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Speaker 1: He's the Good Report.
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Speaker 2: Well, good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm
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Speaker 2: James Macpherson. Coming up tonight. The Australian Human Rights Commission
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Speaker 2: wants the Albenezy government to ban what it calls misinformation
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Speaker 2: about climate change. Mat Canavan will join me while he
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Speaker 2: still can Sean Spicer will join me from the US
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Speaker 2: to discuss our relationship with America. He's got some tips
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Speaker 2: for Anthony Albenezi and for Kevin Rudd. Energy Minister Chris
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Speaker 2: Bowen has sprouked Australia's new climate targets on the global stage,
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Speaker 2: claiming renewables will take over coal within this calendar year.
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Speaker 2: Professor Ian Plymer joins me to dissect that nonsense. And
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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris remember her well. She's still promoting her new book,
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Speaker 2: this time by calling Donald Trump a communist dictator.
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Speaker 3: But hey, what's new?
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Speaker 2: All of that coming up shortly, But first, Penny Wong
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Speaker 2: today accused Susan Lee of going rogue on foreign policy.
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Speaker 3: She's kidding, isn't she.
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Speaker 2: Susan Lee and the Liberals oppose recognizing a Palestinian state
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Speaker 2: while terrorists still control huge swathes of the country. If
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Speaker 2: that's going rogue, then common sense itself has been radicalized. Nevertheless,
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Speaker 2: is Pennywong.
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Speaker 4: We know we's bes strongest when we speak with one voice.
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Speaker 4: We all understand that as Australians and the opposition should
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Speaker 4: understand that the opposition of Australia running a rogue foreign
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Speaker 4: policy is not in the nation's interests.
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Speaker 2: A translation, if you don't agree with me, you're a traitor.
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Speaker 2: It really is an infantile form of argument. If anyone's
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Speaker 2: gone rogue on foreign policy, it's the Albanezy government acting
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Speaker 2: without bipartisan support, in defiance of our major ally and
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Speaker 2: in effect rewarding terrorists who are still busy terrorizing. Is
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Speaker 2: Anthony Albani, he having his historic moment at the United
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Speaker 2: Nations earlier today, basking in the applause like you just
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Speaker 2: solved world hunger by declaring broccoli a dessert.
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Speaker 5: Yesterday Australia recognized the state of Palestine.
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Speaker 2: The Middle East is littered with the remains of world leaders,
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Speaker 2: their schemes, their dreams and their ambitions, and our Prime
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Speaker 2: minister's fate will be no different.
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Speaker 3: The Middle East is.
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Speaker 2: Basically a junkyard of world leader's peace plans. Anthony Albanezi
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Speaker 2: just parked another wreck.
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Speaker 5: In nineteen forty seven, Australia was proud to be the
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Speaker 5: first member of the United Nations to vote for the
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Speaker 5: plan that made the modern state of Israel possible. But
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Speaker 5: that plan always encompassed two states, a state of Israel
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Speaker 5: and a state of Palestine, living side by side within
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Speaker 5: inter nationally recognized borders.
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Speaker 2: Look fine words, a lovely sentiment turn Elbow's speech into.
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Speaker 3: A Hallmark card.
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Speaker 2: It's just a pity the Palestinians don't have a vision
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Speaker 2: for two states living side by side.
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Speaker 3: If they did, will there'd be one.
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Speaker 2: But Elbin Easy, like his Canadian, French and British buddies,
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Speaker 2: thinks if he projects his values onto the Middle East
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Speaker 2: or the Middle East, will magically reflect them back, like
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Speaker 2: yelling at your toaster to make a cappuccino. They imagine
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Speaker 2: geopolitics is kind of like a software update rather than
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Speaker 2: a century's deep conflict rooted in religious ideologies.
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Speaker 5: Recognizing the aspirations of the Palestinian people is about more
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Speaker 5: than a seat, a voice and a vote in the
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Speaker 5: councils of the world. It is about real hope for
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Speaker 5: a place to call home. This is the same hope
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Speaker 5: that sustained generations of Jewish people, the same hope that
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Speaker 5: binds us all to our country is in cultures and
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Speaker 5: drives us to one of better life for our children.
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Speaker 5: Working together, we can build a future where instead of
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Speaker 5: children in gas are dying in pain, living in fear,
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Speaker 5: or being taught to hate, they can go to school
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Speaker 5: and build a life in larger freedom.
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Speaker 2: Leaving aside our PM's ridiculous assertion that Israel's desire to
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Speaker 2: be and established what had been its home for thousands
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Speaker 2: of years is somehow akin to the Palestinians, the PM
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Speaker 2: imagines that this conflict is all about civil rights, life, liberty,
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Speaker 2: and the pursuit of happiness, when in actual fact, it's
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Speaker 2: about death, terror, and the pursuit of martyrdom and.
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Speaker 3: Has been for years.
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Speaker 2: Here's a mass celebrating civil rights on the same day
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Speaker 2: that Anthie Abenezi arrived in New York to recognize a
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Speaker 2: Palestinian state. Gunman executing people accused of consorting with Israelis,
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Speaker 2: and need to warn you the following footage is distressing,
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Speaker 2: But the head you know, if you want the violence
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Speaker 2: to stop, you don't announce a Palestinian state. You just
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Speaker 2: demand that the violence stops. They're not doing that. There's
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Speaker 2: no peace in the Middle East because Palestinian leaders have
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Speaker 2: repeatedly chosen war rather than peace. And here's the ultimate
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Speaker 2: problem with Anthony Albanese's un excursion. There's an enormous gap
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Speaker 2: between what leaders like Albinizi think the Palestinian cause is
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Speaker 2: and what Palestinians think the Palestinian cause is. There are
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Speaker 2: Palestinians and supporters even in Sydney who want one state,
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Speaker 2: which part of from the river to the ced is
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Speaker 2: Anthony Albanesi not understand those up the back from the
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Speaker 2: river to the sea means goodbye Israel. Here are pro
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Speaker 2: Palestinian supporters in Sydney reacting to our government's decision to
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Speaker 2: recognize a Palestinian state by chanting quote, we don't want
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Speaker 2: the two states, we want nineteen forty eight, referencing time
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Speaker 2: before the modern state of Israel was re established after
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Speaker 2: two thousand years in exile. Still, Western leaders continue in
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Speaker 2: their belief that if they stand up at the United
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Speaker 2: Nations and say Palestine exists as a peaceful entity, well
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Speaker 2: then it.
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Speaker 6: Will poula pola Palestinia. The de Clares Cola France recognit
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Speaker 6: Litta de Palestine.
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Speaker 2: Amazing, incredible, and today I declare that I recognize the
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Speaker 2: state of Corsica. Anthony Albanezi told the United Nations that
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Speaker 2: Hamas must have no role in the Palestine.
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Speaker 5: He imagines our recognition was predicated on commitments from the
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Speaker 5: Palestinian authority reaffirming Israel's right to exist in peace and security,
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Speaker 5: that Hamas turn over its weapons to Palestinian security forces
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Speaker 5: and never controls Gaza again. And the PA must demilitarize,
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Speaker 5: hold democratic elections and undertake wholesale reform to governance, finance,
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Speaker 5: and education.
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Speaker 3: So let me get this straight.
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Speaker 2: He's insisting the Palace Xsteinian authority hold democratic elections while
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Speaker 2: insisting the Palestinian authority must ensure that the Palestinian people
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Speaker 2: aren't ever allowed to vote for certain Palestinian people, i e.
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Speaker 3: Hamas or their proxies.
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Speaker 2: Talk about contradiction, speaking of which, did you hear him
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Speaker 2: there saying that the Palestinian authority must demerit, demilitarize, hold elections,
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Speaker 2: which they haven't for years despite promising to, and completely
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Speaker 2: reform their governance, their finances, and their education. By that,
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Speaker 2: he means that their governance is a dictatorship, their finances
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Speaker 2: are corrupt, and their education system teaches children to hate Jews.
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Speaker 2: But look, we're going to give you statehood and trust
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Speaker 2: you to clean up those minor issues when you can.
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Speaker 2: If the Palestinian authority holds free and fair elections, stop
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Speaker 2: stealing money and starts teaching children that Jews are humans,
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Speaker 2: well they'll literally cease being the Palestinian authority. Israel's justified fear,
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Speaker 2: especially after the October seven slaughter, is that the moment
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Speaker 2: a Palestinian state is realized, the Palestinians will work toward
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Speaker 2: a one state solution. And it's not hard to see
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Speaker 2: why they fear that. The UK is one of the
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Speaker 2: nations that has joined Anthony Albanesi and recognizing Palestine. Today
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Speaker 2: opened a Palestine Embassy in London, joining British MPs. To
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Speaker 2: celebrate was the Palestine Ambassador to the UK, Hussam Zumlot.
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Speaker 3: You can see him here raising the.
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Speaker 2: Palestinian flag outside the newly minted Palestine Embassy.
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Speaker 3: Wonderful, but back in twenty twenty three, just two.
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Speaker 2: Years ago, Sky News in the UK asked Asm Zuhmlot
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Speaker 2: if he would condemn the murder of seven Jews outside
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Speaker 2: of synagogue.
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Speaker 3: Will he refuse to condemn their murders?
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Speaker 7: Fifteen year old boy kills seven Israelis, including a newly
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Speaker 7: married couple helping the injured, shot outside of synagogue on
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Speaker 7: Holocaust Memorial Day? Do you condemn that?
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Speaker 8: Every life lost is absolutely a tragedy and no one
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Speaker 8: works for a non violent solution to this.
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Speaker 9: Small than us.
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Speaker 7: Do you condemn it?
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Speaker 8: No? I condemned the origin of all this. That's what
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Speaker 8: needs to be You don't condemn that action. We can
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Speaker 8: sit here until the morning to talk about condemnation. We
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Speaker 8: must stop the cycle of violence.
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Speaker 3: Well, isn't that fantastic?
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Speaker 2: As of today, he is now Palestine's ambassador to the UK.
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Speaker 3: I can't wait to see who we get.
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Speaker 2: I know the Italians didn't join us in recognizing Palestine.
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Speaker 2: And here's how peace loving pro Palestinians responded, Give us
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Speaker 2: a state so we can have peace, or will smash
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Speaker 2: everything up and the international community expect Israel to willingly
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Speaker 2: live next door to that easy for Anthony Albanesi to say.
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Speaker 2: Speaking of which, the Israeli should ask Anthony Albanesi, how
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Speaker 2: is Sydney Electric office is going?
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Speaker 10: Well?
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Speaker 2: Anthony Albanesi has once again demonstrated his uncannyability to make
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Speaker 2: himself invisible on the world stage. While US President Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump is busy clearing his diary for the likes of Argentine,
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Speaker 2: for Argentina, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Pakistan, Turkey and even the
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Speaker 2: European Union, Australia's Prime Minister can't get so much as
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Speaker 2: a five minute coffee catch up. This despite the fact
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Speaker 2: that government MPs have been telling us for months it's
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Speaker 2: going to happen.
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Speaker 5: Look, we will have meetings with President Trump. I'm available
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Speaker 5: for a meeting with President Trump at very short notice,
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Speaker 5: at any time.
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Speaker 4: The Prime Minister has indicated obviously that there's the opportunity
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Speaker 4: at a leader's level coad meeting.
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Speaker 3: I look forward to meeting with President Trump.
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Speaker 11: In terms of any meeting with the President, We've said
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Speaker 11: this on many occasions. I'm sure that at some point
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Speaker 11: in the not too distant future we will see our
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Speaker 11: two leaders meet.
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Speaker 5: I'll be with President Trump in the US next month.
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Speaker 4: And we both look forward to the leader's meeting.
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Speaker 5: I look forward to the meeting and I look forward
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Speaker 5: to it taking place.
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Speaker 2: It's kind of like that two hundred and seventy five
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Speaker 2: dollars electricity promise, isn't it, And today we've got confirmation
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Speaker 2: it won't be happening. But wait, before you think that's
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Speaker 2: a failure, let me introduce you to Assistant Minister for
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Speaker 2: Foreign Affairs, Matt Fizelweit, who insists his boss's inability to
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Speaker 2: get a meeting with our major allies not failure, it's
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Speaker 2: actually success.
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Speaker 12: I think we should say this is a good thing
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Speaker 12: because it means that the President, who's been meeting with
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Speaker 12: world leaders to try and reach a grements on trade policy,
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Speaker 12: he's trying to do deals with other nations around tariff's
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Speaker 12: and trade policy, he doesn't need to do that with Australia.
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Speaker 12: We've got an agreement and that's been reaffirmed by the
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Speaker 12: phone call that occurred recently between the Prime Minister and
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Speaker 12: the President, locking in that ten percent tariff, which is
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Speaker 12: the lowest rate that any nation has secured. So what
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Speaker 12: we've got here is Australia getting a good deal out
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Speaker 12: of the United States when it comes to trade policy.
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Speaker 12: So there's no need for any further follow up meeting.
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Speaker 2: Oh boy, as contortionists go, he is a special talent.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now as National Senator Matt Canavan. So Matt
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Speaker 2: failure to get a meeting with Donald Trump is now
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Speaker 2: a sign of just how well the relationship is going.
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Speaker 3: Are you buying this spin?
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Speaker 11: It's all getting a little embarrassing, and it is a
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Speaker 11: bit but it's also, of course a bit concerning for
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Speaker 11: our country. I note the Prime minister's in New York.
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Speaker 11: I was thinking maybe he should take a leaf out
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Speaker 11: of Jerry Seinfeld's book, and there's an episode there where
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Speaker 11: he's trying to meet a girl he had met at dinner,
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Speaker 11: and he just staked out her office building.
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Speaker 9: Waited near the elevator.
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Speaker 13: To try and grab her.
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Speaker 11: Maybe Albow needs to do the same thing here, just
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Speaker 11: stake out the president, try and shake his hand at
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Speaker 11: some point. But I just cannot believe that we can't
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Speaker 11: get a meeting.
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Speaker 8: I mean, the.
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Speaker 11: President of the United States has met with the leaders
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Speaker 11: of Guinea, of Liberia, of Senegal. These are all meetings
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Speaker 11: he's had in the second term, just in the past year.
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Speaker 11: I'm sure he would meet the leader of Australia, one
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Speaker 11: of America's closest allies, if the Prime Minister really wanted to.
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Speaker 11: It seems to me here that the only explanation for
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Speaker 11: a lack of a meeting is because a prime minister
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Speaker 11: doesn't want to have a meeting. I think he's running
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Speaker 11: scared here. He's a big scaredy cat of Donald Trump,
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Speaker 11: and he is worried what a meeting might look like
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Speaker 11: or what it might have in it in terms of
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Speaker 11: criticism for the President. So he's running away. And if
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Speaker 11: our prime minister, our leader, can't even have a meeting
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Speaker 11: with somebody, how can he properly defend our nation's interests.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, not talk to Sean Spicer a little later in
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Speaker 2: the program, who's got some insights from the US side
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Speaker 2: of things on this particular issue. The Australian Human Rights
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Speaker 2: Commission Matt has told a Senate committee that the government
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Speaker 2: should regulate against false criticism of climate change ideology. They've
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Speaker 2: told the Senate and I'm quoting false narratives on climate change,
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Speaker 2: distort public understanding of road, trust in science and institutions,
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Speaker 2: and delay urgent climate action. This would be hilarious if
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Speaker 2: I didn't think the Albanezy government would take it seriously.
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Speaker 11: Look, nothing says you're winning an argument by seeking to
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Speaker 11: criminalize the points of view that you're opposers are making,
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Speaker 11: which seems to be the suggestion here, although if you
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Speaker 11: take literally what they just said, maybe there is some merit.
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Speaker 11: And I just wasn't clear whether this proposed misinformation law
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Speaker 11: was going to apply equally. Does it also apply to
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Speaker 11: people out there who are exaggerating the impacts of climate change?
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Speaker 11: Would they also for fauled misinformation? Or is just just
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Speaker 11: a one sided proposal to, as I say, silence critics
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Speaker 11: of a preferred narrative because if it is both sided.
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Speaker 11: I mean, there are plenty of people exaggerating things, and
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Speaker 11: in my view, those exaggerations do much more than myself
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Speaker 11: or anyone else to undermine confidence in taking action on
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Speaker 11: climate change. I mean, just last week you had the
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Speaker 11: absurd situation of the government. The government issue a report
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Speaker 11: which cherry picked data from a scientific paper about the
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Speaker 11: potential for people to die from heat due to global warming.
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Speaker 11: They scared us by saying there was a four hundred
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Speaker 11: and forty four percent increase then when in fact, when
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Speaker 11: you went to the actual paper, there were more lives
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Speaker 11: saved from fewer deaths from cold because of global warming.
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Speaker 11: Then they wear an increase in heat deaths, and that
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Speaker 11: paper just completely ignored that. So if we wanted to misinformation,
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Speaker 11: I don't know. I reckon on the balance here as
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Speaker 11: a hell of a lot miss more misinformation from these
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Speaker 11: green activist groups who continue to propagate a scare campaign,
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Speaker 11: a doomsday campaign that there is nowhere near connected to
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Speaker 11: the actual science when you read.
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Speaker 2: It, Matt Canavan, does it scare you as much as
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Speaker 2: it scares me that our Human Rights Commission is advocating
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Speaker 2: for suppression of speech?
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Speaker 11: Well, look, it doesn't shock me. It's perfectly consistent with
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Speaker 11: the conduct of this organization for a long time. I
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Speaker 11: remember we had to chair there a while back that
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Speaker 11: was wanting to silence criticism of done different views.
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Speaker 9: I can't even remember her name now.
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Speaker 11: Sorry, but yeah, it is a fraudulent organization at the
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Speaker 11: best of times. It's a complete waste of taxpayer dollars.
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Speaker 11: And this is such an absurd suggession it should just
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Speaker 11: be completely dismissed, as you say, it would be laughable
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Speaker 11: except for the fact that the Albanezi government hasn't dismissed this.
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Speaker 11: They've set up this set of inquiry with the Greens
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Speaker 11: and they need to explain what they're trying to actually
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Speaker 11: do here, because we do live in a free or
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Speaker 11: we have lived in a free and open society. What
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Speaker 11: we should be allowed to do is have all our
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Speaker 11: different points of view, and if you've got a betefit
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Speaker 11: point of view, you'll win. You'll win in the marketplace ideas.
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Speaker 11: But what this does belie, this attemptlies is the fact
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Speaker 11: that I think they're losing this debate. They've continued to
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Speaker 11: over exaggerate, people like Tim Flannery saying our dams would
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Speaker 11: never be full, and then they do that has more,
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Speaker 11: That does much more damage to confidence in the science
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Speaker 11: than anyone putting a slightly different view. And of course
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Speaker 11: they've also lost the debate on the economics because they
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Speaker 11: promised that they would lower our power bills. The Prime Minister,
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Speaker 11: as you just reminded us, infamously promised a two hundred
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Speaker 11: and seventy five dollars cut.
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Speaker 9: And that hasn't happened.
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Speaker 11: And so that's why they're feeling the heat. It's not misinformation,
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Speaker 11: it's their inability to deliver on their promises.
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Speaker 2: Of course, the Human Rights Commission will nowhere to be seen.
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Speaker 2: During COVID when our rights were being trampled, I think
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Speaker 2: abolishing the Human Rights commission would be a great thing
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Speaker 2: for the coalition to take to the next election. Just
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Speaker 2: an idea for Susan Lee while she's trying to work
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Speaker 2: out what she stands for.
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Speaker 3: Let me give you an.
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Speaker 2: Example of why it's so dangerous for governments to ban
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Speaker 2: you from criticizing policy. Here's a typical government advertisement from
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Speaker 2: just a couple of years ago. Some of the viewers will,
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Speaker 2: well remember this, have a look amaze to see you.
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Speaker 14: Man, what are we shaking hands?
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Speaker 4: Now?
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Speaker 3: COVID nineteen is not over yet.
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Speaker 13: It's up to each of us to protect all of us.
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Speaker 8: Well.
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Speaker 2: Former Victoria Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton has come out
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Speaker 2: today and admitted some of the health orders made during
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Speaker 2: the pandemic, such as that one, were useless and based
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Speaker 2: entirely on guesswork. Now, we all knew these rules were ridiculous,
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Speaker 2: but we were demonized or worse if we dared to
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Speaker 2: say so.
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Speaker 11: Well, look, some of us knew that, but as you say,
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Speaker 11: people were silenced.
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Speaker 15: There.
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Speaker 11: Media wouldn't conduct proper school Some elements of our media
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Speaker 11: present company excluded, wouldn't conduct proper scrutiny of government decisions.
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Speaker 11: They became math pieces for government scare campaigns and it's
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Speaker 11: all come out now. This to me under lines why
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Speaker 11: we still need a raw commission into COVID. Is an
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Speaker 11: absolute outrage that with all of the restrictions, with all
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Speaker 11: of the damage that was done to small businesses, to
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Speaker 11: the learning of children in our schools, people's mental health,
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Speaker 11: all of that damage has been done and we haven't
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Speaker 11: had a royal commission into it. The country had the
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Speaker 11: guts to have a royal commission into the Spanish flu
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Speaker 11: one hundred years ago, but this time there's been a
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Speaker 11: complete whitewashing of all the government decisions that were made
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Speaker 11: at that time. And this admission here the chief Health
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Speaker 11: officer here of Victoria, one of the key lieutenants of
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Speaker 11: the COVID police force that rolled out these restrictions, this
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Speaker 11: admission that he was often making it up that should
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Speaker 11: be grounds for a royal commission if nothing else was
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Speaker 11: already one justified. But now that this admission has been made,
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Speaker 11: it is not too late to have justice for those
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Speaker 11: people who have been harmed by a royal commission, and
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Speaker 11: for all of us to have some degree of closure
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Speaker 11: about what happened and how we can make sure it
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Speaker 11: doesn't happen again.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think there's any closure.
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Speaker 2: Until the people making these decisions, who by their own
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Speaker 2: admission knew they weren't based on anything tangible, held to account,
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure they ever will be.
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Speaker 3: Matt Canavan, thank you so much for joining me tonight.
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Speaker 2: Well, coming up after the break, Shaan Spicer with some
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Speaker 2: timely advice for Anthony Albanezi and Kevin Rudd on how
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Speaker 2: to handle our US relationship and is America on the
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Speaker 2: verge of a spiritual revival?
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Speaker 3: All of that in a moment.
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Speaker 2: Well, our Prime minister has once again failed to gain
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Speaker 2: an audience with Donald Trump. White House Press Secretary Caroline
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Speaker 2: Levitt announced a host of nations whose leaders would have
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Speaker 2: meetings with the US President over the next few days,
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Speaker 2: Anthony Albanezi not among them.
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Speaker 16: The President will also be hosting bilateral meetings with the
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Speaker 16: UN Secretary General and the leaders of Ukraine, Argentina, and
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Speaker 16: the European Union. The President will also later in the
22:29
Speaker 16: day hold a multilateral meeting with Katar, the Kingdom of
22:33
Speaker 16: Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Turkey, Pakistan, Egypt, the UAE, and Jordan.
22:40
Speaker 16: After these important meetings, the President will attend a reception
22:44
Speaker 16: tomorrow night with more than one hundred world leaders before
22:47
Speaker 16: returning to Washington, DC.
22:50
Speaker 2: Joining me is a man who can hopefully decipher this
22:53
Speaker 2: diplomatic cold shoulder. Former White House Press Secretary to Donald
22:56
Speaker 2: Trump Sean Spicer Sean, we, Yeah, what are we to
23:00
Speaker 2: make of this diplomatic snub? We're a major ally of
23:04
Speaker 2: the United States and yet LPM con't manage even the
23:07
Speaker 2: whole way not from Donald Trump. Is this, as our
23:10
Speaker 2: government would have us believe, a scheduling hiccup or is
23:14
Speaker 2: Donald Trump sending a message to our prime minister.
23:18
Speaker 13: I think it might be a little of both.
23:19
Speaker 10: I mean, look, at the end of the day, I
23:22
Speaker 10: think there's a big difference between what we in the
23:24
Speaker 10: United States think of in value in terms of partnership
23:28
Speaker 10: with the Australians. I don't think that this Prime Minister
23:31
Speaker 10: has played his cards right when it comes to developing
23:34
Speaker 10: and building a relationship with President Trump. And I think
23:38
Speaker 10: if you look around the world, it's pretty evident there
23:40
Speaker 10: are some leaders that may not agree with President Trump
23:44
Speaker 10: philosophically or ideologically, but have been able to forge a
23:47
Speaker 10: good relationship.
23:49
Speaker 13: So I do think that it speaks.
23:51
Speaker 10: Volumes about what Prime Minister Albanes has not been able
23:54
Speaker 10: to do, and that might be concerning not just in
23:57
Speaker 10: terms of his administration, but I also do question whether
24:01
Speaker 10: or not some of that does come down to the
24:03
Speaker 10: leadership here in Washington, DC as well.
24:06
Speaker 2: I guess the questions many Australians would have is whether
24:10
Speaker 2: or not Donald Trump is able to separate perhaps his
24:13
Speaker 2: personal distaste for Anthony Alberonizi, with his commitment to Australia generally,
24:19
Speaker 2: as an ally and as a nation.
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Speaker 10: I just don't get the sense that the Prime Minister
24:24
Speaker 10: there in Australia has done much to reach out and
24:28
Speaker 10: build a bond with the new president who's returned to office.
24:32
Speaker 10: And like I said, I don't want to pretend to
24:34
Speaker 10: be an expert, but I don't get the sense diplomatically
24:36
Speaker 10: that your ambassador here has done much to help break
24:39
Speaker 10: the ice as well. When you look at the scheduling
24:44
Speaker 10: that goes into a UN General Assembly, there's only so
24:47
Speaker 10: many hours in the day, and there's a lot of
24:48
Speaker 10: people that want to see you, and I think you're
24:50
Speaker 10: going to prioritize the countries and the leaders of those
24:54
Speaker 10: countries who have sought to forge a better relationship.
24:58
Speaker 2: You mentioned our ambassador to the States, that of course
25:01
Speaker 2: is Kevin Rudd. Viewers here in Australia will be shocked
25:03
Speaker 2: to learn that he hasn't exactly demonstrated wonderful personal skills
25:09
Speaker 2: over there. I want to talk about the memorial service
25:12
Speaker 2: for Charlie Kirk yesterday because it was quite extraordinary. You
25:15
Speaker 2: had speakers at this service including the President, the Vice President,
25:19
Speaker 2: the Secretary of War, the Secretary of State, the Director
25:22
Speaker 2: of National Intelligence, the White House Deputy Chief of Staff,
25:25
Speaker 2: just to name a few.
25:27
Speaker 15: And we have to bring back religion to America because
25:31
Speaker 15: without borders, law and order, and religion, you really don't
25:34
Speaker 15: have a country anymore.
25:36
Speaker 13: We want religion brought back.
25:38
Speaker 17: May Our Heavenly Father give us the courage to live
25:41
Speaker 17: as Charlie lived.
25:43
Speaker 13: His deep belief.
25:45
Speaker 18: That we were all created, every single one of us,
25:48
Speaker 18: before the beginning of time, by the hands of the
25:50
Speaker 18: God of the universe.
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Speaker 2: All of them spoke convincingly about their Christian faith and
25:56
Speaker 2: the need for a revival of spirituality in an America.
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Speaker 2: So in Australia, what should we make of this? Was
26:04
Speaker 2: it just the occasion that got the better of them,
26:06
Speaker 2: or is there a genuine revival of Christianity in the
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Speaker 2: United States.
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Speaker 10: What happened yesterday was one of the most moving, touching,
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Speaker 10: and profound moments in American political history that I've ever seen.
26:18
Speaker 10: For the last eight days, I have really reflected on
26:22
Speaker 10: this man that I called a friend, Charlie Kirk. To
26:26
Speaker 10: your point, James, this sense of revival, not of political motivation,
26:31
Speaker 10: but of faith in a thirty one year old man.
26:34
Speaker 10: And when you heard his widow, Erica speak yesterday so eloquently,
26:40
Speaker 10: the way that she forgave that individual and invoked Christ
26:44
Speaker 10: was hearkening to all of us to look to our
26:47
Speaker 10: better angels about how to move forward. What Charlie did
26:51
Speaker 10: wasn't just about politics.
26:53
Speaker 13: It was a call to faith.
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Speaker 10: I cannot believe what I witnessed yesterday and how manu
27:00
Speaker 10: mental it was to see all of these leaders talk
27:03
Speaker 10: about the same common through line with Charlie Kirk, and
27:06
Speaker 10: the profound effect that he had in our lives as
27:08
Speaker 10: our country and I dare say our world.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was absolutely historic, And as you said, it
27:14
Speaker 2: wasn't just influential in the United States, but has been
27:18
Speaker 2: a huge influence right around the world as it was
27:20
Speaker 2: broadcast globally If there is to be a revival of spirituality,
27:24
Speaker 2: I don't think it will be led by Democrat Representative
27:27
Speaker 2: ilhan Omar. She's doubled down on her hatred of Charlie Kirk.
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Speaker 19: I am not going to sit here and be judged
27:38
Speaker 19: for not wanting to honor any legacy this man has
27:40
Speaker 19: left behind that should be in the dust pen of
27:43
Speaker 19: history and we should hopefully move on and forget the
27:48
Speaker 19: heat that he spewed every single day.
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Speaker 2: If you compare ilhan Omar's attitude to that of Charlie
27:55
Speaker 2: Kirk's widow, the contrast is quite strike, isn't it.
27:59
Speaker 3: He's quite stark.
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Speaker 2: You had tens of thousands of people cheering as Erica
28:03
Speaker 2: Kirk forgave a man for shooting her husband dead, or
28:07
Speaker 2: the left won't forgive Charlie Kirk for saying words that
28:10
Speaker 2: they didn't agree with.
28:12
Speaker 10: They want to excuse the behavior on the left, and
28:14
Speaker 10: they say both sides have violence. But it's amazing to
28:17
Speaker 10: me the reaction and the lead up to it. And
28:20
Speaker 10: what I mean by that is, think about all of
28:22
Speaker 10: these issues of violence when there have been incidents of
28:26
Speaker 10: violence on the right that have occurred.
28:28
Speaker 13: With folks on the left.
28:29
Speaker 10: It has resulted in vandalism, destruction, violence, hatred.
28:34
Speaker 13: Look at what the last week has invoked.
28:36
Speaker 10: Thousands of people, hundreds of thousands of people, millions of people,
28:41
Speaker 10: I dare say that have been called to prayer, to faith,
28:45
Speaker 10: to honor and faithfully and peacefully protest the death of him,
28:51
Speaker 10: but in a call to faith into activism. And I
28:56
Speaker 10: think the reaction and the demonstration that you've seen from
29:00
Speaker 10: how people reacted to Charlie Kirk shows that one side
29:03
Speaker 10: is very different than the other side in terms of
29:06
Speaker 10: how they act and react to situations of this nature.
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Speaker 2: It's certainly a very clear demonstration of two distinct world
29:14
Speaker 2: views and the fruits of those worldviews. While we're on
29:18
Speaker 2: the subject of forgiveness, has Jimmy Kimmel been forgiven? He
29:21
Speaker 2: was abruptly taken off air after giving a monologue last
29:25
Speaker 2: week suggesting Kirk's killer was part of the Maga gang
29:28
Speaker 2: and mocking Donald Trump's reaction to the assassination. But Disney
29:32
Speaker 2: has just announced the TV host will return to his show.
29:36
Speaker 13: Of course they did.
29:37
Speaker 10: And by the way, just to be clear, he has
29:39
Speaker 10: never apologized for this. He spread misinformation and lied and frankly,
29:44
Speaker 10: the big thing that people in Australia need to understand
29:47
Speaker 10: is there's a difference in the United States about our
29:49
Speaker 10: broadcast networks ABC, CBS, NBC, and our cable networks, the
29:54
Speaker 10: ones that use public airwaves. Those networks ABCNBC and CBS
29:58
Speaker 10: have a response ability to the public. In fact, the FCC,
30:03
Speaker 10: which is the government agency that regulates them, they have
30:05
Speaker 10: an obligation not to spread misinformation. And when Jimmy Kimmel
30:10
Speaker 10: uses a late night show to attack the MAGA movement,
30:12
Speaker 10: and in fact that's just attack it, but lie to
30:14
Speaker 10: the American people about the nature of this heinous crime,
30:18
Speaker 10: then ABC, by allowing him back on, is complicit in this.
30:22
Speaker 10: These people are lying and using the public airways to
30:24
Speaker 10: do it, and it's a shame.
30:26
Speaker 2: Just before I let you go, Sean, you mentioned ice
30:29
Speaker 2: agents earlier, Californian Governor Gavin Newsom says he's going to
30:32
Speaker 2: legislate to force immigration and customs enforcement officers to show
30:37
Speaker 2: their faces rather than wear masks.
30:40
Speaker 3: Here are his comments.
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Speaker 20: This is an outrage what we have allowed to happen
30:45
Speaker 20: in this country, and I could not be more proud
30:49
Speaker 20: of this legislature. The legislative authors to the community demanding
30:54
Speaker 20: more from all of us at this moment. To push back,
30:58
Speaker 20: I'll be signing a bill first in the nation, sane
31:02
Speaker 20: enough Ice unmasked.
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Speaker 8: What are you afraid of? What are you afraid of?
31:11
Speaker 2: Sean to unmask US agents? Is this a good idea?
31:16
Speaker 10: Well, first of all, just to be clear, it's a stunt.
31:18
Speaker 10: He has no legislative These are federal agents, they have
31:21
Speaker 10: federal authority. They don't really care or there's no legal
31:25
Speaker 10: authority for Gavin Newsom to tell a federal agent what
31:27
Speaker 10: to do. It's just so it's a stunt. Let's just
31:30
Speaker 10: call it what it is. But secondly, the only reason
31:32
Speaker 10: that their faces are covered is because they're being docked
31:36
Speaker 10: and threatened by the left. They're putting out their names,
31:38
Speaker 10: their addresses, their faces, and their families under attack. And
31:41
Speaker 10: just one little bit of irony in this whole thing, James,
31:44
Speaker 10: those same leftists that are so concerned about mask swearing
31:47
Speaker 10: never had a problem with telling everyone they had to
31:49
Speaker 10: wear a mask during COVID. They never had a problem
31:52
Speaker 10: with a mask when Antifa was committing acts of violence
31:54
Speaker 10: and destruction and vandalism throughout cities in America. So it's
31:58
Speaker 10: interesting that they suddenly now care about masks when they
32:01
Speaker 10: never seem to care so.
32:02
Speaker 13: In the past.
32:03
Speaker 2: Bingo, Sean Spicer, You're always a joy to speak with.
32:07
Speaker 3: Thanks so much for joining me tonight.
32:09
Speaker 9: Thanks James, appreciate it.
32:12
Speaker 2: We'll stick around after the break. Chris Bowen brings his
32:14
Speaker 2: climate crusade to the United Nations, admonishing climate deniers plus
32:19
Speaker 2: will Ai hinder Labour's climate targets. I'll be joined by
32:23
Speaker 2: Professor Ian Plymer next.
32:28
Speaker 14: Well.
32:29
Speaker 3: Chris Bowen has told global.
32:30
Speaker 2: Leaders that Australia is leading the way when it comes
32:33
Speaker 2: to clean energy. He spoke today at a United Nations
32:36
Speaker 2: Climate summit in New York, once again promoting his sixty
32:39
Speaker 2: two to seventy percent emissions reduction by twenty thirty five target,
32:43
Speaker 2: saying it would usher in a revolution in power generation.
32:48
Speaker 21: There are remarkable opportunities, not just the jobs that can
32:50
Speaker 21: be created in large skyle wind and large style skull solar,
32:54
Speaker 21: as important as that is, but each and every day
32:57
Speaker 21: a revolution being undertaken in our subs, in our regions.
33:02
Speaker 2: Chris Bowen told those gathered that renewables will overtake coal
33:07
Speaker 2: as the largest global energy source by the end of
33:10
Speaker 2: this year, the.
33:12
Speaker 21: World undertaking a transition at very rapid pace, with renewables
33:17
Speaker 21: going to overtake coal as the largest source of energy
33:20
Speaker 21: sometime this calendar year.
33:23
Speaker 2: He's counting on wishful thinking and regular gusts of wind.
33:27
Speaker 3: But it's not all good news.
33:28
Speaker 2: Cris Bowen warned delegates that climate deniers are still amongst us.
33:33
Speaker 21: Climate denial is still with us, but it takes new forms.
33:38
Speaker 21: All too hard, is and this is all too hard?
33:40
Speaker 21: Or no one else is doing enough? Why should we
33:43
Speaker 21: do this when the rest of the world isn't moving?
33:45
Speaker 21: And that's an easy message and narrative for the deniers
33:48
Speaker 21: and delayers to communicate.
33:51
Speaker 2: And that seems as good a segue as any to
33:53
Speaker 2: introduce my next guest, esteemed geologist and author Professor Ian
33:58
Speaker 2: plimer Ian crisp No one reckons that if you say,
34:01
Speaker 2: the rest of the world isn't pursuing that zero, so
34:04
Speaker 2: therefore it's unwise for us to pursue that zero.
34:07
Speaker 3: You're a climate denier? Is that fair?
34:10
Speaker 15: Well, maybe I'm one that has a little bit of
34:13
Speaker 15: an objection to the biggest scientific fraud that has ever
34:17
Speaker 15: been perpetrated, and hanging off that or the White suba
34:22
Speaker 15: gad coming in to make a fortune out of all
34:24
Speaker 15: these renewables or ruinables as I call them, and hydrogen.
34:28
Speaker 9: And other things.
34:29
Speaker 15: Now, primate denial is related to Holocaust denial. Holocaust is
34:38
Speaker 15: a totally different thing. And what he's really trying to
34:41
Speaker 15: say is to say, I'm not going to argue with you.
34:43
Speaker 9: You're an evil guy.
34:45
Speaker 15: Now, let me ask him a couple of questions. A
34:47
Speaker 15: really simple question. Show me that human emissions dry global warming.
34:52
Speaker 15: It's never been done. I pursued scientists in all the
34:56
Speaker 15: major institutes around the world to answer that question. So
35:00
Speaker 15: the whole theory that he's working on is based on
35:04
Speaker 15: a fallacy. Therefore, we are not dealing with denial. We
35:08
Speaker 15: are dealing with fraud. And I take a fundamental objection
35:12
Speaker 15: to a minister of the Crown promoting fraud.
35:15
Speaker 9: This fraud will send us bankrupt. Now other countries are
35:20
Speaker 9: not doing it.
35:21
Speaker 15: Is absolutely totally wrong about renewables taking over from fossil fuels.
35:27
Speaker 15: We have one hundred years of data from the International
35:30
Speaker 15: Energy Agency showing that the proportion of coal oil gas
35:37
Speaker 15: is increasing, and it's increased at an alarming rate. So
35:42
Speaker 15: has the amount of nuclear But what we're missing out
35:46
Speaker 15: on is a great increase in wind and solar. People
35:50
Speaker 15: have realized that they will not drive an industrial economy.
35:54
Speaker 15: An industrial economy needs a lot of grunt. You don't
35:57
Speaker 15: get that from seabreezes and the sunbeams. So mister Bowen
36:01
Speaker 15: needs to go back to some basic information. I think
36:03
Speaker 15: he's showing that he's a beneficiary of our education system
36:07
Speaker 15: which is dumbed down over the last fifty.
36:09
Speaker 9: Years, and he can't ask simple questions.
36:12
Speaker 15: He can't get his advisors to actually look at the
36:16
Speaker 15: statistical record over the last one hundred years to say, well,
36:19
Speaker 15: Cole is just taking it off.
36:21
Speaker 9: This is not true.
36:23
Speaker 3: The other thing he boasted.
36:24
Speaker 2: The other thing he boasted about Ian is that Australians
36:27
Speaker 2: are not just consumers.
36:29
Speaker 3: We are prosumers. It's a new term he was very
36:32
Speaker 3: proud of. Take a look with a.
36:34
Speaker 21: Solar panel on their roof, with a battery in their garage,
36:38
Speaker 21: they can decide what to do with their energy, and
36:42
Speaker 21: they can provide energy to the grid when prices are high,
36:45
Speaker 21: and instead of getting an energy bill, if they choose
36:48
Speaker 21: get an energy rebate. This is a remarkable opportunity to
36:52
Speaker 21: transform transform consumers into prosumers, producers and consumers of energy
36:57
Speaker 21: all at the same time.
37:00
Speaker 2: Prosumers there you go, not consumers, prosumers. Do you think
37:03
Speaker 2: most of his Sharecristponen's enthusiasm.
37:06
Speaker 15: Well, his enthusiasm is to transfer money from more wealthy to.
37:10
Speaker 9: The poor and then rob the poor.
37:14
Speaker 15: By even more money because they're still waiting for their
37:17
Speaker 15: two seventy five dollars, rob them with even more promises,
37:21
Speaker 15: and so the rich are living off the poor. Now,
37:23
Speaker 15: I thought this was a labor party, This was meant
37:25
Speaker 15: to look after the little man, and what he's doing
37:27
Speaker 15: is the exact opposite. They're taking money from the poor.
37:31
Speaker 15: They're sending employers broke, they're putting people out of work.
37:34
Speaker 15: If you lose a real job and try to replace
37:38
Speaker 15: it with a job in the ruinable industry, then you
37:41
Speaker 15: find that.
37:42
Speaker 9: It's a net loss situation. So this is just not true.
37:46
Speaker 9: And what we once had was cheap, reliable electricity. It
37:49
Speaker 9: came from coal.
37:51
Speaker 15: Other countries have realized that we're exporting this coal, but
37:54
Speaker 15: we're not using ourselves. And these countries take our coal,
37:58
Speaker 15: make something with their coal, and then give us something
38:01
Speaker 15: back with the value added. And we've provided all the energy.
38:05
Speaker 15: It's completely around the wrong way. And so mister Bowen
38:09
Speaker 15: should be very proud of his Labor Party roots and
38:12
Speaker 15: his Labor Party routes are now robbing the electorate, robbing
38:17
Speaker 15: the poor and giving it to the rich. Because most
38:19
Speaker 15: people cannot afford to have batteries or rooftop solar. Most
38:24
Speaker 15: people rely on the grid, that unreliable grid, that grid
38:28
Speaker 15: where our electricity prices have got up tenfold.
38:31
Speaker 9: So we have been conned.
38:33
Speaker 15: And as I said before, this is the biggest scientific
38:36
Speaker 15: fraud we've ever seen, and associated with that is the
38:38
Speaker 15: biggest financial con we've ever seen.
38:42
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, Ian Plymber, if the Australian Human
38:45
Speaker 2: Rights Commission have their way, we will not be allowed
38:48
Speaker 2: to have this conversation in the very near future, which
38:51
Speaker 2: is an incredible thing the place that our country has
38:54
Speaker 2: come to appreciate you joining me tonight while you're still able.
38:58
Speaker 3: Thank you, Ian Plymer.
38:59
Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break when we come back.
39:01
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, well she's back. She's blasting Donald Trump as
39:05
Speaker 2: a tyrant. Joe Hildebrand and Will Kingston will join me
39:09
Speaker 2: in a moment. I cannot think of a better way
39:14
Speaker 2: to finish a Tuesday Night than with Sky News contributors
39:17
Speaker 2: Joe Hildebrand and Will Kingston.
39:19
Speaker 3: Welcome to you both.
39:21
Speaker 2: Any suggestion that Democrats might moderate their rectric just to touch,
39:25
Speaker 2: you know, after assassination attempts on their opponents has been
39:29
Speaker 2: completely destroyed. He's Kabala Harris promoting her new book on MSNBC.
39:36
Speaker 13: A tyrant.
39:38
Speaker 18: We used to compare the strength of our democracy to
39:42
Speaker 18: communist dictators. That's what we're dealing with right now. Donald
39:44
Speaker 18: Trump and these titans of industry are not speaking up.
39:58
Speaker 2: Joe, is Trump a communist dictator? And if he's not,
40:04
Speaker 2: why is she saying that?
40:06
Speaker 1: Well?
40:07
Speaker 17: I don't think Kamala Harris actually knows why she says anything.
40:10
Speaker 17: And it's again a very illuminating reminder of why the
40:14
Speaker 17: Democrats lost the twenty twenty four presidential election and pretty
40:17
Speaker 17: much every other contest, including both the House of Reps
40:21
Speaker 17: and the Senate. Kamala Harris's explanations for anything are just
40:27
Speaker 17: almost impenetrable. I think part of what she might be
40:30
Speaker 17: saying is that Trump is trashing US democratic institutions, and
40:36
Speaker 17: there's plenty of truth in that, but also that he's
40:39
Speaker 17: waging a kind of trade war which harks back to
40:42
Speaker 17: protectionism with his tariffs that he's applying on all other countries,
40:47
Speaker 17: including Australia, although we are at the lowest end. And
40:52
Speaker 17: is she saying that that is the actions of a protectionist, socialist,
40:56
Speaker 17: communist dictator.
40:58
Speaker 1: I mean, she doesn't really seem to know all.
40:59
Speaker 17: That seems to be what she's appealing to the so
41:02
Speaker 17: called titans of industry to.
41:05
Speaker 1: Speak out against. But the truth is that Trump.
41:07
Speaker 17: Is responding to a need felt by many American workers
41:12
Speaker 17: that they did feel like their industries were under threat
41:15
Speaker 17: from other countries and from climate change.
41:17
Speaker 1: And the Democrats simply failed to address that.
41:19
Speaker 17: They failed to properly harness their working class base.
41:23
Speaker 1: And that is a tragedy for the center left.
41:28
Speaker 2: Will Kingston I personally find it hard to keep up.
41:31
Speaker 2: Before the election, Trump was a Nazi. A month ago,
41:35
Speaker 2: he was a fascist. This week he's a communist.
41:38
Speaker 3: Have I got that right? Something like that?
41:41
Speaker 14: Well, to Joe's point, the term itself doesn't really matter.
41:44
Speaker 14: If you ask Kamala Harris, or indeed anyone who uses
41:47
Speaker 14: this type of language what communism or fascism means. I
41:50
Speaker 14: think they would struggle to give you a coherent answer.
41:53
Speaker 14: It's more that it's coded messaging to their supporters. They
41:58
Speaker 14: are trying to say that conservatives are dangerous, that they're extremists,
42:02
Speaker 14: and as a result of that, you can't reason with
42:05
Speaker 14: an extremist, you can't debate them, you can't argue with them.
42:08
Speaker 14: So it is acceptable to either sense of them to
42:11
Speaker 14: suppress their speech or yes, to engage in political violence.
42:17
Speaker 14: There is a permission structure in this language, James, that
42:21
Speaker 14: enables political violence in a way that you do not
42:24
Speaker 14: see on the right. That's why I've said several times
42:26
Speaker 14: now in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination, that what
42:29
Speaker 14: we're seeing on the left side of politics is that
42:31
Speaker 14: political violence is inherent in the ideology. There is a
42:36
Speaker 14: permission structure within the ideology in a way that there
42:38
Speaker 14: just is not on the right.
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Speaker 9: This whole language.
42:42
Speaker 14: Is just a way to basically say, you do not
42:44
Speaker 14: reason with these people. You actually engage in far more
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Speaker 14: nefarious ways of stopping them. It is incredibly dangerous to
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Speaker 14: our political discourse.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right, but he's the bad news.
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Speaker 3: It gets worse.
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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris went on to claim in this interview on
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Speaker 2: MSNBC that she was so worried about Pete Boudages facing
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Speaker 2: discrimination for being gay and damaging her campaign that well,
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Speaker 2: she discriminated against him for being gay. She did exactly
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Speaker 2: what she said she was worried about to him have
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Speaker 2: a listen to be a.
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Speaker 18: Black woman running for president of the United States and
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Speaker 18: as a vice presidential running mate a gay man, with
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Speaker 18: the stakes being so high. It made me very sad,
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Speaker 18: But I also realized it would be a real risk
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Speaker 18: no matter how you know. I've been an advocate and
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Speaker 18: an ally of the LGBT community my entire life, So.
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Speaker 13: It wasn't about it.
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Speaker 18: It wasn't about it, right, So it wasn't about any
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Speaker 18: prejudice on my part.
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Speaker 2: Joe Hildebrand, she's been an ally of the LGBT community
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Speaker 2: her whole life until it threatened her political camp.
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Speaker 21: Yeah.
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Speaker 17: Look, the truth is that Pete Butterge would have been
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Speaker 17: a far better candidate for the presidency than Kamala Harris was.
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Speaker 17: I mean, she was absolutely woeful and this was the
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Speaker 17: Democrat's election to lose, and boy did they lose it.
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Speaker 17: This is the toxicity of identity politics. Seeing everything through
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Speaker 17: a prism of what someone's race is or what someone's
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Speaker 17: sexuality is. Pete Budget is an absolute standout star performer.
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Speaker 1: We saw that in the primaries.
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Speaker 17: We've seen that virtually every public appearance is a decorated
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Speaker 17: veteran as well. I think you know, having you know,
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Speaker 17: having someone who again was chosen, and Joe Biden made
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Speaker 17: this clear on the basis of their sex and of
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Speaker 17: the color of their skin has been an abject, absolute,
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Speaker 17: thorough complete failure for the left in the United States.
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Speaker 1: And the fact that she is doing now.
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Speaker 17: First she denied what Rachel Maddow said, that she said
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Speaker 17: he couldn't run because he was gay, and then she
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Speaker 17: said in her own an impenetrable, voluminous Waldorf word salad
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Speaker 17: way that in fact, that's exactly what she did. I
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Speaker 17: think that just highlights just how utterly destructive and self
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Speaker 17: destructive identity politics is. We need talent to rise to
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Speaker 17: the top regardless of what someone's race, gender, or sexuality is,
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Speaker 17: and that would have put Peter budydeck EON's ahead of Kamala.
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Speaker 3: Harris, well Will Kingston.
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Speaker 2: The funniest part of this for me is that Kamala
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Speaker 2: Harris apparently thought Tim Waltz the guy she went with
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Speaker 2: was a middle of the road choice.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, that's right, And Joe's right in pointing out that
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Speaker 14: this is all just identity politics playing out in its
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Speaker 14: most toxic form. Because they looked at Tim Woltz and
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Speaker 14: they said, well, people are so stupid that they'll see
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Speaker 14: someone who looks like, you know, an average fifty year
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Speaker 14: old American, midwestern type.
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Speaker 13: Guy, and as a result of that, they'll jump at it.
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Speaker 14: There's this bigo tree, there's this sense that they just
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Speaker 14: think that voters are stupid. They won't actually stop and
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Speaker 14: listen to what they say. But because the guy wears
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Speaker 14: go shooting on the weekends, he's somehow going to resonate
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Speaker 14: with Middle America. This is why that the left really
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Speaker 14: struggles to win the votes of working class men is
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Speaker 14: because they patronize them. It's because they say, really, we
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Speaker 14: think you're so stupid that if we put a pantomime up,
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Speaker 14: you are going to run with it. They could do
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Speaker 14: worse than actually stopping and going cut the identity politics stuff,
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Speaker 14: folks on policy and stop belittling people by assuming that
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Speaker 14: they're stupid. Whenever they get into these types of these
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Speaker 14: types of situations, I'll.
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Speaker 3: Tell you what.
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Speaker 2: I hope they didn't choose Tim Waltz because he goes
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Speaker 2: out shooting on the weekends. Remember the video footage of
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Speaker 2: him holding a gun. He was a guy who'd clearly
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Speaker 2: never been shooting on a weekend, pretending that he had
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Speaker 2: been just before we go.
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Speaker 3: Just something that caught my eye. I want to ask
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Speaker 3: you about it.
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Speaker 2: Meyer has become the latest retailer to warn about the
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Speaker 2: crime crisis, particularly in Victoria. But addressing the companies in Esther's,
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Speaker 2: the CEO spoke about their current situation and I just
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Speaker 2: want to look at the language used. Here's a quote
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Speaker 2: from the Australian. Maya had spent an extra four million
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Speaker 2: dollars in security measures, which had helped generate a twenty
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Speaker 2: percent fall in shrinkage, which is theft.
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Speaker 1: Joe.
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Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, you know, crime is such a big problem.
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Speaker 2: Why won't major retailers that are calling out the problem
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Speaker 2: of crime call crime crime? Why is the word shrinkage?
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Speaker 2: Are they afraid of calling it for what it is?
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Speaker 17: Yeah, I thought that shrinkage was something that just happened
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Speaker 17: to George Costanza when he went swimming.
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Speaker 1: In cold water.
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Speaker 17: In fact, in fact, I think It's a retail term
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Speaker 17: for basically the difference between the value of the stock
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Speaker 17: that you know you have sold versus the revenue that
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Speaker 17: you are getting in for that stock. So there's obviously
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Speaker 17: a difference when you know there's been shoplifting or other
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Speaker 17: factors going on.
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Speaker 1: You know, when there is a difference between the.
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Speaker 17: Value of the stuff that is disappeared and the money
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Speaker 17: the value of the money that you've got to replace that, that.
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Speaker 1: Is the difference. And so that is the shrinkage.
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Speaker 17: There's the shrinking value of stuff as it disappears out
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Speaker 17: the door, apparently without having been paid for by a
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Speaker 17: large number of customers.
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Speaker 13: There you go.
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Speaker 2: I thought maybe they were trying to be politically correct.
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Speaker 2: Joe Hildebrand, Will Kingston, thanks for joining me. That's all
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Speaker 2: I've got time for tonight. Coming up right now hosting
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Speaker 1: Good night.