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The France riots, Slotkin's pushback, and Election 2026/2028 · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Hugh Hewitt Show. I'm guest host Kurt Schlichter,
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Speaker 2: American Warlord. Now, Election Day is coming up, as I said.
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Speaker 2: Let's be joined by the hardest working guy out there
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Speaker 2: on the campaign trail. I'm talking about Representative Mike Collins
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Speaker 2: of the great state of Georgia. Representative Collins, they have
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Speaker 2: written you off. They said John Ossoff is going to win.
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Speaker 2: And it doesn't seem to be working out that way
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Speaker 2: for this leftist guy, does it?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, whether it's the reporting that the polls are.
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Speaker 4: All screwed up and they've never been right, which we've
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Speaker 4: always known that, or whether it's the fact that he
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Speaker 4: goes off the rails when we try to have a
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Speaker 4: debate just to talk about people's voting, our voting record,
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Speaker 4: mine versus his.
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Speaker 3: He couldn't even talk about that. I don't blame him.
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Speaker 4: It's because he has never represented Georgia. Colonel, he is
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Speaker 4: just using us as a platform. He's running for president.
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Speaker 4: It's all out in the open now. This John Ossoff
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Speaker 4: even endorsed that lunatic DSA candidate in Oklahoma yesterday.
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Speaker 3: So he is the head of this DSA movement.
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Speaker 4: If you like what's going on in France right now,
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Speaker 4: that's what they want to bring to America.
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Speaker 2: Well, uh, Representative Collins, this is like the first time
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Speaker 2: we've talked of many times when you have not been
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Speaker 2: in the front of a vehicle. I hear you went
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Speaker 2: out and voted today. What are the voting patterns look
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Speaker 2: like in Georgia?
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Speaker 3: You know what?
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Speaker 4: You can feel the momentum. And I think we've talked
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Speaker 4: about that in the past because we have. We've been
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Speaker 4: out crisscrossing the state with over put over 2000 miles
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Speaker 4: a week on a vehicle and speaking to thousands of
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Speaker 4: people during the week. We've been able to feel the
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Speaker 4: push now that the polls are open. All of that
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Speaker 4: other polling data you can basically throw out the window.
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Speaker 4: All you really need to look at is just who's
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Speaker 4: going to the polls and voting. We're seeing good, solid
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Speaker 4: Republicans for the majority and most.
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Speaker 3: Of the state.
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Speaker 4: There's a few areas that we need to massage and
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Speaker 4: get them.
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Speaker 3: Ready to go.
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Speaker 4: Some of them don't like to go until Election Day,
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Speaker 4: but we're encouraging them, please get on out there, go vote,
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Speaker 4: take your family, friends, everyone you know, because momentum builds.
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Speaker 4: And the news media has to report that. And that's
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Speaker 4: what they're doing. And you're seeing momentum from the Republican side.
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Speaker 4: And that actually deflates and depresses on the Democrat side.
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Speaker 2: Well, some of the numbers seem to be pretty concerning.
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Speaker 2: If you're a Democrat, young people don't seem to be
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Speaker 2: coming out. A lot of traditional Republican voters seem to
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Speaker 2: be turning out. We've been told that Republicans.
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Speaker 5: Are demoralized, that we're We're outraged that Donald Trump is
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Speaker 5: destroying an enemy that has maimed and murdered thousands of Americans,
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Speaker 5: that they're mad because we're deporting illegal aliens, that they're
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Speaker 5: angry about tax cuts.
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Speaker 2: Is that what you're finding out there?
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Speaker 4: No, we're finding that people are truly interested in who
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Speaker 4: has been sitting out here on the U.S. Senate seat
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Speaker 4: for the state of Georgia, John Ossoff. And they're asking
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Speaker 4: the same questions that we were trying to ask of
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Speaker 4: John Ossoff. Why did you leave those borders open like that?
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Speaker 4: Why did you vote for that historic inflation that caused
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Speaker 4: all these high prices? You hang that around his head
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Speaker 4: that he's the one responsible for that. You know, we're
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Speaker 4: the ones that voted to give you your money back
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Speaker 4: and put more money back in your pocket and no
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Speaker 4: tax on overtime and tips and Social Security. He voted
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Speaker 4: against that. He was willing to vote to put higher
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Speaker 4: taxes on higher prices. And it just goes to show
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Speaker 4: you where this guy really stands. He is voting as
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Speaker 4: far left as he can. It doesn't matter about Georgia.
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Speaker 4: He just wants to represent that wing, that far left
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Speaker 4: wing of the Democrat Party. And I don't blame the
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Speaker 4: Democrats out there. They are demoralized because their party has
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Speaker 4: been hijacked. Over 12% now of the Democrat Party are
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Speaker 4: DSA movement people. What they believe in is borderless societies,
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Speaker 4: no cops, no police, cashless bail, no court system, really.
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Speaker 4: No Supreme Court, no Senate, no House of Representatives. These
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Speaker 4: people are off the rails here. And you see the
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Speaker 4: results of the open borders just being over there in
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Speaker 4: France with all of those riots. I think there is
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Speaker 4: just a combination of things that have been going on
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Speaker 4: in this state with us out.
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Speaker 3: There pushing the message like we are. And you're right, Colonel.
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Speaker 3: He's going to outspend me on money. But I guarantee
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Speaker 3: you one thing.
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Speaker 4: He won't outwork me with making sure that the people
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Speaker 4: of this state of Georgia know that there is a
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Speaker 4: clear difference between between me and John Ossoff.
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Speaker 2: Well, Mike Collins, let's get down to the nitty gritty.
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Speaker 2: This audience here is sophisticated. We're like, OK, he's got
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Speaker 2: the right positions. Does he have the money to get
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Speaker 2: that message out? Are you OK? Are you doing OK
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Speaker 2: in money? I mean, you can always use more.
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Speaker 3: We could. We could.
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Speaker 4: And we're getting our ass. We know how to touch
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Speaker 4: people digitally. Could we use more to be up on broadcast? Yeah,
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Speaker 4: we sure could. I mean, if you, hey, pitch in,
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Speaker 4: help us out, mikecollinsga.com. You go in, pitch in, $ 5, $ 10.
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Speaker 3: $ 20. Every dollar helps us to keep getting that message out.
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Speaker 3: We know how to get it out. It's obviously working.
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Speaker 4: John Ossoff, even in the polls, whether you believe him
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Speaker 4: or not, he's down to 48%.
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Speaker 3: When a sitting U.S.
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Speaker 4: Senator is sitting at 48% with over half of the
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Speaker 4: state that he represents sitting, that is opposed to.
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Speaker 3: Him and doesn't agree with him, now's the time to
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Speaker 3: get him. We've got to get this guy out of
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Speaker 3: this seat this November. If we don't, folks, this guy's
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Speaker 3: going to be a problem for this entire country.
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Speaker 2: How's the ground game going? What are you doing to
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Speaker 2: go out there and knock on doors and make sure
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Speaker 2: people get to the polls?
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: You know, Colonel, I've always been a door knocker, man.
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Speaker 3: Knocking doors wins wars all the time.
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Speaker 4: We've got everybody at Turning Point, Action is out there,
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Speaker 4: Faith and Freedom's out there, RNC's out there. We've got
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Speaker 4: so many groups. Even the local districts are out there
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Speaker 4: canvassing the neighborhoods. That's why we were able to pick up,
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Speaker 4: and we've been hitting four to six events a day
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Speaker 4: in different areas, just staying out there. Of course, I
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Speaker 4: came in today to vote, and we've been getting the
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Speaker 4: word out on what we've been seeing just over the
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Speaker 4: past 24 hours from here on Ground Zero. But we'll
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Speaker 4: be back out again tomorrow. You know, the president's coming
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Speaker 4: back to Georgia on Saturday. That's huge. The administration and
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Speaker 4: the president of the United States see that this guy
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Speaker 4: is beatable.
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Speaker 3: And definitely, President Trump, he wants him out there as
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Speaker 3: bad as we do.
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Speaker 2: Are you getting the support from Governor Brian Kemp and
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Speaker 2: his legendary Georgia machine that you need?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we were in southwest Georgia, I believe
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Speaker 4: it was the day before yesterday.
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Speaker 3: Had a huge event with the governor and had a
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Speaker 3: great crowd. He's been there.
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Speaker 4: He's been pushing where he knows to push and how
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Speaker 4: he can help us. Everybody on the Republican Party here,
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Speaker 4: everybody in this state, is rowing the boat the same
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Speaker 4: direction and at the same speed. That's why you're seeing
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Speaker 4: the results out there. That's why you're seeing this momentum push. And, Colonel,
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Speaker 4: I'm telling you, this thing is sitting right here in
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Speaker 4: front of us.
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Speaker 3: It's right there. All we got to do is just
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Speaker 3: grab this thing and hold on to it, and we've
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Speaker 3: got this.
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Speaker 4: And the way you do that is by just getting
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Speaker 4: out there and voting, and people are responding to that.
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Speaker 2: Look, you mentioned Southwest Georgia immediately gave me PTSD because
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Speaker 2: I went to officer candidate school and airborne school at
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Speaker 2: Fort Benning. There are a ton of patriotic vets in Georgia.
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Speaker 2: What are you doing to mobilize them?
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, veterans.
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Speaker 4: Georgia is one of the largest states now in the
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Speaker 4: southeast that veterans call home. And they see the fact
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Speaker 4: that John Ossoff shut down this government trying to give
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Speaker 4: illegals health care.
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Speaker 3: And we've got.
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Speaker 4: Veterans out there that need our help, that earned their
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Speaker 4: health care, that earned their benefits. And they understand the
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Speaker 4: fact that John Ossoff is putting illegals in front of
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Speaker 4: Americans that they have.
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Speaker 3: Been out there putting their life on the line for.
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Speaker 4: They stood in the gap to make sure that we
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Speaker 4: were free and secure. And John Ossoff has been down
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Speaker 4: there with that border-wide open, wanting to give illegals health care,
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Speaker 4: even shut the government down again just to try to
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Speaker 4: get rid of Border Patrol and ICE.
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Speaker 3: So they see where this guy stands. We need them
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Speaker 3: to step up. They have been. We've been out there touring.
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Speaker 3: God knows.
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Speaker 4: We've had so many veterans events today. Out there across
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Speaker 4: the state, it's been incredible how they turn out. And
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Speaker 4: they understand what's at stake here, too.
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Speaker 2: Well, Mike Collins, let us know again how we can
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Speaker 2: help you. And let us know one more thing. You
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Speaker 2: really think you can go against all the conventional wisdom
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Speaker 2: and win this thing in Georgia?
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Speaker 3: Colonel, I'm going to be your next U.S.
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Speaker 6: Senator.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to be the U.S. Senator from Georgia after
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Speaker 3: November the 3rd. If you want to help us out,
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Speaker 3: I could use it. I sure could, folks. I could
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Speaker 3: use your help.
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Speaker 4: If you go to MikeCollinsGA.com, pitch in whatever you can.
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Speaker 4: It would be much appreciative. We're going to continue to
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Speaker 4: pound the dirt out here.
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Speaker 3: We've got our head down. We keep plowing every day.
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Speaker 3: And we're going to win this election at the end
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Speaker 3: of the day.
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Speaker 2: Well, Mike Collins, it's been a pleasure to talk to you.
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Speaker 2: You know, I must have talked to you a half
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Speaker 2: dozen times since this campaign started. And you're always working.
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Speaker 2: You're always positive. You're always upbeat. You're always standing with Americans.
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Speaker 2: You're exactly what we need in the United States Senate.
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Speaker 2: One more time, how can people help you take John
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Speaker 2: Ossoff out of the U.S. Senate and send him off
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Speaker 2: to whatever law firm he's going to go work for?
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Speaker 4: They can go to MikeCollinsGA.com.
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Speaker 3: That's MikeCollinsGA.com. Colonel, I appreciate it, brother. It is always
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Speaker 3: going to be America first, period.
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Speaker 2: I hope to talk to you when you are the
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Speaker 2: next senator-elect from the great state of Georgia. I am
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Speaker 2: Kurt Schlichter. This is The Hugh Hewitt Show. Stick around.
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Speaker 2: We have so much more to come. A little bit
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Speaker 2: of The Clash here on the Hugh Hewitt Show. And
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Speaker 2: guess who's Kurt Schlesinger?
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Speaker 6: Love it.
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Speaker 7: I know.
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Speaker 2: Among other things, author of the new book, American Warlord,
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Speaker 2: drops on Election Day. I'm thrilled that my buddy Eli
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Speaker 2: Lake is joining me now. Eli, you haven't been doing
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Speaker 2: Breaking History lately, your amazing podcast. I haven't seen that
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Speaker 2: much from you in the free press, and we haven't
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Speaker 2: called and just chatted away for a while. Do you
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Speaker 2: hate me and America? What's going on?
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Speaker 8: Kurt, I love you, man. Let me tell you, I've
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Speaker 8: been very, very busy putting the finishing touches on a
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Speaker 8: limited breaking history series on the Bush dynasty. I've just
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Speaker 8: heard some of the rough cuts. I've heard some of
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Speaker 8: the rough cuts. I think it's very good work, but
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Speaker 8: I'm too close to it. The people will get a
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Speaker 8: chance to hear it themselves after the election. So it's
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Speaker 8: coming soon. And I've got some pieces coming up in
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Speaker 8: the free press, too, and the print side.
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Speaker 2: Well, I never miss a breaking history. And I think
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Speaker 2: talking about the Bushes is very appropriate. And I've got
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Speaker 2: to tell you, I'm a little annoyed with them. You know,
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Speaker 2: we have a number of Bushes going for Tallarico here
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Speaker 2: in Texas, a literal demon communist against a guy who
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Speaker 2: is perhaps imperfect. But we'll always vote for the United States.
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Speaker 8: There's a little bit of an understatement there, Kurt, don't
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Speaker 8: you think?
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 8: He was impeached by a Republican legislature.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he defeated it. And frankly, the Republicans who
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Speaker 2: impeached him were largely aligned with the Bush element. And look,
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Speaker 2: I remember the Bush folks were telling me, you know,
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Speaker 2: I was defending them 20 years ago. when George Bush
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Speaker 2: was too dignified to defend himself. And as soon as
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Speaker 2: we dared vote for someone besides Jeb, suddenly he's pals
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Speaker 2: with Bill and Barack and Joe and the hell with us.
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Speaker 2: And I've got no use for these Republicans.
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Speaker 6: None.
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Speaker 8: I take a very long look. And, you know, it's
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Speaker 8: hard to say. It's not hagiography that I do with
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Speaker 8: the Bushes. because I agree that there are elements that
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Speaker 8: are worth criticism, but I think overall it was a
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Speaker 8: patriotic family and they managed to do something that's very difficult.
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Speaker 8: If you think about kind of the cycles of great families,
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Speaker 8: which is that long after they had, the Bushes had
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Speaker 8: made their fortunes and were kind of in the, you know,
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Speaker 8: you know, they still produced progeny that were willing to, uh,
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Speaker 8: compete and win in the political arena. Um, and so
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Speaker 8: if you look at it, like, you know, it's, it's
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Speaker 8: like you compare to the Kennedys, right? You know, you had,
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Speaker 8: you know, uh, you know, you had kind of early
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Speaker 8: local political success. Then you had Joe Kennedy who made
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Speaker 8: his fortune. And then you had, you know, Jack Kennedy,
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Speaker 8: Bobby Kennedy, and then Ted Kennedy, not as great as
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Speaker 8: the other two brothers, uh, Um, and then it's sort
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Speaker 8: of like, since then it's, you can see it's kind
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Speaker 8: of gone downhill. The Bush has managed to sort of have, uh,
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Speaker 8: you know, a pretty impressive run. And, um, you know,
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Speaker 8: I would say that there was a lot that they
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Speaker 8: accomplished as well.
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Speaker 9: I see your point.
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Speaker 8: There has always been a kind of distrust going back
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Speaker 8: to George H.W. Bush for the kind of Reaganite wing
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Speaker 8: of the, of the Republican party. They never really trusted him.
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Speaker 9: Um, I think George W.
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Speaker 6: Was more of a Reaganite.
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Speaker 8: Um, And I hear the resentment here that 2016, it
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Speaker 8: was sort of wide open and they wanted it to
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Speaker 8: be one of these kind of things again. But I
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Speaker 8: do think it's a significant part of American history, the
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Speaker 8: sort of Bush era, and it represented something very different
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Speaker 8: than what we've got now. So I wanted to explore
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Speaker 8: it as I often do.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think it is worth exploring. I think it's
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Speaker 2: going to be very interesting. I will certainly be the
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Speaker 2: first to start listening. And, of course, H.W. Bush was
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Speaker 2: a certifiable war hero, which I think is kind of
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Speaker 2: an interesting– Absolutely.
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Speaker 6: That's the other thing.
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Speaker 8: An interesting– Let me just emphasize something on the war– yeah,
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Speaker 8: on the war hero, and I just want to stress this.
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Speaker 2: Slap it.
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Speaker 8: Not just a war hero.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 8: Graduates from Andover on his birthday. As soon as he can,
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Speaker 8: he volunteers to become a naval aviator. Against the advice
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Speaker 8: of his family and everyone else who said, you know,
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Speaker 8: you can defer, go to Yale– um, you know, you don't, you,
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Speaker 8: you know, this is somebody who had a sort of
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Speaker 8: the life of privilege ahead of him. And he decided
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Speaker 8: not only to kind of, to serve, he served in
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Speaker 8: one of the most dangerous kind of missions, which are the,
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Speaker 8: the beginning of Naval aviation in the, in the Pacific, uh,
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Speaker 8: against a brutal Japanese enemy.
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Speaker 2: So I just, yeah, I, Look, I think a lot
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Speaker 2: of the Republicans who talk down to the new majority
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Speaker 2: of Republicans about principles and honor could do with a
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Speaker 2: little bit of this noblesse oblige. But, you know, I
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Speaker 2: didn't serve with a lot of guys who reminded me
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Speaker 2: of the Bushes.
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Speaker 6: That's also true.
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Speaker 2: Yes, it was a very different– Yeah, and he was
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Speaker 2: my commander-in-chief when I was in Desert Storm, and I
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Speaker 2: trusted him, and I think he took care of the troops.
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Speaker 2: You can argue with some of the strategic things, but
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Speaker 2: I don't think ever did I think he was going
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Speaker 2: to screw us over.
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Speaker 8: Most successful one-term president we've ever had.
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Speaker 2: I think you're probably right. Boy, we could go– see,
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Speaker 2: the thing I love about you, Eli, is we can
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Speaker 2: just talk about anything for a while. Obviously, we want
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Speaker 2: to talk about the election a little bit in the macro.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I'm cautiously optimistic. I don't think we're going to lose
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Speaker 2: the Senate and I don't think Republicans will lose the Senate.
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Speaker 8: Well, you know, that's that is one take. I am,
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Speaker 8: as they say in the beginning of the commentary podcast,
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Speaker 8: I'm you know, I hope for the best and I
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Speaker 8: prepare for the worst. I think that, you know, yeah,
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Speaker 8: I'm worried that, you know, Trump is not connecting with
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Speaker 8: a lot of the people that elected him in 2024
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Speaker 8: right now. His numbers are not good.
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Speaker 6: He's in the 30s.
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Speaker 8: They think he's made a hash of inflation, which I
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Speaker 8: think is the number one issue. So I worry that.
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Speaker 9: It's a good year.
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Speaker 8: I do think that the one thing, I do think
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Speaker 8: it's clear that Abdel El-Said and the kind of radicalism,
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Speaker 8: the Jacobin politics that we saw earlier this year when
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Speaker 8: we saw a lot of these kind of candidates win
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Speaker 8: in deep blue districts, that is maybe becoming, it looks like,
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Speaker 8: a liability based on the amount of money the Democrats
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Speaker 8: are spending and the attention Obama's going to stump for him.
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Speaker 8: He shouldn't need that much help to get over the
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Speaker 8: finish line. And it's quite possible that, you know, Mike
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Speaker 8: Rogers will pull a rabbit out of the hat, which
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Speaker 8: I think will be very good for the country. But
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Speaker 8: I think overall, I'm just, you know, I worry that
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Speaker 8: it's just not going to be the GOP's year at
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Speaker 8: this point.
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Speaker 6: Like, I.
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Speaker 2: I try and be objective. I was a lawyer. I
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Speaker 2: was a soldier. Facts are facts, whether I want to
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Speaker 2: be or not. I just think the correlation of facts says,
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Speaker 2: you know, I don't think we're going to do great,
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Speaker 2: but I don't think the Republicans lose the Senate. I
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Speaker 2: think the House is very difficult to hold. There are
18:51
Speaker 2: people who tell you we'll hold it. Eh, you don't
18:54
Speaker 2: see my money on that outcome, though I'd love it.
18:57
Speaker 2: The problem is if we start going down the DSA path,
19:01
Speaker 2: That's dangerous for America and for Western civilization.
19:04
Speaker 8: Well, I have a question for you, and I would
19:07
Speaker 8: love to also hear your next guest, Matt Catanetti, on this.
19:09
Speaker 8: Do you think the images from France will have an
19:13
Speaker 8: effect on our midterms?
19:15
Speaker 3: Yes.
19:15
Speaker 8: This is what you get if you let the DSA
19:18
Speaker 8: kind of continue, if you give them too much power.
19:21
Speaker 10: Mike Collins in Georgia just indicated that's happening on the ground.
19:24
Speaker 6: He sees it already.
19:26
Speaker 9: Yep.
19:27
Speaker 2: It's already happening. And we're still happening on the Hugh
19:30
Speaker 2: Hewitt Show. That was Eli Lake from the Free Press,
19:32
Speaker 2: Breaking History Podcast. Great guy. Stick around for more Hugh
19:37
Speaker 2: Hewitt Show. Welcome back to the Hugh Hewitt Show. I'm
19:49
Speaker 2: guest host Kurt Schlichter. And, of course, Adam just kills
19:53
Speaker 2: it on the bumper music with the replacements. Here comes
19:56
Speaker 2: a regular knockout song and knockout guest, Matt Continetti. You
20:02
Speaker 2: can find him at Continetti on X.com. He is an
20:05
Speaker 2: AEI scholar and a Wall Street Journal columnist. I got
20:09
Speaker 2: it right this time, right, Matt?
20:12
Speaker 9: You got it right, Kurt.
20:15
Speaker 2: Good to see you. Good to see you. You know,
20:17
Speaker 2: we had Eli Lake earlier, and he said, I really
20:21
Speaker 2: want to know what Matt Continetti thinks about the idea
20:24
Speaker 2: that the French unrest and the video of it. is
20:29
Speaker 2: going to have a significant effect here in America. And
20:32
Speaker 2: I see it plays right into the Republican argument, which
20:36
Speaker 2: is if you elect Democrats, you're voting for chaos. What
20:39
Speaker 2: do you think?
20:41
Speaker 1: Yeah.
20:42
Speaker 10: And, you know, the way that the Republicans frame the
20:45
Speaker 10: debate in the midterm convention was common sense versus crazy.
20:50
Speaker 10: And there's no question that you look at what's happening
20:53
Speaker 10: overseas in Paris and and in France at large, and
20:57
Speaker 10: you see a lot of craziness. You see the result
21:00
Speaker 10: of unrestricted migration. You see the result of no-go zones
21:07
Speaker 10: where Islamic ideology has been allowed to fester for decades.
21:11
Speaker 10: And you see the result of a socialistic welfare state
21:15
Speaker 10: that the French typically have prided themselves on. And that's
21:18
Speaker 10: exactly the type of future that I think most Americans
21:21
Speaker 10: want to avoid, However, it's the future that the democratic
21:25
Speaker 10: socialists of America would like to impose on our country.
21:28
Speaker 10: And so, sure, you see those images, and I think
21:31
Speaker 10: it would remind everyone about the stakes in this election.
21:35
Speaker 10: You don't want what's happening in Europe to be America's future.
21:39
Speaker 2: Well, you know, Matt Croninetti, I'm a lawyer. I like
21:42
Speaker 2: to cross-examine people, and sadly, except for once in a
21:46
Speaker 2: while in a debate when you have actual moderators who
21:50
Speaker 2: know how to ask a question– it's really hard to
21:54
Speaker 2: put a politician on the spot, but I would like
21:56
Speaker 2: to put some of these leftist Democrats on the spot
21:59
Speaker 2: and say, take a look at France with all its
22:02
Speaker 2: social programs, with its immigration, with its lack of a
22:06
Speaker 2: second amendment. What would you like America to do that's
22:11
Speaker 2: different from France? And I think you would, I think
22:15
Speaker 2: you'd see a lot of tap dancing.
22:18
Speaker 3: Yeah.
22:20
Speaker 9: Or they would, They would just be honest.
22:22
Speaker 10: And these DSA candidates would say nothing, nothing different than France.
22:27
Speaker 10: And in fact, France doesn't go far enough in terms
22:30
Speaker 10: of the type of radical change that a lot of
22:32
Speaker 10: socialist candidates are proposing for the United States. I just
22:35
Speaker 10: take Medicare for all, for example. I mean, this is
22:38
Speaker 10: a one size fits all health program. It would end
22:42
Speaker 10: employer based health insurance. It would end Medicare as we
22:46
Speaker 10: know it. Medicare Part D insurance. which many seniors rely
22:51
Speaker 10: on and enjoy, that would go away. But that's exactly
22:53
Speaker 10: the type of health care plan that Abdul Al-Sayed in Michigan,
22:57
Speaker 10: Peggy Flanagan in Minnesota, and Troy Jackson in Maine advocate.
23:02
Speaker 10: And so if the moderators don't raise it, it's up
23:05
Speaker 10: to the Republican candidates to make sure that voters are
23:09
Speaker 10: aware of the choice and of the radicalism of many
23:12
Speaker 10: of these candidates, some of whom try their hardest to
23:16
Speaker 10: hide it. And there I'm thinking about James Tallarico, who
23:19
Speaker 10: has tried to do a 180 in the general election,
23:22
Speaker 10: portraying himself somehow as a reasonable guy when all you
23:26
Speaker 10: need is a few seconds of research to find out
23:29
Speaker 10: just how far left he really is.
23:32
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm at the Relief Factor studio annex
23:34
Speaker 2: here in Houston at my home here. And I switched
23:39
Speaker 2: time between California and here. And when I came here
23:40
Speaker 2: in September, I wanted to see Are we looking at
23:43
Speaker 2: Tallarico mania? And we are not. You see a few
23:47
Speaker 2: Tallarico signs, particularly in the very liberal area that I
23:50
Speaker 2: live in, but not that many, nowhere near as many
23:52
Speaker 2: as with Beto. I've talked to a lot of activist
23:56
Speaker 2: Republicans and zero, Matt, zero, as in none, think Tallarico
24:01
Speaker 2: is going to win. I talked to normal Republicans, the
24:05
Speaker 2: regular kind of folks, and a month or so ago
24:08
Speaker 2: they were Well, I really– Paxton is kind of a
24:12
Speaker 2: crook and I really don't know much about this Tallarico.
24:15
Speaker 2: And then the money started dropping and now it's like
24:17
Speaker 2: this Tallarico is a literal demon. You will not stop
24:21
Speaker 2: me from voting against him. What do you think? Do
24:26
Speaker 2: you think the Republican– do you think the Republicans are
24:30
Speaker 2: going to be able to save Texas?
24:33
Speaker 10: Oh, I think there's a strong chance Republicans will come
24:35
Speaker 10: ahead in Texas. I was struck by, I believe it
24:38
Speaker 10: was Katie Tour, the reporter on MSNOW, who said, you know,
24:43
Speaker 10: I spent some time in Texas recently, and I don't
24:46
Speaker 10: really believe the polls after that. I think that Paxton
24:51
Speaker 10: is doing much better than.
24:52
Speaker 9: The polls show.
24:54
Speaker 10: So what many Republicans are hoping for is some type
24:57
Speaker 10: of polling miss. I've noticed that in the more recent polls,
25:00
Speaker 10: Paxton and Tallarico are essentially tied. I think that's good
25:04
Speaker 10: for Paxton, and I think having Greg Abbott open up
25:06
Speaker 10: a lead over his challenger will also help Paxton in
25:10
Speaker 10: the end.
25:10
Speaker 2: Well, Matt, stick around over the break, and we'll talk more.
25:14
Speaker 2: There's a lot happening out there. I'm guest host Kurt Schlichter.
25:17
Speaker 2: This is The Hugh Hewitt Show. Stick around. Welcome back.
25:35
Speaker 2: To the anarchy that is Kurt Schlichter guest hosting on
25:38
Speaker 2: The Hugh Hewitt Show, I'm continuing with my guest, Matt Continetti,
25:42
Speaker 2: AEI scholar, Wall Street Journal columnist. I know you're a
25:45
Speaker 2: big fan of Megadeth, obviously.
25:47
Speaker 9: Yeah, of course. You missed me headbanging there during the bump.
25:56
Speaker 2: Speaking of wanting to bang your head, did you catch
25:59
Speaker 2: what Senator Elisa Slotkin had to say the other day?
26:04
Speaker 2: about preserving our democracy through the power of fascism.
26:09
Speaker 9: I really did.
26:10
Speaker 10: I saw Slotkin's comments that she wants to put the
26:14
Speaker 10: fear of God into young people who might serve Donald
26:18
Speaker 10: Trump in the administration or go on to serve future
26:21
Speaker 10: Republican presidents. And I have to say it was pretty
26:24
Speaker 10: galling language and a reminder of the Democratic strategy. I mean,
26:28
Speaker 10: let's not forget that the Democrats hounded Trump when he
26:33
Speaker 10: was in office. once they got control of the House
26:36
Speaker 10: of Representatives, and, of course, even before that with the
26:38
Speaker 10: Russia investigation. And then as soon as he left office,
26:41
Speaker 10: of course, all the various investigations, the debanking, the indictments.
26:48
Speaker 10: I think what Slotkin was suggesting is that's going to
26:50
Speaker 10: be the same strategy Democrats use beginning next January if
26:54
Speaker 10: they take one or both chambers of Congress, and it's
26:58
Speaker 10: going to follow Trump, and it's going to follow anyone
27:01
Speaker 10: who worked for Trump or who wants to work for Trump.
27:04
Speaker 10: And so it's pretty remarkable that she would say this
27:07
Speaker 10: at the same time that Democrats are complaining and critiquing
27:12
Speaker 10: Donald Trump's lawfare against members of their own party.
27:18
Speaker 2: Well, look, I think it's a little disconcerting that when
27:22
Speaker 2: fascism comes to America, it's it's looks like an H.R.
27:27
Speaker 2: Karen dressed in a J.C. Penney's pantsuit. I mean, I I.
27:32
Speaker 2: I didn't quite expect it. Do you think she's dumb
27:36
Speaker 2: and doesn't understand what she's saying? Or she really thinks that, yeah,
27:41
Speaker 2: we need to disenfranchise half of America because they're getting
27:45
Speaker 2: in the way of our exercise of raw power?
27:49
Speaker 10: I don't think Alyssa Slotkin is dumb. So I think
27:52
Speaker 10: she was being very frank, and I think she's speaking–
27:57
Speaker 10: the sentiments that many Democrats share. I don't think her
28:01
Speaker 10: opinion was out of the Democratic mainstream. Many Democrats believe
28:06
Speaker 10: Donald Trump is the greatest threat to this democracy, and
28:09
Speaker 10: they're prepared to take extraordinary measures to stop him and
28:12
Speaker 10: his movement. And this is, again, a reminder of what's
28:15
Speaker 10: at stake in November, because if the Democrats win the
28:18
Speaker 10: House of Representatives, they win the House and the Senate,
28:23
Speaker 10: it's really going to be trench warfare for the next
28:25
Speaker 10: two years because they're going to do everything they can
28:28
Speaker 10: to ruin what has been a pretty successful second term.
28:33
Speaker 2: Yeah. I, you know, the last time the Democrats decided
28:37
Speaker 2: they needed to take extraordinary measures, they fired on Fort
28:40
Speaker 2: Sumter and that ended badly. I, I, I know she's America. Look,
28:45
Speaker 2: I know she worked for the CIA and is therefore
28:48
Speaker 2: to be presumed incompetent. It's no secret that the, Best
28:52
Speaker 2: book about the CIA's title is Legacy of Ashes, which
28:56
Speaker 2: tells you about its effectiveness. But is she really blind
29:01
Speaker 2: to the danger of telling half of America, you can't
29:05
Speaker 2: be involved in politics. If you are, we're going to
29:09
Speaker 2: frame you and put you in jail and ruin you.
29:14
Speaker 2: And does she think that the rest of us are
29:15
Speaker 2: just going to kind of look at each other, shrug
29:17
Speaker 2: and go, well, this whole– Freedom thing was good while
29:21
Speaker 2: it lasted. I guess we have to, you know, have
29:24
Speaker 2: a you know, her Crocs pressed down on our face forever.
29:29
Speaker 10: I think that's quite a metaphor. I think the Democrats
29:34
Speaker 10: haven't learned anything, Kurt. And I think that they're going
29:37
Speaker 10: to repeat the same mistakes they made. the last time
29:41
Speaker 10: they were in power. And you already see it, that
29:43
Speaker 10: the Democrats are raring to impeach not just President Trump.
29:47
Speaker 10: They want to impeach Secretary of War Hegseth, among others.
29:51
Speaker 10: They're going to try to go after Elon Musk, flying
29:55
Speaker 10: cars or not. And they're going to continue down the line.
29:58
Speaker 10: And even though the lawfare completely backfired, even though the
30:03
Speaker 10: lawfare that hounded Trump at the end of his term
30:07
Speaker 10: and then throughout his ex-presidency actually helped him win back
30:13
Speaker 10: the White House in 2024, the Democrats are prepared to
30:16
Speaker 10: do it again. And by the way, this lack of memory,
30:20
Speaker 10: this amnesia doesn't just apply to the lawfare. It applies
30:24
Speaker 10: to all their economic and foreign policies as well. Now,
30:28
Speaker 10: Trump will be able to veto the bad legislation out
30:30
Speaker 10: of Congress. But this is going to be the debate
30:33
Speaker 10: in 2028. Are we going to allow a liberal back
30:35
Speaker 10: in the White House who is going to spend trillions
30:38
Speaker 10: of dollars that cause inflation, open the borders to illegal immigrants,
30:42
Speaker 10: and basically have a very aloof approach to the world,
30:46
Speaker 10: surrendering to our enemies that only will create chaos around
30:50
Speaker 10: the globe?
30:51
Speaker 9: That's the debate. It's always the debate.
30:53
Speaker 10: And I think Slotkin's comments suggest that the Democrats have
30:56
Speaker 10: They're just doubling down on bad decisions.
31:00
Speaker 2: Is it because the Democrats don't believe the Republicans will
31:05
Speaker 2: fight back? I mean, the last 11 years have been
31:07
Speaker 2: nothing but Republicans fighting back. But they seem to think that,
31:12
Speaker 2: you know, if somehow we can just, you know, get
31:16
Speaker 2: just enough power to start doing things, we'll pack the
31:20
Speaker 2: Supreme Court and we'll bring in these territories to make
31:24
Speaker 2: new states so we have artificial senators, and then we'll
31:27
Speaker 2: just outlaw the things they like, and they'll just kind
31:31
Speaker 2: of salute and submit, and they don't understand that there
31:37
Speaker 2: are options, and the options include I mean, we've seen
31:44
Speaker 2: basically a pseudo-insurrection to fight against immigration. What do you
31:50
Speaker 2: think some of these red states are going to do
31:52
Speaker 2: when they announce you can't have your AR-15s anymore? Do
31:56
Speaker 2: they imagine everyone's just going to line up and turn
31:58
Speaker 2: them in like a bunch of spineless Canadians?
32:03
Speaker 9: I don't know what they imagine.
32:04
Speaker 10: I mean, we know that the state governments, the state AGs,
32:09
Speaker 10: they'd respond to a White House that's out of control
32:12
Speaker 10: with lawsuits. The liberals are always frustrated by conservatives because
32:17
Speaker 10: no matter what happens, conservatives still want to conserve what's
32:21
Speaker 10: best in their country and their society. And so you
32:24
Speaker 10: can't get... Think about it, Kurt. Who's the president who
32:28
Speaker 10: got more than 51% of the vote in the.
32:31
Speaker 9: Last 25 years? It was Barack Obama. That happened once.
32:34
Speaker 9: That happened in 2008.
32:35
Speaker 10: The Democrats have had one filibuster proof majority in the
32:40
Speaker 10: Senate in the last 25 years. And that lasted six months.
32:44
Speaker 10: So the Democrats, once again, they've forgotten nothing and learned nothing.
32:49
Speaker 2: Oh, God, how apt that they would be the leaders
32:53
Speaker 2: of the best analogy for our Democrats are the leaders
32:57
Speaker 2: of France. Amazing. Matt Continetti, AEI scholar, Wall Street Journal columnist,
33:04
Speaker 2: perennial guest here on the Hugh Hewitt Show. I'm guest host,
33:07
Speaker 2: Kurt Schlichter.
33:08
Speaker 6: Stick around.
33:08
Speaker 2: We have a lot more to come.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to come down for the Republican. It's just
35:21
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35:24
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35:29
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35:43
Speaker 6: Hey, Kurt. Great to be on. Thanks for having me. Thanks.
35:46
Speaker 2: Well, you saw my great organizational skills, my logistical skills
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35:55
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35:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got to apologize.
35:58
Speaker 6: I'm on my phone now trying to get to that
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Speaker 6: straight link, so it's not exactly the studio setup I
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36:03
Speaker 2: Well, I think you look very distinguished.
36:09
Speaker 6: Well, thank you, Kurt.
36:11
Speaker 9: Now.
36:15
Speaker 2: You're aware of Elisa Slotkin and her threat to persecute
36:19
Speaker 2: people who dared try and work for their country, albeit
36:23
Speaker 2: under a different political party.
36:26
Speaker 6: Yeah, I am. I think what is really striking about
36:29
Speaker 6: this is her representation as a former member of the CIA.
36:34
Speaker 6: She is doing the things that we talked about earlier
36:37
Speaker 6: with color revolutions. She's setting the stage for conditions where
36:41
Speaker 6: people can say, hey, there's illegitimacy in this country. This
36:44
Speaker 6: Trump administration is illegitimate. People who support it are illegitimate.
36:48
Speaker 6: And they need to be arrested. They need to be punished.
36:51
Speaker 6: They need to be prevented from even coming in to
36:53
Speaker 6: serve their country. It's astonishing. You and I experienced a
36:57
Speaker 6: little bit of this ourselves. You raise your hand to
36:59
Speaker 6: help out with the nation, and all of a sudden,
37:02
Speaker 6: because it's the Trump administration, they.
37:04
Speaker 7: Come at you.
37:05
Speaker 6: They hurt you. They try to hurt you. It's really
37:08
Speaker 6: abominable and un-American.
37:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they hit like girls. But it gets even worse. Now,
37:14
Speaker 2: our friend, data Republican, who's a well-known analyst, worked for
37:23
Speaker 2: a Pentagon for a little while, does a lot of stuff,
37:25
Speaker 2: has uncovered some incredible scenes of, including retired military officers,
37:34
Speaker 2: attempting to create a plan to delegitimize the elected government
37:40
Speaker 2: of the United States to essentially steal power through a
37:43
Speaker 2: color revolution. And look, and I know it sounds crazy
37:47
Speaker 2: when you and I are talking about it, like this
37:49
Speaker 2: is some left of the dial station with a lunatic
37:53
Speaker 2: who thinks he's been taken by UFO guys and probed.
37:58
Speaker 2: But they were saying it. And the fact is people
38:02
Speaker 2: did it in other countries.
38:06
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, the thing that's astonishing about this, and
38:08
Speaker 6: it does sound crazy, is the people who are behind it.
38:12
Speaker 6: These are ex-USAID employees. These are ex-CIA folks. These are ex-military.
38:17
Speaker 6: And they're very seriously planning a color revolution. I saw
38:21
Speaker 6: you talk about a color revolution briefly earlier. It's basically
38:24
Speaker 6: an information operation to delegitimize a sitting government in favor
38:28
Speaker 6: of whatever force someone wants to put into power. And
38:31
Speaker 6: the same people who did it in Ukraine and Georgia
38:33
Speaker 6: and Kyrgyzstan, they're doing it now in the USA. And
38:36
Speaker 6: it's not some crazy conspiracy theory. Go look at that
38:39
Speaker 6: a Republican's X feed and all the videos she has
38:42
Speaker 6: up of these people planning it, plotting it. It's all there.
38:46
Speaker 6: And it's so hard to believe that people don't believe it.
38:48
Speaker 6: But it's true.
38:50
Speaker 2: What it involves is creating disturbances, getting local governments and
38:57
Speaker 2: governors to oppose it. the federal government, trying to create
39:03
Speaker 2: incidents which they can, and we saw this with the ICE,
39:08
Speaker 2: when people were trying to run over or attack ICE agents,
39:12
Speaker 2: you know, and the ICE guys, well, used force. Oh,
39:15
Speaker 2: it's an outrage. They're murdering Americans. It's all an attempt
39:19
Speaker 2: to delegitimize. And I think one of the vulnerabilities, the
39:24
Speaker 2: major vulnerability they have, is when people are aware of
39:29
Speaker 2: what they're doing. It can't be a color revolution if
39:34
Speaker 2: it's transparent.
39:37
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely. I think awareness is key. And, you know,
39:41
Speaker 6: what they're trying to do is rope governors in. And J.B.
39:44
Speaker 6: Pritzker is probably the main one because he actually has
39:47
Speaker 6: favorably received a copy of this plan that they've written,
39:50
Speaker 6: as has his governor's conference, I forget the name of it.
39:54
Speaker 6: And I think that the way we have to attack
39:56
Speaker 6: getting the word out on this is to go after
39:57
Speaker 6: those governors. We literally have governors trying to be Jefferson Davis.
40:01
Speaker 6: I mean, I know that sounds crazy, but when you
40:03
Speaker 6: watch these videos and you see what's actually going on,
40:05
Speaker 6: it's true. Well, you had.
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Speaker 2: Elise Slotkin literally saying, I want to scare people out
40:11
Speaker 2: of participating in their own government by selectively prosecuting people
40:18
Speaker 2: who have worked for the government. Impliedly, without– it doesn't
40:23
Speaker 2: matter if they actually broke the law. That's not the point.
40:26
Speaker 2: Her point was, I want them to think twice about
40:28
Speaker 2: whether it's worth the hassle, the process being the point. Yeah,
40:32
Speaker 2: I mean– It's outrageous.
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Speaker 6: Exactly. Exactly. It's insane. And it's just saying, don't serve
40:39
Speaker 6: your country. Only serve your country if you're going to
40:42
Speaker 6: do what we say on the left. And it's un-American.
40:46
Speaker 6: You're right. It's outrageous. There's no other way to describe it.
40:48
Speaker 2: Well, I think they're very vulnerable when we know what's
40:54
Speaker 2: going on and you can point at it. And this
40:58
Speaker 2: is actually, you know, we're talking about here on Salem,
41:02
Speaker 2: Salem News Channel. We are talking– it's being talked about
41:06
Speaker 2: in conservative media. It's being talked about on Fox. This
41:11
Speaker 2: is not a secret. And when things start to happen,
41:13
Speaker 2: we can point at it and go, this is part
41:15
Speaker 2: of their plan. And I think we now– because they
41:19
Speaker 2: don't control all the organs of information, we can tell
41:23
Speaker 2: people what's going on.
41:26
Speaker 6: Yeah, it makes me wonder what life was like back
41:28
Speaker 6: when we had three news networks and we didn't have
41:31
Speaker 6: social media and a way to challenge things. I mean,
41:33
Speaker 6: this sort of stuff has been going on for a while.
41:35
Speaker 2: Oh, Tom, can I hold you over to the next
41:38
Speaker 2: segment about five more minutes?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, sure.
41:42
Speaker 9: All right.
41:43
Speaker 2: On the other side, we'll continue with Tom Anderson, a.k.a.
41:46
Speaker 2: Cynical Publius. We'll be talking about color revolutions and elections
41:51
Speaker 2: and army stuff. It's going to be great here on
41:53
Speaker 2: the Hugh Hewitt Show. Welcome back to the Hugh Hewitt Show.
42:07
Speaker 2: I'm Kurt Schlichter, guest hosting for the great Hugh Hewitt.
42:10
Speaker 2: That's Husker Du with Turn On the News. Tom Andersons, a.k.a.
42:15
Speaker 2: Cynical Publius, don't you think it's odd that, you know,
42:19
Speaker 2: us two full colonels in the United States Army, both
42:22
Speaker 2: like post-pump power pop, Yeah.
42:26
Speaker 6: You promised you were going to get the Clash lost
42:28
Speaker 6: in the supermarket for me next time I came on. Oh, gosh!
42:32
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I mean, Hoosker's pretty good. I'll get you.
42:35
Speaker 2: I played the Clash for Eli Lake, and he started cheering.
42:40
Speaker 2: I will get you lost in the supermarket next time.
42:42
Speaker 2: But we are both Army colonels. We both experienced you...
42:47
Speaker 2: You saw action in Iraq. You have been there and
42:51
Speaker 2: done that, as they say. And you're a graduate of
42:55
Speaker 2: the Eisenhower School, the Industrial War College. I went to Carlisle,
43:02
Speaker 2: the Army War College, the Party War College, the Chico
43:04
Speaker 2: State of War Colleges. Can you tell our folks what
43:08
Speaker 2: an information operation is?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it's a deliberate planned event. where you
43:15
Speaker 6: are pursuing certain strategic or operational goals, where you put
43:20
Speaker 6: together a plan of how you're going to roll out information.
43:23
Speaker 6: I mean, not just in the media, but what messaging
43:25
Speaker 6: needs to be done by individuals who are in positions
43:28
Speaker 6: of authority and power. It involves, in the case of
43:31
Speaker 6: the color revolution type thing, how training and fielding protesters
43:36
Speaker 6: who are going to have a deliberate objective. I mean,
43:38
Speaker 6: there's not shooting, or at least you hope there isn't
43:40
Speaker 6: going to be shooting, but it's a very military style
43:43
Speaker 6: operation designed to influence a populace and designed to achieve
43:47
Speaker 6: a specific strategic effect like overthrowing a government.
43:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, an information operation. Look, a kinetic operation is basically
43:56
Speaker 2: I'll kill you until you surrender completely. I will use
43:59
Speaker 2: force to beat you down. Information operation, you are attempting
44:03
Speaker 2: to shape the messages to make the other side do
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Speaker 2: what you want to do. Or not necessarily the other side,
44:11
Speaker 2: other actors. Do what you want to do to attain
44:15
Speaker 2: an effect. And that's the heart of a color revolution.
44:19
Speaker 2: We're going to talk you into giving up your freedom.
44:25
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, in... They did a color revolution in
44:28
Speaker 6: Ukraine twice. The most recent one in 2014 was to
44:32
Speaker 6: overthrow a president who most authorities, even the United Nations,
44:36
Speaker 6: think was validly elected. But he wasn't willing to negotiate
44:39
Speaker 6: with the EU. He was running opposite the EU and
44:43
Speaker 6: the idea of putting Ukraine in NATO. So he had
44:45
Speaker 6: to be removed. And we did it. And now those
44:47
Speaker 6: same people are trying to do it here in the
44:49
Speaker 6: United States.
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Speaker 2: But it becomes very difficult to execute an information operation.
44:56
Speaker 2: If someone's pointing at you going, you know they're doing
44:58
Speaker 2: an information operation on you, they are playing with your head, right?
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Speaker 6: Exactly. And I think the real weakness and why this
45:07
Speaker 6: will not succeed in the USA is a critical point
45:11
Speaker 6: to a color revolution is being able to turn a
45:13
Speaker 6: nation's military and its security and police forces against the
45:17
Speaker 6: existing authorities. And I just don't see, despite some of
45:21
Speaker 6: the admirals and generals that we have running around, I
45:24
Speaker 6: don't see that happening. Our soldiers, our sailors, our Marines,
45:27
Speaker 6: our airmen, they're all still loyal to their oaths. And
45:30
Speaker 6: we have the nation's, the world's finest military. It's not
45:33
Speaker 6: going to happen here, even though they're trying.
45:35
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, one of the things about these other nations,
45:39
Speaker 2: the military has a monopoly on violence. In the United States,
45:45
Speaker 2: there's 400 million guns in the hands of citizens. There
45:49
Speaker 2: are also, as far as law enforcement, you look at
45:52
Speaker 2: these unified states, There's a national police force. Here, are
45:58
Speaker 2: you going to go out and get Beauregard County Sheriff
46:02
Speaker 2: to start arresting people because they won't trans their kids?
46:05
Speaker 2: Not likely, and you don't want to be in Beauregard
46:08
Speaker 2: County after dark, buddy. Our founders were geniuses because they
46:15
Speaker 2: put in place, through federalism, They made it almost impossible
46:24
Speaker 2: to pull off a coup.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree. It doesn't stop them from trying, however.
46:31
Speaker 6: And as much as I feel like it's absolutely impossible
46:34
Speaker 6: to do it, I think back to the success of
46:37
Speaker 6: a lot of these same people in 2016 of peddling
46:40
Speaker 6: this Trump-Russia collusion hoax and basically crippling the Trump presidency,
46:44
Speaker 6: the first Trump presidency. They're trying to pull some of
46:47
Speaker 6: the same things, but unlike 2016, we're onto it from
46:51
Speaker 6: the start. And we know about it, and we're doing
46:53
Speaker 6: the things we need to do to get the word out.
46:56
Speaker 2: Well, Tom, I.
47:00
Speaker 2: I find it odd. We sound like a bunch of
47:02
Speaker 2: conspiracy theorists. We're going to share our alien probing journeys
47:09
Speaker 2: with each other. But this wackiness has become reality. This
47:14
Speaker 2: wasn't what it was like when we were kids. Do
47:16
Speaker 2: you think there's hope for America to get back to
47:18
Speaker 2: what we grew up with?
47:21
Speaker 6: I think there is. And I think people need to
47:23
Speaker 6: go and watch these videos for themselves so we can
47:25
Speaker 6: rebuild that hope.
47:26
Speaker 2: Tom Anderson, cynical publius, Colonel Tom Anderson, a great patriot
47:31
Speaker 2: and a great friend. I'm Kurt Schlichter. This is the
47:34
Speaker 2: Hugh Hewitt Show.
47:35
Speaker 6: Stick around.
47:36
Speaker 2: We got Carrie Pickett coming up. Oh, my gosh. It's
47:51
Speaker 2: the Ramones with Litzkrieg Bob.
47:53
Speaker 9: I love.
47:55
Speaker 2: The bumper music we have when I guest host here
47:57
Speaker 2: on the Hugh Hewitt Show. I'm Kurt Schlichter. I'm joined
47:59
Speaker 2: by the Washington Times White House correspondent, my friend Carrie Pickett.
48:05
Speaker 2: You can follow her at Carrie Pickett. Hi, Carrie Pickett.
48:08
Speaker 2: How are you doing?
48:11
Speaker 3: Hi, Kurt Schlichter.
48:12
Speaker 7: How are you?
48:13
Speaker 2: I am doing fantastic. Now, you're on the road out
48:16
Speaker 2: with the president. You're seeing what's going on out there.
48:19
Speaker 2: I don't trust most of the media. I think you're
48:22
Speaker 2: one of like five media people. I might give the
48:25
Speaker 2: time of day to give us a little insight into
48:28
Speaker 2: how people are feeling out there. Is there energy? Is
48:32
Speaker 2: there lethargy? We're being told everything's going to hell. Is
48:35
Speaker 2: that what's happening or are you seeing something different?
48:39
Speaker 7: I don't think things are necessarily going to hell. I
48:41
Speaker 7: think that the president is trying this interesting experiment over
48:48
Speaker 7: the midterm elections that has never been tried before by
48:52
Speaker 7: a president. to try and boost turnout of his base. Now,
48:55
Speaker 7: let's take a little trip back to 2016, Kurt, when
49:00
Speaker 7: President Trump won the election. You and I both know
49:03
Speaker 7: that Trump himself didn't even expect it, okay? The Democrats
49:08
Speaker 7: didn't expect it, because I think that they didn't really
49:09
Speaker 7: turn on their full machine against him to really try
49:14
Speaker 7: and beat him. So by 2018, they had already turned
49:20
Speaker 7: on their like full machine to make sure that they
49:23
Speaker 7: were at least going to take back the House at
49:26
Speaker 7: that time. But President Trump, during the 2018 midterms, felt
49:31
Speaker 7: that he could kind of rest on his laurels a
49:33
Speaker 7: little bit. He's like, hey, we could just kind of
49:34
Speaker 7: do the same thing. I don't have to do that much.
49:36
Speaker 7: You know, I don't have to go to like 35
49:39
Speaker 7: states and really do anything. And what happened? They ended
49:43
Speaker 7: up losing the house, you know, because he figured he
49:46
Speaker 7: could do pretty much, you know, he could pretty much
49:48
Speaker 7: work off his personality. This time around, he's like, I'm
49:53
Speaker 7: going to do the exact opposite of what I did
49:56
Speaker 7: in 2018. And I'm going to do pretty much what
50:00
Speaker 7: I did in 2016, which is go from state to state,
50:04
Speaker 7: And I'm going to make sure that we do a
50:07
Speaker 7: presidential election type of strategy and make sure I at
50:12
Speaker 7: least try to get people to come out. And what's
50:16
Speaker 7: interesting is that. is the response from the Democrats here, Kurt,
50:22
Speaker 7: is that they're also kind of getting their, shall we say,
50:26
Speaker 7: big people out, whether it's Obama, whether it's Bill Clinton.
50:31
Speaker 7: And yeah, you can kind of laugh at that, but
50:32
Speaker 7: that's really all they kind of have. And this midterm
50:36
Speaker 7: cycle will kind of set the precedent of what could
50:41
Speaker 7: possibly work if he pulls it out. OK, because, you know,
50:47
Speaker 7: you've only had three exceptions as far as, you know,
50:52
Speaker 7: since like the 1930s or so of when you had
50:57
Speaker 7: a party in power really like maintain the house, really.
51:02
Speaker 7: You had like especially with George W. Bush you had
51:05
Speaker 7: during FDR. And then there was another time. And those
51:11
Speaker 7: are like extraordinary circumstances. Like you had in the wake
51:15
Speaker 7: of 9-11, you had the depression. You also had during
51:20
Speaker 7: the 60s as well. And this was one of those
51:25
Speaker 7: things now that Trump wants to say, look, I am
51:28
Speaker 7: going to set another precedent. I can't I came back
51:32
Speaker 7: after I lost and now I'm going to see if
51:35
Speaker 7: I can keep the House and also keep the Senate.
51:38
Speaker 7: And now he may even set a campaign precedent of,
51:43
Speaker 7: you know, presidents in power and what they may have
51:46
Speaker 7: to do if they want to keep Congress. And that
51:49
Speaker 7: could be quite interesting.
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Speaker 2: Well, Carrie Pickett, Washington Times White House correspondent. Look, we
51:56
Speaker 2: have seen polls and polling all over the place, almost
52:00
Speaker 2: uniformly bad for Republicans until the last couple of weeks,
52:03
Speaker 2: where suddenly and mysteriously it got tighter so that no
52:07
Speaker 2: matter how it turns out, they can all say at
52:09
Speaker 2: the end, well, you know, we told you it was tight.
52:13
Speaker 2: What's your assessment of polling? And more importantly, equally importantly,
52:18
Speaker 2: what does the White House think about polling? Does it
52:22
Speaker 2: believe it? Does it trust it? Is it ignoring it?
52:26
Speaker 7: Well, what's interesting here is that of all places, Trump's
52:32
Speaker 7: favorite poll these days is Harry Enten over at CNN.
52:36
Speaker 7: As much as he hates, quote unquote, fake news CNN,
52:40
Speaker 7: he loves Harry Enten over at CNN. He quotes him
52:44
Speaker 7: very often over at the rallies. In fact, he also
52:48
Speaker 7: plays clips of a Harry.
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Speaker 2: Enten very, very often.
52:53
Speaker 7: But as far as polling companies are concerned, we have seen,
52:58
Speaker 7: you know, two, at least two polling firms. You had
53:02
Speaker 7: this Wedgwood firm, which just got caught for being, for
53:08
Speaker 7: like putting out fake polling. And now we have another
53:14
Speaker 7: polling firm, which was, I think it was called Southern.
53:18
Speaker 2: SoCal.
53:19
Speaker 7: I don't have the name.
53:20
Speaker 2: SoCal Strategies. Yeah, that's it.
53:21
Speaker 7: SoCal Strategies, another one that just put out a fake
53:27
Speaker 7: polling as well. And what's interesting there is that now
53:32
Speaker 7: you have these aggregators that are saying, we have to
53:35
Speaker 7: start asking for methodologies in order to make sure that
53:40
Speaker 7: these aren't some fly-by-night polling firms. the former said, oh, well,
53:44
Speaker 7: we were just doing some, you know, experimentation to show that,
53:48
Speaker 7: you know, there are vulnerabilities in polling. And Nate Silver,
53:52
Speaker 7: who's a prominent polling guy, formerly a 538, he was
53:58
Speaker 7: just like, yeah, oh, you know, that's a complete BS.
54:02
Speaker 7: I don't believe that. And he's trying to, like, defend
54:06
Speaker 7: the whole polling industry right now and et.
54:09
Speaker 9: Cetera, et cetera.
54:09
Speaker 7: But, you know, What's interesting, though, is that those two
54:14
Speaker 7: fake polling firms, though, the latter, the SoCal Strategies, they
54:20
Speaker 7: just disappeared all of a sudden. Their ex-account just disappeared.
54:24
Speaker 7: Their website disappeared. No one knows who they are. But
54:30
Speaker 7: what's interesting, though, is that all of their polling seemed
54:34
Speaker 7: to really sort of lean favorably towards these guys. these
54:40
Speaker 7: like DSA liberal candidates. And it's going to be interesting
54:45
Speaker 7: because we should see what the fallout could possibly be
54:50
Speaker 7: after the election and if any accountability could possibly happen
54:53
Speaker 7: after this cycle.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'll believe that when I see it. Carrie Pickett,
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Speaker 2: Washington Times reporter. White House correspondent, thank you for joining
55:07
Speaker 2: us here on The Hugh Hewitt Show. I'm guest host
55:09
Speaker 2: Kurt Schlichter.
55:11
Speaker 9: I got a book.
55:13
Speaker 2: It's called American Warlord. Go get it at Amazon and
55:17
Speaker 2: stick around. We'll be right back.