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ISS Astronaut's Health Delays Spacewalk · Made of Stars

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  Speaker 2: I don't care what you Happy New Year to our audience. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this is a fresh new season of Native Stars. And
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  Speaker 2: yes we've had one episode already, but we pre recorded
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  Speaker 2: that one.
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  Speaker 4: We did.
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  Speaker 2: That one was one where we looked back at the
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  Speaker 2: previous year, and we have one of our stories today
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  Speaker 2: is a big story that we, as you mentioned, probably
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  Speaker 2: didn't spend enough time on last year because it was
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  Speaker 2: one of those milestone anniversaries for the International Space Station
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  Speaker 2: that ends with a five or a zero. Those are
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  Speaker 2: the big ones, and we'll get to that in a second.
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  Speaker 2: First have it's kind of some breaking news and it's
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  Speaker 2: very much a developing story. We don't have a lot
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  Speaker 2: that we can talk about with it because quite frankly,
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  Speaker 2: there's just not a lot of information that's been released yet.
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  Speaker 2: There was a scheduled walk today six and a half
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  Speaker 2: hours two of the crew of the International Space Station,
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  Speaker 2: two of the crew eleven crew. I guess we're planning
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  Speaker 2: to go out and do some repairs on the International
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  Speaker 2: Space Station outside and that was canceled and there was
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  Speaker 2: a reason given, and it was that there was a
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  Speaker 2: health concern with one of the crew members. And NASA
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  Speaker 2: has said there's a possibility that they may even have
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  Speaker 2: to bring that crew home early. We don't know what
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  Speaker 2: that means. We may never really know what that means.
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  Speaker 2: You would think they may give us some information, but
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  Speaker 2: at the same time, you do have some hippowrites. Even
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  Speaker 2: if you're an astronaut. This isn't the NFL where you say,
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  Speaker 2: wait a minute, you mean Russell Wilson had a calf
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  Speaker 2: injury back then and never told us. And it's a
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  Speaker 2: little different because we may or may not get much
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  Speaker 2: more information. I'm sure we'll get more information, but we're
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  Speaker 2: not going to probably get all the details, I guess.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. And here's what space dot com is reporting, like
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  Speaker 4: this is maybe the the closest thing to kind of
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  Speaker 4: a live update as we're recording the show. So from
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  Speaker 4: space dot Com we have this language, the health issue
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  Speaker 4: affecting an astronaut aboard the International Space Station may be
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  Speaker 4: serious enough to end his or her orbital stay. Early
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  Speaker 4: on Wednesday, afternoons since yesterday as we're recording the show,
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  Speaker 4: NASA announced that it had postponed a plan Thursday spacewalk
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  Speaker 4: outside ISS due to quote astronaut medical concerns. So that's
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  Speaker 4: that's kind of what we know is somebody's sick, right,
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  Speaker 4: So to continue on with what space dot com is reporting,
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  Speaker 4: the agency did not name the astronaut or share details
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  Speaker 4: about his or her condition, citing privacy issues as Wes
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  Speaker 4: just mentioned, but did not but did note that the
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  Speaker 4: situation is stable, so we don't know what. We don't
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  Speaker 4: know what that means exactly, other than you know, they
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  Speaker 4: they're they're not needing to do this in a rapid emergency,
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  Speaker 4: uh sort of egress, but they are considering ending mission early.
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  Speaker 4: So early Thursday morning to go on with space dot
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  Speaker 4: Com story. Early Thursday morning, NASA officials provided an update
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  Speaker 4: via email which stressed that the crew member remained stable,
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  Speaker 4: but that doesn't mean that everything is back to normal,
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  Speaker 4: and further quotes says this quote safely conducting our missions
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  Speaker 4: as our highest priority, and we are actively evaluating all options,
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  Speaker 4: including the possibility of an early end to Crew eleven's mission. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: so says NASA. So that's where we're at today. We
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  Speaker 4: don't know, you know, who's involved. We don't know what
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  Speaker 4: the extent of the illness is, but somebody is having
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  Speaker 4: some kind of a medical situation aboard ISS. And of course, Wes,
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  Speaker 4: you and I have talked about this a couple of
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  Speaker 4: different times on the show. There was even a Russian
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  Speaker 4: movie where they had this scenario playing out and in
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  Speaker 4: the motion picture in the sci fi movie, they actually
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  Speaker 4: flew a doctor to the International Space Station to deal
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  Speaker 4: with that person aboard. Now, not saying that they would
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  Speaker 4: do that, but I'm not saying that they wouldn't do
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  Speaker 4: that even in this case. Right, So, so we'll be
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  Speaker 4: watching this and obviously you could you can watch the
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  Speaker 4: Space media outlets, but we'll have more details on this
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  Speaker 4: for anything that we can gather by next week's show.
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  Speaker 2: You would hope that they have it, I mean, and
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  Speaker 2: they're calling whoever it is. Basically, you know they're okay
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  Speaker 2: at the moment, and that's all that you can do,
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  Speaker 2: right you get to that stage where and then you
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  Speaker 2: have to evaluate and make decisions about Everything they're doing
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  Speaker 2: up there is monitored, and obviously they're able to say,
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  Speaker 2: look this person stable, and you know, we're able to
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  Speaker 2: spend a little bit more time evaluating it. And that's
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  Speaker 2: all that they can do. And obviously, when this story
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  Speaker 2: started to break this morning, my eyebrow went up and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, this is something Sean and I
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  Speaker 2: are going to talk about. And I knew we weren't
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  Speaker 2: going to really get a whole lot of information too quickly.
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  Speaker 2: But we'll see, we'll see. It's a watch and wait thing,
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  Speaker 2: and it's a developing story.
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  Speaker 4: It's the kinds of questions that people ask when they
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  Speaker 4: come visit us here at the Space Science Center. There
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  Speaker 4: they sometimes will ask something like this, Hey, what if
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  Speaker 4: somebody is up on the space station and they have
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  Speaker 4: a heart attack, right, or you know some you know,
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  Speaker 4: you name your illness of the day, right. So so
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  Speaker 4: the first answer is, they do have somebody who's assigned
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  Speaker 4: every crew who has some medical training and is kind
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  Speaker 4: of the official flight surgeon, so to speak, or the
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  Speaker 4: official first responder in terms of a medical kind of situation.
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  Speaker 4: But obviously there are limited things they can do aboard
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  Speaker 4: the International Space Station. So always one of the options
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  Speaker 4: is to get them into spacecraft and get them home
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  Speaker 4: quickly if the the situation called for it. And obviously
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  Speaker 4: that's what they're evaluating right now, and so it's it's
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  Speaker 4: always different when you answer hypothetical questions as as opposed
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  Speaker 4: to watching him play out in real time. We do
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  Speaker 4: wish the astronaut who is having this medical issue the
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  Speaker 4: very best and hope that all of that will turn
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  Speaker 4: out in a way that is okay for everybody.
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  Speaker 2: It is wild that we haven't had a major health
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  Speaker 2: emergency up there. I know there's a lot that goes
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  Speaker 2: into the training and the testing and all the things
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  Speaker 2: that go before they're sent up there, but it is
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  Speaker 2: wild that we haven't had some kind of a really
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  Speaker 2: major in all in the twenty five years, right, and
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  Speaker 2: just quickly on this, and you say that someone is
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  Speaker 2: designated as the medical officer, the chief medical officer for
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  Speaker 2: while they're up there. This is different than like if
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  Speaker 2: your office is you're the safety officer, and you go, well,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know anything about safety, and they do you
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  Speaker 2: know where the fire extinguishers are? You're the safety officer.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little more than that, right, I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean, it is how much more we don't know, but
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  Speaker 4: it's more than that. I mean, for instance, to go
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  Speaker 4: along with what you're saying, I was actually the Y
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  Speaker 4: two K compliance officer for the Coca Cola Space Science
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  Speaker 4: Center back in the year two thousand and I will
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  Speaker 4: say that, you know, under my leadership, we successfully navigated
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  Speaker 4: that very good, treacherous and difficult situation. And so and yes,
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  Speaker 4: somebody did step up and say, Sean, congratulations, here the
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  Speaker 4: Y two K compliance officer for Columbus State University's Coca
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  Speaker 4: Cola Space Science Center. This is well before my directorship.
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  Speaker 4: So I wasn't in that lofty position to name the
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  Speaker 4: Y two K compliance officer. I simply was standing there
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  Speaker 4: when everybody else stepped one step backwards.
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  Speaker 2: But did you add it to your resume? That's the
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  Speaker 2: real question. At some point.
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  Speaker 4: I did not do that, but I did bring it
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  Speaker 4: up in a meeting recently when people were asking, like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, tell us something about yourself that people don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I hope, well, okay.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you took it more seriously than I did.
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  Speaker 2: While I was doing a morning show radio at the time,
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  Speaker 2: and I remember telling everybody that they should unplug and
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  Speaker 2: throw away their toasters if they weren't why to UK compliant.
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  Speaker 2: And people were calling the main office of the station
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  Speaker 2: where I was working and saying, what are we supposed
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  Speaker 2: to do with our toasters?
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  Speaker 4: And they were like, if you can't guarantee to me
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  Speaker 4: that your toaster is y two K compliant, I'm afraid
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  Speaker 4: it'll have to go.
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  Speaker 2: I just remember thinking, please tell me that you just
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  Speaker 2: told him Wes is an idiot. Just leave your toaster
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  Speaker 2: as is. I was hoping that was the response. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what they said, but anyway, we do wish
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  Speaker 2: them well, and obviously, if we can find out anymore
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  Speaker 2: by next week, we'll give you some more on that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and to maybe give it just a little bit
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  Speaker 4: more punctuated serious answer to that. All of the astronauts
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  Speaker 4: have medical training, right, so if one, you know, what
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  Speaker 4: one knows before they leave the ground, who's going to
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  Speaker 4: be the chief medical person? And I have to met
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  Speaker 4: I did not look that up before this we talk
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  Speaker 4: about the story today, Maybe we'll try to get that
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  Speaker 4: as some information for next time.
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  Speaker 2: But I didn't see it in the story that I read,
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  Speaker 2: like which one was designated.
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  Speaker 4: But safe to say that all of the astronauts have
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  Speaker 4: some more than just basic first aid level of medical
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  Speaker 4: training because that's part of the extensive astronaut training program.
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  Speaker 4: Because you see people at NASA thought about this already
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  Speaker 4: right where they're not like, oh, that took us by surprise.
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  Speaker 4: We never thought if anybody gets sick, now they did.
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  Speaker 4: They thought about that. In addition to that, of course,
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  Speaker 4: they have medical doctors standing by on the ground. That's
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  Speaker 4: part of what the ground support teams do. There is
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  Speaker 4: actually a flight surgeon and a medical team as part
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  Speaker 4: of the standard ground control teams in Houston, Texas. So
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  Speaker 4: you know, any any aid or treatment that is being
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  Speaker 4: administered aboard the orbiting space platform is under the consultation
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  Speaker 4: of actual medical doctors on the ground. So all of
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  Speaker 4: this is things we just know about NASA and their protocols,
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  Speaker 4: and all of that is clearly underway in this still
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  Speaker 4: evolving situation as we report the story this morning.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the twenty fifth anniversary for
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  Speaker 2: the International Space Station that came and went in early November.
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  Speaker 2: For us, we probably just kind of glossed over it
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  Speaker 2: because there wasn't a lot. There's probably other things. Honestly,
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  Speaker 2: we had a lot in the last year that we
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  Speaker 2: talked about and covered. But now NASA has basically said,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, we should take a little moment to
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  Speaker 2: acknowledge the twenty five years and we've got some of
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  Speaker 2: that for you today.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. They well, what they particularly look back at they said, hey,
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  Speaker 4: this is this is our you know, concluding twenty five years,
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  Speaker 4: and we're now going on the twenty sixth year. So
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  Speaker 4: in the in the surpassed twenty five years of continuous
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  Speaker 4: human presence aboard the International Space Station, they've done a
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  Speaker 4: lot of stuff, right, and so so what they did
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  Speaker 4: is they took a look back just at this year
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty five and published that up in our recent
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  Speaker 4: article on NASA Dot GOV. And so it's it's really interesting.
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  Speaker 4: In just this past year, NASA astronauts or astronauts in
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  Speaker 4: general from from the multi nation contingency that's up there,
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  Speaker 4: they did over seven hundred and fifty investigations aboard the
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  Speaker 4: International Space Station, so they had, in other words, they
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  Speaker 4: had seven hundred and fifty different research projects that took place.
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  Speaker 4: So that is, even if that laboratory was on the ground,
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  Speaker 4: that would be a very prolific laboratory for doing research.
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  Speaker 4: And as we know, a lot of that research that's
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  Speaker 4: going on aboard the International Space Station is medical in nature, right,
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  Speaker 4: And so some of the things that they did up
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  Speaker 4: there this year were the testing of DNA's ability to
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  Speaker 4: actually store data, So think about that. Could you use
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  Speaker 4: human DNA as a data storage mechanism. That's an interesting twist, right.
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  Speaker 4: They did studies on producing vital nutrients on demand, They
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  Speaker 4: demonstrated technology for space debris removal and satellite maintenance, and
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  Speaker 4: they did a variety of other experiments that we're advancing
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  Speaker 4: next generation medicines and more. And see friends here, you
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  Speaker 4: might say, well, why do they have to do that
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  Speaker 4: up there. Many of the experiments that they did in
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  Speaker 4: terms of the medical type experiments can only be done
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  Speaker 4: in microgravity environments because you cannot reproduce the same conditions
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  Speaker 4: in laboratories on the Earth, and that is a topic
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  Speaker 4: we've talked about a lot on this podcast. It's simply
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  Speaker 4: that if you want cells and other internal human components
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  Speaker 4: to react and act the way they do inside the body,
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  Speaker 4: but you want that to happen outside the body, you
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  Speaker 4: can't necessarily do that in a gravity gravity positive environment
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  Speaker 4: because it just simply flattens everything out. You have to
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  Speaker 4: do it in a microgravity environment because that then recreates
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  Speaker 4: the hydrostatic equilibrium conditions that we find inside the body.
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  Speaker 4: You can do that recreation in a microgravity environment. So
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  Speaker 4: that's why a lot of those medical experiments are taken
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  Speaker 4: to the International Space Station, because that's really the only
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  Speaker 4: place where they can do them.
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  Speaker 2: More made of Stars. Right after this, let's talk about
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  Speaker 2: Doug Hurley. My old friend Doug Hurley got to interview
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  Speaker 2: him while you and I were doing a broadcast doing
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  Speaker 2: two episodes from the Kennedy Space Center and I got
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  Speaker 2: a chance to talk with him. We did a lot
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  Speaker 2: of interviews with various artemis engineers and project managers and
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  Speaker 2: one of the people offered up with Doug Hurley and
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  Speaker 2: I had a chance to chat with him. Unfortunately, it
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  Speaker 2: was like they pulled me one way and you a
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  Speaker 2: different way, and I ended up being the one with Doug.
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  Speaker 2: Fortunately for me, I wish we could have both done
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  Speaker 2: the interview with him. But anyway, so yeah, let's talk
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  Speaker 2: about Doug back in the new notice.
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  Speaker 4: Clearly Doug Hurley a hero of the American space program
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  Speaker 4: for a variety of reasons. Doug's last assignment actually was
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  Speaker 4: training astronauts on how to fly both SpaceX Dragons and
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  Speaker 4: Starliners from Boeing. So I don't know how that worked out,
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  Speaker 4: but anyway, so I mean, I do know how that
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  Speaker 4: worked out, but anyway, So apparently though, one of the
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  Speaker 4: things he can do is he can tell you how
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  Speaker 4: to fly a SpaceX Dragon. You know why because he
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  Speaker 4: was the first guy to do it. He was the
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  Speaker 4: first ever commander of a human passenger carrying SpaceX Dragon mission.
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  Speaker 4: That test flight occurred in twenty twenty. And yes, your
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  Speaker 4: attention may have been elsewhere back then, because yes, that
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  Speaker 4: did happen during COVID, but that was the very first
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  Speaker 4: time that a SpaceX Dragon spacecraft took human beings to
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  Speaker 4: the International Space Station and thereby re establishing America's capability
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  Speaker 4: to launch our own astronauts from our own soil. Doug
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  Speaker 4: was the commander of that mission. Doug Hurley also piloted
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  Speaker 4: a couple of Space Shuttle missions, one in two thousand
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  Speaker 4: and nine and the other in twenty eleven, so he
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  Speaker 4: had a long and storied history with a NASA's astronaut program.
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  Speaker 4: In addition to that, he also was a marine aviator.
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  Speaker 4: He attended a school in New York that was called
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  Speaker 4: Awiga Free Academy, and it's in a town of Awiga,
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  Speaker 4: New York, and at a Wigo Free Academy. Graduated in
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  Speaker 4: nineteen eighty four. He grew up on a street called
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  Speaker 4: Forest Hill Road. And so what's happened is this The
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  Speaker 4: town of Owega has dedicated a marker for Doug Hurley
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  Speaker 4: in his hometown near the house where he grew up
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  Speaker 4: on Forest Hill Road. And it's just a commemorative to say, hey,
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  Speaker 4: we here in the town of a week in New York,
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  Speaker 4: we're really proud of one of our one of our own,
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  Speaker 4: one of our hometown kids who grew up and did
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  Speaker 4: amazing things and that is Doug Hurley. So so congratulations
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  Speaker 4: Doug on your new marker. By the way, the story
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  Speaker 4: comes from the bing Hampton homepage. That's not a source
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  Speaker 4: that we quote every day here on Made of Stars podcast.
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  Speaker 4: The Binghampton homepage dot com. Check out the story. Doug
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  Speaker 4: gets a sign and he now has a marker in
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  Speaker 4: his hometown. Doug Hurley, American astronaut and hero.
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  Speaker 2: I like when we can quote some of these sources
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  Speaker 2: that we don't typically quote. And I guess we were
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  Speaker 2: just discussing this on another podcast earlier in the week,
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  Speaker 2: we here in Columbus, Georgia honored Otis Cis Drunk NFL
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  Speaker 2: great who played for the I guess it was the
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  Speaker 2: Oakland Raiders back then, right, and uh, yeah, he has
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  Speaker 2: a street where it's uh he's got an extra little
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  Speaker 2: Maryland Drive I think is what it's called. And it's
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  Speaker 2: Otis Cis Drunk Drive Honorary. So it's pretty cool anyway.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what they've done for Doug, right, They've they've
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  Speaker 2: given him some Otis Cis Drunk credit.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I just think it's cool. My grandfather knew Otis, so
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  Speaker 2: that's that's just kind of a cool uh cool tie
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  Speaker 2: in for all.
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  Speaker 4: That, I think it's really cool actually, And you know
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  Speaker 4: what's amazing about the city where you and I reside
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  Speaker 4: here is there are a lot of NFL greats that
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  Speaker 4: have actually come out of this region.
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  Speaker 2: Right, so it's cool.
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  Speaker 4: I will tell you that being a Broncos fan, Otis
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  Speaker 4: Cis Trunk was not one of my favorite.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, absolutely not.
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  Speaker 4: I get that, you know, the black and Gray we're not,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we're not high on our list growing up
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  Speaker 4: in Bronco Country in near Denver, Colorado. But but but
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  Speaker 4: certainly a fantastic player and a nice honor for Otis
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  Speaker 4: as well.
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  Speaker 2: Lalle Alzado's uncle lived here for a while and I
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: don't really know how he ended up in Columbus, but
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  Speaker 2: I knew him, so that was kind of kind of
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  Speaker 2: a weird coincidence. Two guys that actually played together.
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  Speaker 4: What's funny about that is my sister went to the
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  Speaker 4: same college as Lyle Alzada, which is yanked in college
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  Speaker 4: and yanked in South Dakota well, which there are not
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  Speaker 4: a lot of alum that you may encounter from Yankton College.
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  Speaker 4: It's not a very big place. But my sister and
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  Speaker 4: Lyle both went there, so you go.
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  Speaker 2: NASA has an announcement for their new lunar vehicle contractor
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  Speaker 2: expected in the coming weeks. And while I had that
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: cool tie with Doug Hurley, you've got a cool tide
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  Speaker 2: to this story.
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  Speaker 4: It's a very kind of Colorado centric series today. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I was just home in Colorado for Christmas. That's where
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: I grew up. And there's a company in Colorado, near Golden,
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  Speaker 4: Colorado called Lunar Outpost.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of a cool.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: If you want to be involved with manufacturing lunar outposts,
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: maybe name your company Lunar Outpost. That's probably a good idea,
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  Speaker 4: right there.
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  Speaker 2: It's a it's a good marketing strategy. It's a very
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  Speaker 2: it's the very least like.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: If you want to get noticed in the NFL draft,
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: name your child aman raw. Yeah you know it's that
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: kind of thing, right yeah.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: One of those deals or if you you know, are
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: able to name your company, uh, you know band aid
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: when you know that everybody's going to call all versions
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: of them band aids. It's the same kind of strategy,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: right it is. It is.
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  Speaker 4: So there's a company in Golden Colorado called Lunar Outpost,
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: and as it turns out, they are now narrowed down
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  Speaker 4: to one of three companies that will be helping NASA
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  Speaker 4: on an aspect of a lunar outpost. You see, if
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: you have a lunar outpost a house on the Moon,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: you might also need a lunar vehicle car on the Moon.
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  Speaker 4: And NASA has announced that there are three companies still
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: in consideration for being the prime contractor on the lunar car,
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: which they call the LTV or Lunar Terrain Vehicle, and
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: that Colorado based company, Lunar Outpost, is one of those.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: And I did happen to see this story when I
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: was in Colorado, so I figured i'd bring it to now.
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  Speaker 4: You might be wondering who are the other two companies, Well,
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: I think we might have talked about both of these
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: on the show before. For sure, we have Intuitive Machines,
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: which is a Texas based company. Intuitive Machines has actually
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: put vehicles on the surface of the Moon already. They
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: are one of the other two of the three contractors
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: total still vying for that LTV contract. The other one
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: is venturi Astro Lab, and we have talked about venturi
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Astro Lab on the show as well, because they are
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: making various components for future space stations. So they're a
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: California based company. So one company from Colorado, one company
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: from California, one company from Texas. Still in the vying
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: for the NASA Lunar Terrain Vehicle contract, and we wish
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: them all cool. Fact is this saw part of NASA's
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: Artemis campaign to send humans back to the Moon. Of course,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: their catchphrase is back to the Moon for good, the
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: double on toddre of the Yes, it's a good thing,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: but it's also like we're going to stay there permanently,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: and it's preparing them also for Mars exploration. So along
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: those lines, on December eighteenth, President Trump actually signed an
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: executive order directing the United States to return to the
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Moon within his second term or in other words, by
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty eight, to have a permanent outpost by twenty
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: thirty and also since that time, the new NASA administrator,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Jared Isaacman was recently quoted in an NBC interview that
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: the US will indeed return to the Moon during Trump's term.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: The lofty goal because it's a very short time period. It's,
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: shall we say, an accelerated time period. This is putting
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: additional pressure, of course, on NASA and on all of
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: their contractors and subcontractors to get that project Artemis back
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: to the service of the Moon, and I mean human
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: beings back to the service of the Moon, but Artemis
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: project to the service of the Moon, and they're gonna
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: need an LTV to do that. So this is a
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: really kind of important story. It's one component in many
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: things that need to happen to have that permanent presence
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: back on the Moon. And again Trump and Isaac been
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: saying by twenty thirty little.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Known fact, it's actually a triple on Tendra. They also
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: plan to honor the better than Ezra hit Good while
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: they're there.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's a little known fact. I'm really glad
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: you brought that one up, because I think that one
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: might have slipped my mind.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Norm McDonald's joke about the number one college ban being
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: better than Ezra the number two college ban Ezra, Yeah,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: great joke. More made of stars. Right after this, let's
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  Speaker 2: talk about this black hole. We uh seem to be
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: having a lot of black hole stories. Is it easier
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: to spot them now all our telescopes and things we have,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Are we finding them more quickly or more readily. Are
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: we just getting a better look at them? Is it
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: just science and action in a word?
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, yes, it's been. Our telescopes are getting better,
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: and yes we're using those better and improved telescopes to
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: find a lot of new and exotic objects out there,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: black holes being one of them. And this is a
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: great story about a specific event that so sometimes sometimes
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: you just find or discover objects, but sometimes you have
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: to actually monitor objects to see what they're doing over
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: a period of time. This is one of the latter story. So,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: this big black hole has flared up, for lack of
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: a better word, and it's it's flared up in such
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: a powerful and staggering way that astronomers have concluded that
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: it must have swallowed a giant star in an event
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: called a tidal disruption event, or a TD. And so
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: the I'm not sure exactly how this, I mean, I
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: have I have rough ideas, but I'm not exactly sure
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: of the whole scenario of how they came up with
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: a nickname. But they call it the whipp It and
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: it's not the song by Devo, it's the dog. So
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: they've nicknamed this very energetic event where it appears that
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: a black hole has swallowed a super giant star and
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: torn it apart. They called it the whipp it in
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: part because the official official designation for the object is
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: a twenty twenty four WPP. And after about the third
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: time in some kind of a meeting you have to
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: say that the designation at twenty twenty four WPP. You
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: just look around at your colleagues and go, why don't
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: we just call it the whipp it. You know, I've
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: got a whippet dog. I don't know, let's just call
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: it the whipp it. It's got most of those letters
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: in it, the whipp it. So anyway, so the whippet
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: is at twenty twenty four WPP. And again, friends, it
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: is a black hole erupting with energy. Now you might say, well, wait,
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: I thought energy didn't come out of a black hole.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: You would be correct, sir or ma'am. But here's the thing.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Before that material completely falls in, much of it is
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: stripped away and spaghettified, in other words, drawn out into
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: long strings of material, and some of that string string
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: email material Gases that are pulled into these shapes can
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: actually get caught up on what's known as the accretion
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: disc or the soap going down the drain, the ring
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: of material that's yet to fall in, and when that
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: stuff is superheated as it was in this event, it
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: can actually blast out parallel radio jets, allowing energy to
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: escape from the cataclysmic event taking place. So that's what's happened,
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: and the energy escaping in this manner is equivalent to
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: the energy of four hundred billion suns. Okay, let's put
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: that in perspective. That's the equivalent to the energy output
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: of every star in the entire Milky Way galaxy simultaneously,
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: all coming from one object. So that's why the Whippet
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: is really one of the largest cosmic explosions ever seen.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Check out the story on space dot com. Daniel Purley,
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: who's from Liverpool John Moore's University in the UK, who
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: is the leader of the team investigating the Whippet, maybe
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: even the person who called it the Whippet for the
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: first time, said these words quote. We discovered what we
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: think is a black hole merging with a massive companion star,
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: shredding it into a disc that feeds the black hole.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: It's a rare and awesome, awe inspiring phenomenon.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Even though we.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: Suspected what it was, it was still extraordinary. This was
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: many times more energetic than any similar event and more
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: than any known explosion powered by a collapse of a star.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Not only do these events help us identify black holes,
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: they provide a new way to identify where black holes occur,
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: and how they form and grow, and the physics of
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: how this happens. Unquote Daniel Purley space dot com. Check
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: out the story of the Whippet, possibly the largest inner
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: g output from a black hole swallowing a massive star
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: that we humans have ever witnessed.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about Columbus State Universities co Cola Space Science Center.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: I know in March you guys are rolling back into
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Music under the Dome with the series resuming and three
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: final shows for this I guess the school year.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: Because you guys are the fall, right, we decided to
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: break the calendar up and start it in July. You know,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: July is our January in the academic world. January is
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: our July.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: So you know, happy July.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Yes here anyway, So yeah, we're halfway through the through
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: our calendar year. Music under the Dome is certainly one
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: of our largest events that we have here at Colobus
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: State University's Coca Cola Space Science Center, and we love
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: when people come down and see these concerts. There are
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: some tickets available for the three remaining shows of this
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: academic year, and you can check out all of the
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: descriptions of those shows all the information just by going
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: visiting the website. Come visit us at www dot cc
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  Speaker 4: SSC dot org Charlie Charlie SamSam Charlie dot org, and
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: you can find out all of the events taking place
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: at Cocacola Space Science Center that includes the new release
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: of the calendar year not academic here, but the calendar
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: year Astronomy Night schedule which is coming out now. Check
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: it out on the Space Space Science Center's website www
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: dot cc SSC dot org. Find out the dates where
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: you can come and actually look through a telescope yourself
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: and enjoy exploring the universe with doctor Williams, our observatory director,
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: and our team of the Mobile Astronomy Program.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Sean and I thank you for listening and we will
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