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- 0:08Speaker 1: I know that song. It's got a beat that you
- 0:10Speaker 1: can dance to, doesn't it? No, not real. Not we can.
- 0:14Speaker 1: Not really.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Maybe somebody can.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. It's time to go. Showtime, as they say.
- 0:19Speaker 1: It's West Virginia and the Cowboys of Oklahoma State. And
- 0:23Speaker 1: this is Three Guys Before the Game, episode number 741.
- 0:28Speaker 1: The band is in, and we're ready to play for you.
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- 1:02Speaker 1: way into the stadium this weekend. Three guys brought to
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- 1:14Speaker 1: providing value beyond the numbers. See that new logo they got? Oh,
- 1:19Speaker 1: I do see that. That's pretty nice. New branding there
- 1:21Speaker 1: for them. Oh, yeah. I'm sure they'll be the folks
- 1:24Speaker 1: that come. That probably costs a lot of money to
- 1:25Speaker 1: get a new logo. You know those logo people that
- 1:26Speaker 1: make logos, they charge a lot of money for nothing. Anyway,
- 1:29Speaker 1: that one looks good.
- 1:30Speaker 2: What?
- 1:31Speaker 1: They do. They do. How much is the logo going
- 1:35Speaker 1: to cost? Oh, well, you go, seriously? Anyway, now I've
- 1:40Speaker 1: got the graphic artist mad at me.
- 1:41Speaker 2: The graphic artist.
- 1:43Speaker 1: Now it's just like plugging into AI. Now your wife
- 1:45Speaker 1: hates me, huh? Oh, yeah. And three guys brought to
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- 1:55Speaker 2: And my sponsor for obvious observations.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Is non-existent.
- 2:00Speaker 3: Correct, sir.
- 2:01Speaker 1: I've been wrestling with this microphone the last couple of shows.
- 2:04Speaker 1: It kind of does its thing. Anyway. All right, so
- 2:08Speaker 1: let's jump in, man. This is going to be fun.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Saturday night. These are the games that, you know, you
- 2:14Speaker 1: think about, that you romance about, that you look back.
- 2:19Speaker 2: What is going on?
- 2:19Speaker 1: I mean, what is this?
- 2:21Speaker 2: Wow.
- 2:22Speaker 1: I'm just making mic noise. Didn't even shut it off.
- 2:24Speaker 1: I'm just making mic noise. These are the games you
- 2:26Speaker 1: think about when you think about a football season, right?
- 2:28Speaker 1: When you think about a football season, you think about,
- 2:31Speaker 1: High stakes games, West Virginia undefeated, Oklahoma State with a
- 2:36Speaker 1: victory over number eight, Oregon. It's your Big 12 conference opener.
- 2:40Speaker 1: The folks on the television side said, you know what?
- 2:42Speaker 1: Let's not play it when the sun's out. Let's play
- 2:44Speaker 1: it at nighttime. And by the way, I noticed last night,
- 2:47Speaker 1: it was 7.09 last night. It was dark.
- 2:49Speaker 3: Yeah, it gets dark early. It was dark.
- 2:51Speaker 1: Don't like it either. Next week, dark at 5.02. Well,
- 2:54Speaker 1: you're going to have snow in the next couple of weeks.
- 2:56Speaker 1: I'm sure it'll be coming down there. But anyway, it
- 2:58Speaker 1: does get dark. So it's going to be under the lights.
- 3:00Speaker 1: And what more do you want if you're a football
- 3:02Speaker 1: fan and it's on your home field? So this is
- 3:05Speaker 1: what you hope for.
- 3:07Speaker 2: It is.
- 3:07Speaker 1: That's my obvious observation.
- 3:09Speaker 2: Well, it's obvious. But I'll tell you this, that maybe
- 3:13Speaker 2: it's just me, but I feel like I'm sort of
- 3:15Speaker 2: like the coaches in that at about 24 hours, I
- 3:20Speaker 2: felt relieved about Virginia. Like, oh, you know, the joy.
- 3:24Speaker 2: Then I started to get anxious. And I started. So
- 3:27Speaker 2: now I'm just wracked with anxiety about this game.
- 3:31Speaker 1: Really?
- 3:32Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, which I will get to in obvious observations. But, Brad,
- 3:36Speaker 2: you've got to celebrate. You've got to put that win
- 3:39Speaker 2: behind you pretty quickly.
- 3:40Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what? It sure was fun. And, Tony,
- 3:43Speaker 3: I think you're dead on. And it's been interesting listening
- 3:46Speaker 3: to some of the national talk this week that, oh, hello, everybody.
- 3:50Speaker 1: We're here.
- 3:51Speaker 3: Guess who has slid into the national conversation? And some
- 3:54Speaker 3: of it's because this is a really good game. This
- 3:56Speaker 3: is one of those games– that when you spend all
- 3:58Speaker 3: your time talking about the Big Ten and SEC, there's
- 4:00Speaker 3: a few people left out there that still say, I
- 4:02Speaker 3: tell you what, you know what's a good game? This
- 4:04Speaker 3: is a fun game. This is an attractive game, as
- 4:07Speaker 3: you like to say a lot. And West Virginia and
- 4:09Speaker 3: Michael Hawkins have put themselves back on the national radar again.
- 4:13Speaker 3: You've got a national stage to do this and a
- 4:15Speaker 3: night game, as you guys mentioned, with a game that
- 4:18Speaker 3: means something. The winner's likely ranked. The winner is in
- 4:21Speaker 3: a position where you're talking about, oh, hey, you're four
- 4:24Speaker 3: games in, but you guys Shot to contend for the
- 4:26Speaker 3: Big 12 title. There's a lot of things that come
- 4:28Speaker 3: with this one if you find a way to get
- 4:30Speaker 3: a win.
- 4:30Speaker 2: Brad, you're right. After everybody finishes talking about the SEC
- 4:34Speaker 2: and the Big 10, there is a national narrative because
- 4:37Speaker 2: of West Virginia. Oh, three and a hook. Rich Rod
- 4:39Speaker 2: might be turning things around. And the fact that Oklahoma
- 4:42Speaker 2: State beat Oregon. So that adds to something like, oh,
- 4:45Speaker 2: I want these guys.
- 4:46Speaker 1: You know.
- 4:47Speaker 3: Each team comes in with two of the better wins.
- 4:49Speaker 3: They own a ranked win. The Oklahoma State over Oregon
- 4:52Speaker 3: is one of the biggest surprises, I think, of the
- 4:54Speaker 3: early college football season. So, yeah, I think you're right.
- 4:56Speaker 3: That's part of what adds to the attraction is both
- 4:58Speaker 3: of these teams have proven it against other really good
- 5:01Speaker 3: teams so far this year.
- 5:02Speaker 1: When it comes to storylines for the TV folks or
- 5:05Speaker 1: for anybody that's following this game, you can't script one
- 5:08Speaker 1: better than this at the quarterback position. Yeah. You've got
- 5:11Speaker 1: Michael Hawkins, who has imploded nationally. And people are going like,
- 5:15Speaker 1: wait a second, have you seen that guy? And then
- 5:17Speaker 1: you just take a look at the numbers.
- 5:18Speaker 3: Exploded.
- 5:18Speaker 1: Exploded. Imploded.
- 5:19Speaker 2: Exploded. Freudian slip.
- 5:21Speaker 1: Hey, listen, I was half right with ploded.
- 5:24Speaker 2: He's exploded.
- 5:25Speaker 1: Ploded was down. He exploded. He's exploded, right? And so
- 5:28Speaker 1: people are going, oh, did you see this guy in
- 5:29Speaker 1: West Virginia? Did you see that guy? And then, right,
- 5:31Speaker 1: you've got the marksman, Drew Mestemaker, who a year ago
- 5:36Speaker 1: people were raving about him as a freshman who as
- 5:39Speaker 1: a former walk-on freshman, and now here it goes for him.
- 5:45Speaker 1: His first date on the road in a Power Four
- 5:50Speaker 1: stadium under the lights at West Virginia, the same holds true.
- 5:56Speaker 1: So from a quarterback standpoint, head-to-head, you might have one
- 6:01Speaker 1: of the best matchups of the week.
- 6:03Speaker 3: And it's a great story. And it's also interesting, you
- 6:05Speaker 3: don't get this very often, Mestemaker comes in carrying the
- 6:08Speaker 3: July Heisman trophy that he won, which congratulations to him.
- 6:13Speaker 3: Hawkins counters by getting off the bus, walking into the
- 6:16Speaker 3: locker room with the September Heisman that he can put
- 6:19Speaker 3: a complete bow on with a good performance. So, Two
- 6:21Speaker 3: early Heisman winners in this game, Hoppy, which will be fun.
- 6:24Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 6:25Speaker 2: I love being prisoner of the moment.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Do you think Geno Smith left him the September Heisman?
- 6:29Speaker 3: He kept his.
- 6:30Speaker 1: He kept his September Heisman.
- 6:32Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a new one. New year, they do
- 6:33Speaker 3: a new trophy.
- 6:34Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 6:34Speaker 3: Yeah, Downtown Athletic Club has a lot of money. They
- 6:36Speaker 3: can do a new trophy each time.
- 6:37Speaker 1: The game going to be a lockout. Have they announced
- 6:39Speaker 1: it's sellout yet?
- 6:40Speaker 3: I don't think it's announced, but they're close.
- 6:42Speaker 2: And it's a gold rush.
- 6:43Speaker 1: Yeah, gold rush. Weather's going to be idyllic.
- 6:47Speaker 2: Hold on.
- 6:47Speaker 3: You don't need to announce that. You just need to
- 6:50Speaker 3: know that. because you didn't abide by the whiteout the
- 6:52Speaker 3: first game. You had to get bailed out by Phil
- 6:54Speaker 3: over at Daniels. So you don't need to say on
- 6:56Speaker 3: air that it's a gold rush. You just need to
- 6:58Speaker 3: take care of yourself with.
- 6:59Speaker 1: A gold rush. Do you have a gold shirt yet, Skippy?
- 7:00Speaker 2: Well, a little bit of information on that is when
- 7:05Speaker 2: I found out... This will be good. When I found out,
- 7:10Speaker 2: whatever day it was, earlier this week, that it's a
- 7:12Speaker 2: gold rush, I immediately made a panic text to find
- 7:15Speaker 2: looking Phil. Because I don't have any gold... Like, I
- 7:18Speaker 2: have one gold shirt... It caused a whole thing domestically,
- 7:21Speaker 2: which I won't get into.
- 7:24Speaker 1: What do you mean? I'd like to know about this. No,
- 7:25Speaker 1: you don't want to know. What did your wife say?
- 7:28Speaker 2: You don't need another shirt from Phil's.
- 7:31Speaker 3: Quick side note, everybody else might need a new shirt
- 7:34Speaker 3: from Phil. He dropped some new Peter Pilar gold, exclusive,
- 7:37Speaker 3: never before used on a West Virginia shirt. What does
- 7:40Speaker 3: it look like? It's more of a muted, almost more
- 7:44Speaker 3: in the old gold family.
- 7:46Speaker 1: It's more muted.
- 7:47Speaker 3: There's quarter zips. There's knits. Literally just unboxed it yesterday.
- 7:52Speaker 3: I had to go in. I worked a rare Wednesday
- 7:54Speaker 3: shift to help get them unboxed and get on a
- 7:57Speaker 3: mannequin there. You can order online or in-store. Side note,
- 8:00Speaker 3: PSA there.
- 8:01Speaker 1: So you will have a gold shirt, Hoppy?
- 8:02Speaker 2: Yes, I will.
- 8:03Speaker 3: So you won't pull a Kerchival and forget your gold shirt.
- 8:06Speaker 1: What about all your college buddies? Are they going to
- 8:07Speaker 1: have gold? Hoppy's got a big college buddy weekend. All
- 8:10Speaker 1: these knuckleheads that lived together 200 years ago downtown.
- 8:13Speaker 2: They're all coming in by... No, we.
- 8:16Speaker 1: Oh, coming in by train.
- 8:17Speaker 2: By train.
- 8:18Speaker 1: Sleeper car. That's the way we came to school when
- 8:21Speaker 1: we went to school, so we're going to come back
- 8:23Speaker 1: in and go through Grafton. It's a wonderful train town.
- 8:27Speaker 2: Yeah, more on that maybe after the weekend.
- 8:29Speaker 1: All right, let's do this.
- 8:30Speaker 3: He's got thoughts that sound brand new.
- 8:32Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 8:33Speaker 3: But they're things we already knew.
- 8:34Speaker 1: Already knew it.
- 8:35Speaker 2: He's got his whip already.
- 8:37Speaker 1: Heaven knows. Yeah.
- 8:38Speaker 2: Let's make it quick before his bladder blows.
- 8:41Speaker 1: No pee-pee breaks here. The bladder blow would be an implosion. Yeah,
- 8:55Speaker 1: that would be an implosion.
- 8:56Speaker 2: I set the alarm, guys, at 545 and woke up
- 8:58Speaker 2: and that song was in my head.
- 8:59Speaker 1: I like that. That's good. Like an earworm.
- 9:02Speaker 3: It was game day.
- 9:03Speaker 1: You were ready to go.
- 9:03Speaker 2: I was ready to go. Okay. The biggest opponent this
- 9:07Speaker 2: week is relief syndrome. Relief syndrome.
- 9:12Speaker 1: Explain further.
- 9:13Speaker 2: Sure. West Virginia against Virginia had one of their best
- 9:15Speaker 2: performances ever. everybody can agree, in a long time, all
- 9:19Speaker 2: three phases of the game. I know Rich Rod complained
- 9:21Speaker 2: about a couple of things, but really solid performance. Now,
- 9:25Speaker 2: the question is, can you replicate that performance in this
- 9:29Speaker 2: big game? I'm going to quote Coach Nick Saban, who
- 9:33Speaker 2: said this, success is not a continuum. It is momentary.
- 9:38Speaker 2: There's always a next challenge, a next game. And it's
- 9:41Speaker 2: Saban who coined the phrase relief syndrome. Here's the rest
- 9:44Speaker 2: of his quote. Relief syndrome, which is human nature, when
- 9:48Speaker 2: you have a big win, you're kind of relieved. And
- 9:51Speaker 2: you let your guard down a little bit. You think,
- 9:53Speaker 2: I should have the opportunity to celebrate my success. And
- 9:57Speaker 2: you let that carry over into the next challenge. It
- 9:59Speaker 2: starts affecting you. habits and performance. Now, Rich Rod and
- 10:03Speaker 2: his crew, I think, are very good at focusing on
- 10:05Speaker 2: the task at hand. But that is real, the relief syndrome.
- 10:09Speaker 2: And we've seen examples over the years. You have a
- 10:11Speaker 2: big win, then you have a letdown. Last year, you
- 10:14Speaker 2: beat Pitt, and then you got whacked by Kansas in
- 10:17Speaker 2: the next game. 2022, you beat Oklahoma. The next week,
- 10:20Speaker 2: you lost by 17 to K-State. 2018, you were 8-1.
- 10:25Speaker 2: You rolled over TCU 47-10. You're in the hunt for
- 10:29Speaker 2: the Big 12 title. Then you lost to Oklahoma State 45-41. Now,
- 10:33Speaker 2: there are other circumstances, too, avoiding a letdown. 2003, the
- 10:38Speaker 2: team started with losses to Wisconsin, Cincinnati, and Maryland. Then
- 10:41Speaker 2: you stunned Virginia Tech, who was ranked third at the time,
- 10:44Speaker 2: and they went on to win a bunch of games.
- 10:46Speaker 1: What year was that?
- 10:47Speaker 2: That was 2003.
- 10:49Speaker 1: Okay.
- 10:49Speaker 2: 2003. So to me, Brad, the relief syndrome is real.
- 10:55Speaker 2: The letdown potential is real. The question is, can you
- 10:59Speaker 2: avoid it?
- 10:59Speaker 3: Yeah, it avoids the definition of a letdown spot, though,
- 11:02Speaker 3: because you're at home at night in front of a
- 11:03Speaker 3: big crowd. That should help. But I do think, Hop,
- 11:05Speaker 3: to your point, I think consistency is the hardest thing
- 11:08Speaker 3: to get in sports. I think that is really what
- 11:11Speaker 3: you're striving for every day to be able to Pick
- 11:14Speaker 3: up your good performances and move them forward. In fact,
- 11:16Speaker 3: just yesterday at basketball, Ross Hodge did his post-game circle
- 11:20Speaker 3: speech on this and talked about.
- 11:22Speaker 1: Did you lean in on that?
- 11:23Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 11:24Speaker 1: You went right in? Yeah, I love the way he
- 11:26Speaker 1: does that. You in the circle all the way in?
- 11:28Speaker 3: No, I stayed on the outside. About five steps back.
- 11:29Speaker 3: I was getting a walk-in on the treadmill there, but
- 11:31Speaker 3: I stopped so I could hear the speech. But he
- 11:33Speaker 3: talked about that's the game. It's not the magic of
- 11:37Speaker 3: a three-point shot or an alley-oop dunk. It is the repetition...
- 11:41Speaker 3: over and over and over and over of the simple things.
- 11:45Speaker 3: And so can West Virginia do that? It did all
- 11:48Speaker 3: of those things the other night. To your point, all
- 11:50Speaker 3: three sides of the ball, as some used to say,
- 11:52Speaker 3: did all of those. Can it pick that performance up
- 11:54Speaker 3: and do it again with limited mistakes and success running
- 11:59Speaker 3: the inside zone and then running the inside zone and
- 12:01Speaker 3: then running the inside zone and throwing the ball down
- 12:03Speaker 3: the field? Consistency over and over.
- 12:06Speaker 2: And we've seen times, too, because I do think that's
- 12:08Speaker 2: the key. And we've seen times, too, where it wasn't
- 12:12Speaker 2: replicated and you tried. And what's the explanation?
- 12:15Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 12:16Speaker 2: It just wasn't there. We had a great week in practice.
- 12:19Speaker 2: I don't know. And so those things happen. I'm not
- 12:23Speaker 2: saying it will, but I'm saying that's something we should
- 12:25Speaker 2: be aware of going into this game.
- 12:27Speaker 1: I think so, too. I think these guys, these guys
- 12:31Speaker 1: being the coaching staff and Rich as the head of it,
- 12:34Speaker 1: does a very good job. of not letting them think
- 12:38Speaker 1: they've accomplished anything. As Rich often has said in the past,
- 12:42Speaker 1: I don't know if he still uses this line. He's
- 12:44Speaker 1: got a series of lines that, Brad, I don't know
- 12:46Speaker 1: if you've ever noticed it. He'll bring a line back.
- 12:48Speaker 1: But he is a strong advocate. I never pat him
- 12:51Speaker 1: on the fanny because they'll poop in your hand. And
- 12:54Speaker 1: what that means, that's translated to, you guys haven't done
- 12:57Speaker 1: anything yet. And he's really, really good at letting them
- 13:02Speaker 1: know that. And so They'll be ready to go. It
- 13:06Speaker 1: won't be a past. It won't be, hey, they weren't
- 13:08Speaker 1: ready to go.
- 13:09Speaker 3: Some of this, guys, some of the lack of consistency
- 13:12Speaker 3: has to do with the opponent as well. Sometimes opponents
- 13:15Speaker 3: you match up better against than others. I think this
- 13:17Speaker 3: is a challenging matchup for West Virginia's defense this week.
- 13:20Speaker 3: Not that last week wasn't, but I thought what Virginia
- 13:23Speaker 3: did and maybe more importantly couldn't do played into your hands.
- 13:26Speaker 3: This week may be different. But you know who else
- 13:28Speaker 3: is looking for consistency?
- 13:29Speaker 1: Yes.
- 13:30Speaker 3: Oklahoma State. Now they have to pick up their Oregon performance.
- 13:34Speaker 3: and put it in the plane and bring it here
- 13:36Speaker 3: in front of all these fans going crazy and hope
- 13:39Speaker 3: to replicate that. That's not an easy task either. Not
- 13:42Speaker 3: a letdown necessarily, but tough to replicate the consistency.
- 13:47Speaker 2: For Oklahoma State, I think they're all still wearing name
- 13:49Speaker 2: tags there to know who's who because they brought in
- 13:53Speaker 2: 90 players and 40 staff members.
- 13:56Speaker 3: Believed to be the biggest roster turnover in the history
- 13:59Speaker 3: of college football.
- 14:00Speaker 1: Yeah, bigger than Colorado.
- 14:01Speaker 3: In the world.
- 14:02Speaker 2: When Colorado brought in 87. And, Brad, as you talked about,
- 14:06Speaker 2: the loss to Tulsa in the opener. But they had
- 14:09Speaker 2: four turnovers in that game. Four turnovers. Turnovers matter. And
- 14:12Speaker 2: then they had 554 yards in the win over Oregon.
- 14:15Speaker 2: So you're right about the whole consistency issue. Against Virginia,
- 14:20Speaker 2: the story was West Virginia stopping the run, and they
- 14:22Speaker 2: were very successful. And I know, Brad, you're going to
- 14:24Speaker 2: talk about this, but the focus here probably is on
- 14:27Speaker 2: stopping Drew Mestemaker. And one of the challenges there, you know, Tony,
- 14:31Speaker 2: in that in that Virginia game, West Virginia was really
- 14:34Speaker 2: effective at pressuring the quarterback and bringing pressure. Zach Alley
- 14:38Speaker 2: bringing pressure from a lot of different places. So he
- 14:40Speaker 2: didn't know where it was coming from. So you try to,
- 14:43Speaker 2: I guess, replicate that. But Mestemaker gets rid of the
- 14:46Speaker 2: ball really quickly. I think Rich Rod said in the
- 14:48Speaker 2: news conference, like, less than two seconds.
- 14:51Speaker 1: 1.8's the number that they've been using.
- 14:54Speaker 3: 1.8 becomes this week's contain. I think a couple people
- 14:58Speaker 3: have maybe mentioned that maybe 1.8 has been out there
- 15:01Speaker 3: a little bit.
- 15:02Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 15:02Speaker 2: They do have a good running back, Caleb Hawkins. I'm sure, Brad,
- 15:05Speaker 2: you'll talk about him. Had 4.8 yards per carry and
- 15:09Speaker 2: a win over Oregon. I watched the opponent's press conference.
- 15:14Speaker 2: I watched the coach's press conference, and I... This is
- 15:17Speaker 2: interesting to me, I look for nuggets, that when you're
- 15:21Speaker 2: not very good, the press just asks about your team.
- 15:26Speaker 2: But when you got something going, they ask the coach
- 15:28Speaker 2: about the other team. So there were a lot of
- 15:31Speaker 2: questions in the very beginning of Coach Morris' press conference
- 15:37Speaker 2: about Hawkins. So that to me is a good sign, right?
- 15:42Speaker 2: They're not just asking about your guys, your guys, your guys,
- 15:44Speaker 2: What are you going to do about Hawkins?
- 15:47Speaker 1: I thought of that differently. When I watch the same thing,
- 15:49Speaker 1: you know what I thought?
- 15:50Speaker 3: What?
- 15:51Speaker 1: That's a group of media that's tuned in. I mean,
- 15:55Speaker 1: they're an educated group. They know the opposing team. They
- 15:58Speaker 1: know players on the opposing team. They get it. They
- 16:01Speaker 1: understand it. I thought it was just a little bit
- 16:03Speaker 1: more in-depth is what I kind of saw it as.
- 16:06Speaker 2: All right. I saw it as a positive.
- 16:08Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I mean, they're concerned.
- 16:09Speaker 2: They don't ask any questions about your team. Yeah, that's
- 16:12Speaker 2: what you're saying. Okay. Yeah. We talk about Brad, Tony,
- 16:15Speaker 2: you guys talk about regression to the mean. How about
- 16:17Speaker 2: the fact that the Cowboys have won the last five
- 16:19Speaker 2: in Morgantown? That's a weird series.
- 16:22Speaker 3: Five and two overall in what? It's eight out of ten?
- 16:24Speaker 3: Eight out of the last ten meetings?
- 16:25Speaker 1: West Virginia's won two of the last three.
- 16:27Speaker 2: Yeah, but the thing in Morgantown, that kind of surprised me.
- 16:31Speaker 1: The series, West Virginia's won in Stillwater in an unusual
- 16:34Speaker 1: clip compared to Oklahoma State winning in Morgantown in an
- 16:37Speaker 1: unusual clip. In this series, that's kind of been weird.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Texas Tech used to be like that. But, you know, anymore.
- 16:46Speaker 2: So watching Rich Rod's press conference, Coach Hunter asks, Coach,
- 16:51Speaker 2: are you worried about all the carries that Mike Hawkins
- 16:53Speaker 2: and Cam Cook are getting? After all, he didn't say
- 16:57Speaker 2: this is a great answer. After all, coach, they had
- 17:01Speaker 2: 48 of the 51 carries in the game. Rich Rod's
- 17:04Speaker 2: answer without skipping a beat. They're on scholarship. They're getting paid.
- 17:09Speaker 3: He went further, too, which I thought was really interesting.
- 17:12Speaker 3: He went further in his answer, and it was one
- 17:14Speaker 3: of those if you're watching him and looking at him,
- 17:15Speaker 3: like you could tell it was he was being forthright.
- 17:19Speaker 3: He was stunned. He claims he has no idea number
- 17:22Speaker 3: of carries. He's not worried about workload. He's never turned
- 17:25Speaker 3: to the running back coach and said, how many carries
- 17:27Speaker 3: does so-and-so have? He's just trying to get the next
- 17:30Speaker 3: first down were his words, which as we've talked for
- 17:33Speaker 3: many years, if you've watched Rich's offense at all, You
- 17:35Speaker 3: can believe that to be true. He's not counting carries.
- 17:38Speaker 1: Who do I trust? Who is producing?
- 17:41Speaker 3: You're going to get the ball. It's as simple as
- 17:42Speaker 3: that with him.
- 17:43Speaker 1: He's a bit myopic in his approach. The only thing
- 17:46Speaker 1: he cares about is the next play. And then when
- 17:48Speaker 1: that plays over, how do I go get more yardage?
- 17:50Speaker 1: How do I score? That's what he thinks about. And
- 17:53Speaker 1: who can best do that? Yeah, and if a position
- 17:55Speaker 1: coach comes to him and says, hey, coach, so-and-so, you know,
- 17:57Speaker 1: I got it. And he'll say, okay, fine. But like,
- 18:00Speaker 1: if he's got a green light, he's going to go
- 18:02Speaker 1: through the intersection. He said that.
- 18:04Speaker 2: And it was fun. It was, that's why I love
- 18:07Speaker 2: to watch these things because you get a lot of
- 18:08Speaker 2: coach speak. Then you get some nuggets. And it was
- 18:11Speaker 2: a good question by, by coach Hunter, but in the
- 18:14Speaker 2: Rich Rods, Kendra, where he just said, you know, guy,
- 18:17Speaker 2: you could tell he was like thinking, he said, I
- 18:19Speaker 2: don't think any time in my career as a head
- 18:22Speaker 2: coach I've ever worried about workload.
- 18:25Speaker 1: Surprise, surprise.
- 18:28Speaker 3: We could have answered that for him.
- 18:30Speaker 2: But I thought that was just like, you want to
- 18:33Speaker 2: know Rich Rod? You want to know him and him
- 18:35Speaker 2: as a coach? There it is, right?
- 18:37Speaker 3: If it works, I'm doing it again.
- 18:39Speaker 2: Yeah. Why stop? Actually, do you ever watch games and
- 18:44Speaker 2: a team is just controlling it and they do something
- 18:47Speaker 2: different and you go, what? Why did you do that?
- 18:49Speaker 3: Well, we did our show on game days for a
- 18:51Speaker 3: decade plus with Steve Dunlap, former defensive coordinator. Tony, he
- 18:55Speaker 3: would lose his mind every week multiple times about offensive
- 18:59Speaker 3: coordinators that would do just that. Something's working. Why would
- 19:02Speaker 3: you go away from it? And frankly, I talked about
- 19:04Speaker 3: it on Monday's show. Virginia did that, guys. They were
- 19:06Speaker 3: running successfully on first down. They inexplicably decided to throw
- 19:09Speaker 3: it a few times. I think it cost them.
- 19:11Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, oh, let's explore the playbook. Rich is going
- 19:15Speaker 2: to explore the playbook.
- 19:16Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 19:17Speaker 2: We talked last show about night game atmosphere as opposed
- 19:20Speaker 2: to a game at night.
- 19:22Speaker 1: And you would expect.
- 19:23Speaker 2: With the 3-0 record, with the night atmosphere, you're going
- 19:27Speaker 2: to have a good environment there, Tony.
- 19:29Speaker 1: Like I said, it's scripted, right? The weather's going to
- 19:32Speaker 1: be nice during the day, not too hot, not too cool.
- 19:36Speaker 1: It'll be a fantastic environment.
- 19:38Speaker 2: And finally, Gold Rush. If you want to be exact
- 19:41Speaker 2: on what to wear for Gold Rush, and Brad's familiar
- 19:44Speaker 2: with this from his days in marketing, The color is
- 19:48Speaker 2: PMS 125. is correct. PMS124C. WVU is very specific about
- 19:56Speaker 2: its branding when it comes to colors.
- 19:58Speaker 1: You think?
- 19:59Speaker 2: In fact, the official colors, of course, are gold and blue,
- 20:03Speaker 2: not blue and gold. And they actually, if you look
- 20:05Speaker 2: on their website, they say this. Please reference... The bullets
- 20:09Speaker 2: below bullet points, when using WVU colors, please refrain from
- 20:14Speaker 2: referring to WVU's colors as blue and gold. Don't refer
- 20:19Speaker 2: to gold as yellow. Oh, no. That would be a
- 20:21Speaker 2: criminal offense.
- 20:22Speaker 1: Yes.
- 20:23Speaker 2: So it does matter. So they're very specific about it.
- 20:27Speaker 1: PMS 124C. Right. If you've got a PMS chart at home,
- 20:31Speaker 1: you just want to make sure what hue it will be. Yes.
- 20:35Speaker 2: That's what I've got.
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- 23:10Speaker 2: I'm Terry Gross, and this is fresh air.
- 23:15Speaker 1: So if you were a tree, what kind of a
- 23:17Speaker 1: tree would you be?
- 23:18Speaker 2: Actually, she's a very good interviewer.
- 23:19Speaker 1: She's the best. Absolutely the best. Are you ready for
- 23:23Speaker 1: spreads on stats?
- 23:23Speaker 2: Let's roll.
- 23:24Speaker 1: Seriously, are you ready?
- 23:25Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 23:26Speaker 1: How do you feel?
- 23:27Speaker 2: Good.
- 23:28Speaker 1: What's that mean?
- 23:29Speaker 2: I got a bunch.
- 23:29Speaker 3: Actually, I got so much, I had to try and
- 23:30Speaker 3: pare it down.
- 23:31Speaker 2: You don't have relief syndrome?
- 23:32Speaker 3: There's a lot.
- 23:33Speaker 1: What does that mean?
- 23:33Speaker 3: There's a lot of stuff. There's one. You always ask me.
- 23:35Speaker 3: You didn't ask me this time.
- 23:36Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you.
- 23:37Speaker 2: There is one.
- 23:38Speaker 1: There is a number that made you go like, whoo?
- 23:40Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 23:41Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that.
- 23:42Speaker 3: There's a couple, actually.
- 23:43Speaker 1: More than one?
- 23:44Speaker 3: That surprised me a little bit.
- 23:46Speaker 1: Okay. Well, in that case.
- 23:47Speaker 2: I hope you surprised you.
- 23:48Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. Let's do it then. Let's do it. Time
- 23:51Speaker 1: for Spreads on Stats. We'll just go right to the numbers.
- 23:55Speaker 1: Here comes the heater. Yeah, baby. They got a new logo,
- 24:01Speaker 1: and they're ready to go. New season. I think they
- 24:03Speaker 1: probably waited on that to start a Big 12 play.
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- 24:50Speaker 1: All right, let's get into this thing.
- 24:52Speaker 3: Let's dive in.
- 24:52Speaker 1: Let's start.
- 24:53Speaker 3: We'll go big picture and niche it down here into
- 24:54Speaker 3: the weeds a little bit. This is a fun matchup
- 24:58Speaker 3: because it's kind of counterintuitive here.
- 25:00Speaker 1: What does that mean?
- 25:01Speaker 3: Well, Eric Morris, an air raid descendant, but he doesn't
- 25:05Speaker 3: throw it all the time, right? It's not the old
- 25:07Speaker 3: Mike Leach, kind of like Dana Morphin. Do you remember
- 25:09Speaker 3: how Dana... was originally just throw, throw, throw, then started.
- 25:12Speaker 1: To run it a little bit more. All those guys.
- 25:14Speaker 3: The new age air raid guys understand the run game.
- 25:17Speaker 3: So it's 54% pass, 46% run for Oklahoma State, which
- 25:21Speaker 3: I think would be surprising right there. It's also, here's
- 25:25Speaker 3: also why this is an odd mix. So MestaMaker's the headliner,
- 25:29Speaker 3: and rightfully so. He can really sling it. But Oklahoma
- 25:32Speaker 3: State's rush offense has been more impressive analytically.
- 25:36Speaker 2: Hoppy, analytically. All right.
- 25:37Speaker 3: Pick six previews. Has them number eight nationally, the Cowboys,
- 25:42Speaker 3: in per play rushing offense. Number eight nationally. So you're
- 25:45Speaker 3: going to have to stop the run a little bit.
- 25:46Speaker 3: The passing offense is 54th on a per play basis.
- 25:50Speaker 3: So you think of them as throw first, but the
- 25:52Speaker 3: run has been really important to them. Flip it over
- 25:55Speaker 3: to the other side. West Virginia is the exact opposite.
- 25:58Speaker 3: Rich Rodriguez and this offense known for running it. And
- 26:00Speaker 3: certainly they run it much more than they pass it.
- 26:03Speaker 3: But these passing metrics are just outrageous. And guys, I
- 26:06Speaker 3: think that's been a huge key to the season so
- 26:08Speaker 3: far and has to continue. If you're going to be
- 26:10Speaker 3: able to big play and hit these explosives in the
- 26:12Speaker 3: pass game, you've got a heck of a problem defensively
- 26:15Speaker 3: trying to figure out what to do. So can you
- 26:17Speaker 3: continue these passing metrics if you're West Virginia? Again, to
- 26:21Speaker 3: quote pick six previews, West Virginia fourth nationally in passing
- 26:25Speaker 3: offense per play. Air rich. 15th in rushing offense per play.
- 26:30Speaker 3: So again, offense has been clicking. All those numbers, of course,
- 26:34Speaker 3: adjusted for opponents, which makes them even more impressive. It
- 26:37Speaker 3: factors in.
- 26:38Speaker 1: Who you've played.
- 26:38Speaker 3: As we've mentioned, both of these teams have really good wins.
- 26:42Speaker 3: Let's get into Oklahoma State's offense here just a little bit.
- 26:46Speaker 3: I mentioned 54% of the time they've been throwing it,
- 26:48Speaker 3: but just 9% of their passes have been deep balls.
- 26:53Speaker 3: And that's part of the 1.8, the quick release. He
- 26:56Speaker 3: gets it out fast, but certainly you're not having a
- 26:59Speaker 3: ton of time to sit back there and throw it deep.
- 27:01Speaker 3: So they're very judicious about when they go deep a
- 27:04Speaker 3: lot underneath. So I'll get back into that in a
- 27:06Speaker 3: little bit and in one of our keys. They have
- 27:09Speaker 3: an almost identical success rate so far to what UVA had, 53%.
- 27:15Speaker 3: Just to put that in comparison to you, Arizona leads
- 27:18Speaker 3: the Big 12 at 62% success rate. These guys are
- 27:24Speaker 3: right around that 53% mark.
- 27:25Speaker 1: Define success rate.
- 27:27Speaker 3: Success rate is just your per play success. Is it
- 27:31Speaker 3: first down do you gain at least four, second down
- 27:32Speaker 3: do you gain four more yards, third down do you convert?
- 27:35Speaker 3: So success rate is based on those metrics. are you
- 27:38Speaker 3: successful on a play-by-play basis? Here's one of the numbers, Hoppy.
- 27:42Speaker 3: You mentioned that defensive pressure that West Virginia got against Virginia.
- 27:46Speaker 3: When they wanted to throw, when Pribula dropped back to throw,
- 27:50Speaker 3: someone was in his face and were delivering hits. That's
- 27:52Speaker 3: going to be a harder ask against this Oklahoma State team.
- 27:55Speaker 3: Just a 2% sack rate against them. They take on
- 27:59Speaker 3: a pressure rate of just 27%. So that would make sense.
- 28:02Speaker 3: For a team that unloads it quickly, it has been
- 28:04Speaker 3: hard to get home here. So This seems to me
- 28:07Speaker 3: like it's one of those, it's going to have to
- 28:09Speaker 3: be situational. Can you dial it up on a big
- 28:11Speaker 3: third down? Can you dial it up on some first
- 28:13Speaker 3: downs and get home to set up some second and longs?
- 28:16Speaker 3: You're probably not going to be able to get consistent
- 28:19Speaker 3: all-night pressure against this particular group. We'll get into their
- 28:22Speaker 3: offensive line here in just a second, though, because that's
- 28:24Speaker 3: something to keep an eye on. They're dealing with some
- 28:26Speaker 3: injuries along that front. Let's talk about the rush offense
- 28:30Speaker 3: for a second. Averaging nearly six yards per carry. They
- 28:34Speaker 3: run a ton of outside zone. So this is an
- 28:37Speaker 3: outside zone team versus a West Virginia team that loves
- 28:40Speaker 3: to live on the inside zone. The Cowboys are 47th
- 28:44Speaker 3: out of 68 power four teams in EPA per rush
- 28:49Speaker 3: and 39th in success rate. So again, those numbers are
- 28:53Speaker 3: lower than what you would expect for an offense that
- 28:56Speaker 3: is really good.
- 28:56Speaker 1: Okay, wait, time out. Yeah. Speak English. What's that mean?
- 28:59Speaker 3: Okay, I'm getting there. Just give me a second. West
- 29:02Speaker 3: Virginia has been very good against the run, as we know.
- 29:05Speaker 3: They're 21st among power four defenses in expected points added
- 29:09Speaker 3: per rush. So that means each play, how much did
- 29:13Speaker 3: it add to the points you expect to score on
- 29:15Speaker 3: that drive? So one of the reasons, and this is
- 29:17Speaker 3: what I was going to get to next, one of
- 29:20Speaker 3: the reasons Oklahoma State's success numbers are high, but EPA
- 29:25Speaker 3: looks a little bit lower, is they haven't had a
- 29:28Speaker 3: ton of explosives. And they haven't been explosive in the
- 29:30Speaker 3: past game. So they're successful down to down in moving it,
- 29:35Speaker 3: but their expected points added for per play doesn't jump
- 29:39Speaker 3: a ton because you don't have a big 30-yard pass
- 29:41Speaker 3: play 50-yard pass play that changes the EPA number a
- 29:44Speaker 3: bunch right if you go from your own 30 to
- 29:47Speaker 3: the other team's 35 your expected points on that play
- 29:51Speaker 3: took a massive jump up we'll get to that when
- 29:53Speaker 3: it comes to West Virginia because West Virginia's EPA numbers
- 29:56Speaker 3: are through.
- 29:56Speaker 1: The roof And they've struggled.
- 29:58Speaker 3: Follow me there.
- 29:59Speaker 1: Yeah, and these guys have struggled on third downs, which
- 30:01Speaker 1: was interesting.
- 30:02Speaker 3: We'll get to third down in a second because I
- 30:03Speaker 3: think that's also another massive key on this. Here's one
- 30:08Speaker 3: to watch.
- 30:08Speaker 1: Is this one of those wows?
- 30:10Speaker 3: This was, I don't know if it was a wow,
- 30:12Speaker 3: but it's a number to pay attention to. Oklahoma State
- 30:16Speaker 3: ranks 14th among power four teams in rush yards before contact.
- 30:22Speaker 3: They're getting about two and a half yards per clip
- 30:24Speaker 3: before someone's making contact with them. West Virginia's defense ranks
- 30:30Speaker 3: 66th out of 68 when it comes to yards before
- 30:33Speaker 3: contact allowed, giving up almost 2.7 yards per rush before
- 30:38Speaker 3: you hit somebody. Which of those numbers comes true? Does
- 30:41Speaker 3: Oklahoma State continue to have success getting yards before they're hit,
- 30:45Speaker 3: or can West Virginia shrink that number down a little bit?
- 30:47Speaker 3: I thought that was a, maybe not a wow, but
- 30:50Speaker 3: I thought that was a really interesting number right there.
- 30:53Speaker 1: That's relevant. That's a big, that's a woo, it's a
- 30:55Speaker 1: woo at least.
- 30:56Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 30:57Speaker 3: Offensive line injuries that Oklahoma State's dealing with. Game one
- 31:01Speaker 3: starter Jacob Sexton, a tackle, was lost for the season
- 31:04Speaker 3: in the opener. Another they expected to be a starter
- 31:08Speaker 3: but hasn't played this year is listed questionable in the
- 31:10Speaker 3: injury report. Sounds likely that he won't play in Braden Nelson.
- 31:14Speaker 3: He came with Morris from North Texas, where he was
- 31:17Speaker 3: an all-conference player. So there's a couple guys already. Their
- 31:20Speaker 3: right guard, Joseph Hansen, also appeared on the injury list
- 31:24Speaker 3: as questionable. He was their highest graded offensive lineman, but
- 31:28Speaker 3: sat out the Murray State game after getting injured against Oregon.
- 31:31Speaker 3: So a couple things with that offensive line. One, just
- 31:35Speaker 3: the injury situation. And they're down into their backups there.
- 31:38Speaker 3: How do they feel about their depth, number one. And
- 31:40Speaker 3: number two, Tony, you mentioned Mestemaker coming into a power
- 31:43Speaker 3: four road game for the first time. He's only played
- 31:45Speaker 3: one power four opponent in his career. That was Oregon.
- 31:48Speaker 3: Pretty good one. And pretty impressive win. So these guys
- 31:51Speaker 3: are really talented. They're not going to come in here
- 31:52Speaker 3: and melt down in front of your stadium. but can
- 31:55Speaker 3: you get an atmosphere bump out of this? And by that,
- 31:58Speaker 3: I mean, is there some miscommunication along the offensive line
- 32:02Speaker 3: in a couple key moments on a third down on
- 32:04Speaker 3: a missed blitz assignment that they, they think they've got
- 32:07Speaker 3: it communicated, but they either can't hear well enough or
- 32:10Speaker 3: it's these newer guys, these backups that are in. So
- 32:13Speaker 3: you're not going to probably overwhelm Oklahoma state, but can
- 32:16Speaker 3: you get some key moments where the crowd and miscommunication
- 32:19Speaker 3: help you? I think that's critical. Does it lead to a,
- 32:22Speaker 3: A blitz and then a fumble by Mestemaker. Does it
- 32:25Speaker 3: lead to a miscommunication on the hot route and you
- 32:27Speaker 3: get a pick because the linebacker jumps the route? That's
- 32:30Speaker 3: what I'm looking for. More than a meltdown. These guys
- 32:32Speaker 3: aren't going to meltdown.
- 32:32Speaker 1: I agree.
- 32:33Speaker 3: Totally talented.
- 32:33Speaker 1: You need you need.
- 32:34Speaker 3: Can you have strategic like strikes that get mistakes that help?
- 32:38Speaker 1: Can you have two to four miscues during a course
- 32:42Speaker 1: of an important drive where now they're going to have
- 32:44Speaker 1: to punt it because you just jumped and it was
- 32:46Speaker 1: third and one? And now it's third and six and
- 32:49Speaker 1: you don't convert on third and six. And so now, OK, yeah. Yeah.
- 32:52Speaker 3: And I think for an offense that can get it
- 32:54Speaker 3: rolling and get some momentum behind it and then go
- 32:57Speaker 3: super fast like Rich wants to go. These are two
- 32:58Speaker 3: of the fastest offenses in the country. You need something
- 33:01Speaker 3: that breaks the momentum at times. So can there be
- 33:04Speaker 3: some key strategic mistakes that come your way? Oklahoma State
- 33:08Speaker 3: defense for a second. They have stopped the run game
- 33:10Speaker 3: really well and got pressure. So those are two things
- 33:14Speaker 3: to watch right away. Can they handle West Virginia's running game?
- 33:16Speaker 3: And can they get home on Hawkins? So far, those
- 33:19Speaker 3: have been keys that West Virginia has been good, certainly,
- 33:23Speaker 3: to run against teams that have been good against stopping
- 33:25Speaker 3: the run. They have four sacks against Dante Moore of Oregon.
- 33:28Speaker 3: They really got after him. They lead the nation on
- 33:31Speaker 3: third down. This is if you want a stat that
- 33:33Speaker 3: you're going to keep an eye on. And again, a
- 33:35Speaker 3: lot of third down is predicated on early downs. Is
- 33:37Speaker 3: it third and four? Or is it third and seven
- 33:40Speaker 3: for West Virginia? Changes the playbook significantly. But Oklahoma State's defense,
- 33:45Speaker 3: opponents are converting just 16% of third downs against it.
- 33:49Speaker 3: That's really good, 16%. Conversely, West Virginia is one of
- 33:53Speaker 3: the better teams nationally, converting 50% plus on third down.
- 33:57Speaker 3: Which of those numbers stays true? Is it closer to
- 34:00Speaker 3: West Virginia's number, which is an impossibly high number to
- 34:03Speaker 3: continue with? But can you get closer to that? Or
- 34:05Speaker 3: does Oklahoma State's defensive number ring true?
- 34:08Speaker 1: 16% is also unrealistic, too, going forward.
- 34:11Speaker 3: Both of those numbers are probably unrealistic season-wise. They love
- 34:14Speaker 3: their defensive end. Ends, plural. James Williams, their highest graded
- 34:19Speaker 3: among that group. Jahlil Johnson is another. He leads them
- 34:22Speaker 3: in quarterback pressures. Dave Hunziker, their play-by-play voice, told us
- 34:26Speaker 3: last night on Sportsline, guys, they've been rotating in 12
- 34:28Speaker 3: to 14 defensive linemen. We talk a lot about West
- 34:32Speaker 3: Virginia's depth and trying to find defensive line depth. Oklahoma State,
- 34:35Speaker 3: 12 to 14 different guys. All right, let's jump into
- 34:38Speaker 3: a couple of the keys. I mentioned one. I think
- 34:40Speaker 3: that winning the line of scrimmage defensively for West Virginia
- 34:43Speaker 3: in that yards per contact is massive. West Virginia Hoppy
- 34:47Speaker 3: succeeded against Virginia in making the Cavaliers one-dimensional. They could
- 34:52Speaker 3: only run. Now, some of that was because of Pribula
- 34:55Speaker 3: and his limitations and their confidence in him. They didn't
- 34:58Speaker 3: feel great throwing it. This is a different deal. Oklahoma
- 35:00Speaker 3: State feels comfortable throwing passes. They feel comfortable running it.
- 35:04Speaker 3: But can you put them in a position where they
- 35:06Speaker 3: have to throw? Maybe then you can get some pressure
- 35:10Speaker 3: on them. So watch that line of scrimmage in the
- 35:11Speaker 3: yards before contact. Number is something we'll keep an eye on.
- 35:15Speaker 1: Number two.
- 35:16Speaker 3: I mentioned it earlier. Can West Virginia stay explosive, especially
- 35:20Speaker 3: through the air? And here's a couple numbers that jumped out.
- 35:23Speaker 3: West Virginia's offense from the passing side of things is
- 35:27Speaker 3: number two nationally in explosive pass rate. So they haven't
- 35:31Speaker 3: thrown it a ton. When they have, a big number
- 35:34Speaker 3: of those passes have been what is considered explosively. Add
- 35:38Speaker 3: in that West Virginia is third nationally in EPA per pass,
- 35:42Speaker 3: excuse me, and second in yards per attempt, meaning they're
- 35:45Speaker 3: pushing it down the field right there.
- 35:46Speaker 1: Matriculating it down the field.
- 35:48Speaker 3: So again, opponents coming into this know they're going to
- 35:51Speaker 3: get a heavy dose of run and know they've got
- 35:53Speaker 3: to deal with Cook and Hawkins. What I guarantee they
- 35:55Speaker 3: did not expect at this point in the season is
- 35:57Speaker 3: that they had to worry about an offense that's one
- 35:59Speaker 3: of the most explosive in the country through the air.
- 36:02Speaker 3: Keep that in mind. Can you keep it up? Here's
- 36:04Speaker 3: one of the wows. Oh. Here's one of the wows.
- 36:08Speaker 1: This is it.
- 36:09Speaker 3: Oklahoma State has given up explosives through the air. In fact,
- 36:13Speaker 3: nearly one in five pass plays by Cowboy opponents have
- 36:16Speaker 3: been explosive. One of the worst rates among Power Four teams.
- 36:21Speaker 3: Only six teams have given up a higher percentage of explosive.
- 36:25Speaker 3: Define explosive. 20 yards or more.
- 36:28Speaker 1: 15 yards or more. So 20% of the pass plays
- 36:29Speaker 1: they give up.
- 36:30Speaker 3: 15 or more.
- 36:30Speaker 1: 20% of the pass plays they get up go for
- 36:33Speaker 1: 15 or more yards.
- 36:35Speaker 3: Yeah. So again, if you're looking for what stats can hold,
- 36:39Speaker 3: what consistency carries through, because consistency can be good and bad, right?
- 36:43Speaker 3: Which of those holds true? Can West Virginia continue to
- 36:46Speaker 3: big play through the air, which as we know, loosens
- 36:49Speaker 3: the box and now lets Hawkins and Cook go to work?
- 36:52Speaker 3: Or is that a trend from Oklahoma State that they
- 36:55Speaker 3: will get corrected and fixed and not allow the explosives
- 36:59Speaker 3: this week. So I think that one, if I was
- 37:02Speaker 3: picking a key, third down conversion is obviously one because
- 37:04Speaker 3: both of these teams want to keep the chains moving,
- 37:06Speaker 3: but we know that's a big thing for Rich. I
- 37:08Speaker 3: think explosive pass plays are massively important to West Virginia's offense.
- 37:13Speaker 3: I think that has been the number one most critical
- 37:15Speaker 3: thing here. Hawkins has been elite, guys. That goes in
- 37:18Speaker 3: your obvious observations. The fact that, knock on wood, has
- 37:21Speaker 3: had no interceptions.
- 37:21Speaker 1: You don't need to tell him what needs to go
- 37:23Speaker 1: in his obvious. He knows what's obvious. You don't need
- 37:25Speaker 1: to tell him what's obvious. He knows that.
- 37:26Speaker 3: No interceptions so far this season. If that can continue
- 37:29Speaker 3: for another week, I think you feel pretty good about
- 37:31Speaker 3: where you are.
- 37:31Speaker 2: The Mestimakers thrown four?
- 37:33Speaker 1: Correct. Yeah.
- 37:35Speaker 2: Correct.
- 37:35Speaker 3: Okay, hold on. Can I give you one more? Sure.
- 37:37Speaker 1: Is this a wow?
- 37:38Speaker 3: This was pretty wow.
- 37:42Speaker 2: Ready? Yeah.
- 37:43Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 37:43Speaker 3: I'm in. West Virginia.
- 37:46Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 37:47Speaker 3: Has allowed pressure on 46% of its pass plays. That's
- 37:52Speaker 3: the highest rate of any Power Four team. So teams
- 37:56Speaker 3: have been getting pressure. Yet WVU ranks first among all
- 38:00Speaker 3: Power Four teams in EPA per pass. So teams have
- 38:05Speaker 3: been getting pressure, and West Virginia has absolutely been torching
- 38:09Speaker 3: that pressure. Again, the EPA number takes into explosives. You
- 38:13Speaker 3: get extra credit for explosive plays. That's why that comes along.
- 38:16Speaker 3: But that was a wow to me. Very rarely are
- 38:19Speaker 3: you last in that rate pressure and first in EPA. Normally,
- 38:24Speaker 3: if you're getting pressured, you're having trouble throwing the football.
- 38:27Speaker 3: West Virginia has thrived in that area. Oklahoma State ranks
- 38:32Speaker 3: only 44th out of 68 power four defenses in generating pressure.
- 38:37Speaker 3: So which of those holds true? Do they get home
- 38:39Speaker 3: to Hawkins and does that number start to flip? Are
- 38:42Speaker 3: you playing with fire if you're West Virginia allowing this pressure?
- 38:45Speaker 3: Or can you, one, pick it up and allow a
- 38:48Speaker 3: cleaner pocket for Hawkins? Or two, can you just continue
- 38:51Speaker 3: at the rate you have, which, all right, get some pressure,
- 38:53Speaker 3: but we're going to get it out more quickly and
- 38:55Speaker 3: hit you in big play offensively. So that was a
- 38:57Speaker 3: little bit of a wow number to me.
- 39:02Speaker 1: What also I find interesting is that these two staffs,
- 39:06Speaker 1: quote unquote, have gone against each other in the past. Now,
- 39:09Speaker 1: not Eric Morris, but Skyler Cassidy is their defensive coordinator.
- 39:13Speaker 1: He faced off against Rich and Rick Trickett when they
- 39:17Speaker 1: were at Jacksonville State and he was at Sam Houston.
- 39:21Speaker 1: And so that, you know, for both sides, right? So
- 39:23Speaker 1: Cassidy has seen what Rich wants to do. And West
- 39:27Speaker 1: Virginia has seen how Cassidy wants to develop. what Rich
- 39:30Speaker 1: does now a little bit of a difference right even
- 39:33Speaker 1: though Rich had a very talented quarterback at Jacksonville State
- 39:37Speaker 1: Michael Hawkins has a different level of elite speed which
- 39:40Speaker 1: obviously as we've seen changes a lot of what you
- 39:43Speaker 1: can do yes so that to me is an interesting
- 39:47Speaker 1: game of the cat and the mouse and Uh, you know,
- 39:50Speaker 1: the same could be said, you know, Zach Alley has
- 39:53Speaker 1: seen a lot of air. I shouldn't say air, right?
- 39:56Speaker 1: The new version V2 of what air rate is nowadays.
- 40:00Speaker 3: This is, this is another similarity. That's pretty wild. Both
- 40:03Speaker 3: coaches admittedly don't have super deep playbooks. They're not tricky.
- 40:07Speaker 3: They're just going to do what they do. So yeah,
- 40:09Speaker 3: they can, do you know what Rich is going to do?
- 40:10Speaker 2: Sure.
- 40:10Speaker 1: You do.
- 40:11Speaker 3: Can you, okay. Now you still got to stop cam
- 40:13Speaker 3: cook Hawkins and Epps and brain everybody else. So it's
- 40:15Speaker 3: one thing to know it's another to stop. The reverse
- 40:18Speaker 3: is also true, much like Dana was, where the offense
- 40:21Speaker 3: wasn't a deep playbook. In fact, they bragged about the
- 40:23Speaker 3: simplicity of it. It's the same with Eric Morris and
- 40:26Speaker 3: Oklahoma State. It's not overly tricky. It's the execution, both
- 40:30Speaker 3: for West Virginia and Oklahoma State, that gets you one
- 40:33Speaker 3: last number. And we talk about this a lot. It's
- 40:36Speaker 3: been a key to West Virginia's fast start. Oklahoma State's
- 40:39Speaker 3: been over to overcome it. The turnovers. Which team can
- 40:42Speaker 3: win this? Oklahoma State's averaging two plus per game, 102.
- 40:46Speaker 3: and 26 nationally, near the bottom of the national rankings
- 40:49Speaker 3: in turnover margin. West Virginia averages less than one per game,
- 40:54Speaker 3: 26 nationally. West Virginia needs to continue to be clean,
- 40:57Speaker 3: and if it is, this is a really hard defense
- 40:59Speaker 3: to contain. Or offense, excuse me.
- 41:01Speaker 1: You know how you force turnovers, Hoppy?
- 41:02Speaker 2: How do you force turnovers?
- 41:03Speaker 1: Pull a little more tape on.
- 41:05Speaker 2: Oh, that'll do it.
- 41:06Speaker 1: Pull a little more air into your helmet. Right, Brad?
- 41:08Speaker 1: That's how you do it?
- 41:09Speaker 3: By the way, I love that pregame speech. I love
- 41:12Speaker 3: when they show you that and he gets that cranked up.
- 41:13Speaker 1: You probably like that 7-on-7 line, too. They want to
- 41:17Speaker 1: go 7-on-7.
- 41:18Speaker 2: I wonder if the word for the week in Stillwater
- 41:20Speaker 2: was contained.
- 41:21Speaker 1: Nah, I don't think it was. I don't think it was.
- 41:23Speaker 1: It's a great matchup.
- 41:25Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
- 41:25Speaker 3: It's a fun matchup.
- 41:27Speaker 1: The league should be... I think this could do some...
- 41:30Speaker 1: I don't know what else is against it, but this
- 41:32Speaker 1: will be a good game.
- 41:33Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 41:33Speaker 1: This will be a good game.
- 41:34Speaker 3: I agree with you.
- 41:35Speaker 1: Three guys before the game. We've got textual healing coming up. Plus,
- 41:39Speaker 1: we're going to reveal... I mean, just a massive reveal,
- 41:42Speaker 1: kind of like Taylor Swift when she reveals her concert schedule.
- 41:45Speaker 1: We'll reveal our weekend schedule where we're going to be.
- 41:48Speaker 1: But three guys brought to us by Jan Dills, attorneys
- 41:51Speaker 1: at law. One of their clients, Alan, wrote us and
- 41:55Speaker 1: said this. I needed assistance with filing my VA claim
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- 42:11Speaker 1: I received what I deserved. Thank you, Jan Dills, attorneys
- 42:14Speaker 1: at law. So basically, he's saying, like, Jan Dills turned
- 42:18Speaker 1: out to be, like, rich. Like, play with your hairs
- 42:20Speaker 1: on fire. They just played with their hairs on fire,
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- 42:23Speaker 3: Went tempo.
- 42:24Speaker 1: And got Allen. Yeah, they went straight. They went jet tempo.
- 42:27Speaker 1: And also, I was thinking earlier, you know, Jan Dills,
- 42:30Speaker 1: attorneys at law, they're the Roberto Duran of law firms, right?
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- 42:35Speaker 2: No mas.
- 42:36Speaker 1: They don't take no mas for an answer.
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- 42:42Speaker 3: First appearance by Roberto Duran on the podcast in 741 episodes.
- 42:47Speaker 1: Manos de Pedros. Anyway, three guys is also brought to
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- 42:52Speaker 1: what it is, right? It's a weekend. It's a Saturday
- 42:55Speaker 1: in the fall. And you get triple the rewards points
- 42:59Speaker 1: if you use your GoMart app this weekend. So if
- 43:03Speaker 1: you're coming into the game or you're just getting your
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- 43:12Speaker 1: which is a heck of a deal, Brad.
- 43:14Speaker 3: I'm limping to the finish line again.
- 43:16Speaker 1: He's going in Saturday morning. He's going to get, like,
- 43:19Speaker 1: lots of gas. He's going to get lots of gas,
- 43:21Speaker 1: lots of snacks, too, because it doesn't kick off until 7.
- 43:22Speaker 3: My gas gauge is bringing pressure on me. I'm going
- 43:25Speaker 3: to try to hit him with a Hawkins big play
- 43:27Speaker 3: seamer out there. Just roll right in Saturday morning there
- 43:30Speaker 3: and get that filled.
- 43:31Speaker 2: By the way, we're up against a lot.
- 43:33Speaker 1: I'm sure.
- 43:34Speaker 2: Saturday night, South Carolina at Alabama, Texas A & M
- 43:36Speaker 2: at LSU, Oregon and USC, Missouri, Mississippi State. So there's
- 43:42Speaker 2: a lot going on Saturday night.
- 43:43Speaker 1: A & M and LSU, two teams trying to bounce
- 43:46Speaker 1: back from defeats. That'll be an important day.
- 43:48Speaker 3: Yeah, South Carolina can't find a win. I don't know
- 43:50Speaker 3: that people watch that, do they?
- 43:51Speaker 1: No, that's Alabama, though. That doesn't matter. Alabama's not an
- 43:54Speaker 1: Alabama list. No role. You ask.
- 43:58Speaker 2: I'm just telling you.
- 44:00Speaker 1: Listen, don't blame the messenger. I mean, he was just
- 44:01Speaker 1: trying to do his job. He's had a busy week.
- 44:04Speaker 1: He's had a busy week. He went down there to
- 44:06Speaker 1: Shepherd College, and he had a slide presentation. Shepherd University.
- 44:09Speaker 1: Shepherd University, and he did an 84-slide presentation. I said,
- 44:13Speaker 1: you're going to do what? 84 slides.
- 44:15Speaker 2: Huh.
- 44:16Speaker 1: Went off great.
- 44:17Speaker 3: A lot of retired folks do that, do they?
- 44:19Speaker 1: 84 slides. 84 slides. Well, he found that AI can
- 44:22Speaker 1: make slides for you, so he couldn't help himself.
- 44:24Speaker 2: You know what happened? It was sort of like, you
- 44:27Speaker 2: ever started something and it just takes.
- 44:28Speaker 1: On the life of its own?
- 44:30Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 44:30Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I have. I was using.
- 44:32Speaker 2: AI to create slides, and I thought, oh, this is cool.
- 44:34Speaker 2: Before I knew it, I had 84 slides.
- 44:36Speaker 1: 84 slides.
- 44:37Speaker 2: Got it done in 40 minutes.
- 44:38Speaker 1: Yeah. World record. And as soon as they wake those
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- 45:38Speaker 1: slash WVU. outpatient rehab or call 855-WVU-CARE. Before we get
- 45:45Speaker 1: into the healing texts and stuff, a couple of things. One,
- 45:50Speaker 1: as we record, so it'll be over by the time
- 45:54Speaker 1: you hear this, a huge day for WVU athletics in
- 45:59Speaker 1: the courtroom of law because this is the day that
- 46:02Speaker 1: West Virginia's Brennan Laureant and Javen Buchanan We'll hopefully hear
- 46:09Speaker 1: good word regarding their potential eligibility for the coming season.
- 46:13Speaker 1: It is a massive decision involving the roster for West Virginia.
- 46:17Speaker 1: You get these two young men eligible in this world
- 46:23Speaker 1: that we're living in, and it will make a significant
- 46:26Speaker 1: difference to the roster at one particular position for West Virginia. Yesterday,
- 46:32Speaker 1: you saw a court ruling involving Jacory Thomas, the transfer
- 46:35Speaker 1: from Georgia, and so He now has been green-lighted. And obviously,
- 46:39Speaker 1: it'll be a bit before he gets into the fold
- 46:41Speaker 1: for the Mountaineers. But you'll have him in the back
- 46:44Speaker 1: half of that defense as you get into the month
- 46:47Speaker 1: of October. So huge news. You'll hear about that, obviously,
- 46:51Speaker 1: in the next day.
- 46:54Speaker 3: You know, one bit of bad news out of that
- 46:56Speaker 3: Indiana court case. Taman Lipsy, Iowa State three-time all-conference performer,
- 47:00Speaker 3: was also included. Looks like he's returning to Iowa State
- 47:04Speaker 3: for a fifth year, given they had An injury to
- 47:06Speaker 3: Killian Torre, one of their great young players. It's going
- 47:08Speaker 3: to keep him out for a couple of months. They're
- 47:10Speaker 3: getting Lipsy in there to provide some depth, which is
- 47:12Speaker 3: a great add for Iowa State, not.
- 47:13Speaker 1: For the rest of the league. He's one of their
- 47:15Speaker 1: legendary guys. Texter, the line on the game is like one,
- 47:20Speaker 1: one and a half. The Texter says the books have
- 47:22Speaker 1: not adjusted to account for hard edge. Let's go, Mountaineer.
- 47:26Speaker 3: It's flipped significantly. Oklahoma State was a two and a
- 47:28Speaker 3: half point favorite just a week ago before the Virginia game.
- 47:31Speaker 3: That flipped it back over to the West Virginia side.
- 47:33Speaker 3: Over under yesterday, sitting about 60.
- 47:35Speaker 2: And a half.
- 47:36Speaker 1: Timothy in Barbersville, unless I missed one when checking old schedules,
- 47:40Speaker 1: last time West Virginia was 3-0 or better and hosted
- 47:44Speaker 1: a night game in Morgantown that we won was all
- 47:47Speaker 1: the way back 1996, beat Maryland 13-0. Could that be
- 47:52Speaker 1: 36 years ago?
- 47:54Speaker 2: I think, well, qualifying at the start. 3-0 start.
- 47:56Speaker 1: 3-0 plus a night. Yeah.
- 47:56Speaker 2: Texter, Bud in Lexington.
- 48:04Speaker 1: The Athletic, he lets us know, has WV ranked 23rd
- 48:07Speaker 1: all the way up from 65. Yeah, it's interesting.
- 48:10Speaker 3: And there's a bunch of folks out there that do
- 48:12Speaker 3: those rankings from what has happened in 2026, which is
- 48:16Speaker 3: a really novel concept that you would do this season's
- 48:19Speaker 3: rankings based off what you've done this season. It's something new.
- 48:23Speaker 3: Wait a minute.
- 48:24Speaker 2: Is that more accurate than before games were played?
- 48:26Speaker 3: It is absolutely groundbreaking that you would base it on
- 48:29Speaker 3: the games that have actually been played rather than what happened.
- 48:32Speaker 3: It's amazing. But anyway, West Virginia, yeah, regarded among most
- 48:36Speaker 3: top 25, top 20, top 15 in some.
- 48:38Speaker 2: And Rich Rod was asked about that. He gave it
- 48:40Speaker 2: a good old-fashioned pshaw. I mean, just.
- 48:43Speaker 1: What did he do?
- 48:44Speaker 2: Well, I say he didn't actually say pshaw, but I mean,
- 48:47Speaker 2: just like... Don't worry about that yet. I mean, we can.
- 48:51Speaker 1: No, I totally agree. It's fun to keep track of it,
- 48:52Speaker 1: but just... My thought on that is this. There is
- 48:54Speaker 1: a poll. It's called the Big 12 Conference Standings. That's
- 48:58Speaker 1: your poll. Win your games, and don't worry about anything else.
- 49:02Speaker 1: Just win your poll in your league, and you're going up.
- 49:05Speaker 1: Don't worry about it.
- 49:05Speaker 2: In fact, in this point, it probably would hurt you
- 49:07Speaker 2: because it's a motivational point for the other team. Like, oh,
- 49:10Speaker 2: you're playing a ranked team.
- 49:11Speaker 1: Sure. This was interesting. A gentleman sent us the cumulative
- 49:15Speaker 1: stats for West Virginia quarterbacks of the past through three games. Oh.
- 49:20Speaker 1: And so just to kind of give you a little bit,
- 49:22Speaker 1: Will Greer after three games was 1,120 passing yards, 13 TDs,
- 49:25Speaker 1: three interceptions. Geno Smith after three was 1,130 yards, 13 TDs,
- 49:27Speaker 1: identical to Greer as far as the TDs, and no interceptions.
- 49:39Speaker 1: And then he had Skylar Howard's numbers, and he had
- 49:43Speaker 1: Pat's numbers as well. And Michael Hawkins fits kind of
- 49:46Speaker 1: into the middle of all that, but 799 pass yards,
- 49:50Speaker 1: 11 touchdowns, zero interceptions. So he's right there with superb
- 49:55Speaker 1: starts by Will Greer, Pat White, Geno Smith, and Skylar Howard.
- 50:02Speaker 2: Pretty good company.
- 50:02Speaker 1: Yeah, that is good company. This was kind of interesting.
- 50:06Speaker 1: Josh from Heiko. I'm a first-time texter. Never thought I'd
- 50:10Speaker 1: send you guys a text, but I've got to get
- 50:12Speaker 1: something off my chest. I want to sincerely apologize to Mr.
- 50:16Speaker 1: Zach Alley. I consider myself a glass-half-full fan, always trying
- 50:20Speaker 1: to find positives when the Mountaineers let me down. But
- 50:23Speaker 1: after the first Virginia possession lost my mind, I thought,
- 50:28Speaker 1: here we go again with receivers running open down the field,
- 50:31Speaker 1: running backs running through holes the size of Lou Wendell
- 50:34Speaker 1: pontoon crafts. You wouldn't believe what I did next. I
- 50:38Speaker 1: made the classic Facebook post about him. And boy, did
- 50:41Speaker 1: I let him have it. So he just trashed them.
- 50:45Speaker 3: Nobody does that.
- 50:46Speaker 1: Not anymore. But then he said, then it happened. Everything changed.
- 50:49Speaker 1: Coach Alley had dudes flying around in perfect position to
- 50:52Speaker 1: make plays. I really think it was one of the
- 50:54Speaker 1: best defensive games I've seen called all the time. I
- 50:56Speaker 1: thought maybe we should just simplify in defense instead of
- 50:59Speaker 1: having so much going on. Moral of the story, what
- 51:02Speaker 1: the hell do I know? All in capital letters. I'm sorry, Zach.
- 51:05Speaker 1: I never doubted you. You guys are awesome. And I
- 51:08Speaker 1: can't wait for the next episode.
- 51:09Speaker 2: Hey, Tony, when I gave the presentation at Sheppard University.
- 51:12Speaker 1: The 84 slides, yeah.
- 51:13Speaker 2: The 84 slides. One of the slides was about this.
- 51:16Speaker 2: What can we do to kind of lower the temperature?
- 51:19Speaker 2: And that is do not react immediately emotionally to something
- 51:23Speaker 2: that happens. And that sounds obvious.
- 51:26Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes sense. But, I mean, seriously.
- 51:28Speaker 2: Because just wait. Because with social media, you can react
- 51:32Speaker 2: to me like, I tell you, son of a. Just
- 51:35Speaker 2: hang on a second. Just wait. Just wait and see
- 51:37Speaker 2: how you feel and gather a little more information before you,
- 51:41Speaker 2: and then respond.
- 51:42Speaker 3: That doesn't happen a lot in sports. Maybe in life,
- 51:44Speaker 3: but it doesn't happen.
- 51:45Speaker 1: A lot in sports.
- 51:47Speaker 3: It's an emotional time.
- 51:48Speaker 1: Games are emotional. That happens.
- 51:50Speaker 2: Yeah. But you get my point.
- 51:52Speaker 3: Close the Facebook app, maybe.
- 51:54Speaker 1: Next texter identifies himself as Adam from Adamston. I don't
- 51:58Speaker 1: think that's his real name. He says he's a listener
- 52:00Speaker 1: of 740 out of 740 episodes. You guys have mentioned
- 52:05Speaker 1: a few times about dragging them into the deep end.
- 52:07Speaker 1: Do we assume that Wren knew what he was doing
- 52:09Speaker 1: with UVA neutral site game by setting this neutral up?
- 52:13Speaker 1: He literally took the entire program into the deep end,
- 52:17Speaker 1: and they proved that they could not swim. Lack of
- 52:19Speaker 1: fan support. I think Wren moved the game because he
- 52:22Speaker 1: made $ 2 million and didn't go to East Carolina. I
- 52:26Speaker 1: think that was the impetus.
- 52:27Speaker 2: That was a good— Things worked out well on that trip.
- 52:30Speaker 1: Don't know if Ren had any swimming thoughts.
- 52:32Speaker 2: Well, that's our second home field now.
- 52:34Speaker 1: Yes. Hello, Tony, please yell this like the old days. No.
- 52:41Speaker 1: He said olden days. You want me to do it?
- 52:44Speaker 3: Olden?
- 52:44Speaker 1: I guess if he has. I'll do it. On the
- 52:47Speaker 1: olden days. All right, here we go.
- 52:48Speaker 2: Go ahead.
- 52:49Speaker 1: Where is this guy?
- 52:50Speaker 2: Go ahead.
- 52:51Speaker 1: Mitch from Buchanan.
- 52:52Speaker 2: Hello!
- 52:54Speaker 1: It's been a minute since I've texted in. I'm bringing
- 52:56Speaker 1: the wife and kids up this weekend for the Okie
- 52:58Speaker 1: Light Game, thinking about swinging by the tailgate Saturday. Any
- 53:02Speaker 1: chance any of you three stooges, I mean fellas, will
- 53:05Speaker 1: be there? I know you all have some work to do,
- 53:07Speaker 1: so I doubt it, but I figured I'd ask also,
- 53:09Speaker 1: how can I sell it to my wife and daughters
- 53:12Speaker 1: that it is worth our time to swing by? What
- 53:14Speaker 1: would your elevator pitch be? I'll be sure to let
- 53:17Speaker 1: them listen to your response. All right. Thanks, Mitch. You
- 53:19Speaker 1: can take care of that for you very well. So
- 53:22Speaker 1: the tailgate, First off, let me just do this really quick.
- 53:26Speaker 1: Thursday night, which is tonight, if you're listening and it's
- 53:29Speaker 1: not Thursday, then don't worry about it. But we're at
- 53:32Speaker 1: Buffalo Wild Wings Suncrest Town Center from 6 until 7.30
- 53:35Speaker 1: with our live show. Going to have a lot of fun.
- 53:37Speaker 1: Jen Greeny, Mountaineer volleyball coach, is going to be there.
- 53:39Speaker 1: We're going to do something about spiking the ball inside
- 53:42Speaker 1: of a Nerf thing or something like that. So we
- 53:44Speaker 1: got that going for us.
- 53:45Speaker 3: Free admission.
- 53:46Speaker 1: Which is kind of nice. Yeah, just come in there.
- 53:48Speaker 1: Come on over. Also, we've got the Hoppies Trivia.
- 53:54Speaker 2: Um and just just i mean fun fun just like
- 53:57Speaker 2: fun camaraderie.
- 53:59Speaker 3: As you've said before it starts the weekend come enjoy
- 54:01Speaker 3: it with your fans that's very about the three and
- 54:04Speaker 3: a star be giddy about the big game come enjoy
- 54:06Speaker 3: it with us.
- 54:07Speaker 1: Okay so why should you go to the food court
- 54:09Speaker 1: so we're there four until ten friday night it's just
- 54:13Speaker 1: it's a super relaxed chilled out non-hostile environment it's kind
- 54:18Speaker 1: of like Everyone's really nice. Everybody's chill. There's sweet treats.
- 54:23Speaker 1: There's barbecue. There's Connection 304 beer. If you want to
- 54:27Speaker 1: have one of those, you could certainly do that, drink responsibly.
- 54:30Speaker 1: And it's just like a chilled-out night. A homeless day
- 54:33Speaker 1: will probably put those little lines of lights up, and
- 54:38Speaker 1: there's live music.
- 54:41Speaker 3: You're talking about Friday, which we were there Friday, but
- 54:43Speaker 3: he's asking about Saturday.
- 54:44Speaker 1: It's the same thing on Saturday.
- 54:45Speaker 3: He's swinging by Saturday.
- 54:46Speaker 1: Wouldn't you agree it's the same thing on Saturday? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Right?
- 54:51Speaker 2: Okay.
- 54:51Speaker 1: What time do you have.
- 54:53Speaker 3: To hang out with Mountaineer fans?
- 54:54Speaker 2: What time are we going Saturday?
- 54:55Speaker 1: I don't know, TBD. Special guests. But hold on real quick.
- 54:59Speaker 1: He's asking if we'll be there.
- 55:00Speaker 3: Yes, at different points throughout the weekend we'll all be there.
- 55:02Speaker 1: I'll be there earlier because obviously I've got to go,
- 55:04Speaker 1: but I'll be there in the morning-ish. What time do
- 55:06Speaker 1: we open? Nine, he said.
- 55:08Speaker 2: I don't know that yet.
- 55:08Speaker 3: It's been nine on the noon games.
- 55:10Speaker 2: Ten-ish.
- 55:10Speaker 1: I'll be there at 10, 11. Anyway.
- 55:12Speaker 3: Poppy and I are usually there most of the time.
- 55:14Speaker 3: Most of the time on Saturday.
- 55:15Speaker 2: I have a couple other commitments, but I'll... Yeah, no
- 55:18Speaker 2: one cares.
- 55:19Speaker 1: Anyway, special guest at the food court tomorrow.
- 55:22Speaker 3: Don't cut him off. He specifically said, will you be
- 55:24Speaker 3: there Saturday?
- 55:25Speaker 1: He's asking. We got a big slide presentation. You got
- 55:27Speaker 1: to go down there at the library and do it.
- 55:29Speaker 1: But let me just say this. McKenna Hope is going
- 55:32Speaker 1: to be performer, singer-songwriter from St. Albans. Her dad's a
- 55:36Speaker 1: P1 listener. Roots in classic country. She started performing on
- 55:39Speaker 1: stage at age eight. Cites Patsy Cline, Dolly Parton, Reba McEntire,
- 55:43Speaker 1: Loretta Lynn, among her influences. She's performed along artists including
- 55:49Speaker 1: Colt Ford, John Lilly, Hello June, Dan Shea Parmelee. So
- 55:54Speaker 1: she's really good. And then also, so she'll be performing.
- 55:58Speaker 1: We'll have live music. And also, put this note on
- 56:01Speaker 1: your calendar. 7 of October. Not next week, the week after.
- 56:06Speaker 1: We're doing this again this year. Moving Mountains Live. in
- 56:09Speaker 1: conjunction with the United Way to raise money. The folks
- 56:13Speaker 1: from Clear Mountain Bank, the folks from WV Medicine will
- 56:16Speaker 1: have student athletes there. WV student athletes were doing it
- 56:20Speaker 1: at the football stadium at Touchdown Terrace. For information, scan
- 56:25Speaker 1: the code that we've got on there now, and it
- 56:27Speaker 1: goes to the United Way. We had a ton of fun.
- 56:29Speaker 1: That's where we sold that pig last year. I auctioned
- 56:32Speaker 1: off that pig. It was like $ 2 million or something
- 56:34Speaker 1: we got for the pig?
- 56:35Speaker 2: Not quite, but it was a little under that. A
- 56:37Speaker 2: little under that, but.
- 56:38Speaker 1: So, hey, listen, Mitch, come on over. Your wife and
- 56:43Speaker 1: kid will like it. I'm just saying. Anyway, we're discussing
- 56:48Speaker 1: uniforms at work today. My coworker wanted to know if
- 56:51Speaker 1: we still even have gold helmets. Three of us do.
- 56:53Speaker 1: Friendly wager. Each one predicting the uniform combos and scores
- 56:56Speaker 1: the game. Just seeking. Do we have gold? Yeah, we
- 56:57Speaker 1: got gold helmets, right? Do we? Right? I don't know.
- 57:01Speaker 3: I haven't seen them yet.
- 57:02Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 57:02Speaker 3: This year?
- 57:04Speaker 1: I don't care. Hey guys, always a West Virginia connection.
- 57:08Speaker 1: This is good. I was at my son's hockey game
- 57:10Speaker 1: last night and I started talking to some parents. They
- 57:13Speaker 1: noticed my WVU hat and mentioned they had a friend
- 57:17Speaker 1: who played there. Turns out the mom's best friend is
- 57:21Speaker 1: the mom of none other than Mountaineer great NFLer Keith Tandy.
- 57:26Speaker 1: Had a great conversation. They've got nothing but respect for
- 57:29Speaker 1: the university and the team. Unfortunately, I won't make the
- 57:32Speaker 1: game this week, but I'll be watching from SEC country
- 57:35Speaker 1: down in Tennessee. Let's take care of the pokes. Ben
- 57:37Speaker 1: from Clarksville. Texter. Hello. Andy from Columbus, Ohio.
- 57:42Speaker 3: 3-0.
- 57:43Speaker 1: How about it? Here's a picture that made the Duke's
- 57:45Speaker 1: Mayo page of me, White Hat, and my sister to
- 57:48Speaker 1: my left at the game. I'll tell you what. They
- 57:50Speaker 1: are fired up. Yeah.
- 57:52Speaker 2: That was excellent there.
- 57:53Speaker 1: He asks, is this the biggest home game since Oklahoma
- 57:56Speaker 1: in 2018? Oh, is it? I don't know.
- 58:00Speaker 3: Pitt was pretty big last year.
- 58:01Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 58:02Speaker 3: I mean, you've had some big games. The fact that
- 58:03Speaker 3: you're 3-0 is adding to the excitement here. So I
- 58:06Speaker 3: know why people are saying OU 2018. But there's some
- 58:09Speaker 3: big ones.
- 58:09Speaker 1: Kevin from Kingwood. I recently saw the Oklahoma State has
- 58:12Speaker 1: the oldest average roster of all Big 12 schools. West
- 58:14Speaker 1: Virginia has the youngest. Do you think this comes into
- 58:17Speaker 1: play with late game scenarios?
- 58:19Speaker 3: No, because I saw that chart, too. And the difference
- 58:21Speaker 3: between 1 and 16 is less than a full year.
- 58:25Speaker 1: OK.
- 58:25Speaker 3: So it's like half a year. So no, I don't
- 58:28Speaker 3: think it does.
- 58:29Speaker 1: This was interesting. DJ in Monroe County, I heard someone
- 58:32Speaker 1: after the game Saturday saying they were checking the live
- 58:35Speaker 1: win probability during the game, to which I thought, I
- 58:39Speaker 1: know what that means, but what are we even doing anymore?
- 58:43Speaker 1: I place myself back to Rich Rod's first campaign here
- 58:46Speaker 1: at WVU. As a 10-year-old boy, I could just watch
- 58:50Speaker 1: the game with my grandpa glued to the TV while
- 58:52Speaker 1: also listening to the velvety Tony. We didn't care about
- 58:56Speaker 1: live win probability. We just wanted to watch, soak in
- 58:59Speaker 1: every aspect of the game. Today, you can place a
- 59:02Speaker 1: bet on what condiment will be chosen the most concession
- 59:06Speaker 1: stands to put on the hot dogs. Hey, should I
- 59:08Speaker 1: bet the over-under on the catch-up? We'll be right back.
- 59:28Speaker 1: but I have certainty of 100% that I will just
- 59:31Speaker 1: enjoy watching the game. There's DJ in Monroe County. And
- 59:36Speaker 1: last one here.
- 59:37Speaker 3: DJ's like Tony. He's trying to watch shame people. I
- 59:40Speaker 3: kind of like that lie, probability lie. I like all
- 59:43Speaker 3: those numbers.
- 59:44Speaker 2: You know, you check that because you're, again, anxiety riddled,
- 59:50Speaker 2: and you think, Okay, I feel good now because it
- 59:53Speaker 2: was a 95%. Now, Rich does not feel the same.
- 59:56Speaker 1: I don't think Rich buys much.
- 59:57Speaker 3: The whole NC State didn't like its live game probably
- 1:00:01Speaker 3: last week. 99.9 before the snap of that line.
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: Is that what it was? 0.9999999.
- 1:00:05Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't just a 0.9. You could have run
- 1:00:08Speaker 3: that string all the way out.
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: It had to be because it was only a one-tenth
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: of 1% chance that what would happen happened.
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: Last two. Joe in Ohio has a problem, and it's
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: Ben Cutter's mom's fault.
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: What? Now, come on. Jan is wonderful.
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: Guys, I'm addicted to Cutter's cookies. Is there some sort
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: of support group I can join? Well, we're sold out again.
- 1:00:33Speaker 3: Jan sold them out again.
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: All the cream oatmeal. She's going to be there. She's
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: going to be there at the tailgate. She'll be there
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: Friday for sure. She sold them all out. Baker's dozen
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: of the chocolate chips, the oatmeal pies, cream pies, just unbelievable.
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: She's become a. Like a celebrity.
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: She is. She is. And so she'll be there. And
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: then the last thing was, remember Logan in Greenbrier County? Now,
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: you guys know Logan. Know Logan very well.
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: He'd gone AWOL on us.
- 1:00:58Speaker 3: Haven't seen him for a while.
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: He texted and said everything's good. OK, good. He thinks
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: we'll win here this week, but he's OK.
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: Excellent.
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: And I wrote back to him. I said, hell, we've
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: been worried death about you. Are you OK or not?
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: I mean.
- 1:01:10Speaker 3: Glad to hear that, Logan.
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: See you soon.
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: So we're back to Sunday, right?
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: Yeah, what time?
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: Sunday morning. Sunday morning. Sunday morning coming down by Johnny Cash. Yeah,
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: Sunday morning. So we'll have our next episode out for
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: you by 1 o'clock on Sunday, and we'll talk all
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: about what transpires inside Milan Pushkar Stadium on Saturday night.
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: It's got the chance to be a dandy. All right,
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- 1:02:23Speaker 1: including you. Special thanks to producer Jake. We're done. We're out.
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: Talk to you again. Go to the food court. Go
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: to BW3. Come visit with us. We'll get your picture made.
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: Hoppy will have a slide presentation he'll be delivering at
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: the food court. 99 slides. It'll be great. This is
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: a football, and this is how you throw it.
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: Here's our summer vacation.