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The 'echidna' strategy and the race to map the ocean floor
The Lowy Institute's Sam Roggeveen lays out a bold new plan for Australia's foreign policy, and journalist Laura Trethewey takes us on the quest to map the entire ocean floor by 2030. Plus, we hear about an unsung Australian dynamo and one of the pioneers behind 'Meals on Wheels' - Doris Taylor.
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