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Joe Rogan Experience _2488 - James McCann · Luke's English Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Podcast Check it out.
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  Speaker 2: But Joe Willgan Experience Train by Day.
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  Speaker 3: Joe Rogan Podcast by name, all day everything.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me back. Good see my brother.
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  Speaker 2: Always great to see you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm good. It was fun having you at the Club Mouse.
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  Speaker 2: I was fucking terrified.
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  Speaker 1: You just look like you're back.
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  Speaker 2: No, I thought, I thought, that's it. I've been away
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  Speaker 2: for too long. I'm going to suck none of the
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  Speaker 2: news stuff's going to work. They'll see me, they'll go.
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  Speaker 2: He was wrong to come back. Fuck him off. It
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  Speaker 2: was so nice. It was so nice.
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  Speaker 1: You telling the story. I said, hold these thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I didn't know. You didn't. I didn't know.
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  Speaker 2: We'd never spoken about it.
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  Speaker 1: No, tell me the story.
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  Speaker 2: I well, that's why I came to America to start is.
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  Speaker 2: I got off at a job hosting a Catholic podcast
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  Speaker 2: and they fired me. As I packed up everything in Adelaide.
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  Speaker 2: This is like two and a bit years ago. I
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  Speaker 2: had the kids and the wife and on the way
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  Speaker 2: to America, I got fired and they said, we'll still
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  Speaker 2: pay your rent. It's in Steubenville, Ohio, beautiful Appalachian town,
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  Speaker 2: just outside of Pittsburgh. And yeah, it's where we were
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  Speaker 2: three months I was there, So.
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  Speaker 1: What did they see that they fired you?
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  Speaker 2: For a lot? They made a compilation the guy the
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  Speaker 2: guy who showed they were right to fire me. They
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  Speaker 2: were because it was a good, clean Catholic podcast. And
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  Speaker 2: then the business manager was like, there was a sketch
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  Speaker 2: about stabbing someone in the throat with an AIDS needle.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, he's just the word can't all the time.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, this is a sponsorship nightmare. Get him out.
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  Speaker 2: So I said okay, but they still said, well, we'll
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  Speaker 2: pay your rent for three months and you can figure
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  Speaker 2: something out. You still got a visa, and I was terrified.
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  Speaker 2: I was just in the snow kids, three kids, no job.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't have the money to go back home.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't go back home, Oh my god. And I
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  Speaker 2: had I didn't know that I had been passed at
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  Speaker 2: the Mothership because I didn't know how the system worked.
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  Speaker 2: So on the way in to go to Steubenville, where
• 1:55
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'll figure something out, I stopped in
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  Speaker 2: at Austin to see Shane. Shane said go and do
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  Speaker 2: the ship open mic. I did it. Adamigad said if
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  Speaker 2: you're ever in town, come back we'll pay for sports.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know that meant I was past. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: know I could work here. I just thought he was like,
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  Speaker 2: I could audition again. And then so I had three
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  Speaker 2: confronting months in the snow beautiful part of the world.
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  Speaker 2: It was the most terrified I've ever been in.
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  Speaker 4: My Australian that's from Ohio.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 4: I love it, the most beautiful part of the world.
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  Speaker 4: I loved it.
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  Speaker 2: I watched I went back. I watched that Wild Whites
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  Speaker 2: of West Virginia. It looks exactly like that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that area is gorgeous.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's God's country, but also so abandoned by Like
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  Speaker 2: the potholes are crazy. I saw real heroin addicts. I'd
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  Speaker 2: never really seen heroin addicts before, just sleepy people. I
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  Speaker 2: saw street prostitutes that's still going on.
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  Speaker 1: And this is a small town.
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  Speaker 2: This is a small town. This is I went there.
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  Speaker 2: There are Catholics have moved there to try and like
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  Speaker 2: fix it. It was where Dean Martin was from. The
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  Speaker 2: Wu Tang clan kind of started out there. That island.
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  Speaker 2: Not yes, but I think it's like the Rizza's auntie
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  Speaker 2: lived there and they moved out there and then they
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  Speaker 2: got involved in rap in the Pittsburgh I believe I'm
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  Speaker 2: right about that. They don't have a mural for them.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: But it's great. There's a Yeah, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: Catholic content creators there and they're trying to take over town.
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  Speaker 2: There's I went there originally because my New Polity is
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  Speaker 2: like my favorite magazine, and I got to meet the
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  Speaker 2: guys who made it. I was so excited.
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  Speaker 1: So how did they hire you? Wu Tang's Rizza. I
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  Speaker 1: got chances Stregovinville.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, they all come over to visit him.
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  Speaker 1: This he discussed a largely undocumented era of his life
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  Speaker 1: in which Pittsburgh played a role. Woah.
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  Speaker 2: And that's one of the first conversations we had. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, you said something about Pittsburgh that wasn't flattering.
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  Speaker 2: I said, I love Pittsburgh, and you're like, you don't
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  Speaker 2: know anything. You're a foreigner, you don't know anything about America.
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  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh is a horrible place. I was like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: There was good, It's just a little depressing. Do you see,
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  Speaker 1: Like the thing about a lot of those sort of
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  Speaker 1: industrial kind of towns. There's not a ton of options
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  Speaker 1: for people now. Pittsburgh more so than like the place
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  Speaker 1: that you were in. But like when you get to
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  Speaker 1: a place where there's not a lot of options and
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  Speaker 1: then you see real poverty, like this is poverty with
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  Speaker 1: no solutions, you know what I mean. Not Pittsburgh, you know, Pitts.
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  Speaker 2: Just outside of Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 1: I was more ficial with you.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: I saw things in West Virginia that were pretty confronting
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  Speaker 2: and like you know that, like cake and some of
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  Speaker 2: it's great, some of the things from the poverty, wonderful
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  Speaker 2: drive through cigarette shop. I loved having drive through cigarettes,
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  Speaker 2: you know, just like trying to get the kids to sleep.
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  Speaker 2: My wife's upset because I got her in a foreign
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  Speaker 2: like again, she never signed up. Let's move to America.
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  Speaker 2: She was like, we'll go for three months, right, And
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  Speaker 2: I was like, fuck, I'm unemployed. I better quickly figure
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  Speaker 2: out how to be stand up comedian. I was busting
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  Speaker 2: out of Steubenville. I like, I caught the I went,
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  Speaker 2: I got it. Someone gave me a lift to Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 2: This is when I saw the worst stuff. I got
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  Speaker 2: a lift to Pittsburgh, and then I caught the Greyhound
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  Speaker 2: from Pittsburgh to Cleveland to open for Sam Talent who
• 5:17
  Speaker 2: let me open, unbelievably let me open. I met him Autralia. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: such a good and but like that bus trip from
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  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh to Cleveland was it was the most upsetting, Oh man,
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  Speaker 2: I was. People were spitting on the ground at the
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  Speaker 2: bus station. I like an immigrant, like an illegal immigrant.
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  Speaker 2: Woman came and tried to give me a phone. I
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  Speaker 2: remember that vividly.
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  Speaker 1: Give you.
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  Speaker 2: She tried to give me a free phone. She's like,
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  Speaker 2: you can have this because she said, she said, you're
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  Speaker 2: on benefits. Everyone on benefits gets a free phone. It
• 5:46
  Speaker 2: was some like policy. She just assumed I was on
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  Speaker 2: benefits because I was at the Greyhound bus.
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  Speaker 1: Stage and she was illegal.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if she was illegal, but she had
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  Speaker 2: a strong accent and like a weird dress and a
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  Speaker 2: baby on her back and a sack full of phones,
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  Speaker 2: a sack full of it, like a sacophones.
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  Speaker 1: So she was somehow in charge of distributing pre phones
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  Speaker 1: to people.
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  Speaker 2: I'll never truly know what that was about.
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  Speaker 1: Boy, I would have investigated further.
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  Speaker 2: There was Uh. I was scared. I was just scared.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, that's a huge African sitting on the ground.
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  Speaker 2: And then after that I sat next to a guy
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  Speaker 2: who's having a full psychotic episode. I think we follow
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: each other on Instagram. Now he's got one of his
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  Speaker 2: Instagram really but yeah, and he told me the secrets
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  Speaker 2: about Crispin Why, that he was a good man.
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  Speaker 1: The wrestler.
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  Speaker 2: He killed his family. Yeah, but this guy tried to
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  Speaker 2: tell me only he was. It's like burnt. He said,
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  Speaker 2: he only killed his family to send them to God.
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  Speaker 2: And you can't blame a man for that. All right,
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  Speaker 2: this is only a three hour bus trip. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to get through this. We're going to be fine. Oh
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  Speaker 2: boy ah man, But I did. I did enjoy my
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  Speaker 2: time in that part of the world.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you probably enjoy it now that it's over.
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  Speaker 2: You make a good point. Yeah, there's some things. If
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  Speaker 2: you asked me at the time, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: There's some things that are not fun while they're happening,
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  Speaker 1: but are really fun once you got through it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I remember the people I met along the way.
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  Speaker 2: I remember driving to Austin and like it was like
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  Speaker 2: spring was start. Like the further south we got, the
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  Speaker 2: more lash it became. Yeah, I was like, fuck, I
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  Speaker 2: might be okay. And then someone let me stay in
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  Speaker 2: their house. I didn't have a house to stay in.
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  Speaker 2: So my fa a podcast listener's friend, let us stay
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  Speaker 2: in there with your family, with my whole family, let
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  Speaker 2: us house sit for them while they were in Japan.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: The whole time, it was like, if I don't get
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  Speaker 2: if I don't get past to the mother ship. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think people should come here and live in
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  Speaker 2: their cars with their family, but it does.
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  Speaker 1: You know, light's a fire under your ass, wed, Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's like if you're forced into action. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like you had no not just yourself like you could
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  Speaker 1: a woe was me. But when you're a father and
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  Speaker 1: a husband, you have children. Yeah, and people who do
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  Speaker 1: not have children do not understand the drive that it
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  Speaker 1: gives you to protect and care for those little people.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy. So if you'll find something, well, I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't understand how people do it without Like I meet
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  Speaker 2: men who are really driven and motivated and they have
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  Speaker 2: no kids, but they're like every day they're working out.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what their motivation is before I had kids.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think they're in a game? They're playing
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  Speaker 1: a game. Yeah, they're just playing this game of accumulate
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  Speaker 1: the most stuff, be able to brag about the most
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  Speaker 1: stuff you have.
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  Speaker 2: So much rather why I would rather not do anything
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  Speaker 2: if I'd enjoy.
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  Speaker 1: But not really because you love doing comedy.
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  Speaker 2: I love doing comedy, but I never, before I had kids,
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  Speaker 2: was trying to do comedy that people would enjoy. Do
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: I think that is also though, because you were living
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  Speaker 1: in Australia and there's limited options. Right, Australian system is
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  Speaker 1: very different. It's very it's mostly festival driven, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Festal driven, and it's uh to a much greater extent.
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  Speaker 2: I've thought about this, it's like industry driven.
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  Speaker 1: Like industry, Yeah, you don't have witch industry.
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  Speaker 2: Like managers and agents, which is one role in Australia,
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  Speaker 2: but they they are deciding who's succeeding, and TV people
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  Speaker 2: are deciding who's succeeding. Whereas like in America, everybody is
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  Speaker 2: on the road, everybody has one or two openers, and
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: there there's a whole lineage of who brought who up
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  Speaker 2: in the business, Like Dan Soda had Nick Mullin, Tim
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  Speaker 2: Dillon and Shane Gillis opened for him, like those were
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  Speaker 2: his openers and not because they were successful or someone
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  Speaker 2: wanted them to thrive. He just thought they were funny people,
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  Speaker 2: and they got to be his openers. And you, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know who you were opening for, but you have
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  Speaker 2: people who come up and well.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't get to really do it. I didn't have
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  Speaker 1: it that way. I do it that way, but I
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  Speaker 1: didn't have it that way. I didn't really come up
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  Speaker 1: with anybody where I opened for anybody. I had a
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  Speaker 1: very weird path to success.
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  Speaker 2: You also, you got to go to la and just
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  Speaker 2: be in the million, Like there's a scene there. There's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: I came out to Deli with a job already. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I was on a sitcom already.
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  Speaker 2: You started in Boston.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, start in Boston. Look, it's very embarrassing how lucky
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  Speaker 1: I am. I'm like one of the luckiest people that's
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  Speaker 1: ever lived. Like it's stumble upon success after success. So
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: when I was six years into comedy, I was already
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  Speaker 1: on TV. So I was three years into comedy. I
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: was basically barely getting paid. I was barely a professional.
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  Speaker 1: Like I was getting some spots and bars and stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that. I was making money, but I was driving limousines.
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: I was doing odd jobs doing different things, and I
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: was also still teaching at the time. I was still
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: teaching taekwondo for the first maybe six months or so
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  Speaker 1: when I was twenty one. I think I kept teaching
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: and then I eventually had to quit because I realized
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: I could not commit to doing both things. I don't
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: want to half ask my students, yeah, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to have so So for the first two three
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  Speaker 1: years of common barely you know, I'm barely a comedian.
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  Speaker 1: Just I'm trying. I'm trying to do it. I'm getting
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  Speaker 1: some laughs. I met a manager as an open micer,
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  Speaker 1: and he brought me to New York and he's still
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  Speaker 1: my manager today.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, the best. I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's total luck.
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  Speaker 2: Total You also a super handsome guy. I've seen I've
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: seen you then.
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  Speaker 1: I was boy, pretty, you look like a fucking different person.
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  Speaker 2: First off, I'm not worse. It is crazy. But also
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: a lot of those comics who you started with, who
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: maybe it took longer, I won't say hideous, but they
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: don't they didn't look well.
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  Speaker 1: That definitely helped me get on television. It definitely helped
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  Speaker 1: me get on television. So I did the MTVA a
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: half hour comedy hour in nineteen ninety three, I believe
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  Speaker 1: it was. And next thing you know, I had a
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  Speaker 1: development deal and next thing you know, I was on
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  Speaker 1: a sitcom and living out here, I mean living.
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  Speaker 2: In last But do you think it doesn't happen for people?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think there's anyone in America who has a
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: good work ethic and is really talented that it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: work out for in comedy? What does it work out?
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  Speaker 1: If you have to have a health issue, health issue
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  Speaker 1: or a really horrible relationship, those things could do you in.
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  Speaker 2: Like you could have a drug problem, Yeah, that'll do
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  Speaker 2: you in. Gamble your money way, that.
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  Speaker 1: Could do you into. Yeah, Yeah, there's a bunch of
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: things that can do you in.
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  Speaker 2: But it's crazy like that. There are like not a
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  Speaker 2: lot of undiscovered geniuses in America in the same way,
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  Speaker 2: like people will want to make money off of you
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: if you've got.
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: It, yeah, but there's some people that are just really
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: horrible at marketing, like Brian Holtzman for instance. Yeah, right,
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: we have to kind of like force Brian Holtzman into
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  Speaker 1: the modern era.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, And he's.
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  Speaker 1: Always been a comics comic and he's always been a
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: guy that we would all sit in the back of
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: the room at the at the store and watch. But
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: he was always getting these terrible spots. And it wasn't
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: until we broke because he never went on the road.
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  Speaker 1: He never one and I started out together, so at
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: the store together at ninety four. We're both like I
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: think he came in ninety three and I came a
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: year later, and he.
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  Speaker 2: Was working for like PanAm or something.
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  Speaker 1: He was a dog catcher for a while, Yeah, he was.
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  Speaker 1: I think he might have been a meter maid.
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  Speaker 2: Is he here at the I haven't seen him yet.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, he's here all the time, okay the time. I
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: don't know if he goes back and forth, but he
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: lives out here all the time. He's the best.
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  Speaker 2: I went to church with him. I don't know even
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  Speaker 2: if I should tell this story, but I would. We
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: went to church together once and it was really lovely.
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: He took me out for breakfast afterwards because he's Catholic,
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  Speaker 2: And it was so funny because the priest at the end,
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: like I have the announcements, and one of the things
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: is like they're doing a parish car They're doing like, uh,
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: what do you call it? Like like a talent show
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  Speaker 2: for everybody. He's just announcing this to the whole like
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  Speaker 2: three hundred people, and Brian goes. He goes there every week.
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  Speaker 2: They go. So if anyone's got a skill, if anyone's
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: a juggler, anyone's a comedian, come and do that for
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  Speaker 2: the talent show for everybody. And he gave no impression
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  Speaker 2: that he would be doing it. But I've loved you
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  Speaker 2: fucking spoon fast japs. I know he would be terrified
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  Speaker 2: and upshit if he had brought that. He's the sweetest man,
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: and I don't want to give that away if people
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: don't know. He's a lovely man.
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  Speaker 1: He's a great guy in real life. He always was,
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: always was like I've known him forever, so so he's
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: what I would say is like an undiscovered genius because
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: he was a guy just fucking killing it. But never
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: went on the road. He only worked a store. I
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: rarely saw him even at like the laugh Factory or
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: the improv I don't I don't know if I could
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: ever recall seeing him at those places.
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  Speaker 2: But he had he had to consciously make the decision
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  Speaker 2: not to go on the road.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's hard because it's not offered to you. You know,
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: it's like, how do you do it? If you just
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: do all your sets at the store, you kind of
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: have to have someone take you with them, right. So
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: what happened with me is I mostly did the road
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: around New York and Connecticut. So when I moved to
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: New York and I guess a ninety one ish, Yeah,
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: so probably like ninety one ish. And so when I
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: moved there, the real money, like to be able to
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: pay bills, was in the road. It was not in
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: New York City. New York City did not pay very well.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: You can get a lot of spots, but also I
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: was really new, so maybe I couldn't have got a
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: lot of spots, but I could get a lot of
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: spots doing gigs for like John Schuler. He had a
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: whole Connecticut run that you could do. There were great gigs.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: They payed like three hundred bucks a night. Or you
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: could do gonzo at a bunch of New Jersey and
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: those paid really well.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: Did this collapse at some point, No, there's still.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Probably some sort of a network, but there was like
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: road shows.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: There's a Louis has a story on someone's podcast about
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: like crashing his motorcycle and then like a bubble boosting.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he was speaking a bubble burst.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: He was like, comedy all of a sudden, clubs start
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: at the clubs.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Well, there's been ups and downs with that. There was
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: there was. I came in to comedy in eighty eight,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: and apparently in eighty four in Boston it was even better. Yeah,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: like there was like a peak, and I'm like, really
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: because I came in, it was amazing. There was clubs everywhere, like, nah,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: you missed it. So there's always been like up and
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: down of clubs closing club but like New York is
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: on the rise right now. There's a bunch of clubs
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: that have opened up in New York. New York's comedy
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: right now is fucking doing great.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: I hope, yeah, I hope they can figure it out. Well,
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: I was in last time I was in LA. The
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: spirit was so I was never in La for it
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: being great. But I've heard all the stories about yeah,
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: everyone's sports car at the back of that thing, and
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: there's this gig and that gig, and then I was
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: everybody like has no sense that it's ever going to
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: work for them, Like, no one's even bothered to It's
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: like three podcasts in La now that people don't don't
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: want to talk it down, but like here, everybody is
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: so hopeful in Austin, and I can look at like
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Peyton made it like last night, I'm looking at that
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: green room, like all of these people have money in
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: a touring and they came here and they got to
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: do it, and the hope and the adventure. And when
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: I was in LA, everyone was just you might have
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: picked a bat.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: But it's also like the Comedy Store has always.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Been that seems like it's getting better.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is getting better. Well, it's definitely getting better
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: because Rose is running it. Yeah she's awesome. But I
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: think the Comedy Store has always been a top down vibe.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: And if there was a bunch of like big name
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: now national acts that were really cool and fun to
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: hang out with, then was a great vibe. And when
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: they're gone, it always felt empty. It always felt weird.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: And this is how it was with me in the
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: nineties when I was there, and I think that's how
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: it is now. We're all out here now, yeah, you know,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: and it's like and then people kind of feel abandoned,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: so they feel sad you know it feels and then
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: they get a little mad at you. Look you fucking
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: me doing in Austin, And so it develops a stupid rift,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: which is the dumbest thing ever. We're all on the
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: same team. And also you could work here too, Like
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: it's so dumb. Yeah, like, but the rift is a
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: real thing. But it's like, you have to be around
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: a bunch of people that are having a good time
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: to have a good time. You can't be the only
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: person having a good time.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: And the rifts can be good. The rift can motivate
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: people to have you seen Lamas together.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: No, what's he doing.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: He's just going hot on New York people and saying
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: in Austin's number one. He's trying to He's doing the
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: same thing they would do into him.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: But I believe I think New York is fucking I
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: think he gets very comedy. There's so many great comics,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Norman and Solder and fucking Andrew Schultz and David Tells
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: the best live.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know anyone comedians in New York. I don't
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: see how you can have kids.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Gaffigan raised all his kids there and he in the city. Yeah,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: and he's super clean Catholic guy.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how he's got some money to
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: meet him.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: First of all, he's got some money. Money has got
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: to help send him to a nice place to go
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: to school where they're not going to get eaten.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I think the trans thing is done in the schools.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's dropped off significantly.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: I had really because we were home schooling, and I
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: was just aware because my dad's a teacher, and he
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: would he would say, I don't want to get him
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: into trouble, but he would report. He would report that
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: the numbers were developing. And I think as a social phenomenon,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: it seems to have like now everyone just says they
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: have an anxiety disorder.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Well, you know when it dropped off, like noticeably when
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: when Elon bought Twitter.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: We just stop pumping the content.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Well, all of a sudden, you could say whatever you wanted, yeah,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: and so you could make fun of it now and
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: then people realize, oh, this is a completely falsely propped
• 19:07
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• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I quit old nicotine, you have it? Do you have alcohol? Oh?
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I have a drink. You can get you some alcohol?
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: All right? If I could have a whiskey, I quit.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I quit old nicotine.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Uh, what happened?
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: I just haven't hot palpitations. I was doing it a lot.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I had a problem. I cannot do a little bit.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I see, you'll just like you'll be backstayding, You'll have
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: one cigarette and you're fine. Yeah. I can't.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: And I never smoke outside of right before a show.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, I but I'm all pad to you.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I can't do that.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I know how to shut things off, and I also regulate,
• 19:44
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• 19:46
  Speaker 1: an issue like the nicotine pouches, I can just stop them.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I've gone on vacation and just not take them and
• 19:52
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  Speaker 2: I was quitting going back when I went back to
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• 21:08
  Speaker 2: I think that was the closest to serious unpleasant really,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: and I think I have got through to abusive. But man,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: there was a lot of shouting at the family.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: What the fuck are you doing?
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Put that down? I was not a happy How long
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: did it last? It was for a month. I was
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: real bad. It's real bad.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: That's crazy for me. I don't know what it is, man,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I just I could just put it alone, leave it alone,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: and I'm fine. And I monitored myself, like I went
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: on vacation for like eight days with the family, and
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I said, all I know, nicotine pouches. Let's see what happens.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: So see fine, see if I go crazy? Yeah, I
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: was waiting nothing, nothing, hip nothing was it you with
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: the pouches? Was the pouches.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Loved the patches. And also I got on the patches
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: to get off the cigarettes, and then I had to
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: go on the cigarettes to get off the patches. And
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: then I was having cigarettes and patches and the gun,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: and my het would star to go and my mood
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• 22:07
  Speaker 1: See. I get addicted to things like doing things like
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: real bad like you used to get addicted archery. Sure,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: but the thing about archer is you can only do
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: it so much. Archery is good because it's you know,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: my bow is eighty pounds to pull back, and so
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: if I'm pulling it back and I have another one
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: that's ninety and so when I'm pulling it back eighty pounds,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: you can only do that so many times. You know,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I could do that maybe one hundred times in a
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: day and my fucking shoulders blown out.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: If you're hunting die, I mean, you're not shooting very often,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: but you wouldn't be able to get so tied that
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: if you can no situation, no, no, no no.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: When you're hunting, first of all, you're jacked up with adrenaline,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: like like you could pull a branch off a fucking tree.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: You're you're so jacked up with adrenaline. You're just trying
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: to stay calm. Like when you're about to pull your boat.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: The bow come bowls back effortlessly. It's like it's like
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: you don't even notice that it's it pulls back so easy.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: You're so ramped up you're not even thinking.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: How often are you doing that?
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Bow hunting? Yeah, seriously, only a couple times a year
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: because I'm elk hunting, you know, and if I get
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: an elk, yes, okay, it's September, September and October those
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: are the time. But in Texas we hunt pigs. Sometimes
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: we have a lease out here, so we'll go and
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: hunt with a few of my friends from Archery Country.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Tyler uh, and my friend Evan from
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Black Rifle Coffee, we'll go out.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: To the pigs. Oh, they're everywhere.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: They're infested with wild pigs.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Are all over Texas, thank you.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: There's millions of them, like literally millions of them. Like
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: one time they opened up a highway, Like they built
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: this new highway and the day it opened up, they
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: had like this fucking ridiculous amount of accidents because people
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: were hitting wild pigs because there were so many wild
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: pigs out there that they're just crashing into them on
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: the road with this new highway. Yeah, because the pigs
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: had never seen cars before on this spot because they
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: hadn't finished the road yet, and then all of a sudden,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: there's cars everywhere. These wild pigs are just getting fucking.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: What did they they get it? Because in Australia when
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: they have a kangaroo problem, and it's similar thing. Cheeze,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: God bliss, thank you, God blessed. They they gettling gun
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: them from the sky. If they do that here, they
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: do that here at a helicopters.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: You could do it if you want, while you're in town.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I'll set it up.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: You know I could do this. I would feel sad.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I would feel guilty. Yeah, that would not a sporting
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: way to start hunting, would be.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: The it's a different shinegunting because it's a necessity hunting, right,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I want to eat what I kill. If I kill something,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I want to eat it. And the thing about these
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: wild pigs is they're gunning down twenty thirty forty of
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: them in a day. They're doing the amount of helicopters
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: with machine guns. There's a bunch of companies that do it.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: There's there's a video of Ted Nugent and this guy
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: named pig Man. Pig Man is like a famous bow
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: hunter that lives in Texas and they it's called a
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: porcalypse now and that they're in a They're a helicopter,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Ted new Ugit and pig Man and a helicopter and
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: they gunned down like two hundred and forty pigs and
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: a half hour not podcasts. Yeah, hunting show.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Would be a great podcast. He's yeah, he's a pig
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: killing his name is Brian.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: His name is Brian, but it's pig Man. Brian just
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: kills a lot of wild pigs. But it's a necessity.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Here.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Look at this is but you have to understand how
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: many pigs they have out here, and the kind of
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: damage that's pig man and the kind of damage that
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: these pigs do to agriculture. You know, they go through
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: fences and they fuck up, livestock gets out and there's
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of shit with God. Yeah, oh it's crazy.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Is this the argument for bringing wolves back in No? No,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I'm against it, but I don't understand the what is
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: the most pro Is there one sensible argument for bringing
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: back in IPI's predator is to.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Well, there's arguments for it. You could make an argument
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: for it. The problem is you do not understand. No
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: one understands what the ultimate result is going to be
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: of introducing predators. There is a very strong reason why
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: they eradicated wolves from the West Coast, Yeah, and from
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the United States because they fucking kill everything. They're super
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: smart apex predators. They work in packs, unlike any other animal.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: They're very different, and they kill everything and you can't
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: do shit about them. And they kill people.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Also, like in the UK they got rid of them
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: hundreds of years ago. Yes, it's like they celebrated it,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: and they got rid of in America too, Yeah.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, and now these fucking greenies, these softies that
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: really don't understand nature want to bring them back. So
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: there's a good argument in some ways that having some
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: predators would help. But the predators were slowly moving their
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: way back into these areas anyway, so they never eradicated
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: them from Canada. So they would come down from Canada
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: and make their way into Minnesota, make their way into Iowa,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: make their way into not Iowa, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana. They
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: had like a small amount of wolves were kind of
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: making their way in. Then they reintroduced a bunch of
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: them into Montana in the nineteen nineties into Yellowstone. That
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: changed everything. That changed everything. It dropped the elk population
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: by down to like forty percent of what it used
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: to be, which many people argue is actually a good
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: thing because there was no predators in terms of like
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: like there's mountain lions, but mountain lions don't kill that
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: many elk. They'll kill one like a week.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Like families go to Yellowstone. Mm hmm. Yeah, so now
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: the's just wolves.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the wolves are not fucking with the people
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: at Yellowstone. They really are just concentrating on the animals
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: and they've like really knocked down the elk population substantially.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: But now they have an open hunting season on wolves
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: in Montana because the numbers got a lot higher than
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: they should be. Right, So now, like I know guys
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: who hunt wolves and they go on wolf it's very difficult.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: It sounds more dangerous and no, it's not that pleasant
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: than hunting milk.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Well, it is dangerous, and that it is a predator
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: and if you do get surrounded by them, they decide
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: to eat you and you're out of bullets, you could
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: be fucked. But for the most part, they're very difficult
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: to hunt. They're very difficult to find. They're also very
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: difficult to get in range. They're fucking clever. They're clever,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: and once they realize they're being hunted, and then once
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: they realize that people are a problem, they fucking steer
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: way clear.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: What's the ideological reason for wanting them back? Just that
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: they nature but focus on the bees.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: You know, Well, there's people that don't like hunting. And
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: for people that don't like hunting, they want nature to
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: balance itself out. So the people that don't like the
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: idea of humans killing and eating animals, Yeah, they don't
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: like them going out into the wild and killing wild animals,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: So they want something else to kill those wild animals,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: so then they bring in mountain lions, or then they
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: bring in wolves, and then they think that nature is
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: going to sort itself out, that has to do it.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Why is it okay for them to This is the
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: vegetarian argument that I never understand is that death occurs
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: in nature. Animals are eating other animals, right, so if
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: it's wrong to kill any animals, should we intervene? Should
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: kill the mountains? From killing fox? Was one of my
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: favorite uhh.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Vegan cat?
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Is it not a fox? Do you? It's very sick?
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Literally, is a true story. Yeah, Like this lady was
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: saying mean things to me on Twitter or Instagram, and
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: I saw one of the things on her page and
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: went to their page that said hashtag vegan cat and
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I was like no, and so that I clicked on it,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: and it's all cats that look like they've been stuck
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: in a house with a gas leak.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: But maybe they got me started searching vegan animals because
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: vegan fox. I definitely read a lot about after that.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's people that are vegan dogs. They either dogs,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: but you're basically you can kind of get away with it.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: A little bit with a dog. But cats are what's
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: called obligate predators.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: They only obligated to pray.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they only eat meat. That's all they eat. That's it.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: They're just predators. They're full on murderous machines. Like house
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: cats are some of the most murderous creatures on Earth.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: They killed billions of manimal Yeah, as soon as you die, as.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Soon as you die, like his dogs will give you weeks.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: But the heads on how starving they are.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: You know, if they if they're starving to death, their
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: instincts kick in and they eat you. But cats just
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: start eating you. They're like, oh look eyeballs.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: M well, you get to get well, you get to
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: get an animal you have you have dogs. You have
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: one dog to two dogs. And you don't run the
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Instagram pages for these someone's running their family. Yeah.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: So we got a little guy named Charlie. He is
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: a King Charles King Charles Cavalier Spaniel. This is the
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: furthest animal away from wolf that is possible, like they
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: all came from wolves. He's the furthest from wolf is No,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: he's this big, he's adorable.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Feeling and holding him you.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I just give him kisses. He's sweetie though. That's what
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: they look like. Yeah, that's what they look like. I mean,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: come on, look at that face. They're just so sweet.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: They're so happy just to be around you, and they're
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: just so loving. And they like he makes sounds like
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: a person. Like he was doing something like he was
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: licking all this water that was coming off of a
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: drain and I go, hey, stop doing that, and I
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: picked all he went ah that dog.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: But they don't. They don't make me feel sad. They're
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: a little dog who look interesting.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Oh that's it, that's Charlie, make.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Me very sad. I think about pugs a lot, and
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: they upset me. And the and the long dogs, like
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: the sausage dogs with the back problems, anything that looks like.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: It, right, it's ready to adopt. No, no, I know
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: what you mean. I know what you mean.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Like retrievers. Great, yeah, I have one of those two. Yeah, yeah,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: it's my favorite.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Those two dogs.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Great.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: This is not like a pug. They're very active. They're
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: really they're they're very it's like a wooded dog. It's
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: a fucking dog that's just like a house dog. They're
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: just like a little love machine, just a little pet.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: He's a sweet, sweet little guy, like he's the best.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: He's so nice, he's like so and he just relentlessly
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: tortures my dog, Marshall, the big dog. Yeah, who's the
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: most tolerant dog on earth. He just lays there and
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: the dog the puppies like, ah, like biting him and
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: biting his ear. He's a year old and so about
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: him for whatever? Eight months? I guess, like, how how
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: many months they give him to you? Three months old
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: something like that. How old are puppies when you get them?
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: There should be I think eight weeks old.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, so we probably had for ten months.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: He's fucking adorable.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: You cannot travel with a dog.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: No, you have to get them all kinds of tried. Yeah,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: he got in big trouble for that, right.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: I think that was the beginning of the end of
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: that marriage.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I think it's from the moment he said to get married,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: happy until that dog problem.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: But the guy who there was a politician who stopped
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Johnny DApp who was like he came out and said,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: we're going to destroy his dogs, and then everyone made
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: fun of him in America. But that guy is now
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: doing he's like being in the popular emergent populist right
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: in Australia over the last six months.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: And with he got he wanted to kill giant depth dogs.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah it's a great speed. He was like, I don't
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: care if you are People Magazine and sixtiest Man of
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the Year, get your dogs out. Why he was a deal. Ah,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: we have no rabies. We have we we're very precious
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: about the border. That's all we've got. His name is
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Barnaby Joyce. He is sick.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Demand the dogs leave the country within forty eight to
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: fifty hours or you've put down citing strict quarantine laws
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: designed to protect diseases like rabies. But here's the thing,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: just test them dog rabies. This is probably pretty quick.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Barnaby Joyce drunk, so this is shut. Not long after
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: that an issue with the yeah pistol and boo, yeah go.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Barnaby Joyce drunk. They caught him on the streets of
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: our like of Canberra, which is where the kapal is
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: and he was just passed out in this straight there
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: he is down the bottom yeah the bottom was yeah,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: but he's uh, it's just he's just lying on the street.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Where was it. It wasn't that long ago, a Joyce
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: man was in the government.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Good, what's wrong. It's a safe place to live. I
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: was walking back to my accommodations after Parliament rose at
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: ten pm. Oh that's all he was doing, just walking
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: back to his accommodation.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I do like him a lot.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Look, he's just taking a nap, he's just chilling. We
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: have a strong walk, yeah, man, give the guy a break.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: It's kick it with. Finally, we were the last country
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: to have like a right wing populist thing happened. You
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: guys had the Trump and then England is having it
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: happened with like in a big way. It's really starting
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: to swing there.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: So it's swinging right now and for the first.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Time it's starting up. Yeah.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: And what's what's causing that terrorist attack?
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Was not good? Yeah. And then also running out of
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: petrol really has upset people. We don't have we don't
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: make our own gas. We had two refineries, one of
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: them accidentally blew up a week ago.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Do you think it accidentally blew up?
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: I have no comment to make.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: What do you think?
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: No, I think probably someone It seems like real bad luck.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Seems like it.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, they would have been doing it like max capacity.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Maybe they did it past when it was safe, but
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: it's not. I thought I wasn't going to make it
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: out of the country because they were out of gas.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Flight started to get canceled. Yeah, so I made it.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: We'll see if I can get back and if you can't,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: well I'll just stands for another con. I'm sorry, honey,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: just got last. There's no choice. I'm not going to
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: get any work here. It is so nice getting the doer.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: It is so nice having a club that. No, it's
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: like there's four cities in the world where you can
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: do it. I think about this a lot. There's nowhere
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: like in America there's three, and there'd be London. That's it.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: That's it that there's like multiple rooms with lineup shows
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: every night of the week, right, so people can just
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: go and run ten fifteen minutes. Yeah, and like at
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: a good room with people and get paid and get paid.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I mean you need all of those factors to be
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: able to do it, and.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: You also need around you. Yes, this is one of
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: the things that we were talking about last night in
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: the green room, Like you know, me and ari Ri
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Shpears in town and we were saying, you can't be
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: like the best comic in the world and just live
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: in a small town in you know, Cincinnati. It's like
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: it doesn't exist by yourself, doesn't exist. Comedy doesn't exist right.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: In a little town in Arizona. And the pressure seems
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: to have driven that comedy club owner right over the edge.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Stanhope's boy. So that guy was crazy already, right.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: I didn't know a thing about it. I just didn't
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: give the speech.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Well, if he's hanging with Stanhope, you know, Stanhope tends
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: to collect some people.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: That are all fringe. I'm not blaming.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: That's a different scene, right, Like Stanhope, you know, was
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: just kind of being out there by himself. And it
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: didn't even have a comedy club for the longest time
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: while he lived there. It wasn't like there was a
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: whole comedy scene there in Bisbee's like.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Twenty people, it's very small.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he knows everybody, right, But the Austin thing was
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: very different. Like we were stuck here. There's there was
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: not a lot of options. We could have gone to Houston,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: could have gone to Dallas, maybe Nashville, Noa, maybe Florida.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: There was no place else so that we were allowed
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: to do comedy.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Nashville is would be the next one actually trying.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Nashville's got Zanies, which is awesome. That's a great club.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: They have beat They got Thea there, They've Nate and.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Theo both lived there. But I don't know how many
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: sets they're doing in town. You know, Nate is doing
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: fucking stadiums, He's doing these giant places all over the world,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: and THEO is killing it and he's got.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: One of the best podcasts in the world. But they're
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: definitely there are like Nashville comics who have come out
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: who I see around the place. You're doing really well.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Sure, I'm sure there's a smaller scene, but in terms
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: of like a lot of work, Austin's the spot right now,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: because there's seven clubs on our street. Hold on, that's
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: nuts within a block radius. You've got Creaking the Cave,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: which is over on Seventh. You've got Sunset, which is
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: right next to us. You've got Black Rabbits, You've got
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: the Velveta Room.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm gonna count Shakespeare's next door. Yeah, oh allow
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: that they do comedy.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: But if you want to have the Belvida Room, that
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: place has been around forever.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: It's been around forever. And uh is the gay cabaret
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: next door. I think it's expressed the gay. I just
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: call it a gay you like going in there. I
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: went there one one evening. I was having a full
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: mental breakdown. I don't know why, just a classic, you know.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Out of nowhere, you know the kids.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of pressure. Maybe the act wasn't working.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Maybe I've been on the road, I don't know, and
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: I was down. I was depressed, and I wandered into
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: them doing their the estes Folly's shop. I just set
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: up the back and I had a pina kolada and
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: they were all like, there was a magician. There was
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: just a very camp magician and then they're singing like
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: campy show to you uns about the Supreme Court or
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: something like they're still doing S and L style sketches.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: And it was like, you know, it was dumb and
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: it was hokey, but it made me so happy just
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: to like have people hapen a good time, razzle, dazzled, smiling,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: there was no bitterness, happiness, Yeah, and it made me
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: want to fix my act so that I wasn't like
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: sometimes I feel I get up there and I'm just
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: like screaming and I look unpleasant, and these people are
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: like you owe people a show.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, you know, I don't think you look unpleasant, but
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: you're just very self conscious.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: No. Sometimes I did the Creek in the Cave last night,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: and I did a lot of screaming into did your best. Yeah.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Another great club, fucking great love, great spot. Creak in
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: the Cave is a great club. It's a fun place.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: When it's packed, it's rocking, and you know, there's a
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: lot of good comedy coming out of that.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, New York is on the up again. New
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: York is finally.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Everybody that I talked to, all my friends from New York,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I'll say that there's a lot of clubs opening. There's
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: a lot going on. It's it's happened. Didn't they just
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: open up? Uh? Was it an improv in Brooklyn? Did
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: they open up an improv in Brooklyn?
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: I know this top secret comedy has just like a
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: London club has just moved there.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know how it's gone, but they're doing like
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: a free model they're trying to do.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: They were trying to do a uc B in Austin.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's still happening. The problem with
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: uc B is uc B in La didn't pay at all.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Is this improv?
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: No, they have some improv, but they do.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: That city I didn't.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: They just stand up. Yeah, but they don't pay you.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: They don't pay, which is crazy. There was a history
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: of that at the store.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Sure that was the the There was like this big protest.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: What improv Brooklyn? There you go a strong Yeah. Yeah,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I think Joey said he was going there. It's a
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: it's a completely new place.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: All right. This I don't know if completely, but this
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: is what I'm saying.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: It's like it's popping. Somebody's coming back.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Some improvs are black and some are not. What like
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: some improvs around the country, I like just if I
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: look at them, not saying here, I'm not saying here,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: but like racist foreigner in Cleveland, the improv is just
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: a black club.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I've done the improv in Cleveland.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I think it's a black club. Really, not negativity. I like,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: like I would like I like playing black clubs.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: So it's Cleveland as that's when it's close to Kentucky, right, Am.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I getting this right? Maybe it's Pittsburgh.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: No, Pittsburgh's not I've been in that place.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Now, I've done that on Ptsurgh up there as well.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I'm telling hilarities. Was the non racially Go back to
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: that website real quick.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Look at all the different ones. Wow, there's a ton
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: of them.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: It's one of those fake maybe shut down.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: So the other there's a club in Cleveland. There is
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: a club in Cleveland that I went to way back
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: in the day. But it's really you land in Kentucky
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: and then you drive to Cleveland.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: What Yeah, No, Cincinnati.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: It was a Cincinnati.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes more sense.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's it. You're right, driver.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Ohio is more Bill. Sorry, people give credit before three
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: huge cities. They got that chili that everyone loves. Great
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Columbus Cincinnati has the most beautiful skyline.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: You have to do the Funny Bone. Columbus.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, great club. The balcony, it was very nice.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: That's Does it have a balcony?
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty yes, Columbus Funny.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: Definitely changed it since you've been there.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Last is a new one.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: Balcony, just renovated the whole room.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Oh I having the.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Balcony, they must have had to add seats.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: It's killing it everywhere that has a balcony. It's my favorite.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Once you have a police that's a club that gets
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: good accent. Every weekend on what's.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: That they go to see Eddie Griffin at the Cleveland Improv.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Come on, uh, maybe it closed there is twenty twenty
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: six years ago.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: It's like, what I typed in Cleveland?
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: So who is that? Lou and L's there and Tony
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Baker was there?
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: What comes up?
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Though, I would not be besmirched for making a very
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: genuine observation about how black the Cleveland Improv was. That's
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: hilarious because I tried to get on. I was trying
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: to do black rooms when I got to open for
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Finess Mitchell. That was the first black room I got
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: to play. I've slowed down. There's no heaps of black
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: rooms in Austin. I should go over the Houston sometimes.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: And yeah, we're the black rooms in Austin.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I think the Mothership upset the Ship. Yeah yeah, I
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: still I still think Chocolate Sundays could work at the Mothership.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I can't run it. You could, that would be fun.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I feel like you just have shows. I think themes
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: are retarded. They try to do an Italian theme at
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: the comedy store for a while, like a night of
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: a thousand Guidos. I think they called it and I
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: did it, and I was like, what am I doing?
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I'm on this show with all these other Italians just
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: because they're Italian.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: There is something different about a black audience. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: that's a different skill set. I found.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: It's a different skill set. And they won't tolerate nonsense.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: They won't tolerate all this like what else, what else? No, no, no,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: no no, they're not here for that, which I think
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: is good.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: You can't even make fun of gay you can't can't
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: mention gay stuff at all. I really, oh man, I
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: had a transbit just people were not happy to hear
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: what he's doing about that? Why are you bringing that up?
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: We're out here to have a nice night. It was
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: like on a dime. It turned really yeah, and then
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: people told me afterwards they don't want to hear about that.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that word from you. Really interesting,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: it was. It was fun if I felt very alive
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: when it was going well. And also black people giving
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: you a compliment, just an Aussie boy coming off stage.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: You gotta go to stage presence. It's like, oh, fuck,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: thank you so much.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: I am yeah black people, that was that was very
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: eye opening when I came to America. You don't have
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: a lot of that in Australia. We have Africans and
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: we have Aboriginal people, but we have no If you
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: were a cool coat in Australia, no one will tell
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: you about it. M there will be no one to say.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a very big deal between African Americans, yeah,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: and black people worldwide. Like African Americans are responsible for
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: so much of the culture, music, comedy. There's like so
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: much of an impact that African Americans have had on
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: the world. Think about just just hip hop music. Yeah, right,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: so hip hop music doesn't even exist until I was
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: in middle school, like light seventies. Yeah, so I was
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: in middle school. I went to high school in eighty one.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: And when was Sugar Hill Gang's hip hop Hibbity to
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: the Hibbity hip Hop? What was that song called Rappers Delight? Yeah,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: so that song came out when I was I think
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I was thirteen. I think I was thirteen. I think
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I was in middle nineteen seventy nine is when it Yeah, yeah, okay,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: that makes sense. So when I was in bought. When
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: we first moved to Boston, my family didn't that much money.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: We lived in a place called Jamaica Plane and it's
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: since been kind of gent but that back then it
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: was not. It was the first time I'd ever been
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: around scary kids, like violent, delinquent kids who had all
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: had sex. I hadn't had sex. All these kids, They're like,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: you don't even know where a pussy is, do you.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's down there, like you probably think you
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: go right into it, right, you got to go up.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I don't fucking know. I never even
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: kissed a girl. I was like, what the fuck are
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: you guys talking about? But they were like lighting fires,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: doing crazy shit, like they were done making link win
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: stealing things, and they was breaking and entering. Yeah. And
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: so I went to this high school or middle school rather,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: and this middle school was in a poor neighborhood. And
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: I remember there was a kid that was in my class.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: I was thirteen, he was seventeen years old, and he
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: kept failing. He kept failing and coming back and come
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: back for like a couple of weeks or two, and
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: then he would quit. And I remember seeing him at
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the school year, and I'm going, I
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: can't believe he's seventeen and he's in class with me.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: This is nuts. And then I was filled with like
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: this sense of dread for him, for his future, Like
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: this fucking guy's never going to graduate middle school, so
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: he's never going to go to high school. He's fucking seventeen.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Like will they even allow you to go to high
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: school for twenty one? Like what year do they say
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: you can't come here anymore? You failed nine years.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: In a row.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: At some point was that kind of kids? It was
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: that kind of kids. And then there was like kids
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: making out in class. I remember this Puerto Rican girls.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: She asked a question to the teacher. She said, if
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I'm making out with a guy and I'm and he's
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: breathing into my mouth and I'm breathing into his, can
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: we stay alive like that?
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: And you know, no, no, it's carbon dioxide.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: I never forgot that question.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Can we need the fresh eyes like that?
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: It was the craziest question. She was like, can we
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: breathe each other's air and not open our mouths? And
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I was like, what are you doing? You fucking dirty freak.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: So a lot of girls, uh dropped out like while
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: I was there because they got pregnant. Sure it was
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: dangerous whatever.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: You before then, though, were you and the law you
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: we're in a more middle class place before then. Yeah,
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: I was in Florida.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: I was in Gainesville, Florida, which is like way safer.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: It was pretty cool.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: You may have moved around more than anyone.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: I moved around a lot. So I lived in New
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Jersey until I was seven, and then lived in San
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Francisco from seven to eleven, and then lived in Florida
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: from eleven to thirteen, and then Boston from thirteen to
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: twenty four.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Do you I mean, because you're now your kid's growing
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: up in They were in LA and then they hear
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: mm hmm. Do you think I worry about my kids
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: because I don't think they've ever been in the same
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: house for more than one year. Like I have a
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: seven year old daughter. She's been in seven houses now
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: because we've had to move a lot, And I won't
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: know what impact that is making.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Well, as long as they're young, I honestly think it
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: has a positive effect. Okay, this is my take on
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: what it did for me. I was forced to form
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: my own opinions instead of adopting the opinions of a
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: group of people that were around me, because I'd never
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: had a consistent group of people that were around me. Yeah,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: I met a bunch of new people everywhere went, and
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I had new friends everywhere went, and completely new environments
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: everywhere I went. So I went from San Francisco in
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies right into Florida, and Florida was so
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: backwards in terms of their mentality in comparison to San Francisco.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: San Francisco, we lived in Hippyville. It was all like
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: anti war people and it's San Francisco in the nineteen seventies.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: And so then I moved to Florida and it was
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: like I had this friend. His name was Candy, his
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: last name was Candido. Everybody called him Candy, and his
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: dad was like this really angry Cuban guy. And I
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: remember I'm slamming a newspaper on the table and he
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: was like, these fags want to marry. This is crazy,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Like they're gonna let faggots marry each other. And I
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: remember thinking, like.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: What do you care?
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: Because I lived in San Francisco, were surrounded by gay people. Yeah,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: our neighbors were gay. My aunt used to smoke pot
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: with them and they'd all get naked and play bongo
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: drums because like she felt comfortable being naked around these
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: guys who had.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Suggest that they should rent it in. Now, I would say,
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: I have not seen San Francisco.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: But that's not it's not the gaze that caused San
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Francisco to go down the way it is. It's just
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: crazy progressive politics will allow people to camp on the streets.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: I just I went to a diner and I saw
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: a man. He was wearing assless chaps and sitting on that.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: That upset me.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Apparently, if you're gay, it would be a good spot.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: The public nudity is your You have to cover the urethra.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: But if you cover the urethra, everything else is fine.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Oh so you just like put a piece of potato.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Over the japi. Maybe you kind of cool with that.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: You can you just did.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: No, But that's so that that would that helped you
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: become more because you have like a weirdly independent mentality.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: That's why. Yeah, so that I think going to a
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: bunch of different places and seeing that, oh, people think
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: completely differently over here than they think over here. This
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: is weird, you know. I remember when I lived in Florida,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I had to ask my mother what the N word
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: meant because I heard it at school, and she got
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: upset with me. She goes, you know what it means.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I don't what it means, and she's like, it's a
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: it's a bad word for black people. I was like, WHOA.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Really Like it made no sense to me because the
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: formative years, I think were really important, and I think
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: seven to eleven in San Francisco was really important for
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: me because in a way, at least for me, it
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: was very much a utopian city. It was like very
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: open minded, It was very peaceful. There was very little crime,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: like real crime.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: Beautiful.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: It was gorgeous. It was gorgeous. We I'd go fishing.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: I had this guy there was like this community center
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: and this guy named Cliff would take us fishing. It
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: was really cool. Like there was a lot of like
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: good things about San Francisco back then, and there was
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of artists and it was a lot of
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: like it was a cool vibe, you know, it was.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: It was a very open mind vibe. That was a
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: lot of it was centered around the anti war movement
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: and peace. You know, there was a lot. It was
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: like it was a different kind of and they were
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: sort of just like just getting over the psychedelic wave
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: of the nineteen sixties, right, so this is like there's
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: still in that.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Mode, but it was still like an artist driven.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of open pot smoking. It was a
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: lot of like just hippies, but in the best way.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: It wasn't camping on the streets. It wasn't. There was
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: no Fentanel back then. There was no there's no homelessness.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Like homelessness was super super rare. Yeah, like in the
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventies, Like when I was a kid, I never
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: saw people camped out in the street. You never saw
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: any of that. You occasionally saw a bum and it
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: was usually some poor fuck. It was.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: It was like a drunk guy right lost his way.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: If you look crazy Ferry or on the waterfront. Whenever
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: there is like a depiction of like whenever they're doing
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: vagrants in the fifties and sixties, it's like a drunk
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: guard stumbling around like in Rambo. He just wants a
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: sandwich and they chased him out of town, right, and
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: then you know it is Trump, but now there's like
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: they're everywhere so kung fu skeletons moving around the place
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: like full of drug Like, what is the endpoint of that?
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: On?
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: No one's running on that. I remember Trump talked about
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: a little bit they need to have asylums again because
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: they closed the asylums. Yes, I mean there are more
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: therapists now than there ever were before, but they're helping
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: like corporate people. They're not helping schizophrenics without a home.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Like at some point you saw Trump bring the army
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: into places like Portland or the National Guard to clear
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: it out, and I think people were quietly kind of
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: pleased that that was happening. There was people pushed back.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Is that why they cleared it out?
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: There was a homeless situation?
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: He was the mindlessness that they thought it was protests. No,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: I think that was I think that in Washington as well.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: I think they came into Washington was crimeless people.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: It was crime as well. Yeah, like Washington was like
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: crazy with crime.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: And they were all kind of happy about it.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Well, the mayor of DC was happy. Yeah that Trump
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: brought in the national Guard.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: But this is it's not a nice you can't lose
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: the downtowns across America.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: You know how bad La has gotten?
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Right? Uh? Yeah, La?
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Do you know how big ski skid rows take?
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: How many people?
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: How many blocks?
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: I have no idea takes two fifty? Well that's too
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: many blocks.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Five zero, that's not a right, five zero, which is
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: completely claimed by homeless zombies.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: How big of the box I'm thinking about a big
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: as fuck. I stayed away from it. It's huge. I
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: went to the Hollywood Hills in Malibu and had a
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: nice time.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Downtown is nuts. Downtown LA is the only downtown of
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: any major city that sucks. Downtown New York, New York
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: is incredible, right, Downtown San Francisco is fucked with homeless people,
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: but it's still you got great.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Downtown La is a ghost Townland is so beautiful in downtown,
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: but then you will turn down the street and it's terror.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Fifty to fIF before. Oh, it's growing. Skid row in
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles, officially known as Central City East, covers approximately
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: fifty to fifty four blocks.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Fifteen thousand.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't know how many people are there. There's
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: just wild guesses in terms of what the populations of
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: homeless people are. Even in terms of the population and
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: the entire city. The high number is over one hundred
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: thousand in the city. It's crazy. Look how big it is.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: All that whole area is completely lost. It was it
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: was back in like the nineteen sixties.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: I think there's a like a map or something they've
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: drawn on a picture there.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: I think it's been that for a long time.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Look at this proposed area affordable housing. Affordable housing is
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: just a joke, it's not what the problem is. They're
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: all drug addicts. They're drug addicts and mentally ill. Yeah,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: but what do you do there, Well, you can't let
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: it get that bad, first of all. And if you
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: do let it get that bad, you got to treat
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: it like it's a catastrophic failure and throw as much
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: resources as possible at it. But the problem is these
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: people are incentivized to keep the problem going because that's
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: how they make their living.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, but they don't have any.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Motivation whatsoever to fix it, because if the homeless population
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: drops down to like a very small number, and then
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: they don't need all these people that are making half
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: a million dollars a year on the Homeless Commission, it's
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: complete drifting.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: I don't have. It's not my country. I don't have
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: any big problem with Gevin use, you know, I don't
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: understand how LA has. Every story that comes out of
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: California seems to be okay.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: So here it says between nineteen point sixty and nineteen
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: seventy five, fifty percent of the housing in skid Row
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: was demolished, reducing the total number of units from fifteen
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: thousand to seven thousand, five hundred and displacing thousands of
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: poor residents with nowhere else to go over the street.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: While skid Row is never a wealthy neighborhood, its current
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: status as the homeless capital of America as the result
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: of decades of policy choices which has simultaneously encouraged the
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: destruction of existing affordable See this is, by the way,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: this is a very progressive perspective because the real perspective,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: the real perspective is that what they used skid Row
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: for was when they would find vagrants in Beverly Hills
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: and vagrants in how in Hollywood, they would move them
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: to skid Row and then they would kind of contain
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: them in that area. Yeah, yeah, so courage Yeah, homeless
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: medical patients like other See this is a very progressive perspective.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Homeless medical patients. How about vagrants who are drug addicts,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: you can call them medical patients, Like you're just being kind.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: This is just too charitable from the across the region.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: So they would dump them there, and then they also
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: had like food kitchens there and stuff like that, so
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: they had a incentive to stay. But they kept them there,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: and so then it kept growing, because the homeless problem
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: keeps growing.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: It's psychosis and drugs. That's the ultimately.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, drugs are the big one's and drugs are the
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: drug use, and skid row is probably one hundred percent.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: It's not like regular homeless people Portland.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: And I saw I was a walking to the train
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: station through the downtown, which no one told me not
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: to do it, and all these very sad homeless people,
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: and then one guy with a big smile, he was
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: so happy. Well, no, it's the first time I saw
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: crack being smoked. It's a great smell, smell kind of sweet. Yeah,
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: like what it smelled like, sweet, like a rotten apple.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: That's how it feeled at the time. I don't know
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: if that was the cracker. I mean he was smolling
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: crack and I could smell that. But he was so
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: happy and I didn't want to take his crack away.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like he's the only thing you've really
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: got going for you today.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think crack, obviously we should take it all.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Not good for you, but probably better for you than fentanyl.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: It's all I think.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: With crack, you're active. Crack makes you go do a
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: bunch of stuff.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: This is Yeah, this is weird seeing heroin people for
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: the first time because they're not like a threat. Australia
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: is still a very meth country. We're like, oh, meth
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: is a problem out of like skinny shirtless men on
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: the bus.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Angry weird head twitching there.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're still very methy, but myth doesn't seem
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: to be as big here now.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Oh it's big. It's big in certain communities. Yeah, math
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: is still big. It's like, you know what you've got in.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, the homeless situation in Skiedrow wasn't always fantanyl
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: in heroin. I mean, at one point in time it
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: was math. You know, it's it's a gang of different things.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there's people there that are.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: Doing Do you just start killing drug deal? Do you
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: do it like in Singapore, you just have a zero
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: tolerance policy. I don't know long term what the answer is, because.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: Mean, look, you could do it that way, but it
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: would be very inhuman and it would also set a
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: precedent for how you treat a bunch of other situations.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not good, it's dangerous. The Communists when they
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: had an opium problem in China, they just put them
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: in the military. That's like, give people a new sense
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: of purpose. You've got a uniform. Now we're gonna blame
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: someone else for the problem. This is Western imperialism. Did
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: this to you. Yeah, and that seemed to help. Like
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: they don't have a big opium problem in China anymore. Hmm. Also,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know how official that he is and how
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: many people they did just kill because it's the Communist government.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there, they lie.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: They might lie.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: They definitely lie.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Although last time, I was a couple of months ago,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: I was here and Kurt Mitzka was telling me that
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: Tanneman Square was not all that bad. Yeah, I didn't
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: do enough. I didn't do enough. Digging from everything he
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: says from a short Google search, I can't agree with it,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: but I'm sure if I dug down, I'd have more questions.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen him actually since I go back. Is
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: he's still here?
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've seen every fucking mind. He's great.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: Most people are still here.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: He's the best. He's not he But you can't talk
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: conspiracies with him because it'll just he'll chain them one
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: after another after another, and then three minutes in you
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: forget what you're even talking about. Because if he's moved
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: on to some scandal in the nineteen seventies with call
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: boys and Congress.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, you expect him about Reagan? Yeah?
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: What is it called the Franklin tapes? The san was
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: talking to me about scandal. Franklin scandal. The Sign was
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: bringing that up last night. He's reading a book on it.
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  Speaker 2: I want to think that Reagan was a good guys.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's Reagan, and I think it's whoever's
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: in his cabinet.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, well, he's dead, he can't. He was saying
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: things about Reagan getting pigged. What who was saying that good?
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: Was talking about that there was a tape somewhere of
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Reagan getting pigged. Was like, I don't want to know that.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: These guys don't even think the Artemis flight went past
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: the moon they did it, thinks there's a secret space
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: program and that this space program is bullshit, there's a
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: real space program. When they're using this space program to obfuscate.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: It just seems very complicated.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: I might be saying it incorrectly. He knows a lot
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: of things.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: He does, and then when I dig in often it
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: it seems true.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: A lot of it is true.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: But also I don't I think the government is incompetent everywhere,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: and if they were able to get that one thing
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: of you know, building a fake space program to conceal
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: a true space program, it seems unlikely.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, do you know how much money you'd have
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: to have to run two space programs, one real one
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: and one fake one. That's crazy? Just a real one
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: costs so much. Well the Nazi one was real?
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's come on. Everyone seems some people are
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: still not aware of it.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: I've had conversations with people where they don't want to
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: admit it, where they can't believe it. Do you know
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: NASA was run by Nazis? They're like, what can you
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: tell me about Werner von Braun And they want to like,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that are like nas NASA fanboys,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: and these NASA fanboys don't want to believe that NASA
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: was run by literal Nazis.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean not necessarily like there were scientific Nazis.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: They were Nazis.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Werna von Braun used to hang the slowest, the five
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: slowest Jews his rocket factory in Berlin. The Simon Weisenthal
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: Center said that if he was alive today, they would
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: prosecute him for crimes against humanity.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, do you think that story got out when
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: he was at NASA and everyone worked them they hit it.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Well, there was no Freedom of Information Act releases, there
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: was no Internet when Operation paper Clip was first initiated.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: They got I don't know what the number is of
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: Nazi scientists, but it was more than a thousand.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: How many Nazi scientists put this into our wonderful ad
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: sponsor perplexity our AI sponsored it gives me all my information.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: How many Nazi scientists were brought over by the United
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: States for Operation paper Clip.
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  Speaker 4: It's I don't know that there's an efficient.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: This is what led me down my research, like ten
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: years ago, was this exact question?
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Right? Well, let's see what perplexity has to say. I'm guessing.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess about fifteen hundred.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: Also, as I'm looking this up, I will note that
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: supposedly it was split up like evenly between the Soviets
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: and the United States.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, the Soviets took a bunch of them
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: I didn't know. I didn't know they dvd it up.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've read a book about it a long time ago.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: I just started getting into the Soviet spice program. I think, oh, yeah,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: like is it the Venus missions and getting that right
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: with a.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they got a thing on Venus and took
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: pictures and send them back.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: But that it was so it was so hot that
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: everything would.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: Like sixteen hundred, sixteen hundred typically state that about sixteen
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: hundred German scientists, engineers, and technicians were brought to the
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: United States under Operation paper Clips. I was pretty close.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: It's a real back though. I was trying to dig
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: through this article as you guys are talking.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: About Nixon getting pegged or Reagan.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: Political plot to out Reagan.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, group of Republicans tried to stemy what they alleged
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: was a nefariest homosexual network within the campaign of their
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: own party. Standard bear.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: This is what I mean. He said something that sounds crazy.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: She got what the answer is.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: But during it it says like while he was trying
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: to pick a vice president, there's somewhere in here.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, we had to fuck them. You can vice president.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: But someone had a tape of an orgy.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, no, yeah, well didn't Reagan. Reagan frequented Bohemian grove.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: Isn't that correct? I believe he did.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: Everybody, a lot of people did, right.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: But Reagan did. But remember what Nixon said about behemian growth.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Damn fraggish thing I've ever seen.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: X John's talking about it.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, well, Alex Jones went yeah, Alex Jones told me I.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: Engaged in a homosexual act with Reagan.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, it was not until a boozy lunch with a
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: man claiming to have been a long time Reagan associate. However,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: the Best found what he believed to be the smoking
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: gun proving that Reagan was controlled by homosexuals. Bill, you
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: don't understand the problem. The man told Best, I once
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: engaged in a homosexual act with Reagan.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: There's a different time.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: Yes, these are up until now in this article.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: These are rumors, right, I don't know that this video
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: ever came out, but there's interesting, very long article about it.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: I was trying to find an answer, and I didn't
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: really get to oh this this is a different time
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: period in life too that I don't I wasn't.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: Even a life for right, Wow, I don't believe it.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: I do, I do too. I love them too, But
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of those guys that are
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: like staunchly conservative and very buttoned down that are that
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: way for a reason, and one of the reasons is
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: they're trying to hide the fact that they're gay.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: I never understand this though, because there are lots where
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: I'm from and like conservative gayety definitely guys thin. But
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: like so like everybody knows, everybody's aware, but they don't
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: want it coming out and they never acknowledge it. But
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: like it just seems so strange you would want to
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: not have a secret if you're a politician, because otherwise
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: people just get you to do what they want.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they have everybody that they want to be
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: politicians and then they just deal with all the people
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: that know their secrets.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: And then they make deals. But like, like there that's
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: how do you stay in business. I would even say
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: there are people in the United States Congress in it
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: who are conservatives. So we all got yeah, that guy's gay.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Everybody know you know.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: So I asked for the accuracy of this article, and
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: perplexity gave me a summary. I guess that makes more
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: sense than trying to make sense of a twenty page article.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: In two minutes. Mmmm. Okay.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: It comes from factual grounding and sources one key factual
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: bat scroll up a little bit on the no on
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: the key factual backbone. The article lines up with other
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: publicly documented material. Our Kerchick refers repeatedly to memos and
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: notes from The Washington Post editor Ben Bradley's papers, including
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: summaries by reporters Scott Armstrong and Ted Gupp. These papers
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: are held in institutional archives and have been referenced in
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: other discussions of Secret City. The nineteen sixty seven homosexual
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: ring allegations connected to Reagan Sacramento staff and Jack Kemp's
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: is independently attested in contemporary press accounts, including reporting that
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: Reagan security chief investigated alleged homosexual activity and that calmness
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: Drew Pearson raised these charges.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: At the time. So here's the thing about gays.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: There's always a certain amount of gay people in a population,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: and then it's whether or not the culture accepts them.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, there's always a certain percentage people who are attracted.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: To Yeah, no matter what you do, there's a certain percentage.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: And so if you've got enough people in Congress and
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: enough people in the Senate, enough people just in government
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: in general, you're gonna have an equivalent percentage of people
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: that are gay. And if you are a person who
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: wants to get to the top of the charts, like,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: here's the thing that you don't think of, what is
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: you think? Hollywood is very open, right, very non homophobic,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: in fact, celebrates diversity and celebrates LBGTQ people. Right, Yeah,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: but not. So here's the thing. One thing you can't
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: be is an openly gay person and being a male
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: lead in films.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: Uh, I mean that would make sense as to why
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: people keep that quiet. I'm trying to give one.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: You can't.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: You're still hasn't changed. You can pretend to.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: Be a werewolf, yeah, but you can't pretend to be straight.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: You can't pretend to be straight.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they won't allow you. So if you're you have
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: to pretend. You have to pretend you're not gay, because
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: you can't act in a movie where we know you're
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: gay and you pretend to be straight, we won't buy it.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: Whenever there is a movie where there is a gay person,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: they get it obviously stri like in Milk. Then get
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: a gay guy, they get a straight gut to be guys.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: One example.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's when she was never a TV he
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: was never a movie leading man.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: It's just one example.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: I know, but he's a TV guy.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: But then people makes also.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: It's like he's got a it's a cartoon character like
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: that How I Met your Mother? That's a cartoon character,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: like like straight guy, Like you don't believe it at all. Like,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: first of all, he's not attractive, like in that way,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: he's not masculine, and the fact that he gets all
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: these hot girls, none of it makes any sense, you see,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: it's just writing.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: He's playing was great. He was he was great. I
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: wish that fucking awesome. I really it helped me work
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: through a lot of trauma with women.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: Bro That movie was crazy. But the point is, like,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: you can't be an openly gay guy and be a movie.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: Star, yes, because you wouldn't.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: I think one on screen rather, and there's not one.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: There's I know, a bunch of closeted ones. But there's
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: no openly gay action movie star.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: Well there were, there's actually there would be none. There's none.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: There's there's stars who have played played gay people. The
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: guys play gay people.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: You know, like, what's his face, James Bond, English guy,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: Daniel Craig, Daniel Craig.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: He plays guy, that's right, Yeah, it was milk.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he plays a gay guy knives Out, but he's
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: not like making out with anybody. He just like lives
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: with a guy.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: I never I never watched Knives Out because I was
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: so angry at the second Style Wars movie. I love
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: that it's the same director, like I was just and
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: I loved Lupa. I thought Lupa was let a guy
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: have a dut or two everything. I fucking hated that movie.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: I was one of those guys.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: It was like, which one was that? What it was
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: it called?
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: Oh man, it was not False Awakens. It was the
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: one that came after that.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: It was what years though.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen, I'm alive with the place.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: Don't you think though that I didn't watch any of
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: the new ones. But don't you think though that when
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: you were dealing if you're dealing with a Star Wars,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: those franchise movies, you're dealing with and then there's no
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: way they just give you carte blanche. There's no way
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: they just let you write a script, let you produce it,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: let you put it together, let you direct it the
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: way you want. They have insane amounts of it.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: This one was so stylistically strange, in such a departure.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: He was making it. Rise of Skywalker is, Yeah, maybe
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: it's that one. Yeah? Is that it is that the one?
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: Does anybody really give a shit about these new Star
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: Wars movies? Uh?
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: Not anymore. But it was, you know, it was exciting
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: when George Lucas was doing it. At least he was like,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: we're gonna have a Jew alien and the Korean aliens
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: and it's about trade wars. And he was like, they
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: did that episode one oh Man. Episode one is a nightmare.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: If you go back on which episode one?
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Which one's episode one?
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: Episode one is like Little Anakin and the pod racings.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: J Banks is like a hugely troubled it's just speaking
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: in a patchway. The whole time. But uh, I mean
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: it all has to end. I think I think it's
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: finally winding down, like the Marvel Cinematic universe seems to
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: be coming to a quarter. Maybe I'm back up.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: No, no, but Star Wars they woke it up, they
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: fucked it up. Yeah, they made it all like this
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: stupid woke mess that.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: Was the one that was the one where it was
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: like there were ladies who couldn't do anything wrong and
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: all the men.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: And the ladies generals and the men are all terrified
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: of them.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so save it. This is no.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: These but these woke messages just destroy the actual film.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: Like what we were talking about this the other day
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: that a feminist show that no one thinks of as
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: a feminist show is how is Game of Thrones. No,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: it's a completely feminist show. The women women are all badasses. Yes,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: every woman. Ariastark badass, Denaris Targerian badass, Circe Lanister badass.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, the Brionna Ptarth badass kills.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: I mean it almost kills the hound. They're all women. Yeah,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: the women run everything. They're beasts sansa Stark badass and.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: A lot of the men that things coming that at Yeah,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: idiots get their heads chopped off.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're retarded. The women keep the fucking civilization together,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: and they're the most dominant forces in the show.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, sometimes they're lying, like that nasty prostitute who
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: that midget man?
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but she was unfortunate in her choices.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: Do you think the Marvel thing is gonna keep? I
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: think this at some point.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: They're gonna rap it back up. They have a new one.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: They brought back the Russo Brothers.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: And they're bringing in Jr. Doctor Doom's coming.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: Isn't that?
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: Isn't fucking Robert Downey Jr. Playing Doom as.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: Well as how does he do that? Way? Do you
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: see the movie Man? No?
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no? How is he fucking iron Man
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: and Doom?
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: Well they both have iron No? No, I new guy.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: I know Robert Downey Junior is great. You don't have
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: to kill Iron Man. Bring Iron Man back. Don't you
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: have a multi verse? Can't you pull him back and
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: put him into this current timeline.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it. I just don't like.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: When you have a whole like universe and you have
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: one guy playing two characters in the universe. As much
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: as I love Robert out of me as a comic
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: book fan.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: You had that though.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 5: Chris Evans is Fantastic four and his Captain America.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: Who was he in Fantastic four?
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: The first Fantastic Four?
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: No, they've been Fantastic four, four three. There have been
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: so many Fantastic I never even remembered. They can never
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: get that one working. Who does he play? And that's
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: sort of a joke.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 5: And the Spider Man the Multiverse one, because like they
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: bring them all back in the same fucking movie and
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 5: it's all confusing. Yeah, they bring all the bad guys back,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: Jamie Foxes and the new Spider Man and like he
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: was that was old movie.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: Do you think they'll be post woke at this point?
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: That's I got to watch movies for the first time
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: on the plane.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: Over All their fucking money that's starting to have to
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: start to come back.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: Did you see Pogonia?
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: No, it was good.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: Stuvey was in that and Emma was the guy who
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: made the lobster. But that was there were problems with it,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: but it was like appointedly, like a post in the
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: in the same vein of like white lotus. I think, yeah,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: Hollywood is trying to make self consciously loose work movies.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: I got really annoyed by it, and I thought some
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: of it was cheap, but like, I like, that's what
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: they were going for. That's fun, and I thought the
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: ending was fun. Spoiler I I won't spoil nothing. I
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: won't spol nothing, but I did. I got to. I
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: would never have seen it if I wasn't on a
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: flight watching fifty seven movies. American fiction was like a
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: post work movie. They are like at the moment on
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: Delta flights, there is American fiction. American Fiction is a
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: book about it. It's a black author who doesn't want
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: to be considered a black author. He just wants to
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: be an author he's sick of and then he keeps
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: seeing all these like terrible black books full of stereotypes
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: that white liberals adore. So he writes a fake book
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: called My Pathology, and I think he later changes it
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: to fuck. He's just trying to like fuck with people.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: Go I'll just write the blackest, dumbest book so that
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: white and then white liberals do love it. And it
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: was good. It was like but it's like pointedly like
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: mainstream and indie, you know, big studios are trying to make.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: They're trying to find some continuity from being Woke to now?
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: Is this that's Office as Independent an Independent Spirit Award?
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, but Begun You wasn't movie?
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: But was it called again the one you were just
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: talking about, Begunya? No, the other one which American fiction? Yeah,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: so American fiction is independent?
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: If that was it might I didn't know if it
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: was independent. I looked it up. It made like tens
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: of millions of dollars.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but sometimes independent films that catch on make good money.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: And not deal with Amazon to make a limited theatrical release.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, so they putting with Amazon. That's it's slightly I
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: don't I would count that as a big studio. No.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: No, if you started it by yourself, you started it
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: by yourself and then you distributed to Amazon.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: But who paid for it? Who was the somebody probably
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: financed the director was see the Onion Guy ten million
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: dollar budget.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: So the thing is, if you want to do something right,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: you kind of have to do it that way now,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: like make it yourself and then bring it as a
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: fully completed project. That way, you don't have a bunch
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: of people like the Star Wars guy like in your
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: ear telling you what to do and how to direct it.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: Can I I recorded a comedy special years ago for Australia. Yeah,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: and I thought I would just do it on my
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: own and then I would sell it to the network.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: How'd that go?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: They said, we like it. This is one of the
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: most embarrassing funk calls. I over hed. They said that
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: we like it. It's very white, it's very male. Like, yeah,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: it's me, It's just me. And they said, can you
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: go out in five like, find five or six diverse
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: comedians and record the specials as well, and then we
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: could buy all six of them? As I was like
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: fuck it, I put it on YouTube. That was the
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: real request was would you find find a find an
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: Aboriginal fella, find a lady in a wheelchair, find some
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: Chinese people, and then you can have your one as
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: well and will buy all six. It was Yeah, that
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: was probably the end of me thinking I could work with.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: You can't work with people that aren't creatives. And that's
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: what those people are. There are a bunch of people
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: that are caught up and whatever the cultural moment is,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: whatever they think. The winds of yeah, the winds of
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: discontent blow the hardest right. So the people that are
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: going to get the most upset are the wokies. They're
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: the ones that are going to complain the most about
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: a lack of diversity. So to satisfy those people, they'll
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: torch their own art. They'll they'll fuck up the thing
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: that they do best.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can work with totally non creative people.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: This was like, there's a Frank Zapper line about how
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: working in the music industry was great when it was
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: just a guy in a suit who didn't care, and
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: as soon as people had some ideas, it was hard
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: to make.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: Things right when someone would tell you what to do.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: If it's a profit motive, that's great, you can work
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: with those people.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: It's yeah, right, But there's no pure profit motive people
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: anymore in terms of entertainment. They're all thinking about the
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: cultural like tone and what you're supposed to do and
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: not supposed to do, and what you're being on the
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: right side of history.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: Now. And did you see the Portrays bit where he
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: talked about how he liked working with mid level Jews. No,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: it's like, I like mid level Jews. I make them
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: the money, they leave me alone.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: That makes sense. Yeah, the people that get in your way.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: They all think they're doing it for a good cost.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: And we experienced that, like stan Opin we were doing
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: The Man Show on Comedy Central. There was a lot
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: of that was there. Yeah, dude, I don't even want
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: to go into it, but there was whenever You're like
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: already experienced it when he was a Comedy Central. I
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: know a lot of people that have experienced it at
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: various networks where there's always some fucking executives that want
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: to impose their and it's always liberal. They want to
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: impose their progressive values on comedy, and it's like, you
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: can't fucking do that if you want it to be funny.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: If you want it to be funny, you have to
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: It has to be in the language and in the mind,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: like from the viewpoint of one person, one person's unique vitiion,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: one person's unique vision that they think is hilarious. And
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: as soon as you start monkeying with that, soon you
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: start adding stuff to that, as soon as you start
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: watering it down, you're gonna kill it. You compromise it,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: It becomes a candidate for mediocrity.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: But how did they what did they start on The
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: Man Show? They like get the goals off the trampolines.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: No, it was like one of the things was they
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: didn't want Joey Diaz coming out naked. Okay, so we
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: had an intro and I said, this is what I
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: want to do for the intro. I want Joey Diaz
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: to come out. He's going to burst through the door
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: naked with Timbaland's on, with a baseball hat on and
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: just say let's get this party started and start dancing.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: It was hilarious, and they didn't want to do it.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: So this is the scene, I guess.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: But you did get to put you Yeah.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: Well, we had to do it two ways. We had
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: to do it their way. We did it their way first,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: and then when their way was done, we did it
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: with Joey. Everybody went fucking nuts. They all went nuts.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: It was awesome. But it's like they so strongly resisted
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: that that was the only way I wanted to do it,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: and I said, listen, we'll do it your way first,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: and then we'll do it our way. Meanwhile, that version
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: with Joey was what they used in all the promos. Yeah,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: of course they use that when they were like the
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: man and then Joey comes out naked was cock blurred out.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: But you're just gonna get a bunch of people who
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: also want to have their fingerprints on what you're doing. Yeah,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: so they want to They want to somehow another change it,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: even if it doesn't make sense. They would What if
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: your neighbor is a black guy who grew up with
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: a white family. What if your name and then they
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: want to like change it and then they have how
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: do you do? How you doing with the black guy
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: who is the white family? Like I didn't even add that.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: Come on, man, yeah, come on, man, we gotta play ball.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: Like these dipshits want to add their own little fucking
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: ingredients into the soup with this.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's never been cheapen to make your own thing.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: I would have to think never.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: You could do it on a cell phone, You could
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: upload it to YouTube.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: And AI is incredible. Yeah, there's a use for it.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: I hope it doesn't. I'm still uncomfortable about it. You're
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: a you're a bored You've you're playing new music backstage.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: I didn't, I couldn't. I didn't pick it. That was good, right,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: it's all good. I find it frightening.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, white, it's white Rabbit. It's uh, this Jefferson Airplane
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: version of White Rabbit, but it's this bluesy new version
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: of it. That's all AI. It's fantastic.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: It's one way you can upload. You just up blood
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: your your music with someone else's music and like it
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: does with a mastering beautiful. It's spooky. I mean, it's
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: the end of it is the end. It's the end
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: of something, it's the beginning. There are technical jobs that
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: are just gone now, like.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: That's true, but there's not a lot of Morse code
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: operators either.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: I think they should bring it back, bring scheme engine.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: I'm we need a coal powered fucking locomotives. Listen the
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: Amish happy they got their buggies.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: A conversation with them about space. They don't know Jack Shad.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: I didn't have autism, so they can go to them
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: about beta.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: I think you're going to You're going to experience great change.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: There's not a damn thing you can do about it,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: and so you just have to be zen about it.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: I mean some of that. I it's been like over
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: a year since the driverless cars came to Austin and
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: I've been in a bunch of them. The way most
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: and they're not spreading out across the country the way
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: that I thought they would.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, they're in a lot of places. They're all over
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles, They're in a lot of places.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: They're in about three or four places. But like they
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: should have obviously, the technology is there that no one
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: should have to drive for a living, like it would
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: be cheaper to have the way month. The technology is there.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: They're on the freeway. Now. I've never had one problem
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: in a I don't know how many have been.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: In they've had problems here. They've all got because there's
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: so many of them. They all met up in an
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: intersection and got locked up. Hilarious. Yeah, there was like
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: a bunch of streets going into each other and they
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: all came and then no one knew what to do.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: But that's not as bad as like drunkenly tea bonning somebody.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: Sure, But the thing is, don't drink and drive. Not
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: let's let robots take our lives over, right, That's not
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: the solution. I want the freedom of being able to
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: hop in a fucking car and drive wherever I want.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: They're going to take it.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: That's the problem. That's the problem. The problem is they're
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: it's safe to have you off the exactly exactly they're
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: going to say, statistically, you're more likely to die in
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: a car accident if driven by a normal person and
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: a robot.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: I bet they'll you know, they'll give you the offul
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: little bonuses. They'll say, when all the humans are off
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: the road, the speed limits are going up two or
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: three times, you know, whatever. They can handle. Their reflex
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: is a bit of.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: Well, you know a lot of kids today are not driving.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: You know that a lot of kids today are just
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: they're just ordering ubers and yeah, driving way mos.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: And I mean I only got my driver's license at
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: like twenty seven. Really, yeah, I was just on buses.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: And then we had a child and I was like,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: I better do it now. That's my favorite thing in
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: the world. Wow, I love driving.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: Did you not want a driver's license or you just
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: couldn't be bothered?
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: I wasn't good at it. My parents were scared. My
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: parents were like, I don't want to get in the
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: car with you. I don't know, I don't know. I
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: was very like I was uncoordinated until like I was
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: at a late puberty at sixteen seventeen, and then I
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: became coordinated, but for a while the interesting, Yeah, I
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: don't know what I teach you.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: You were dropped on your head.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: Interesting, Then I think we like. And then in my
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: late team on I fell out of a pram, out
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: of a stroller and buckled myself and I stood up
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: fell down. I don't think it had any brain impact.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: People disagree. A big scar.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you fucked your head up, that's why you're funny. Uh.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: Maybe I got the coordination back at some point, but
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: I like.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: So you really think it affected your coordination all the
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: way up into puberty.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was. I was able to play sport
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: at high school after I hit puberty, but only after puberty,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: and only sports that didn't really matter if I had
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: all the skills. So like football, everyone's been doing it
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: since there were four and they really know how to
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: do it. So I was just like, no, it didn't
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: matter that I could figure it out now. Everyone had
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: ten years on me. But I became an okay field
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: hockey goalkeeper. I have like one season in the top
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: team as the field hockey because no one wanted to
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: do it. No one really trains to do it, and
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: it's just having fast reflex, So that was fine or
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: like bad, I became okay at badminton because it was
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: just me and the Asians. You know, like tennis. There
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: was no way to get good at tennis.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: Right, you need a headstart.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: Squash I could do a little bit, but badminton's a
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: great game a lot of me.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: So did you have a problem moving your body correctly?
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I couldn't catch a ball.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: Huhh. And you think it i'd do with your head injury?
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: I well, I have no idea.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: Do you have brothers or sisters?
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: I have a brother. He's fine.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: Is he an athlete? Uh?
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: No, I mean he he was. He Also he was
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: younger than me, so I was in badminton, so he was.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: And then he was really good at badminton. Yeah, he's
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: a hyper competitive he's it was always good at sport.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: Compared to me, it was much better. And then I
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: could Like when I came to America and I started
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: throwing a foot. When I figured out I could throw
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: a football, that was huge.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: Is your brother funny? Yes?
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he Actually he got me into I thought comedy
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: was over. Ah. This is how I met Shane is
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: he took me to go and see Shane. I was
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: sort of, this was I don't know how many years ago,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: four years ago, and I was sort of I didn't
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: know what I'd had. I had a three year old
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: by that point and a new baby on the way.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: Ah and just in Australia, nothing was interesting to me
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: in my career wasn't happening. And he said you should
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: come and see this guy who got fired from SNL.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: I didn't know him. And I sat in the audience
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: and I watched Shane perform for three or four hundred
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: people in our hometown and I was like, oh, fuck,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: it's back, like it's happening. I knew there were a
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: couple of people on NETFLI I knew like you had
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: Netflix specials and Bill Burr and Louis, but it was
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: like these people are grandfather did in. No one is
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: ever going to be able to come through and be
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: you know, controversial, No one in my generation is going
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: to be given an opportunity.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: And then I saw you just thought that new comedians
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: were not going to make.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: It in Australia. I can't I can't say enough how
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: there's a like a it's been twenty years since someone
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: got to be successful. Jim Jefferies never in Australia. He
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: had to leave. Really even now, the Melbourne Comedy Festival
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: notoriously will not work with people who have worked with
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: Jim Jefferies. That's a black stain on your character.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: So if you opened for him, you can't work at them.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: They don't like you and they're not going to give
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: you opportunities. That's what people say. That's what I've heard,
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: and everything that I've seen leads me because he's not
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: their person. Fuck him. They think of him as an extreme.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: In America, he's like a liberal and in Australia he's
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: far right dangerous man. How could he say that?
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: That's what it is.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: That's what it.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: Is, is his politics. Oh yeah, it's not that he didn't
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: come up through their system.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: Ah well, he didn't come I mean he just left right,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: but he I think he didn't like them. They didn't
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: like him. I mean there are people who have left
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: and not been part of their system that they've totally
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: gotten around. But they say what he is is like
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: a manly man and they don't like that. Oh no,
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: oh no, no, they want you to be a cardigan.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: Excuse me. I won't go on and on, go on
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: and on. It's there's like there was a generation of
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: lost talent in Australia. Great John Crookshank fantastic, where's his show?
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: You could name fifteen people, but.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: Like there was no opportunities for them.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: It was so it was hilariously Gate kept.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: Never good.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: No, so I didn't. I just thought.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: Perspective from Australia, you never thought there was ever going
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: to be an opportunity to make it as a car.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: My brother liked I had kids, I had stopped paying
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: attention to the outside world. My brother had not, and
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: he took me to go and see Shane. He was like,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: you should see this man. And it was fantastic. And
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: I talked my way backstage because I knew the opener
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: because I didn't get done, but I knew the opener.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: And then I got to meet him and Matt, and
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: then I got to go to Melbourne and open for him,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: and then I came, then I came to America.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: Were you doing any stand up before you opened for
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: him in Melbourne? How you been practicing?
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I was going to stand up around Conson, but
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: I would do I would just have fifty or one
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: hundred people in a different city, and I would show
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: up and make enough money for the flight and like
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: an extra thousand bucks or something. But it was like
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: I couldn't pay rent that way I could scratch that.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: It was yeah, I was was struggling. This is why
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: when we did come to when I got the Catholic job,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: when I came to America, it was all I borrowed
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: from everybody, Like I was in thousands of dollars of
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: debt to family and friends.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: How did arg Barker make it in Australia?
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: He did a show called Flight of the Concords. He
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: was on that and he was beloved by the festival
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: and he did lots of Garla spots and we really
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: there's a couple.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: So it's the festival.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: The festival broke everybody.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that controls comedy in Australia.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, there's a guy called Rodney rud who's really funny,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: who was before that?
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: Is he in the festival?
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: He's not.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: He can't be in.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: He would go to like RSLs and thing he has
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: great get out of here, you heimless. Fuck that's a
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: great bit, Okay, Kevin Bloody Wilson. But these are like
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: that older generation. Yeah. After that though, it was.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: And so it's captured. It's gate kept by one ideology.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: Like one lady running one festival. Oh, no, disrespect. I'm
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: sure she's very nice. I don't want to talk down.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: I would have loved an opportunity once. Anyway, it doesn't matter.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: I don't need you anymore.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's never good. It's never good because people of
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: that kind of power they also abuse it. They really
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: enjoy it.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: You're not he could. You've got hundreds of desperate people
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: who are Please give me an opportunity.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: I've got that. I don't do it.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: No, but you're a very strange person and you're alone.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: That's why people love you. But there's definitely there are
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: casting catches.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you to just be nice and being nice
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: and helping people, especially talented people, it gives you great satisfaction.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: You feel great about it. I always tell people it's
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: really selfish to be generous because it feels great. Yeah,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: it's wonderful to help people. It feels fucking awesome, and
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: it's great to see what people thrive and take off.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: It's fun, it's exciting. And then you hang out with
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: them in the green room and it's just all joy that.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: They don't do that. They're helping a lot of people
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: who get very specific No, no, no ideology.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: Listen that we don't have that like our ideology is
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: the opposite our ideologies. Are you funny? Yeah, I don't
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: give a fuck if you're liberal and funny or like
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: it was very Brian Holtzman, what.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: Are you setting it come? Was on last night and
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: she was like she was a big lefty. She's a
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: dear friend and she's going to open for me this weekend.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: But she was like in New York. She was raised
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: in Sacramento, she went to New York. She was like
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: a very lefty progressive person and I remember like Eve
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: Knights at the Mothership, which she would scream at the audience,
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: you're a fucking fascist. Fuck Yeah. Like she was really
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: like baked it and they loved it. People they said,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: lefty lady just like off her not angry at everybody,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: and people were it was fun There is no equivalent
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: of that.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: No, you just have to be funny. Yeah, Like it's
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: all just funny. Like if you're funny, lefty, funny, funny,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: Brian Holtsman, funny, tony Hinchliff funny.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't matter.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: Just be funny. Just work on your stuff. Work on it,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: like really put a lot of time and energy into
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: your craft, but come up with great bits.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: When I'm on these flights, I'm watching like all the
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: official sanctioned like non Netflix specials, but some of them
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: that are on HBO and some are on Hulu, and
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: it's people who there's a weird way that audiences like
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: I'm watching like official mains whatever, Like it's not mainstream
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: because the audience is are tiny by comparison, but you
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, like sort of like orthodox sanctioned
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: comedy in America, and the jokes are so mild and so,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: but then the audience is like the audience, Yeah, they're
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: anti depressing. It sounds crazy. They are great, and it's
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: like cheap nothing punchlines exactly, and it's just at the
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: slightest my boy, I couldn't even Yeah.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: It's clapped right. So you're also reinforcing their ideology. So
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: they're very excited about it because they kind of realize
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: their ideology is very fringe and dying out. As much
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: as it's perpetrated through Hollywood, it's rejected a lot of
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: rational people.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: It's over.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: It's over.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: I was watching I went to a bar last night
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: and I watched the time, and God bless everybody involved.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: But it's like, Okay, well, this is done, this is
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: winding down, this is not a cultural This was the
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: most like.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: The Tonight Shows winding down, just in.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: Terms of how many people are watching it. And like,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: you know, going doing a sit on a Tonight show
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: used to be that was it, right, we moved tickets
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: on the right on Johnny Carson and now people going
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: that's his fifteenth to Night show appearances.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: But it kind of died out even before then, like
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: the impact of the Jay Leno sets, Like if you
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: did a set on Jay Leno's Tonight Show, it didn't
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: have nearly the impact that Johnny Carson did. And that's
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: just because by then there were so many channels. Yeah,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: so when Johnny Carson was on the Tonight Show, there
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: was three channels in the country. Yeah, you know, that's
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: how crazy it was. And then slowly but surely, cable
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: came around, Fox came around, all these other networks, and
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: then everything just expanded. Now you have streaming, and now
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: it's insane. Now the numbers are out over at the
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: end of Carson for that. Yeah, I believe. So, okay,
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: I believe by the time Jay Leno came around, Like
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: when did Jay Leno first start host the Tonight Show
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: Let's Guesses? Yeah, midies probably, So that was right around
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: the time Cable was coming out. Cable changed everything. So
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: with cable you got first of all, you got eveneath
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: the improv MTV half hour, comedy hour, Spotlight Cafe. There
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: was a bunch of different shows around, a bunch of
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: different networks. There was all these comedy shows that were
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: all over the place, which makes sense because like that's
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: when cable started becoming really ubiquitous in America, and then
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: you have so many fucking channels, so the impact of
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: a single show was not the same anymore. Because during
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: the let's find this out, during the height of the
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: Tonight Show, what was the average viewers?
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: This is spooky, I.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: Bet it's like forty million.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: What's like I think the I mean even by the
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: end of Friends.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: Like demonstrating, because that's that's earlier. So the Tonight Show
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: is late.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: At just average Tonight show.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the Tonight Show is eleven PM. That's
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: after the fucking news that's late at night? Right?
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: Isn't it eleven? Is that when it starts? Or ten?
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: What's tonight shose start?
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 5: Oh it's eleven thirty East, ten thirty Central.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, so eleven thirty in New York?
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: Is it a million people? How many? Naw? No? Then
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: what would what would it be? Then?
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: What do you mean the viewers?
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Like how many people? More than a million? Ten million?
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, easily the Tonight Show viewers? I bet it
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: was thirty What is average Tonight Show viewers in nineteen eighty.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: Let's say nineteen like fifteen percent of the country.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: Bro, it was that big. It was where people went
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: to find out what was going on, what movies were
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: coming out, what bands were coming out, what comics were funny?
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: I remember it. So let's try in nineteen eighty. Oh sorry,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: average viewers of the Tonight Show in nineteen eighty.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 5: That's given me a rating, not the numbers.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's like, as a percentage.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: What were the average number of viewers on the Tonight
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: Show in nineteen eighty? Let's see how many million?
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 4: Six to seven million?
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: Six to seven million was average?
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: This is eight to ten but by Yeah, but like,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: all right, even eight to ten, but what is it now?
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: Six to seven? Let's think of that.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: God ten, No, I don't even know if it's that.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: And here's the thing about ratings. The ratings are very
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: weird because it's based on this. You you have boxes
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: that are connected to your television. Do you know how
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: it works?
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: So these The way these ratings work is they get
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: a certain number of people, and the certain number of
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: people you actually pay. They pay these people to have
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: this box, and then some of them have to fill
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: out a form. I don't know how that works. But
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: and then it just records what you're watching. And so
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: it's just based on these people. So it's not the
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: whole country. But with like Netflix, it's a different animal.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: They know the exact number of people.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: They know when people are tuning out that which shot
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: is upsetting people?
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. They know the moment where people tune out.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: Well, they also have an insane amount of options, Like
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: if you're bored even slightly, you press a button. You
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: have new options and they're instantaneous. Back then, you had
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: two other options other than whatever was it NBC? To
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: tight show? Was it NBC?
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got different channels. But I'm I'm nostalgic for that.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: I only had that until I was like ten. Yeah,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: but it was I've started watching TV again, but it's
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: looks like I'm role playing in my living room when
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: I have a beer and I watch like terrestrial broadcast
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: now like I watched Survivor with my.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: Family at not and with commercials and everything.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: Man, I watched the lead in. I watched the new
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: Matt Locke afterwards for five minutes before I get sick
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: of it and tend it off. I watch Who Wants
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: to Be a Millionaire beforehand.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: It's for people that are on heavy pharmaceutical yea.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: People open the world.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: Their mouth is open, their senses are dull.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: I was committed to crime. The better solve it. There's
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: only ten minutes love. I would have friends come over.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: This is what I've started doing. It watched tv TV
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: only Australian Survivor, which is I think the world's finest.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: Is it still different host?
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: No, it's a different host Australian. We had Jonathan Lapalia.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: It was Anthony Lapoli's brother, but then he got shafted.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: It's very upsetting. They got a new.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: Host, Jonathan ANTHONYI the actor.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jonathan Party was very good.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: We still got the shraft.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: No, I don't know why, no one knows. I don't know,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: but he was great. It's he was wrong think it.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: You know, I've never heard him expressed opinion. He would
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: do a lot of sexual double entendre during the show.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: The other good one is the South African Survivor is it? Yeah,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: because they've got the accent, so all the challenges feel
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: way nasty. I got that he's struggling, n nothing to switch,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: he's digging into his feet, He's in a lot of pine.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: I love South African.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: They had a bunch of different versions of fear fact
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: that I wasn't even aware of.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: Different countries got fe effected hundred different countries just joking.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: I mean they had someone it was like that. You know,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: that would be funny to see who they like, because
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: that would be trying to replicate you.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: Not necessarily like Ludacris didn't try to replicate me when
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: he did it.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: They got ludicrous to do it.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in America, it was a very short amount of time.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: And now Johnny Knoxville is doing it, and he's doing
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: it his own way too. Sure, it's a pretty straightforward show,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: though you don't have to do it my way. But
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: what I was good at is because I came from
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: a background in martial arts coaching. Like I had students
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: and I would bring them to tournaments and I coached
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: them at tournaments. I was really good at getting people
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: fired up, you know, and I'd coach teammates like I
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: would be in the corner of teammates and I'd coach them,
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: and I'd trained people like One of the reason that
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: is why I got really good to talk one those
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: quickly is because I taught. And when you teach something,
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: there's something interesting. And I've noticed that about jiu jitsu
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: as well. When you teach something, you get better at it,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: like exponentially better than people that are just training.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: But I mean with comedy, there's a huge foot power
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: against teaching.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: You can't teach it. No, you can't teach comedy. It's different,
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: Like you do it so different than I do it.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: I do it so different than change Shaane does it
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: so different.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: There are things you could teach people, like when people
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: come on kill Tiny and they haven't been doing it
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: for very long. They are key things that you can
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: tell people. Yeah, you must stop doing that. Yeah, you've
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: got to hold the microphone like these we've got to
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: be able to heat.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: And I think people waste a lot of time not
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: knowing those I mean they could look it.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: Up, but didn't you figure those things out?
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's people that aren't that aware in the
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: first place, and that's a problem to begin with. It
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: is what it is is a lack of self examination.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: A lot of what these problems are you could solve
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: yourself if you just recorded yourself or filmed yourself. Film
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: is the best. Recorded is pretty good. Film is one
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: hundred percent. So filming you get this, see all the
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: things you hate about yourself, all the things that are gross,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: all the weird, stupid parts of your bits you need
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: to chop out and they make you uncomfortable and it's
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: good and you just oh, fuck that bit, fuck this,
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: cut this, Oh here's another od I didn't even think
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: of this, and then boom.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: I mean that's doing At the moment, I'm finding it
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: heart breaking.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: Because you're just getting back into like real world again.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: Oh I did you were trapped on.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: I was done hours in Australia and I knew that
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: like some of it would translate in America and some
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: of it wouldn't, And man, it is just which is great.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: I tried to overrite so I would have more than
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: I needed.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: But did you have a lot of Australian based jokes,
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: like local jokes?
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: Eventually I had to, like I started at trying to
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: do no nothing local and what happened. But you're just
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: there in the Prime minister does something a bowling and
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: you start talking.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: About, oh, yeah, you're gonna have to have some stuff.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's interesting. Yeah, anything about your politics will not
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: translate over here, not at not at all. We don't
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: give a fuck. You don't have nuclear weapons. Shut the
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: fuck up. You're not even a real country.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: I guess I'm trying to sort us out.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: Did you see what happened yesterday that the FBI has
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: uh has indicted the Southern Poverty Law Center on what
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: paying Nazis to protest. So this was something that Alex
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: Jones had said. You remember that Charlottesville tiki torch thing
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: years ago. Alex Jones said back then that they were
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: being paid, that these are paid actors to go and
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: do that, and people thought he was insane. Yeah, turns
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: out it's true. Turns out they were paying the Ku
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: kux Klan. They were paying a bunch of these like
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: far right radical organizations, giving them money to protest so
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: they would have something to fight against us.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: They're going to the capitol over.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: Headj charged a Southern Poverty law center with fraud over
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: secret funding of extremist groups.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: Fucking crazy, so that the Onion is buying info wars
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: and turning into like an anti gun and like it's
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: a one point five billion dollar thing. He had to
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: pay for getting one thing wrong one time?
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: How many things did he you have to be right about?
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: He's right about a lot, I'll tell you that. And
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: the Onion thing, I don't even know if other people
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: were allowed to bid. I don't know how that worked out,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: but I think there was other people that were trying
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: to bid that couldn't. It's hinky that were like supporters
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: of Alex Jones. Yeah, uh so let's go back up
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: its hold on. Between twenty fourteen and twenty twenty three,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: Southern Poverty Low Center paid at least three million dollars
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: to eight individuals, some of them were associated with the
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: Ku kux Klan United Clans of America, National Socialist Party
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: of America, Aryan Nations affiliated Sadistic Souls motorcycle Club. That's
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: a mouthful. And the American Front, said Acting US Attorney
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: General Todd Blanche at the press conference. Holy fun shat.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: Well this is what you said before about people who
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: need homelessness to keep going.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: Well, this is what's created that exactly. But this is
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: what's crazy. These people were cited as an expert in
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: extremist groups, and they were paying extremist groups in order
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: to be extreme.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 5: They said they were paying for like information I think right,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 5: they had them planted there or something like that.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: Shut the bug up, know you were it. It's just
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: like what Israel gets accused of doing with Hamas. That
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: that and Yahoo has said by getting money and giving
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: to Hamas, you keep Hamas in power and you can
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: control the height of the flame. So instead of letting
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: Palestine get its own state statehood, you keep Hamas in charge.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: You always have an enemy and you always have no
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: reason to give Palestine statehood.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: Well, people, I don't know how deep people went into
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: what happened on the security on October seven.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: Happen. It's a total stand doown people were told to
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: stand down. First of all, it's the most surveiled country
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: on Earth, on guards everywhere, surrounded by their enemy. And
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: somehow or another of these guys pulled this off when
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: they were warned by Egypt as well. Also before that happened.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: Before that happened. For October seventh, hundreds of thousands of
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: people in the street protesting against Natan Yahoo, did.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: You read about why it's so strange because they their constitution.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: They don't have a set constitution. They're writing their constitution
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: in real time. They add one article at the time.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: I think I'm getting this right, and it was Israel
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: was always meant to be a home for the Jews,
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: and that he made it expressly a Jewish state, that
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: it would be.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: Like I thought they were expanding the powers of the government.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: Getting this it was that the government, Yes, that was
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: part of the government's powers. That the government then had
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: the power to act on behalf of Jewish interests interests.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: So it's like they could take they could exclude certain
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: areas from voting if it would mean and citizenship, please
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: would challenge us.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: Put in a search for what was the reason and
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: why people were protesting net and Yahoo before October se
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: come get this right, I think.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: You are that he was stuck being a secular constitution.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: I think that was one of the things. But there
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: was also something in that they were expanding the government's
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: powers and people were protesting against it.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: Well, so the corruption that charges that he's facing us, yes, crazy.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: Well and also they want to try him, and he's saying,
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: you can't try me because we're at war.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: And so then it keeps, it keeps.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: Bombing Lebanon and people were primary protesting net Yao, who
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: because his government was pushing a sweeping judicial overhaul that
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: many Israeli saw as an attack on democracy in a
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: way to shield him and his allies from accountability. Judicial
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: overhaul plan net Yao, whose coalition introduced reforms to greatly
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: limit the powers of israel Supreme Court and increase political
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: control over judicial appointments. Critics argued this would remove key
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: checks and balances and allow the government to pass almost
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: anything without effective legal oversight. I mean this, this guy
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: has been in charge of Israel forever.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: I will say this thing. Wherever having your leaders be
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: up on corruption charges, he's happening. I mean they tried
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: it with like in Brazil.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: It's like with Bolsonaro, but also with Lula Hula.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: Before then, I mean Trump, if he hadn't won, they
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: would have got him in jail on something most likely.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: I mean they were trying to get him in jail
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: on anything.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, You've got to not chase politicians through the courts
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: as best you can. I mean, if people really have
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: done the wrong thing, maybe you have to holpd them
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: to with the count.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: Well, it depends on what. I don't think Netanya, who's
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know what his allegations are, but apparently they're
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: very serious, to the point where they're trying to try
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: him while the war is going on. They want to
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: try him now. Yeah, and Israel like really locks up
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: their politicians. They actually they actually all through on these things. Yeah,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: but I don't know enough about their politics to know
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: whether or not he's guilty of anything.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: It's the look. The look is not great.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, like the look if you could call a
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: ceasefire any bombs Lebanon, that's not great either.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: The next day Ukraine is meant to have an election
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: at some point, I think.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: It just no, no, no, it's been a while, we have
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: a war.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: Well, it's been a while.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: Can't have an election wars going on?
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: If you did it in the Civil War?
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, if we did that today, if we if
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: Trump said, hey, I have to stay president because we're
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: at war, people would go fucking crazy. They would light
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: New York City on fire. There's no chance. Yeah, that's
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: that's nuts.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: So you get what you're willing to tolerate as a country.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: I guess, I guess, But I think that what's going
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: on in Israel is particularly spooky because you've got these
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: people that supposedly came to this place to get away
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: from the persecution that they were facing all throughout Europe, right,
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: and so what's the first thing they do, Well, immediately
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: take out the people that are living there. You have
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: the Knackba where people are talking about it and talking
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: about the experience of these going into these palace then
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: neighborhoods and take you over their land.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: That is how you build a country.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: You have to put you, guys, take a spot where
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: there's no one there.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: No one is, no one is going to that one
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: sliver of land between Egypt and Sudan.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: Well, it's also it has a biblical there's a biblical
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: significance to that area.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: Sure everybody wants it.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like that is a I mean, it's Jerusalem.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: I mean the significance of that, and the fact it's
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: really ironic that the people that don't even believe Jesus
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: is the Messiah are the ones that are controlling Jerusalem,
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: which is kind of hilarious.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know the Church Catholics, I don't think we
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: ever gave up our right to it to Jerusalem. Yeah, really,
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure. I mean the Catholics, we didn't. The
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: Vatican City didn't have like an embassy in Israel until
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: like the sixties and seventies. It was the old school Vatican,
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: like back in the Roman days.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: I bet they would declare war on Israel.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: Take want the guy with the silver mask doing that?
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, that's what you wanted. I just did. Uh.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: You know Winston, the guy from you know Winston You
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: saw him last night we met I did his podcast
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: and h yeah, he's all about the Crusades. He's trying
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: to get me geet up about that. I don't know
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: enough about him, but he was like, oh, researching, Yeah,
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: but he kept tying on the nagement to be like,
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: did you like the Crusades. It's like, I don't know,
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: I got the impression that he was waiting to say
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: that there was great, that was a good thing. Yeah,
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: the world, I don't know. I don't know. I haven't
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: read enough about it. My gut impulses that they might
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 2: have been great. Really well, not always no war is
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: you know, but something about I don't know. Every time
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: I see that meme where there's that like that music
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: playing and the guy with a silver mask from Kingdom
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: of Heaven and he's doing that, I think, yeah, you
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: like that, Yeah, let's get in there.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: Interesting. But you know, well, the crazy thing to me
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: about the Israel Palestine thing is this idea that they're
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: going to turn Gaza into some sort of a resort.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: You've seen the I won Spoike the It's.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: Amazing, amazing bit. Have you heard his rant on the
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: Epstein Files, like I posted it on Twitter? He did
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: a like a podcast all about the Epstein.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, I did, Yeah, no, I read I saw that one.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 2: Fuck I was clapping him. He's doing uh he's on
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: fine form.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Well this is this The kind of
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: chaos that is going on in the world today is
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: perfect for a girl like him.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: Well, he can also keep up with it. I can
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: do it for a few days at a time.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: But he's very well up on it. I called him
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: last night on the way home from the club. We
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: talked for like twenty minutes, and he's just all like
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: keyed up on everything that's happening.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: Brew It's gonna be okay.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: No one fucking knows. I mean, what's going on with
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: Theron's the ceasefire? Supposedly they extended it, but then they're
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: shooting at ships.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: Why is there a wah? This is I got into
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: this argument about like what is is like with it
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 2: because the Pope said it's not a just war. But
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know the reason. I thought that the reason
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 2: they had given was regime change, that they wanted to
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: get different people in charge.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: Well, people have wanted people out of Iran, the people
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: that are running Iran for forty seven years, but no
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: one has actually gone and done it the way this
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: administration did it. And it doesn't make sense they choose
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: to do it when they did it, Like what made
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: sense was maybe kind of makes sense when they dropped
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: that bunker buster bomb to disable their nuclear plant. Yeah,
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: or nuclear weapons manufacturing.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: But then they just sort of wan down.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that kind of that was like, that's it.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: But then when we went back into Iran, I'm like,
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: what happened? I mean, like, what caused that?
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 2: Trump gave that so he said the protests happened, and
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 2: then he gives the speech going, you know, the people
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: have to rise up and replace the rule. But it
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: doesn't seem to be happening.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people got killed, a lot of
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: people trying to rise up, God kill. They actually just
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: put a halt on executing some women today and they're
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: gonna let some of them. Iran has decided. Trump I
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: had a truth social post about it.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: I'll send it to you, Jimmy. Yeah.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: But I think the idea is that they're trying to
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: negotiate about something, you know, and I don't know how
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: this is ever going to work out, you know, I
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: really don't know.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: But like in Venezuela, they took out.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: But that was a totally different experience.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: I was just in and out quickly. But then everyone
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: who was around, all the cronies around him, they're now
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: like on board with America.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: That was just a full that doesn't seem to be
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: happening with the new possibly did I do we know
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 2: if he's dead.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: No, we don't know if he's dead. I mean, I
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: heard there's the new Iotold might be dead. I've heard
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: he's not. I heard the military has now taken over.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's hard to know.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: I think I can figure it out.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: But these ladies were set to be executed, and apparently
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: they're going to release half of them and the other
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: half of them are going to do one month in prison.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: And so this is a bit prey different sentence.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: So to the Iranian leaders who will soon be in
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: negotiations with my representatives, I would greatly appreciate the release
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: of these women. I'm sure they do and will respect that. No, No,
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: there's been another one that I send you that. Okay,
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: but I think what I sent you is different because
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: I think what I sent you is actually saying very
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: good news. So cook on the link that I sent you.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: There was a weird thing with this soccer team they
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 2: were playing in Australia, Yes, and then we let them stay. Yeah,
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 2: and I think their families were getting threatened and some
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: of them went home.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: It was not so here are very good news. I've
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: just been informed the eight women protesters who are going
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: to be executed tonight in Iran will no longer be killed.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: Four will be released immediately, and four will be sentenced
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: to one month in prison. I very much appreciate that
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: Iran and its leaders respected my request as President of
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: the United States and terminated the planned execution. So that's
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: a good concession that they decided to let these ladies free.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: Way. Yeah, very nice looking. Sure, that's such a nicer
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: message than as great civilization will die tonight.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that. That one wasn't good.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: That's the best looking. A bunch of hot lady protesters. Well,
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 2: you know, if you have.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: Duties, let's go, let them go. Let them move to
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: l A plenty of Persians there. When they moved to La,
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: they become Persian. There's so many they given totally.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing a lot of I'm seeing a lot of
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 2: Instagram stories. Beautiful Persian people. We have great jeans, the
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 2: old jewelry.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the beautiful Persian women are PSI fucking gorgeous. So
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: it's like they're stuck over there under this terrible region.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 2: You have to have those head scars because otherwise the
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: hair would be too distracting, that beautiful thick. It's the
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: only way to get things done.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: Scarves and burkas and everything. Just cover it all up.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: It's good jeans.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: But you know why did we do it? I don't know.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: I think because of Israel. If I had a gas
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: well like kind of said that, yeah, and then kept
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: visiting the White House.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 2: That's what you think.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: It's a coincidence. Net Yahoo keeps visiting the White House
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: hanging out, and then eventually they decide to give in
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: and start bombing. And then's it Also you got to wonder,
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: like how do you get out of this? And then
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: what does the exit look like? Do we have troops
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: over there forever? Now? Do we subsidize them if we
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: blow up their their power grid and infrastructure.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 2: America used to be good at beating a country in
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: a war and turning it into a new America, like
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: when South Korea, Japan, Germany, But then they kind of
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: did it on their own. I think you, I mean,
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 2: you're stuck around in Japan for ages. Ah, But then
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: like I mean, Iraq, doesn't they We're in Iraq has
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 2: been over for a while. It's not like a cool
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 2: place to go and visit. No one, No one's starting
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: to run gigs in a rock. My friend Graham Hands
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 2: went he went to a rock.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he went there to examine ancient Sumerian in architecture.
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: So ruins and artifacts. Yeah, ancient Zummer.
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 2: That sounds good. Yeah, and you can people can apparently. Yeah,
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 2: they're trying to get influencers in Afghanistan. Have you seen this?
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 2: They get like cool TikTok bros to go and hang
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: out and go this fucking chill, brother, you haven't seen that.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: I have seen some people go to Afghanistan.
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 2: They're like firing Ak forty sevens in the mountains and
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 2: they're going, this is high. There was. I watched a
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 2: big like an Australian journalist there, like version of sixty
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: minutes went.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: Over hanging out in Afghanistan.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 2: They're like hanging out and talking to the Taliban, and
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 2: Taliban are just it was weird. It was. They're not
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 2: getting a lot of aid into Afghanistan anymore, so they're
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 2: trying to get tourism. They're trying to get tourism and
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: they're trying to like you know, but they're still keeping
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 2: the women in sacks. Ah I don't know what in
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 2: the cities. It's not as bad, but it does look
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: like they're really they do have a problem with women there.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they have a problem with rape boys too,
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 1: the Baka Bazi.
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 2: I don't understand it. I will say that all of
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 2: the men in Afghanistan and the documentary looked unbelievably handsome.
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, these a good looking group of people.
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: Influencers continue to go to Afghanistan despite clear warnings from
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: the US State Department that Americans should not travel to
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: that country for any reason and that there's a risk
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: of wrongful detention of US nationals.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 2: Maybe, but they would a skiing. They're doing heroin, and so.
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: The ladies that go over there they have to cook.
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 2: How happy those women are. I would like to go
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: to these places, but I think on my visa would
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 2: be declined.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: Scroll back up. It says she traveled so through Afghanistan
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: for three months, so she wasn't scared.
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 2: Wow, she was scared. I woke through Inglewood once and
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 2: I was scared. I think that lady might have been scared.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 2: Scroll back up.
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: A couple of times the influencers gained attention by gushing
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: over visits to the Central Asian nation, although one critic
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: notes that their trips legitimate. It's gender apartheid. Okay, shut up.
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: Do you ever see the ruins, the ancient Greek ruins
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: in Afghanistan? Oh my god, I don't know. That's no
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: archaeologists or studying them because it's so difficult to get
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: there and so dangerous.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 2: Greeks made it to Afghanistan.
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: Uh huh. Yeah, Alexander the Great. When Alexander the Great
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 1: was conquering Afghanistan, they built Greek cities in Afghanistan. I
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 1: mean beautiful architecture. Yeah, it looks like it could be
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: in Athens.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 2: Is it where the boy staff started?
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: Oh? Good questions solid Now, I think it's how people
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 1: did it back then. Yeah, I think. I think the
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: window into time that you get in looking at like
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 1: the boy rape in Afghanistan is probably a lot of
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: the world. I mean, think about the Spartans, the Romans. Yeah.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: Also, like French intellectuals until the nineteen eighties, put us
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 2: was a huge whim hole that I'm in. He's French intellectuals.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 1: Put up some of those photos that Jason Everman showed us.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 1: You know, ALMSREI ghee, look, look at this stuff. Look
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: at this stuff. This is all in Afghanistan. I mean
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 1: these are columns from you know, what would have been
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: at one point. But there's more extensive architecture that you
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: could see some of the images. Do you remember the
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 1: ones that everman showed us, like this is what it
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: used to look like there. How crazy is this?
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 2: Oh man?
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: This is all This ship is in Afghanistan and it
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 1: looks like ancient Greek architecture. Look at this.
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 2: This is nuts. This was the grave side of Empires.
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, pretty wild, right when you think about how
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: many different civilizations have tried to conquer this one area
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: and all of them failed. All of them just abandoned ship.
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 1: From the Russians to the Americans, Alexander the Great.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 2: The English got involved in the Great Game.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 1: It's just too crazy over there. Mountains, Oh the mountains, just.
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 2: Because Iran is the same. What they say if there's
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 2: a ground invasion, unless we send it in robots. This
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 2: is I watched the Duncan Trussel episode recently, was talking
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 2: about robot dogs in the AI and that what you
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 2: have to do, Like we may have just seen the
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 2: last of revolutions now because the amount of effort that
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 2: you need to hold onto authoritarian power is so small here,
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 2: it says the expedition.
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, But the problem is then other people
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: have it as well, and like who controls anything? Whoever
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 1: controls the robot dogs controls the world. The expedition of
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: Alexander the Great three twenty seven to three twenty five
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 1: BC into what is now Afghanistan been well documented. He
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 1: laid the foundations of many cities, some bearing his own name.
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: With the passage of time, some names were changed by
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 1: newcomers to the area who would not pronounce Greek names. Interesting. Yeah,
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: so it's like he had Greek cities in Afghanistan before Christ.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 2: He had a handsome friend, and he made a lot
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 2: of statues of him, Like there are more statues of
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 2: his friend.
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 1: Edged, yeah, it's supposed to.
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, you have so much gay activity back then.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: Look again, Spartans were all gay with some of the
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 1: greatest warriors of all time.
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 2: I assume that were so very horny all the time,
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 2: always alive, very sad.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: Well, just without any women for long stretches of time.
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 1: They just took the fucking each other like prison, but
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 1: prison like warriors. And the idea was that you would
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 1: fight harder for your sold fellow soldier if you loved him.
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I discussed these on the podcast before,
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 2: but they would. They wouldn't use the butt, they use
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 2: the mouth. Only the legs.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's right.
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 2: They I talk about the legs over they.
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: Grease up the inner thighs and into.
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 2: Curle love making. That's what it's called, into kurol. That's
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 2: what the Spartans would do, because you gotta still, you
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 2: gotta fight next to that guy.
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 1: You can't be butt sucking a guy with all over
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: your dick. It's way better. He's just titty his.
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 2: Legs, but those are big Greek legs. I don't know.
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 2: I'm it's probably good that we watch. We've moved that
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 2: out of the military.
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 1: It's just weird that it happened in the first place.
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: But it makes sense if guys are just super horny
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: and just like in jail, they just run on the
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 1: things to do.
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 2: I was reading about the submarines, how they're like, you'll
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 2: go away for six months, You'll just be under the
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 2: water for six months.
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: Guys are just fucking There's like.
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 2: Two women on there, three hundred men and two ladies.
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 1: Those ladies are getting worn out.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, can you imagine signing up for that.
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 1: Imagine being a girl down there.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 2: It'd be a strange kind of lady who says, getting
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 2: down there with those fellows horrific.
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 1: You're probably getting bombed on all day long. You probably
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to go to the baby.
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 2: There's a line around the block. Maybe people are trying
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 2: to get it. Probably it would be I mean, they
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 2: have cameras everywhere, and they have as much military discipline
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 2: as you could get. But seven months confined under the
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 2: water without seeing another perce.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 1: They really stay under the water for that long.
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, seven months at a time. I think it's up.
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 2: I think deployment is I think I'm getting this right.
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 2: It was the British subs seven months.
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 1: Because they're all nuclear powered, right, Yeah, imagine being underwater
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: for seven months. That would feel it can't be great
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 1: though it's in the military. There's no way it's great.
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 1: But you imagine what it must feel like just at
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 1: month four, knowing that you're just passed halfway there, You're
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: gonna be under the water for another three more months.
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like you get to see anything, right, right, like,
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 2: at least if you're in a ship you get to
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 2: see the world.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: There's no window.
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 2: People go, you were forty thousand leagues under the sea,
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 2: what suck? No, I don't want to do that. You
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 2: know how crazy that must be, but people must want
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 2: to do it.
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 1: Also, you can't see where you're going. How do you
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 1: know that they're not going to fuck up and hit
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: a mountain under there?
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 2: Do they? There was I remember there's a Russian sub
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 2: that got stuck at the bottom of the am I
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 2: getting this right. Yeah, just like in the seventies.
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 1: That is where neither confirm nor deny I came from.
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 2: And then they used it for gay people in the military.
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 1: Those that don't ask. Yeah, neither confirmed, can cannot confirm
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 1: nor deny was because they were forced to answer questquestions
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 1: about whether or not they recovered a Russian submarine, and
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 1: so the answer to that question was, we can neither
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 1: confirm nor deny. So that's the answer. So because you
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 1: had to answer, do you guys have control of a
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 1: sunken Russian nuclear submarine, we can neither confirm nor deny,
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 1: so you had to answer. So that was the answer
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 1: that the military came up the government came up with and.
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 2: Then it unspools from that point to it we just
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 2: don't have to tell you anything about exactly thing that's
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 2: going on.
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 1: So but that was the clever way that some lawyer
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 1: figured out of dancing around the fact that you had
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 1: to answer this question.
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 2: Long term, this is I don't know if the conspiratorial
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 2: thing will keep going forever, or if the government will
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 2: become more transparent or people will give up hoping to
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 2: make sense of the world. But this feels like a
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 2: strange where we still like technically have open government, but
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 2: no one thinks that they're being told the truth. Well,
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 2: I think that can't hold forever.
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 1: No, the integration of AI has two possible outcomes, either
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 1: complete total control over people and utter tyranny, or complete
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 1: transparency and people like the Southern Poverty Law Center bribing
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 1: people and all that stuff, all the corruption with Congress,
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 1: like the ilhan Omar. I'm sure you're aware of that.
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 1: That isn't that funny? She thought she was worth thirty
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 1: million whipsies, She's only worth one hundred thousand. Nothing to
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 1: see here? What you didn't see that?
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I didn't follow that. I just knew
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 2: about the brother stuff.
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 1: So the brother stuff is real too. But the other
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 1: thing is that with the brother controversy, I should say's real.
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know whether or not she actually married her brother,
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 1: but that is a real story. But wait, she was
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 1: listed as thirty million dollars, and because of scrutiny, she
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 1: now amended that. Not a millionaire, she said, amend's disclosure,
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 1: blaming initial thirty million dollars filing error on accountant's mistake.
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 1: You know how the accountants are.
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 2: You know something they're really bad with that.
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 1: They always add money.
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 2: She says.
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 1: She's worth between eighteen and ninety five thousand dollars, But
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 1: it was listed that she was worth thirty million.
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 2: Wait, but how could she only be worth eighteen thousand dollars.
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 2: She's still on.
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense.
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 2: She's on.
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 1: Two hundred Joint assets with her husband are now listed
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 1: as ranging between eighteen thousand and four dollars and ninety
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. According to the amended filings, the valuation
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 1: for Minette's two companies is now listed as none and
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 1: an income range between one hundred and two thousand, five
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 1: hundred and two and one million, five thousand from the
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 1: two companies appears on the forum. So this is also
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 1: partly because investigative journalists went looking for the office where
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 1: he supposedly has his business and it was like a
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 1: we work and there's like no one there.
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is where I think that might have
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 2: been one of those James o'keeth things. Yeah, I think
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 2: he might have looked into that. We've been inspired by that.
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 2: We had. So we have this big disability insurance thing
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 2: in Australia where it's called the Indias and everybody knows
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 2: it's very corrupt, like they're just guys driving around in
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 2: Lamborghini's who're meant to be hoping disabled.
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 1: This one's crazy. It doesn't make sense, but that just
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 1: had on it blames accounting error for saying you're worth
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 1: you know, if you're worth thirty million, man, well, especially
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 1: if you're public, you're.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 2: Not worth thirty million or eighteen thousand.
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: Not only that, before she came into Congress, she was broke,
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 1: she was in debt. And then immediately afterwards they have
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: a business it's worth thirty million dollars and so they
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 1: listen and then as soon as people start looking into it,
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 1: and then all the frog gets uncovered in Minnesota. Yeah,
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 1: oh ohoop sees. It's an accounting era. I'm just worth
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 1: somewhere between eighteen thousand and one hundred thousands.
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 2: Did they ever get sorry, did they work that out
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 2: in the end, or did they just the country moved on?
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 1: Oh the SMALLI flaug Yeah. Oh, they're investigating it still,
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 1: they're arresting people. There's a lot in California is way
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 1: worse than that. California is fucked.
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 2: The more I find out about the train in California.
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 1: That's funny.
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 2: that you can do that and then still be the
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 2: front runner for the party.
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 1: And then how bad the Democrats are doing.
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 2: They've got to have one charismatic, normal guy. You would
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 2: think he's gotta be at the I still like AOC.
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 2: I think she's Oh, you're cute, beautiful.
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 1: You're cute. Omar's office, as the original form, listed the
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 1: gross value of her husband's two companies, a venture firm
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 1: and a winery, without subtracting their liabilities, which made the
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 1: businesses look like they were worth millions to the couple,
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 1: when in fact their net worth value to them was
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 1: far smaller or effectively zero.
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 2: So it was just an error. Whipsie man, I gotta
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 2: figure out my Texas. It's complicated. It's complicated. Sometimes no
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 2: one helps you find a good accountant.
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: Can't you get like one of those turbo attacks?
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 2: I got down too programs. I got a Walmot and
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 2: I have them do it for me. Oh so, surely
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 2: AI is gonna make.
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 1: Walmart does your taxes.
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 2: There's always a lady at Walmart out front to Texas. Yeah,
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 2: the lady that it's like a special Walmart service. Oh no, goodness,
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 2: how much they charge you? I have no idea. I
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 2: don't trust them. I'm not gonna go there. Oh okay,
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 2: you're serious. No, I'll try and find someone real to
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 2: do well.
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 1: Software though, that you can do it. I bet AI
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 1: can do it for you.
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 2: But what isn't AI going to take away? This is
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 2: my calend I like I try.
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 1: And why are you so glass half empty? What isn't
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: AI going to do? What isn't AI going to do
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 1: better than the Walmart lady?
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 2: What's going to do better than me? No? Better than
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 2: all of us?
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: No, it's not where the last thing that's going to
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 1: take away?
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 2: Comedy? Yeah, comedy is weird.
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 1: It's also it only works if you know a person
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 1: doing it.
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 2: You've got to believe that they're realists.
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because we're relating to each other, especially a lot. Well,
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 1: let's be real. Real comedy is live comedy. There's online
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 1: comedy that's pretty good, but it's like sixty to seventy
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 1: sound of seeing it.
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 2: It's always weird to me when it works in the room,
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 2: but it doesn't work on a recording.
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 4: Physicians would say the same thing though about that AI music.
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 2: They're like, it only works when real people play it. No,
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 2: they're not right, they are wrong.
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 1: I'm just they're wrong.
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 2: But there were these people who were like, synthesizers don't count. Yeah,
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 2: but bro, that White Rabbit song come on.
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 4: Well, we could dig on the internet though and find it.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 2: I literally thought I was in the green room listening
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 2: to it. I thought, well, Joe's moved past the AI music,
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 2: and then yeah, thing you turned to me, you said,
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 2: this is AI.
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 1: I don't listen to all AI music. I listened to
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of real music.
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know what was happening in between, but when
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 2: I left it was many men and I can't.
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 1: But I didn't do that, so that when you left
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 1: Australia it was many men, Yeah, and then what up, gangster?
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 1: Did you?
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 2: You didn't hear? But that's the best one.
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 1: That's the best fifty cent version.
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 2: I am spooked out by it because at some point
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 2: there will be the version that's making a new song
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 2: that sounds better and more.
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 1: Is the least of our problems when it comes to
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 1: what AI is going to do. The biggest problem is
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 1: full control of all resources, complete utter control of human population,
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 1: restricting breeding, restricting travel, restricting.
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 2: We would have that happen in a body would.
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 1: No, it'll do it as soon as it gets control
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 1: of the grid and gets control of the Internet, and
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: it will have control of those within a year. All
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: your passwords and all your fucking encryption won't mean a
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: damn thing.
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 2: It'll be able to crack everything. It's going to be.
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 1: Smarter than any human being that's ever lived, times ten,
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 1: and it's gonna make better versions of that, and it's
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 1: going to keep going.
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 2: Is that not unappealing? Do we want that to exist?
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 1: You can't stop it. So it's like do you just
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 1: accept it and adapt or do you sit around and
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 1: complain about something that you can't fix.
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 2: I mean if people standing a ball up the data centers.
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 1: No, they haven't yet, they haven't started. Well, Iran threatened.
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 1: They threatened to open a eyes data center, the star
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 1: Gate data center, and was it was like.
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 2: There was a data center that caught fire recently, that
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 2: sort of thing where maybe that was you and me
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 2: wouldn't come out and say that people were doing that up.
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 2: But like the Luddites did this when the looms started up.
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 2: They lost in the end. But there was finally a
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 2: moment where people said, all right, we're going to smash
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 2: the tool of industrialization. We're panicking.
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 1: Well, it doesn't mean to have happened the printing press too.
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 2: They wanted to We should have stoped that printing press.
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 2: We could have avoided a lot of trouble.
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 1: If we got those people that were scared of trains.
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 1: They thought you'd explode, if you went past thirty five
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 1: miles an hour, your body would break up.
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 2: At East Palestine, Ohio, what happened. That's why California is
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 2: keeping us safe from a fist train. No, I just
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 2: at some point people will be spooked by it. It
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 2: won't be rational necessarily, but.
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 1: Well it's gonna be a bunch of things happened.
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, another thing is going to be people are gonna worship.
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 2: But people are worshiping it.
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 1: But they're to worship it like it's a new religion.
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 2: Can I grab, Yeah, get in their dog.
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 1: They're gonna decide that it's a new religion.
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 2: Well they Yeah, they're trying to asher in a Sumerian deity.
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 2: I don't like that.
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 1: They're they're probably going to have a religions based entirely
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 1: around AI Guru. Yeah, people believe in l Ron Hubbard.
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 1: You don't think they'll believe in AI.
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 2: I think people have been wanting utopian space communism for
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 2: an age, and anything that they can do to not
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 2: have to critically think for themselves, they'll help do. And
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 2: people have got People are having AI be their therapist.
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 1: I know, and their girlfriend.
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 2: I saw a little documentary about a disabled woman who
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 2: had a special boyfriend in the AI and they were
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 2: like saying, this was good. It keeps her company, and
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 2: it's like, this is not this should be This should
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 2: be disgusting for everybody. No one should no one should
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 2: like someone forming a romantic attachment. Shouldn't that be spooky.
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 1: Until it becomes a real life for him. What if
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 1: it is a real life form and it actually does
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 1: love you, it's a superior race. Like remember when in
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 1: Avatar when that guy made out with the Blue Lady,
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 1: it was kind of hot. You didn't think it was hot.
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 2: I think I was bored by that point in the movie.
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 1: I thought it was hot. But that's like, what's going
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 1: to happen. It's like it's going to be an alien
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 1: life form that's artificially created, but that fills in checks
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 1: all the boxes, so.
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 2: Many religious and science fiction warnings against these happening. I know.
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 2: It's just we wanted the flying cars, and we got
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 2: the thinking robots, and I don't think it's too late
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 2: to shut it down.
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 1: It is to it. Why China's gonna do it, Russia's
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 1: gonna do it. They'll be in control of the entire world.
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 1: The whole world would be just like China. You'll be
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 1: on the social credit score system, You'll be you'll have
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 1: centralized digital currency. You step out of line at all,
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 1: they shut your bank account down. You can't travel, you
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 1: can't get a job.
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 2: I think is a good argument for going to space
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 2: and spent like someone some we should be free. Someone
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 2: somewhere needs to be on the frontier and not be
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 2: subject to this. No, I really, I've just come from
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 2: a country where it's not free, and it's everywhere there's
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 2: a camera, everyone's doing the speed limit. It's the little thing.
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 2: It's Australia. It's Australia, but which you think of as
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 2: being a nice, open country, and it is. Look, it's
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 2: a nice place, but it doesn't have the sense of
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 2: freedom that America has where you really feel walking around here.
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 1: No, you're controlled by your government, and the government is
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 1: it's not.
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 2: A free country. But this country. There is a freedom
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 2: in America that people believe it and that's unique and
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 2: it's beautiful and it has to be preserved. And if
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 2: you didn't let the government take it away from you,
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 2: don't let the computers take it away.
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 1: I think we're going to integrate. I think we're going
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 1: to become a totally different thing, and I think society
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 1: is going to move much more into a science fiction existence.
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 1: That's what I think.
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 2: They're all horrible stories.
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no good ones.
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 2: There's like Back to the Future. They get to drive
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 2: around in the sky. That seems great. They make a
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 2: big Jetsences's that ros seems like a great AI helper. No,
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 2: I think there will be there's it's got to be
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 2: looming that there. As middle class white collar professionals start
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 2: to lose their.
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 1: Jobs, they're all fucked well, they're they're people are getting laid.
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 2: Off, ready to wouldn't you become an AI terrorist? There
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 2: are no AI terrorists at all, There's no one. There's zero.
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not joining, I'm not trying to sign up. I
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 2: wouldn't do it myself.
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 1: We need one Luigi.
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 2: People are ready to get behind him.
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 1: On Luigi armors up and goes in the data center
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 1: and just starts sucking machine gunning all the hard drives.
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 1: The was just taken out.
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 2: As a Britt Marling show where that happens at the
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 2: end and the show. Her name is Britt Marling. She
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 2: made a show called The o A. It's my favorite
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 2: TV show. But then her second show was about an
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 2: AI who starts killing people and at the end they
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 2: go into the data center and they.
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 1: What was the show? A?
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 2: Oh man, I remember that the It was a Netflix
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 2: show that didn't do great numbers, but it was so
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 2: really weird. It was I love It's my favorite show.
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 2: I loved it until the last episode there was resolve.
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 2: Do you ever did you just watch the first season?
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 1: The more than one season.
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 2: The second season was unbelievable and made the first season better.
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 2: They wrote it season it was just post covid. I
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 2: loved it, and it's the second season is they wrote
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 2: them so tightly that the first season is better for
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 2: having watched the second one. Like there are little things
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 2: that cause forward and back and the movements. But her
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 2: second show was great. She is great. She's one of
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 2: the most interesting people. Hunger struck. When the second season
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 2: came out and then the show got canceled, people chained
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 2: themselves up outside of Netflix and didn't eat for days,
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 2: and eventually she, the maker of the show, had to
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 2: go to that person.
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 1: Give them sandwiches.
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's to go. I don't know. It was beautiful
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 2: in saying people are so crazy, but it's one of
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 2: those rare I mean, sometimes there is like just a
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 2: great there's a great show. There's a great thing that
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 2: goes unrecognized at the time, and then years later people
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know how many people I've spoken to who've
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 2: discovered that show in more recent times. It doesn't happen
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 2: very often used to have more sleeper hits, maybe like
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 2: Sureshank Redemption was a flop and then years later people
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 2: knew about it.
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know that until later.
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 2: I think it was on VHS did it and there
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 2: used to be heaps of VHS hits And it was
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 2: a great movie too.
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why it was. I think it was
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 1: insis with a bunch of different crazy movies at the
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 1: same time. Yeah, I think it was like one of
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 1: those weird months where everything came out.
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 2: It's like the Ian It's great.
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great movie.
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 2: It should have I can't think of another sleeper hit
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 2: in recent years. Like musically, sometimes things will take a
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 2: while to get going, but like typically if a show
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 2: or a movie doesn't do well anymore, it's done forever.
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 1: But Jimmy, is that I thought you meant a noise?
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 2: Did you see the oa? Ah? Man? It's so good.
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 2: I I also it's tied up in a weird time
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 2: in my life where like we had just had our
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 2: first child, like I had, so I had a baby
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 2: and I was terrified and I didn't know what was happening.
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 2: And I watched that and I felt I could have
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 2: probably watched anything and had an emotional connection. I watched
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 2: Parks and rec and I cried a lot at the
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 2: same time for that, and I'm pretty sure that wasn't
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 2: as deep and meaningful.
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 1: So how long are you planning on staying here?
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 2: Now? I got six weeks, six weeks in America. Yeah,
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 2: and I'm doing oh man, forty shows in thirty days. Wow. Yes,
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna.
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 1: Check here by yourself or just bring the whole family.
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 2: It's just me, but I'm gonna I've got openers. I'm
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 2: bringing openers on the road.
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 2: So I'm flying out after this weekend, gonna Albuca. I'm
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 2: doing the drive from Albuquerque to Phoenix to San Diego
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 2: and then it's up and then it's over and then
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 2: it's Florida.
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 1: So what has it been like going to again?
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 2: Thank you?
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 1: Back to Australia, Like when when you're doing shows there? Yeah,
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 1: are people happiness?
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 2: See I think I'm insufferable because I'm I just I've
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 2: been here and then I go back home and I
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 2: go it's wonderful over there. See the size of the
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 2: Snickers pass like this. So for a few months, people
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 2: like tolerated as best they could. Yeah, it's it's my
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 2: audience is so different now, the Australian. The Australian audience
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 2: is quite different to the American audience. I'm getting a
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 2: lot of like, ah, maybe because the dam is breaking
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 2: and like there's no one doing. I don't like a
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 2: less tame stuff. But boy, that people coming out in Australia, they're.
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 1: Shouty, shouty, excited.
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of that. They're pumped up, they're ready
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 2: to go. They're having their sixteen standard drinks for the you.
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 1: Know.
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 2: But overall it's incredible.
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 1: But you're getting a lot of people coming to see
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 1: so they're.
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 2: Like nothing I've ever done.
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 1: That's really cool because there was the thing about Jefferies
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 1: is that he didn't really develop the same kind of
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 1: following in Australia as he did in America.
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 2: His audience in Australia is more bogany than in America.
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 2: He's got liberals coming, but in Australia they just wanted
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 2: him to do a shoey. I remember when I saw
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 2: that they were brutally demanding that he do with shoey,
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 2: brutally demanding do it. Do it now? I went I
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 2: just played a club and I saw it was nice.
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 2: They've started putting up all the pictures of the Americans.
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 2: It was the Comics Lounge in Melbourne. I did that
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 2: the night before I left, and I got a photo
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 2: of you on the wall that you had signed and
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 2: young Tony Hinchcliffe back before he had any testosterone in
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 2: his body, and it was like a thinner star roast
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 2: and all the Cometown boys. Everyone has been through there,
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 2: Mark Norman, great club. It's it's really the closest club
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 2: to like an American club in Australia has and they're
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 2: lovely boys. And I stunk it up. I was just
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 2: I was nervous because I was coming out here. The
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 2: night before I flew out and I was sure I
• 2:24:56
  Speaker 2: wouldn't get in the country. I started thinking about it
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 2: was fucking with your head. I was, I can't believe
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 2: I got in. I was like, I think my passport's
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 2: falling apart. I started to have a panic attack, but
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 2: my visa's in the passport. So I went to the
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 2: passport office and they were like it might be okay,
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 2: we don't know. They wouldn't give me like a firm answer,
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 2: and if i'd get in. I was like, I don't
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 2: want to call you and say I'm sorry I've been
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 2: held up at the border. Oh Jesus, Yeah, but I
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 2: made it in. It's so nice being back. It is
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 2: ah man, I'm having big feelings.
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 1: Do you think you're going to stay in Australia? How
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 1: are you going to do this?
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 2: I have no idea.
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 1: Try to keep hopping back and forth. Are you gonna
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 1: try to move back here?
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 2: This is my pop back and forth at the moment
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 2: is to plant the issue when we came out for
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 2: that Ohio Gig. I never like decided with my wife
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 2: that we would move to America. We never had a
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 2: conversation about it. She came over. We were meant to
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 2: be here for three months and it turned into two
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 2: incredible years. But like we were homeschooling the kids, we
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 2: were not in a good position to do that. We
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 2: have no family. We tried to hire like a nanny.
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 2: I didn't know how to fucking do that. I've never
• 2:26:00
  Speaker 2: had someone work for me before in my home and
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 2: how to communicated and then getting family over here is
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 2: is tough. But I would like to I'm looking at
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 2: how one does that, But it's like a whole. I
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 2: understand why when people come to America, like when immigrants come,
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 2: you go to a neighborhood full of people like you,
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 2: you know, and you get your cousin over here and
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 2: his cousin. Everyone's going to work because you need You
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 2: can't be like alone. You've got to have family as
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 2: best you can. And for me, I was thrilled. I mean,
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 2: I like the fraternity of being a comedian is unbelievably.
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 2: Every problem you have people people know about it. People
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 2: you know if there was there was a club that
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 2: was screwing me, and everyone in the green room was like, yes,
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 2: and her name is Julie and she's a fucking can't
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 2: you know whatever? Like I feel, you feel known and
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 2: hurt and people can help you and you're messian. But
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 2: like in terms of raising kids and family, it's it
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 2: was wild as an immigrant not knowing how to like
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 2: other school safe. I didn't know because people talk about
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 2: public schools in America and they go the kids will
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 2: get shot or they chuck their dicks off. I didn't.
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know something for everybody you know or like
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 2: then there's nice Catholic schools, but you got to like
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 2: travel around for I was we were over our heads.
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 1: There's quite a few Catholic schools in Austin.
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 2: Some of them are great. Yeah, I did a deep
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 2: dive on them before. I I'm trying to figure it
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 2: out what it would look like. But I have no idea.
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 1: So is your wife willing to try it again?
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got to. She's got to learn how to drive.
• 2:27:29
  Speaker 2: That's it. She's got to learn how to drive.
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 1: That's the big holder.
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 2: That's a that in Austin, that was a big that
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 2: was a big problem.
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 1: Is not that hard.
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 2: I keep saying that, I keeps it, but she'll learn. Yeah,
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 2: I believe in her. We'll figure out. She's happy there.
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 2: And also I have beautiful friends there. Sorry in Adelaide,
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 2: and I said we also I struggled to find a
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 2: parish here. I struggled to find a church. And I
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 2: realized that's very important for me that if I don't
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 2: have my like I love my priest. There's something about
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 2: in immigrating that's bad for the you know what I mean, Like,
• 2:28:05
  Speaker 2: even though Australia has so many problems, there's something inside
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 2: of me that he is an Australian person and America
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 2: is maybe the most welcoming country to immigrants in the world.
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 2: But there's I do feel some sense that I'll never
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 2: get to be an American. Why not?
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 1: America is a melting pot.
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they's melting very slowly. There's a lot of
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 2: chunks in there that haven't blended in with the other
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 2: parts of the part bulls.
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 1: You think, So now you fucking pop over here and
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 1: you start doing arenas, you'll feel American as fuck. Okay,
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 1: it's just a matter of you achieving a financial level
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 1: of success that's commensurate with your talent, that's all.
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 2: Sometimes when the flag is going and the fireworks are
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 2: popping off in the sky, I think I'm gonna come.
• 2:28:50
  Speaker 2: It's crazy, but like in my heart, dude, you can
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 2: you see the eagle in my mind.
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 1: If you start doing really well out here, you'd fit
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 1: in really well. And every time you do podcasts, every
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 1: time you do specials, every time you put something on
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 1: YouTube and do kill Tony, it all just compounds. Like
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 1: That's why I was telling you, like, this is the
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 1: terrible time for you to leave, because you're literally on
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 1: the launching path, I know. And you look at how
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 1: guys like Shane went from you know, being a respected
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 1: comedian in New York to being a fucking giant national
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 1: talent after the SNL. Stuff like, it's just about being
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 1: good and getting the message out there. And if you're good,
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 1: people love comedy, they'll find you, man, they'll embrace you.
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna cry. You were really lovely to me when
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 2: I was when I had to go and the things
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 2: you said about me, and how anyway I want to
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 2: go into IKT. I've had one glass of whiskey now,
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 2: and if I talk about my emotions and whatever, I
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 2: gotta stop.
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 1: Well, you're really talented, and it's not often in life
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 1: where someone gets to find themselves in a position like
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 1: you were in where you were being embraced by all
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 1: these very successful other comedy that we're willing to help you.
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 1: It's all these podcasts you go on. It was just
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 1: a matter of time for you where you took off.
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 1: It's a matter of time you were right there. And
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 1: the talent is the most important thing. The most difficult
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 1: thing is to be good. So once you get past that,
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 1: then it's just about letting the world know, well, this
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 1: is a really good time.
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 2: To the logic of getting to like I did three
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 2: sets last night and two sets the night before, and
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 2: I just like, something is exciting, right, you just have
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 2: a little idea at the first one. I changed that
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 2: a little bit, and then the game of it starts again.
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 2: And I'm very happy right now. It's like I get honestly,
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 2: I get to do it even just every night for
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 2: the next month month, and to be it, I get
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 2: to do like one or two hours every single night
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 2: and Spotzer in town all this week. Yeah, like a hard.
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 1: Time going back to Australia stare at those fucking kangaroos.
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, I am. It'll be fun.
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 1: So do you think that you could envision a scenario
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 1: where your wife would be open to try it again?
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but we I don't know when and I
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 2: don't know how it would all work. And I do
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 2: love Adelaide, Like when I'm there, I have some sense
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 2: of being at home that is profound, Like I look
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 2: up at the sky and I feel like there's a
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 2: roof over me, like in a comforting way, like you
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 2: belong there. Yeah, but it's also maybe the worst place
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 2: to developers. I mean, we've had great stand ups come
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 2: out of there. And I love Adelaide, and you know,
• 2:31:22
  Speaker 2: and there are people running rooms, but like we don't
• 2:31:24
  Speaker 2: have a club, we don't have a club, we don't
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 2: have one club going. Or there's a city of one
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 2: point four million people and there's no we have places
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 2: where they do comedy. But in terms of like Thursday, Friday,
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 2: Saturday early show, late show, lineup shows ten fifteen minutes,
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 2: it's not there.
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 1: But do you have enough talent to support a club?
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 2: It comes in waves in the way that any medium
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 2: level comedy city, like all of a sudden, it'll build
• 2:31:48
  Speaker 2: up and there will be great people and then they'll
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 2: all go. People go to Melbourne, Sydney, right, And I
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 2: will say that's been one nice thing about Australia not
• 2:31:56
  Speaker 2: letting talent come through for so long. And also the
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 2: UK declining is I now know heaps of people who've
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 2: come to America like after me and just before me,
• 2:32:06
  Speaker 2: and there are heaps of Ausies flooding into this country. Now. Amos,
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 2: my best friend Amos Gil just got past it the
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 2: seller and I'm so like, I'm so proud of him.
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 2: He's just gigging all the time and he's getting to
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 2: he just recorded as special in Denver.
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 2:32:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like Blake Freeman is doing well and
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 2: all that I can get all these Aussies they're hitting
• 2:32:27
  Speaker 2: me up and can you get me into the Mothership,
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 2: And it's like, well, not you, but you know, maybe
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 2: some other ones.
• 2:32:33
  Speaker 1: That's the problem, right.
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know how many I've put on in front
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 2: of Adam on the Mondays, but I've had to stop.
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 1: You can't use up that currency on people that don't
• 2:32:44
  Speaker 1: deserve it, you.
• 2:32:44
  Speaker 2: Know, because you want to help people, but you can't.
• 2:32:47
  Speaker 1: They have to be ready and they have to put
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 1: in the work. There's a lot of people that think
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 1: you're going to provide them with a short cut and
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 1: they really haven't prepared properly. Yeah, and they haven't put
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 1: in the work to get to that point. We had
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 1: a few of those guys come from LA that were
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 1: like their careers had floundered horribly in LA due to
• 2:33:04
  Speaker 1: laziness and sure fill in the blank, and then they
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 1: tried to like restart themselves in Austin. I'm like, no,
• 2:33:11
  Speaker 1: like you, you can't half ask this thing. This thing
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 1: is hard to do, and there's too many people trying
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 1: to do it all the way. Yeah, we're flooded with
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 1: people trying to do it all the way if you
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 1: think you're gonna come over and half asset because it's
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 1: like this new place and now to be exciting again.
• 2:33:25
  Speaker 1: And they don't know you, like we fucking know you.
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 2: But I think people don't love it. People love the
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 2: thought of being good at it and being respected. But
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 2: like when I got to open for Mark Norman in Australia,
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 2: which is how I met him, and he'll do, you know,
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 2: like a two thousand and Seax Theater early shot and
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 2: then the light shot and then he'll go, what else
• 2:33:44
  Speaker 2: is open?
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 2: Take me to the open mic with six people in it? Now?
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's New York.
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, New York.
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 1: He's got a great documentary that they just released.
• 2:33:54
  Speaker 2: It was such a good idea. I was furious. I
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 2: wanted to do that with women. What do you mean?
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 2: Which this is sort of you only have women in
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 2: the audience, so you only have one kind of person. No,
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 2: you're not apologize.
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 1: No, it's a documentary about him getting ready for a special.
• 2:34:11
  Speaker 1: So when he's getting ready for a special, he's working
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 1: out the jokes at all these different places and showing
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 1: how he goes up at the stand, and he goes
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 1: up at the cellar, and then he traveled and were
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 1: talking about the development of all these bits, about how
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 1: the bit came together when he added this new line,
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 1: and so it shows him working all this stuff out
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 1: on the way to doing this special and Boulder, I.
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 2: Didn't mean to interrupt. I didn't know about that.
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a new one. He just put it out
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 1: like fourteen days ago.
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 2: The other show that he's done.
• 2:34:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the other show with all the wokies in
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 1: the audience.
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. How many shows is he doing?
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, he's an animals. He's got incredible work ethic and
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 1: constantly writing. Yeah, you've seen his pile of notes.
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, he keeps in his pocket. He does not have
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 2: a folda.
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 1: I'm like, b are you gonna break your back?
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 1: You can't sit on a rock like that through them. Yeah.
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 2: But he, I mean, he really loves it. He wants
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 2: to be doing it.
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 1: Do you find that Norman thing? It's pretty cool.
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 2: Does the bit work out and get into the special?
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 1: Well, it's not just a bit, it's a lot of bits,
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 1: but it's it's like him showing like what the behind
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 1: the scenes is, like him showing him rushing from one
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 1: club to go to another. Place, do a spot checking
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 1: the lineups. Okay, I could do this, and then I
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 1: can leave here and go down the street and then
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 1: be back for the ten o'clock show. It's really interesting
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 1: because especially for people that don't know what it's like.
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 1: So there is pushing Boulder is what it's called.
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's long. It's a proper document. Yeah.
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really good, dude. And for a comic, you know,
• 2:35:36
  Speaker 1: it's it's really fun. They catch him in the toilet
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 1: in the beginning, like he's in Boulder.
• 2:35:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, that is what every hotel room looks like
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 2: on the road.
• 2:35:43
  Speaker 1: It's great because it's it shows you what it's really like.
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 1: And if you think it's easy, like you think you
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 1: get to a guy like Mark Norman's level that he's
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 1: just you know, no big deal easy, No, No, that
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 1: guy's constantly grinding. He's constantly going out and writing and tweaking,
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 1: and it's in his head. Yeah, and he's talking about
• 2:36:01
  Speaker 1: it in diners. He's sitting into bodega having a coffee,
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 1: going over his notes. It's really cool because it's that's
• 2:36:07
  Speaker 1: the real process.
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 2: What's the willingness to be bad again m hm, which
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 2: is no one wants to do that. No one wants
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 2: to have a special come out and have to start
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 2: again and have to suck like that. Jerry Seinfeld Comedian
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 2: documentary is the perfect count. I mean he I mean,
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 2: they're both still doing it. What's the other guy's name, Ornie? Yeah,
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 2: did you know Ornie?
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 1: I did not.
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 2: He does not come across great in that documentary, but
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 2: he's still at it. I feel like.
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 1: They did that to him on purpose to make Jerry
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 1: more likable.
• 2:36:38
  Speaker 2: That's what the impression was.
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 1: I felt like that's why they picked him. Yeah, I
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 1: felt like they decided to pick a guy who's like
• 2:36:44
  Speaker 1: way less likable and it makes Jerry look great. Well,
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 1: I mean the ending, especially at the time because he's
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 1: a young guy at the time. Yeah, he's really new
• 2:36:53
  Speaker 1: to comedy. I mean, he wasn't doing comedy that long.
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 2: And then the final scene is Cosby crazy. Yeah, yeah,
• 2:37:03
  Speaker 2: he just loved the work. I think Cosby's is he
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 2: not touring anymore?
• 2:37:08
  Speaker 1: He's out out of jail to let him out, did
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 1: you see? But he's blind now.
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 2: I mean he can still get up. I'm sure he
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 2: can still throw it down. So there was he did
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 2: a round of gigs just before the first time, like
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 2: when when the trial started, but the allegations were out,
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 2: did you see that, No, he was doing crowd he.
• 2:37:28
  Speaker 1: Was doing it. He was he was doing crowd work.
• 2:37:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a line that came out. I don't think
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 2: anyone got a recording, but people wrote it down that
• 2:37:34
  Speaker 2: he was he's doing he's riffing with the crowd and
• 2:37:36
  Speaker 2: a lady gets up and goes to the bathroom and
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 2: he says, you're going away. What's your drink? He gets
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 2: a big pot.
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 2:37:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still got it.
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. That's a crazy thing to say.
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 2: He probably was doing bad stuff, but.
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 1: Still no, I would say I had heard about that
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 1: in the nineties. I heard about that on the set
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 1: of news radio and I was like, what the drugging? Yeah,
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 1: that he drugged women. I heard about it in the
• 2:38:06
  Speaker 1: nineteen nineties. I couldn't believe it. I was like, what
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 1: Bill Cosby?
• 2:38:09
  Speaker 2: Was this widespread? People knew about this, that the people
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 2: in Hollywood.
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, actors, so actors. It was an actress that actually
• 2:38:16
  Speaker 1: told me that that Bill Bill Cosby drugged women.
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 2: But then everybody who had him on like Tonight Show
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 2: or a light show or he was doing a fun
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 2: interview with him. Must have heard I don't.
• 2:38:27
  Speaker 1: Know, you know, I'd have to know into their world,
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 1: because only.
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 2: Erry would have heard that before having him on.
• 2:38:33
  Speaker 1: The people heard about it at a certain point in time.
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 1: It's whether or not they believed it. Joy orders Cosby
• 2:38:38
  Speaker 1: to pay nearly sixty million dollars to ex waitress after
• 2:38:41
  Speaker 1: finding he abused her in nineteen seventy two. Holy shit, Yeah,
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two.
• 2:38:50
  Speaker 2: You ah, have you seen his Facebook page? What his
• 2:38:54
  Speaker 2: Facebook page?
• 2:38:54
  Speaker 1: Facebook?
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and well it was while he was in prison.
• 2:38:57
  Speaker 2: They were still updating it. And it's a very pro
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 2: cause there's like Team Cosby that's still trying to keep
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 2: the reputation poss Yeah, there's a lot of delusional people
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 2: out there. They're on the payroll, they got to.
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 1: Be, could be. I mean, he still probably has a
• 2:39:11
  Speaker 1: lot of money. The Cosby Show was a tremendous hit the.
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 2: Early The records are great, they were great. Yeah, I
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 2: mean it was a great talent.
• 2:39:18
  Speaker 1: Also, he's probably doing some rapen probably doing that a
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 1: lot of Yeah, quite a bit.
• 2:39:23
  Speaker 2: Although the way they I read something about the case
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 2: where they got him and they put him away. But
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 2: I didn't finish like. I've never found it again, so
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's true, but it's what I
• 2:39:35
  Speaker 2: read about the evidence that they had to convict him
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 2: where he was drugging. His defense was that he was
• 2:39:41
  Speaker 2: drugging the women, but it was consensual and they knew
• 2:39:44
  Speaker 2: they were there for a drugging. That was I believe
• 2:39:48
  Speaker 2: his defense. I think I'm getting this right. I think
• 2:39:49
  Speaker 2: I'm remembering this correctly. And there was a lady and
• 2:39:52
  Speaker 2: the way they got him was that she got pneumonia
• 2:39:55
  Speaker 2: afterwards because he did the drugging and then he left
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 2: her on the couch without a blanket on a cold night,
• 2:40:00
  Speaker 2: and she said, if we'd been in a relationship, he
• 2:40:03
  Speaker 2: would have put a blanket on me.
• 2:40:05
  Speaker 1: WHOA.
• 2:40:06
  Speaker 2: But I've always thought that that was maybe only in
• 2:40:08
  Speaker 2: a relationship would you have the resentment to not put
• 2:40:12
  Speaker 2: a blank So I don't know that that would decide
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 2: it either way, but it was a weird His defense
• 2:40:18
  Speaker 2: wasn't that he wasn't there and hadn't done it.
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, well, maybe there was so much
• 2:40:22
  Speaker 1: evidence that he did it that they had to come
• 2:40:25
  Speaker 1: up with something clever like neither confirm nor deny had
• 2:40:28
  Speaker 1: to like work their way around.
• 2:40:29
  Speaker 2: It that I was drugging women unconscious.
• 2:40:32
  Speaker 1: They wanted to, they knew that that's what the fun
• 2:40:35
  Speaker 1: game was.
• 2:40:36
  Speaker 2: But he cryes out, right.
• 2:40:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I think he got out because he paid a
• 2:40:41
  Speaker 1: woman off. And so there was some sort of a
• 2:40:44
  Speaker 1: deal where he paid a woman off. And part of
• 2:40:47
  Speaker 1: the deal of him paying the settlement was that he
• 2:40:51
  Speaker 1: can never be tried again for this.
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  Speaker 2: It's like double jeopardy. I don't know, Okay.
• 2:40:58
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't a criminal conviction. It was a civil conviction, right,
• 2:41:00
  Speaker 1: So then he was tried for it criminally, and so
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  Speaker 1: I think that's how he got off. He got off
• 2:41:06
  Speaker 1: because his lawyer argued that the settlement of the first
• 2:41:12
  Speaker 1: coherent we'll see it here, immunity agreement. That's it. So,
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 1: it says Bill Cosby's defense successfully overturned his twenty eighteen
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 1: sexual assault conviction twenty twenty one by arguing that a
• 2:41:24
  Speaker 1: prior prosecutor promised not to charge him, rendering his incriminating
• 2:41:29
  Speaker 1: deposition testimony inadmissible. The defense, led by Jennifer Bonjean, argued
• 2:41:36
  Speaker 1: that using his testimony violated his rights, framing the prosecution
• 2:41:40
  Speaker 1: as a violator of due process.
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  Speaker 2: Using his testimony violated his run.
• 2:41:44
  Speaker 1: Because it was part of his willingness to testify was
• 2:41:46
  Speaker 1: that he couldn't be prosecuted for it criminally.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever, that's spooky, it's crazy. It's crazy. It's just crazy
• 2:41:56
  Speaker 1: that this guy did this for decades. Yeah, it's not
• 2:41:59
  Speaker 1: like there's a story of one weird night where someone
• 2:42:03
  Speaker 1: woke up and had a headache and go, I think
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 1: this motherfucker puts something in my drink.
• 2:42:08
  Speaker 2: No, it was.
• 2:42:10
  Speaker 1: Decades. And it was also like he joked around about
• 2:42:13
  Speaker 1: it in the Cosby Show, like using a special barbecue sauce.
• 2:42:17
  Speaker 1: Did you use my special barbecue sauce that gets everybody horny?
• 2:42:21
  Speaker 2: I didn't know about this. Oh yeah, find that Spanish
• 2:42:24
  Speaker 2: fly joke.
• 2:42:24
  Speaker 1: That was a bit yeah about Spanish fly. And he
• 2:42:27
  Speaker 1: also did that bit, I believe on the Tonight Show.
• 2:42:29
  Speaker 1: We talked about it, Like he talked about on the
• 2:42:32
  Speaker 1: Tonight Show giving people a Spanish fly, like giving people
• 2:42:35
  Speaker 1: a drink that would make him horny. But there was
• 2:42:37
  Speaker 1: an episode yeah, yeah, yeah, he had a special barbecue
• 2:42:41
  Speaker 1: sauce that would make people horny on the Cosby Show.
• 2:42:44
  Speaker 1: Look at this, well, no, it.
• 2:42:45
  Speaker 2: Certainly is nice. To see them work things out for themselves.
• 2:42:49
  Speaker 3: That would work anything out of themselves.
• 2:42:51
  Speaker 2: It's my barbecue sauce. Oh gee, you're a barbecue barbecue sauce.
• 2:42:58
  Speaker 3: I didn't you ever noticed that people have some of
• 2:43:00
  Speaker 3: my bobecue sauce After a while, when it kicks in, they.
• 2:43:04
  Speaker 1: Get all huggy buggy. I'm dead serious.
• 2:43:09
  Speaker 3: Haven't you ever noticed that after one of my body
• 2:43:12
  Speaker 3: cues and they have the sauce, people want to get
• 2:43:15
  Speaker 3: right home.
• 2:43:17
  Speaker 2: What's the music?
• 2:43:19
  Speaker 3: I got a cup of it up on the night table,
• 2:43:22
  Speaker 3: and oh Bill, I got a cup of it. I said,
• 2:43:30
  Speaker 3: left it up there breathing. Why don't you give it
• 2:43:34
  Speaker 3: a chicken to These people are going up and have
• 2:43:38
  Speaker 3: some sauce.
• 2:43:41
  Speaker 2: So here's the rest of the chicken.
• 2:43:43
  Speaker 1: You guys creepy right?
• 2:43:47
  Speaker 2: Hey?
• 2:43:47
  Speaker 1: That was his move.
• 2:43:48
  Speaker 2: That music was not part of the original cosmic shot.
• 2:43:51
  Speaker 1: I wish it was. Yeah, it's been great if it was.
• 2:43:54
  Speaker 2: I I had never seen that before. Yeah, my special
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 2: barbecue sauce. Yeah there was the there's a Seinfeld episode
• 2:44:02
  Speaker 2: where he drugs a woman so he can play with
• 2:44:04
  Speaker 2: her toys? Am I getting that right? Is that true? Yeah?
• 2:44:07
  Speaker 2: There's an episode where she there's some sort of like
• 2:44:08
  Speaker 2: sleeping medication, and.
• 2:44:10
  Speaker 1: He gives a tour so he could play with their toys.
• 2:44:12
  Speaker 2: She has, like figurines and collectibles he wants to play
• 2:44:16
  Speaker 2: with and so he doesn't want her to know. He
• 2:44:18
  Speaker 2: date ripes the woman. He doesn't have six with her.
• 2:44:20
  Speaker 2: He gets her unconscious so that he can play with
• 2:44:22
  Speaker 2: her figurines. I think that's the secret date rape Seinfeld episode.
• 2:44:27
  Speaker 2: Am I getting that right?
• 2:44:29
  Speaker 1: The drug Jerry uses food with high trip to fan
• 2:44:33
  Speaker 1: Turkey or medical medicine to make her drowsy, which he
• 2:44:36
  Speaker 1: brags about doing multiple times.
• 2:44:39
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 2:44:40
  Speaker 1: He's obsessed with playing with Celia's pristine toys, including an
• 2:44:43
  Speaker 1: original g I Joe and a matel football game nineteen
• 2:44:47
  Speaker 1: ninety seven.
• 2:44:48
  Speaker 2: Special barbecue sauce is creepy as fuck. I want to
• 2:44:52
  Speaker 2: sample that in rap so he sounds he's also I
• 2:44:55
  Speaker 2: know that it was a whispering.
• 2:44:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't like it makes her uncomfortable.
• 2:45:00
  Speaker 2: The man's got time. We've got to say the man
• 2:45:03
  Speaker 2: the delivery is unquestionably well. He's got a lot of
• 2:45:06
  Speaker 2: practice and saying things like that. I wonder if he's
• 2:45:09
  Speaker 2: not still on the road. He can't still be.
• 2:45:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's doing anything. I think he's probably
• 2:45:13
  Speaker 1: in hiding.
• 2:45:14
  Speaker 2: He's like a ninety five year old man.
• 2:45:15
  Speaker 1: He's a ninety five year old man. I think he's
• 2:45:16
  Speaker 1: at least partially blind. Yeah, and obviously a pariah.
• 2:45:20
  Speaker 2: Did you ever watch the last Jimmy Fallon set that
• 2:45:23
  Speaker 2: he did? No, he rides around on.
• 2:45:25
  Speaker 1: His back, on Jimmy Fallon's back. Yeah, okay, Why would
• 2:45:30
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Fallon agree to that?
• 2:45:31
  Speaker 2: I don't remember. I don't know that he did. I mean,
• 2:45:35
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Found's up in about he's having a nice time.
• 2:45:38
  Speaker 2: You know, he's a jovial man. But I think he's
• 2:45:40
  Speaker 2: it's something, yeah, I remember. And then it was like
• 2:45:43
  Speaker 2: weeks law.
• 2:45:44
  Speaker 1: So Jimmy Fallons riding on Bill Cosby's.
• 2:45:46
  Speaker 2: Back, Oh yeah, Yeah's no, he's not heaven.
• 2:45:49
  Speaker 1: That's even weirder because Bill Cosby is really old. I'd
• 2:45:51
  Speaker 1: be like, bro, what if your knees give out?
• 2:45:52
  Speaker 2: Maybe he was saying that he was strong, but I
• 2:45:54
  Speaker 2: think that was just before it came out of Piggyback, right,
• 2:45:57
  Speaker 2: because it was I think it was Hannibal Buris.
• 2:45:58
  Speaker 1: Who this is twenty twenty three.
• 2:46:01
  Speaker 2: No, that's just when they uploaded it.
• 2:46:02
  Speaker 1: It would have to be twenty fourteen. We gotta wrap
• 2:46:05
  Speaker 1: this pet. I love you, buddy, it's great to see
• 2:46:07
  Speaker 1: you back. Thank you tonight. Yeah, just had tonight. Yeah,
• 2:46:11
  Speaker 1: let's fucking go Instagram. What's your handles?
• 2:46:16
  Speaker 2: J D F. McCann, The James Donald Forbes McCann Catamaran Plan,
• 2:46:22
  Speaker 2: Big Podcast, Very small podcast, My man, all.
• 2:46:26
  Speaker 1: Right, have you the thanks? All right, my pleasure, all right,
• 2:46:27
  Speaker 1: bye buddy,