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- 0:15Welcome to Barbara Cuts, Beats and bars.
- 0:17We're a father to daughter music podcast that slices into some of
- 0:20the greatest albums, one cut at a time.
- 0:22With no industry ties or formal training, just a shared love of
- 0:25music, we explore albums across genres, rating favorites and
- 0:30skips while digging into what makes each one iconic.
- 0:33I bring the beats. And I bring the bars and
- 0:36together we deliver real talk and fresh takes from both sides
- 0:39of the sound. Hey everybody, I'm Riley.
- 0:41And I'm Don, and welcome to this week's episode of Barbara Cuts,
- 0:45where this week we're talking about Purple Rain from Prince
- 0:50and the Revolution at the Time 1984 album.
- 0:54So I think though, before we get into it, Riley, do you have some
- 1:00concert news that you wanted to talk about or are you going to
- 1:03talk about that later in the episode?
- 1:05We'll get into it later in the episode.
- 1:07But just again, a reminder, we don't 100% prepare for these
- 1:14other than a outline. So just want everyone.
- 1:19It's it's, it's, it's authentic when we when we chat and we try
- 1:25to keep it that way so that reactions are as good as they
- 1:29can be or as bad as they can be. So in that case, weren't let's
- 1:36go to least favorites from Prince and the Revolutions
- 1:41Purple Rain Go rally. So OK, so one of my least
- 1:45favorites was the beautiful ones.
- 1:49It was a lot slower than a lot of the other songs I noticed
- 1:55rested on his very high pitched vocals in this song, which just
- 2:01wasn't my favorite. He has he has decently high
- 2:05register like to begin with, he just has a high boy.
- 2:08And when he plays with like his range, I really like it.
- 2:11But he kind of stayed in, I would call it a falsetto like
- 2:15that, just really high pitched, like breathy.
- 2:19It's very head singing and all of that.
- 2:21And I'm not a big I'm I'm using all the techno, technical music
- 2:25terms. I know it's it's.
- 2:26Like it's like he's already got a high voice and then he goes
- 2:30into that high falsetto like he. Yeah.
- 2:34For Male, he's really getting up there.
- 2:36It's a, it's a very heady voice, so it's very breathy.
- 2:40I, I tend to like a, a chest voice a lot more.
- 2:46I think both of us do, we tend to like stronger vocals.
- 2:51Chess voice is also usually where you get like that jazzy
- 2:54swap kind of sound. Like it's that very rich voice.
- 2:57He he just didn't like play with that range as much with the
- 3:00song. And so before you, before you go
- 3:03on to your next one, were you about to move on?
- 3:06Oh, yes, yeah. OK.
- 3:07It seems like you are. I was just going to say I that
- 3:10was one of my least favorites as well.
- 3:12And my note was it slowed way down from the first two.
- 3:16And normally for me, I would have moved on because it it did.
- 3:21But because we're listening through the album and given our
- 3:24takes on it, I've obviously played it all the way through.
- 3:27And I will say though the last minute or so of the song isn't
- 3:31bad. Where he does get into that, I
- 3:33don't know what to call it. That mix of what you were
- 3:36calling chesty falsetto, wailing, sadness.
- 3:42And and it's not quite it it's controlled screaming maybe is a
- 3:47is a good way to put it so it like doesn't hurt your ears, but
- 3:52it just it takes too long to get there in the song.
- 3:55And I would have, I would have moved on if I was just listening
- 3:59to it, but that was also one of my least favorites and we kind
- 4:02of agreed on the reason. And I wanted also talk about
- 4:06that last minute though, because it that last minute I think was
- 4:08pretty good. Yeah, I I agree.
- 4:10There are quite a few songs on this album speaking to that that
- 4:14like I thought parts of it were really good and then parts of it
- 4:19ruined it and ruined is a very tough word.
- 4:23Made it a little more like, I wish I could take this one part
- 4:26out and I think it would still be good.
- 4:29I mean, they're it's 9 songs in almost 45 minutes.
- 4:34Like they're long songs usually like.
- 4:37Computer Blue. Computer Blue.
- 4:40The first time I listened to it, I wasn't a huge fan of it.
- 4:42I didn't like the speaking at the beginning.
- 4:43It kind of like took you out of it.
- 4:46The speaking with like let's go like the Speaking of other parts
- 4:49made sense, but computer blue just got out of place and the IT
- 4:54made me a little weird, but I that that ended up not being my
- 4:59least favorite. But I'm trying to talk about it
- 5:00because my least favorite was darling Nikki, but I
- 5:04respectfully refused to talk about that with you.
- 5:07So. Perfect.
- 5:09I'm going to leave it. Yeah.
- 5:12That that is just because we are talking about it like that is
- 5:16one of the songs that kick started the whole parental
- 5:20advisory stickers that you see on albums and when you go to
- 5:25stores now. That was one of the that was one
- 5:27of the albums that kick started that.
- 5:30If you are above the age of 18, go go.
- 5:34Just experience it with no if you're if you're under 18 and
- 5:39don't listen to it. Yeah, which is mainly the
- 5:44recording artist's argument against putting the stickers on
- 5:48it. It's like, hey, you put that
- 5:50sticker on it. You're telling every kid under
- 5:5218 buy this album, which as any parent knows, and you've been
- 5:58around kids babysitting and watching kids enough to know if
- 6:02you want. Like, if you don't want a kid to
- 6:04do something, don't tell them not to do it.
- 6:07Yeah, well, instantly go do it. But anyway.
- 6:10There's also, there's also a lot of there's a lot, but darn.
- 6:13And Mickey, oh boy, does it. Does it surprise you?
- 6:17Yeah, it does. So.
- 6:20So I already mentioned one of my least favorites with the
- 6:24beautiful, beautiful ones. The other one of mine was
- 6:27Computer Blue and again, not sure there's any real reason
- 6:33other than for both of these. Like it just didn't do enough
- 6:36for me to like or you know, in the ratings of these songs like
- 6:41any other way. The only thing that I will be
- 6:44taking out of Computer Blue is find a way for to go grab an MP3
- 6:52of the computer voice that says yes Lisa and that will be my
- 6:57ringtone for Mama Barber and her tone.
- 7:02Yes, Lisa. Her name is Lisa, in case anyone
- 7:05was wondering. That's that's.
- 7:06Funny, I I would hope they would make that connection.
- 7:09I don't know, we just talked about kids under people under
- 7:1218. Maybe a one year old is
- 7:14listening to this and can understand everything else but
- 7:18critical thinking that's so. Yeah.
- 7:21So maybe. That's why it makes me feel a
- 7:23little uncomfortable, because it's my mom's name.
- 7:26Yeah, like. The the the computer and and
- 7:28even the computer blue one like in, in stuff that I saw like
- 7:31there, there's a computer blue version.
- 7:34It's like 14 minutes long that. Yeah.
- 7:37You know, a lot of these were edited down and you know, we'll
- 7:43talk about this later, but this was a, a movie soundtrack, so
- 7:47there was some editing to get some of the stuff to, to fit
- 7:51with the soundtrack of the movie too, so.
- 7:53I will also say computer blue does so it ended up it was close
- 7:59to one of my least favorites, but it does deserve credit for
- 8:01the like the no, no, no, no, no, no, like that like weird little
- 8:08beat that it has. I, I, I don't know.
- 8:11I love that little. It like it feels like a it feels
- 8:15like a movie. It feels like a A.
- 8:16Video game. Yeah, yeah.
- 8:18And. I I just thoroughly enjoy that
- 8:20part. And, and and to your point of
- 8:23there's there's bits and pieces in each of these songs.
- 8:26So it's like, oh, I like that. Oh, I don't like that.
- 8:28Oh, I like that. I don't like that.
- 8:30But all right, so least favorites out of the way, Riley,
- 8:34What about the favorite songs? So my favorites where actually
- 8:43the first and the last song, which it means that it was a
- 8:47pretty good album in my opinion. If you've listened to any of the
- 8:51other ones, I you gotta have a strong opener and you gotta have
- 8:54a strong end or this album does that.
- 8:58So I'll talk about the first one, which is let's go crazy.
- 9:03It's just such, it's a, it's a fun song, but if you read the
- 9:07lyrics, it's a little like not fun at times.
- 9:11It talks and it kind of opens it up.
- 9:14It it's just a very good intro song to kind of explain parts of
- 9:19the album. It was very 80s, very 80s.
- 9:24It almost had a little bit of like a old time gospel feel and
- 9:28the sense of like yelling at the crowd and like wanting that
- 9:32response. And he he even talks about like
- 9:35he's coming. I don't think this is the one
- 9:37where he can all do something. Messiah.
- 9:39I don't think so, but he does say like, he's coming, like take
- 9:45me away. It's all like this very almost
- 9:48apocalyptic song, but a lyric that I thought was funny was,
- 9:54well, not funny, but funny given the context of how upbeat this
- 9:58song is. It was, we're all excited, but
- 10:01we don't know why. Maybe it's 'cause we're all
- 10:03gonna die. And like, that caught me so off
- 10:05guard 'cause I'm, I'm like this kind of happy song.
- 10:10And it's like, well, poppy song. It's just upbeat.
- 10:13It feels fun to listen to. And then I was like reading
- 10:16through some of the lyrics and that one called me so off guard.
- 10:19But it follows it up with you better live now before the Grim
- 10:22Reaper comes knocking on your door.
- 10:24And so it goes back to that kind of what the song feels like of
- 10:27like live to the fullest. You know, that kind of seems to
- 10:30be the message of like, yeah, live now, live to the fullest.
- 10:36And talks a lot about like the elevator and I think that's
- 10:41really funny. My other favorite was Purple
- 10:46Rain. So going with most popular, I I
- 10:50think this is his most popular song.
- 10:54It's the one I knew of and had heard the chorus of, but I had
- 11:00never listened to the whole song before.
- 11:04It's long. And again, nor nor would you
- 11:07most of the time because you would hear it on the radio
- 11:10potentially and it's drastically cut down on the radio.
- 11:14Yeah, so it's long, it's like 9 minutes, and there's a lot of
- 11:19instrumental I so I looked up the meaning of Purple Rain
- 11:26playing by Prince. It was kind of like this
- 11:29apocalyptic end world. It was like the blood mixed with
- 11:34the sky creates purple and I don't even know if I know what
- 11:40that means based on his description but I ended up with
- 11:43apocalyptic type end world situation.
- 11:46Is this full ring? That's what I got too.
- 11:50Or the afterlife apocalyptic. It's kind of a mixture of that.
- 11:54And so seeing the lyrics from that perspective of wanting to
- 12:00see someone in that purple rain thriving almost, seeing them
- 12:05thrive in this end world times, it's very different than just
- 12:10singing Purple Rain. I still very much enjoyed it and
- 12:14I think that adds something to it.
- 12:16I can 100% see why Purple Rain became like this anthem song
- 12:22because I mean, the the parts where he sings Purple Rain, I
- 12:26mean, it gets caught in your head.
- 12:29It's like it sounds nice. Anyone can sing it.
- 12:32It's not super high, it's not super low.
- 12:35Anything that had The Color Purple.
- 12:37Like I can 100% see why this song became what it is, but I do
- 12:43think there's a little bit of disservice to that because I
- 12:47don't think many people know what they're singing or know the
- 12:50message. And I think it's a neat message.
- 12:53And I think that's a little bit of a disservice to any song that
- 12:56becomes super big. But really in in this one.
- 13:01Also, like you said, with the radio cutting it short, the way
- 13:05the instruments instruments play a role in this song.
- 13:08I know I'm not the beats person, but the way the instruments play
- 13:12a role is very interesting. There's almost, we talked about
- 13:17it a little bit, but parts of it reminded me of the Pixies.
- 13:21And then never mind where it does like this loud, soft, loud,
- 13:25like the instruments kind of change in between each vocals
- 13:29between like building versus dropping versus building again.
- 13:32And it does it throughout the song and it kind of takes you on
- 13:35a journey in the song. Even though the lyrics are very
- 13:41repetitive, they don't get too deep.
- 13:44It allows you to kind of feel along with the song.
- 13:48Yeah, and a nine minute song doesn't get too boring.
- 13:52Your parts where it gets a little bit, but yeah, I mean
- 13:56it's a 9 minute song. So, yeah, and, and you know,
- 13:59I'll go ahead and say Purple Rain is one of my favorites as
- 14:02well. So I'll, I'll add on some things
- 14:04here as to what you're saying the the on the on the beat music
- 14:10side of it. Again, it's this album's full of
- 14:14it. So you mentioned let's go crazy.
- 14:16Purple Rain is 1. There are some very iconic
- 14:20openings to songs that come from this album.
- 14:24This is one of them. You you hear the that guitar
- 14:27strum and you instantly know that's Purple rain.
- 14:32But it's got that slow and melodic opening.
- 14:35But the song builds throughout, not throughout the entire song,
- 14:43at least on on the album, the the 8-9 minute version, but it
- 14:48does start to build and the chorus when it finally does come
- 14:53in and the performance got a nice harmony to it.
- 14:57But yet, even though as the song is building and still follow,
- 15:01still does some of the loud, soft, loud that you're talking
- 15:03about even, which is neat because it's building, but yet
- 15:08it's still taking things out and adding things in, which is very
- 15:14nice. And then he's also got a a
- 15:18called it here, a guttural wailing at one point, you know,
- 15:22and that that we've talked about.
- 15:23Like you can hear the distress in his voice and with him
- 15:26talking about it being some apocalyptic Purple Rain event,
- 15:30the distress makes sense. Like something bad is happening.
- 15:34And I want this to to be all OK. We are, you know, whatever the
- 15:39the lyrics are there. So that distress makes sense
- 15:41that it wouldn't happen. And then, you know, the ending
- 15:46of it like you talked about. Yeah.
- 15:48It's Spotify where we're listening to them and so it's 8
- 15:53minutes, 41 seconds to be exact. So it does go on longer than
- 15:56your radio edit. And are there parts that could
- 16:00be removed? OK, yeah, I'll give you that.
- 16:03You know, it's probably almost cut in half for the radio edit
- 16:06maybe. But I think musically the and I
- 16:11put in quotes in my notes the dying of the song because it
- 16:15reaches that climax and then the instrumental instrumental part
- 16:19at the end starts to take things away.
- 16:23And so it's almost like it has hit that apocalyptic event in
- 16:29the middle ish toward the end of the song.
- 16:32And then it it start the song itself starts to die.
- 16:36I'm hearing quotes and it really better portrays what the rest of
- 16:40the song is about lyrically. Musically it follows the same
- 16:45thing which which I think you miss in the radio edit.
- 16:49But if you give this 9 minutes a listen you may hear that and
- 16:54it's really neat to see what what what Prince did there.
- 16:57So thought I'd add just stuff that I was thinking of and feel
- 17:02free to the. The distress comes from, so it's
- 17:08all about wanting to see someone and be with someone during the
- 17:11same time. So it almost comes across as
- 17:13like till death do us part. Like I want to be there with
- 17:16you, but something happened and I messed it up and now I'm not
- 17:20gonna be there and it's my fault and you need to like it.
- 17:24It kind of talks about it's all time we reach out for something
- 17:27new that means you too. So it's like it's kind of
- 17:30talking about how these paths are growing apart and he's
- 17:33trying to get people to the Purple Rain and he wants to see
- 17:38that person there, and that's just not gonna happen.
- 17:41And that's where like this distress comes from.
- 17:43And so full Full disclosure, I have not seen the movie that I
- 17:49remember either. And, and I'd love like I added
- 17:54it to my watch list of fun time to go and watch at some point
- 17:57now that I've re listened to the album and and for some like I'd
- 18:01love to see where and how Purple Rain fits into the the story of
- 18:09it. You know, at A at a high level,
- 18:12I I know it, it's about two quote rival musicians going
- 18:17after the the same girl. And again, that's super high
- 18:21level from from what I can see on the Internet.
- 18:24But so I'd love to see how some of these songs that are such
- 18:29iconic songs, how they fit into in into the movie itself.
- 18:33But this is another one of those that it's really hard not to
- 18:36like the song, you know, But any anything else on that one for a
- 18:43move on to my other favorite one.
- 18:45No, no, I got it. So my other favorite and and it
- 18:49was a toss up between Let's Go crazy and for me when I ended up
- 18:54with was when Doves cry again mentioned iconic openings.
- 18:59This is another one everybody's going to know, or I say
- 19:03everybody, lots of people are going to know the opening of the
- 19:06song. And one of the things, again,
- 19:10never really picked up on it until I was doing the research
- 19:14for this episode and realized that it doesn't have a baseline.
- 19:18So there's no bass to it. There was one, but he took it
- 19:24out because Prince thought it made the song sound too normal.
- 19:28So, you know, you can go back and listen to When Doves Cry and
- 19:33realized sure enough, yeah, of course, like he's not lying.
- 19:38But yeah, there's no no bass line there.
- 19:41And then the right around like the again, fairly long song 5,
- 19:47you know, 5 minutes, 54 seconds. So right around the five minute
- 19:50mark, there's a synthesizer solo that is really good.
- 19:56And then at the very end of the song, there's this little run up
- 20:00and the keyboard. Does this start at a low?
- 20:03And it and it's and it's not like and you know, I took piano
- 20:07lessons for years and anybody listens to this that knows that
- 20:12would be so upset with me. But you know, when you take your
- 20:16hands and, you know, run up the keyboard, it's not that it's a
- 20:20particular and goes to the end, which I thought that was kind of
- 20:26neat too. So Purple Rain and When Doves
- 20:30cry are my two favorite and yes, I'm part of the pop crowd
- 20:36because those are is to most stream.
- 20:40But as I listen to the album, it's like, OK, Yep, just just
- 20:43keep going back to these two over and over again is the ones
- 20:46that I like. So, you know, baseline is
- 20:48interesting, but it makes sense to me.
- 20:51The the reason Cause so to me, again, no musical knowledge
- 20:56whatsoever, but to me, a, a drum is kind of a guiding beat.
- 21:02Usually there's always gonna be like the don't, don't, don't,
- 21:06don't in the background that if you listen really closely, you
- 21:08can find. But a bass is usually a unifying
- 21:13beat. So it makes sense that taking it
- 21:16out makes it sound weird. Cause usually a bass is also
- 21:19pretty repetitive, pretty low usually and it kind of brings
- 21:23the sounds all together. I I mean it makes sense that he
- 21:28would take it out to make it sound a little off, but.
- 21:33It's, it's, it's all, it's often times the, the drums
- 21:37specifically that, that kick drum, you know, that, that big
- 21:42bass drum that's in the middle that they drummers play with
- 21:45their feet that and, and you know, of course the rest of the
- 21:50drums, but often times they do the fills.
- 21:54But that and that and that baseline, they usually provide a
- 21:57foundation that all your other instruments can build on and do
- 22:02whatever they want to and change rhythms.
- 22:05And sometimes those two just kind of keep that same clock
- 22:10ticking for for them to hear, for the musicians to hear that
- 22:14to where they can come back to it whenever they need to.
- 22:18And so yeah, to to go without one when you.
- 22:21And when I went back and listened to it after I saw that,
- 22:23I was like, Oh yeah, that is that is neat.
- 22:26And and I can see I wouldn't. So I wonder cause 'cause in
- 22:30music production it's very different and you worded that
- 22:34way better than I did, so thank you for that.
- 22:36But I wonder if this song is like miserable to play live
- 22:41because there is not that bass line like you said like most of
- 22:45the time there is like that track that you can go back to.
- 22:48Yeah. And find and that's usually in
- 22:50the bass liner drums. So I want, I wonder if this song
- 22:53is like, oh, I don't want to play it live because I have to
- 22:57get it right. Yeah, this is the one where the
- 22:59bass guy goes off and takes a break while everybody else keeps
- 23:02playing. They don't them are the poor
- 23:05drummers. Golly watch.
- 23:06Watch them during concerts. I love watching the drums.
- 23:11Bless them. They don't get that.
- 23:12They never. Get a break and they're just
- 23:14hands wailing their entire time. Especially if they if they're
- 23:19getting into it, yeah. And if you look at a if you look
- 23:21at a bassist, watch a bassist face when they're doing things
- 23:25guitar do it too, but mostly bass.
- 23:27Like they look in pain when they're like really getting into
- 23:31it, like they get really stiff and they're like faces you can't
- 23:35see. Nobody can see me, but they get
- 23:37really she's. Mimicking what she's talking
- 23:39about. Look so in pain and like I just
- 23:43am in in awe like they're I love watching faces 'cause their
- 23:47bodies start moving like they're not controlling it and it just
- 23:51it's so much fun to watch. Yeah.
- 23:53And and the other, the other one that I want to mention just
- 23:56before we go on, you know this is this is from the 80s.
- 24:01So it's it's mainly a pop album. Like there's, there's some other
- 24:04undertones there of R&B and funk and soul and things like that.
- 24:10But it's it's probably by far pop album and it's definitely
- 24:1580s. And so got a shout out to Mama
- 24:20Barber and I Would Die for you. Like that song makes her think
- 24:25of roller skating, which probably everybody that my age
- 24:29is like, Oh yeah, I know they're rolling the roller rink.
- 24:33Easy for me to say. The roller rink where I'm going.
- 24:36And Prince is jamming, blasting through the speakers and I'm.
- 24:41That is the one where he says that he's he's your Messiah.
- 24:44So. That's what I was thinking of.
- 24:47But that one, that one was my third favorite.
- 24:49I really liked that song. It's fun.
- 24:51Yeah, those, those last four as I'm looking at them.
- 24:55When doves cry, I would die for you, baby, I'm a Star and Purple
- 24:59Rain. Those four really good, like
- 25:01Baby, Maybe I'm a Star is is one of the lesser streamed ones.
- 25:06But the more I listen to it, the more I was like, man, that's a
- 25:09that's a underrated song and it's really good.
- 25:12So yeah. But yeah, I also wanted to make
- 25:19it make it known this is definitely a old school roller
- 25:23skating album full of roller skating songs.
- 25:26So that being said, besides when you strap on the roller skates,
- 25:32why would you want to listen to the song?
- 25:35Break your tail. Dislocate your tailbone.
- 25:38Yeah, now why would anybody roller skating do that, Riley?
- 25:42Oh, that's because she did. On the tennis.
- 25:45Court and. I proceeded to roof on it for a
- 25:49whole summer. Girl power.
- 25:51Oh, I mean, you kind of talked about it like talk about iconic
- 25:56intros, iconic songs. I would say.
- 25:59So Prince for me, I, I knew of Prince, obviously, I don't think
- 26:05most people, I think most people do know.
- 26:08And to me he is akin in some ways to Michael Jackson and that
- 26:15he became just as famous as his music.
- 26:19He he became like this pop icon that to me was different than
- 26:27what we had seen before. I mean, we had seen The Beatles
- 26:30craze, we had seen Elvis Presley fit craze and all of that.
- 26:34But I mean, Prince just became this almost different entity,
- 26:40almost he he just went beyond generations and ages and like he
- 26:48randomly appeared a New Girl at that's a random thing started
- 26:52back this album in particular. And I'm going more on a Prince
- 26:56tangent than anything, but he he just became a defining character
- 27:02in music and a defining character outside of music, just
- 27:06as a person. And he's one of the bigger
- 27:11examples that we've seen of that.
- 27:12One of the first kind of examples where we've seen of
- 27:14that where he becomes so much bigger than just his music, just
- 27:17his music. Whereas like The Beatles and
- 27:20Elvis, most of it was on the scandal of it.
- 27:24Elvis was scandalous in his movements and it was a lot of
- 27:27young girls that was his population and they liked him
- 27:30because they felt rebelling. The Beatles music was a little
- 27:34bit more rebellious because it was like this hippie anti anti
- 27:38establishment almost and it's a little way.
- 27:43Whereas Prince just made fun music most of the time he just
- 27:46kind of made this pop music. He became like this.
- 27:48I would I would say just lovable figure all things considered,
- 27:54and he's just one of the first examples of that.
- 27:57But this album kind of solidifies that image with the
- 28:01songs being this high energy, fun music.
- 28:06Followed up with Purple Rain. It has a little bit, not gonna
- 28:11harp on this, but darling Nikki kind of emphasizes like his kind
- 28:15of heartthrob status that he he did have on people and it just
- 28:21kind of reaches all the different points of what made
- 28:25him so big. Yeah.
- 28:28And, you know, to me, as I was, you know, looking at it, I was
- 28:32like, OK, Prince, which is, like you said, a name that so many
- 28:38people recognize. But yet again, most of ours are
- 28:44on, you know, we're, we're Spotify people.
- 28:48And so Purple Rain is his most streamed and it's 575,000,000.
- 28:53He doesn't have 1 / a billion streams, which I found, I found
- 28:58strange, you know, given when I hear the name Prince, I'm like,
- 29:03Oh yeah, this song and this song and this song, this song and you
- 29:06can name these songs. So I did find that odd.
- 29:09But, you know, talking specifically about Purple Rain,
- 29:14this is the Prince album. Yeah, he's got obviously other
- 29:21albums and some other ones that have got some great songs on
- 29:24them. The the closest one, you know,
- 29:26Purple Rain song is his most streamed kisses right behind it
- 29:32at 519. But you know, when Doves cries
- 29:37over 300 million, let's go crazy.
- 29:39He's right at 150 million. So those are some big songs.
- 29:46And so this album itself, so June of 1984, and we mentioned
- 29:54it's a soundtrack movie, the same name, starring Prince.
- 29:59It was his first album to reach #1 on the Billboard 200.
- 30:04It's been 24 consecutive weeks at #1.
- 30:09So half a year at #1 and then it was present on the chart.
- 30:17I saw a couple different numbers.
- 30:18One said I think 122 weeks, another one said 167 weeks.
- 30:23So for almost three years, it was ranked on the Billboard Top
- 30:30200, which is crazy When Doves Cry and Let's Go Crazy both
- 30:35reach #1 on the Billboard Hot 100, Purple Rain, reach #2 and I
- 30:41would Die for you reach #8. It won the album 1-2 Grammys,
- 30:46also won an Academy Award for best original song score.
- 30:51And at the time, Prince joined two other pretty big names.
- 30:55You've already mentioned Elvis and The Beatles as being the
- 30:59only artist to have a number one album, a number one single and a
- 31:06number one film at the box office in the US all at the same
- 31:10time. So all in like the same weekend,
- 31:14which is crazy. I think there's been a couple
- 31:16other since then, but that was hard to nail down.
- 31:20And also just to throw in all of that, it was it also was
- 31:26actually fighting with another album at the time that was
- 31:29massively popular and that was in in a completely different
- 31:33genre. So Born in the USA by Bruce
- 31:36Springsteen was in 1984. So those two albums were
- 31:41essentially fighting back and forth, you know, and for this
- 31:44one to have all these accolades is, is quite impressive.
- 31:49And, and we do have a Springsteen album on our list,
- 31:52but it's not that one. So 2010, the album was inducted
- 31:57in the Grammy Hall of Fame. 2012, it was added to the
- 32:00Library of Congress's National Recording Registry.
- 32:04The film was added to the National Film Registry in 2019.
- 32:08It's #8 on the Rolling Stone Top 500 Albums and the 2024 Apple
- 32:14Music 100 Best Albums poll ranked it as #1 So you want to
- 32:22know why to go listen to it? Because everybody else in the
- 32:26world probably has. So if you haven't listened to
- 32:30it, you are definitely in the minority.
- 32:33I would. Think yeah, that was that was
- 32:35so. That was that was me so.
- 32:39You're not anymore. Not anymore.
- 32:41Not anymore. Welcome to.
- 32:43The Revolution, Yes, that was a bad joke.
- 32:48Most of you all Mama Pod and Papa Pod really enjoyed Prince
- 32:56and I really knew that Mama Pod really loves Prince because my I
- 33:03remember this, this week, the only experience I had with
- 33:07Prince other than the chorus of Purple Rain, which I would say
- 33:10the course of Purple Rain is not the majority of Prince.
- 33:14I would say the only experience I had of him was driving in the
- 33:22car back from midtown. I'm I'm explaining this, you'll
- 33:26know what I'm saying on getting on that Interstate, being in the
- 33:29back roads and everything. And Raspberry Beret comes on and
- 33:34Mama pod is like, I used to love this song turns it on, starts
- 33:39singing every word of it. And I'm sitting in the front
- 33:41seat thinking my mom has gone insane because what is this?
- 33:45I really did not like craft favorite.
- 33:48I was still not a huge fan, but I was this would have been mid
- 33:52teens, so it wouldn't weigh out there for me.
- 33:58And I just remember being like, this is what?
- 34:01Like it. It was probably the first time
- 34:03it hit me like the 80s really were a different time listening
- 34:07to Raspberry Beret and hearing like, oh, this is what was
- 34:11popular. Yeah.
- 34:13So that's what I was going into this album with.
- 34:16And I was like, oh, brother, this, this might be bad.
- 34:21And I I listened to it and I really enjoyed it.
- 34:26I mean, it's very 80s. It's still very much a different
- 34:30time for music. But it like you said with with
- 34:34all the accolades that it has, it made history.
- 34:37Yeah. You have to listen to it right?
- 34:40Like this isn't a debatable album.
- 34:42Yeah, And I would say this, this album is, for me, a good
- 34:46personal opinion. This is quintessential 80s
- 34:49music. Like, yeah, this.
- 34:51Of course. Were there other genres in the
- 34:5380s? Absolutely.
- 34:55But when? When most people say, oh, 80s
- 34:59music, did you like 80s music or did you not?
- 35:02This is one of those ones that is like, Yep, this is what
- 35:06people are talking about. Madonna is another one that's in
- 35:09there that had some like quintessential 80s type of
- 35:12stuff. And you know, just for those
- 35:15that listen to this entire episode from the cliffhanger of
- 35:19how many 80s albums have we reviewed from last time?
- 35:23It's a trick question because we have recorded only one and it
- 35:27was the cure from 1989, but we've talked about another 1
- 35:32from 1980 that we hadn't recorded yet.
- 35:35But so I won't mention what it is.
- 35:38But so we haven't done too many in the in the 80s.
- 35:42So and none really with this quintessential what I'm calling
- 35:4680s eighties sounds. So it, it, it's, it's definitely
- 35:51there. So next, what'd you rate it?
- 35:55Given all of that, what did you rate it?
- 35:58Rally. Given all that, objectively, I'm
- 36:01really gonna have to give it a 10.
- 36:04I like, I mean, it's, it's a brilliant album.
- 36:11I mean, we've, we talked about parts being too long and taking
- 36:15them out, but like that, I don't feel like I could take them out.
- 36:18Even if it's like personal preference.
- 36:20I feel like they have to be in there in this, this way.
- 36:23And with it being this, this music soundtrack, I can I can
- 36:27picture how parts work out and where they fit and where the
- 36:31instrumentals even fit and all of that very vividly.
- 36:35So if we go back to our original definition of like, objectively
- 36:38good, did they get what they wanted to get done?
- 36:41I mean, yeah. I, I would imagine it would be
- 36:43even better in a a movie setting than just listening through the
- 36:46album because you really get to see those instrumentals shine.
- 36:52And going along with it being a quintessential 80s album, it's
- 36:57it may not be my taste, but it's hard to dock something that kind
- 37:01of like defines an era. Yeah, true.
- 37:03Of music, but for personal taste I rated it A7.
- 37:08I really liked it a lot more than I thought I did or thought
- 37:12I would. 80s music is still not my thing, but I would say I
- 37:17definitely got like 3 or 4 songs that I will pull and listen to
- 37:21like of my own volition again and really enjoy.
- 37:25And that's, that's big for it being an 80s album for my taste
- 37:30in music, that's that's a big thing.
- 37:32Yeah, funnily enough, I am the exact same personal 7 objective
- 37:3910. Really just what you're talking
- 37:42about it it's that's what we've talked about.
- 37:45It's it's it's hard and it's hard not to give it a 10
- 37:50personally. Yeah, it's not my Super Cup of
- 37:53tea. And maybe with most or with a
- 37:57lot of 80s music and, and we talked about this before I'm I
- 38:03may not ever actively go and search out one of these songs to
- 38:07listen to. Usually for most of the Prince
- 38:11songs when they come in like, Oh yeah, I like the song.
- 38:14And I would sing along, you know, and, and remembered most
- 38:20of the lyrics, especially of the popular ones, as soon as they
- 38:24came on, you know, and, and so it was, it was nice to, you
- 38:31know, relive through that a little bit.
- 38:33So. So that was neat.
- 38:35Not to get not to get cheesy or sappy, but oh boy would I listen
- 38:41to these songs 10 times over to see Mama pods excitement when
- 38:46any when any a Prince song comes on, it's like a she's like a she
- 38:50goes on autopilot. She's like, I know this song.
- 38:53She starts singing every word. She does a little dance.
- 38:56She gets so excited. It's like the child, like joy
- 38:58just comes back and it's it's so.
- 39:00Much child in her kicks in, and she's just.
- 39:02Like so fun to see. You know, yeah, she.
- 39:05Just gets so excited. Big hairdo pops out all of a
- 39:08sudden. Oh yeah.
- 39:09Straps those roller skates on. So Riley, what is now?
- 39:16We got done with ratings? What's the best bar, best lyric
- 39:20from this album? So mine was from Let's Go Crazy.
- 39:23And it was the part where he sings Doctor, everything will be
- 39:29all right. We'll make everything go wrong.
- 39:31Hills and thrills and daffodils will kill.
- 39:33Hey, tough children, He's coming.
- 39:35He's coming. Take me Away.
- 39:38I mean, again, that's an upbeat sounding song.
- 39:42What the heck? Where did that come from?
- 39:45Yeah, but the the message of I think it's a beautiful message
- 39:49when he, when anyone talks about the people who say everything
- 39:53will be all right, like that's respectfully bull.
- 39:57It's like, I mean, that's just not comforting.
- 40:01It's one of those cardinal sins of comforting someone who's
- 40:03like, oh, everything will work out.
- 40:05And it's like, no, that's not how it like you can't promise
- 40:09that to me. And usually the people saying
- 40:12everything will work out are the people who who like are adding
- 40:15to the chaos of it. And and I think that's just a
- 40:20great message. And I think the line where pills
- 40:24and thrills and I found it interesting that he included in
- 40:27daffodils will kill. I don't know.
- 40:30I'm sure there's a reason. I don't know the reason.
- 40:32I don't know if that's 'cause it's a weed.
- 40:35That was the connection I'll kill.
- 40:39But then he just kind of goes into this Hank Tuffled string.
- 40:43He's coming, takes me. And it's like this beautiful
- 40:47ending to like this opening song.
- 40:49Like Hank Tuff, you got it. I'm gone so.
- 40:54My my best beat for me, actually, if you were listening
- 41:00to Let's Go Crazy, would come maybe 20 seconds after your
- 41:05lyrics end. And it was so around 3:40.
- 41:11You know, the song has been building.
- 41:12It sounds like it sounds like it's about to end.
- 41:16And then at exactly 352, it gives the, you know, Big Bang
- 41:23ending, but yet you hear the guitar note in that end keep
- 41:29going. And then it kicks in immediately
- 41:32into a guitar solo that is only guitar.
- 41:35There's no other music going. And that's really neat because
- 41:40that guitar work stands out, only lasts about 20 seconds, and
- 41:45then rebuilds back into the actual ending.
- 41:47And so I just thought that was a neat use of the music and, you
- 41:55know, growing to what seems like an end, a false end.
- 41:59And then I have a guitar solo where it's so focused on the
- 42:02guitar, no other music, no other voices, anything going.
- 42:08So that was neat to me. Alright, Riley, what was your
- 42:13song of the week? I'll talk This goes into the
- 42:16concert. My Son of the Week was just
- 42:20about any song by Edge Hill, but if I have to pick a song if
- 42:25there's out of all of them I'll say lol.
- 42:29It just released this past Friday so I'm about to go on an
- 42:33Edge Hill rant. So Edge Hill is a small band in
- 42:38Nashville. And so not too many podcasts
- 42:43ago, you did give an Edge Hill song, right?
- 42:46Yes. So I can't remember if it was I
- 42:50can be your dog or shooting glances.
- 42:53I think you're shooting glances. That was my top one or my song
- 42:57of the week. And some of y'all knew who that
- 43:01was. That was great.
- 43:02But I love edge hill. They're pretty small.
- 43:07They're under 200 K monthly listeners, but they're they're
- 43:09growing. They have a few really big songs
- 43:14and they I mean, I so they don't have that many songs out.
- 43:19I listen to all of them. There's songs that they've
- 43:22released today actually. And when I tell you there's not
- 43:26one that I didn't add to my liked.
- 43:29Like I, I genuinely do not have a song of theirs that I don't
- 43:32like yet. They're an incredible band and I
- 43:36got to see them in concert this week or this past weekend with
- 43:40my good friend Kate. She's also been mentioned friend
- 43:43of the show, friend of the show they were opening for.
- 43:47Technically, she's more than friend of the show.
- 43:49She's roommate of the show. She's.
- 43:52Roommate of the show. She's roommate of half of the
- 43:55show. Yes, but she, we were Edge Hill
- 43:59was opening for the Hail, which she knew.
- 44:03And so it was like this perfect little concert that both of us
- 44:06could go to. And afterwards the hails did
- 44:08amazing. But she was like, Oh my gosh,
- 44:10Edge Hill went crazy. And so she's been listening to
- 44:14them on repeat, too. We're already talking about when
- 44:17we can go to Nashville to see them next.
- 44:20They are just so good and they performed so well.
- 44:26I have a personal, personal choice that when I go to
- 44:30concerts, I only film at most 30 seconds of my favorite song so
- 44:36that I can really be in the moment.
- 44:37So I only have a short clip of Edge Hill performing,
- 44:41unfortunately, but it it just kind of gives an idea.
- 44:46I'll post some of them and the Hales because they did great
- 44:48too. But I had the privilege of
- 44:50talking to the singer for Edge Hill and he's just the nicest
- 44:54guy. I told him that we shouted, I
- 44:57shouted them out and he like pulled up the podcast.
- 45:00It was like, I'm going to listen to it and all of that.
- 45:03Just super nice guy. I can't say enough good things
- 45:06about them. Also on the radar, Rainbow
- 45:11Kitten Surprise album finally releases this week.
- 45:14I talked about that in previous episode 2.
- 45:16Yeah, and so let's go. You had shared your experience
- 45:23with us. And and so brother Barbara was
- 45:25was at home this weekend. And so I was telling him and he
- 45:28and he even said like, that's really neat.
- 45:32You know, I and I I get it. It's at some point as a band,
- 45:37celebrity in general, you, you can't interact with everybody
- 45:40that comes your way. I get it, because there you get
- 45:44to a tipping point where there's just too many people you know.
- 45:48But but for the the smaller ones and artists like for him to do
- 45:54that with you, like OK, that is really cool.
- 45:57And for fans goes a super long way to just like, OK, I love you
- 46:04and your music even more now because you're genuinely a kind
- 46:09person like you. You could have turned your back
- 46:12and walked off and he may have like unfollowed, like ain't
- 46:15listen to that, like very well could have.
- 46:17And that's all in his prerogative.
- 46:19But the fact that he took the time to find it while you're
- 46:22sitting there chatting with him with I'm sure a line and like
- 46:25fault like that's that's just so cool.
- 46:27So. Yeah, they were also.
- 46:29Not out to edge Hill. Yeah, they were also just like
- 46:32chilling in the couches, like where everyone could see them
- 46:36and go talk to them. Like they were just very
- 46:38approachable. I was like, y'all did great.
- 46:40And one of them kind of looked at me like surprised that I was
- 46:43like saying like he just got caught off guard.
- 46:47And he, like I told Kate, he looked at me like he was about
- 46:50to cry. Like it genuinely meant a lot
- 46:52that I said that they did great. He was like, thank you.
- 46:56But yeah, that's one of my favorite things about Knoxville
- 46:58concerts is we have a lot of smaller artists, a lot of the
- 47:02shows that I really enjoy going to have, like they range, but 50
- 47:07people, which was like this one, like it's a very close knit
- 47:11little family to like 300. But even then, almost every
- 47:16artist that I've gone to see has backed their merch table and
- 47:20like stayed hours after the concert to stay and talk to
- 47:24their fans. And it's just really neat to
- 47:26see. But they they were one of the
- 47:29nicest that I've interacted with ever.
- 47:31They just and I everyone seemed to have the same.
- 47:35Yeah, yeah, as the. That was neat to hear that
- 47:38story, so. Shout out edge Hill.
- 47:41Shout out. Lol yeah go get them and listen.
- 47:45Listen. News, all of them.
- 47:47Yeah, and, and we also got to see footage.
- 47:51Brother Barbara went to see Benson Boone in Nashville not
- 47:54too long ago and saw some videos that he had and, and again, from
- 47:59the clips that I saw, fantastic show.
- 48:01So whether or not you're a Benson Boone fan or not, like
- 48:05the show itself, the showmanship is.
- 48:08He's a great performer. And it was the the parts that I
- 48:11saw were really incredible. So if if you are close to a
- 48:16Benson Boone show and on the fence, go go watch it.
- 48:21So my song of the week, also a random one that I stumbled
- 48:27across on Instagram, Carly. Oh, so I guess I may butcher the
- 48:33name. And so sorry.
- 48:34He's from New Zealand and it's boombastic.
- 48:39It's the name of the song. It's a cover of Shaggy.
- 48:43And so the Shaggy version is reggae.
- 48:47This version is not that at all. So Carly is a folk musician, so
- 48:54he in Instagram videos and it sounds like what he does.
- 48:59I think he's got some new musicians along with him, but he
- 49:03is an acoustic guitar and a kick drum.
- 49:06And so he does both of them. But he pushes his acoustic
- 49:12guitar through a pedal, so a Blues pedal.
- 49:17So it gives it a nice sound, gives it a reverb, distorts it
- 49:21quite a bit. So he's got several.
- 49:23So it's not a clean acoustic guitar like you're used to.
- 49:26It does have some, if you go back to listen to Pearl Jam,
- 49:30Nirvana, some of those ones where we talk about The Dirty
- 49:33and clean music. This has got a way more dirty
- 49:35sound to it, at least on on this song.
- 49:39And so it's a bluesy rock rendition of Boombastic.
- 49:45So like, go back if you like White Stripes, go listen to this
- 49:48song because you could hear Jack White doing it.
- 49:54And but yet listening to some of his other music, it's it's not
- 49:58quite that heavy. And so I do see why he calls
- 50:01himself a folk musician. So I really like the song
- 50:06Boombastic. Randomly found it on Instagram
- 50:10and I'm like, OK, let me go find him on Spotify and listen to the
- 50:13whole song. It's like, that's really good.
- 50:16So Carly also in past nice, my song of the wing, random artists
- 50:24that you run across on Instagram.
- 50:27Speaking of Instagram. Oh, what a transition.
- 50:32You're really getting good at this whole.
- 50:33Man, yeah, I'm trying, I'm trying.
- 50:37So we are on Instagram X facebook.barbercutspodandyoucanalsosendusanemailbarbercutspod@gmail.com
- 50:53on all of those to chat if you would like tell us.
- 50:57We're crazy. It's nice to see.
- 51:01You know, we started this, this is 16 episodes in.
- 51:05And so, you know, when we started, we were 100% of our
- 51:09listeners were from the US. We're down now to almost 90% of
- 51:14our listeners. So 10% of our listeners are
- 51:17coming from outside the US Sweden is, is still at the top
- 51:21of the list. So go, go Sweden.
- 51:25And so it's really neat. So we'd love if y'all got song
- 51:28recommendations or want to chat about any of it, feel free, feel
- 51:33free to reach out. So that being said, I guess
- 51:37we're on to the next album. What is our next album?
- 51:41Our next album is The Doors by the Doors.
- 51:47Yeah, so this gets back more to my fun stuff.
- 51:51Yeah, I'm looking for to. I have never heard of the Doors.
- 51:55Oh God, somewhere along the line I failed her.
- 51:59You got Pearl Jam and you got Chris Cornell and got those
- 52:02great for me. But the Doors?
- 52:04The doors, the doors, the doors. Maybe one of those that you're
- 52:07like, oh, that's the doors and you know, and that they're
- 52:14they're that's quietly, I think how the doors are.
- 52:17They've got a couple that are really big that you were like,
- 52:21oh, did not know that was the doors.
- 52:25So. Well, looking forward to it.
- 52:29Come back next week to hear what we have to say.
- 52:33Yeah. So in the meantime, I'm Todd.
- 52:38And I'm Riley, and this has been another episode of Barbara Cuts.