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THE UNITED NATIONS WARNS OF TERRORISM IN THE SAHEL.REALLY? · BLACK HOT FIRE NETWORK SHOW'S

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  Speaker 5: be talking about the United.
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  Speaker 9: Nations, which has wanted terrorism in the Sahel region.
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  Speaker 5: And it's crazy because this comes in after we saw
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  Speaker 5: even with them yesterday.
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  Speaker 9: Wandering about that was the EU.
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  Speaker 5: The E was wanting to learn about the importation and
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  Speaker 5: the explotation of gold. Actually it was about the expectation
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  Speaker 5: of gold resources in the country. So talking about the
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  Speaker 5: risk trying talking about COB in the situation, it's super
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  Speaker 5: super crazy and the double standards all is. But one
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  Speaker 5: thing they never say, of course, is one thing who
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  Speaker 5: really finds this war, So of course.
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  Speaker 9: We're going to be talking about that.
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  Speaker 5: We know who, but we know and we've seen the
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  Speaker 5: Alansa l state is really doing amazing, booking a fast
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  Speaker 5: Sonija and Mali, they're all doing super amazing. But as
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  Speaker 5: we talk about that, we can see that this is
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  Speaker 5: happening because the US and Nigeria are actually, of course
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  Speaker 5: COB cooperating, collaborating together on a counter terrorism fight as
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  Speaker 5: they see how.
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  Speaker 9: They can actually work together.
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  Speaker 5: But much more of the conversation and what we're going
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  Speaker 5: to be talking about as we focused on that, we're
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  Speaker 5: going to be looking at some conversation I had last week,
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  Speaker 5: and I say, this is actually some positive news that
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  Speaker 5: was on riting when I was reporting this about Uganda's
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  Speaker 5: judiciary rejecting the cause or literally looking forward to end
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  Speaker 5: the cause of my lord and all that. And I'll
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  Speaker 5: be reading, of course the previous article that we saw
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  Speaker 5: and now we have of course the Uganda's judiciary which
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  Speaker 5: has rejected this, and talk about the backward mindset and
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  Speaker 5: thinking is this super super crazy. Much more the conversation
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  Speaker 5: coming from Sarah Leon you can see cerirely on has
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  Speaker 5: we're going to be looking at what really happened and
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  Speaker 5: why it was arrested. Much more the conversations as well
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  Speaker 5: coming from Namibia. As we can see, Namibia has officially
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  Speaker 5: ended visa free entry for citizens of the United States
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  Speaker 5: and the United Kingdom and more than partic countries. Because
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  Speaker 5: remember she was very strict and said any country that
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  Speaker 5: is also as saying that Namibia requires a visa, they
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  Speaker 5: shall also require a visa to enter the country. So
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  Speaker 5: this is actually at it for that moment and what
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  Speaker 5: we should have done long time ago. But certainly today's
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  Speaker 5: conversation we're gonna pick it up from a conversation was
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  Speaker 5: supposed to have yesterday, by time didn't allow me to.
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  Speaker 5: And that this is us looking at the history of
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  Speaker 5: one of the biggest sugar companies in this country. One
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  Speaker 5: thing we've seen, of course, when you talk about the
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  Speaker 5: IMF and the wild Bank, or if not even the loans,
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  Speaker 5: our countries end up making stupid deals with the outside
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  Speaker 5: nations that are non African countries, and then later we
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  Speaker 5: have some Indians or Asians or some people just come
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  Speaker 5: and buy these companies in the name of private shareholders
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  Speaker 5: two months ago or literally most of the times I've
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  Speaker 5: talked about this, we've seen so many companies, so many
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  Speaker 5: people have lost jobs because of this kind of bullshit.
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  Speaker 5: And talking about MoMA Sugar is all of the companies
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  Speaker 5: actually at SA actually one of the oldest and one
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  Speaker 5: of the main actually it's the main sugar company we
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  Speaker 5: have in Kenna, because Mumias Sugar is still actually on
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  Speaker 5: the market today. They're still supplying of course, but they're
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  Speaker 5: still bad. You know, there's bad because I feel like
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  Speaker 5: many people shifted to many different type of sugar brands
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  Speaker 5: the moment Mumya's company was taken over by this Indian family,
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  Speaker 5: So we're gotta be looking at that that is alleged.
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  Speaker 5: But of course according to the government, these are alleged,
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  Speaker 5: but that is what happened, so we've gotta be looking at.
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  Speaker 9: The rise and fall. And it's crazy.
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  Speaker 5: As I was keeping this conversation pending yesterdaysh Maney mentioned
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  Speaker 5: something very interesting because we're talking about businesses on the
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  Speaker 5: reaction time, businesses that of course are very much pain
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  Speaker 5: but are considered like you know, they're not real jobs.
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  Speaker 5: And I love the fact that she talked about farming,
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  Speaker 5: which is something I keep on saying about. Our family
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  Speaker 5: is so undermined by so many people. We've discussed seeing
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  Speaker 5: the pros and cons of why this is actually active.
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  Speaker 5: We can't just blame Africans. There goes back to history
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  Speaker 5: or what made Africans or Africa to be what it
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  Speaker 5: is today, where we depend on so many non African
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  Speaker 5: countries for food, the point where we've killed trading amongst
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  Speaker 5: our very own continent. We can say that still trying
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  Speaker 5: to be opened a little bit of course, with the
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  Speaker 5: banning of visas, like you can say countries like Namibia, Rwanda,
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  Speaker 5: Kenya which is still as calm I'm not gonna buy
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  Speaker 5: that shit. And several other African countries, including as Togo,
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  Speaker 5: who have banned this visa requirement that at least isn't
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  Speaker 5: a way of people how they can trade amongst themselves
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  Speaker 5: or with each other literally. And I do believe the
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  Speaker 5: next thing we should do, which I keep on advocating for,
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  Speaker 5: is also scrapping away the passports. I don't believe we
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  Speaker 5: really require passports for all that. The only thing we
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  Speaker 5: need is an ID, you know, and if maybe pro
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  Speaker 5: some documentation to show that you are here and all
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  Speaker 5: that in case of follow up. I mean, we have
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  Speaker 5: our borders already, you know, the fake borders and those
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  Speaker 5: systems that were created there during the colonial system, and.
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  Speaker 9: All those.
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  Speaker 5: Electronic devices they have that they collect our fingerprints, our pictures,
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  Speaker 5: you know, our passport pictures. That should be enough to
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  Speaker 5: show that you know, you entered this country at this
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  Speaker 5: time and you're gonna live at this particular time. You
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  Speaker 5: just leave the detence there and you go. You don't
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  Speaker 5: need to do so much. It's just super super crazy.
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  Speaker 5: But yes, we're gonna be looking at how Mumia sugar
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  Speaker 5: rose and fell and what really happened?
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  Speaker 9: Is it about exploitation.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it's about exploitation, But what led to this
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  Speaker 5: exploitation and corruption case in this particular company, because again
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  Speaker 5: bet it did affect of course, so many people's lives
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  Speaker 5: who are depending on this company or Saint SHMANI said
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  Speaker 5: her father was a sugar distributor. Yeah, she was a
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  Speaker 5: sugar game distributor in this company, and I was like, wow,
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  Speaker 5: this is actually some good, you know, information to see
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  Speaker 5: that I was about to talk with me a sugar
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  Speaker 5: company and totally figure out Actually she mainly comes from
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  Speaker 5: a lineage of the people who used to supply sugar
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  Speaker 5: cane in this company. So it's actually quite really really interesting.
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  Speaker 5: This is one of the companies in Kenya, so stay guided.
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  Speaker 6: As its speak.
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  Speaker 7: MoMA's Sugar Company was producing up to three hundred thousand
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  Speaker 7: tons of sugar annually, contributing over sixty percent of Kenya's
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  Speaker 7: sugar needs. It wasn't just dominating the local market. It
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  Speaker 7: was the largest sugar producer in East Africa.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, in East Africa. I didn't even know it was
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  Speaker 5: the biggest in East Africa. Wow, I really did know
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  Speaker 5: it was the biggest in Africa. That is something else. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I didn't know it was the biggest because Maria Sugar
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  Speaker 5: was really really big personally growing up like it was
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  Speaker 5: such a flex. It was such a flex at some
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  Speaker 5: point because I remember after especially meeting my dad, it
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  Speaker 5: was still a big deal because also they grew up
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  Speaker 5: in sugarcane farming a lot.
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  Speaker 9: So I used to I used to actually want to
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  Speaker 9: go every time.
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  Speaker 5: I used to go to the western part of Kenya,
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  Speaker 5: Cacamega region, because I do believe Mama's sugar is in
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  Speaker 5: Cacamega Region. So I used to want so much if
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  Speaker 5: I could visit this place, like every time. Remember the
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  Speaker 5: first time my dad took me to my grandma's village,
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  Speaker 5: I was like, man, I wish I can just go
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  Speaker 5: and see where Mumia's company is, the Mia Sugar Company is,
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  Speaker 5: and I can experience or see how they process all this.
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  Speaker 5: But actually the processing of sugar is very easy. I've
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  Speaker 5: seen men try to TikTok. I've seen all these videos
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  Speaker 5: on TikTok, and they're very easy.
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  Speaker 11: You know.
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  Speaker 5: Is you just squeeze the sugar can blended, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and then the Jews out the Jewish you dry. You
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  Speaker 5: can put it maybe in an oven, and then when
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  Speaker 5: it dries you have sugar. Just it's just very easy
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  Speaker 5: actually making sugar at home. But yes, let's go back
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  Speaker 5: to this.
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  Speaker 9: From one point eight.
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  Speaker 1: Nineteen people from Ussias.
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  Speaker 9: So you can hear that how how big of unemployment.
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  Speaker 5: Rate it had created if it's rater scale, right, it
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  Speaker 5: created such a large job opportunity to so many families
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  Speaker 5: or many young people, and especially in the western parts
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  Speaker 5: of kenyatunities.
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  Speaker 7: To millions, and brought prosperity to the locals as farmers
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  Speaker 7: greatly benefitted cane farming in the area exactly.
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  Speaker 5: And why to sew bombing, say especially in Kenya, is
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  Speaker 5: because sugar cane till to date is still a very
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  Speaker 5: active considered farming actually, and because yeah, if you go
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  Speaker 5: like especially on sunny, sunny days. I don't know why
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  Speaker 5: ken and slave sugar cane, especially on sunny days.
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  Speaker 9: It's always crazy.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, because I also do take a lot
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  Speaker 5: of sugar cane when it's super sunny, but it's so nice.
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  Speaker 9: Sugar cane is just super nice.
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  Speaker 5: So yes, we do have a lot of active farmers
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  Speaker 5: who participate or participated sugarcane family.
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  Speaker 9: So you can see how before the markets were destroyed.
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  Speaker 5: When you're talking about the market last week and why
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  Speaker 5: many local farmers today struggle, back then it was booming
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  Speaker 5: because number one, you have the company in your country.
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  Speaker 9: You are the supplier and the distributor.
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  Speaker 12: Literally about Milia and Millian Kemberlea.
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  Speaker 7: Today it is a pale shadow of its former self.
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  Speaker 7: In this video, we will explore the history of MoMA's
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  Speaker 7: Sugar's foundation, the political reasons for its establishment, and the
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  Speaker 7: numerous facts that led to its daycline. If you enjoyed
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  Speaker 7: sixty from Kenna. In the late nineteen sixties, the Joe
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  Speaker 7: Okinata government sought to appease the communities in western Kena
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  Speaker 7: who felt marginalized as most development projects were concentrated in
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  Speaker 7: the central regions.
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  Speaker 5: See, so you can say this is a problem that
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  Speaker 5: has been long existing for a very long time, where
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  Speaker 5: we have developments that only happens in certain counties when
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  Speaker 5: other people from different counties feel really left out. Again
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  Speaker 5: going back to tribalism, because you're talking about the era
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  Speaker 5: of Jermo Kenyata.
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  Speaker 9: This man was a Kikuyu and.
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  Speaker 5: We can still see it's crazy because yesterday I was
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  Speaker 5: watching another video of a Kikuyu man who was sen
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  Speaker 5: and I was really pissed off.
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  Speaker 9: I was like, Madam, I had to scron I was
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  Speaker 9: not going to listen to the whole.
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  Speaker 5: Video because it's talking about Oh, you know, Kikyu's were
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  Speaker 5: the only people who have been able to create unity
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  Speaker 5: in this country. The rest of the tribes, like the lawyers,
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  Speaker 5: the lures, they're so divided. I'm like, and again it
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  Speaker 5: goes back. Every time we're talking about the issue of
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  Speaker 5: tribalism in Africa, it's some old generation negros. I swear
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  Speaker 5: because the new generation is not talking about the bush.
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  Speaker 5: I don't even know what you're telling them. What do
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  Speaker 5: you mean, I'm aki cool you How is it helping me?
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  Speaker 5: How is that supposed to be. How is it bringing
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  Speaker 5: food to my table as you being lou or me
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  Speaker 5: being concerned about you being louy or lujah kissi kal engine?
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  Speaker 5: How does that bring food to my table? You're buying
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  Speaker 5: the same price of uh, you know, cooking oil, the
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  Speaker 5: same way I'm buying the same price of cooking oil.
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  Speaker 5: If you're going to the to buy sugar, you're not
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  Speaker 5: gonna benefit only because your aqui cool. I'm gonna buy
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  Speaker 5: sugar the same way, the same price you're buying. Unless
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  Speaker 5: you have some engine which is giving you guys for free,
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  Speaker 5: then you can brag about it, and which is nothing
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  Speaker 5: to brug about, because what are you being fed? You know,
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  Speaker 5: what are you really being fed for you to come
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  Speaker 5: brag to me about some engine you're feeding you? So
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  Speaker 5: it's crazy man.
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  Speaker 6: To address this, Embo.
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  Speaker 7: The government decided to find a cash crop for Western
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  Speaker 7: Kenya and asked Boca McConnell to undertake a pilot skin
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  Speaker 7: to establish the viability of this sugar project. By nineteen
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  Speaker 7: seventy one, Muma's Sugar Company was established, with the government
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  Speaker 7: holding a seventy one percent stake. Other shareholders included Commonwealth
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  Speaker 7: Development Corporation seventeen percent, so we can see.
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  Speaker 5: Now where the red flag started. So we own seventy
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: one percent or shares of the company. But of course,
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: in every development of a country, and especially something that
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: is supposed to be benefiting a country or a specific area,
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: because generally you can see this was the biggest sugar
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: company in East Africa East Africa, so you can imagine
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to maybe assume it was not just only
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: supplying to Kenyans of course the country itself, but supplying
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: to Uganda, Tanzania and maybe Rwanda if it extended further
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: than that, because I understand also East Africa. The number
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: of East African countries now we can see is not
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: what we had back then. Some of the some of
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: the people have just added themselves within the course of
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: the years, you know, countries like so Mary, we've seen
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: them joining the East African community and a few I've
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: joined the East African community, but majorly people knew to
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: comprise of only Kenya, DRC, Rwanda, Uganda and Tanzania five
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: so others have been I've just been I've added themselves
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: or been added. So yes, I'm trying to imagine Number
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: one how large they us to supply. I think I'm
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: gonna have to check on that as we see. But
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: the light flag started from the world go. So we
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: have the Commonwealth Development Corporation which also held or had
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: as seventeen percent sp of the company.
• 20:03
  Speaker 9: And it's always some boat. That's why they start.
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: That's why I keep on questioning most of these developments,
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: like the dangotted this whole dangotted thing.
• 20:15
  Speaker 9: We can see these good bank people. We know the
• 20:17
  Speaker 9: good bank people are. It's good.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: It's one major amazing project happening in East Africa. Should
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: have been happened a long time ago in even every country.
• 20:29
  Speaker 9: But who is really funding this?
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: And looking at the future, are we still gonna be
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: able to be in control of this or are we
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: gonna be having the good bank people now coming to
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: tell us you can no longer, you can no longer.
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: So it's it's crazy. So you can see the red
• 20:48
  Speaker 9: flux from the word go.
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: Kenn At Commercial Finance five percent, Est Affrica Development Bank
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: three percent and Booker four percent. However, the foundation of
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: Momeir's was mared by conflicts of interests and questionable decisions.
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: For example, the feasibility study was conducted by a subsidiary
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: of the company that designed the factory, which was also
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: a subsidiary of Boker. Booker later secured a Thatiam management
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: contract for the company in nineteen seventy three. Under the
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: Booker management contract with Momeir's Sugar Company, they were responsible
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: for managing an initial eight thousand acre estate and the
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: outgrowers twenty thousand acres within a twelve kilometer radius of
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: the factory. This contract also included overseeing the operations of
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: the factory, built at a cost of three hundred and
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: fifteen million shillings. Boker's role was to manage both the
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: factory and the estate. Additionally, they also established Booker Academy,
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: contributing five to the community. Under the leadership of Moaiki Baki,
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: the Treasury advocated for the formation of an outgrows organization
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: to act as a buffer between farmers and MoMA's Sugar Company.
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: This led to the establishment of Momir's Outgrowers Company MARCO
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: in nineteen seventy five. MARCO assumed the responsibility of providing
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: credit to all contracted outgrowers, representing their interests with Momir's
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: Sugar Company, the government and any other external bodies and
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: negotiating on behalf of the over seventy seven thousand farmers,
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: many of who were literate in collaboration with Momeir's Sugar,
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: Marco man because.
• 22:47
  Speaker 9: They were I literate.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: Because again, this is the same generation today, like I'm saying,
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: is so ready to talk about repolism and all that.
• 22:56
  Speaker 9: That is the same generation.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: This is the same generation that grew up without access
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: of education. They couldn't read or write.
• 23:04
  Speaker 9: This is the same generation. Talking Swahili was very difficult,
• 23:08
  Speaker 9: and especially in the worst and I'm even capping in
• 23:10
  Speaker 9: the wasn't parts of Kenya.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: There's so many literate people, so many to all aspects
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: of development.
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: This included land surveys, plowing, harrowing, farrowing, providing seed, king
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: and fatializers, as well as harvesting and transportation. These services
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: were extended to the farmers are soft loans, which were
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: recovered from the proceeds after the king was harvested.
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: Now the problem, another problem.
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: Marco worked to ensure mutual benefits for farmers and shareholders.
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: By the nineteen nineties, private players like the Swan Singh Right.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: Private gear Comps and Indiana. This is an Internet, an Araba,
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: you know, one of the two.
• 23:56
  Speaker 9: They all the same.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: They just looked the same, you know, with this type
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: of hard looks like an an alb in the comments
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: not ab an Indian, but I know the issue was
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: an Indian, you.
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: Know of West Sugar Company already entered.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: The mark Cabras. Yeah, so this is the one personally
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: I use, which is so crazy. I use this sugar
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: than the mo MIAs one because there is also the color,
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: the color of this There's something about the color of
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: the sugar.
• 24:27
  Speaker 13: You know.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: I like Cabras more than I use mo MIAs. But
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: once a while, I'd go for Cabras every time. But
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: if Cabras is not there, I'm going to choose Mamas.
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: Of course, get and we're gaining momentum, often operating more
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: efficiently than MIAs. This start contrast to raise suspicions of
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: corruption and mismanagement within the company. However, that was nothing
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: compared to what was going to happen later. In two
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: thousand and one, the government offloated fifty percent of its
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: holdings in Mumeir's Sugar and retained twenty percent as the
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: company went public and was listed in the NSC. The
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: farmers retained thirty percent of the company. In two thousand
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: and three, the Booker management contract with Mumeyas ended and
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: they advertised for the position of managing director. The recruitment
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: was done by Price Waterhouse Coopers and they picked Alain
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: Skidero as.
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: The new boss.
• 25:32
  Speaker 9: Wow this guy Yeah.
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: During Kidero's Tenuremma's Sugar Company aimed to gain greater control
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: over its supply chain and pricing mechanisms. Some sources suggest
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: that political interests influenced this decision, intending to weaken the
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: collective bargaining power of the farmers. After Mumias was privatized,
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: farmers devised the scheme where each farmer would contribute a
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: percentage of their gross harvest into an account specifically set
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: up for purchasing Momeir's Sugar Company shares. This collective effort
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: aimed to give farmers a unified voice or the board
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: of directors through their representation under mo MIAs of Brower's
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: company Marco. However, when it came time to purchase the shares,
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: it is alleged that Kidero and other parties using the
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: courts insisted that farmers by the shares individually.
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: You really managing direct work at the whole.
• 26:36
  Speaker 14: I've got greater and comfortable and a prayer, your company,
• 26:39
  Speaker 14: your more.
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: What's about with you?
• 26:42
  Speaker 14: Womzia Manina Brinauua.
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: This move significantly diluted their collective power. As a result,
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: instead of having a unified voice through Marco, each farmer
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: was issued individual shares. This situation left many farmers vulnerable
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: to exploitation. Cornmen approached farmers directly, misleading them about the
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: value of their shares and convincing them to sell at
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: a fraction of their actual worth.
• 27:13
  Speaker 9: Time people get.
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: Agitated them at all them this is okay, there's a
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: piece of paper, you know, I need it.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: And of course what those people, of course, the politicians,
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: the politicians, because you're talking about the corn men, who
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: are the convents of this country, the same politicians we have.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: And of course you're talking about illiterate, a group of
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: illitate people who cannot read and write here and then
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: you're giving them what. Of course, I'm gonna come back
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: to understanding this boy literate. You know, hey, this is
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: some pieces of papers. Give it to me, you know,
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: and just sign it off.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: So some people, they are clever, but in my reader
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: are stupid. They will tell you this is three thousand shares.
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: Let me give you two thousands. Then got the stock
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: exchange itself for thirty thousand. That is why it's all
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: about right.
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: Consequently, many farmers lost their shares to this cornmen as
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: they did not fully understand the value of their holdings
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: or how the stock market works. Initially, Marco was responsible
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: for negotiating better tannage prices and lower input costs for farmers.
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: By cutting off this link, Muma's Sugar Company could lower
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: the price per tannage without consultation and change higher rates
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: for inputs. By two thousand and nine, Marco was completely
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: paralyzed and had stopped operations.
• 28:37
  Speaker 15: Actually, the management of Mumya's Sugar Company used some of
• 28:40
  Speaker 15: the politicians to ensure that the motto is picked out
• 28:44
  Speaker 15: and that's what.
• 28:45
  Speaker 9: It is the politicians.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: These the rising and falling off our public owned, public
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: owned companies is the politicians. It is the same people.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: It is the same people. And cornman is a good
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: term to use on them because nab they are conmen. Understand,
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: these are the same people calling people large amounts of
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: money by building some fake agent companies in the name
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: of job opportunities abroad, you pay half a million Kenyan
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: shillings which you can start a business. See how stupid
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: are you meant to for you to go work abroad?
• 29:30
  Speaker 9: And then you're being light. You can eat that money.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: You're gonna you're gonna have it back within till Man's
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: So if you stay there, yere imagine how much you
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: can make.
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: Empty promises, empty promises. There's a time in Swili. Is
• 29:47
  Speaker 9: this your English?
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: You say empty debors make the loudest noise, or you
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: can see the empty vessels make the loudest no But
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: as we say debors, those are the politicians.
• 30:00
  Speaker 9: They lie. All they do is lie.
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: These people are professional liars paid. It's like an actor,
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: an act. Everything they do is not what they do
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: in their lives, their real life. A character they're playing
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: in a certain movie. It's not the same character they're
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: playing when they go back to their houses. You know,
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: in this character you have a different name, so you're
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: gonna act like that name how.
• 30:27
  Speaker 9: The script is written. So those are the politicians. They lie.
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: Really started going south for the farmers without Marco to
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: secure their interest, they began losing their deals when sugarcane
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: loaded tractors arrived at the way bridge. Here rogue company
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: employees devised and executed schemes to defraud the farmers. Some
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: of the terms were transferred from the farmer's accounts to
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: those created by these rogue employees.
• 30:59
  Speaker 15: Some of them could it develop fields on the computer,
• 31:04
  Speaker 15: planned sugar can on computer and harvest from computer.
• 31:09
  Speaker 9: Imagine where actually that ifirm was then existing?
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Exactly?
• 31:14
  Speaker 9: I mean?
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: And that has always been the pattern of so many,
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: so many scandals in Kenyada, has always been the pattern,
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: non existing project. But yet there's money being put into
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: this an existing project.
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: It's crazy.
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: The farmer's statements reflected less than the actual amount supplied.
• 31:33
  Speaker 12: Have you talk about if you are turning kamakumi, you
• 31:37
  Speaker 12: can pick up an important really tattoo in a kuaia
• 31:43
  Speaker 12: and a pat.
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: Essentially, the rogue employees added themselves to the list of
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: farmers and defrauded the actual farmers of millions of shillings.
• 31:54
  Speaker 12: Ply that able to access the computer makes them change,
• 31:58
  Speaker 12: you know, or add themselves or their name to the
• 32:01
  Speaker 12: list of farmers as the board.
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: Did you ever look into the issue?
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: No, I do not.
• 32:08
  Speaker 9: To my mind, we kind not to your mind. No,
• 32:11
  Speaker 9: it's not. No, it's not not to your mind. You
• 32:14
  Speaker 9: are part of it.
• 32:16
  Speaker 12: Over over overlooked certain tith that we had that we
• 32:20
  Speaker 12: could have bitten, you know, the dog that was disturbing
• 32:25
  Speaker 12: the industry.
• 32:26
  Speaker 9: So you do the thing that you're pointed to some
• 32:29
  Speaker 9: elementrical blas.
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: Absolutely, that's what I'm pointing out on handsight. I think
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: we could have done more.
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: This situation led to more farmers abandoning kine farming, significantly
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: reducing the production in mos Why spend eighteen months taking
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: care of kane that was seemingly unprofitable.
• 32:48
  Speaker 14: So if you take two years and you're paid a
• 32:51
  Speaker 14: negative or not paid for another one year, then your
• 32:55
  Speaker 14: life stance.
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: Near Mashanga.
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: By twelve, when Kidero left Mumeir's Sugar to pursue politics,
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: there was a serious shortage of kine and the diffuser
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: often lay idle. Out Of the over sixty five thousand
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: farmers contracted to Mumeir's Sugar when Kibero took over, less
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: than fifty percent remained by twenty twelve. According to Kidero,
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: he did a good job at Roma's, making profits in
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: all his years there, but at what cost?
• 33:32
  Speaker 16: Over the years that I was there, we made cumulative
• 33:36
  Speaker 16: profits of fifteen billions. Sales grew from six billion to
• 33:43
  Speaker 16: fifteen billion I made. We made profits every year we
• 33:49
  Speaker 16: paid farmers.
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: The farmers who were massively taken advantage of bearing the
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: branch of the mismanagement at Mumeir's Sugar Company exactly. Payments
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: to the farmers were increasingly delayed, sometimes for months, and
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: when they did arrive, there was significantly less than what
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: was owed due to various deductions.
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: This is a sudgment from a contracted farmer for Momeas
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: Sugar Company. From a gross of.
• 34:15
  Speaker 11: Five hundred and seventy five thousand, one hundred and seventeen shillings,
• 34:19
  Speaker 11: the farmer was to receive a net pay of only
• 34:22
  Speaker 11: sixty six thousand, five hundred and seventy five shillings.
• 34:26
  Speaker 12: Her cross payment is one six sixty six, but harnate
• 34:31
  Speaker 12: is seven eight hundred.
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: The farmers faced relentless challenges as the local management of
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: Momeir's Sugar Company completely lost sight of its original objectives.
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: These objectives included providing a source of cash income for farmers,
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: creating job opportunities in an area that lacked major industrial
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: undertakings and producing over dependence on sugar, importation.
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: Of sugar reputation.
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: Peter Kebbati, who replaced Kidero, was involved in a scandal
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: where cheap some standard sugar was important illegally from Canana
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: in Sudan.
• 35:12
  Speaker 9: This sugar kill a company then you start? This is
• 35:16
  Speaker 9: just crazy.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: You kill a company for you to start depending on
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: other people who are getting now genetically modific I don't know.
• 35:26
  Speaker 9: This processed sugars. This is this is man.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: These puppets are crazy. I'm telling you, these puppets are crazy.
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: These puppets are super crazy. Why would I kill something
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: that is already making my work easier here and start
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: depending on people who I'm gonna have to pay more.
• 35:52
  Speaker 9: For them to give me something I already have here.
• 35:57
  Speaker 9: You have the farmers, you have the car company. What
• 36:02
  Speaker 9: else do you need? And not just you know even
• 36:05
  Speaker 9: you are a large distributor in many Let me see.
• 36:10
  Speaker 9: Let's see. Let's see Amelia which which countries used to
• 36:17
  Speaker 9: receive sugar from Mona's company. Let's see very quickly.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: So according to Google, is that at its peak, Mulas
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: Sugar Company primarily served the domestic market but also exported
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: bulk sugar to Tanzania and Uganda and other neighboring nations
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: in East Africa. Additionally, the company exported thousands of metric
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: tons annually to the United Kingdom and the European markets
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: under the CPA EU trade agreements.
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: Wow as a product of Muma's Sugar company parked and
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: hold to the market, cutting off the farmer entirely.
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: Imagine imagine, imagine, imagine, and we keep on wondering why
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: our markets will never grow? See the problem? See the problem? Well,
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: you can actually make it so easy here we want
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: we have people want to make it so complicated, and
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: then you're gonna have a bunch of white people of course,
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: saying Africa cannot manage itself because of the people we
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: have on the front who are literally leading a country.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: Africa cannot govern itself. And the worst thing is that
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: we're all thrown in the same basket just because of
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: some more some some people cannot critically think and use
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: their brains and saying no to this corrupt system. No,
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: but because want to pocket your billions by doing what
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: shouldn't work for a country to make the white man happy,
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: then you go ahead with it.
• 37:59
  Speaker 9: This is just so crazy.
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: This is catn that this has been going on for
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: at least two years.
• 38:06
  Speaker 9: Why even super Board itself allow the sugar to import.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: Sugar exactly exactly a very important question. How did we
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: get there from producing, I mean from from from literally
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: you are producing to you important, I say, it's crazy.
• 38:31
  Speaker 17: The same time the manufacturers imagine plause, we can't be
• 38:34
  Speaker 17: able to understand that.
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: I realized that they were trying to marry and there's
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: and let a loop or we've been making more money.
• 38:42
  Speaker 14: They are selling of the can of sugar from from
• 38:46
  Speaker 14: from from from from mylands wanted the selling from Roco market.
• 38:51
  Speaker 14: So the biggest copy of the current problem which the
• 38:54
  Speaker 14: super secar is currently ficing.
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: It is Mona. Super An investigation was underway which led
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: to the KPMG for forensic reports. In twenty fourteen, KPMG
• 39:07
  Speaker 7: conducted of forensic audit or more Maya's sugar company, revealing
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: extensive mismanagement and potential corruption. During Kdero's tenure, contracts were
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: awarded to unregistered companies and tenders who were approved despite
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: being submitted after deadline. Guidero also ignored internal audital recommendations,
• 39:28
  Speaker 7: leading to significant financial mismanagement, the.
• 39:31
  Speaker 18: Implementation of an income generating project that left a big
• 39:35
  Speaker 18: hole in the company's finances, including building a perimeter hall,
• 39:40
  Speaker 18: summacking all the roads within the company, the laws making
• 39:43
  Speaker 18: power generation and water portaling plant.
• 39:46
  Speaker 14: On your administration of block and band each other and
• 39:49
  Speaker 14: as to our national and construction authority, and a semi
• 39:53
  Speaker 14: you and humor is not habitable at ten am office,
• 39:59
  Speaker 14: mana value and Jannani you place as a man and
• 40:03
  Speaker 14: a magazine pot.
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: Peter Kibati was accused of opening an undisclosed bank account
• 40:10
  Speaker 7: in Dubai for sugar sales and engaging in an authorized
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: procurement practices. Other individuals were also implicated. The report estimated
• 40:23
  Speaker 7: that these issues cost the company billions of kendisillings. The
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: findings highlighted systemic corruption, transforming public perception of MoMA's Sugar
• 40:33
  Speaker 7: Company from a national asset to a case study of
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: corporate mismanagement. MoMA's town, once vibrant and bastling, faced severe
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: daycline as MoMA's Sugar Company struggled, shops closed, unemployment rules
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: and the population dwindled as people left in search of
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: better opportunities.
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: Farmers heavily reliant sugar cane production. What hits the hardest.
• 41:03
  Speaker 7: Internal management played a significant role in the company's downfall.
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: That external factors also contributed. Of course, the canon sugar
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: market was flooded with cheap inputs, often through dubious means.
• 41:20
  Speaker 19: Already, yeah, one of the more because we cannot have
• 41:32
  Speaker 19: illegal sugar coming into this country and destroying the livelihood
• 41:35
  Speaker 19: of us.
• 41:36
  Speaker 9: They didn't change our guardian thing. They didn't.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: If I'm to do my research, actually, if I go
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: to the supermarket right now and tell you how rely
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: sugar companies we have in the store, not personally.
• 41:49
  Speaker 9: I was watching ability today of a Lili was saying
• 41:51
  Speaker 9: she doesn't have a specific type of oil she uses.
• 41:54
  Speaker 19: Man.
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: I am heavily owner using us just one specific brand
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: of cooking oil. I'm not the type to jump from
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: this to this to this. No, even gariflower, I have
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: a certain brand I use. Even spaghetti, there's a brand
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: I eat. Even rice, there's just a brand. I don't
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: go picking this anything because.
• 42:17
  Speaker 9: Oh it's rice. Oh okay, cool, it's just rice. No,
• 42:20
  Speaker 9: it's not. No, we had plastic rice here, we had
• 42:24
  Speaker 9: plastic fish in this country.
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: These people have not stopped the importation of nothing that
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: is harmful to people's health if they really did care.
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: We have a long way of so many things to
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: track back that you should have prevented but didn't talk
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: about the COVID nineteen. I'm not gonna get to so
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: many details. Okay, let's talk about polio. Okay, let's not long.
• 42:45
  Speaker 9: We not get into so many details.
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: How many things that are harmful to Afrikaans that these
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: puppets have not stopped.
• 42:52
  Speaker 9: So please uruking at her. You might be the most loved, but.
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: You really one thing you knew to do is after
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: handle corruption, but it was very much active.
• 43:04
  Speaker 9: It's crazy man.
• 43:05
  Speaker 7: As the company neared collapse, the Kennon government intervened with bailouts,
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: attempting to revive the once proud symbol of the nation's
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: sugar industry. In twenty fifteen, President of Rokenyata authorized the
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: release of one billion shillings to jumpstart MoMA's Sugar company.
• 43:25
  Speaker 7: This was followed by further capital injections, with bailoads reaching
• 43:30
  Speaker 7: more than three point five billion shillings by twenty eighteen.
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: Errol Johnson was appointed as the new managing director.
• 43:38
  Speaker 11: Wow.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: A whole white person, a whole white man in charge
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: of a company in Kenya?
• 43:45
  Speaker 9: Are we joking? Am I really surprised?
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Hell?
• 43:49
  Speaker 9: No, but a whole white man as a manager in.
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: Twenty fifteen, tasked with reviving the company. Having served on
• 43:58
  Speaker 7: the Mocal board, he explained the challenges of running Amere's
• 44:02
  Speaker 7: Sugar without a body representing farmers the way Morco used to.
• 44:08
  Speaker 20: But then in two thousand and nine Moco collapsed.
• 44:11
  Speaker 21: I was a member of the board of Mocho. I
• 44:14
  Speaker 21: sat on the board for two and a half years.
• 44:17
  Speaker 21: What it had always had his problems, It worked and
• 44:20
  Speaker 21: it was a great way of communicating to the farmers.
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: For me.
• 44:25
  Speaker 21: It was easy to pick up the phone and call
• 44:27
  Speaker 21: the German of Mocha or call the gm AMCA and
• 44:30
  Speaker 21: saying could come and have a meeting.
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: We've got a problem.
• 44:32
  Speaker 21: Heither Now when I have a problem somewhere sixty kilometers away,
• 44:37
  Speaker 21: who do I call?
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: There's no central body representing the farmers.
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: Johnson was running through point four million tennis shillings per month?
• 44:45
  Speaker 9: What yeah? Three point wards, Amanda, Amanda?
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: When I grew up three terms unsuccessfully before eventually fling
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: the Not only did he leave the trouble company, but
• 45:04
  Speaker 7: he also left the country entirely after just two years
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: at the Helm, citing the government's failure to provide the
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: timely financial assistance.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Every government happens.
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: To bring even one pillion here now.
• 45:21
  Speaker 12: My board of directors will be sitting three times in
• 45:23
  Speaker 12: a mass and they pay it the other sixty thousand
• 45:28
  Speaker 12: every city.
• 45:30
  Speaker 7: Despite the massive infusion of capital, the funds seemed to
• 45:34
  Speaker 7: vanish into a black hole of debt and mismanagement. There
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: was no significant improvement in the company's financial position or operations.
• 45:44
  Speaker 7: The bailoads, intended as a lifeline, appeared to merely delay
• 45:49
  Speaker 7: the inevitable. After years of struggle and decline, more, Mayer's
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: Sugar Company reached its breaking point. In September twenty nineteen,
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: the company was placed under receivership by ken A commercial
• 46:05
  Speaker 7: bank after failing to pay its debts. Pvr Rau was
• 46:09
  Speaker 7: appointed the receiver manager. However, the High Court blocked the
• 46:14
  Speaker 7: bank from auctioning the company's assets, a last beach effort
• 46:19
  Speaker 7: to protect the assets and potentially revive operations the case
• 46:25
  Speaker 7: the management sold. The only viable route for the recovery
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: of Momeir's Sugar Company was to allow a private entity
• 46:32
  Speaker 7: to inject capital and manage the company for a few
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: years until it could pay off its debts, with the
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: successful bider acquiring the factory, the nucleus estate, and the
• 46:43
  Speaker 7: responsibility of thousands of frustrated farmers. Bids came in, and
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: when the bider's financial proposals were disclosed, the receiver made
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: a major mistake and hard of imbiding history, he picked
• 46:59
  Speaker 7: the lowest bid. This decision sparked a legal battle between
• 47:05
  Speaker 7: billionaire brothers, the swanseeing Rye of West Kennesugar and subject
• 47:10
  Speaker 7: Rye of the Sarie group from Uganda. Rao justified rejecting
• 47:16
  Speaker 7: the higher bid by citing the risk of West Cannon
• 47:19
  Speaker 7: dominating more than forty percent of Kenyon's Schevikan market, potentially
• 47:24
  Speaker 7: creating a monopoly. However, West Kenyon's lawyers argued that only
• 47:30
  Speaker 7: the competition Authority had the authority to decide on monopolies,
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: not Rao.
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: West Kennon's bid.
• 47:39
  Speaker 7: Was significantly higher, as they were offering around thirty billion
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: Kenny shillings over twenty years, compared to Sourvise five billion
• 47:48
  Speaker 7: over the same period. It is alleged that Rau's decision
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: was influenced by politicians who cared more about which company
• 47:58
  Speaker 7: would pay them for the tenor the stead of prioritizing
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: which company it was actually good for the revival of issue.
• 48:06
  Speaker 22: And I want to tell you the problem with tell
• 48:11
  Speaker 22: I'm case and I told the people. Can you imagine
• 48:15
  Speaker 22: I want a pet that will pull you in your person?
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Exactly?
• 48:22
  Speaker 9: I mean, that's always the thing.
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: These politicians don't care about this country. It's always the pride,
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: the good bad people. Who's going who's gonna give me
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: the money? You know, how much can I steal from here?
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna have to speaker in the employment the farmers,
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: they don't care. They don't care. So there's just loved vessels,
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: empty dabees making the loudest noise.
• 48:50
  Speaker 7: Following public outscry and legal challenges, the case was brought
• 48:54
  Speaker 7: before Justice Alfred ma Bear. In a decision my Bear
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: nullified as lease and removed RAO from overseeing Momirs. Ma
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: Bear's ruling emphasized that public interests required the revival of
• 49:09
  Speaker 7: Omeirs and that the leasing process must ensure the company's
• 49:14
  Speaker 7: long term survival for the benefit of the region's farmers
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: and community.
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: During this period.
• 49:22
  Speaker 7: In his now infamous speech, Routo made the Mambo Matta
• 49:25
  Speaker 7: to declaration Una.
• 49:29
  Speaker 23: In apples nawaw what Oka Nirvana a Mama mahabi.
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: Amaguni.
• 49:50
  Speaker 7: Around this time the Swamp Singhrai, who had the potential
• 49:54
  Speaker 7: to save Roumas due to his proven experience with cabras
• 49:58
  Speaker 7: as the oldest private sugar since the eighties, he ended
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: up being abducted.
• 50:04
  Speaker 24: This shows that on twenty fifth of August twenty twenty three,
• 50:07
  Speaker 24: at exactly five forty two, on the twenty second second,
• 50:11
  Speaker 24: a land crusaca which we have confirmed is currently at
• 50:14
  Speaker 24: the Kilimani Police station, stopped at Wood Avenue junction and
• 50:19
  Speaker 24: avocating follows between two other cars and within second Eca
• 50:23
  Speaker 24: is seen blocking the vehicle boarded by Raye and two
• 50:27
  Speaker 24: men come out.
• 50:29
  Speaker 6: In this video. Out of the two men, one was
• 50:32
  Speaker 6: seen to be armed with a gun.
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: Upon his release, he eventually dropped the case and his
• 50:38
  Speaker 7: pursuit of Momir's Sugar. MoMA's Sugar Company resumed operations on
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: December one, twenty twenty three, after four years of inactivity,
• 50:51
  Speaker 7: starting to receive sugar came from farmers and releasing sugar
• 50:54
  Speaker 7: to the market.
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: In twenty twenty four. I hate to be the profit
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: of do but live down.
• 51:01
  Speaker 7: I feel like MoMA's Sugar Company will just fail again
• 51:05
  Speaker 7: and become politicized for the twenty twenty seven general elections.
• 51:10
  Speaker 6: Why do I think so? Well?
• 51:12
  Speaker 7: Remember when I mentioned earlier that the founding of Momir's
• 51:16
  Speaker 7: Sugar Company had conflicts of interests and questionable decisions, citing
• 51:21
  Speaker 7: how Booker approved the feasibility only because they were going
• 51:24
  Speaker 7: to get the tender to manage mo MIA's and build
• 51:28
  Speaker 7: a factory. Turns out sugar isn't that feasible in small chambers,
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: but they ignored this as their own interest was the priority.
• 51:39
  Speaker 7: In a the classified letter from nineteen seventy one, sugar
• 51:43
  Speaker 7: farming consultant Busy Jaws warned about the feasibility of MoMA's.
• 51:49
  Speaker 7: He pointed out that small hold plots couldn't benefit from
• 51:53
  Speaker 7: economies of scale. They tried to mimic plantations, but small
• 51:58
  Speaker 7: hold farms are fundamental harder to profit from. This is why,
• 52:03
  Speaker 7: aside from corruption and plander, public sugar millers have all struggled.
• 52:09
  Speaker 7: Even top sugar game companies like West Sugar of Cabras
• 52:12
  Speaker 7: supporting over sixty thousand farmers still have to subsidize their
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: sugar production with imputs because Kenya's way of sugar in
• 52:21
  Speaker 7: production is it as profitable compared to other places with
• 52:26
  Speaker 7: significantly larger plantations. Kin mostly thrives when grown in large
• 52:32
  Speaker 7: plantations that are strictly controlled to fully benefit from the
• 52:37
  Speaker 7: economies of scale. Expecting thousands of farmers to run their
• 52:41
  Speaker 7: individual farms at the required standard has been difficult for
• 52:45
  Speaker 7: all and privately owned sugar millers in Kenya. As Ones
• 52:49
  Speaker 7: stated in the declassified latter, the outgrower is an individual.
• 52:54
  Speaker 7: He can't be hired and fired even if it were
• 52:57
  Speaker 7: politically acceptable to do so, which it is not. And
• 53:02
  Speaker 7: yet the collective fortunes of the entire body of what
• 53:05
  Speaker 7: growers and the mailing company itself depend absolutely on the
• 53:10
  Speaker 7: willingness and ability of each and every grower share.
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so there is the rise and fall of Mumia's company.
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: This is just crazy total theft. That is what you
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: can see from this story. Total theft, total theft. It
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: is developed because I understand that people demanded some development
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: in their country, claiming that there is favorism where other
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: countries are developing that and theirs are not so because
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: Mumias are the western part of Kenya to be specific,
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: these active planting of you know, sugar cane, which is
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: considered the cash crop there.
• 53:55
  Speaker 9: Uru and the Commonwealth.
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: The development came and decided to find the whole project.
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: But we can see having all this again puppets. People
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: are so greedy. They came and completely told down their company,
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: destrain literally the local farmers' lives.
• 54:19
  Speaker 9: This is just so crazy.
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: I don't understand the back of thinking of these people.
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: It's just alway so crazy. It's just super crazy.
• 54:28
  Speaker 9: It is so crazy. Cabras is still very.
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: Much active of course in Kenya, is still very much active,
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: but again who is really benefiting And like you can see,
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: the local farmers literally were completely thrown out.
• 54:44
  Speaker 9: This is just super super crazy. And this is a
• 54:47
  Speaker 9: popuy and paste.
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: I believe if you're to do so many histories like
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: this of so many companies in different African countries, from
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: Kenya to Tanzania, probably and especially right now Vinsanya, I better,
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: a lot is gonna collapse. But yeah from Kenya, let
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: me use your gandas still quite safe safe Kenya, you Ganda.
• 55:09
  Speaker 9: I bet Nigeria, especially in Nigeria.
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: If you go to so many countries it's a copy
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: and paste. Look at South Africa. We just saw the
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: history of South Africa two three weeks ago. How as
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: the match is of course, this is because white people
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: are there still, and then having puppets coming in from
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: a first world looking like country to a completely thad
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: world country. It's just super super crazy. It's crazy, and
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: it doesn't stop. It doesn't stop, it continues as long
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: as we're still tied, of course, to these organizations that
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: are found in aspect money.
• 55:46
  Speaker 9: This is a this is always gonna be the pattern.
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: You get yourself in debt, you maybe come up with
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: a really clear good project that can make your country
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: develop economically, grow itself actually, and.
• 55:59
  Speaker 9: Then you have some white people see what you're doing,
• 56:02
  Speaker 9: the like huh uh huh uh huh. Yeah, they come
• 56:08
  Speaker 9: light to you. You give them some shares.
• 56:12
  Speaker 11: You know.
• 56:14
  Speaker 9: It's just crazy, it's crazy, It is so so crazy.
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: But that is the history of the rise and fall
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: of Muma's Sugar Company. For those maybe we are just
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: draining in, you might have to literally maybe rewatch their
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: show at that particular segment. It is explaining the rise
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: and fall of one of our biggest sugar company in
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: East Africa that was back then before.
• 56:42
  Speaker 9: It collapsed, and how it really collapsed.
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: I do what you enjoyed that particular segment there, But
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: moving on to other conversations, we have some more information
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: and I do believe this is where again maybe Africa
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: leads to I do love We'll be a president, how
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: she's moving and of course looking at the alert scales
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: state how they've been moving on the move of tit
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: for tat type of move because.
• 57:08
  Speaker 9: That history, I'd say I even put it.
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: I'll not put it in a very understandable way, a
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: very understandable way. But yes, we have no Amibia, which
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: has officially ended Lisa free entry for citizens of the
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: United States, the United Kingdom and more than thirty other
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: countries now Alia this year. She said that any country
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: that is going to be asking Namibians for visa, whether
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: African America or European, they are going to be facing
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: the same energy.
• 57:41
  Speaker 9: It's a tit for tat and I do love it.
• 57:44
  Speaker 9: I do love actually this because.
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: I've been saying we should be doing this for the
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: longest time. We should have been doing this for the
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: longest time, because we've seen now today African countries suffering
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: because of some bullshit all some agreements you have with
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: some countries in the name of collaboration corporation, so you
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: can't make some decisions.
• 58:06
  Speaker 9: It's just super crazy. But I do love this move.
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: This is actually the energy we do require and we
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: can see this energy the same way when it comes
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: to the Alliance heal state. Currently, I don't know what
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: she's waiting for to doin the Aliance Health State, but
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: I'll give agrees on this one. Namibia has officially entered
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: the visa free entry for citizens of the United States,
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: the United Kingdom and Canada.
• 58:26
  Speaker 9: That is including as of Canada, Germany.
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: France, and more than thirty other countries, marking a significant
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: shift in the country's immigration policy. The new visa requirements
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: came into effect as part of Namibia's.
• 58:38
  Speaker 9: Receive Reciprocity Hey.
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: Receive Procity Yeah policy, a principle that requires countries to
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: often Amlibian citizens the same travel privileges.
• 58:55
  Speaker 9: They receive.
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: The government officials say that the decision is aimed at
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: promoting fairness in international travel after years of Namibian space
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: in visa restrictions when visiting many Western nations, and according
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: to the Namibian government as well. Nationals from countries that
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: require visa from Namibians. Passport holders will now also need
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: visa before entering Namibia.
• 59:20
  Speaker 9: Authorities say that the policy is not.
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: Intended to discourage tourism, but to establish equal treatment between nations.
• 59:28
  Speaker 9: Visitors affected by the new.
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: Rules can apply for a visa online through Namibia's Electronic
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: Visa Understand, this is the same tactic using Kenya, But
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: Kenya it happened to be a very big came so
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: I don't know because in Kenya they never say the
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: same thing.
• 59:45
  Speaker 9: Is at it for that, you know, for Kenya's not
• 59:48
  Speaker 9: being allowed. No, yeah, you know, it's all different.
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: But yes for Namiba, the saying that you can use
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: the electronic visa system or obtain a visa on arrival
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: at a designated airport and border posts.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 9: Officials also have encouraged.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: Travelers to check the latest entry requirements before making any
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: travel plans. The move affects travelers from several major tories
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: and markets, including the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Germany, France, Italy, Belgium, Netherlands, Switzerland, Australia, Austria,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: so Austria and Spain, and among others. Meanwhile, citizens of
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: countries that already enjoy reciprocal visa free agreements with Namibia
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: will continue to enter without a visa and amibilem Minister
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: of All Affairs has also say that the policy reflects
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: the country's commitment to protecting its national interest while maintaining
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: positive diplomatic relations with international partners.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 9: The government believes.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: Reciprocity reci reciprocity yeah, I said correctly at this time
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: is a standard practice in international relations, and hopes the
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: move could encourage more countries to concede that there are
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: awn visa requirements for an Amibian citizens.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 9: This is actually very beautiful. I mean, someone who really wants.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: To go to Namibia, I do, I do? You know,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: it's only some people don't like traveling. I'm as agitious man.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: I love traveling. I love traveling, and now that we
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: have a car, I love traveling. Personally, I'd love to
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: go to Namibia.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 9: I would. I would. I would love to go to Namibia.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know so much about Alibia, but
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 9: I would love to go to Namibia.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Why not?
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 8: She?
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: Why not?
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 9: I mean currently it is at.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: Least quite a good leadership quite you know, because we
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: can praise it too much, there might come some sort
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: of decisions that might be to this presidentally love putting
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: a character in the first year, so I can give
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: her too much crops, But I do love she's doing
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: some amazing major terms in the country. Remember also by
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: the beginning of this, yeah, she had promised the citizens
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: or the students of the country there's going to be
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: free access of free, free system of education literally and
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: the country in secually started. Actually, yes, we have so
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: many people who are going to school for free without
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: being school please as it should be. You should have
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: been that really long time ago. On the other end,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: we can see we have the Sierra Leone. We has
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: dropped trees on charges against their ex president Coroma. And
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: I just want to discuss about this likely because when
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: it comes to these perpects, I keep on saying, it's
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: crazy how they think. And I understood this partent because
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: I've been seeing it in Kenya, and I'd say also
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: in many African countries. You know how you serve as
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: a puppet. You don't do good for the people because
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: you know, make the white man happy. And then it
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: comes to a time where they're going to accuse you
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: of all the deadliest things you did in the country
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: and their orders, isn't it funny?
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 9: It's crazy.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: Under their orders, they'll still maybe make you or try
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: to arrest you. Make your choices wisely. It's crazy. The
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: African barbets. It's crazy, Ernest.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 6: But Coroma is free to return to his country.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 9: A former president of Sierra Leone.
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  Speaker 25: Coroma had exiled himself to Nigeria in twenty twenty four after.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 9: He okay, you'll pull that, charged with.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 26: Treason for what authority is called an attempted que a
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 26: year earlier.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 9: What authorities said on choose say that the charges.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 26: Had been dropped and that Coroma could return at any
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 26: time of his choosing.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: According to an official statement in November.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 25: Twenty twenty three, twenty one people were killed and eighty
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 25: arrested after armed attack has stormed several military buildings to
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 25: prisons and police stations.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 26: Sater said that the attacks were a military coup attempt.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 26: No reason has given for the lifting of the charges
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 26: on Tuesday's insiders believe the government is trying to promote
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 26: national unity.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: Mm hmmm, yeah, but that is what is happening in
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: in Sierra Leone.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 9: On the other hand, we have you Ganda.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: That was last week where I reported about Uganda's lawmakers.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: We who said they will no longer say my lord
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: or a bow to judges into at the colonization push.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 9: This was last week reports where I gave it.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: And now we can see that the judiciary in Uganda,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: I say that they're not going to change any of
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: those terms. They want to continue addressing their judges according.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 9: To the master. They slave Master's way.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: So last week, Ugana's Law Society had directed it's members
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: to start calling judges my lord, your lordship.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 9: I don't even know what the earth is a lordship
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 9: that's so crazy, sounds so crazy, my lady, and your worship?
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 9: What's your worship? What will you call me? Your worship?
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 9: What's not a crazy?
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: While also ending the long standing practice of bowing before
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: judicial officers as part of a wider push to decolonize
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: the country's legal profession. The directive issue the Ugandan Law Society,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: President Isaac, through Executive Order R and B number twelve
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: of twenty twenty six, argues that these customs are colonial
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: error practices that no longer reflect to the values of
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 5: our modern and independent Uganda independence.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 9: Indeed, are the new guidance.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 5: Lawyers are instead expected to address the judicial officers by
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: their official titles such as Justice, judge or the magistrate
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: err and maintain respect through professional conduct rather than ceremonial guests.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: The Ugander Law Society say that the move is intended
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: to promote equality, dignity and justice system free from the
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: colone on your traditions. However, the directive applies to members
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: of the law society and is expected to fuel broader
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: discussions about legal culture and court room educate across the country.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: Now come today, Oh that was yesterday, Yeah you Ganner.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: Judiciary responded by saying that they're rejecting the costs to
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: end my lord titles and the courtroom bowing.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 9: So yeah.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: The Ugandan Judiciary has rejected the directive issue by Ugandans
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: Law Society instructing lawyers to stop using colonial eraor courtroom
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: titles such as my Lord, my lady and your worship
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: and to abandon the practice of bowing before judges. The
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: ULS argued that the traditions are outdated and proposed using
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: alternatives such as mister justice and Madame judge as part
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: of their efforts to modernize Uganda in legal system. However,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: the SHOULD responded that the Huganana Society has no authority
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: to determine court room practice, maintaining that the long standing
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: traditions should remain in place. And you know what I'm
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: getting here, It's given. It's given again, the big Nigga
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: syndrome too. That's what it's given. Because the fact that
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: you want your fellow African to still call you your lord,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: your worship and all that bullshit shows how indoctrinated of
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: a person you are and how you love being in power.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 9: You know, And it's crazy.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 5: It's given the big Nigga syndrome for me. How dare
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: you call me by my name? Do you know I'm
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: a judge? You know, because hey, the oppositions have seen
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: in these countries or in life where people brag a
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: lot about it's okay, yeah, you're a lawyer.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 9: Is that a big deal?
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: Because I used to think you're being a lawyer is
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: a big deal. You know, it is a big deal,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: But I don't really see it as a big deal anymore.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 25: I don't know.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: It's because I'm so around lawyers or most of my
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: friends as are lawyers, are areas.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 9: So I'm like, man, it's just like any other person.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 9: It's just it's a profession. It's just like another profession.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 9: Why do you want people to see like you know,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 9: it's like you, you you control the top of the world.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 25: I don't know.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: Doctors growing up, doctors used to you know, flegs and
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: it's like it's a big flex because you're a doctor.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: Only to come figure out these peoples demonstrating because they're
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: not getting paid teachers, pilots, I mean, pilots is a
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: big deal. Hey, you you aren't in lives sh I'll
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: consider that a big deal. I'll consider and ibec the
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: check is.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 9: Also big as the deal, you know. But yeah, I
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 9: don't know.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: This is just giving the big nigger syndrome for me
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: that you don't want to be addressed by your name
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: because you're a judge out there. You call me by
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: my name.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 9: It's so crazy. Shot to Ugandan, shot to the Keny and.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: Sou said, no that you guys look like the TBT,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: the throwback Thursdays of Kenya.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 9: You guys are so behind you look like you look
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 9: like a throw back of Kenya. You know, it is
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 9: so crazy, It is so crazy.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: But on the conversation of today, which is the main
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: as I'm gonna cure I reville about and maybe as
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: we get closer to winding up, we have the U
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: and which has one terrorist threat is spreading across West Africa,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: and then' sa hell again they're back with it. Remember
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: yesterday we had the EU saying that Sudan should stop
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: important exporting.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 9: It's an important exporting.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: Let me see if I can find that article today again. Yeah,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 5: let's say stop stop exporting gold. And no, I'm like
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: the same people stealing from you are the same people
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: who want to tell you you what you should and
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: shouldn't do.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 9: It is just super crazy. Let me see where is it.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 9: Let me see if I can find it. Yeah, it
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 9: was the EU wanted to dine about. I don't think
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 9: I have it. Yeah, it's it's crazy. But listen to this.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 20: The United Nations as one that terrorist groups are expanding
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 20: their rich across West Africa and the style using increasingly
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 20: sophisticated methods and.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 6: State in the.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 27: One the secretary situation, the threat opposed by terrorists and
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 27: other non state armed groups remains acute, especially in the
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 27: Santral s Ael and not An Nigeria rapidly targeting costal
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 27: states in the Gulf of Guinea. These groups are adapting
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 27: the attacks tactics increasingly using advanced technology such as runs,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 27: means of communication and cryptal currencies.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 9: Lies, lies, lies.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 20: The Security Council also had course for greater original cooperation
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 20: and dialogue to address the root causes of insecurity including
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 20: poverty with godlans and climate vulnerability.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 9: Lies and lies and more lies.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: Because very well explainable or understandable, we have the US
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: Nigeria Pledge work pledging closer corperations in counter terrorism fight
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 5: that the US government has reportedly lent its backing lent
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: its backing to nigeria efforts to establish a system for
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: prosecuting terrorism related offense during a visit to the West
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: African nation by the US Assistant Secretary of State for
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: African Affairs, Frank Garcia. Both have found their commitment to
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: strengthening their long standing strategic partnership. The Nigerian government retreated
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 5: its commitments to addressing security challenges through enhanced law enforcement,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: improved protection for vulnerable communities, and sustained efforts to secure.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 9: The Gulf of Guinea and the Lake of Child Bassine.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 9: So this is just all crazy. These people. It's crazy.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 5: But as you wind up, let me check. Let's look
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: at Namibia and what it had brought down the comments.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 9: Let me check. Let's see Namibia today. M wind hack
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 9: again wind see.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 10: Mm hmm.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 17: That's this is Namibia and this is also Namibia, the
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 17: same country in different pictures and many so when speaking
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 17: of inequalities are not only driven and measured by income,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 17: but are determined by other factors such as gender, age
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 17: or regin, ethnicity, disabilage, sexual orientation, class, and religion. These
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 17: factors determine an equality or opportunity which continue to persist
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 17: within of between countries. So speaking of Namibia, in the
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 17: late of nineteenth century became a German colon known.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 6: As German South West Africa.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 17: During this period, indigenous people faced the severe operation including
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 17: land dispossession and forced deliver After World War One, Namidia
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 17: came and the South African rule as a League of
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 17: Nations mandate, leading to further exploitation and racial segregation and
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 17: Upper Thail policies. Then Namibia again independence from South Africa
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 17: in nineteen ninety after law and bradish struggle for freedom
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 17: led by the Southwest Africa People's organization known as Trouble
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 17: and some German became.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: The country's first president.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 17: Since the independence, Namibia has made efforts in national building,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 17: democrats and economic development. The country's vast landscapes, weld life
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 17: and cultural hatred continue to attract tourists.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 6: From around the world. Okay, it is a beautiful country
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 6: and I love it. Therefore, interlaced video. We're going to
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 6: explore the leitch and the poor side at the same time.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 17: So welcome to a channel when insteady one of the
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 17: man umits from you to don't forget like this video
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 17: and thanks to you all of who is coming back
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 17: toward to my videos. Really official that there is an
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 17: upper middle income country. Despite being an upper middle income,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 17: overt and inequality level is fairly high, according to the
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 17: twenty twenty one match Dimension overt Inlex, showing that forty
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 17: three point three per cent of the Namibian population are
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 17: much dimensionally poor. Not only that Namibia rankly are the
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 17: second most unequal country in the world in twenty seventeen
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 17: after South Africa. Historically upper third policies in trenchy economic
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 17: municipalities with the wealthy concentrated among the white men led
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 17: while the black majority face the system make exclamination such
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 17: as an even access to education, health care, any provate opportunities.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 6: Also, about four thousand commercial land owners mostly are whites.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 17: Only around fifty percent of the arable range across the
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 17: country despite a land reform process. According to the file,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 17: around forty two percent of the arable range was owned
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 17: by whites at the time of independence in nineteen ninety
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 17: and it has been said courage German are two percent
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 17: of the namillion pop nation, any still owns seventy percent
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 17: of the Namibian lande And speaking of living, about twenty
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 17: percent of the Namibians live in informal settlements and it
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 17: was also estimated that about ninety percent of the Namibian
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 17: in twenty eighteen were unable to buy house as they
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 17: do not qualify for housing rocks. That's why there is
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 17: a larger number of Namibians without access to form housing
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 17: or mostified lefigy in informal settlement.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: In a twenty twenty one reporting where the Government of.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 17: Namilia statistic ages but the ementional provert was determined to
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 17: affect fifty ninety percent of the population in rural and
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 17: twenty five percent in urban areas. The poorest regions for
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 17: this measure were Cavango West which is eighty percent, Cavango
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 17: East which is seventy percent, an the Cunene region which
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 17: is sixty four percent. Why is the lowest way to
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 17: covert were found in the Erongo which is sixteen percent
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 17: and kas which is twenty one percent. The number of
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 17: Namilians living below the extreme provert as for twenty nineteen
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 17: data was seven point one million.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 6: Equivalent to that.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 9: Is so crazy, That is so crazy.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: I Hopey changes all this, So let's look at the
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 5: one that for the one they're drive in I actually.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 9: Changes all that. I just hope she changes the lives
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 9: of Namibians.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: Before she walks out of power and which won't be
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 5: happy without doing anything. I hope she does what we
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: can see Brian Charry doing because come come a few years,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 5: there's gonna be literally zero reports of poverty in booking
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: a fast because this man is intrigue and when everyone
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: is living well, like their jobs, the system is working.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 5: He has cretual a working system. But this coming in
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: and continue the same system. There's nothing changing. There's nothing
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 5: really changing. Let's driving around and well beyonding.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 9: Will talk sounds like some British name will talk. Let's
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 9: look at this. There's a few that we were we
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 9: were Rabbi tired. Why hawk.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 5: Wind hawk now maybe a wind hawg I don't know.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 5: Way it sounds funny.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 9: Win Hawk.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 9: Quen hog when hog see this actually so green? Not
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 9: really's so creep.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: No, man, it's it this it looks beautiful, it's so clean.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: I damn, it's really clear. I don't see it that
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 5: my goddamn piece of paper like it's okay. Maybe you
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 5: can't walk mirobly, you can't walk over their places like
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 5: you know when you're going to like killing money Lovelington,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 5: no even love me Lovington is no longer push like
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: that like when I was growing up. But you're killing
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 5: money Westlands Parklands. Yeah, those are the place Gota family,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 5: this type of cleanings and maybe they're like the government
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: area offices. Yeah, well I was seeing there's always someone
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 5: who's trying to damn some suit paper somewhere.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 9: It's crazy. It's normally be a drama squitter.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're no street vendors. They're not seeing no street vendors. Yeah, damn,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 5: I'm not so damibia.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 9: Is it's I don't know.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 5: It seems like to be happy or whether like Kenya.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 5: I don't know if it's cool or it seems like
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: it doesn't tempert father like you know, temperate father like Kenya. Yes, yes,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 5: drama squitter.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: M h.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 9: Man, it's so clean.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 5: I'm literally the only thing that is possibly me about
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 5: this really is the cleanness.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 9: You don't really know the damn it's so keen.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: M u.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 28: S s.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 5: So that's I think around this. Let's see another one
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 5: and then wrap it up there. Let's if you can
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 5: see another one.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 16: Mm hmm.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 9: This one, this one is giving. If you guys can
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 9: hear the voice, let me do this. Sometimes it does
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 9: take off the sounds. So let me just do this
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 9: very big. Okay, that's a white.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: On its shops ship shots.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 5: Wow, this is so gorgeous. This is giving the house.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 5: This is giving outside the house. We were in Mombasa,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 5: were kit and paid for a tripping Mombasa. This are
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 5: outside the whole compound was looking men's beautiful.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: Wow. Wow.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 9: Now these are places I want negotiate.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 9: You seem.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 29: Set a school in school.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but in case of course you want to continue
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 9: much of that, you know, just go.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 5: To YouTube and look for the same videos and you'll
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 5: see the beauty of Namibia.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 9: It's really beautiful.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 5: I love it. It looks really nice, tropical trees, it
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  Speaker 5: looks really good.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, it looks really really nice. Wind Hawker. I'm sure
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  Speaker 9: you go to Winnock. That's been my time with you
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  Speaker 9: guys this morning.
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  Speaker 5: So I hope the lady as well does better the
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  Speaker 5: lives of the Namibe, the black Namibians, because I don't
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  Speaker 5: know in Amibia were the white people are calling themselves.
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  Speaker 5: They're calling themselves Africanas or what.
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  Speaker 9: But yeah, I do actually changes so much.
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  Speaker 5: To benefit the people of the country, who are the
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  Speaker 5: indigenous people of that country. But yes, we have the
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  Speaker 5: comments as we wind up key that you were seeing.
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  Speaker 5: I told you he wasn't a Kenyan, he was from
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  Speaker 5: South Africa. Oh the white guy, and then also saying
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  Speaker 5: seas and it's not mismanagement.
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  Speaker 9: They looted their company, Yeah they did. And these are non.
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  Speaker 5: African, controlling African assets. That research you and say, is
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  Speaker 5: that that's why you find out who are the richest
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  Speaker 5: people in Kenya, it is the Indians. You find out
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  Speaker 5: who's the richest people in Uganda, and it's the Indians
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  Speaker 5: and never Africans.
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  Speaker 9: I do agree for real.
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  Speaker 5: Strategy, but Jababo be doing great as well today. Kid
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  Speaker 5: says it's not just Kenya, it's.
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  Speaker 9: An African problem. I do agree. Namibia is nice as hell. Yeah,
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  Speaker 9: it does look really beautiful.
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  Speaker 5: For real, South Africa should shut the effor up every
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  Speaker 5: time they're bragging about their country.
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  Speaker 3: Shit.
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  Speaker 5: Just because you see some videos you see from white
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  Speaker 5: people showing you about our out of places in Africa.
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  Speaker 5: Fact that you think it's all part of the country.
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  Speaker 5: It's really crazy. Maybe Nigeria shit, I'm joking, but yeah,
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  Speaker 5: he doesn't say it's put a short video Jobby driving.
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  Speaker 5: They still have shown that and says they never hold
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  Speaker 5: these bubblets accountable. Never say that's why a corost does
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  Speaker 5: not work, of course, and says I've been told you
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  Speaker 5: they should have been charged that shit and that goofy
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  Speaker 5: wig because all changed.
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  Speaker 9: Sorry I changed. I think that's what you mean. You
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  Speaker 9: mean you meant because that's what the British made them do.
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  Speaker 5: Exactly, And can you imagine this goofy Negros have been
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  Speaker 5: still doing these ships in twenty twenty six. I know
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  Speaker 5: it's crazy and they're saying no seeing that you're you
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  Speaker 5: bringing back the African culture.
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  Speaker 9: That is a backward culture.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 5: It's crazy, it is so crazy, says exactly, that is
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 5: the big Nigga syndrome. Yeah, and it's being called. A
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 5: lawyer and a doctor is a big deal, much more
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  Speaker 5: than a goofy pilot, is it. I don't know for me,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 5: a doctor, No, maybe a lawyer and the pilot, but
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 5: a doctor okay, yeah, they will save lives. But they
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 5: get paid, that's the question, because this one not getting
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  Speaker 5: paid for shit that was demonstrating. I was just demonstrating
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  Speaker 5: about not being paid. So I don't know, I don't think.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know. I don't know, but yeah, I'm assuming
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  Speaker 9: maybe they are.
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  Speaker 5: But Kit also says it's so funny because it's them
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  Speaker 5: that's pain for the shit, because how are these terrorists
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 5: buying this advantage because exactly from who and buying them
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 5: because they are only a few, I do agree countries.
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  Speaker 9: That make these weapons and uh, none of them.
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  Speaker 5: You should have just stayed on the comment section. You
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  Speaker 5: should have just stayed there. You are just good on
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 5: the comments.
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  Speaker 9: Sex. I was just winding up. You should have just
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  Speaker 9: stayed on them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, was.
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  Speaker 1: Going crazy.
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  Speaker 6: Doctors O make but a pam go around ap the
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  Speaker 6: world be when they come to America, don't go to
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  Speaker 6: break Randon and Wells. That is a hollow danger.
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  Speaker 13: That was the you would saying, doesn't doctor.
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  Speaker 1: Is a wealthy.
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  Speaker 9: H That's what's I know. I can't touch because of blood.
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  Speaker 9: I'm good man. I prefer talking then touching people's blood wounds.
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  Speaker 28: Dot on a goofy pilot, goopy pilots don't making as
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  Speaker 28: much as a damn dapper.
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  Speaker 6: And as port as a dapple.
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  Speaker 2: What it's okay?
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  Speaker 28: Really, he just has a real real quick woman. Say,
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  Speaker 28: what is the salary of a surgeon in the York City?
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 28: What is a salary boy?
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  Speaker 6: A surgeon? Because I can't go to all the damn
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 6: different especially a surgeon.
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  Speaker 28: What's the average who as an average income for a surgeon?
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  Speaker 9: Dollars?
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  Speaker 2: What is it?
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 9: Five fund?
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  Speaker 5: That's that's a for the median salary for general surgery.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 5: This guy a thousand, five hundred and seventy five thousand dollars.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 6: Yes, you're almost happening.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't want that.
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  Speaker 6: Listen to half a million a year.
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  Speaker 28: This guy makes it so yeah, Joe, you make my
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 28: money to five hundred and fifty thousand.
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  Speaker 6: That's half a million dollars a year. So but I
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  Speaker 6: think that's I think probably want to say that, don't
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  Speaker 6: make no seerch that they found a million a year
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  Speaker 6: listally not going New York. Yeah, ye, we'll make a.
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  Speaker 3: Lot of money. They'll make no money. It's a shortage
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  Speaker 3: of doctors in Africa who they leave.
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  Speaker 9: That's what's up.
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  Speaker 27: Africa.
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  Speaker 6: Make it no making no peanuts as a doctor like
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  Speaker 6: no American. And you're incited to make money. I supposed
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  Speaker 6: to make as a I'm a doctor. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 6: be stuck in the street.
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  Speaker 1: Education I had.
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  Speaker 5: All right, Yeah, that's what's up. But yes, much love family.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you for clarifying that. Have yourself a beautiful rest
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 5: part of your morney. We're coming back with the two
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• 1:39:12
  Speaker 5: you're gonna be discussing at this evening on the.
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  Speaker 9: Two Bond Show. So have yourself a beautiful rest part
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  Speaker 9: of your Dayjermalschol, thank you for joining us this.
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  Speaker 5: Can you imagine a football player and more than someone
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 5: saves lives?
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  Speaker 9: Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, but what are you doing? I
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  Speaker 9: hope you're happy.
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  Speaker 5: That's just what matters, whatever career you kicked. I hope
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 5: you're happy and thriving in it, but have yourself again,
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  Speaker 5: a beautiful morney in peace and I'm out.
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  Speaker 13: Is that
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  Speaker 9: Because prison them out