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#HURDLEMOMENT: A Nutritionist On Safe Strategies To Combat Overeating & The Importance Of Grace · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, What's going on? Emily A body here. You
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Speaker 1: are listening to another installment of Hurdle Moment from Hurdle,
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Speaker 1: a wellness focused podcast where connect with everyone from your
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Speaker 1: favorite athletes to top experts and industry CEOs about their
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Speaker 1: highest hies, toughest moments, and everything in between. We all
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Speaker 1: go through hurdles in life, and my goal through these
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Speaker 1: discussions is to empower you to better navigate yours and
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Speaker 1: move with intention so that you can stride towards your
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Speaker 1: own big potential and of course have some fun along
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Speaker 1: the way. For today's episode, I am chatting with certified nutritionist,
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Speaker 1: chef and longevity wellness expert Serena Poon and I strategically
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Speaker 1: set up this interview for the Tuesday after I returned
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Speaker 1: from a gluttonous trip because today's topic is all about
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Speaker 1: how to take care of your body after let's call
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Speaker 1: it a glutenous weekend experience.
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Speaker 2: What have you now?
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Speaker 1: Before I continue, I want to make sure that I
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Speaker 1: say this life is for enjoying. You know me, I'm
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Speaker 1: not about restriction, but I am all about fueling our
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Speaker 1: bodies with good for us foods, supplements, nutrition. You get
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Speaker 1: the idea and there are going to be times where
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Speaker 1: maybe you overdo it a little bit and you feel
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Speaker 1: less than stellar in your body. I will be the
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Speaker 1: first person to tell you that this happens to me.
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Speaker 1: I won't say on the regular, but it happens to me,
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Speaker 1: it happens to us all. And so for today's conversation,
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Speaker 1: Serena and I are talking about what to do when
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Speaker 1: you feel like you've overdone it. Of course, our conversation
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Speaker 1: starts by praising the importance of grace, knowing that there
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Speaker 1: is a time in a place, and that life is
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Speaker 1: for celebrating and living. And then Serena does give some
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Speaker 1: input into what you should be keeping in mind after
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Speaker 1: this kind of glutinous exchange. So this conversation is not
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Speaker 1: focused on specific foods and things. I mean, we talk
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Speaker 1: about the benefits of greens and hydration, but really it's
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Speaker 1: about best practices that you can integrate into your routine
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Speaker 1: to help you feel better in your body, ranging from
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Speaker 1: movement to breathwork, and how those practices help remove toxins
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Speaker 1: from the body. Plus, Serena also gives us the lowdown
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Speaker 1: on why we might want to investigate adding sea moss
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Speaker 1: into our diet. Seriously, and we also talk about the
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Speaker 1: concept of fasting and what that can and cannot do
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Speaker 1: for the body. Lots of really interesting takeaways in this one,
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Speaker 1: So thank you so much to Serena for her time.
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Speaker 1: I know I myself am inspired to as I finish
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Speaker 1: let's get to it. Let's get to hurdling. Today, I
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Speaker 1: am sitting down with nutritionist Serena Poon.
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Speaker 2: How are you doing today?
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Speaker 3: I'm great, Terry. Thank you for having me of course.
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Speaker 1: Honestly, some of the most listened to episodes of the
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Speaker 1: show are with nutritionists, so I'm always excited when I
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Speaker 1: have an opportunity to connect with someone with such vast
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Speaker 1: experience as you. So let's kick off by talking a
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Speaker 1: little bit about that.
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Speaker 2: What got you in to the area of New Jrishead.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so thank you again so much for having me.
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Speaker 3: My background really kind of came from my parents' experience
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Speaker 3: with health. So they both had cancer very young. My
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Speaker 3: daddy was diagnosed with cancer in his forties and it
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Speaker 3: was liver cancer, so he actually passed when he was
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Speaker 3: forty eight, and two months after he passed, my mom
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Speaker 3: I was diagnosed with a rare form of bavarian cancer.
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Speaker 3: She was forty five. So, you know, it was obviously
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Speaker 3: traditional medicine. There was chemo radiation all that, but we're Chinese,
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Speaker 3: so there was also Chinese medicine. And then I started
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Speaker 3: to look into food and plants and herbs and things
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Speaker 3: outside of what the doctors were telling us, because first
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Speaker 3: of all, we were foodies. My dad loved to eat,
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Speaker 3: and I feel that there's so much there's food. We
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Speaker 3: talk about how food is medicine, food is also love,
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Speaker 3: and there's a healing in that as well, and they
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Speaker 3: weren't receiving that, you know, when they were sick and
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Speaker 3: during treatment. So I started diving into that then looking
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Speaker 3: at different ways, looking at nutrition. How could I help
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Speaker 3: support them or at least at the minimum, minimize their symptoms.
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Speaker 3: And after college, where I actually study nutrition secondary to
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Speaker 3: my major of political science, I went to culinary school.
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Speaker 3: I studied at lacrod On Blue and I really wanted
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Speaker 3: to understand how I could use the culinary arts to
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Speaker 3: make food as medicine beautiful and appealing to people. So
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Speaker 3: that's really how I got started, and just I have
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Speaker 3: such a thirst for learning and education, so I just
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Speaker 3: started diving into there's holistic nutrition, arobatic and more into
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Speaker 3: Chinese medicine and food and I still learned to this day.
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Speaker 3: But that's sort of how I started got my certifications,
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Speaker 3: and at the time, because I was a classically trained chef,
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Speaker 3: I was sort of teaching nutrition through the food I
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Speaker 3: was making and working with clients one and one that way.
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Speaker 3: And then I had my own health journey, had several surgeries,
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Speaker 3: kind of put myself at the bottom of my self
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Speaker 3: careless and because of that I had some illness. So
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Speaker 3: in my own journey, I actually had some experiences where
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Speaker 3: I couldn't cook. After one of my surgeries, I was
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Speaker 3: unable to use the upper left side of my body
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Speaker 3: for a while. So I really fully dived into nutrition
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Speaker 3: and just using and opening up that vertical of my
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Speaker 3: business and just taking all the knowledge that I had
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Speaker 3: that I was putting into food and consulting and teaching
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Speaker 3: people from that point forward. And it's sort of from
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Speaker 3: there that I birthed my method of culinary alchemy, which
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Speaker 3: is sort of this integrative, functional way of taking nutrition
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Speaker 3: from all different aspects but also embodying your mind and
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Speaker 3: your energy body. So it's very physical, your physiological, your
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Speaker 3: emotional body, your soul body, your energy body, and all
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Speaker 3: of that becomes sort of your nutrition protocol. And that's
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Speaker 3: where it's starting.
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Speaker 1: And that's where it started. Well, thank you for sharing that.
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Speaker 1: I would be really curious to know a little bit
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Speaker 1: about how you personally used food as medicine to remediate
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Speaker 1: some of the health issues that you were experiencing.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so I'm not in my forties. Throughout every
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Speaker 3: period of your life, your body has different challenges, you know,
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Speaker 3: and when I was younger in my twenties, and I
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Speaker 3: was kind of going through the stress of being a
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Speaker 3: caretaker and not taking care of myself. I had a
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Speaker 3: lot of gut issues, you know, I had a lot
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Speaker 3: of gut issues. I found my digestive issues. So everything
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Speaker 3: that I would say everyone at some point may experience,
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Speaker 3: especially women, you know, whether you have bloating or you're
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Speaker 3: not regular, or it's uncomfortable, and really sort of diving
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Speaker 3: into the microbiome and understanding the gut and how we
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Speaker 3: can support that with probiotics. And I have a few
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Speaker 3: other things now that I can share to your audists
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Speaker 3: that they may not have heard of that really also
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Speaker 3: help you your gut health. That also affects your immunity,
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Speaker 3: because your microbiome is quarter your immunity. So then I
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Speaker 3: found myself getting sick, you know, every winter, especially after
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Speaker 3: the holidays, when I was working so hard as a
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Speaker 3: private chef, and you know, you go super hard, you
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Speaker 3: burn your adrenals, and then you get sick, you know,
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Speaker 3: because you're sort of running on adrenaline. So then I
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Speaker 3: had to sort of learn how to really support my
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Speaker 3: body by mitigating inflammation, really supporting the adrenals and keeping
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Speaker 3: my immune system strong. One of the primary health issues
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Speaker 3: that I had that kind of spanned like eight years
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Speaker 3: and eight surgeries, was that I contracted MRSA Mrsay, which
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Speaker 3: is a deadly said staff infection after one of my surgeries.
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Speaker 3: So that sort of kind of keeps me at a
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Speaker 3: baseline where I always have to be very mindful of
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Speaker 3: inflammation of keeping my immune system strong. So that was
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Speaker 3: sort of that period of life and moving forward, and
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Speaker 3: then now that I'm a little bit older, it's there's
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Speaker 3: such a focus on female health, you know, my hormonal health,
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Speaker 3: and a lot of my focuses on stress management, and
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Speaker 3: then the things that we can put into our bodies
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Speaker 3: through food obviously nutrition and also supplements that can help
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Speaker 3: support that.
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Speaker 1: What I'd love to really dial in on here is
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Speaker 1: gut health, because I do think that this will segue
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Speaker 1: us into our conversations today, which is kind of talking
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Speaker 1: about out uh, detoxing or good things that you can
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Speaker 1: do for your body maybe after you feel as though
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Speaker 1: you've gone a little bit off the rails. So before
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Speaker 1: we get there, let's talk a little bit about gut health.
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Speaker 1: You said you may have some insight into things we
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Speaker 1: don't know about when it comes to taking care of
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Speaker 1: our guts.
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Speaker 2: So lead me into that. What are we talking about here?
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Speaker 3: So you know, everyone knows about probiotics. You know, there's probiotics,
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Speaker 3: which is that's the good, the good bacteria, right, the
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Speaker 3: friendly bacteria that we want in our gut. And then
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Speaker 3: of course the probiotics, which is the food. It's the
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Speaker 3: food for the probiotics. With the probiotics nimble on, and
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Speaker 3: then you also have like post biotics, and so all
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Speaker 3: of this is you know, we're starting to learn more
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Speaker 3: and more about bacteria. There's so many different strains and
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Speaker 3: how it helps support our system. So I would say
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Speaker 3: that most of us, by the time we're a young adult,
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Speaker 3: has probably taken a cycle of antibiotics at some point,
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Speaker 3: and that can really recab it on your gut microbiome
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Speaker 3: because it kind of kills all of our bacteria, so
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Speaker 3: the good and the bad. And if you and maybe
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Speaker 3: there are some people out there that have never taken
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Speaker 3: a cycle of antibiotics, but if you have, then it's
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Speaker 3: really about the rebuild, you know, because it strips away
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Speaker 3: all of our good bacteria as well. It's about putting
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Speaker 3: that good bacteria back in. So you get that in
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Speaker 3: the form of high quality probiotics. There's all different forms, right,
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Speaker 3: There's there's you know, soil base, which is very popular.
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Speaker 3: There's you know, and I would say talk to your
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Speaker 3: practitioner because I can't drop brand names here, but you know,
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Speaker 3: talk to your health practitioner and your doctor about getting
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Speaker 3: having a really solid probiotic that supported with a probiotic
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Speaker 3: that you want to have on a regular basis. Now,
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Speaker 3: some people have an overgrowth, right, like if you've got
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Speaker 3: some if you've got like candida or see some overgrowth,
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Speaker 3: that may not serve you in a short period of time.
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Speaker 3: But on a regular basis, you want to have healthy
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Speaker 3: bacteria and you've got microbiom and you want to be
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Speaker 3: able to feed that bacteria. And especially if you've gone
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Speaker 3: through or taking any type of antibiotic, and you want
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Speaker 3: to do it during So most doctors will say it's pointless,
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Speaker 3: pointless to take probiotics when you're on antibiotics. I highly disagree.
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Speaker 3: It's really about when you take it. So if you're
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Speaker 3: taking an antibiotic and it's like a twice a day thing,
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Speaker 3: then you want to find time in the middle of
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Speaker 3: your day where you take a probiotic and something that
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Speaker 3: has live bacteria in it that's refrigerated. There are some
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Speaker 3: that are shelf stable. You want to get that in
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Speaker 3: the middle of your day away at least three hours
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Speaker 3: away from taking that to help support your system. And
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Speaker 3: then there's something that I have, you know, recommended, I've
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Speaker 3: been using for years, that I've been recommending to my clients,
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Speaker 3: and really there's been such I didn't realize people didn't
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Speaker 3: really know about it. So we did a blog post
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Speaker 3: and it's called Irish sea moss. Just get some unless
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Speaker 3: you have unless you're exceedingly high in certain minerals. Irish
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Speaker 3: sea moss is basically a seaweed. You find it off
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Speaker 3: the coast of like the Virgin Islands, like Saint John.
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Speaker 3: It's and it's seaweed, so you can get dry and dehydrated,
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Speaker 3: you can rehydrate it, cook it a little bit without
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Speaker 3: killing it, and it looks like a gel and you
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Speaker 3: just take like a scoop of that once a day.
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Speaker 3: I would say, depending on what your system is, like
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Speaker 3: one to two tablespoons once a day, maybe you might
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Speaker 3: need more, you know, towards the evening or something. And
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Speaker 3: this is like the superfood of superfoods. It's got nine
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Speaker 3: ninety four of the one hundred plus essential amino acids.
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Speaker 3: It's higher in touring for anyone who's more plant forward.
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Speaker 3: It's got all the vitamin minerals that you need and
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Speaker 3: because of them, and this is sort of very rividic
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Speaker 3: or Chinese medicine. It's it's like a gel, so it
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Speaker 3: kind of mimics don't get grissed like kind of mucus.
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Speaker 3: You know, our gut, our digestive system or GI system
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Speaker 3: is very it's lined with it's our The mucosal system
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Speaker 3: of our GI is so important that protects us. And
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Speaker 3: so a lot of people have leaky guts because they
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Speaker 3: don't have healthy gut MicroB that can lead to other issues.
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Speaker 3: And this is something that's really helped people that have
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Speaker 3: had lifelong ibs, you know, lifelong floating, lifelong digestive issues,
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Speaker 3: food allergies, food intolerances, constipation, all kinds of things. So
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Speaker 3: if you have any of those issues, or if you've
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Speaker 3: been rough on your tummy, like maybe went to Vegas
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Speaker 3: for a weekend and had a bachelor bachelor party, this
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Speaker 3: is something that you want to put into your system
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Speaker 3: because it really helps heal and coat the gut and
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Speaker 3: then helps support the microbiome.
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Speaker 1: Now you mentioned, you know, kind of going out and
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Speaker 1: going to a bachelor a bachelorette party in Vegas. I myself,
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Speaker 1: you and I are having this conversation shortly after I
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Speaker 1: return from the super Bowl. It was a fun weekend,
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Speaker 1: but definitely a gluttonous weekend. And so that brings me
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Speaker 1: to the concept and topic of which we are here
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Speaker 1: to talk about today. What is someone to do when
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Speaker 1: they're feeling as though they have quote unquote messed up.
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Speaker 1: I'd love for us to address the mental side of
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Speaker 1: things right and the importance of having grace with yourself
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Speaker 1: after a big weekend. So what's the first thing that
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Speaker 1: you talk to your clients about after they feel as
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Speaker 1: though maybe they have gone too far in one direction?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? No, And that's such a And thank you for
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Speaker 3: bringing this topic up because it's so important. You know,
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Speaker 3: we beat ourselves up so hard when we have when
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Speaker 3: we binge, or we have a bad weekend or bad night.
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Speaker 3: And first of all, it's not even scientific. You've proven
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Speaker 3: that one bad night or one bad day or one
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Speaker 3: bad weekend is going to destroy your life. Our bodies
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Speaker 3: are always rebuilding like we are an ever healing, ever growing,
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Speaker 3: ever regenerating being. You know you are. Sometimes I think
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Speaker 3: that we it's really sort of about coming back to
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Speaker 3: reverence for yourself, for your for this incredible machine that
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Speaker 3: we are, which is more profound than you know, a
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Speaker 3: device that we give so much credit to. We're constantly regenerating,
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Speaker 3: We're constantly healing. So the first thing I would say
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Speaker 3: is exactly that, like, one weekend is not going to
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Speaker 3: destroy you. Now, are you going to feel terrible? Well?
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Speaker 3: Of course, because you put a whole bunch of toxins
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Speaker 3: in your body. So it's really just about pulling those
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Speaker 3: toxins out. And the number one thing and it sounds
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Speaker 3: so simple that people don't do that they can do
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Speaker 3: to help themselves is hydration. You know, from longevity conferences
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Speaker 3: that I've spoken at, to nutrition, to wellness, to right
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Speaker 3: I mean anything. If someone asked me, what is give
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Speaker 3: me a top three tip take home tip for people,
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Speaker 3: it's number one of them is always hydration. I would
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Speaker 3: say it's my number one. If I'm given three, it's
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Speaker 3: number one. If I'm given five, it's number one. If
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Speaker 3: I'm given ten, it's number one. Because every single client
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Speaker 3: except for me, be two that I've ever had comes
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Speaker 3: to me dehydrated. We just don't drink enough. We just
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Speaker 3: don't hydrate enough, but we don't drink enough water. So
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Speaker 3: unless you have something with your kidneys or your mineral
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Speaker 3: highly mineral deficient, which you can also add in trace
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Speaker 3: minerals back into your water, really staying while hydrate is
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Speaker 3: going to help you so much because it helps your
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Speaker 3: body flesh, it helps your body detox, and that is
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Speaker 3: what your body is trying to get rid of to
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Speaker 3: feel better. So whether it's alcohol or highly processed foods
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Speaker 3: or fried foods, I love my fries as well. You know,
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Speaker 3: whatever it is, it's you want to you want to
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Speaker 3: be really hydrated. I start my day with lemon water
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Speaker 3: every single day, like a warm cup of lemon water. Well,
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Speaker 3: I start my day with with coconut oil. I oil pool,
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Speaker 3: and it's actually something that can make you feel better,
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Speaker 3: especially if you've binged, because we have an accumulation of bacteria,
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Speaker 3: not the fun kind, not the friendly kine. So you
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Speaker 3: oil poll just those few days after you've had a binge,
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Speaker 3: even that alone will help with your immune system and
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Speaker 3: it'll help you feel better. So that's just basically taking
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Speaker 3: like a spoonful of coconut oil or something swishing around
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Speaker 3: in your mouth while you take a shower, so for
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Speaker 3: five or ten minutes, spinning it out and then brushing
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Speaker 3: your teeth, and then drinking your water or drinking anything else,
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Speaker 3: because you don't want to pull all those bacterias back
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Speaker 3: into your system. It's in your mouth and you want
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Speaker 3: to get rid of it. So staying really well hydrated,
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Speaker 3: alkalizing your system because most of the times when we binge,
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Speaker 3: we're taking in foods and beverages that are a little
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Speaker 3: bit more acidic. So whether it's alcohol or coffee for
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Speaker 3: the day after alcohol or whatever it is, we're putting
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Speaker 3: foods into our system that changes our page level and
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Speaker 3: puts it more into the acidic side. So if you
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Speaker 3: can alkalize your system, so whether it's with alkaline water
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Speaker 3: or drinking some lemon water, alkalizing your system is something
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Speaker 3: that's really going to help you. And then you want
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Speaker 3: to sort of take in foods to help cut what
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Speaker 3: I call it like leachs those toxins out. Helps you
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Speaker 3: kind of culate those toxins, and you want to put
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Speaker 3: things into your system to help you help bind I
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Speaker 3: love fresh herbs, like partially cilantro. I would put them
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Speaker 3: in your juices. The next day reach for a green juice,
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Speaker 3: which for some people it sounds not so yummy. For me,
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Speaker 3: I love, But if you need a little sweetness and
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Speaker 3: it put a green apple, put something in it, because
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Speaker 3: it's highly alkalizing. And if you put some of those
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Speaker 3: fresh herbs in it, they pull toxins as well, especially metals.
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Speaker 3: So these are all things that it just you know,
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Speaker 3: in order to feel better, you got to get rid
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Speaker 3: of the junk, and so that's that's what you need
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Speaker 3: to do, and just stay super hydrated.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because so often we're told we need all of
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Speaker 1: these things to detox. But the real deal is that
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Speaker 1: our bodies naturally do it for us.
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Speaker 3: Right, Our bodies are doing this without us even thinking
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Speaker 3: about it as we breathe, you know. So breath work
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Speaker 3: is something that is a bit more popular nowadays. But
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Speaker 3: even as we breathe, we're releasing toxins, you know, So
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Speaker 3: just even taking deep breaths or doing some sort of
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Speaker 3: breath work or gentle movement, all of this is helping.
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Speaker 3: You know, one of the most important things to remember
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Speaker 3: that you brought up when you first asked me, is
20:19
Speaker 3: just sort of being gentle worth ourselves and having that
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Speaker 3: grace and being and being kind to our nervous system,
20:25
Speaker 3: you know, because when when you're out and you're having
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Speaker 3: a great time and you're celebrating the Super Bowl or
20:30
Speaker 3: anything else, our nervous we're having a great time, but
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Speaker 3: our nervous system is like jacked, you know. And so
20:37
Speaker 3: part of it is also allowing ourselves to kind of
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Speaker 3: come back into a place of receiving, of processing, of
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Speaker 3: digesting and releasing, and that's bringing our nervous system back
20:48
Speaker 3: into a parasympathetic state, and we know how to do that.
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Speaker 3: That's meditation, that's breath, just taking it easy. All of
20:57
Speaker 3: those things that shift us into that state helps us detoks.
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Speaker 3: It helps us get our bodies back into that sort
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Speaker 3: of regenerous space, because, as you say, our bodies naturally release,
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Speaker 3: our bodies naturally cleansed and clean, and to allow ourselves
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Speaker 3: to do that, it's kind of being in that and
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Speaker 3: parasympathetic state, you know. So it's really it kind of
21:25
Speaker 3: we get stressed out. I was just like, ah, and
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Speaker 3: I've you know, I did this. I'm so mad at myself.
21:29
Speaker 3: I lost all this weight just to get to the
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Speaker 3: just to go on this trip, and then I binged
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Speaker 3: and I feel like I've put all this weight back
21:36
Speaker 3: and I feel bloated. And that's just natural how your
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21:44
Speaker 3: unless this is what you're going to do every single day,
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Speaker 1: admit that after a weekend or a week or whatnot
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Speaker 1: of like questionable eating decisions, I have been in a
25:01
Speaker 1: place where I've thought maybe I should just take a
25:03
Speaker 1: little time off, i e. Fast for twelve hours, twenty
25:07
Speaker 1: four hours reset the body. I know now that behaviors
25:11
Speaker 1: like that don't serve me, and that through my studying
25:14
Speaker 1: for my Precision Nutrition Level one certification and whatnot. The
25:18
Speaker 1: best thing I can do is start to put good
25:20
Speaker 1: for me foods in my body. But I say this
25:22
Speaker 1: because I know that there are people listening to this
25:24
Speaker 1: who have certainly had the same thoughts.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there are some people and there are
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Speaker 3: a lot of people actually that feel like, oh, I
25:31
Speaker 3: ate so bad, I did, I was so naughty. I'm
25:34
Speaker 3: just not going to eat you know for two days.
25:36
Speaker 3: That actually stresses our system out. You know, our bodies
25:40
Speaker 3: are adjusted and you know, depending on your lifestyle, your
25:45
Speaker 3: body adjust to what comes in. So if it's used
25:47
Speaker 3: to a certain number of calories coming in, if it's
25:50
Speaker 3: used to a certain number of nutrients, when you put
25:53
Speaker 3: it in full deficit, it's stressful for the body. Now
25:57
Speaker 3: I am, you know, longevity wellness expert, so I will
26:03
Speaker 3: say that putting your body in short bouts of stress,
26:07
Speaker 3: you know, is actually good. You know, that's that's hormonic
26:10
Speaker 3: stress that can signal autophagy, and that's actually very good
26:14
Speaker 3: for longevity, which is why intermittent fasting has become so
26:18
Speaker 3: popular and I personally do that as well. I'm very
26:21
Speaker 3: big about an eating window you know, and getting a
26:24
Speaker 3: lot of nutrient dense foods and an eating windows. So
26:27
Speaker 3: I may, I may fast for twelve to sixteen hours
26:31
Speaker 3: on any given day. I try to do it regularly.
26:33
Speaker 3: But don't forget that those hours counts. Your sleep counts
26:36
Speaker 3: during that time, you know. So it's not like you
26:40
Speaker 3: are awake for twelve hours and you donate. It's more
26:43
Speaker 3: like your sleep, your sleep time counts. What you're saying
26:47
Speaker 3: is that is it not healthy to just go and
26:50
Speaker 3: starve yourself for two days after you have a bange?
26:53
Speaker 3: And yes, I agree, I don't think that that's healthy.
26:57
Speaker 3: I think that what you're doing is the perfect thing
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Speaker 3: to do, which is hydrate your system, have some moon movement,
27:03
Speaker 3: help your body flesh out, you know, anything that you
27:06
Speaker 3: put into it that doesn't serve you that you don't
27:08
Speaker 3: want any of those toxins, and then put really good
27:11
Speaker 3: things into your body, you know, the extra greens and
27:16
Speaker 3: maybe just even being fully plant based or plant forward
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Speaker 3: for those few days helps our helps our systems cleanse
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Speaker 3: and alkalize and get back and then bring in the
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Speaker 3: neutrines that it needs.
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Speaker 1: So when we're thinking about what some of these good
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Speaker 1: things can be can you provide a few examples.
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Speaker 3: So I'm very big about eating the rainbow, you know,
27:36
Speaker 3: that sort of core to my culinary alchemy, proprietary method
27:42
Speaker 3: of that protocol that I do. I put it out
27:45
Speaker 3: in the community, but I also work with clients that way.
27:47
Speaker 3: Eating the rainbow is really important because we get all
27:51
Speaker 3: those polyphenols, all those plant funels, all those vitamins and
27:55
Speaker 3: neutunes that our body actually needs because we are kind
28:00
Speaker 3: of hit a deficit if we're binging on things that
28:02
Speaker 3: aren't as healthy, and that helps us. And greens, you know,
28:06
Speaker 3: anything that's highly alkalizing, anything that's in anti inflammatory. So
28:11
Speaker 3: you know most people know about ginger and turmeric. Those
28:14
Speaker 3: are great, you know, down those immunity shots that you
28:17
Speaker 3: you might see at the juice store or at the
28:19
Speaker 3: grocery store, those are all great when you're trying to
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Speaker 3: sort of detox, but at the same time give your
28:25
Speaker 3: body what it needs. So lots of greens, fresh vegetables.
28:31
Speaker 3: Of course, if you can get them organic, that would
28:33
Speaker 3: be preferred. And I would say minimize the sugar. So
28:38
Speaker 3: people may go to smoothies thinking that this feels refreshing
28:41
Speaker 3: and great, and it is, but just be mindful of
28:44
Speaker 3: how much fruit there is in it and how much
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Speaker 3: sugar because because you know that might not always serve
28:51
Speaker 3: your system as well, because you probably already took in
28:53
Speaker 3: a lot of sugar when you were binging. So minimizing
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Speaker 3: that the few days after the week after is good.
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Speaker 3: You know, lots of greens, it really helps.
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Speaker 2: We like greens, Okay? Cool?
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Speaker 1: And then as we move forward and talk about this
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Speaker 1: concept of detoxing aside from hydration, taking in greens, being
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Speaker 1: mindful of the sugars that you're putting into your body,
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Speaker 1: is there anything else that we should take into account?
29:20
Speaker 1: I love that you touched on the concept slash benefit
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Speaker 1: of breathwork and meditation.
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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I mean we want to release, right, and
29:29
Speaker 3: so we want to sweat because sweating is a way
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Speaker 3: that our bodies release toxins. And you can do that
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Speaker 3: in so many different ways. You know, whether that's through
29:38
Speaker 3: exercise and of course drink more water when you're sweating.
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Speaker 3: A lot, can be through hot yoga, through cardio, it
29:46
Speaker 3: can be any form of exercise and movement. And then
29:49
Speaker 3: of course there's also being in the saunas. You know,
29:51
Speaker 3: whether you are wanting to go sit in an in
29:54
Speaker 3: for it, sauna or any sort of sauna that helps.
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Speaker 3: Anytime your body can release, you are letting go of
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Speaker 3: those toxins. So massage too. And my clients love this
30:07
Speaker 3: when I tell them massage can be added into your
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Speaker 3: week as not just a lifestyle modality for health, but
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Speaker 3: actually movement because you are moving your muscles, the mazousin
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Speaker 3: the therapist is actually helping to open up and release
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Speaker 3: those toxins. That's why they tell you drink a bunch
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Speaker 3: of water after this, because they want you to let
30:28
Speaker 3: that pass through. So lymphatic drainage, massage, any type of
30:33
Speaker 3: sort of there's all kinds of quote biohacking type of
30:37
Speaker 3: gear that can help facilitate, you know, with compression and massage.
30:41
Speaker 3: All of that is great. Body work is great. Breath
30:44
Speaker 3: work is great obviously. Meditation, I believe is great for everything,
30:48
Speaker 3: not just detoxing, but because you breathe, you know, methodically.
30:53
Speaker 3: When you're in meditation again, every time you breathe, you're
30:57
Speaker 3: breathing out toxins, you know, and you're breathing in what
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Speaker 3: your body needs and you're breathing out what your body
31:02
Speaker 3: doesn't need. So all of that is great. And of
31:06
Speaker 3: course I know the ivs have become very popular in
31:08
Speaker 3: the last few years. They're excellent predominantly for hydration because
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Speaker 3: most people after they've you know, had a binge type
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Speaker 3: of a weekend, they're dehydrated. Usually you've taken in more
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Speaker 3: salts and more sugars, and you probably your body's not
31:25
Speaker 3: in balance with the amount of sodium that you're taking in,
31:28
Speaker 3: which is why that can be helpful. So you know,
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Speaker 3: I'm a fan of those as well, but you're mostly
31:35
Speaker 3: getting hydration when you're doing the IV You are getting
31:38
Speaker 3: the vitamins depending on what blend that you get, and
31:42
Speaker 3: that's probably because you didn't take in as many nutrient
31:44
Speaker 3: dense foods when you were binging and you're burning through
31:47
Speaker 3: a lot.
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Speaker 1: I feel like this word binging is like triggering for me.
31:51
Speaker 1: Do you find that a lot with like the clients
31:54
Speaker 1: that you work with.
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Speaker 3: It depends some people, yes, And I apologize if it
31:58
Speaker 3: was triggering for you.
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Speaker 2: But know like it's not. It's not your fault.
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Speaker 1: But I feel like it's just there's such a negative
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Speaker 1: connotation with the idea of like, oh, there's so much
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Speaker 1: guilt associated with it.
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Speaker 3: It is and there shouldn't be because by definition, what
32:11
Speaker 3: does binging mean. Binging means over consumption, right, and so
32:15
Speaker 3: we can just say over consumption. We consumed on you know, you're.
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Speaker 2: At the super Bowl, So not only did you.
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Speaker 3: Over consume maybe on foods and drinks that you wouldn't
32:26
Speaker 3: normally on an average basis, our senses are over consuming.
32:31
Speaker 3: Between the number of people and the energies and the
32:34
Speaker 3: sound and the decipel and the volume of sound and
32:37
Speaker 3: the lights and everything going on, our entire system is
32:41
Speaker 3: over consuming. So you know, I think that anytime, you know,
32:46
Speaker 3: I think that most of the time there's something, it's
32:49
Speaker 3: because there's a judgment. And don't judge anything. You know,
32:52
Speaker 3: you're allowed to live your life, like go have a
32:54
Speaker 3: good time. Just know that sometimes when you're doing that,
32:57
Speaker 3: when we over consume, then we're just we're putting more
33:01
Speaker 3: into our system than our body needs. And that can
33:05
Speaker 3: be you can over consume and binge on broccoli, you know.
33:09
Speaker 3: I mean, it's really just about overconsumption. And I think
33:12
Speaker 3: typically when we associate the word binge, it's associated with partying, right,
33:17
Speaker 3: and so there's this sort of negative connotation. But like
33:21
Speaker 3: let's just strip the judgment from it. What are you
33:24
Speaker 3: doing when you're binging? You are taking in more of
33:27
Speaker 3: something that you You are taking more than you need
33:30
Speaker 3: of something, you know, whether it's a food or beverage.
33:34
Speaker 3: It may be alcohol, it may be tater tuts, whatever
33:37
Speaker 3: it is. At the end of the day, you're just
33:39
Speaker 3: taking in more than your body needs. That's simply what
33:43
Speaker 3: it is. So what do you you just balance out
33:45
Speaker 3: your body?
33:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so we talked about, you know, certain foods
33:50
Speaker 1: and things to incorporate if you feel like you've kind
33:52
Speaker 1: of overdone it. We talked about the benefit of breathwork.
33:55
Speaker 1: The last thing that I do want to talk about,
33:56
Speaker 1: and we touched on it all right briefly already is
33:59
Speaker 1: the benefit fit of getting some movement in right, and
34:02
Speaker 1: that movement doesn't need to be anything crazy.
34:05
Speaker 2: It can even be something simple like a walk.
34:08
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it doesn't have to be high intensity. You know,
34:12
Speaker 3: it's really just about movement. We have this mentality and
34:16
Speaker 3: it's very much a us mentality that more is better,
34:20
Speaker 3: and it doesn't have to be It's just about movement.
34:23
Speaker 3: It's movement, getting the movement and the energy and your
34:25
Speaker 3: body flowing, you know, getting your fluids flowing. Getting your
34:29
Speaker 3: own flat, your lymphatic flowing, getting your circulation flowing so
34:33
Speaker 3: that things can't your toxins can come out, your cells
34:37
Speaker 3: can get fed oxygen. I mean, it's just about flow.
34:41
Speaker 3: So any type of movement, walking is great. I mean,
34:44
Speaker 3: you can even do light yoga. Yeah. So the movement
34:47
Speaker 3: can help with circulation, it can help with your lymphatic system,
34:53
Speaker 3: which is sort of our detoxing system, right, and it
34:56
Speaker 3: can help with your digestive system, and of course, like
35:00
Speaker 3: I said, it helps with the energy. Just kind of
35:02
Speaker 3: helps with your chi and your prana. You have to
35:05
Speaker 3: everything is always in motion if you think about it,
35:07
Speaker 3: within our body, ourselves, everything is always in motion. So
35:11
Speaker 3: to sit stagnant is not really helping the flow of
35:13
Speaker 3: the whole system. So just movement, and it doesn't have
35:17
Speaker 3: to be extreme, it can just.
35:18
Speaker 2: Be like movement, just movement.
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Speaker 1: So many good tips in here, Serena. I'm so happy
35:23
Speaker 1: that we are able to find the time to connect
35:26
Speaker 1: on this, and I really appreciate all of your input.
35:29
Speaker 1: I know that I am certainly taking it to heart
35:31
Speaker 1: today and I'm sure I'll be taking it to heart
35:33
Speaker 1: again very very soon. So how do the hurdlers follow
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Speaker 1: Give us your details?
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Speaker 3: Great, Thank you so much again for having me. Everyone
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Speaker 3: can find me at at chef Serena Poon. So on
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Speaker 3: my social the handle is a Chef Serena Poon and
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Speaker 3: then my website is Serena loves dot com and there's
35:57
Speaker 3: tons of information you know, just like dive in and
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