Latest / The Skol Hop / NFL Rule Changes and a great chat with Dustin Baker and Sal Spice | TSH Ep. 86
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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, Ay, Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
- 0:04Speaker 1: of the School Hot I'm Evan and I'm Austin. We're
- 0:06Speaker 1: just a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking
- 0:08Speaker 1: beer talking about the Vikings, Yeah, we do. And tonight
- 0:11Speaker 1: we had yet another great beer from Big Grove Brewery.
- 0:14Speaker 1: Tonight we tried the Wild Eddie West Coast Ipa. I'm
- 0:18Speaker 1: really excited for our listeners to hear of thoughts about
- 0:21Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, super good beer. We also talked about
- 0:24Speaker 1: some of the basically brand new as of like today,
- 0:28Speaker 1: rule changes that are happening in the NFL.
- 0:31Speaker 2: Pretty exciting times.
- 0:32Speaker 3: Yeah, how cruel of it for the NFL to release
- 0:35Speaker 3: some pretty pivotal rule changes on April Fool's Day when
- 0:39Speaker 3: you don't know what to believe. But other than that,
- 0:42Speaker 3: the meat of our episode today is that we had
- 0:45Speaker 3: a great conversation with friend of the friend of the show,
- 0:48Speaker 3: Dustin Baker and new friend of the show, South Spice,
- 0:51Speaker 3: and that was a lot of fun. Yeah, we definitely
- 0:54Speaker 3: had a great time with both of them. We hope
- 0:58Speaker 3: that you'll check that part out, and we hope that
- 1:00Speaker 3: you'll grab a cold one and join us School.
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- 2:51Speaker 3: So yeah, for listeners, we are recording on April Fool's Day,
- 2:55Speaker 3: so we've been dodging breaking news and jokes all day
- 2:59Speaker 3: left and right. I'm sure you've seen them as well.
- 3:01Speaker 3: So I've seen so many Aaron Rodgers. Oh my gosh,
- 3:04Speaker 3: it's sick. So done with that, and watch it actually
- 3:07Speaker 3: happen eventually too. But if it does happen, we can
- 3:11Speaker 3: drown our sorrows.
- 3:12Speaker 1: Let's drink some beer. Let's drink some beer. We've got
- 3:16Speaker 1: another Big Grove beer. I think we mentioned it last week.
- 3:19Speaker 1: Big Grove was generous enough to give us a whole
- 3:22Speaker 1: bunch of beer, like a small like flat of beer essentially,
- 3:28Speaker 1: and then some It felt.
- 3:29Speaker 2: Like it was kind of overflowing.
- 3:32Speaker 1: So we're gonna be trying some Big Grove beers here
- 3:34Speaker 1: for the next couple of weeks. This week, we've got
- 3:37Speaker 1: the Wild Eddie, which is a West Coast ipa coming
- 3:40Speaker 1: in at seven percent.
- 3:41Speaker 3: Yeah, this is no joke. I believe I had tried
- 3:45Speaker 3: this recently. I think I think it's included in one
- 3:48Speaker 3: of their variety packs, because I'm a sucker for a good,
- 3:52Speaker 3: you know, twelve pack of variety beers from breweries, especially
- 3:56Speaker 3: Big Grove, and they have their Eddie pack, and I
- 3:59Speaker 3: think this one was included in a variety of their
- 4:02Speaker 3: Eddie pack. But now I'm kind of second guessing that
- 4:06Speaker 3: because it's pretty new. The Wild Eddie is relatively new,
- 4:10Speaker 3: so I don't know have you have you for sure
- 4:12Speaker 3: tried this one or not?
- 4:13Speaker 2: I have not, but I would like to show you
- 4:16Speaker 2: my pooray that.
- 4:17Speaker 3: Yeah, look at this man. Some would look at that
- 4:20Speaker 3: and be like, what a terrible poor, there's so much
- 4:22Speaker 3: head to that thing. No, that's a solid poor.
- 4:26Speaker 1: I think, like, if I'm not mistaken, you kind of
- 4:28Speaker 1: get rid of some of the carbonation and get down
- 4:31Speaker 1: to more of the beers.
- 4:32Speaker 3: It's just more of an aromatic experience, as if I
- 4:35Speaker 3: know what I'm talking about. But you're supposed to have
- 4:37Speaker 3: a little bit. It's not to the point where you're
- 4:39Speaker 3: just hard pouring.
- 4:40Speaker 5: Some beers you.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Do, like a guinness or yeah, a stout you just yeah,
- 4:45Speaker 1: or a nitro, but yeah, most beers you got to
- 4:48Speaker 1: respect it enough to let it get let it breathe
- 4:50Speaker 1: a little bit, especially IPAs so without further ado school. Yeah,
- 5:02Speaker 1: that's a solid IPA. Oh yeah, I like really citrusy,
- 5:05Speaker 1: citrusy and hoppy. Yeah, yep, that's it. Those are the
- 5:08Speaker 1: best ways to describe it. They don't have a description
- 5:10Speaker 1: on here, I don't think.
- 5:11Speaker 4: I think the closest they have to a description is
- 5:13Speaker 4: on the side they say bright and bold.
- 5:15Speaker 2: I would agree with that. Yeah, that's good.
- 5:17Speaker 3: That's a good description. A little hazy, but you can
- 5:21Speaker 3: kind of see through it a little bit, which is
- 5:22Speaker 3: not not a bad thing by any means. Clear beers
- 5:25Speaker 3: are there's a place in the world for clear beers.
- 5:28Speaker 3: This isn't super clear, but you're seeing through it more
- 5:31Speaker 3: than some of our recent ones. Good head retention. Uh yeah,
- 5:35Speaker 3: bright and bold, hazy, hoppy, citrusy.
- 5:39Speaker 5: I like it.
- 5:39Speaker 2: It's it's solid. This is your type of beer.
- 5:42Speaker 1: This is kind of right in your neck of the
- 5:44Speaker 1: woods when it comes to beer.
- 5:46Speaker 3: So that was what's your initial take? Yeah, that's it.
- 5:49Speaker 3: It's it's fantastic. I'm I'm definitely an IPA guy, which
- 5:53Speaker 3: I know that's not everybody's cup of tea and that's
- 5:55Speaker 3: perfectly fine. But yeah, if you are an IPA person,
- 6:00Speaker 3: you have to give this one a try. It really
- 6:02Speaker 3: reminds me of their Easy Eddy, which I think is
- 6:05Speaker 3: like the base for most of these eddies from Big Grove.
- 6:09Speaker 3: But it's definitely different than the Easy Eddy. I'd say
- 6:11Speaker 3: it's a little bit and of course I don't have
- 6:14Speaker 3: an Easy Eddy right next to me to, you know,
- 6:16Speaker 3: totally compare it to. But I feel like this is
- 6:18Speaker 3: a little bit, i don't know, tangier, little more citrusy
- 6:23Speaker 3: than the Easy Eddie. It's solid, it's a really good IPA.
- 6:27Speaker 3: What do you think I like it?
- 6:29Speaker 1: My initial thoughts were before we even tasted it. I
- 6:32Speaker 1: could just smell it. I could smell the citrus and
- 6:35Speaker 1: I could smell the hops, and then that was immediately.
- 6:38Speaker 1: My impression after taking the first sip as well, was
- 6:41Speaker 1: just it's hoppy and it's citrusy. So if you like
- 6:45Speaker 1: those things in the beer, give it a try. The
- 6:47Speaker 1: other thing I like about this too is it's not
- 6:50Speaker 1: it's not trying to do too much. And you've heard
- 6:53Speaker 1: me say that before. I don't like a beer that,
- 6:55Speaker 1: you know, tries to be obnoxious. Now we've tried some
- 6:58Speaker 1: quote unquote of knock beers, and I've never been upset
- 7:02Speaker 1: with any of those, like I think of like the
- 7:05Speaker 1: crushberry sour.
- 7:07Speaker 2: From Lying one.
- 7:08Speaker 5: Then I was tried again.
- 7:09Speaker 1: I was terrified to try that one. I'm like, oh man,
- 7:11Speaker 1: this is gonna be the beer that we hate. And
- 7:13Speaker 1: it turned out to be really good. But it's definitely
- 7:15Speaker 1: one of those like out and left field beers. This
- 7:18Speaker 1: is not that. This is just like straightforward, easy drinking.
- 7:24Speaker 1: You can knock back a few of these, probably not
- 7:26Speaker 1: more than a few because it's seven percent. Yeah, it's responsible.
- 7:29Speaker 1: You want to be careful. You know, I gotta work tomorrow,
- 7:32Speaker 1: so I'm gonna be careful.
- 7:34Speaker 3: But this is definitely it's a summer beer to me.
- 7:37Speaker 3: It's a nice light flavor even though it is seven percent.
- 7:40Speaker 3: It's not like a boozy flavor, you know, which again
- 7:43Speaker 3: there's a place for boozy flavored beers. But yeah, this
- 7:47Speaker 3: is just a solid ipa. It's gonna I'm gonna have
- 7:50Speaker 3: a handful of these over the summer. I was gonna say, like,
- 7:54Speaker 3: if you're out on the boat or something, but maybe
- 7:56Speaker 3: it's seven percent. You don't want to throw back too
- 7:58Speaker 3: many of those if you're driving the boat, but yeah,
- 8:00Speaker 3: if you're doing it responsibly. Yeah, have a good time
- 8:02Speaker 3: with these things.
- 8:02Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Well let's get into some of the more recent rule changes.
- 8:09Speaker 2: The NFL coaches.
- 8:11Speaker 1: And owners are meeting right now kind of this week,
- 8:14Speaker 1: kind of their annual meetings, and with that, they're they're
- 8:19Speaker 1: making some changes that will affect our favorite team, of course,
- 8:24Speaker 1: And so I figured we could kind of talk about
- 8:27Speaker 1: some of these rule changes just kind of as a
- 8:29Speaker 1: warm up because eventually we're going to get the privilege
- 8:32Speaker 1: of talking with Dustin Baker and Sally Spice.
- 8:35Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 8:35Speaker 3: I'm really excited for that. But yeah, so some of
- 8:39Speaker 3: the rules that were proposed were kind of crazy. Something
- 8:43Speaker 3: about the Lions proposed a rule where the offense wouldn't
- 8:48Speaker 3: get an automatic first down if the defense committed a
- 8:52Speaker 3: like a defensive pass interference or maybe just like a
- 8:54Speaker 3: defensive hold on a receiver. There's something to it, but
- 8:56Speaker 3: that didn't go through. There's another rule I think by
- 9:00Speaker 3: the packers to ban the tush push or at least
- 9:04Speaker 3: make drastic changes to it. And I think that one
- 9:06Speaker 3: didn't get totally struck down, but it got tabled until
- 9:10Speaker 3: the owners will have another meeting kind of like this,
- 9:12Speaker 3: I believe in July or August, right before the season happens.
- 9:16Speaker 3: But yeah, there were a few I think what three
- 9:18Speaker 3: rules that officially got passed for this upcoming season.
- 9:24Speaker 5: What are they of?
- 9:25Speaker 1: Yeah, So the first one has to do with overtime,
- 9:28Speaker 1: and they're essentially just aligning the overtime rules with the
- 9:33Speaker 1: playoffs to the regular season. So regular season and playoffs
- 9:37Speaker 1: have been different up until this point, and now they're aligning.
- 9:40Speaker 1: So basically what that means is both teams will get
- 9:43Speaker 1: to possess the ball in overtime now, Whereas in the
- 9:45Speaker 1: regular season in previous years, if the first team to
- 9:50Speaker 1: possess the ball scored a touchdown, the game was over.
- 9:53Speaker 2: Yeah, but if they.
- 9:54Speaker 1: Scored a field goal or didn't score, then the other
- 9:57Speaker 1: team got the opportunity to possess the ball as well.
- 10:00Speaker 1: Now both teams will possess the ball, So a touchdown
- 10:04Speaker 1: from the first team with possession means that they kick
- 10:08Speaker 1: off and the other team gets a chance to possess
- 10:10Speaker 1: the ball and we'll have to score a touchdown then
- 10:13Speaker 1: to keep it tied and continue playing, which I like.
- 10:17Speaker 1: And then they also cut overtime from fifteen minutes to
- 10:20Speaker 1: ten minutes, which I also think is okay in the
- 10:23Speaker 1: regular season. I think it sounds like they're going to
- 10:25Speaker 1: stick with calling games as a tie if they end
- 10:29Speaker 1: with the same score after the ten minute overtime period,
- 10:32Speaker 1: and I think that's okay.
- 10:33Speaker 2: It's pretty rare. I don't think it happened.
- 10:34Speaker 1: I don't think there was a tie in the twenty
- 10:37Speaker 1: four to twenty five season.
- 10:38Speaker 3: Yeah, crazy to see a tie once or twice a year,
- 10:42Speaker 3: but it's also not crazy to not see a tie.
- 10:44Speaker 3: So I can't think I mean, I might be wrong,
- 10:47Speaker 3: but I can't think of it happening in this twenty
- 10:49Speaker 3: three twenty or the twenty four to twenty five season.
- 10:52Speaker 3: But the Vikings just had a tie in recent memory.
- 10:56Speaker 3: I don't know if it's happened for KOC, but in
- 10:59Speaker 3: one of Mike zimmers last couple of years, they had
- 11:01Speaker 3: a time at least twenty nineteen something. I believe it
- 11:05Speaker 3: was with the Packers. But yeah, I think you're right.
- 11:08Speaker 3: This rule will probably lead to a couple more ties
- 11:12Speaker 3: throughout the year, a shorter overtime, and then guaranteeing, you know,
- 11:16Speaker 3: both teams get a possession. That just means there's more
- 11:19Speaker 3: opportunity for that ten minutes to end with either the
- 11:22Speaker 3: same score or well, I mean yeah, it would be
- 11:26Speaker 3: the same score. I met, either one team scoring or
- 11:29Speaker 3: no team scoring. So it was the twenty eighteen season, Okay, okay,
- 11:33Speaker 3: there was a tie. That was the last time the
- 11:35Speaker 3: Vikings had a tie? Is that famously? That might have
- 11:40Speaker 3: been the tie before that. That Donovan McNabb in the
- 11:44Speaker 3: media was like, I didn't even know teams could end.
- 11:46Speaker 1: In a tie. You played for a long time time
- 11:50Speaker 1: before that.
- 11:50Speaker 2: Was twenty thirteen. Yeah, it might have been then that McNabb.
- 11:53Speaker 5: Was like, holy, I didn't know you could finish in
- 11:55Speaker 5: a tie.
- 11:56Speaker 1: But I definitely agree with you with the shorter overtime,
- 11:59Speaker 1: you know, there could be a few more games to
- 12:01Speaker 1: end and a tie. I think of the Vikings and
- 12:03Speaker 1: Bills from two seasons no, three seasons ago?
- 12:06Speaker 2: Was it two seasons ago or three seasons ago? Like
- 12:08Speaker 2: greatest game ever?
- 12:10Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 12:10Speaker 2: Yeah, that game came down to the wire.
- 12:12Speaker 1: I mean it was it literally I think a last
- 12:15Speaker 1: second field goal. Well that one ended off of an interception,
- 12:20Speaker 1: oh Pat Pete, Yeah, at Pete interception in overtime but
- 12:23Speaker 1: it was coming down. It was like, I think less
- 12:25Speaker 1: than a minute left in overtime, and had the Bills scored,
- 12:29Speaker 1: the Vikings probably wouldn't have had a lot of time
- 12:32Speaker 1: to go down the.
- 12:32Speaker 2: Field and score again.
- 12:34Speaker 1: So all that to say, yeah, the ten minute overtime period,
- 12:38Speaker 1: well we'll probably have an effect on a lot of things.
- 12:41Speaker 2: For sure.
- 12:42Speaker 3: I'm for it. And ties are not a bad thing.
- 12:44Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's not a good feeling when your
- 12:46Speaker 3: team ties another team. Sometimes you'd almost just rather a loss.
- 12:50Speaker 3: But you know what, I'm for it. If there's a
- 12:53Speaker 3: few more ties throughout the league, let's go.
- 12:55Speaker 1: And I think it makes things interesting when you get
- 12:57Speaker 1: into the playoffs too, like there's not the clear cut
- 13:00Speaker 1: like oh, yep, they clinched. It's like, oh, it's coming
- 13:03Speaker 1: down to week seventeen, week eighteen, probably eventually a week nineteen,
- 13:08Speaker 1: because I think we're headed that way.
- 13:10Speaker 3: Yeah, and this rule specifically is one thing that kind
- 13:13Speaker 3: of screwed over well, the forty nine ers in the
- 13:16Speaker 3: Super Bowl. Yeah, not this previous one with the Chiefs
- 13:20Speaker 3: and the Eagles, but the one before, I believe with
- 13:22Speaker 3: the Chiefs and the forty nine ers. The Niners weren't
- 13:25Speaker 3: too privy on that overtime rule, and they kind of
- 13:28Speaker 3: made the wrong choice in receiving the ball in overtime,
- 13:33Speaker 3: and they kind of let the door open for the
- 13:36Speaker 3: Chiefs to score and win the game. So now there
- 13:40Speaker 3: shouldn't be any confusion. It's the same rules overtime for
- 13:46Speaker 3: postseason and regular season, and I'm okay with it.
- 13:49Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. The next one is replay assist.
- 13:52Speaker 1: So I think there are a lot of little things
- 13:55Speaker 1: involved with this under the umbrella of replay assist.
- 13:58Speaker 2: But it sounds like.
- 14:00Speaker 1: The video official can tell the officials on the field
- 14:06Speaker 1: to pick up a flag if a flag was inherently
- 14:09Speaker 1: thrown or errantly thrown.
- 14:11Speaker 2: I should say it that way.
- 14:12Speaker 5: You're the English teacher.
- 14:15Speaker 1: If the flag was thrown in the wrong way or
- 14:19Speaker 1: at the wrong time, I'm.
- 14:21Speaker 2: Not articulating that very well.
- 14:22Speaker 1: That's okay, man, Yeah, already get into it now. If
- 14:28Speaker 1: a flag was thrown that shouldn't have been thrown, the
- 14:31Speaker 1: video replay assist official can say, hey, pick that flag up.
- 14:34Speaker 1: That wasn't a flag.
- 14:35Speaker 3: But importantly they can't go the other way. Radio assists
- 14:39Speaker 3: cannot say, hey, you missed even though you were staring
- 14:43Speaker 3: right into Sam Donald's beautiful eyes. You missed that he
- 14:48Speaker 3: was ripped down to the ground by his face mask.
- 14:52Speaker 3: You need to throw a flag there. The rest can't
- 14:54Speaker 3: or the video assist can't do that. But if you've
- 14:57Speaker 3: heard me talk about officiating in recent episodes, I've kind
- 15:03Speaker 3: of said the idea that eventually the NFL is going
- 15:06Speaker 3: to be in a very good state of like a
- 15:09Speaker 3: perfect marriage between on the field refs and you know,
- 15:14Speaker 3: officiating up in the sky, and it'll be something that
- 15:17Speaker 3: we look back on, like, holy cow, do you remember
- 15:19Speaker 3: all those terrible calls? Thank goodness, they finally have a
- 15:22Speaker 3: really good system. It's not perfect, but it's really good.
- 15:25Speaker 3: And this rule, to me, is one more step towards
- 15:27Speaker 3: that idea. I think officiating what am I saying? Officiating fairly? Yeah,
- 15:34Speaker 3: I definitely think you're right. I also think this is
- 15:38Speaker 3: going to produce a lot more flags. The refs are
- 15:41Speaker 3: the refs on the field are going to throw a
- 15:43Speaker 3: lot more flags, knowing that they've got somebody that backs
- 15:46Speaker 3: them up.
- 15:47Speaker 1: Yep, that if they make the wrong call, just pick
- 15:50Speaker 1: it up. Nope, that wasn't past interference and pick it up. Nope,
- 15:52Speaker 1: that wasn't a hold.
- 15:53Speaker 2: Pick it up.
- 15:54Speaker 1: And I don't know what penalties it all applies to.
- 15:57Speaker 1: I think it applies to certain ones. Yeah, I think so,
- 15:59Speaker 1: but it's a it's the good ones. It's Yeah, from
- 16:02Speaker 1: what I could read earlier, I again, I feel like.
- 16:05Speaker 2: This is a good rule.
- 16:06Speaker 1: I could see it on the like the defensive holding
- 16:09Speaker 1: where they're like within five yards because that gets a
- 16:13Speaker 1: little right, Like, I'm that's that's a rule, right, like
- 16:16Speaker 1: within five.
- 16:17Speaker 4: Yards it's like illegal contact or something like that. Outside
- 16:20Speaker 4: of or beyond five yards for like a cornerback and
- 16:23Speaker 4: a receiver.
- 16:24Speaker 1: And I can see that being tough for an on
- 16:26Speaker 1: the field official to see, especially when they're trying to
- 16:28Speaker 1: see everything happen at once. They've got to watch this,
- 16:30Speaker 1: they've got to watch that, and they got to watch Okay,
- 16:32Speaker 1: he hit five yards. You know, I can't split my
- 16:35Speaker 1: attention across that many things when the play is happening
- 16:38Speaker 1: like boom.
- 16:39Speaker 5: Boom boom.
- 16:40Speaker 3: It only makes sense because it helps the game be
- 16:43Speaker 3: called correctly, and as long as it's not a situation
- 16:47Speaker 3: where they're stopping the game every five minutes for five minutes. Yeah,
- 16:52Speaker 3: I think technology and common sense has caught up enough
- 16:56Speaker 3: that they can make the right call in you know,
- 16:59Speaker 3: an official amount of time, and nobody should be complaining
- 17:03Speaker 3: about this.
- 17:04Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely agree. I do think it'll it'll be
- 17:07Speaker 1: an adjustment too, Like I don't think it'll be perfect
- 17:10Speaker 1: this season. And we know this about the NFL officiating
- 17:17Speaker 1: will be controversial. It always has been and it always
- 17:20Speaker 1: will be. But I think that's just the nature of
- 17:23Speaker 1: playing at the highest level in the world and playing
- 17:28Speaker 1: a game that people are absolutely passionate, like almost too
- 17:33Speaker 1: passionate about, like we're sitting here recording a podcast about
- 17:36Speaker 1: the sport. The same can't be said necessarily for other sports.
- 17:42Speaker 1: They can be a little bit, but I think football
- 17:45Speaker 1: just kind of lives in its own stratosphere that way.
- 17:48Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 17:48Speaker 6: So.
- 17:50Speaker 3: Yeah, So there's one more rule I think that was
- 17:54Speaker 3: changed officially. Other ones were either you know, totally struck
- 17:58Speaker 3: down or tabled for you know, the upcoming meeting. But
- 18:03Speaker 3: the last rule that was changed specifically, which one was
- 18:07Speaker 3: it was the oh kickoff?
- 18:08Speaker 2: Kickoff rules were just made permanent.
- 18:10Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, So in twenty twenty four they changed it
- 18:13Speaker 3: to the whole kind of new kickoff where the kicker
- 18:18Speaker 3: was kind of out on an island alone, and then
- 18:20Speaker 3: the blockers were all much closer to the returner, but
- 18:23Speaker 3: they couldn't move until the returner fielded the ball.
- 18:27Speaker 1: And then there was the like the drop zone and
- 18:30Speaker 1: touchbacks were still a thing, but there the the ball
- 18:33Speaker 1: was spotted farther up the field for a touchback than
- 18:36Speaker 1: it ever has been in the past.
- 18:38Speaker 2: So now they made that permanent.
- 18:41Speaker 3: As permanent as you know, a changeable rule can be made.
- 18:44Speaker 3: But they also made it so that a touchback goes
- 18:47Speaker 3: to the thirty five yard line.
- 18:49Speaker 1: It was the thirty this year. Yeah, right, and now
- 18:52Speaker 1: they've moved it up even further.
- 18:53Speaker 3: Which I think incentivizes kicking teams to kick a returnable
- 18:58Speaker 3: ball yep, rather than boot it through the end zone
- 19:02Speaker 3: every time. So that's just what, Yeah, what do you
- 19:05Speaker 3: think about this rule?
- 19:07Speaker 2: I like it. I liked the new kickoff rules.
- 19:09Speaker 1: I thought it would be weird at first, but once
- 19:11Speaker 1: we started watching games, I was like, no, this is
- 19:15Speaker 1: this works, this is functional. I mean two or three
- 19:19Speaker 1: weeks into the season, it was it was like, yep,
- 19:22Speaker 1: that's normal now. And it was a little weird than
- 19:25Speaker 1: you know, watching college football and having to kind of
- 19:27Speaker 1: switch back and forth, and then I went to a
- 19:29Speaker 1: few high school games too, and it's like, oh that
- 19:32Speaker 1: those actually seemed weird compared to what the NFL is
- 19:35Speaker 1: doing now. So I wonder if those changes will trickle
- 19:38Speaker 1: down into the lower levels of football eventually. That would
- 19:41Speaker 1: be interesting to see. But I think for the NFL
- 19:43Speaker 1: game specifically, I like it, and I think it protects
- 19:47Speaker 1: players a lot more than it has, which has always
- 19:50Speaker 1: been the name of the game is just player safety.
- 19:54Speaker 1: And it also just I think it adds strategy. Rather
- 19:57Speaker 1: than telling your kicker just go out and kick as
- 20:00Speaker 1: far as you can and kick this, not out of it,
- 20:02Speaker 1: try to kick it through the uprights or whatever, there's
- 20:05Speaker 1: now strategy like, no, I don't want you to do that.
- 20:08Speaker 1: I want you like your coach can scheme and yeah,
- 20:12Speaker 1: let's see if we can drop it right at the
- 20:14Speaker 1: five yard line and make them return it. Yeah, and
- 20:17Speaker 1: see what happens.
- 20:18Speaker 3: It adds a whole nother, a whole extra aspect for
- 20:22Speaker 3: a kicker to show off not just his you know,
- 20:25Speaker 3: booming leg, but his precision too. And then yeah, there
- 20:30Speaker 3: is an area for strategy. There's going to be some
- 20:33Speaker 3: team I'm sure there were last year that like figures
- 20:36Speaker 3: out like, oh, I didn't even think if you kick
- 20:37Speaker 3: it to this exact spot, then it's like statistically way
- 20:41Speaker 3: better for the kicking team. I don't know, I'm just
- 20:43Speaker 3: making something up, but I think visually you're right, it
- 20:47Speaker 3: did look really weird, and I think for that reason
- 20:51Speaker 3: the media really tried to hype it up more than
- 20:53Speaker 3: anybody else. I don't remember having strong feelings last year
- 20:56Speaker 3: about no, they can't change the kickoff rule, Like, ultimately,
- 21:00Speaker 3: the end result of the play was always pretty similar.
- 21:07Speaker 3: And if it helps, you know, keep guys more healthy,
- 21:10Speaker 3: you know, cuts down in concussions, I'm all for it.
- 21:13Speaker 5: And it doesn't really change that much. So yeah, I.
- 21:15Speaker 3: Mean, I'm always I'm all for really any the NFL
- 21:20Speaker 3: trying really anything, even down to teams trying out a
- 21:24Speaker 3: new uniform, like, yeah, let's tweak it up and if
- 21:25Speaker 3: it works, sweet, if it doesn't go back to what
- 21:28Speaker 3: it was.
- 21:28Speaker 2: Or figure out the right.
- 21:29Speaker 1: I think they did decide that teams can wear their
- 21:32Speaker 1: throwback uniforms up to four times a season now.
- 21:35Speaker 4: Well not just throwbacks but like just any alternative alternative.
- 21:38Speaker 2: Which is pretty cool.
- 21:40Speaker 1: That may have like affected the vikings decisions to where
- 21:45Speaker 1: like those Winner Wide Out at the end of the
- 21:47Speaker 1: season as opposed to something else.
- 21:49Speaker 5: What was it?
- 21:49Speaker 4: Was it like two like or it was certainly more
- 21:52Speaker 4: than one time?
- 21:53Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it was maybe two.
- 21:54Speaker 1: And the Vikings used it to where the like the
- 21:57Speaker 1: sixties throwbacks early on in the season with the Bud
- 22:02Speaker 1: Grant patch on it, and then they wore the Winter
- 22:05Speaker 1: Whiteout ones at some point at home.
- 22:07Speaker 2: In December or January or whatever.
- 22:10Speaker 3: I think our episode that the Vikings played the Bears
- 22:15Speaker 3: and wore the Winter wide Out. Did we live stream?
- 22:19Speaker 3: I know we recorded that episode with front of the
- 22:21Speaker 3: show forest, and I know we were doing it from
- 22:23Speaker 3: our own houses. I don't remember if we live streamed
- 22:26Speaker 3: either way.
- 22:26Speaker 2: I don't remember either.
- 22:27Speaker 3: I think the nature of the way that we recorded
- 22:30Speaker 3: that we didn't really talk about what we thought about
- 22:32Speaker 3: those Winter Warrior jerseys.
- 22:35Speaker 2: What do you think of those? I liked them.
- 22:37Speaker 1: I thought this year's iteration was better than last year's. Yeah,
- 22:42Speaker 1: and I'm all for the Vikings continuing to try it.
- 22:44Speaker 1: And I think now that there are more games to
- 22:47Speaker 1: mess around with that, as granted by the league, I
- 22:51Speaker 1: think we might see more of that or see more
- 22:54Speaker 1: of like those throwbacks. I would love to see the
- 22:57Speaker 1: like the nineties era. Yeah, the Chris car Harder, Randy
- 23:01Speaker 1: Moss era of Jersey comeback.
- 23:04Speaker 2: I think that would be sweet.
- 23:05Speaker 3: Those were pretty slick. But if you want to imagine
- 23:08Speaker 3: like a modern version of those, it's pretty much just
- 23:11Speaker 3: the Chiefs uniforms just purple and with a horn on
- 23:14Speaker 3: the helmet instead of it still looks but they're clean.
- 23:18Speaker 3: They would have looked really nice. Those nineties era would
- 23:21Speaker 3: have looked really nice with the Nike cut. But the
- 23:24Speaker 3: Winter Warrior ones I really like a lot. Last year,
- 23:28Speaker 3: the twenty three seasons version of those was pretty much
- 23:31Speaker 3: just they're away Jersey with their home paints and their
- 23:34Speaker 3: helmet normal.
- 23:35Speaker 2: But the way.
- 23:36Speaker 4: They iced out that whole uniform that's.
- 23:38Speaker 1: Sick this year was better for sure, and I'm looking
- 23:41Speaker 1: forward to what they do with it.
- 23:42Speaker 4: Yep.
- 23:42Speaker 2: This coming season.
- 23:43Speaker 3: And this offseason, I planned to diy like a spray
- 23:49Speaker 3: paint my own you know, helmet with the decals of
- 23:53Speaker 3: the Winter Warrior helmet logos and everything, So I stay
- 23:56Speaker 3: tuned for that will be We'll be recording some content
- 23:59Speaker 3: around mean making my own Winter Warrior helmet.
- 24:02Speaker 5: That'll be pretty fun.
- 24:03Speaker 2: So obviously the helmet thing is pretty minor.
- 24:06Speaker 1: Yeah, or the uniform thing, I guess we would say
- 24:08Speaker 1: it's pretty minor. But another thing that's interesting, and it's
- 24:12Speaker 1: not necessarily NFL related yet, but.
- 24:15Speaker 5: I think it is.
- 24:16Speaker 2: I think it will be.
- 24:17Speaker 5: I think they've made an announcement.
- 24:19Speaker 1: Oh have they?
- 24:19Speaker 5: I think so?
- 24:21Speaker 4: So, well, say what you're going to say and then
- 24:23Speaker 4: I'll look it up the UFL.
- 24:24Speaker 1: I was watching the UFL over the weekend and they
- 24:28Speaker 1: debuted some ball spotting technology. You know, I think of
- 24:33Speaker 1: the infamous Josh Allen play from this last season where
- 24:36Speaker 1: he was, you know, this close to getting the ball
- 24:39Speaker 1: across the marker for the first down and video replay
- 24:44Speaker 1: kind of seemed to indicate that he made it, but
- 24:46Speaker 1: the refs on the field said he was short and
- 24:48Speaker 1: he didn't get it, and you know whatever. And so
- 24:53Speaker 1: the UFL debuted kind of a digital ball spotting technology
- 24:58Speaker 1: with a chip in the ball and the lines on
- 25:00Speaker 1: the field. And I don't know how accurate it is yet.
- 25:04Speaker 1: I saw some tweets that are kind of making fun
- 25:07Speaker 1: of its accuracy and how bad it was. But it's
- 25:11Speaker 1: a step in the right direction if we can watch
- 25:13Speaker 1: tennis where they you know, the ball lands here and
- 25:16Speaker 1: we can see a digital replay of the ball landing
- 25:20Speaker 1: right here, and it's in or it's out, and we
- 25:22Speaker 1: can see it clearly, then we should be able to
- 25:25Speaker 1: pinpoint the location of the football it's a first down
- 25:27Speaker 1: or it's not exactly.
- 25:29Speaker 3: So I did look it up and it is April
- 25:31Speaker 3: Fool's day to day. So you got to protect yourself
- 25:34Speaker 3: with every piece of information. But according to ESPN their NFL.
- 25:40Speaker 3: On ESPN's Twitter account, they said the method for changing
- 25:43Speaker 3: first downs in the NFL will switch from chain gangs
- 25:47Speaker 3: to camera based technology in twenty twenty five. The league
- 25:50Speaker 3: announced the traditional chain gang crew will remain on the
- 25:55Speaker 3: sidelines as a secondary option. So this is a little
- 25:59Speaker 3: bit different. It'll just be like a visual is the
- 26:01Speaker 3: way this tweet is making it sound, not so much
- 26:05Speaker 3: like the UFL is like I believe they use like
- 26:07Speaker 3: tracking chips and in the field technology, I think is
- 26:12Speaker 3: what you're saying. So this is a little different, but
- 26:15Speaker 3: at least they're trying something, and at least there'll still
- 26:17Speaker 3: be the chain gang, so it won't get worse than
- 26:20Speaker 3: we're all used to it.
- 26:21Speaker 1: I think we've seen the UFL and its predecessors, like
- 26:24Speaker 1: the XFL and the USFL, like more recent iterations of
- 26:29Speaker 1: those things. They've been kind of the testing ground for
- 26:33Speaker 1: the NFL. And I don't know if there's an official
- 26:36Speaker 1: agreement there or not between the leagues, but we have
- 26:40Speaker 1: seen like the kickoff rule, for example, was kind of
- 26:43Speaker 1: piloted in the UFL, and now we see it in
- 26:47Speaker 1: the NFL. And we've seen this ball spotting technology in
- 26:52Speaker 1: the UFL. I wouldn't be surprised if we see it
- 26:55Speaker 1: in the NFL before too long.
- 26:56Speaker 3: Yeah, if it works, and if it just like the
- 26:59Speaker 3: overtime rules and the replay assist rule, if it enhances
- 27:03Speaker 3: the game and makes for a more efficiently called game,
- 27:07Speaker 3: let's go.
- 27:07Speaker 4: Let's do it.
- 27:08Speaker 3: Who cares if it's adding technology, If it makes a
- 27:10Speaker 3: game better.
- 27:11Speaker 2: Let's do it.
- 27:11Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 27:12Speaker 1: I think we've both been saying it, you more so
- 27:14Speaker 1: than me. But there eventually will hopefully be this perfect
- 27:18Speaker 1: marriage of human and artificial intelligence. Yeah, that can call
- 27:23Speaker 1: an NFL game and make it pretty good.
- 27:26Speaker 5: The RoboCop of the NFL.
- 27:28Speaker 1: We have the technology, let's do it, all right, Well,
- 27:33Speaker 1: those are the rule changes. Obviously, that's not super vikings related,
- 27:38Speaker 1: but it does affect the.
- 27:39Speaker 5: H Yeah, it definitely affects the league as a whole.
- 27:41Speaker 2: So it'll be interesting to see vikings.
- 27:43Speaker 3: We'll find a way to lose a game specifically because
- 27:46Speaker 3: of one of these rules this year, so it'll be
- 27:48Speaker 3: the most vikings thing ever, the most vikings thing ever.
- 27:50Speaker 1: Hot take All Right, Well, we're going to wrap up
- 27:53Speaker 1: this segment and when you see us again, you're gonna
- 27:57Speaker 1: see us hanging out with a friend of the show,
- 28:00Speaker 1: Dustin Baker, which it's been a few weeks since we've
- 28:04Speaker 1: had him.
- 28:04Speaker 3: It's always too long between episodes. We try to do
- 28:07Speaker 3: it monthly, but it ends up being like every five
- 28:09Speaker 3: to six weeks. So and to his credit, he's the
- 28:12Speaker 3: one that usually is like, hey, guys, you ready for
- 28:15Speaker 3: me to come back on the show. So he's a
- 28:17Speaker 3: really good front of the show. And Salspice he's bringing
- 28:20Speaker 3: her along to join the party this week, so that'll
- 28:23Speaker 3: be really exciting. The first time that we've had a
- 28:25Speaker 3: new guest in a long time. I'm trying to think
- 28:27Speaker 3: of the last time we've had a new get a
- 28:29Speaker 3: little late and.
- 28:30Speaker 1: Late Deck a couple of weeks ago, not a month ago.
- 28:33Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, but yeah, it'll be good to have a
- 28:36Speaker 1: fresh face.
- 28:37Speaker 2: And hang out with him.
- 28:39Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 28:39Speaker 2: Absolutely, next time you see us, we'll be with them.
- 28:43Speaker 4: It's just cool, all right. Welcome in, Schoolhoppers. So, as
- 28:50Speaker 4: we said, we've got front of the show Dustin on
- 28:52Speaker 4: yet again. Welcome in, Dustin. Thanks for coming on. Hell
- 28:55Speaker 4: yeah I brought Sally with me. Yeah, thanks for doing
- 28:58Speaker 4: that too, Sally, thank you for being How many guests
- 29:01Speaker 4: are we on up to you at this point, it's
- 29:03Speaker 4: not a ton, but we're starting to rack up a
- 29:06Speaker 4: good amount of guests on our show. So sal thanks
- 29:08Speaker 4: for coming on. We we always love a new face
- 29:10Speaker 4: and you're great for coming on.
- 29:12Speaker 5: So thank you.
- 29:13Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, yes, thank you so much for having me.
- 29:15Speaker 7: I'm honored.
- 29:15Speaker 8: Yeah, dust Dustin was like, hey, want to join me?
- 29:18Speaker 8: Of course, you know, me and Dustin are old pals.
- 29:20Speaker 8: But yeah, I'm happy to be here you guys and
- 29:23Speaker 8: get to get to know you and and you know school.
- 29:26Speaker 4: Yeah yeah cool. Well thanks for coming on, Dustin.
- 29:29Speaker 3: Our listeners if they don't know you yet, then that
- 29:31Speaker 3: means they haven't been listening to us for very long,
- 29:33Speaker 3: because you've been on for quite a while. You're on
- 29:36Speaker 3: Twitter or x at at dust Baker. I think we
- 29:39Speaker 3: can even like put that up on the screen, or
- 29:41Speaker 3: we'll put it at least in the show notes. People
- 29:44Speaker 3: know you from a Viking's territory and Vikes now on YouTube.
- 29:48Speaker 3: Sal you and Dustin, like you said, you go way back.
- 29:51Speaker 4: You've been. I used to follow a show that both
- 29:54Speaker 4: of you are on previously with a former Viking, and
- 29:58Speaker 4: that was really good. It suddenly took a I always dive
- 30:00Speaker 4: once you guys stop being on there. I don't know
- 30:02Speaker 4: about that, but you do Scolders and Spice and we
- 30:06Speaker 4: actually just had Dustin on your show recently last week, right.
- 30:10Speaker 7: Yes, I do a show called Scolders and Spice.
- 30:13Speaker 8: It is on the Vikings First and School Network, which
- 30:17Speaker 8: Tyler Furness also has a show there. And then my
- 30:19Speaker 8: guy Dave has a couple shows there. He's been in
- 30:22Speaker 8: the biz for so long. He's been Vikings blogging since
- 30:26Speaker 8: like the beginning of blogs. So he's awesome as well.
- 30:30Speaker 8: And yes, Dustin is actually a monthly yest on my show.
- 30:34Speaker 8: Because we go back for so long, I always got
- 30:36Speaker 8: to have him on and yeah, yeah that's the scoop.
- 30:40Speaker 4: Awesome. Well, we would love to give you as a
- 30:43Speaker 4: chance to plug whatever you want to plug towards the
- 30:45Speaker 4: end of our time here, but for now, I'd say
- 30:49Speaker 4: we just dive right into it. Yeah yeah, good to go. Yeah, Okay,
- 30:55Speaker 4: do it.
- 30:55Speaker 1: So I've got a question either one of you can
- 30:58Speaker 1: kind of chime in on this one here. Obviously, as
- 31:02Speaker 1: we've kind of hit this lull a little bit in
- 31:04Speaker 1: the free agency off season kind of timeline here, kind
- 31:10Speaker 1: of pre draft, the news has come out I think
- 31:13Speaker 1: even before free agency kind of really picked up that
- 31:16Speaker 1: the Vikings got a compick for Kirk Cousins, and then
- 31:21Speaker 1: of course with the departures of Sam Darnold and Daniel Jones,
- 31:24Speaker 1: there's the talk of you know, more compics, probably not
- 31:27Speaker 1: this year but next year. My question for you guys
- 31:31Speaker 1: is do those compics even matter? Given Quasi's draft history,
- 31:37Speaker 1: he's kind of known more for his free agency prowess
- 31:41Speaker 1: than he is for his ability to draft really high
- 31:47Speaker 1: quality players. So what do you guys make of that?
- 31:50Speaker 1: And do those compics matter a whole lot? Paula, They
- 31:54Speaker 1: they certainly matter. I think right now, Quasi Dafa Mensa
- 31:58Speaker 1: has a bad reputation based on his first maiden voyage draft,
- 32:02Speaker 1: which has not worked out whatsoever, and in fact the
- 32:05Speaker 1: butt of jokes mainly because of Lewis Scene and Andrew Booth,
- 32:07Speaker 1: and that's deserved. But in twenty twenty three, Jordan Addison
- 32:11Speaker 1: came aboard and he's played quite well in my last emission,
- 32:14Speaker 1: and then last year you have McCarthy and Dallas Turner,
- 32:17Speaker 1: one of the cornerbacks passed away in a tragic accident.
- 32:20Speaker 1: So I think most of the evil that we send
- 32:23Speaker 1: towards Crazydafamensa is derived from the twenty twenty two class,
- 32:27Speaker 1: and I don't think that that just means he's an
- 32:29Speaker 1: eternally shitty drafter of talent. So yeah, those Coppicks absolutely matter.
- 32:34Speaker 1: If you look at this year, they'd be really in
- 32:36Speaker 1: trouble without the Cousins cop pick, which is number ninety seven.
- 32:40Speaker 1: Next year they're lined up to have probably the same
- 32:42Speaker 1: pick because Darnold left at the top of the third
- 32:45Speaker 1: round compititory, so around ninety five, ninety six, ninety seven,
- 32:48Speaker 1: and then a fourth or fifth rounder depending on Daniel
- 32:50Speaker 1: Jones's snaps, and then they could also get a third
- 32:53Speaker 1: if Trent Sherfield has like thirty receptions and plays forty
- 32:56Speaker 1: percent of the time in Denver. It's kind of a
- 32:59Speaker 1: long shot because he has special teams guy, as we know.
- 33:01Speaker 1: But no, I am not in this big poo pooh
- 33:03Speaker 1: on Quasy camp because he had one bad draft. If
- 33:06Speaker 1: you go back and look at how he wrote Rosaman's
- 33:08Speaker 1: track record when he started in twenty ten twenty eleven,
- 33:11Speaker 1: he didn't have these dazzling drafts out of the gate.
- 33:13Speaker 1: We actually had pretty shitty ones to start. So yeah,
- 33:16Speaker 1: I think it's an overblown fear anxiety to say Quaycy
- 33:19Speaker 1: can't draft. Of course, you'd like for him to have
- 33:21Speaker 1: one of these classes that really nails it. But yes,
- 33:24Speaker 1: compics are ultra important, and they even talked about it
- 33:27Speaker 1: at their press conference last week.
- 33:29Speaker 8: I gotta agree with you, especially for the limited draft
- 33:33Speaker 8: capital that they're working with, obviously that they don't get
- 33:36Speaker 8: those extra draft picks that you guys mentioned until next year. However,
- 33:40Speaker 8: Quasy doesn't seem to be too worried about it. I
- 33:43Speaker 8: believe I saw a quote from him from a couple
- 33:44Speaker 8: of days ago where he said, oh, you can turn
- 33:47Speaker 8: you know, these picks into fifteen picks easily, So.
- 33:51Speaker 7: He didn't seem to be worried about it.
- 33:54Speaker 8: I personally, I remember that twenty twenty two draft. Just
- 33:59Speaker 8: my head was was freaking spinning, like what is happening here?
- 34:03Speaker 6: Like?
- 34:03Speaker 7: Who did they trade? Okay? Traded with this?
- 34:04Speaker 8: Okay, they're trading again, They're trading again. I think they'd
- 34:07Speaker 8: made like three trades in a row before they even
- 34:09Speaker 8: picked up anybody at one point in those mid mid
- 34:12Speaker 8: to later rounds, and trading within the Vision, trading with Detroit,
- 34:17Speaker 8: trading with the Green Bay. I'm like, what the heck
- 34:20Speaker 8: is happened? In my head was spinning. So I just
- 34:22Speaker 8: for from a sanity standpoint, I would hope that something
- 34:25Speaker 8: like that doesn't happen. But yes, of course they matter
- 34:28Speaker 8: agreed that. You know, the twenty twenty two draft was
- 34:31Speaker 8: super bad. I actually did a TikTok series on it
- 34:34Speaker 8: a couple of months ago, where not only did I
- 34:36Speaker 8: do all of the trades, but I did what all
- 34:38Speaker 8: of the trades turned into for those other teams. And
- 34:42Speaker 8: it wasn't great, you know, for from a Viking standpoint.
- 34:45Speaker 8: But yeah, I don't think we can hold that against
- 34:47Speaker 8: him and the compensed story picks, especially for the guys
- 34:52Speaker 8: that we're talking about here. I mean, Sam Donald, that
- 34:55Speaker 8: obviously makes sense. Well, I don't know, on a one
- 34:57Speaker 8: year deal, maybe not, but the to be getting picks
- 35:01Speaker 8: for that is pretty impressive.
- 35:04Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 35:04Speaker 3: I think we shouldn't discount that twenty twenty two draft though,
- 35:07Speaker 3: because that first round pick is a current Super Bowl champion.
- 35:14Speaker 3: You're right, You're right, no, But I am in the
- 35:18Speaker 3: camp that I think maybe these compicks are a little overblown.
- 35:21Speaker 4: Dustin.
- 35:22Speaker 3: I think recently you've kind of come out and said
- 35:25Speaker 3: something about the QB two spot and how it's like, guys,
- 35:28Speaker 3: we're putting much in too much into this QB two spot.
- 35:31Speaker 3: I think kind of a similar way, like, oh, we're
- 35:33Speaker 3: putting too much into these compics. Like, yeah, you're right,
- 35:36Speaker 3: that extra third round pick is nice, and I think
- 35:38Speaker 3: it's the highest of the comp pics this year that
- 35:42Speaker 3: we're given out at the end of the third round,
- 35:44Speaker 3: So that'll be really nice. But at this point my
- 35:48Speaker 3: thoughts on Cray, I'm a Racy fan. I think he's
- 35:52Speaker 3: the right GM for the Vikings. But if you told
- 35:55Speaker 3: me he traded away all of the draft picks, I
- 35:58Speaker 3: trust his moves and who he got more than who
- 36:00Speaker 3: he would who he would draft, Because you say, I
- 36:04Speaker 3: think at this point, Jordan Addison is about the best
- 36:07Speaker 3: draft pick, which, oh no, a borderline pro Bowl wide
- 36:10Speaker 3: receiver is only the best draft pick that he's got
- 36:12Speaker 3: so far.
- 36:13Speaker 4: But that's about it.
- 36:14Speaker 3: And if you read Vikings Territory dot com, there's a
- 36:17Speaker 3: recent article talking about how the Vikings just need to
- 36:19Speaker 3: trade away Jordan Addison. Anyways, not what it said, my friend. Well,
- 36:25Speaker 3: maybe maybe.
- 36:25Speaker 4: Our listeners should go check that article out and get
- 36:28Speaker 4: their own opinions. But yeah, I think at this point
- 36:32Speaker 4: i'd be I'd trust more the free agency moves from
- 36:35Speaker 4: Quaycy than his draft moves. It's not really something we
- 36:39Speaker 4: can have to dive into right now, but I think
- 36:42Speaker 4: the Bikings won't even have a first round pick this year.
- 36:44Speaker 4: They'll probably trade down and get more picks. Sally, you
- 36:47Speaker 4: mentioned how Clacy said something like, oh, we can always
- 36:50Speaker 4: turn you know, one pick into five picks. Cracy said
- 36:53Speaker 4: that in one of the videos fifteen Sorry, but last year,
- 36:59Speaker 4: in one of the videos the Vikings put out in
- 37:01Speaker 4: the draft was it was after they traded up and
- 37:04Speaker 4: made all those uh traded all those picks for Dallas Turner.
- 37:08Speaker 4: Clacy kind of told the war room like, don't worry, guys,
- 37:10Speaker 4: we'll get back into Day two. And then they never
- 37:13Speaker 4: got back into day two, so well, we'll see. I
- 37:17Speaker 4: think Cracy's the guy, But the draft for me is
- 37:19Speaker 4: not not anything I'm hinging on right now. I would,
- 37:23Speaker 4: I would. I would be right there with you on
- 37:26Speaker 4: the compensatory like some for some Twitter accounts, that's like
- 37:30Speaker 4: personality defining, like oh my god, what about the compic
- 37:32Speaker 4: But right right, right right now, if they just signed
- 37:35Speaker 4: some moron, that would that would screw up a potential
- 37:39Speaker 4: fourth rounder. So the way that they've orchestrated so that
- 37:42Speaker 4: they've got this blissful free agent class and then as
- 37:45Speaker 4: gravy a third rounder for sure, and then a fourth
- 37:48Speaker 4: or fifth rounder. I think the reason you kind of
- 37:50Speaker 4: want to safeguard right now and not go sign Drew
- 37:53Speaker 4: Locke at this very moment is because that would cost you.
- 37:56Speaker 4: It'd be Drew Locke for a fourth rounder, That's basically
- 37:58Speaker 4: what it would be. Therefore, you still have this I
- 38:01Speaker 4: guess fourth wave of free agency coming up after the draft,
- 38:04Speaker 4: when you can sign guys pain free. You don't have
- 38:06Speaker 4: to worry about the PENSATORI pick formula. So if you
- 38:08Speaker 4: believe the assante Samuel Rumers from Scoring North if you
- 38:11Speaker 4: want him to sign Drew Locke or any quarterback that's
- 38:15Speaker 4: out there. Will Hernandez is a guard, Brandon Shurf, those
- 38:18Speaker 4: guys can get got after the draft, and so right now,
- 38:22Speaker 4: it's just a matter of timing. It's not like it's
- 38:25Speaker 4: Remember last year when they signed Shaq Griffin. Yeah, there
- 38:28Speaker 4: was a tangible fear that that wiped out a third
- 38:31Speaker 4: or a fourth round pick. Now I don't know if
- 38:33Speaker 4: that was ever proven, but that's an example of where
- 38:35Speaker 4: we're at right now. You don't want to go sign
- 38:37Speaker 4: some third string offensive guard and have that cost you
- 38:40Speaker 4: next year's fourth rounder. So I think that is where
- 38:43Speaker 4: we get a little gatekeepy about the compis.
- 38:48Speaker 3: Well, and we kind of saw that play out last
- 38:50Speaker 3: year as well, not just with Shaq Griffin but also
- 38:54Speaker 3: Stefan Gilmore. I think ultimately his contract, if he would
- 38:58Speaker 3: have signed the same contract with the Vikings, you know,
- 39:01Speaker 3: of day one of free agency, that probably would have
- 39:03Speaker 3: factored into the compic. Yes, absolutely equation for this year.
- 39:07Speaker 3: And that was a little bit different because that was
- 39:09Speaker 3: after the tragic h you know, death of the rookie
- 39:14Speaker 3: and so they had an immediate need that they didn't
- 39:17Speaker 3: really know that they were.
- 39:18Speaker 4: Going to have. And Makai Blackman's ACL. Oh yeah, that's true.
- 39:21Speaker 4: I kind of forgot about that. We kind of like
- 39:23Speaker 4: sprinkle on top of the cornerback room this year, like, yeah,
- 39:26Speaker 4: everything about everything about Quasy's draft. Acuben is going to
- 39:30Speaker 4: first of all, just boil it out to JJ McCarthy
- 39:31Speaker 4: if he hits and he is this top eight guy,
- 39:34Speaker 4: like we we think he can be. Nobody's really going
- 39:36Speaker 4: to give a shit too much about Quaysey's draft class
- 39:39Speaker 4: from twenty twenty two, and then Dallas Turner and then
- 39:41Speaker 4: Makai Blackman's coming back from the twenty ACL and if
- 39:44Speaker 4: he's good, that'll that'll be another feather in Quaysy's cap.
- 39:47Speaker 4: That is true. His our opinions of Quaysey's drafting ability
- 39:50Speaker 4: could turn one hundred and eighty degrees real quick after
- 39:53Speaker 4: this year. Speaking of the draft, do you guys think
- 39:57Speaker 4: there's a potential for the Vikings to get a starter
- 40:00Speaker 4: out of this draft one of the four picks or
- 40:02Speaker 4: however many they end up with in the end, And
- 40:05Speaker 4: if they do, what position is it the first round
- 40:08Speaker 4: pick that they're gonna get or is it going to
- 40:09Speaker 4: be something like an Ivan Pace junior. I mean he
- 40:12Speaker 4: was undrafted, but something like a later round guy that
- 40:14Speaker 4: turns into a starter somewhere. What do you guys think?
- 40:18Speaker 8: I would certainly like to think so, I think if
- 40:21Speaker 8: if they do, I'm in the camp where I also
- 40:23Speaker 8: don't think they will end up having a first round pick.
- 40:25Speaker 8: I think it's much more much more likely that they
- 40:27Speaker 8: will end up trading back. I think probably I would
- 40:31Speaker 8: like to see them draft a corner. I think we
- 40:33Speaker 8: pretty much all would we instead of doing this plug
- 40:36Speaker 8: and plug and play where you get somebody for a
- 40:38Speaker 8: year or you know, two years it's past their prime,
- 40:42Speaker 8: and get some consistency there and hopefully hopefully they could
- 40:47Speaker 8: maybe maybe step in and play. I think that that
- 40:49Speaker 8: would be maybe the most likely. That's obviously the most
- 40:53Speaker 8: dire position of need in my opinion.
- 40:55Speaker 4: Anyway, the question you're talking about like a day one starter,
- 41:00Speaker 4: because we all hope that well, we all hope that job. Yeah,
- 41:05Speaker 4: so if we're talking about somebody who can start like
- 41:08Speaker 4: this September, I think there's only a couple options because
- 41:13Speaker 4: all the holes have been filled in free agency. So
- 41:17Speaker 4: I wrote about on King's territory last week that John
- 41:20Speaker 4: da Barron kind of to me feels like a hinge
- 41:22Speaker 4: at pick number twenty four if he falls there. He
- 41:26Speaker 4: is a guy that I think you cancel your trade
- 41:28Speaker 4: back plans, you stick and pick at twenty four, and
- 41:30Speaker 4: I think that guy would have the juice to oust
- 41:33Speaker 4: Isaiah Rodgers for example, as the CV two and then
- 41:38Speaker 4: an offensive guard. Today, Kevin O'Connell talked about how if
- 41:42Speaker 4: the season started tomorrow, Blake Brandle and Michael Jurgens would
- 41:45Speaker 4: be in the mix to start at left guard. So
- 41:47Speaker 4: if we're having that type of conversation in early April,
- 41:51Speaker 4: then left guard might be a draft need. So I
- 41:54Speaker 4: think Gray Zabel if he was drafted at pick number
- 41:56Speaker 4: twenty four, or even if you traded down a few
- 41:58Speaker 4: picks and still got him, he could start Day one
- 42:01Speaker 4: in Blake Brandle's spot, otherwise trading back into round two,
- 42:05Speaker 4: possibly eating Shavon Revel a cornerback if his ACL is
- 42:08Speaker 4: good to go. He's a dude that could start Day one.
- 42:11Speaker 4: But overall, because Javon hargraves on, this team will fried
- 42:16Speaker 4: all these sweet free agents that they signed the starting
- 42:20Speaker 4: trajectory for a lot of the draft class would be
- 42:22Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six because you know, if you if
- 42:24Speaker 4: you draft Walter Nolan, he's probably not gonna take Javon
- 42:28Speaker 4: Hargraves job, you know, in August, and we don't want
- 42:31Speaker 4: him to. We want the depth like the Eagles had.
- 42:33Speaker 4: So I'd say John D. Barron, Gray's Abel and possibly
- 42:37Speaker 4: Schevon Revel if you want a week one starter.
- 42:40Speaker 3: Interesting, haven't you got any thoughts, like any even a
- 42:42Speaker 3: position that maybe it's weak and they could get a
- 42:45Speaker 3: starter at that position.
- 42:47Speaker 1: I think, Sally, you're onto something there with the cornerback position.
- 42:50Speaker 1: That's obviously the spot where I think there needs to
- 42:53Speaker 1: be something. I think it's a later round pick. I
- 42:58Speaker 1: don't know that it's that first rounder. I don't know
- 43:00Speaker 1: that we're sitting here talking about this blockbuster, you know,
- 43:03Speaker 1: first round pickup that's gonna start for the Vikings. And
- 43:07Speaker 1: obviously things are are kind of murky in that quarter
- 43:11Speaker 1: cornerback room as well, like we just don't know yet
- 43:15Speaker 1: what that's gonna turn out to be. And you're waiting
- 43:19Speaker 1: to see, you know, how healthy is Makai Blackman? Is
- 43:22Speaker 1: he gonna come back fully healthy? Stuff like that. So no,
- 43:27Speaker 1: I would expect if there's a starter to come out
- 43:30Speaker 1: of the draft, it would it would be at that
- 43:31Speaker 1: cornerback position. That's where I'm at right now.
- 43:34Speaker 4: I got to name drop the two safeties really quick.
- 43:36Speaker 4: I forgot them. Malachi starts from Georgia and Nick even
- 43:39Speaker 4: Wari from South Carolina. There's a there's a world where
- 43:42Speaker 4: one of those guys, even though we're like, yeah, no,
- 43:44Speaker 4: a lot quezy draft in a safety, there's a world
- 43:47Speaker 4: where one of those guys could instantly start over too.
- 43:50Speaker 7: Jackson, Yeah, can we get a break?
- 43:55Speaker 4: Dustin? I think I agree with you. I think that
- 43:57Speaker 4: left guard spot might be the easiest route for a
- 44:02Speaker 4: rookie to come in, especially if it's a first rounder,
- 44:05Speaker 4: to come in and take a starting job. I think
- 44:08Speaker 4: Blake Brandell, he's a big dude. He's good, but he's
- 44:12Speaker 4: not like crazy awesome. He's not a Will Fryes, but
- 44:16Speaker 4: I think he's better than He would be a better
- 44:19Speaker 4: fifth or sixth offensive lineman than even Dalton Reisner has
- 44:22Speaker 4: been the last couple of years, which to me is
- 44:24Speaker 4: kind of saying something. I mean that has a compliment
- 44:26Speaker 4: to Brandell. So yeah, I don't know, it would be
- 44:29Speaker 4: awesome to get a starter out of this draft. But
- 44:31Speaker 4: again I just said, I don't really care too much
- 44:34Speaker 4: about the draft. Casey's done everything he needs for me
- 44:37Speaker 4: to be happy in free agency.
- 44:40Speaker 1: So next question here for you guys, we'll kind of
- 44:44Speaker 1: step away from looking towards the future and take a
- 44:48Speaker 1: moment to look back. The Vikings won fourteen games this
- 44:52Speaker 1: last season. And admittedly I'm more of the ESPN guy
- 44:57Speaker 1: than you are. I'll come home and watch Sports Center
- 45:01Speaker 1: around the Horn, PTI whatever.
- 45:05Speaker 4: No free advertisement, man, they.
- 45:10Speaker 1: Other other than other than like the the Aaron Rodgers
- 45:14Speaker 1: rumors of you know possible, you know, fulfilling the prophecy
- 45:21Speaker 1: Brett Farv, you know that whole thing. The Vikings really
- 45:25Speaker 1: haven't gotten a lot of attention from the national media.
- 45:31Speaker 1: Why is that? Why haven't the twenty twenty four Vikings
- 45:35Speaker 1: really struck a chord with these these big talking heads
- 45:39Speaker 1: that are on TV every day talking about all the
- 45:42Speaker 1: other teams, you know, the Lions and the Chiefs and
- 45:46Speaker 1: all these other really good teams. And yet the Vikings
- 45:48Speaker 1: won fourteen games and don't get talked about a whole lot.
- 45:53Speaker 1: And and and I maybe I would add too, like
- 45:56Speaker 1: are generally picked pretty low, oh in their own division,
- 46:02Speaker 1: and you know, don't don't seem to have the favor
- 46:06Speaker 1: of these these uh talking heads to do super well
- 46:10Speaker 1: this coming season. What's up with that? What do you
- 46:13Speaker 1: guys make of that?
- 46:16Speaker 8: I would say, Uh, certainly, I don't know. Can we
- 46:19Speaker 8: cuss on here? I would They certainly shot in the
- 46:23Speaker 8: bed in the playoffs in the week before that certainly
- 46:26Speaker 8: don't help that narrative at all. I think that probably
- 46:30Speaker 8: plays into a national media who isn't watching every minute
- 46:33Speaker 8: of every game that hey, they really did overperform there.
- 46:37Speaker 8: They they defied expectations, but maybe they really weren't supposed
- 46:42Speaker 8: to because when the bit, when the bright lights came on,
- 46:45Speaker 8: look what happened. I think also with all of the
- 46:48Speaker 8: free agent acquisitions, while they are great, there's no evidence
- 46:53Speaker 8: or footage of how they're going to actually mold together
- 46:56Speaker 8: and perform together.
- 46:57Speaker 7: So there's a lot of unknown there, a lot of.
- 47:00Speaker 8: Unknown at the quarterback position with JJ McCarthy, how is
- 47:04Speaker 8: he going to perform in the NFL?
- 47:07Speaker 7: And then of course all the rumors and all of
- 47:10Speaker 7: that as well.
- 47:12Speaker 8: And I think, yeah, I think, of course it does
- 47:14Speaker 8: seem like the media does favor the Lions, especially the
- 47:18Speaker 8: last few years. I don't think that that's necessarily wrong
- 47:23Speaker 8: for them to do, So yeah, I think I think
- 47:26Speaker 8: that there's a lot of factors there. Maybe also they're
- 47:28Speaker 8: just saving it because they know if Aaron Rodgers does
- 47:31Speaker 8: go fair, that's all they're going to be talking about
- 47:32Speaker 8: until the end of time.
- 47:33Speaker 7: So yeah, there could be a lot.
- 47:38Speaker 8: Of things going on, but I think probably it mostly
- 47:41Speaker 8: has to do with a lot of they there's not
- 47:44Speaker 8: any evidence yet of what all of these new acquisitions
- 47:47Speaker 8: are going to look like together. While on paper it
- 47:49Speaker 8: looks like it's going to be great, you don't actually
- 47:52Speaker 8: know yet.
- 47:55Speaker 4: For me and you know, we all live through the
- 47:58Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins era. I think how most experts or even Vegas,
- 48:03Speaker 4: when they assign a over under for wins right now,
- 48:05Speaker 4: it's eight and a half for the Vikings, they look
- 48:08Speaker 4: at QB one and they make the determination from there
- 48:11Speaker 4: while acknowledging a little bit of the death chart. So
- 48:13Speaker 4: with Cousins, habitually it was seven and a half games,
- 48:16Speaker 4: like you know, with no wiggle room, and now with
- 48:18Speaker 4: McCarthy it's you know, boosted to eight and a half.
- 48:20Speaker 4: So I think what the world sees is, Oh god,
- 48:24Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy, that's the guy that won a championship Michigan, Right, yeah,
- 48:26Speaker 4: that's him. I bet you he'll be okay. And we are.
- 48:29Speaker 4: So everybody on the show is in the echo chamber
- 48:32Speaker 4: of Vikings Football, you know, like in this thoor Nystrom
- 48:35Speaker 4: fuel JJ McCarthy echo chamber, like with the highlights from
- 48:39Speaker 4: the one game. So we're we're banking on this hope
- 48:43Speaker 4: that JJ McCarthy will turn into the dude we saw
- 48:45Speaker 4: for a half hour last August. And we have that
- 48:49Speaker 4: great hope. The rest of the national media doesn't give
- 48:50Speaker 4: a shit. They're like, well, he's got to prove it first,
- 48:53Speaker 4: and so that brings us to about an eight and
- 48:55Speaker 4: a half you know, win tot. I trust the roster construction.
- 48:59Speaker 4: I think the beat the eight and a half win total.
- 49:01Speaker 4: I don't think that McCarthy will have thirty six touchdowns
- 49:05Speaker 4: and four twenty passing yards. They're four thousand and two
- 49:09Speaker 4: are passing like darn Old. That would be magnificent. But
- 49:12Speaker 4: generally speaking, it's at the quarterback one position. The national
- 49:18Speaker 4: viewpoint just season unknown who's twenty two years old and
- 49:21Speaker 4: he's not gonna get a nine and a half win
- 49:24Speaker 4: total just because he's cool his cool hair. You know.
- 49:29Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes I think I'm too close to it because
- 49:32Speaker 3: people will knock up to me and be like, so,
- 49:34Speaker 3: what are the Viking's gonna do at quarterback? And I'm like,
- 49:37Speaker 3: obviously they're gonna go with you know, the first round
- 49:39Speaker 3: pick from last year that only won a championship in
- 49:42Speaker 3: college football, Like that's duh, Like that's what's gonna happen.
- 49:45Speaker 3: You wouldn't ask Bears fans what they're gonna do at quarterback.
- 49:48Speaker 3: So I think I'm too close to it and I'm
- 49:51Speaker 3: too Like you said, we're in the echo chamber. So
- 49:55Speaker 3: maybe we do have to take a step back and
- 49:56Speaker 3: be like, okay, it should we should be lower ring
- 50:00Speaker 3: our expectations for this a little bit.
- 50:02Speaker 7: I'm personally fine with no national media attention. I think
- 50:06Speaker 7: a lot of us are.
- 50:07Speaker 8: The less primetime games, the less people talking about them,
- 50:10Speaker 8: I think that that modes well for us.
- 50:14Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, the Vikings give us as much excitement on
- 50:17Speaker 4: game day as we need with you our heart, heart
- 50:20Speaker 4: health every fourth quarter, which has been the case for
- 50:24Speaker 4: I don't know. It feels like since I've been a fan,
- 50:27Speaker 4: not even just koc or Mike Zimmer, So yeah, we
- 50:30Speaker 4: don't need the ESPN talking heads making our heart ache
- 50:33Speaker 4: even more so.
- 50:34Speaker 8: Well, I also feel like it's honestly just annoying when
- 50:37Speaker 8: they do, because they say so many things that are
- 50:39Speaker 8: inaccurate as well, like not intentionally, it's just because they
- 50:43Speaker 8: only have pay attention. I remember there were so many
- 50:45Speaker 8: things that they said last year when I would actually
- 50:47Speaker 8: want to watch it because I would want to see
- 50:49Speaker 8: the highlights, and I would just be like infuriating, wanting
- 50:52Speaker 8: to pull my hair out. I remember one thing specifically
- 50:55Speaker 8: was they said, oh, well, you know, this is all
- 50:57Speaker 8: going to come down to how.
- 50:58Speaker 7: Sam Donald is going to perform in cold weather.
- 51:01Speaker 8: Didn't have cold weather game on the schedule, like not
- 51:04Speaker 8: a single one, Like did you even look at the
- 51:06Speaker 8: damn schedule this place?
- 51:08Speaker 7: He's playing a Seattle and that's going to be like
- 51:10Speaker 7: fifty degrees. I think, dumb stuff.
- 51:15Speaker 4: I think another one was it Stephen A. Smith at
- 51:17Speaker 4: one point said, oh, Sam Donald hasn't had a three
- 51:19Speaker 4: hundred yard game in like five months, and like literally
- 51:23Speaker 4: four days before that he'd had his like third straight
- 51:26Speaker 4: three hundred yard games. I think absolutely, I think what
- 51:30Speaker 4: happens happens for some of those pundits is you know,
- 51:33Speaker 4: we whether it's podcasts or writing, we cover a very
- 51:38Speaker 4: specific team with a fifty three man depth chart, whereas
- 51:40Speaker 4: pundits have thirty two teams and multiple sports. So right now,
- 51:43Speaker 4: if somebody was on somebody asked me, what do you
- 51:45Speaker 4: think about the Pittsburgh Steelers defensive tackles, I'd be like, oh, well,
- 51:49Speaker 4: Hayward's awesome. They have a rich history. I would bullshit
- 51:52Speaker 4: a little bit, but it would be generally true. And
- 51:55Speaker 4: I think that is how some of the national pundits
- 51:57Speaker 4: get their foot in their mouth, is because they'll make
- 51:59Speaker 4: sweeping realizations about well, Minnesota that's cold, right, Well, they're
- 52:02Speaker 4: gonna have to play some cold games at some point, right,
- 52:05Speaker 4: Donald's gonna have to live up to those, right, And
- 52:06Speaker 4: it's just not true. Yeah, yeah, factly all right, Well,
- 52:11Speaker 4: hopefully they they live up to what they did in
- 52:14Speaker 4: twenty four. In twenty five, that'd be a and better.
- 52:18Speaker 4: I hope we don't have a one and done playoff
- 52:20Speaker 4: game again. You know, you make a deep run, that'd
- 52:22Speaker 4: be great.
- 52:24Speaker 3: That Evan you kind of you said his name, the
- 52:26Speaker 3: name that shall not be said, Sally, I think you
- 52:29Speaker 3: said it a minute ago. And Sally and Dustin, you
- 52:32Speaker 3: guys last week on your show talked about the QB
- 52:36Speaker 3: two position for the Vikings and I think Sally you
- 52:40Speaker 3: even said like, well, I don't want to talk about
- 52:41Speaker 3: Rogers too much, but you tossed his name around once
- 52:45Speaker 3: or twice. But what I want to know, not even
- 52:48Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, but who is the QB two eye roll
- 52:52Speaker 3: QB two signing that would break Vikings twitter the most well, you.
- 52:57Speaker 8: Know, I person what would break me personally would be
- 53:03Speaker 8: Kirk Cousins, which I'm very annoyed.
- 53:05Speaker 7: That's IM very annoyed that that's back in the news. Dustin,
- 53:08Speaker 7: I saw it.
- 53:09Speaker 8: I saw it on Viken's territory today as like number
- 53:12Speaker 8: two trade trade possibility. And then you know, obviously I
- 53:16Speaker 8: saw Schefter's comments on it and stuff.
- 53:17Speaker 7: That's what would break me personally.
- 53:19Speaker 8: However, and I thought it was off the table because
- 53:22Speaker 8: of the roster bonus that he got what two weeks
- 53:26Speaker 8: ago or whatever the case was.
- 53:29Speaker 7: However, that week, earlier that week, I actually did a
- 53:33Speaker 7: poll that was, hey, which of these would you rather have?
- 53:37Speaker 7: You know, a real Sophie's choice.
- 53:39Speaker 8: Would you rather have Aaron Rodgers or would you rather
- 53:41Speaker 8: have Kirk Cousins and Kirk Cousin. I thought it was
- 53:47Speaker 8: really tough, Like when I got asked in the chat
- 53:49Speaker 8: of my show, I was like, oh, and then I
- 53:52Speaker 8: really thought about it for like ten seconds, and I
- 53:55Speaker 8: came up with Aaron Rodgers. However, I want to say
- 53:58Speaker 8: the results were about maybe sixty percent would want Kirk Cousins.
- 54:03Speaker 7: Or it might have even been higher.
- 54:05Speaker 8: It was definitely overwhelming that the fan base on Twitter
- 54:09Speaker 8: and Instagram would rather have Kirk Cousins.
- 54:11Speaker 7: So I think it would be Aaron Rodgers.
- 54:13Speaker 8: That, based on my limited scientific research, that would break them.
- 54:18Speaker 8: But I think ultimately either one would, and yeah, either
- 54:22Speaker 8: one would. I mean, how broken was Viking's Twitter like
- 54:25Speaker 8: at least the last two years of Kirk Cousins on
- 54:27Speaker 8: the team, So I would argue it's.
- 54:29Speaker 4: Still currently broken. But yes, I agree, Yeah, let's see
- 54:34Speaker 4: so in addition to Kirk, oh, that would break Viking's Twitter.
- 54:38Speaker 4: Even like a guy that respected Kirk for his six seasons,
- 54:41Speaker 4: I don't want him back because I want to look
- 54:43Speaker 4: towards the future. It's the whole reason I want I
- 54:44Speaker 4: don't want Rogers. I don't want to look back at
- 54:47Speaker 4: dudes in their forties and late thirties. I want to
- 54:49Speaker 4: put all of our energy into the twenty two year old.
- 54:51Speaker 4: Additional dudes that could break it would be case Keenum
- 54:55Speaker 4: because he is actually a reasonable option and would be
- 54:58Speaker 4: a good cue. It would be a good cue two
- 55:01Speaker 4: you know fan but like the old time fans would
- 55:04Speaker 4: be like, oh yeah, I remember that Curry's crew. So
- 55:07Speaker 4: Sally and I talked about that a couple of days ago.
- 55:10Speaker 4: Teddy Bridgewater, if he didn't go back and coach the
- 55:12Speaker 4: high school, uh if he'd be QB two. So we're
- 55:15Speaker 4: looking at reunion angles there and then other than those,
- 55:18Speaker 4: I mean, Drew lock wouldn't break Twitter'd be cool. Ryan
- 55:21Speaker 4: Tannehill won't break Twitter. We've already talked about it enough.
- 55:24Speaker 4: I think the only other one would be a uh
- 55:25Speaker 4: snazzy trade for somebody like in August, if the Colts
- 55:29Speaker 4: decide Anthony Richardson's not their guy and they're going with
- 55:31Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, getting a dude that has a supreme upside
- 55:35Speaker 4: that you know would cook with Kevin O'Connell, it'd be
- 55:38Speaker 4: a trade for somebody like that, or Will Levis that
- 55:40Speaker 4: would probably break. But again, these are all secondary conversations
- 55:44Speaker 4: to JJ McCarthy, we think ascending to his QB one throne. Yeah,
- 55:49Speaker 4: that's why I said QB two because at least I
- 55:51Speaker 4: think in both of our minds, I think it should
- 55:54Speaker 4: be the initial thought on everybody's mind is it may
- 55:57Speaker 4: not be tattooed in, but JJ McCarthy is at least
- 56:00Speaker 4: penciled in at Q one. When you said break Twitter,
- 56:04Speaker 4: I didn't necessarily think that meant a bad thing. I
- 56:06Speaker 4: just meant like, oh yeah, like rim rattling things. So
- 56:09Speaker 4: that's why a case Keenum is oh okay.
- 56:11Speaker 8: Because I was gonna say yeah, I mean first, I
- 56:13Speaker 8: mean Aaron Rodgers, I guess would be then taken out
- 56:16Speaker 8: of that convo because he ain't coming. He ain't sign
- 56:18Speaker 8: enough to play QB two, so that that would be
- 56:21Speaker 8: a non factor obviously. And as far as breaking Twitter,
- 56:24Speaker 8: I mean that makes sense now Dustin that you clarify that,
- 56:26Speaker 8: because I think that case Keenum would be just those
- 56:30Speaker 8: you know, we see them all when we go to
- 56:32Speaker 8: USBA Stadium and we look around. It's it's the ones
- 56:34Speaker 8: that don't necessarily know what's going on. And remember case
- 56:38Speaker 8: Keenum in the Miracle and they remember that season, and
- 56:41Speaker 8: so I could see if JJ were potentially struggling because
- 56:45Speaker 8: they're familiar with the name then wanting him to come in.
- 56:48Speaker 7: I can't. I don't think they'd feel that way about
- 56:50Speaker 7: Teddy to be honest, but.
- 56:51Speaker 8: I would like Teddy as a backup quarterback because of
- 56:54Speaker 8: his success in coaching. I think that that obviously proves
- 56:59Speaker 8: that he's a good community cater, that he's a good motivator.
- 57:02Speaker 8: Not that a backup quarterback's role is a motivate is
- 57:05Speaker 8: being a motivator, but he definitely he obviously has shown
- 57:10Speaker 8: from taking that team.
- 57:11Speaker 7: I mean, how were they winless the year before he
- 57:13Speaker 7: took over to go into a state championship.
- 57:16Speaker 8: He knows how to communicate and he could that could
- 57:20Speaker 8: definitely be an asset to working with JJ, whether that's
- 57:23Speaker 8: in the film room, whether that's on the field, And
- 57:25Speaker 8: I think that would be a great asset.
- 57:28Speaker 4: Yeah. I feel like as far as breaking Twitter, you
- 57:30Speaker 4: guys hit the nail on the head. I think if
- 57:33Speaker 4: it wasn't Rogers, if it wasn't Cousins, I think case Keenum,
- 57:36Speaker 4: like you said, Sala, there are still people that get
- 57:40Speaker 4: on there and are still saying, like I think they
- 57:42Speaker 4: need to go get Keenum. They've been saying it for years,
- 57:45Speaker 4: like why do we trade for Josh Doabbs? Keenum's right there, like,
- 57:49Speaker 4: let it go, guys, this is it was years ago.
- 57:52Speaker 4: It's like the people that can't get over their high
- 57:54Speaker 4: school sweetheart, Like it's it's okay, that was a fun year.
- 57:57Speaker 4: It was awesome, but it's not what it would what
- 57:59Speaker 4: you think it would be. I don't know who would
- 58:02Speaker 4: break it. I think, yeah, it would be Rogers or Man.
- 58:05Speaker 4: I hope it's not Cousins. If they traded for Cousins,
- 58:08Speaker 4: that would be crazy, but it would definitely break Vikings
- 58:10Speaker 4: Twitter for sure.
- 58:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think Cousins would fill the similar
- 58:16Speaker 1: role to what Sally was saying with Teddy of like
- 58:19Speaker 1: the coach role. He might not be the right fit,
- 58:24Speaker 1: but he might be that guy that could. You know,
- 58:29Speaker 1: he wants to start. We know that Kirk wants to
- 58:31Speaker 1: Kirk wants to be the guy on the field. He
- 58:33Speaker 1: doesn't want to be the guy with the headset on
- 58:35Speaker 1: the sideline. But I mean, I don't know. I was
- 58:38Speaker 1: saying that when he got injured, when he tore his
- 58:39Speaker 1: achilles last year, thought well, sure enough, we'll see him
- 58:43Speaker 1: on the sideline with the headset. And then we didn't
- 58:45Speaker 1: see him on the sideline with the headset. We saw
- 58:47Speaker 1: him on the beach in Florida, crawling into the ocean.
- 58:50Speaker 8: So I personally haven't seen any evidence of the same
- 58:54Speaker 8: communication skills or style that I was just describing.
- 58:58Speaker 7: For he's kind of a stick in the mud.
- 59:01Speaker 8: I can't really see him putting himself out there frequently
- 59:05Speaker 8: and being like, hey man, let me show you this
- 59:08Speaker 8: skill or let me teach you this. In a different way,
- 59:11Speaker 8: I think he's also a little bit more uptight and
- 59:15Speaker 8: not you know, I don't know.
- 59:17Speaker 7: I don't know the guy.
- 59:18Speaker 8: These are just what I pick up on body language
- 59:20Speaker 8: and communication style.
- 59:22Speaker 1: And maybe maybe I'm a little more idealistic kirk cous like, Oh,
- 59:27Speaker 1: he's a good guy. He'd come around and you know,
- 59:29Speaker 1: put his arm around JJ and be like, here you go,
- 59:32Speaker 1: this is what you need to know to be a
- 59:34Speaker 1: starter in this league. I don't know.
- 59:36Speaker 7: Did we see him ever like chit chatting with Kellen Mond.
- 59:39Speaker 4: I mean we know he was, Hey, Kellen Bond is
- 59:42Speaker 4: having some crazy success in the UFL right now. I
- 59:46Speaker 4: think he almost had one hundred and seventy yards passing
- 59:48Speaker 4: the other day.
- 59:50Speaker 7: Yeah, good for him.
- 59:53Speaker 1: All right, Well we're we're winding down here. We've got
- 59:56Speaker 1: a couple more questions for you guys. So last week
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: on our episode, Austin and I we tossed around some
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: of the most Vikings things ever. And that was kind
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: of inspired by Layton Glodeck. We had him on the
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: show about a month ago and he throughout some scenario
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: and he was like, it would be the most Vikings
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: thing ever if then he kind of filled in that
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: blank and that kind of got the light bulb turned
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: on for us, like, oh, we could toss around some ideas.
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: We've got countless examples of the most Vikings things ever
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: that have happened in even recent history, but all the
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: Vikings history. I mean, we're talking like Blair Walsh missing
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: missing the field goal. We're talking.
- 1:00:46Speaker 4: What the forty one donut and one donut.
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: All sorts of these would be the most Vikings things ever.
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: Even Gary Anderson missing the kick in the ninety eight
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: championship game. What's your guys' favorite most Vikings things ever?
- 1:01:09Speaker 4: Well, I'm not taking the bait here. I'm not going
- 1:01:11Speaker 4: to go all negative because we could do a five
- 1:01:14Speaker 4: hour show on bad things that have happened to the
- 1:01:16Speaker 4: Vikings and calling them our favorite when I still hate
- 1:01:18Speaker 4: them to death. So I have two favorite Vikings things.
- 1:01:22Speaker 4: Ever I'm going to spend positively. The first one is,
- 1:01:25Speaker 4: with a few exceptions, the Vikings knack for drafting wide receivers.
- 1:01:30Speaker 4: We just know that, outside of the quand treadwell, if
- 1:01:32Speaker 4: they're going to draft a wide receiver, they're going to
- 1:01:35Speaker 4: do it better than almost anybody else in the world.
- 1:01:37Speaker 4: I'll give you an example. During the twenty twenty three preseason,
- 1:01:41Speaker 4: three or four months prior, the Vikings had drafted Jordan Maddison.
- 1:01:45Speaker 4: We were watching I think it was a game against Seattle.
- 1:01:47Speaker 4: He had a tiptoe catch that they didn't count, but
- 1:01:51Speaker 4: that's all we needed to see. We saw that catch,
- 1:01:53Speaker 4: We're like, we've done it again. Boys, turn off the TV.
- 1:01:55Speaker 4: We found our next guy. I love that the Vikings
- 1:01:58Speaker 4: are the team that just find wide receivers Percy Harvin,
- 1:02:02Speaker 4: Randy Moss, Chris Carter, j Reed, Anthony Carter, Adam feel
- 1:02:05Speaker 4: and Stefan Diggs, Jordan Addison, Justin Jefferson. That's not normal
- 1:02:10Speaker 4: for a franchise. So the fact that Vikings are able
- 1:02:12Speaker 4: to find them with multiple general managers, I love it.
- 1:02:15Speaker 4: My second favorite Vikings thing ever is when shit gets
- 1:02:19Speaker 4: bad Allah losing your best player and Justin Jefferson in
- 1:02:22Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, yere Christian darisaw. Last year they go
- 1:02:25Speaker 4: on a win streak. It happens light clockwork. We joked
- 1:02:30Speaker 4: about it when Jefferson got hurt against the Chiefs in
- 1:02:32Speaker 4: October I think twenty twenty three, Boom, they won what
- 1:02:35Speaker 4: five in a row? Darasau gets hurt at Los Angeles.
- 1:02:38Speaker 4: I was there at the game. Face mask was missed.
- 1:02:41Speaker 4: I tweeted, this is some Viking shit. They're gonna start
- 1:02:43Speaker 4: winning games because they're franchise. Cornerstone left tackles out. Boom,
- 1:02:48Speaker 4: they won seven or eight games in a row. So
- 1:02:50Speaker 4: that's another. One of my favorite Vikings thing ever is
- 1:02:52Speaker 4: when the rest of the world panics about, oh my god,
- 1:02:54Speaker 4: we lost Kirk Cousins for the season. Like it usually
- 1:02:57Speaker 4: it turns into some win streak and it like, Josh,
- 1:03:00Speaker 4: it's really weird how it happens.
- 1:03:02Speaker 8: Yeah, oh okay, Dustin. Well, just to pony off that
- 1:03:08Speaker 8: really quick. First of all, Lecon Treadwell is at a.
- 1:03:10Speaker 7: Ten year career.
- 1:03:14Speaker 4: I can't believe it.
- 1:03:16Speaker 8: And you didn't mention Cordero, but he's had what yeah, nine.
- 1:03:22Speaker 4: He's gonna be a Hall of Famer.
- 1:03:23Speaker 5: He's still playing, isn't he?
- 1:03:25Speaker 4: Yes? I mean he looks like a tight end.
- 1:03:28Speaker 8: But yeah, right, I mean so just to just I
- 1:03:31Speaker 8: know you didn't mention Cordonal, but just because those two
- 1:03:33Speaker 8: didn't work out, I mean they technically did still work out.
- 1:03:35Speaker 7: The only one who I can think of that didn't
- 1:03:37Speaker 7: work out is our.
- 1:03:38Speaker 8: Guy, Troy Williamson, cool and nothing. You know, he's actually
- 1:03:44Speaker 8: me and Dustin's like favorite interview of all time. I
- 1:03:46Speaker 8: believe it, really, Yeah, yes, absolute absolute favorite, hands.
- 1:03:51Speaker 7: Down, And we've interviewed Randy Moss.
- 1:03:54Speaker 4: So yeah, like four four years ago last night? Actually,
- 1:03:58Speaker 4: oh was it?
- 1:04:00Speaker 7: I should look it up?
- 1:04:01Speaker 8: Okay, so you guys, I got to peep the list
- 1:04:04Speaker 8: for like two seconds before I got on.
- 1:04:05Speaker 4: Yeah, I forgot to send it to her.
- 1:04:08Speaker 8: I my mind always goes negative first, it does.
- 1:04:13Speaker 7: That's just that's just a default of mind.
- 1:04:15Speaker 8: And since I didn't have much time to think about this,
- 1:04:16Speaker 8: I don't even want to say it out loud to
- 1:04:18Speaker 8: be honest with you, I really don't even want to
- 1:04:20Speaker 8: say it out loud. What's coming to mind? But I
- 1:04:25Speaker 8: don't I really don't want to say it. But you
- 1:04:26Speaker 8: guys can probably figure it out. Oh.
- 1:04:29Speaker 4: There's the thing is, there's so many things that have
- 1:04:32Speaker 4: been the most Viking things ever that were negative. I
- 1:04:34Speaker 4: honestly can't figure out exactly which one.
- 1:04:37Speaker 7: I'm going to get slaughtered. I'm gonna get slaughtered.
- 1:04:39Speaker 8: I mean just you know basically that the first first
- 1:04:43Speaker 8: you know, finally get to draft a QB in the
- 1:04:45Speaker 8: first round and it's not great. It doesn't end up great. See,
- 1:04:48Speaker 8: I don't want to say it. I don't want to
- 1:04:50Speaker 8: say it.
- 1:04:51Speaker 7: But we haven't had any luck with that ever. And
- 1:04:55Speaker 7: obviously that's the biggest.
- 1:04:56Speaker 8: Talking point right now, So that would be that would
- 1:04:59Speaker 8: be also never mind, I don't want to it's sometimes
- 1:05:04Speaker 8: knee stuff. Obviously, Christian Ponder wasn't a knee That was
- 1:05:08Speaker 8: a lot of who knows what actually did we ever
- 1:05:09Speaker 8: find out what?
- 1:05:10Speaker 4: That was?
- 1:05:10Speaker 7: Just a lack of skill overall.
- 1:05:13Speaker 3: Christian, Well, there's there's a faction of Vikings Twitter that
- 1:05:16Speaker 3: will still say that he's the best. I think they're joking,
- 1:05:19Speaker 3: but they're still saying he's the best quarterback in history,
- 1:05:23Speaker 3: and yeah, I don't.
- 1:05:24Speaker 4: I don't get it because he was awful.
- 1:05:26Speaker 7: Who are you guys following.
- 1:05:30Speaker 4: Troll account? We are deep into Vikings Twitter.
- 1:05:34Speaker 7: You got case Keenums, you got Christian Ponders.
- 1:05:37Speaker 8: This is absurd. I have I have not seen this.
- 1:05:40Speaker 8: I have not seen this. I must have all these
- 1:05:42Speaker 8: people like muted or something. So that's what's coming to mind.
- 1:05:46Speaker 7: Unfortunately.
- 1:05:47Speaker 8: Yeah, Christian Ponder, I think maybe had different priorities. I
- 1:05:49Speaker 8: don't think he had the greatest support staff, and that
- 1:05:52Speaker 8: whole draft ended up being a mess of quarterbacks other
- 1:05:54Speaker 8: than Andy Dalton.
- 1:05:56Speaker 4: So I think Willene Garbett is a Super Bowl win?
- 1:06:00Speaker 4: Or is he not? Is he as a QB two
- 1:06:04Speaker 4: at the most?
- 1:06:06Speaker 7: What team? Sam?
- 1:06:07Speaker 4: Actually? No, I think he's a super Bowl loser. I think, yes, Sally,
- 1:06:11Speaker 4: I think he was with San fran But yeah, that's
- 1:06:14Speaker 4: the other was Bortles. That wasn't the Bortles draft? Was it? Yes?
- 1:06:18Speaker 4: I don't think it was.
- 1:06:19Speaker 8: Was it Jake Locker? Wasn't it Locker? Bortles?
- 1:06:25Speaker 7: What did we just say?
- 1:06:26Speaker 2: You forgot?
- 1:06:27Speaker 4: I think Gabert It appears Gabbert is a two time
- 1:06:31Speaker 4: Super Bowl champion, is he okay, twenty twenty bucks and
- 1:06:36Speaker 4: twenty twenty three chiefs? Okay? All right, Well that's not
- 1:06:40Speaker 4: who I was thinking, but I'm glad to know I
- 1:06:42Speaker 4: was accidentally right there.
- 1:06:43Speaker 8: I believe it was all of those, because I think
- 1:06:45Speaker 8: that's pretty much when I said, hey, I'm done getting
- 1:06:48Speaker 8: deep into the draft in my in my research, because
- 1:06:51Speaker 8: I spent so much damn time on those quarterbacks and
- 1:06:54Speaker 8: then look all of them fucking sucked. Yeah, Jake Law,
- 1:07:00Speaker 8: Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, and then we had Andy Dalton
- 1:07:07Speaker 8: in the second round, who was the only one.
- 1:07:10Speaker 7: Who's actually who's still in the league.
- 1:07:12Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's true. He resigned with Carolina. Dustin, I
- 1:07:16Speaker 4: think you had a famous tweet from last year right
- 1:07:20Speaker 4: after Sam Donald signed, and you said, you know, it's
- 1:07:24Speaker 4: gonna it's just gonna be like the Vikings where Sam
- 1:07:27Speaker 4: Donald is gonna be too good that you know, JJ
- 1:07:31Speaker 4: McCarthy's not gonna be able to crack the line up
- 1:07:33Speaker 4: because Sam Donald's too good. That would be the most
- 1:07:35Speaker 4: Vikings thing ever. So that's kind of what I think
- 1:07:38Speaker 4: we're gonna divide into camps. Yep, that's what we did.
- 1:07:42Speaker 4: That's almost a pinnable tweet for you because you were
- 1:07:45Speaker 4: dead right on this. Is it better than me predicting
- 1:07:48Speaker 4: Donald's going to Seahawks on February second? Those are those
- 1:07:52Speaker 4: are pretty close to each other, especially because the Seahawks
- 1:07:56Speaker 4: at the time still had Geno Smith. Yeah, and they yeah,
- 1:08:00Speaker 4: well Qbac was hired. That's what inspired the tweet because
- 1:08:03Speaker 4: I was like, I bet you that son of a
- 1:08:04Speaker 4: bitch thinks Darnold's good from the forty nine er days.
- 1:08:07Speaker 4: And then he did. And then like two days later
- 1:08:10Speaker 4: they came out and said Gino Smith's our guy. And
- 1:08:11Speaker 4: I was like, oh, there goes my prediction. And then
- 1:08:13Speaker 4: it came true like five weeks later. That is yeah,
- 1:08:17Speaker 4: just five weeks later.
- 1:08:19Speaker 7: That is wild.
- 1:08:20Speaker 4: All right, Well, both of you are frequent attenders of
- 1:08:23Speaker 4: Vikings games. Dustin, I know you're a season ticket holder, soal,
- 1:08:26Speaker 4: I don't know are you Are you a season ticket holder?
- 1:08:28Speaker 4: I am not.
- 1:08:29Speaker 7: I am not.
- 1:08:30Speaker 8: I just rolled by the seat of my pants usually
- 1:08:33Speaker 8: every morning on the on the Ticketmaster app or last year.
- 1:08:37Speaker 8: I was actually very blessed last year many I was
- 1:08:40Speaker 8: invited to be a guest several times.
- 1:08:42Speaker 7: So but I'm.
- 1:08:43Speaker 8: Almost always there, unless unless the price is just absurd.
- 1:08:48Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:08:48Speaker 4: Well, because you guys are usually there, We're like six
- 1:08:51Speaker 4: hours away, so we're not. At the most we get
- 1:08:53Speaker 4: to like one game a year. But because you.
- 1:08:55Speaker 3: Guys are usually there, you guys might have the opportunity
- 1:08:58Speaker 3: to participate in some tailgates. Sally, I know you're a
- 1:09:01Speaker 3: frequent tailgater. This one's just for fun. It's all just
- 1:09:05Speaker 3: for fun. But what makes up the perfect tailgate.
- 1:09:10Speaker 7: You want to take? This one doesn't because I'm kind
- 1:09:12Speaker 7: of an expert here, so you might want to.
- 1:09:13Speaker 4: Yeah, so you're a little little bit of knowledge. Well
- 1:09:18Speaker 4: you're asking this, ask me this at the wrong time
- 1:09:21Speaker 4: of my life. I'm forty one. I'm an alcoholic, but
- 1:09:23Speaker 4: I'm sober for twelve and a half years. So yeah,
- 1:09:27Speaker 4: back in the day, I would have, you know, probably
- 1:09:29Speaker 4: blacked out before the game even started, because that's what
- 1:09:31Speaker 4: I would do. So now my prerequisite for a tailgate
- 1:09:36Speaker 4: is what Sally does.
- 1:09:37Speaker 6: It.
- 1:09:37Speaker 4: It has to be family friendly because I'm bringing my
- 1:09:39Speaker 4: eight you know, today is my son's half birthday, April
- 1:09:42Speaker 4: fool today. Yep, he is eight and a half, so
- 1:09:45Speaker 4: he usually comes with and dances around they do the
- 1:09:47Speaker 4: Thunderstruck drinking game, and he usually drinks like a diet
- 1:09:50Speaker 4: Pepsi or something. So it is what makes a good
- 1:09:53Speaker 4: tailgate is the hospitality from folks like Sally, where you
- 1:09:58Speaker 4: can meander around the whole Viking tailgate section and you
- 1:10:02Speaker 4: just feel like you're at home because you know, that's
- 1:10:05Speaker 4: why folks do it is to be nice to others.
- 1:10:07Speaker 4: So it's a really boring dad answer, but it is,
- 1:10:11Speaker 4: you know, folks welcoming my family as if it were
- 1:10:13Speaker 4: just me personally.
- 1:10:15Speaker 5: Yeah, that's awesome.
- 1:10:17Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:10:17Speaker 8: So I actually, Dustin is actually the owner of my
- 1:10:21Speaker 8: tailgate spot, believe it or not, a little known fact.
- 1:10:23Speaker 8: And even if I don't go to the Vikings game,
- 1:10:25Speaker 8: I do always have a tailgate. I have a TV
- 1:10:27Speaker 8: setup and stuff like that, so I'll occasionally watch the
- 1:10:31Speaker 8: game outside I tailgated.
- 1:10:34Speaker 7: I don't know, I'm contemplating hanging.
- 1:10:36Speaker 8: It up, honestly, but tailgating is really a big deal
- 1:10:40Speaker 8: for me because people were so welcoming. I moved here
- 1:10:44Speaker 8: ten years ago from Richmond, Virginia, and that was obviously
- 1:10:47Speaker 8: a huge move for me. I moved because I'm a
- 1:10:49Speaker 8: Vikings fan and I just had so much FOMO from
- 1:10:53Speaker 8: not being able to go to games, and I had
- 1:10:54Speaker 8: met so many cool people from Vikings, Twitter, and when
- 1:10:57Speaker 8: I would come here, people made me feel so welcome
- 1:11:00Speaker 8: and like I belonged here at tailgates and stuff. And
- 1:11:04Speaker 8: the last couple of years that I didn't have my
- 1:11:07Speaker 8: own tailgate, I was with people who were not that way,
- 1:11:10Speaker 8: who were very standoffish and who would like scold me
- 1:11:16Speaker 8: for like bringing somebody by and giving them a beer
- 1:11:18Speaker 8: despite me bringing my own drinks, and so it got
- 1:11:21Speaker 8: it was embarrassing to me because as many people who
- 1:11:25Speaker 8: recognize me from the Internet or say hi to me
- 1:11:27Speaker 8: from Twitter and stuff, like I can't anyway.
- 1:11:29Speaker 7: It was mortifying.
- 1:11:30Speaker 8: So getting my own spot was really important to me,
- 1:11:32Speaker 8: and I just it's really important to me to make
- 1:11:36Speaker 8: anybody feel welcome, even if I don't know you or
- 1:11:38Speaker 8: anything like that.
- 1:11:39Speaker 7: So I just want anybody to feel like.
- 1:11:43Speaker 8: They're at home at us Bank Stadium and pay it
- 1:11:45Speaker 8: forward for those people who did that for me.
- 1:11:48Speaker 7: As far as what makes a good tailgate, I think
- 1:11:51Speaker 7: my personal favorite thing about it is a great after party.
- 1:11:56Speaker 7: That's something I'm very passionate about.
- 1:11:58Speaker 8: No one has an after party which I don't understand, like,
- 1:12:02Speaker 8: we don't get the opportunity to have these all that often,
- 1:12:05Speaker 8: and so I love.
- 1:12:07Speaker 7: Being one of the very few people that host those.
- 1:12:11Speaker 4: Does a loss immediately kill the idea of an after party?
- 1:12:15Speaker 8: Not for me anymore, I think, because now I have
- 1:12:19Speaker 8: adopted the mindset in the last couple of years, especially
- 1:12:22Speaker 8: since COVID, that I wouldn't know any of these people.
- 1:12:26Speaker 7: I wouldn't have the life that I have right now.
- 1:12:28Speaker 7: I wouldn't be talking to you guys.
- 1:12:30Speaker 8: I wouldn't know Dustin, I wouldn't have the amazing circle
- 1:12:33Speaker 8: of friends that I have if it wasn't for this
- 1:12:35Speaker 8: team bringing me together with them. And I'm to the
- 1:12:39Speaker 8: point where I will not let this team, no matter
- 1:12:41Speaker 8: how ugly the losses ruin that these moments for me.
- 1:12:46Speaker 8: So if anything, which is crazy, if you guys would
- 1:12:49Speaker 8: have known me back in.
- 1:12:50Speaker 7: The day, I'm kind of like trying.
- 1:12:53Speaker 8: To raise people's spirits if anything, And you know, maybe
- 1:12:56Speaker 8: I'll play a couple depressing songs like Third Eye, Blind Jumper,
- 1:12:59Speaker 8: or you know, like let's embrace this feeling, but let's
- 1:13:03Speaker 8: not let it ruin our night.
- 1:13:05Speaker 7: Let's enjoy our time together.
- 1:13:08Speaker 5: Yeah, that's awesome.
- 1:13:09Speaker 4: I guess, is US Bank the best tailgate scene or
- 1:13:13Speaker 4: have you been to better? Better spots? Where are they?
- 1:13:16Speaker 7: It's probably the worst, to be honest with you. Oh, no,
- 1:13:19Speaker 7: probably the worst in my opinion.
- 1:13:22Speaker 8: I mean, there's so many that are better. I mean,
- 1:13:25Speaker 8: they're pretty much all better that I've ever been to.
- 1:13:28Speaker 8: Kansas City is amazing. Green Bay hate to give them
- 1:13:30Speaker 8: any compliments, but they're amazing and actually very welcoming and
- 1:13:34Speaker 8: very kind.
- 1:13:35Speaker 7: The Bengals are awesome.
- 1:13:38Speaker 8: I didn't I haven't experienced much at Carolina or Baltimore's
- 1:13:44Speaker 8: pretty good. I mean Minnesota, they're very small, so because
- 1:13:48Speaker 8: they decided to keep the stadium downtown and it's such
- 1:13:51Speaker 8: a bigger footprint than the Metrodome was, there's not a
- 1:13:53Speaker 8: lot of room. Plus you know, the real estate they
- 1:13:57Speaker 8: pretty much sold it all, so there's there's very little
- 1:14:00Speaker 8: to choose from, and a lot of people just.
- 1:14:02Speaker 7: Park there and don't tailgates. So I mean, I would.
- 1:14:05Speaker 8: Say, I mean mine, Yeah, there's a corner of my
- 1:14:07Speaker 8: parking lot that that's pretty decent.
- 1:14:09Speaker 7: But yeah, it's pretty chill in comparisons.
- 1:14:13Speaker 4: Usually when you go to a road game and you're
- 1:14:16Speaker 4: in the business of tailgating, there is an absolute sea
- 1:14:19Speaker 4: of designated humanity, whereas if you're going to a Vikings end,
- 1:14:23Speaker 4: you have to figure out like WHOA, where can I go?
- 1:14:25Speaker 4: And then you'll walk around, you'll stumble into like kind
- 1:14:27Speaker 4: of fragmented tailgate's going on, and you're like, am I
- 1:14:31Speaker 4: supposed to be here or not? But if you go
- 1:14:33Speaker 4: to like Miami, even though I don't think they were
- 1:14:34Speaker 4: the cream of the crop, or San Francisco Santa Clara,
- 1:14:37Speaker 4: you go and it's like like twenty times the size
- 1:14:41Speaker 4: of the Vikings allotment, and so it just feels like
- 1:14:44Speaker 4: more of an organized endeavor. But Sally's points all because
- 1:14:47Speaker 4: of the geographical I guess zoning that's been allocated US bank.
- 1:14:51Speaker 4: I think the I guess we're biased because of the Vikings fans.
- 1:14:54Speaker 4: But I think the culture that I see at the
- 1:14:57Speaker 4: Vikings Tilgate is fantastic. But if you're talking about like, uh, schematics,
- 1:15:01Speaker 4: the other places have US beat.
- 1:15:03Speaker 8: Yeah, I will say I feel like, and I mean
- 1:15:06Speaker 8: maybe I'm maybe I don't know, I shouldn't be sitting
- 1:15:08Speaker 8: on it, but I feel like other places I go
- 1:15:10Speaker 8: they're much more like, hey, you want to come grab something.
- 1:15:12Speaker 7: To eat, like, I don't even know you.
- 1:15:13Speaker 8: But hey, I don't witness that as much at ours,
- 1:15:16Speaker 8: but I've I've been hosting now for three years, so
- 1:15:19Speaker 8: I don't walk around much anymore.
- 1:15:21Speaker 7: So yeah, I don't. I don't know. And thanks for
- 1:15:25Speaker 7: Dustin his name, his name was on the deed.
- 1:15:28Speaker 8: I think I got I think I got signed as
- 1:15:30Speaker 8: a as a co owner eventually this year.
- 1:15:34Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the only other stadium I've experienced any
- 1:15:37Speaker 3: kind of tailgate scene was Arrowhead and their whole footprint
- 1:15:42Speaker 3: is like in an island. You're you're not accidentally by
- 1:15:45Speaker 3: that stadium. You have to purposely go there.
- 1:15:47Speaker 4: And it's like a mile or two or five that
- 1:15:50Speaker 4: you have to walk from the edge of the parking
- 1:15:52Speaker 4: lot just to get to the stadium. So it's pretty
- 1:15:54Speaker 4: well set up for tailgating. But yeah, Vikings US Bank
- 1:15:57Speaker 4: is in downtown. The stadium is just another building with
- 1:16:00Speaker 4: everything else. So yeah, I could see how that could
- 1:16:02Speaker 4: be difficult.
- 1:16:04Speaker 7: Yeah, one way in and one way out to Arrowheads.
- 1:16:07Speaker 8: So and they take a lot of pride on it,
- 1:16:10Speaker 8: and yeah, I mean it's it's definitely, I mean, every
- 1:16:13Speaker 8: stadium has a has a different feel for sure, and
- 1:16:16Speaker 8: a lot of the ones that are more corporate, I mean,
- 1:16:18Speaker 8: I don't know if corporate is the right word, but
- 1:16:20Speaker 8: a lot of them have things you can pay for
- 1:16:22Speaker 8: that you're it's like, oh, fifty dollars and you can
- 1:16:24Speaker 8: go eat all you want and drink all you want
- 1:16:26Speaker 8: or things like that. I've definitely seen that at the
- 1:16:28Speaker 8: Ravens games or Panthers games, maybe even Seahawks.
- 1:16:32Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 1:16:32Speaker 8: Seahawks didn't have much going on when I went there either,
- 1:16:34Speaker 8: but that was a Monday night. If you go to
- 1:16:36Speaker 8: a Vikings game on a prime time don't expect anything.
- 1:16:39Speaker 8: It's going to be real bleak really, which I don't
- 1:16:42Speaker 8: understand it should be the opposite.
- 1:16:43Speaker 4: But yeah, all day, Yeah.
- 1:16:47Speaker 7: You would think so, all right, I mean, you.
- 1:16:49Speaker 4: Got anything else before we start wrapping everything up.
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: No, this has been awesome though. We really appreciate you
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: guys coming on.
- 1:16:55Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thank you, Thank you guys so much. We'll
- 1:16:58Speaker 3: go and order dustin. You've plugged a bunch of things
- 1:17:02Speaker 3: on our show. But as as always, we want to
- 1:17:04Speaker 3: give you the opportunity. Where can people find you? What
- 1:17:06Speaker 3: are you working on that you're proud of that you want.
- 1:17:08Speaker 4: People to see? Uh, plug yourself. What are you got
- 1:17:11Speaker 4: going on? Vikings Territory dot Com is where I write
- 1:17:14Speaker 4: along with Adam Knew from England, Ted Schwirzler who crosses
- 1:17:18Speaker 4: over from Minnesota Twins fandom. Tony Schultz is a newcomer.
- 1:17:22Speaker 4: He used to do a radio show in southeast Minnesota.
- 1:17:25Speaker 4: So it's all these other guys that can we We
- 1:17:28Speaker 4: write about the Vikings pretty much all damn day and
- 1:17:31Speaker 4: uh this last month was the most exciting time to
- 1:17:33Speaker 4: do it because of free agency and roster construction. But
- 1:17:36Speaker 4: a close consolation prize is draft time because this draft
- 1:17:39Speaker 4: is so unpredictable. Usually we know going into a draft like,
- 1:17:42Speaker 4: oh my god, they need a cornerback geez right now.
- 1:17:45Speaker 4: Almost every position we're like that can work. So we're
- 1:17:48Speaker 4: gonna go into that Thursday night thinking God, who is
- 1:17:51Speaker 4: it gonna be? Is it gonna be a safety, a
- 1:17:53Speaker 4: running back? Anything could happen. So yeah, that's my plugged
- 1:17:57Speaker 4: Vikings Territory dot Com and the sister site purple ptsd
- 1:18:01Speaker 4: Awesome sal Where can people find you? What are you
- 1:18:03Speaker 4: working on?
- 1:18:04Speaker 8: Well, let's see, I had, like I said, I've got
- 1:18:06Speaker 8: Vikings first in school network on that's on YouTube, which
- 1:18:10Speaker 8: is where I work with Tyler Fournas and Dave. And
- 1:18:13Speaker 8: then what I'm really trying to grow right now actually
- 1:18:17Speaker 8: is the TikTok.
- 1:18:17Speaker 7: So that's sal underscore Spice.
- 1:18:20Speaker 8: I'm really That's what I'm trying to focus on right
- 1:18:22Speaker 8: now and doing some TikTok lives and stuff like that.
- 1:18:26Speaker 8: That's the most lucrative of the platforms, as you may know.
- 1:18:29Speaker 8: So that's what I'm trying to get up. And yeah,
- 1:18:32Speaker 8: then I just have to have the underscore on there
- 1:18:34Speaker 8: because somehow there's another sell Spice in this world that
- 1:18:38Speaker 8: got it before me.
- 1:18:39Speaker 4: So interesting.
- 1:18:41Speaker 7: Yeah, who the heck is she? I don't know.
- 1:18:42Speaker 8: But and then yeah, Instagram and Twitter and blue Sky
- 1:18:47Speaker 8: all sell Spice.
- 1:18:49Speaker 5: Awesome.
- 1:18:49Speaker 3: Well, we'll do our best to try to tag everything
- 1:18:52Speaker 3: and everywhere for both of you guys. We really appreciate
- 1:18:56Speaker 3: every time we have any visitors, but especially you guys.
- 1:18:58Speaker 4: Thank you so much for coming on giving us your takes.
- 1:19:01Speaker 4: You guys, open door policy if you ever want to
- 1:19:03Speaker 4: come back on again, like I always say, not that
- 1:19:06Speaker 4: you don't have a thousand other routes to talk about
- 1:19:08Speaker 4: the Vikings anywhere else, but if you want to come
- 1:19:10Speaker 4: on and talk to us again. We'd welcome you guys
- 1:19:12Speaker 4: back anytime. Thank you guys so much for coming and
- 1:19:15Speaker 4: talking to us. Hell yeah, hit me up the Tuesday
- 1:19:18Speaker 4: or whatever before the draft. Okay, perfect.
- 1:19:21Speaker 7: Yeah, I would love to be back. And you guys
- 1:19:24Speaker 7: will have to do my show sometime.
- 1:19:25Speaker 4: As well, so perfect. Yeah, that'd be great.
- 1:19:28Speaker 1: Sounds good.
- 1:19:29Speaker 7: All right, thanks guys.
- 1:19:30Speaker 4: Yikes.
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: All right, Well that was an awesome conversation with Dustin
- 1:19:35Speaker 1: and Sally.
- 1:19:36Speaker 2: We got to bring Sally Spice on for the first time.
- 1:19:39Speaker 1: Super cool, super fun and got to ask him some
- 1:19:42Speaker 1: good questions and got some.
- 1:19:44Speaker 2: Really good responses. Had a good conversation.
- 1:19:46Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a blast. I loved that.
- 1:19:49Speaker 3: It was pretty clear that you and Sal kind of
- 1:19:52Speaker 3: differed on the whole Kirk Cousins opinion, not enough that
- 1:19:56Speaker 3: you were arguing with each other. But yeah, it was
- 1:19:58Speaker 3: a good conversation. Skullhoppers, if for some crazy reason you
- 1:20:03Speaker 3: know about us, you follow us, and you don't know
- 1:20:06Speaker 3: about Dustin or Sal Spice, follow those guys subscribe to
- 1:20:12Speaker 3: their stuff. We will do our best to tag everything
- 1:20:16Speaker 3: of theirs below. Specifically, what is it the skull Scoldiers
- 1:20:21Speaker 3: and Spice I think is what sal hosts her YouTube
- 1:20:24Speaker 3: show obviously, Dustin's on Vikes Now and Vikings Territory. Go
- 1:20:30Speaker 3: check them out there. They're fantastic content creators and we
- 1:20:33Speaker 3: we loved having them on tonight. I think we would
- 1:20:35Speaker 3: definitely welcome both of them on any other time, you know,
- 1:20:39Speaker 3: in the future.
- 1:20:40Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:20:40Speaker 3: Absolutely, what did you think about this wild Eddie This?
- 1:20:44Speaker 3: I mean, it's a fantastic beer. I actually have a
- 1:20:48Speaker 3: little bit more of this beer than I thought I did,
- 1:20:50Speaker 3: which gets me really excited. Yeah, Big Grove, I think
- 1:20:55Speaker 3: I said it last week. I've said it countless times.
- 1:20:58Speaker 3: I have yet to have a bad beer from Big Grove.
- 1:21:02Speaker 3: I have yet to have a beer that isn't even
- 1:21:05Speaker 3: you know, my kind of beer from Big Grove. They
- 1:21:07Speaker 3: all they do is put out great stuff. Again, thank
- 1:21:10Speaker 3: you Big Grove. You guys provided what four six packs
- 1:21:13Speaker 3: for us. I mean, getting anything from a brewery, especially
- 1:21:18Speaker 3: as good as Big Grove is awesome. But yeah, thank
- 1:21:20Speaker 3: you Big Grove for providing that for us. And awesome.
- 1:21:23Speaker 3: It's the cherry on top that it's actually really good too,
- 1:21:25Speaker 3: and we don't have to lie about like, oh yeah
- 1:21:27Speaker 3: this is really good when it's not this wild Eddie's great.
- 1:21:31Speaker 1: I'd like to think we put out some really good
- 1:21:33Speaker 1: stuff too. Where can people find our stuff?
- 1:21:36Speaker 3: I mean, as far as our content, we're everywhere social media.
- 1:21:39Speaker 3: Just search the skull Hop. That's where we are. Facebook, Twitter,
- 1:21:44Speaker 3: x whatever you want to call it, Instagram, TikTok, we're
- 1:21:48Speaker 3: trying to grow everything. YouTube for sure, Spotify. However, you're
- 1:21:53Speaker 3: listening to us right now, it would actually be interesting.
- 1:21:56Speaker 3: I'm kind of interested to see, Like, I know that
- 1:21:59Speaker 3: our podcast is out on like Apple Podcasts and Spotify
- 1:22:02Speaker 3: and even like YouTube, But is somebody out there listening
- 1:22:06Speaker 3: on like Amazon Music or something, you know, something I
- 1:22:10Speaker 3: wouldn't normally think about. So if you are, let us know.
- 1:22:13Speaker 3: Send us an email. We do have an email address,
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- 1:22:19Speaker 3: let us know how you're listening to us and what
- 1:22:21Speaker 3: you like about us, because obviously you like us right
- 1:22:25Speaker 3: and email specifically, we've still got it going on. If
- 1:22:28Speaker 3: you send us an email and you want us to,
- 1:22:30Speaker 3: we will send you a sticker. We've got a couple
- 1:22:31Speaker 3: of different designs. They're pretty sweet.
- 1:22:33Speaker 1: Yeah, they're in here somewhere anyways.
- 1:22:36Speaker 2: Really good beer tonight, fantastic beer.
- 1:22:39Speaker 1: Really good episode hanging out with Salaspice and Dustin Baker.
- 1:22:43Speaker 2: Maybe best episode yet.
- 1:22:45Speaker 6: Maybe it's cool, it's cool.
- 1:23:01Speaker 4: Assass