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 4: Six over six? Hundred and thirty yards.
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  Speaker 2: I could have used that. A couple of months ago,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: I was looking for a place to get sighted in
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: at three hundred I couldn't find one. Well, couldn't you
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: know where to find it? Now we certainly have that.
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  Speaker 4: We have a pistol range, really nice pistol race. We
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 4: have skeet shooting range as well, and for the whole family,
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  Speaker 4: we have we have a two hundred and fifty thousand
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 4: gallon swimming pool and everything else that you would see
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  Speaker 4: in a campground. We have five lakes that we stocked
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 4: with trout and catfish throughout the year and have a
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 4: lot of fun activities for the family and the outdoors.
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  Speaker 4: We got a new archery range.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're you have to be a member to
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: take advantage of all these amenities.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely. Now, once a year we have a membership drive.
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  Speaker 4: This year it's June seventh, which is open to the public,
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 4: so you can come out and enjoy it and see
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 4: everything that we have, but uh, yeah, it's a members only.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 4: We've got a booth set up over here and we
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 4: would love to talk to anybody. If someone who's interested
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 4: in becoming a member and bringing their family, we'd love
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 4: to have.
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  Speaker 2: Them out there. Can you what if you wanted to
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: if you were a member, can you have say a
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: reunion or a party or something there we have We
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: have an indoor facility that we rent out, shelters that
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: we rent out.
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  Speaker 4: We have the opportunity for anybody to come in and again,
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 4: if you're a member and say your child wants to
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 4: bring a couple of people over to the pool this summer,
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 4: we have a really small fee for guests. You can
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 4: bring gas in as long as you're there with them.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 4: It's a wonderful place. We also have forty eight long
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 4: term camper spots that you're able to sign up for.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 4: It's a it's a great family funds.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: Kind of like a retreat. You know, you've had enough
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: of Charleston for the week and you want to go
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: out there to spend the weekend out there doing those
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: kinds of activities.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely, it's a wonderful place to come out and
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 4: enjoy the summer.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: What is the what is the cost to be a member?
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: And are there various degrees of membership of them? Is
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: there individual versus family or in order.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 4: To get the pool the whole shooting match? And also
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 4: that I wanted to mention we have five hundred acres
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 4: that you can ride on side by side, nature walk, hunt,
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 4: whatever you want to do. But it's four twenty five
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 4: for the entire family for the entire year. And then
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 4: we have gun Range a range membership which includes our
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 4: archery range, and it's one hundred and eighty five dollars
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 4: per year. Our our year starts April first and goes
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 4: through March thirty first, So yeah, it's it's not very expensive.
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  Speaker 4: With all the things that you get and and all
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  Speaker 4: the things that you can take advantage of out there,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's really a monument a minimum amount.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, if your shooting enthusiasm that range membership, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna not gonna find anything like that around here.
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  Speaker 4: You're not gonna find anything.
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  Speaker 2: And and it's maintained. I suppose that the shooting points
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  Speaker 2: are very well.
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  Speaker 4: We'll absolutely maintain. We have one of our board members
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  Speaker 4: that that absolutely loves that range. It's all covered, got
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  Speaker 4: nice shooting benches, it's always maintained, mode we needed, targets
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  Speaker 4: are good. It's a really nice place. If you like
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  Speaker 4: to shoot, you really want to come out and check
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  Speaker 4: it out.
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  Speaker 2: It's the Poker, River Hunting Fishing Clubs stop buy and
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  Speaker 2: talk to him. They got a booth here and buy
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  Speaker 2: a chance on that side by side they' giving a
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  Speaker 2: way as well. So good to see you, Chris, Thanks
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  Speaker 2: for coming by. Take care all right, Chris Withrow with
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  Speaker 2: a Poker, River Hunting and Fishing Club. Let's shift gears right.
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  Speaker 2: You're not Ryan David Walls is with us. I was
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: supposed to have Ryan on next, but you had to
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: pinch it for Ryan. David Walls with Ridge Runner Rods
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  Speaker 2: is with us. Ain't doing man? All right? You posted
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: a picture on Facebook the other day of your shop
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: which is actually inside your house. Yeah, it's actually across
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  Speaker 2: the street. Now we've got to We just opened up
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  Speaker 2: January one. Oh okay, I didn't realize that. I thought
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  Speaker 2: this was your your basement, So that that's the shop.
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  Speaker 2: Then how about that seven square feet? I was proud
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  Speaker 2: to see a radio in there. I'll tell you that
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  Speaker 2: it's old schools. Yeah yeah, you had the had the
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  Speaker 2: radio in there. It and it's a place where you
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  Speaker 2: custom build rods. I had no idea how how versatile
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  Speaker 2: you can be with this. You can you can get
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: a guy a rod or a galla rod that is
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: really special and is really personalized to their their taste
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: as far as what they wanted the rod, but also
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: the markings on it. Yes, dud, just about anything. Anytime
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: collar decals the nude. Big thing now is memorial rods
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: getting it, you know, with a decal of the birth
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: and the date or believe it or not, we're putting
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: ashes in it really so someone's creamated. You can either
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: put the ashes inside the rod or actually in the epoxy.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: How about that? So I had you make one for
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  Speaker 2: me earlier this year, my friend Randy Mayze. It was
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: the baseball coach at WVU is a huge fly fisherman,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: and when he retired, I had you make one for
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: him with and it had the flying WV and it
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: had some baseballs on it and his name and it
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: was it was a nineweight fly rod, which I did
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: some recon on that from his wife and found out
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: that was the one rod weight he did not have. Right, boy,
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  Speaker 2: he was pretty excited and he sent me a picture
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  Speaker 2: of a fish he had caught with it. He was
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: pretty excited about that rod. He was really nice. And
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: that's the success stories we like hearing. Yeah, when they
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: catch them. How do you where do the materials come from?
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: Where do the blanks come from? How much of this
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: do you actually build and Tays Valley and how much
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: comes from you know, a raw materials that you bring in.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: Most of my stuff is pre built raw materials. I've
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: got five different distributors. You've got some that is actually
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: still here in the United States, but a lot of
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: it is import and then we just assemble everything that
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: we get. It's really a complex thing to do if
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: you have the raw materials E. P. H challenges things
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  Speaker 2: like that. Sure, sure, Well, when we think about known
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: names in the rod business, Saint Croix, g Loomis, you
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: know some of those bigger names, those higher end products,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: are these along that level? Those are these are high
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: end rods basically the same stuff that you would buy
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: in those in those range. Right. The mincs that we
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: buy is blanks that are made for us. But we
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: can get G. Loomis blanks, Saint Croix blanks, we can
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  Speaker 2: build on exact same thing. All we would be doing
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: is telling it to your needs. Yeah, the type of handling,
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: so it's custom made, it's custom made, the type of
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: grips you want, the type of Uh, if you want
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: it to be a certain length, that's custom where you
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: can't go in a big box store and get that.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: So that's what we do for people. Yeah, and uh,
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: what's the average price of one of these? When you're
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: looking at that average rod right now? Like I've got
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: show specials over here and stuff, you're looking at one
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: oh nine to one point fifty or an average bass
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: rod something like that. Wow, trout rod's a little bit cheaper.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: Fly rods are usually a little bit more because they
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: are longer, a little bit more finesse, even for the
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: even for those high end blanks like Loomis and Saint
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: Croia thumbus. Now, if you want a high end blank,
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: it all depends upon what I can get the blank for.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: Uh Huh. If they are cheaper, we don't. We don't
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: try to gouge a person. We keep at savings for you. Sure,
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: I got you so? And how would they You have
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: the booth here at the Hunting and Fishing Show. They
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: can just come by and talk to you and see
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: the various ones. And like you said, it could be
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: a bass rod, it could be a trout rode, it
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: could be a fly rod. You have all of them.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: Got them all catfish, muskie. We do deep sea fishing rods. Wow,
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: so we do the whole gamut. Stop buy and see him.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: It's called Ridge Runner Rods and David Walls is his name,
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: and he does really good work. I can attest to
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: that he's done something for me. Dave good. See you man,
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. Appreciate that we've got more to come
• 1:47:16
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• 1:47:18
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