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#667: Control the Digital Battlefield | Chris Horlacher · Macroaggressions

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  He has a company called live longer formula. You can go to live longer formula dot-com and find out more about what he is
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  Doing to help people with their health
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  Look, I ditched Western doctors a long time ago
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  They don't serve me. They don't want the same thing
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  I they want to put me on pills for the rest of my life and I'm not interested in doing that if you're somebody who is
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  Feeling like maybe you're not at your best your energy is down your hormones are out of whack
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  You have your sleep your sleep is off
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  You know, all those things are fixable. That is I guess the good news
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  You got to get honest about it though Christian will help you you can you can go to live longer formula dot-com and read up about his
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  Program and see if it's right for you and if it is tell him that I sent you and tell him that you're you're
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  Finally at a point where you're ready for a little bit of help
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  There's no no shame in asking for help with this. This is your health. You have to take control of it
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  It's nothing more important than your health
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  You give anything to feel bad better when you're feeling shitty
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  I've seen it with my own eyes with people who are really sick
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  Don't get yourself in that situation. You got to take preventative
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  Measures and you got to be honest about where you are and so if you're interested live longer formula dot-com check it out
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  And since we're talking about health, you know, how I feel about the folks at chemical free body
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  I'll tell you what I would suggest
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  Parasite cleanse it's a 30-day program. It's not a huge long commitment like the detox bundle
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  Which is 90 days if you have 90 days do that
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  But if you want a quick one just to test it out and see if this is actually works or if this is all nonsense
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  Do the parasite cleanse for 30 days? I I
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  Experienced something I didn't think that I would experience I thought
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  That maybe I would I would get rid of some of the parasites and everything would go back to the way
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  It was afterwards. I lost 10 pounds after my parasite clint and I did not have 10 pounds to lose and it
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  Believe me. I'm thinking all the time. Did I have 10 pounds worth of parasites in my body?
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  Alive doing things unspeakable things that I didn't know about if I did they're not there anymore
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  Because there's a scale at my gym and I check my weight not because I'm concerned about it
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  But I'm just kind of curious and and look I know Christian
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  Or I know that Tim and in the crew at chemical free body don't sell any of these things as weight loss supplements or anything like that
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  I'm just saying that I have had on two different occasions with their products
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  Instances where I dropped 10 pounds and it never came back
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  So look if you're interested in just checking it out and reading up about a chemical free body com forward slash macro
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  Is the place to go?
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  all right
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  well at an archipelago
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  This year in the one in port of iarta
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  We had an event that took us off campus to this beautiful mansion
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  Right in the harbor in port of iarta where there was a dollar vigilante vigilante insiders club
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  VIP party that was happening in conjunction with the tesla club
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  party that was happening by the way
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  Since I mentioned tesla club if you guys are just so you know if you're looking for
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  A job tesla club is tesla dot club
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  Go to that website and take a look and see if they have job openings
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  You might find the most interesting job in the world if you were you know, they're not hiring just anybody
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  but I think maybe this audience is might be a right fit but but anyway, we're at this party and
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  Chris is chris horlacher my guest today is
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  Is there and we've been on the show before so we've known each other for years
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  But he told me the story of what he's been working on or what's been happening to him and
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  And and while he was telling me this story and it I knew
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  I'm gonna get you on the show. I mean, I think I even told him during I'm gonna have you on the show
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  I want you to lay it out because if this can happen you can happen to anybody really
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  I mean, I suppose he's he's a high valued target. He's he's got
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  He's got major
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  Financed skills. He's he's a guy that would be somebody that would be extremely valuable to them to capture
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  so
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  He told me the story and and that's the reason why I wanted chris to come back. So
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  Take your time with this one. He's gonna lay it all out in in chris fashion
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  But you're gonna be rightly terrified of the canadian government after you hear this
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  Please enjoy my interview with chris horilcher the cfo of the dollar vigilante. All right
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  Well, this is going to be like there's going to be a continuation of our conversation
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  In port of iota in february when you went at the at the tesla club slash
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  Vigilante insiders club party that we were at you and I had plenty of time and you told me
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  A very detailed story about what you have been going through for the past
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  Well the past few years and you know has been where the heat started, but at least a decade you started this so
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  Let's talk a little bit about equa bit
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  what it is people for people who are
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  You know want to know what a with the first?
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  Pure to pure equity and debt marketplace looks like why that wouldn't anger people what it means to the world of finance and
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  And start you know
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  Let's just start from the beginning and unpack this because you told a story that is
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  Relevant and crazy and people need to be paying attention to because if it can happen to you
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  It can happen to others and holy shit. It was pretty terrifying. So let's let's start start wherever you want
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  Not just can but is it's going on right now
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  It's happening to thousands of people
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  And they may not even know
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  That the government is doing this to them. That is what is so
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  dangerous
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  outrageous
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  Horrifyingly illegal
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  About what is going on and there is actually a name for this
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  It came out of east germany and after the berlin wall fell
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  The people stormed the stasi's headquarters
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  Because they they knew that the stasi would would destroy and burn everything. So they stormed the headquarters
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  Seized all of the documents and thank goodness. They did
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  because they found something that
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  explained
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  the life experiences
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  of thousands and thousands of people
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  and it was a manual
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  Officially called directive 1-7 6
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  Because it was introduced in 1976 and there were other iterations of this afterwards
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  But 1-76 is the original manual for something called zerset song
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  and zerset song is the german word for
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  Disintegration or decomposition
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  And this was a program for the extra just judicial
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  torture and
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  elimination
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  Of what the government deemed
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  to be like political threats
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  So people rising up in
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  Communist east germany who are making their ways through public school or or have gotten into their profession
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  At some point, you know, they do something say something accomplish something that lands them on the stasi's radar
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  And somebody in the stasi decides that this person is on a trajectory
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  that we don't like
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  And we need to steer the course of this person's life
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  and so
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  We will bribe and cajole and
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  Extort
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  Not this individual person
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  But everyone around them and we will insert and inculcate our own people into this person's life
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  And so we want to know is then, you know, absolutely everyone this person is in contact with is informing on them
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  and
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  Arrange and and helping to orchestrate events in this person's life to derail their companies
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  Ruin their education
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  Block their children's access to education
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  And just in general just to completely neutralize this individual as a potential
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  threat to the establishment regime
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  And
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  They did this to over 10,000 people
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  Yeah, this is what was discovered and they would do things like
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  Break into your house while you weren't there and rearrange the furniture
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  or
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  You know manipulate things in your business
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  Make sure that certain opportunities that came your way were then, you know,
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  quietly withdrawn or
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  rescinded or
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  They never come because
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  You know, you might be up for that promotion and you've worked hard and you have the seniority and you have the skills
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  And you're just not you never get ahead in this company that you've been
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  Hacking away at trying to climb the corporate ladder getting nowhere
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  Even though, you know, you're constant say you're constantly being praised for your performance, but then you're always getting passed over
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  So there's lots and lots and lots of ways this can manifest and if they wanted you eliminated completely
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  They would orchestrate your death and make it look like an accident because of course they they uh
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  They they recruited people from all walks of life teachers professors
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  University admissions
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  Lawyers judges financial people people in banks
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  People in media
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  but also like doctors and surgeons and nurses because
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  People die in hospitals all the time and nobody really looks the looks too closely at that
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  And so yeah, if you were going in for a surgery or some some sort of treatment
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  Then they would just make sure you died right there on the table and nobody's gonna question it because they'll just say oh, well, you know, they didn't
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  Surgery didn't work out the surgery, you know only had like a 95 success rate and I guess they were the five percent
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  Things happen
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  so
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  This
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  After the fall of of communism and the fall of east germany
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  This manual was
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  released out into the wild and it seems like the five eyes have adopted this
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  exact
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  Program because this is exactly what has happened to me and probably many thousands of others
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  uh, they
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  will
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  Generally use the term
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  Targeted individuals or gang stalking and that's kind of like the western
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  That's how we refer to it in the western lexicon
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  But the historically accurate term is or setsung and there's massive amounts of precedent for governments doing this
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  So it's not like a fringe idea
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  But
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  You know, we always have to be skeptical of counterintelligence efforts
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  And so like a lot of people who are claiming they're being gang stalked
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  are not
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  strategically valuable individuals to anyone
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  And they're just doing this to me and and
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  But why because i'm not particularly eloquent or
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  Talented or successful a lot of these people just seem like they're
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  They're one they're one bad day away from being homeless half of them
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  And that may be a result of this decomposition process
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  but uh
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  The other thing that they complain about is they they hear they're hearing voices in their heads like schizophenia
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  Or so this is some sort of microwave voice to skull technology, which we know exists
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  We've seen the patents. We've seen
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  The technical schematics. We've seen the military papers the declassified records talking about this technology
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  So it's out there
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  And even in in east german zerset song, they were talking about
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  energy-based weapons because a lot of people
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  Who were verifiably victims of zerset song died of very strange cancers
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  Interesting and so the yeah the the the idea that was circulating at the time was that the stasi was using some sort of x-ray
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  based machine
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  And they would just paint your house with this like all day long and just exposing you to it until you got sick and died
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  And it would just look like you developed cancer really weird cancers, and then you would just die
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  So
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  Yet maybe they're they're
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  Using that kind of stuff. I I've never experienced anything like that personally. I've never felt a
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  Like a like it's never felt like a radio in my voice and i'm hearing like rush limba or somebody
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  Like telling me i'm a worthless content. I should just kill myself or something
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  So
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  I don't think I it would even work on you because i'd write away. I I'd know
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  Like again
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  In my head, I don't I who are you yeah that well I look they I'm sure they tailor make the
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  Experience to fit the person maybe you know like for somebody who's on the fringes you they definitely do put a voice
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  They definitely do
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  They one of the the main one of the main come things that they would do
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  Is in recruiting people or in your circle of friends with from within your family extended family friends professional circles
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  they would
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  Get these people they would bring them in and have them
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  Explain who you were as a person. So what was your personality like so they could profile you
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  And then come up with plans for maximum damage and and psychological agony
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  Because the goal is to essentially get you to kill yourself
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  because they they they couldn't just
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  Seize you and execute you in the street
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  Because the regime didn't want that they didn't want to look like the bad guys in this situation because
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  looking like the good guys is
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  Priority number one you always either have to be the victim or the good guy in every situation
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  and and that is
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  That that that's the government mo and that was always their top priority
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  And so making everything look like it was their own
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  negligence or just bad luck
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  Is the goal of the program
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  And so this was what they tried to do to me
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  And my equibit company and so I guess now is a good time to kind of segue into that. Yeah, because
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  It it's such a long story that
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  I had a hard time wrapping my head around it because up until
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  Now the only real long-term entrapment efforts that have been exposed out of canada would be the john nuttall
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  And amanda cority case and and these were a boyfriend girlfriend couple
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  who
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  Were hooked on opiates. They were they were hooked on heroin and they entered into
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  Like a rehab program and they converted to islam because islam is a big no drugs
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  Kind of religion no drugs no alcohol kind of religion and and they pursued islam as part of their
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  recovery
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  And
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  cesis apparently took an interest in this couple because in the court in the court records
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  You will never see any mention of cesis, which is the canadian cia in any of the national media that have been covering
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  The the the john nuttall story and this is very
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  Deliberate because again cesis can never be the bad guy in any situation
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  But it was cesis
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  This his entire experience began because cesis
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  called up the rcmp
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  and said
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  this one
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  This is the one
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  And so an rcmp officer goes undercover joins the rehab
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  group pretending to be another addict and then
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  Befriend's radicalizes
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  trains
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  Pays for like handholds john right up to the door of bc parliament hands him the bomb
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  Says just go put it on the stairs over there and then as soon as john was done doing that
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  they'll sweep in and arrest him and
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  Charge him with terrorism. There's a whole great big trial. He gets convicted
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  But then he appeals he wins the appeal the appellate court judge says
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  Yes, this is a clear-cut case of entrapment
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  The government appeals that it goes up to the bc supreme court who upholds the appellate court's ruling
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  So there's no more there's no further to go. This is this is case law in canada the rcmp
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  with the help of cesis
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  Conducts years-long efforts at trying to direct somebody into the commission of a crime so that they can
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  arrest them and plaster
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  You know make the news cycle
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  Or for other reasons
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  from my part
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  Yeah, I I think I would have been much more valuable to them as another
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  undercover asset within
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  Financial institutions because like I built a stock brokerage. I helped to build a stock brokerage
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  I helped to build an insurance underwriter
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  And so like I'm not even 40 years old and I've already helped to build two financial institutions from scratch
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  I was the country's youngest chief financial officer of a financial institution in history
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  And I got a whole other, you know laundry list of accomplishments behind me
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  That probably made me stand out from the crowd at a very early age
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  So whether I came onto their radar then or afterwards after I discovered austrian economics and ron paul starts his
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  2008 presidential campaign
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  And you know, I'm going through a kind of a philosophical
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  revolution in my own mind discovering the austrian business cycle theory
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  and
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  all of the uh, all of the
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  The classical economical theories that they don't teach anymore in university
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  I wonder why and uh, finally getting a getting a really good grasp of how
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  International trade and the global economy actually works
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  And so I'm you know, I've just like anybody else at this point in my personal development
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  I'm super jest up and talking about this online to everyone
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  So maybe that was what
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  got their attention
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  because shortly afterwards is when
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  I believe first contact began and so I
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  had
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  Just recently discovered bitcoin. It was it was uh in the later half of 2010
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  So bitcoin pizza day was the day I discovered bitcoin because as a guy in finance
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  A new form of money emerges
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  I'm interested
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  Yeah, and so I start watching it very closely very intently learning as much as I can about it
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  And at the time now I'm working at the stock brokerage and I realized very quickly
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  What bitcoin can do for the banking industry?
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  It can also do for the securities industry because the securities industry is modeled up the exact same way
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  Instead of clearing houses you have transfer agents instead of
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  central banks
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  You have central depositories
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  And it was the transfer agents in the central depositories that I saw as the real big problem in the securities industry because their business model
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  Was created in the 1980s and it hadn't changed in 50 years
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  uh, well 40 years I guess at that time and uh
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  uh
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  I knew at that time I I knew very quickly with some with the right modifications bitcoin could be extended
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  Not over just all money, but over all
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  intangible value
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  And it would all benefit from the security and the transferability and the privacy and everything that comes with
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  a blockchain protocol
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  And so this is what I wanted to build and this is that was the idea that hit me in 2010
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  And I and I was talking openly about it saying hey
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  This this is really cool. If you haven't heard of it check it out
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  But they can get so much more because money is big but securities
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  are a lot bigger
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  and uh
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  so
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  This was the moment so between my run paul
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  talk talking online and talking about bitcoin
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  And this idea I had that eventually we just started calling equa bit years later
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  Uh, maybe that was the moment where they decided okay. We need to get into this person's life
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  and start
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  Steering it around because this is when
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  The cesus officer who I am about to reveal. I'm not going to do this right here
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  But uh, I am about to reveal his identity. He is still undercover by the way
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  Uh, but I'm going to blow it out
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  along with other
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  Uh, cesus assets not necessarily officers. I don't think they are
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  Uh
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  But this is coming
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  And uh, so he he approached me
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  at uh, Mises Institute of canada booth
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  Where I where I was volunteering at
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  because uh
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  A man named redmond mison burger starts up the mises institute of canada and of course again
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  I'm super into the mises institute at this point in time and I hear all about it and so I go to their
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  opening sort of
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  Press conference introducing the mises institute of canada. I meet him. I meet the board of the current board of directors
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  And we hit it off and I I start writing columns for the mises institute of canada
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  I start speaking at their weekly meetups. I eventually also joined the board and become uh,
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  eventually I become the vice chairman
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  Of the mises institute of canada as well as the treasurer
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  created a
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  Continuing professional development
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  Course set so accountants cfa's cpa's lawyers
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  People in professions like myself. We have continuing education that we have to do to maintain our licenses
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  And those courses that you take need to be accredited in order to be recognized
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  And so I I created a set of courses
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  That people could then study austrian economics and get those credits for so a lot of uh, a lot of people on day street
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  Were pretty happy I did that
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  and uh
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  But uh, it didn't last the mises institute of canada eventually fizzled out and redmond weisenberger just kind of disappeared and
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  into
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  A huge marital problems
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  Which at the time I thought was just well, you know bad luck, but
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  now
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  It who knows
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  redmond if you're watching
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  Google's or set song
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  It might have they might have done it to you
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  They definitely did it to me because I've caught them red-handed doing it multiple times at this point once I clued in
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  I just started baiting them like crazy
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  And just running my own
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  Psychological operations and counterintelligence operations because I as a corporate auditor
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  m
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  Trained experienced and very skilled at ferreting out
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  People who are defrauding large companies and this exact same skill set that served me in that endeavor
• 28:23
  Serves me very well in hunting down and exposing spies
• 28:28
  Because it's the same job you you you mr. Spy you think you're serving your country?
• 28:34
  You're not you're you are a low-grade corporate fraudster
• 28:39
  And I'm in a position to say that because I know good corporate fraudsters. You're not them
• 28:46
  But
• 28:48
  So 2010 this officer approaches me at the mesis institute booth. We kick off our friendship
• 28:53
  I also happen to mention this bitcoin-y fork idea that I have to him at the time
• 28:59
  We start up our friendship there and then in 2010 in and this is happening in montreal
• 29:05
  Where he lived at the time and we know basically
• 29:09
  Canada like everything evil going on in canta is emanating out of
• 29:14
  Quebec and montreal
• 29:17
  Incidentally also he uh, he visited his dad quite frequently who lived in cornwall
• 29:23
  Which is not even an hour away from cesis headquarters
• 29:28
  So there's also that
• 29:31
  But nevertheless
• 29:32
  It didn't go right into an entrapment efforts
• 29:37
  It was just build the relationship and I guess build trust and so that he will then start taking suggestions
• 29:44
  And then eventually one of the suggestions was hey chris. Let's build
• 29:50
  That crypto idea of yours
• 29:53
  And I had been pushing it back for years and years and years because I was like well, there's just not enough
• 29:58
  Capital locked up in crypto yet a couple million bucks. I I can't wrap a securities market around a couple million bucks
• 30:06
  a couple hundred million bucks a couple billion bucks
• 30:10
  Which it had reached then at at 2015 when we begun at that point now. It was like, okay. Yeah, let's get building
• 30:16
  this is
• 30:17
  There's some real money in here and it needs somewhere to go to you know mobilize capital and and be productive rather than just
• 30:25
  Sit in people's wallets accruing value
• 30:28
  So nothing suspicious at this point, right? You you're
• 30:32
  He's he's encouraging you to do your idea, right? So so there can't be anything that's catching you
• 30:39
  At this point. No, I'm not suspecting anything because I'm like, okay. I've got this really
• 30:44
  I've got this pretty
• 30:46
  faithful friend
• 30:48
  Who is a fairly talented?
• 30:51
  A web programmer
• 30:54
  Web developer and he can help me develop this idea
• 30:58
  He went to queen's university in a good program
• 31:01
  Left
• 31:02
  Four credits shy of graduating
• 31:06
  For some reason
• 31:07
  Mm-hmm. I wonder what happened there
• 31:09
  He recruited right out of university or recruited right out of the prison. Yeah, you're getting arrested for something stupid
• 31:19
  Well, I know I've been looking into him never found it never found it
• 31:22
  So I think like these the ceases recruits straight out of university particularly queen's university
• 31:31
  And particularly the cognitive science program at queen's university
• 31:36
  So if you want to be a career criminal, that's where you go and if you do well in that program
• 31:41
  I think you're going to cut a call from a recruiter at cesis at some point
• 31:44
  Because I think this is exactly what happened to him and they offered him a gold-plated job package
• 31:50
  Lifelong opportunity and employment. So he's like, yeah, why do I need to finish?
• 31:55
  University I've got the offer in front of me sign the dotted line. I'm now
• 31:59
  Uh, I'm an indentured servant to the security state of canada now forever. They're going to take care of me
• 32:05
  Uh, I basically can do anything
• 32:09
  And and I won't go to jail won't get charged blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and of course we all know
• 32:15
  Incentives matter and if you can do stuff without
• 32:19
  Any kind of consequence then yeah, you're going to turn into a complete prick
• 32:25
  Which is exactly
• 32:27
  Who this guy is because he will just look you in the face and pretend to be your friend while he's leading you into
• 32:34
  An absolute disaster and that's exactly
• 32:38
  What he did to me
• 32:40
  So it eventually involved
• 32:44
  Uh, the ontario securities commission acting again on an anonymous tip
• 32:49
  Meaning you get a phone call from cesis and they said that guy
• 32:53
  And then the ontario securities commission just tries
• 33:01
  Absolutely everything in their toolkit to smash the company and bring me down for
• 33:08
  Securities a securities violation, which of course is exactly what they leverage into forcing you into working for them
• 33:15
  afterwards now
• 33:17
  I
• 33:17
  Defeated the ontario securities commission
• 33:21
  Uh, they they could not get me on a securities law violation. I actually
• 33:27
  I I clued in pretty quickly that they were trying to entrap me and then I
• 33:33
  Entrapped them instead
• 33:35
  This is
• 33:36
  Again, you know, you're I'm like the five star general of the corporate world
• 33:43
  I'm not an easy target guys. I I can't believe you have you need to figure that out but
• 33:49
  For whatever reason, uh, yeah that we sent we we sent the ontario securities commission
• 33:57
  Running away tail between their legs after, you know, we had them on record telling us to do
• 34:03
  The thing that you just opened up an enforcement action against me on
• 34:08
  So
• 34:09
  Yeah, you're not gonna look very good if this is if you want to take me to the if you want to take me in front of
• 34:14
  The commission I'm gonna play that tape
• 34:17
  And then it's your ass
• 34:20
  Because so because yeah, you you have a you have immunity up to a point
• 34:25
  But you cannot tell a person
• 34:27
  To commit a crime and then go after them for it
• 34:31
  Right in a normal
• 34:34
  System where the laws are upheld and matter, right? But what if you're dealing with the
• 34:41
  The communist state of canada where the laws seem to be written in pencil
• 34:46
  I mean even then if you
• 34:49
  If they're trying to walk you into an entrapment operation or you know, say do this because we said
• 34:54
  To do it and then you do it
• 34:57
  And you would think logically well, I've got them on tape or on whatever recorded telling me to do the thing that
• 35:04
  I'm not supposed to do
• 35:05
  You would think that would be slam dunk, right? But in the modern world of the world of the last 20 years or so
• 35:14
  That's a gamble
• 35:16
  Even for so did you feel like you were you were
• 35:20
  Sure, you you knew you're not committing
• 35:22
  You know security's fraud and you knew that they were walking you into a trap and you knew you knew this in advance
• 35:28
  But even still knowing that
• 35:31
  Were you worried that they would rig the the game against you regardless?
• 35:36
  Yeah, absolutely the entire time like it's just it it's you just fear for your freedom kind of thing because you know
• 35:43
  You're dealing with liars
• 35:45
  You know, you're dealing with people
• 35:47
  Who will read a completely fictional version of events into the record and then convict you on it and that has happened by the way
• 35:56
  not to convict me but to
• 35:59
  Like undo a judgment that I had obtained
• 36:03
  Against one of my employees that they converted into an informant
• 36:08
  And uh, so the the the deciding judge like we I had I had gotten a default judgment against this guy
• 36:16
  He never bothered to show up to argue his arguing his own defense
• 36:21
  and uh
• 36:23
  So he he tries to get this default judgment overturned and gives a bunch of completely
• 36:32
  Bullshit stories one story was I just I thought the whole thing was fake
• 36:38
  And well, you didn't you didn't you didn't check with your own lawyer
• 36:42
  You didn't call the lawyers who were suing you whose names companies emails phone numbers are all over the papers you're getting served with
• 36:49
  You didn't call the courthouse
• 36:51
  To check to see if the docket number was was valid. You didn't do anything
• 36:56
  You just you just uh, this sounds like something that you're just coming up with expo facto
• 37:03
  Uh, oh, I just thought it was fake and
• 37:07
  This is not a serious argument. No court in the land should accept this because obviously what kind of precedent is that going to set?
• 37:17
  Uh, but not the the judge not only did the judge agree with that she said she said this was reasonable
• 37:26
  So in Ontario now it's reasonable to ignore civil lawsuits
• 37:30
  Not do anything to validate whether the suit is real and then just dismiss the whole thing is fake
• 37:36
  This is fine. You can do this in Ontario now. This is the law. You proved it
• 37:41
  Mm-hmm
• 37:42
  But his other excuse was well, I was distracted by the russia ukraine war and the russia ukraine war hadn't even happened yet
• 37:53
  He was anticipating it though. Yeah
• 37:57
  Yeah, so busy
• 38:00
  So the judge again is like, oh, yeah
• 38:03
  That that's reasonable too that you were distracted by an event that had not even yet occurred
• 38:10
  So that's also reasonable in any way and then in her in her decision to overturn the default judgment
• 38:17
  She reads out a whole bunch of stuff that she says happened in discovery
• 38:22
  Things that she says that I said in discovery
• 38:27
  Which did not happen
• 38:31
  Which did not have she she literally lied about what I said in discovery
• 38:36
  puts that in an official court document saying
• 38:39
  This person said this in discovery flat out lie
• 38:44
  And then issues her ruling saying oh, yeah, okay, uh judgment overturned
• 38:51
  Sergei, yeah, you you get to present your defenses if you know the last two years never even happened
• 38:59
  That's crazy
• 39:00
  So
• 39:01
  Yeah, I mean so the system is brutal and they rewrite the rules
• 39:06
  As they go in order to just continue
• 39:10
  This process on but they can only
• 39:13
  Do it for so long eventually you have to set a trial date eventually you have to you have to otherwise
• 39:18
  They will completely destroy the entire ontario justice system
• 39:24
  Nobody will be able to prosecute anybody in a civil action at all because
• 39:29
  The you've set the precedent now that you can just ignore it forever
• 39:35
  And
• 39:36
  And the judges are are going to have to go along with this so
• 39:41
  Yeah, that that's kind of the outcome
• 39:43
  It's either you pay me or you're going to lose the entire justice system and possibly even the legitimacy of your government
• 39:51
  In the eyes of the canadian public if anybody knew about it
• 39:54
  But that's the other thing the the suppression
• 39:58
  of this story in canada
• 40:00
  is
• 40:02
  Completely beyond anything
• 40:05
  Anybody has ever reported
• 40:08
  I've only managed to get one person in canada to talk about this on their platform
• 40:13
  And that that was dan dicks press for truth
• 40:16
  And it's certainly not for a lack of trying
• 40:18
  I've reached out to every major media outlet and every major alternative media outlet in the country and not a single person will respond
• 40:28
  I've even emailed the top
• 40:30
  PR agencies
• 40:32
  In the country
• 40:34
  I've put
• 40:34
  $50,000 on their desk and said I want a proposal
• 40:39
  They will not answer me
• 40:42
  Hmm, they don't they don't want the money. Why?
• 40:47
  Why aren't aren't you a for-profit company a pr agency?
• 40:54
  And so like this one cut this is the one organization is navigator navigator is a very large very well known pr agency
• 41:02
  in canada
• 41:04
  But the fact that they won't even answer my emails just to say sorry. We don't want your engagement
• 41:09
  that
• 41:11
  Says that is saying nothing says something. Yeah
• 41:15
  Yeah for for them
• 41:18
  So so what happens here? You you you wind up in in business
• 41:23
  Things are going things start to go well
• 41:27
  And then they wait. I mean so they've got a guy. I mean this is a long-term plan
• 41:31
  This is a very long-term plan like 10 15 years long plan
• 41:36
  Yeah, right. So and why you're acting like why like yeah, I'm a pretty smart guy
• 41:43
  But I'm still just one guy like I don't have an army. I'm not likely to ever have one
• 41:49
  I don't know like, you know, I go online I do these things but like my channels never blew up
• 41:56
  I never had more than a couple thousand followers on on twitter
• 42:00
  I never had much reach could never build much of an audience like I'm not
• 42:05
  At least from a narrative control standpoint on a national scale. I was not a threat
• 42:11
  So what the hell were you worried about me for?
• 42:15
  You know, just let me build my little cryptocurrency project get rich live my life and enjoy it
• 42:22
  I wasn't I wasn't gonna try and you know blow up your government. I I just wanted to leave
• 42:28
  but were you
• 42:31
  Just going to be another rung up the ladder where they would try to get you and then and really the goal
• 42:38
  Isn't it is you because you're such a threat to them, but you're such a valuable asset to some other
• 42:46
  Company in the future that if they could get possibly
• 42:51
  Maybe they had maybe they had some black ops that they wanted me to be the front man for
• 42:56
  Maybe because they didn't have anybody technically sophisticated enough
• 43:01
  In the realms that they wanted to pull a scam off in and and they do go out in there and pull scams
• 43:06
  Like probably half or more of the ico exit scams that have ever happened
• 43:13
  Have all been black ops funding
• 43:18
  Projects I don't doubt it
• 43:19
  And same with a lot of these crypto exchanges like ftx like
• 43:24
  I mean the the detonation of ftx was an inside job
• 43:28
  Like yeah admittedly it was an inside job like they knew what they were doing and you know, they had kevin oliri
• 43:36
  Mr fantastic shark tank guy talking about all the great due diligence that he's done on this company and they're so
• 43:43
  Spick and span and absolutely clean. Yeah, you'd be stupid not to invest your money in ftx
• 43:49
  Is he getting charged with the securities act violation?
• 43:53
  He had to know that
• 43:55
  They had just taken all the money and given it to some methhead to trade
• 44:01
  He had to have known you did the due diligence kevin
• 44:04
  Kevin oliri has a dark past by the way apparently he's connected to court link court any love for a long long time
• 44:13
  Going back before she was famous and and has this connection that guy's a deep operator
• 44:20
  All these guys all these like influencers or luminaries and you know, you're a warren buffett buffets and
• 44:27
  And you're your kevin oliri's and and all these gurus all these gurus are all fakes
• 44:33
  They're all fakes. They're all there to mislead you down one path or the other and
• 44:41
  It's just a never-ending stream of bullshit
• 44:44
  It really is you know, like what that guy the former cia director
• 44:48
  I think his name was william colby. He said this in some meeting with ronald reagan and he's
• 44:52
  The lady was there was like, I can't believe that you said this and she went out
• 44:58
  Delivering speeches about like colby frickin said this to ronald reagan. I was there and and he says he said
• 45:04
  You know our our disinformation campaign will be complete when everything americans believe is false
• 45:12
  Yeah, I mean it's we're if we're not there we're we can see it from where we are, you know, I mean it's it's so close
• 45:20
  people believe absurdities and
• 45:23
  and but I think the
• 45:25
  For some people the eyes are opening
• 45:27
  A story like this that you're talking about of of infiltration
• 45:33
  That lasts 15 years. I think maybe a while ago 10 10 15 20 years ago people would have gone
• 45:40
  Oh, you sound crazy. This is a bit much. I mean maybe but whatever. I don't know
• 45:45
  But now I think probably people are at least open to the idea that this exists
• 45:52
  I mean, I I think that the benefit of the jeffrey eppstein saga that we've seen
• 45:57
  Is is not in justice for anybody there. It's that
• 46:02
  And now a whole new batch of people a generation of of
• 46:07
  of
• 46:08
  americans
• 46:10
  Now understand that there's the possibility that there is an eppstein like guy who does who runs
• 46:17
  Trafficking operations multiple and and that this is now a thing in their head in a way that maybe
• 46:24
  You know multiple multiple
• 46:26
  Probably an eppstein at least one eppstein in every major country on earth. Oh, yeah
• 46:32
  I think he's got a frame to me. I always kind of looked at it like a franchise, you know, he sort of had like that new york palm beach
• 46:40
  you know
• 46:41
  virgin islands
• 46:44
  Side and maybe Hugh hefner was running the west coast with with the playboy mansion and and and ops going on in
• 46:51
  Hollywood and elsewhere and there's
• 46:53
  So now people are open to this they're they're wrapping their heads around the concept that maybe the intelligence agencies
• 47:00
  aren't
• 47:00
  There to protect and serve and well, there's a letter. There's a letter written by harry truman
• 47:07
  It's in the truman library. You can go read it yourself. But he's just blasting the fbi
• 47:13
  And he's calling the fbi the stasi
• 47:16
  In this letter in his own hand
• 47:18
  It's a handwritten note and he's like we don't want a stasi in this country
• 47:23
  The fbi is getting into all this nasty stuff. They're creating sex scandals and they're doing blackmail
• 47:29
  We don't want this in america
• 47:33
  Signed harry truman
• 47:35
  Well harry, sorry, but it's yeah, it didn't work out. Yeah
• 47:39
  Um, let's let's finish up this story though. So so to speak. I mean
• 47:44
  Because to the extent well, that's officer
• 47:48
  He's this officer basically is the co fat. He co-founds the company with me
• 47:52
  And so now he's in a position now to stack the company with his his operatives
• 47:57
  And make sure that anybody's not under his control is eventually brought under his control and either
• 48:04
  flipped into being a
• 48:06
  Willing informant or blackmailed into being one
• 48:09
  And so with the developer
• 48:11
  Who I sued who is like, oh, yeah, I thought the whole thing was fake
• 48:16
  Is just he was flipped
• 48:18
  Into a cesis asset he got recruited
• 48:21
  Because he had to do a whole bunch of stuff that looks an awful lot like security clearance activities
• 48:26
  So he had to suddenly he just disappears for two weeks
• 48:29
  And he comes back and says, oh well cesis told me I had to go
• 48:33
  Back to russia get rid of this business interest
• 48:36
  I owned and only then would they sign off on me becoming a canadian citizen
• 48:42
  And I'm like, well that sounds like complete bullshit because canadian citizens are allowed to own russian stocks
• 48:50
  canadian spies
• 48:52
  spying on russia are not allowed
• 48:55
  To own russian stocks
• 49:00
  So
• 49:01
  Yeah, uh, so that happens so the can so over the years as we built up the company
• 49:07
  He made sure that
• 49:09
  You know the company was basically stuffed full of people who would do what he needed to do when the time
• 49:14
  Came to strike and that that came shortly after we
• 49:18
  Started raising funds that opened the gateway for the ontario securities commission to strike
• 49:24
  And now, you know my friend
• 49:26
  He quits the company right after we raised a whole bunch of money and right before the osc shows up
• 49:35
  And like this is ridiculous like you just you just you're you're a c-suite. You're a co-founder
• 49:44
  The your startup just raised
• 49:46
  Just had a uh, uh, just raised millions of dollars
• 49:50
  And then you leave the company
• 49:53
  That's that's the that's the time you don't leave that's when you're just
• 49:57
  Come on
• 50:01
  You're supposed to be a like a spy you're like the country's best of the best and like you're gonna do this
• 50:09
  You're gonna do something so obvious
• 50:12
  And so immediately like he is suspect number one
• 50:16
  as as this
• 50:18
  The you know the ontario securities commission
• 50:21
  Tries to take us down first securities act violation. They fail
• 50:25
  So then the developer strikes with phase two
• 50:29
  Of the strategy to just destroy this company and scuttle the whole thing make sure he
• 50:35
  Make sure chris does not launch this product because once he lets it out of the bag
• 50:40
  The genie's gone and we can't shut it down and it's just going to build value and you know and
• 50:47
  Chris but like and we're all going to get super rich
• 50:50
  So why would you why would you try to shut that down like you were literally months away from making more money?
• 50:57
  Then it then you could ever imagine
• 51:01
  And and but and then you just kibosh the whole thing. So
• 51:06
  Yeah, I you know, you're working for a higher power. People don't just do this
• 51:11
  out of spite or something
• 51:13
  and
• 51:14
  And
• 51:15
  so
• 51:16
  Yeah, so the the we we send the ontario securities commission packing
• 51:21
  but then
• 51:22
  Then the we get hit with code thefts
• 51:28
  And
• 51:28
  And then the whole the whole thing kind of blows up in our face because we had just demoed that our system
• 51:35
  We proved it with with a bitcoin test net transaction
• 51:39
  But we did what's called a cross chain atomic swap swap one wallet with equa bit another wallet with bitcoin
• 51:46
  And it was a it was an atomic swap
• 51:49
  And the wallets found each other
• 51:53
  Opened up a secure communications channel exchange the keys exchange the assets and then partways and it's done
• 52:00
  And we were the only team in the world
• 52:03
  That has to this day that has ever demonstrated
• 52:07
  That that technology could be built can be built it exists in here
• 52:14
  but uh
• 52:16
  That's where it's going to stay now because I am not
• 52:19
  I am not going to try and develop this anymore not without some sort of guarantee and uh
• 52:27
  So yeah shortly after we demonstrated that our technology advanced to the point where we we had hit this
• 52:34
  massive technological breakthrough because this is like the holy grail of crypto that people had been working on for years
• 52:39
  And we cracked the code and then a couple of months after that
• 52:42
  The code was gone
• 52:45
  Uh the the developer who was working on the core protocol we found out later
• 52:50
  Was not committing real code. He was giving us fake code
• 52:57
  Because as soon as we hired our qa team and they started going through the commits and trying to compile the application
• 53:03
  Our cells in house. He was giving us a pre compiled application
• 53:09
  They didn't they didn't line up
• 53:11
  We said, okay, you know surgei his name was surgei
• 53:15
  Your your compiled binaries don't match your the code that you're committing
• 53:20
  What gives?
• 53:21
  And then he quits
• 53:24
  Because we had caught him we caught him
• 53:27
  And but unfortunately we never recovered the real code and so we had to start
• 53:33
  We threw everything he did out at this point because now this guy is compromised
• 53:37
  And we had to start over again rebuilding the core code with the new core developer who himself was definitely
• 53:45
  not not like surgei who who joined as
• 53:49
  You know like a real developer who wanted to work on a cool project
• 53:52
  This other guy was an asset
• 53:56
  Who who sabotaged us yet again?
• 54:00
  When we later we were frantically trying to rebuild the core protocol
• 54:05
  We ultimately we made it to a basic coin only functionality release in february
• 54:11
  But he rigged the code so that the network would only survive so long as his own node was turned on
• 54:18
  And then in april he turns his node off
• 54:21
  The network completely collapses everybody's node is like it can't connect to anybody
• 54:26
  It can't find anybody and so the whole equibit network had collapsed
• 54:30
  After that april 2019
• 54:33
  RIP equibit
• 54:36
  So he built he put a time bomb in there essentially that whenever he wanted to
• 54:42
  Pull the plug turn his node off
• 54:44
  That was it. I
• 54:46
  Secretly hired my own developer to go over his code and review it and we found that pretty quickly
• 54:53
  That he had done that
• 54:55
  So what happens?
• 54:58
  Okay, let's let's just assume your
• 55:02
  technology
• 55:04
  Doesn't get sabotaged and you are delivering peer-to-peer
• 55:08
  Uh equity and debt you've built an equity and debt marketplace. What would that look like?
• 55:13
  What would that mean? Why would that be a threat to them?
• 55:16
  Why would they see something like that and need to get a handle on it early before it's well?
• 55:21
  It was going to be a massive threat to the largest sector of the securities industry, which is not
• 55:28
  Incidentally what you trade on stock exchanges
• 55:32
  There's an order of magnitude more value trading off exchange in what's called the over-the-counter market
• 55:37
  And that was our initial entry point
• 55:41
  I didn't want to start competing against exchanges because
• 55:44
  They were not my competition
• 55:47
  Stock exchanges were going to be my users
• 55:49
  Because stock exchange because in an equi bit world
• 55:53
  stock exchanges now function like crypto exchanges
• 55:59
  You keep your securities in your wallet and you can do cross-chain atomic swaps with other wallets and never have to deal with an exchange
• 56:08
  So the exempt market dealers the over-the-counter dealers they're all out of a business unfortunately because
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  My wallet is going to allow people to browse
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  the marketplace find what's available
• 56:20
  and do a direct trade
• 56:24
  With those other wallets
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  Without calling up a broker without having to do anything you just click click click and now you've now you're done
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  Now as far as an exchange goes an atomic swap is never going to be as fast
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  As an exchange's matching engine
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  Which by its very nature has to be centralized and that that is one of the key things that a lot of developers
• 56:48
  building dexes don't seem to realize
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  And that's why their dexes don't function particularly well
• 56:55
  And you you still cannot do a cross-chain atomic swap on any of these dexes
• 57:01
  It's all mono chain
• 57:03
  So if it's a if it's an ethereum dex, you're trading erc 20 tokens if it's a selana dex
• 57:09
  You're trading selana based tokens. And so you're always
• 57:12
  Stuck in that one environment. You can't get out
• 57:16
  But uh with with our wallet you could you could go from equa bit to ethereum from equa bit to bitcoin
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  As long as equa bit was one half it worked
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  And uh, so we were going to be
• 57:30
  uh
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  Going at the exempt market
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  Initially as our initial penetration point and and we had a product that outclassed
• 57:41
  Everything the exempt market dealers currently had we were faster cheaper more secure more private like they would not be able to compete against our technology
• 57:49
  With it and we would very quickly swallow the exempt market and then from there we would go
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  After the exchange and say well, we're already housing like
• 57:58
  You know 10 billion dollars worth of
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  Uh unlisted securities you need to start bringing your listed securities and your exchange
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  Re-register these securities get them out of the depositories re-register them on equa bit
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  And then people can then deposit those securities
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  into your marketplace
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  Avail themselves of your matching engine
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  So now they don't have to do the work of finding the counterparty
• 58:28
  The exchange is doing all of that for you and that is a service that
• 58:32
  People are willing to pay for and yeah great charge commission
• 58:36
  It's fantastic and when you're done making your trades you empty out your exchange account back into your wallet
• 58:42
  and take direct custody of your securities, which is something that
• 58:47
  You sort of can do now
• 58:50
  But it's a long process it involves a lot of paperwork
• 58:54
  And then once you do it the exchange may never let you put those securities back into the exchange
• 59:01
  So once you take them out, you know, it's a one-way street. They'll never let you put them back in
• 59:07
  So you like you're stuck with those stocks forever
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  And
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  I mean that's a that's only a certain case with the stocks of certain companies
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  Because like when I was an auditor for Deloitte and auditing pension funds pension funds do this like they buy for the long term
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  They're not they're not trading and they're not trying to make spreads or anything like that. They just hoover up
• 59:31
  all the blue chip stocks that are available and sit on them forever
• 59:35
  And so that yeah the all these these large institutional funds insurance funds pension funds hedge funds
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  Whatever kind of fund it is
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  They are they're buying they're going to the they're going to the exchange
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  Buying up whatever they have cash to spend on
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  And and then withdrawing it
• 59:58
  Out of that exchange and into their own custodial account
• 1:00:02
  Now this is what would happen with our equibit system and the equibit wallet, but it would happen in 10 minutes or less
• 1:00:09
  Right
• 1:00:10
  Versus weeks
• 1:00:12
  So you built a
• 1:00:14
  You know, they're they're selling buggy whips
• 1:00:18
  You've built a new system that does it better
• 1:00:21
  I don't think that's why they targeted me though because I hadn't built it
• 1:00:26
  Yet when they befriended me and and they pushed they herded me into building it. So maybe
• 1:00:31
  they wanted
• 1:00:34
  Some of that technology for themselves. Maybe they've created some sort of dark
• 1:00:39
  Underground crypto market that's running on like the the dark web right now using my tech
• 1:00:46
  That they're using to trade assets in a black market
• 1:00:50
  To keep themselves liquid and funded for you know, all the nasty things that they like to do that
• 1:00:55
  They don't want a paper trail for so maybe that's what they wanted to do because very shortly after
• 1:01:00
  I had
• 1:01:02
  written out and and decided on this the
• 1:01:05
  The technical schematics and the actual transactions and how we're going to hash one thing into the other thing and how that
• 1:01:12
  Feeds into the whole construction of the atomic swap or something else that we had done and invented called trading passports, which was the world's first
• 1:01:22
  uh
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  real-world app applied
• 1:01:25
  A real-world application of what was called a web of trust and a web of trust is like a
• 1:01:30
  30 40 year old
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  Crypto technology that somebody wrote a paper about back in like the 1970s or the late 80s
• 1:01:38
  Uh, kind of like Phil Zimmerman's pgp paper
• 1:01:41
  And but it didn't get anywhere
• 1:01:44
  This guy just kind of writes it up and it's basically a way of creating trusted groups of addresses
• 1:01:50
  In a crypto messaging system and you know, so it was a nice theoretical paper that it then
• 1:01:57
  People just put it on the shelf and forgot about it for 40 years
• 1:02:00
  And then we kind of took it down and we looked at it and we're like, okay, here's our compliance system
• 1:02:07
  Because if we can you if we can adapt this to a blockchain network that now issuers can create
• 1:02:14
  groups of addresses
• 1:02:16
  That their securities can trade freely within but never leave
• 1:02:21
  And that's that's the secret compliance sources so long as you can keep what's called
• 1:02:27
  Unaccredited investors away from your securities
• 1:02:30
  Now you've got your compliance solution. So now yeah, of course we're going after the exempt market
• 1:02:37
  Because we've got a better compliance solution than they've ever experienced before in the history of
• 1:02:44
  That kind of marketplace
• 1:02:46
  Did you file patents for anything? Was there something like that that might have gotten on on their radar where you started?
• 1:02:53
  No, no, I never
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  I mean like
• 1:02:57
  Most of what we were building was going to be open source
• 1:03:02
  So
• 1:03:03
  Couldn't really patent it. It would it wasn't really worth patenting
• 1:03:06
  There were some stuff we were thinking of patenting which was going to be like our enterprise wallet products
• 1:03:11
  Because we were we were also the very first team in crypto
• 1:03:16
  to develop a wallet
• 1:03:18
  using what's called a hardware security module and a hardware security module is
• 1:03:24
  It's either a usb attached or a network attached device
• 1:03:29
  and
• 1:03:30
  it it resembles
• 1:03:32
  like
• 1:03:33
  You know a hardware wallet like this is
• 1:03:36
  You have the typical kind of hardware wallet that most crypto people are used to seeing but these things are big
• 1:03:41
  The network one is is a rack mountable server looking thing
• 1:03:45
  And these are like modern-day enigma machines and the key the private key is created and housed within the physical machine
• 1:03:52
  it never leaves
• 1:03:54
  and so
• 1:03:55
  All of the encryption decryption digital signatures all the crypto operations happen within this
• 1:04:01
  Self-contained piece of hardware the key never gets out and there's all kinds of counter measures
• 1:04:06
  Designed to stop somebody from being able to extract the key from this machine
• 1:04:12
  And so we've all experienced this in the world of ssl certificates
• 1:04:17
  Because like verisign, ogeo trust or whoever it is has one of these devices tucked away somewhere in their it room
• 1:04:25
  and whenever you buy
• 1:04:27
  An ssl certificate from them
• 1:04:30
  That certificate goes to into their machine gets signed and then comes back out and you stick that on your website
• 1:04:37
  And now the reason why you need to do this is because if you're in a
• 1:04:40
  If you're in a business in a multi-tenant environment
• 1:04:45
  It's you can't give someone an at your keys and then revoke it later
• 1:04:51
  Uh, so this is a big problem, but but with the hardware security module technology already solved it
• 1:04:57
  And it's already been in use for a long time in you know, ssl certificate authorities
• 1:05:04
  and all kinds of other
• 1:05:07
  multi-tenant
• 1:05:08
  User instances where you have you you have one key, but you have many people who need to use that key
• 1:05:15
  And so you you want to be able to just kind of just you know
• 1:05:18
  If you fire one person you don't want to have to regenerate all your keys and and redo your entire crypto stack
• 1:05:26
  Every time you have some employee turnover. That's a really bad
• 1:05:30
  security model so in came
• 1:05:33
  Hsm's and that solved the whole problem because you don't
• 1:05:36
  With the hsm again the key never gets out
• 1:05:39
  So it's kind of like it's kind of like
• 1:05:43
  You know again, it's kind of like your hardware
• 1:05:46
  Your your hardware wallet with the pin
• 1:05:49
  And so you you just give the pin and if if somebody and if somebody gets
• 1:05:53
  Is somebody with access to that pin
• 1:05:58
  Leaves the company or you have to terminate them, then you just change the pin. You don't have to do anything else
• 1:06:05
  But you know you still have to put this into someone's hand
• 1:06:11
  With the hs with an hsm, especially a network attached hsm, then these people can be all over the world
• 1:06:17
  They can still access it. So this was for corporate treasuries
• 1:06:23
  Institutional investors like this was the wallet solution
• 1:06:27
  And we were the first team to ever
• 1:06:29
  Take an hsm
• 1:06:31
  And make it into a wallet and have it do cryptocurrency transactions, but we did that in 2016
• 1:06:39
  We were the first company to do it
• 1:06:42
  Nobody else on the street until years after we had demoed that product. I think the very the the first hsm wallet company
• 1:06:51
  Didn't come out until
• 1:06:53
  I think a year or a year about a year and a half later after that we started seeing them they started up in
• 1:07:00
  They were starting up. I think in switzerland
• 1:07:03
  first
• 1:07:04
  But then we saw some other ones in 2018-2019 get started up in the united states one of them
• 1:07:11
  Was sold to paypal for 300 million dollars
• 1:07:15
  Now i'm not even suing the government for that much money
• 1:07:20
  And that part of our technology was
• 1:07:23
  Just a little side project we were working on. So if the little side project we were working on is worth 300 million dollars
• 1:07:30
  How much was the real stuff worth?
• 1:07:34
  Well, I think in billions and billions and billions because of course, you know
• 1:07:39
  We solved the 10 quadrillion dollar a year problem of securities transfer and settlement
• 1:07:46
  And it is a 10 quadrillion dollar a year problem
• 1:07:51
  Where what are you what are you doing now with the government? I mean, how does how does this end?
• 1:07:58
  How can it end?
• 1:07:59
  for you, you've you've
• 1:08:02
  Amy got there are people that were working against you. You've you've got them
• 1:08:06
  I mean you you know who they are and you've got everything I know
• 1:08:09
  I know where they live. I know where their kids go to school
• 1:08:14
  right
• 1:08:15
  So it's kind of like a mafia standoff almost it's like yeah, you know, I I know everything about you
• 1:08:22
  and you know everything about me
• 1:08:24
  And if we go to war
• 1:08:27
  It's very likely we're both dead at the end of that war
• 1:08:30
  So you can you know, we can reach our armistice and part ways amicably
• 1:08:36
  Or we can both do this until we're both dead and that's kind of the situation
• 1:08:41
  That's kind of the situation we're in
• 1:08:43
  Where I've got the government like they're kind of they've got their
• 1:08:48
  tentacles all wrapped around me
• 1:08:50
  And I've got my knife
• 1:08:53
  Jumped jammed right into their rib cage one inch away from their heart and it's like if you squeeze me harder
• 1:08:58
  I'm going to push this in a little further
• 1:09:02
  And so so we're in that kind of a situation where now
• 1:09:07
  They you know, I I've given them my terms and it's like
• 1:09:11
  I'm fine with us both dying over this
• 1:09:14
  Now if you want to live you better write me a check
• 1:09:19
  Well, um, is there a
• 1:09:23
  finish line
• 1:09:24
  For this is there is there a path towards getting off? Is there a solution? Is there a check?
• 1:09:30
  Well, I'd like there to be a check
• 1:09:32
  But I mean that's no guarantee again that they're gonna stop like they still might just just say yes here here
• 1:09:38
  Here's you know, here's all the money you wanted
• 1:09:40
  But you're never going to be able to get a bank account ever again anywhere in the world
• 1:09:44
  So
• 1:09:46
  There's going to have to be a few other concessions going on here. I'm going to need either like some sort of restraining order or
• 1:09:52
  Uh, some sort of default judgment that they've already agreed to if I catch them again messing with me
• 1:09:59
  Yeah
• 1:10:00
  Well, but I just wanted to be over man like
• 1:10:03
  This has been 15 years of my life
• 1:10:06
  I I mean, I don't want
• 1:10:08
  At this point now
• 1:10:10
  I just want to take my chips off of the table
• 1:10:12
  Go find a nice quiet quiet corner of the planet and just watch it just burn down because I don't
• 1:10:18
  I I I put in I put in so much time and effort trying to you know, wake up the population
• 1:10:25
  Get them to see what the heck is being done to them
• 1:10:30
  And and to what ends and why and like this is just the world is just an infinite slavery complex
• 1:10:35
  Like that's it like there there is no new world order coming people
• 1:10:39
  It's it's always been this way and it will continue being this way so long as you keep listening
• 1:10:47
  to your tv
• 1:10:49
  Yes
• 1:10:50
  Yes, well, I know one place where
• 1:10:53
  The tv's are not really welcome. That is at
• 1:10:58
  Anarcapulco and Lieberpulco. What do we what's the future of since I've got you here?
• 1:11:04
  What's the future of an arcapulco? What's uh and and Lieberpulco? Well, I'll I'll be there in in Serbia later
• 1:11:11
  This summer
• 1:11:12
  It seems like once you've got the team the right team in place you can you can kind of do this
• 1:11:17
  This little party just about anywhere. Well, yeah, yeah, and there might be more
• 1:11:23
  I've I speak fairly frequently with the organizers of an arcapulco and they want to do more
• 1:11:28
  They want to do more in more different places around the world
• 1:11:32
  uh, I think an arcapulco proper is is
• 1:11:36
  Has relocated now to porto vieta. I think they're going to stay there
• 1:11:40
  Based on the response of what they got the last year
• 1:11:44
  It was it was really well people were pretty happy that it was in porto vieta
• 1:11:47
  um
• 1:11:48
  There was a suggestion to push it
• 1:11:51
  A little bit later down in the year because february is high season
• 1:11:55
  So it's still a bit more expensive
• 1:11:57
  It's also harder for an arcapulco to find a nice venue in february versus
• 1:12:02
  If if they move if they push it back just a couple of months push it back into april now
• 1:12:08
  Uh, you know, the high season is gone
• 1:12:10
  You can basically go to whatever you can find that time to at whatever venue you want to go to
• 1:12:15
  The the flights and the hotel rates are even lower
• 1:12:18
  So I think
• 1:12:21
  Yeah, it might change to april. We'll see. I don't know. They don't talk to me about these kinds of plans
• 1:12:26
  They just sort of say well, you know, here we just there was a decision. Here's what's happening
• 1:12:31
  And
• 1:12:32
  You know deal with it accounting wise and I do so well they to be fair
• 1:12:37
  They did a like an informal survey at the finale the
• 1:12:42
  Yeah, I was there for that what that asked everybody raise your hand. What do you think you like this? Yeah, we like that
• 1:12:46
  okay, you know, so
• 1:12:48
  It seemed like part of iarta was definitely the pick and then the only sort of adjustment was do we
• 1:12:54
  Do you move it a couple months later in the year?
• 1:12:57
  Do you move it all out of the convention center and into a all-in-one place a place where you've got
• 1:13:03
  hotels restaurants and
• 1:13:05
  convention space in the same way we did it at the
• 1:13:11
  Mundo princess moonda
• 1:13:15
  Yeah, it's it's uh the
• 1:13:18
  It's kind of like a community homecoming event for a lot of people
• 1:13:23
  And uh, so like after you go for a couple of years at that point, you know, you've heard all of the stories
• 1:13:28
  you've heard all of the alternative theories for everything and
• 1:13:33
  You spend more time socializing than you do in in in the talks
• 1:13:38
  Yeah, and uh, yeah, so you just want to you know, go to the beach hang out with you know friends that you
• 1:13:43
  Haven't seen since last sonar capulco and
• 1:13:46
  You know go have some pesa leta. Yeah, have a have a nice margarita or you know, whatever
• 1:13:54
  Substance floats your boat
• 1:13:56
  Whatever you're in whatever you're into, you know, hey, it's mexico viva mejico and um
• 1:14:03
  Yeah, it's just it's it's that kind of event now for a lot of the the veterans and
• 1:14:10
  You know, we're always looking forward to it every year. So it's it's my it's my favorite week of the year
• 1:14:15
  There's always super weird stuff happening. Like, you know, like every year something crazy happens
• 1:14:20
  So like like just last year, you know, the
• 1:14:23
  The the drug lords and the cops put on a huge show for everybody
• 1:14:28
  In the last day in the very last days of the conference
• 1:14:32
  Just as people were starting to leave and
• 1:14:35
  So, you know, we we get to see that
• 1:14:38
  But yeah, there's always something I actually had
• 1:14:42
  Interesting thing happened to me the uh, so my wife and I we use whatsapp to communicate
• 1:14:50
  as most people in mexico do everybody's on whatsapp here and uh, we
• 1:14:58
  Had our ability to make calls to each other suspended temporarily by whatsapp
• 1:15:06
  The the video call and the voice call buttons were grayed out
• 1:15:09
  But only if I'm trying to call mira if I'm trying to call, you know, jeff or cat
• 1:15:16
  Or anybody else
• 1:15:18
  I can make that call on whatsapp. No problem. It was only my wife and only for about an hour
• 1:15:25
  That we had the ability to to call each other disabled now. I know your wife
• 1:15:30
  Imagine trying to explain that to your wife and say no, honey. I swear you grayed out
• 1:15:36
  And I couldn't call you I have I I have screenshots of that happening because I'd never
• 1:15:42
  Encountered that ever
• 1:15:44
  In all of my years of using whatsapp your wife's bullshit detector is already pretty good. I bet she was probably like
• 1:15:51
  Well, I don't know about that
• 1:15:52
  Well, you know, here's the picture, honey
• 1:15:55
  Buttons are grayed out for like for yeah, and
• 1:15:59
  Yeah, like why is that happening and that was apparently the apparently like mark zuckerberg's yacht was
• 1:16:06
  Like docked in cabo or something at the same time and there was no it was a big problem
• 1:16:11
  It was docked in port of viarda. We went by it on our way to
• 1:16:15
  to um a restaurant on the the thursday night
• 1:16:20
  The the one that was down in the romantic. It was that same day. It was the same day. His yacht was was docked
• 1:16:26
  It's yeah, we went by it. It was that thursday night. It was there
• 1:16:30
  Yeah
• 1:16:32
  If you're messing with my whatsapp, you know, yeah, I'm coming for you. I'm you got pockets and and lawyers like deep pockets
• 1:16:41
  Yeah, absolutely, man, uh, it's always good to see you're good good to reconnect with you
• 1:16:46
  What's the best place for people to to to find your work to find your book?
• 1:16:51
  We last time you were on we spoke about your book. Yeah, the book
• 1:16:54
  Well, the book is I mean the book is still out there and still blowing minds
• 1:16:59
  And that's at the library of kern.com kern is a c e r n e
• 1:17:04
  It has absolutely nothing to do with the large a dron collider folks
• 1:17:08
  Kern c e r n e is actually the real
• 1:17:13
  ancient historical name
• 1:17:15
  of atlantis
• 1:17:17
  And you'll find out
• 1:17:19
  Why that is the case in the book? There's there's ancient sources
• 1:17:24
  That that describe all of this and no play dough was not the only one that is another
• 1:17:30
  Great big lie about atlantis. I talked about that in uh, yeah at an archipelago the three big lies. They told you about atlantis
• 1:17:37
  Um, but if they want to follow the lawsuit, uh, quite a bit more exciting and and more immediately relevant. I think
• 1:17:44
  Uh, that is at equa bit lawsuit.com
• 1:17:47
  e q u i b i t lawsuit.com and
• 1:17:53
  I am releasing stuff out of my evidence files every monday
• 1:17:59
  Every monday morning. Uh, so the last one that just went out
• 1:18:03
  Uh, I released the the osc tapes. So the tapes
• 1:18:08
  of
• 1:18:09
  Top brass at the ontario securities commissions. You will hear them in their own words trying to entrap me
• 1:18:16
  You're doing it all running companies filing lawsuits writing books. Yeah, basically just admitting on the record that they're there
• 1:18:23
  They're bungling the entire thing as they're going they're they're coming at me without even having read
• 1:18:29
  Any of our offering documents for for for the the coin presale
• 1:18:35
  they're like, yeah
• 1:18:37
  We were like
• 1:18:38
  Because they're asking us some really weird questions
• 1:18:42
  And and my lawyers said well, you know, this is all in the terms and conditions
• 1:18:48
  And then some girl is like comes but responds. Well, we haven't read those
• 1:18:54
  And it literally every single person on my side of the phone call is like what?
• 1:19:02
  You don't even know what this is and you're taking action already like that must have been a hell of an anonymous tip
• 1:19:09
  Yeah, well, I think maybe the point is just to make you insane to to force you to jump through hoops to make you
• 1:19:17
  That is it like to make the person quality they're going insane
• 1:19:22
  Make them look like they're going insane and I mean like yeah, it sounds insane
• 1:19:26
  It sounds insane until you go to equa bit lawsuit.com
• 1:19:30
  Read the stories. I'm posting see the evidence photos audio video
• 1:19:37
  If I'm coming at you
• 1:19:40
  In court it's because I've already won
• 1:19:43
  That's how
• 1:19:44
  Big four auditors operate if we're coming at you
• 1:19:48
  We can already prove our case beyond a reasonable doubt
• 1:19:52
  This is not a trial. This is an execution
• 1:19:55
  Yeah, well, they
• 1:19:58
  Probably picked the wrong
• 1:19:59
  Person to to come at you're about the most detail oriented guy
• 1:20:04
  I know and you've got a long track record of despising the government. So
• 1:20:09
  Everybody can follow your your justifiably. I think yeah, I hope people see that
• 1:20:15
  I hope they can see that now
• 1:20:17
  I'll put the links down in the show notes so that everybody can
• 1:20:21
  Follow your
• 1:20:22
  Follow the trial and see how it's going and of course, well, I'll fill people in. Yeah, I mentioned media suppression. So
• 1:20:28
  folks share share share hit that share button on everything
• 1:20:34
  Because especially if you're in canada, especially in canada because no journalist is going to do this for you
• 1:20:41
  In canada. Yeah, none. I've tried
• 1:20:45
  Yeah, we know the only good journalist in canada. That's dan dex and he's at an archipelago every year
• 1:20:51
  That's chris horlacher. Everybody you can support his outstanding work. Go click the links
• 1:20:56
  I'll put down in the show notes if you want to follow me activist post calm macro aggressions.io. Those are the websites
• 1:21:02
  Thanks, everybody. We will talk to you again soon